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Pope Visits Yad Vashem; Daughters of Boxing Legends Take Their Turn in the Ring; Viagra Showing Promise as Fertility Treatment for Women

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ANNOUNCER: It's Thursday, March 23, 2000.

Tonight on CNN NEWSSTAND: She tried everything possible to have a baby, but tonight, a first, and a new use for a well-know drug.

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RENE DANFORD: The nurse called and said, "Honey, you're pregnant," and I said, "No, I'm not." and she said "Yes you are," and I said...

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ANNOUNCER: The answer will surprise you.

Viagra, a look at the research, the rewards and the risks.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm deeply concerned that people are going to grab their husbands' Viagra thinking there's a miracle drug.

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ANNOUNCER: In Jerusalem, a landmark visit, and words that some say didn't go far enough.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A wicked attempt to eradicate the name and culture of Israel.

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ANNOUNCER: Reaction to a day of remembrance, and a look to the future of Christian-Jewish relations.

It's a case of like father, like daughter, right down to what they say and how they say it.

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JACKIE FRAZIER-LYDE, DAUGHTER OF JOE FRAZIER: My boxing skills? Oh, my boxing skills are awesome.

LAILA ALI, DAUGHTER OF MUHAMMAD ALI: Jackie can not fight a lick.

FREEDA FOREMAN, DAUGHTER OF GEORGE FOREMAN: I would like to be a champion one day. I would like to really be on top.

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ANNOUNCER: Tonight, a story with some punch, as an Ali, a Frazier and a Foreman follow their famous fathers into the boxing ring.

To succeed here, maybe you should get a little advice from here. How some unusual insiders beat the pros, trading on beginner's luck.

CNN NEWSSTAND, with anchors Stephen Frazier and Natalie Allen in Atlanta.

STEPHEN FRAZIER, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, everyone. Welcome to NEWSSTAND.

First tonight, a surprising possible new use for a drug already well-known for restoring sexual potency in men.

NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: Some doctors say Viagra is not just for men anymore. In a few cases, the drug helped infertile women become pregnant.

FRAZIER: In a tiny study, findings of which will appear next month in a British medical journal, Viagra is credited with helping women with a relatively rare fertility problem. Some fertility experts are excited by the prospect.

Others, as medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen outlines now, are horrified.

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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): To his mother, Michael Danford is a miracle baby. For two years, Rene Danford tried everything to get pregnant -- steroids, hormone shots, in vitro fertilization three times. Finally, her doctor told her to give up and hire a surrogate.

But then, along came Viagra.

RENE DANFORD: And then when it actually worked and the nurse called and said, "Honey, you're pregnant," and I said "No I'm not," and she said "Yes you are."

COHEN: Michael's a first for the world, the first baby believed to be conceived because his mother took Viagra.

DANFORD: He said, well, "How's the Viagra working?" And I said, "What?" I said "Viagra?" And he said, "Yes." COHEN: So how could Viagra, a drug for impotent men, help get a woman pregnant? First, think about why Viagra works for men: It increases blood flow to the penis, and well, you get the picture. Rene Danford's problem was that there was not enough blood flow to her uterus, so the inner lining of her uterus was thin, and a fertilized egg can't implant into a thin lining. After she took Viagra, more blood flowed to her uterus, her lining thickened, and the fertilized egg could implant and grow into a fetus.

(on camera): So does this mean that these little blue pills are the answer for every woman who's having trouble getting pregnant? Absolutely not. It's really an unproven treatment. Rene Danford's doctor has published a study saying he's tried it in four women, three of whom became pregnant. Also, Viagra only seems to help women with thin uterine linings. Most women are infertile for other reasons, so Viagra wouldn't help them.

(voice-over): At New York University's fertility clinic, for example, out of the 1,000 women who come in each year for treatment:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's probably about three or four patients who have this problem with a very thin endometrial lining.

COHEN: And here's another catch: Women who take Viagra to get pregnant are really guinea pigs, leaving some Viagra experts horrified.

DR. JENNIFER BERMAN, BOSTON UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER: We really don't know what Viagra can do to the unborn fetus in humans. The pharmaceutical company Pfizer has done extensive research in laboratory rats, but nothing in humans.

COHEN: The American Society for Reproductive Medicine says "There are risks to Viagra use. Known side effects for women include high levels of nitric oxide in the womb, which could be both dangerous for the mother and toxic to developing embryos."

So is Rene Danford's doctor, the first to publicly say he's using Viagra for infertility, a genius, or a fool? Her doctor, Geoffrey Sher, says he's not worried, because he tells patients to stop using Viagra a week before he implants the embryo into her uterus.

DR. GEOFFREY SHER, SHER INSTITUTE FOR REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE: If used correctly, the way I've described, it cannot harm the embryo or the baby. What's there to lose for somebody who's desperate?

COHEN: But Dr. Jennifer Berman, an expert on Viagra and women, disagrees. She says no one, including Dr. Sher, knows how long Viagra stays in the system, because he's using it in a completely new way. He's grinding up the pills and putting them into vaginal suppositories that patients use four times a day.

BERMAN: We have no idea what the blood levels are, how it's absorbed, what the concentrations are, how it's excreted, when given through an entirely different mechanism, there's no way of knowing.

COHEN: But not knowing isn't stopping other doctors from wanting to try Viagra, after explaining the risks to their patients.

DR. JAMIE GRIFO, FERTILITY EXPERT: As a physician, to have another weapon in your armamentarium (ph) to help fight this horrible disease of infertility is a great thing.

COHEN: As for Rene Danford, she doesn't feel like a guinea pig at all; she just feels lucky.

(on camera): That must have seemed very strange, that here you were taking a drug meant for impotent men?

DANFORD: Well, yes. Now we call it the family drug. It works on men, women, it produces babies, you know, so we got a poster-baby for it.

She's going through her first in vitro cycle and her lining is not cooperating.

COHEN: Is this one of many e-mails you get about Viagra?

DANFORD: Yes, yes, I've gotten several.

COHEN (voice-over): She tells women who e-mail her:

DANFORD: Will it work for all women? Probably not, but it's worth a shot. It worked for me when nothing else did

COHEN: Four-month old Michael continues to be her little Viagra miracle.

DANFORD: The whole time I was pregnant I couldn't believe it. I just look at him and say, we get to keep you, you're ours, we get to keep you.

COHEN (on camera): Is miracle too strong of a word?

DANFORD: "Miracle" is not too strong of a word as far as I'm concerned, absolutely not.

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ALLEN: I think mom's pretty happy.

COHEN: Oh yes.

ALLEN: And Elizabeth Cohen joins us now to talk more about this. I guess we can't emphasize enough that we're talking, if this helps women, we're talking a small percentage of infertile women.

COHEN: Exactly. We certainly don't want infertile women, who are often desperate, will do anything in order to get pregnant, to say, well, OK, this must be my problem, I'm going to go grab some of my husband's Viagra and takes it, and that's going to work. First of all, chances are that Viagra is not going to help because the problem isn't specifically, the problem that the woman has, probably isn't -- won't lend itself toward taking Viagra. And second of all, it would be extremely dangerous to take Viagra. You have to do it under a doctor's care. It has to be done the right way. It won't even help if you just take it as a pill, won't do anything, and could hurt.

FRAZIER: Well, practical outcomes aside, Viagra was never developed with this use in mind, so what does its manufacturer say about this?

COHEN: Well, the manufacturer, when they went to the FDA to seek approval for the drug, the had tested it extensively on men, and so they have lots of testing that shows what it does on men. They have not tested it extensively on women and have not sought approval for it, at least at this time, for women, and they certainly don't know what it could do to a developing embryo. So this is really uncharted territory, and certainly not something that Pfizer intended to do when it went to the Food and Drug Administration.

ALLEN: You were talking about the risk, at least somewhat, here in your story. I guess you can't emphasize enough that you know that there are women out there that are desperate, even the e-mail that she received in that story, that this isn't something you should do on your own.

COHEN: Exactly. Exactly. I mean, it's interesting that with very little press coverage, this woman has gotten lots of e-mails. And women will really try anything. And that's really the problem here. Taking Viagra will not get you pregnant. It need to be to be done, first of all, as a vaginal suppository, and that's done -- specially done -- that has to be totally different from the pills itself, and it has to be done under a doctor's care. So it won't even work, it could harm you, and if you did happen to get pregnant, it could harm your developing fetus.

FRAZIER: Back to the very beginning, what first gave Rene Danford's doctor the idea that this would work at all?

COHEN: You know, it's very interesting, because Viagra increases blood flow, and it can increase blood flow to a variety of body parts. And so he sat there, and he thought, well gee, if it increases blood flow to the genitals, perhaps it would increase blood flow to the uterus, and so he tried it on a select group of women who had, again, these thin uterine linings -- there wasn't enough blood flow -- and he found that it actually thickened it considerably. He could do -- you saw in the story he was doing ultrasounds with Doppler, and he could see that the blood flow increased. So it's a drug that works in a variety of ways.

FRAZIER: And he had it right.

Elizabeth Cohen, thanks for joining us tonight.

And NEWSSTAND will be back in just a moment.

ANNOUNCER: Up next, the holy father in the Holy City. Pope John Paul remembers the Holocaust, when NEWSSTAND returns.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) ALLEN: In Jerusalem, a moment many have waited a lifetime for, the leader of the world's Roman Catholics paying homage to the memory of millions of Jews. A somber ceremony punctuated by silent and small, touching moments.

CNN's Jerrold Kessel shares his "Reporter's Notebook."

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JERROLD KESSEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Well, it certainly was a very emotional ceremony, perhaps among the most emotional ever in this place of poignant ceremonies. Pope John Paul II is widely regarded as the friendliest pope ever to the Jewish people.

EHUD BARAK, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: I think I can say, your holiness, that your coming here today is the climax of this historic journey of healing.

KESSEL: There has been an absolutely revolutionary change in ideology, as one rabbi has called it, perhaps the most profound change in ideology in the last three decades anywhere in the attitude of the church, of the Catholic Church to the Jewish people.

The sea change for the good has come about in the last four decades or so, but without resolving this dispute over the actions or the inaction of the war-time papacy, and specifically of Pope Pius XII, of whether he should have spoken out, didn't speak out, and whether that constituted complicity with the actions of the of the Nazis, or whether by not speaking out, by indifference this might have allowed the Nazi menace and persecution and eventually extermination of so many millions of Jews to go on.

POPE JOHN PAUL II: The Catholic Church, motivated by the gospel law of truth and love, and by no political considerations, is deeply saddened by the hatred, acts of persecution, and displays of anti- Semitism directed against the Jews by Christians at any time and in any place.

KESSEL: The most poignant moment of the ceremony at Yad Vashem was when he encountered 30-some people from his hometown who had survived, and this interchange between the survivors and this pope was quite remarkable and reflecting this whole new attitude between the Catholic Church and the Jewish people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After the war, she was found by a young priest who carried her to the training station to join other survivors. This priest later became the Pope John Paul II.

KESSEL: There will be those who will say he didn't go far enough in what he said, but by and large all have said the fact that he said things that he did say and the tone that he said them at Yad Vashem was a moving moment and will contribute further to reconciliation between the two religions.

(END VIDEOTAPE) FRAZIER: For many Jews, the pope's visit to the Holocaust memorial was moving and symbolic, but it did not contain the apology they had hoped to hear. To discuss that, we are joined now by Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of the Simon Weisenthal Center.

Rabbi Hier, good evening, thanks for joining us here at NEWSSTAND and welcome to NEWSSTAND.

RABBI MARVIN HIER, FOUNDER, SIMON WEISENTHAL CENTER: Good evening.

FRAZIER: You note that the Holy Father's statement seemed to characterize Nazi Germany as an atheist culture, because he called it a godless ideology, but that overlooks what German society was then. What was it?

HIER: Well, German society was very much a Christian society. Many of the perpetrators unfortunately believed that they were attached to the Christian faith and practiced the Christian faith until the collapse of the Third Reich, so I don't think one could say that Nazi Germany was a Godless ideology as if they were the Soviet Union, for example.

FRAZIER: And what should we make of the Vatican silence during the Holocaust? It's making a lot of news now with the publication of this new biography of Pius XII.

HIER: Well, let me say this, that John Paul II, his credentials in world Jewry, it speaks for itself, his deeds. So he is not the issue here.

But the wartime pope, Pius XII, he never publicly condemned Hitler, but more than that, his predecessor had issued an encyclical condemning anti-Semitism, and he didn't have a chance to sign it, and Pius XII then assumed the throne of St. Peter and what he did is basically deep six this encyclical. It wasn't found until 1973. He just didn't want to take on Adolf Hitler. Now, he may have been an able theologian, a church administrator, and perhaps a unifier of the Catholic Church. But the one thing we feel he was not was a saint and he should not be canonized as a saint.

FRAZIER: Well, we're going to get to that in a minute. But when you think back, nobody in Europe did manage to stop the Nazis. How do you think this Pope Pius XII might have?

HIER: Well, first of all, Pius XI was prepared to do it. He had engaged an American priest, Father John LaFarge (ph), to write an encyclical to condemn the anti-Semitism of Adolf Hitler publicly, and that was his predecessor, the person who paved the way for him to become pope. But Pius XII did not want to follow in those footsteps, so again, I say that I have no objections to him being called a great theologian. It's just sort of insulting to the memory of the Holocaust to say that he was a saint, when he never condemned Adolf Hitler publicly, not even a single time.

FRAZIER: Well, and your reference there is to the fact that the beatification of Pius XII is under review now. So what message would that send if it proceeds?

HIER: Well, I think, unfortunately, if it proceeds that will sour what has otherwise been unprecedented achievements by John Paul II. No pope has done close to what he has done for Catholic-Jewish relations, and I think it would be a mistake, particularly when survivors are alive all over the world, to basically have closure by appointing Pope -- by appointing Pius XII as saint of the Catholic Church.

FRAZIER: Rabbi Hier, you know that this pope usually uses language with power and precision, so what do you make of the vagueness of his words in the theological statement, memory and reconciliation, the passive voice, the -- you know, the indirectness of it?

HIER: Well, that -- in a sense that's a good point. You know, when the pope spoke in Bethlehem he had rather blunt language. He can speak his mind and has show an ability to do so. He did apologize for past misdeeds done against the Jewish people, but it sounded like he was talking about events 1,200 years ago, 1,500 years ago, and that's why I felt that if he included the words, and during the Nazi Holocaust, that would have given it that contemporary meaning. But no matter what John Paul II does, I would have to say no other pope has done as much, and if he were the pope during the Holocaust, there may have not have been a Holocaust.

FRAZIER: Well, what a marvelous thought, and what a sad thought, too. Rabbi Hier, thank you for joining us tonight.

HIER: Thank you.

FRAZIER: And NEWSSTAND will be back in just a moment.

ANNOUNCER: Still ahead, you know the name and you know the attitude.

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L. ALI: I know that in the end, I'm going to be one of the greatest.

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ANNOUNCER: Ali, Frazier, Foreman, a new generation of boxing rivalries, as NEWSSTAND continues.

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ALLEN: Other top stories of this day: Flight attendants at U.S. Airways are practicing walkout drills, ahead of a threatened strike at midnight Friday. At issue, a three-year contract dispute. Airline officials say they'll ground their planes if flight attendants don't fly this weekend. They say other airlines and Amtrak trains will honor U.S. Airways tickets if a strike occurs.

Overseas now, where President Clinton took a break from high- level meetings in India. He and daughter Chelsea went on safari through a national park that's home to the endangered Bengal tiger. The Clintons saw two of them. There's one.

Saturday, the president heads for Pakistan and more talks on ending the threat of nuclear confrontation with its neighbor India.

And Sunday is when Russians elect a new president. Acting President Vladimir Putin has a big lead over the other 10 candidates. But is it big enough to give him a first-round victory? That takes more than 50 percent of the vote.

ANNOUNCER: Coming up on our fight card: destiny's daughters.

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L. ALI: I feel like I'm at the top of the food chain, and I'm just, you know, just trying to devour everybody.

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ANNOUNCER: We'll go a few rounds with Laila Ali, Jackie Frazier- Lyde and Freeda Foreman, when NEWSSTAND returns.

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FRAZIER: The 1970's were good times for heavyweight boxing. The sport enjoyed huge talents then, epic battles and rivalries for the ages.

ALLEN: And now the names Ali, Frazier and Foreman are in the news again, as CNN/"Sports Illustrated" senior correspondent Nick Charles explains, this time it's a new generation's turn in the ring.

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NICK CHARLES, CNN/"SPORTS ILLUSTRATED" SR. CORRESPONDENT (voice- over): In their time, they prowled the boxing landscape like lions: Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Goliaths of their game, three men who dominated their sport, who fought, pitched. publicized battles against each other.

Like this message to George Foreman.

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MUHAMMAD ALI, BOXER: You out, sucker!

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CHARLES: Their boxing transcended sport and became theater. Their fights were titled spectacles -- the Thrilla in Manila, the Rumble in the Jungle -- three warriors, three fathers.

(on camera): It's been a quarter century since their astonishing rivalry dominated boxing, yet their names continue to resonate in the ring a generation later. The twist, however, is that these current fighters, with those famous last names aren't the sons of legends; they're the daughters.

L. ALI: I know that in the end, I'm going to be one of the greatest, so that's just what's going to happen.

J. FRAZIER: My boxing skills? Oh my boxing skills are awesome.

CHARLES (voice-over): Freeda Foreman.

F. FOREMAN: I would like to be a champion one day. I would like to really be on top.

CHARLES: Three women bound together by the past and compelled by the same calling to slug it out, just like their fathers.

L. ALI: It was a big thing for me, because all my life I had this thing where I don't want to be famous, I don't like what my dad has to go through, I don't like how entertainers have to live their life, and then for me to want to box and totally contradict everything I've been saying, you know, I had to settle that within myself to make sure that's what I really want to do.

CHARLES: But that wasn't the only factor for Laila Ali. While Muhammad attended her debut, he wasn't completely in favor of his daughter following in his footsteps.

L. ALI: I know in my heart, he would be happier if I just didn't box. You know, he never once has told me don't box. You know, he was like, what's going to happen when you get the wind knocked out of you? What's going to happen if you get knocked down, you're dizzy, and how are you going to deal with it?

CHARLES: When I spent time with Muhammad Ali at his home last December, he joked that he thought Laila was crazy to box. But perhaps success makes acceptance a little easier. Laila is undefeated in four fights, and approving or not, her famous father can't help but be proud.

L. ALI: I talk to him before my fights, and he says, "Beat her in the head," and then after I win, he says, "You're going to be like me -- you're going to be the next champ." And then he tells my sister, oh, she gets that from me, she gets that from me, wanting to train and just the will and the passion, and she gets that -- so he's excited about it, but he'd give it all up just to know I'd be comfortable and know I'm OK.

CHARLES: Laila will marry her trainer, Johnny McClain (ph), in August. And for the young woman who worried about stepping into the spotlight, things have gone smoothly as she carefully plans her career.

But what would Ali be without Frazier.

J. FRAZIER: I've always been a competitor. That's why I love practicing law, because it has this adversarial nature, so it's just right up my alley to get into boxing. CHARLES: At 38 years old, Jacqueline Frazier-Lyde, also known as "Sister Smoke," is hardly what you'd expect from a woman just beginning a boxing career. She's a married mother of three and an attorney who practices law in a second-floor office above her father's Philadelphia gym.

JACKIE FRAZIER: This is what he sent back.

CHARLES: But when she learned the daughter of her father's old nemesis was boxing, Jackie couldn't resist. After all, she was ringside at the "Thrilla in Manila" and vividly remembers Muhammad Ali beating Joe Frazier into submission after 14 furious rounds.

JACKIE FRAZIER: And I saw my father wanting to come out, and my perspective as to why I'm into boxing is because I wanted to finish that 15th round and I want to finish it with Laila Ali.

CHARLES: The man in Jackie's corner is her dad, smokin' Joe Frazier

JOE FRAZIER, FORMER BOXER: My job is to help my kids in anything that they want to do. Maybe your kids come in and say they want to fight, I'm willing to help them. So this is my bloodline. So therefore, I've got to help them.

CHARLES: It's a bond more complex than a father protecting his daughter. For Jackie Frazier it's about redeeming the Frazier name.

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MUHAMMAD ALI, BOXER: Joe's going to come out smoking, but I ain't going to be joking. I'll be pecking and a-poking, pouring water on his smoking. This might shock and amaze, but this time I'll retire Joe Frazier.

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CHARLES: Next to Muhammad Ali's dazzling charisma, Joe Frazier seemed cast as a silent, brutish figure, something Jackie viewed as both cruel and unfair.

JACKIE FRAZIER: The media really miscast my father, and I think for clarification purposes, you know, that that's why God has made -- made this situation come to life.

CHARLES: Frazier was paid $25,000 for her first fight, but the match she dreams of is not about money.

JACKIE FRAZIER: September of the year 2000 will be the 25th anniversary of the Thrilla in Manila, and I would love to have a boxing competition with Muhammad Ali's daughter, Laila. I know that I would kick her butt; she knows that I would kick her butt.

CHARLES: And this is where it starts to sound like the good old days.

L. ALI: Laila also knows Jackie cannot fight a lick. I mean, everyone saw her tape, which is pretty pitiful.

JACKIE FRAZIER: Well, I would say, Laila, if you have a problem with, you know, Jacqueline Frazier-Lyde's boxing performance and you think that I'm so rotten at boxing, that she should meet me in September of the year 2000 and just retire me.

L. ALI: I wish she would stop taking up so much air time, because she looks just like her daddy, you know what I mean, and she to just start doing phone interviews so we don't have to keep looking at her so much.

CHARLES: Laila says there are no plans for a fight.

(on camera): Jackie Frazier's move into boxing took her only one flight down from her law office to her father's gym.

Freeda Foreman's transition was far more dramatic: a single mom who packed up her young daughter in South Carolina and moved across the country here to Denver to pursue a dream. She had never even thrown an amateur punch.

FREEDA FOREMAN, BOXER: If it wasn't for George Foreman, Freeda Foreman would not be sitting here and wouldn't have this opportunity, you know, to put my gloves on and show my stuff.

CHARLES (voice-over): With literally no experience in boxing, she's taking a crash course. For the record, George Foreman is not involved and does not approve.

F. FOREMAN: Nobody ever raises their child or their daughter to be a fighter, you know. Nobody wants their child to get hit. He did have to take -- go down a hard, hard, hard road so we wouldn't have to put ourselves in those shoes. But you do things in life for many different reasons.

CHARLES: Freeda is the only one of Foreman's 10 children to box. While big George has stayed away, Freeda's joined on her ring odyssey by her 5-year-old daughter Justice and her mom.

CHARLES (on camera): Andrea (ph), is destiny involved in this at all?

ANDREA FOREMAN, FREEDA FOREMAN'S MOTHER: Well, actually, I would say so. I think Freeda is following her soul-call, because before she was born, her dad actually wanted a boy, and he was absolutely sure this was going to be a boy. He had dreams, it's going to be a boy, and we had Freeda. He named her Freeda George Foreman right after him.

CHARLES (voice-over): But can she fight like him? Larry Goosen (ph) is Foreman's trainer.

LARRY GOOSEN, FREEDA FOREMAN'S TRAINER: There's no lying once that fight starts and the bell rings, and it doesn't matter if she's George Foreman's daughter or my daughter, she's got to fight. And we'll find out April 1st. CHARLES: So little experience yet so much exposure, are these daughters of boxing legends doing a disservice to the sport of their fathers? Lucia Ryker (ph) was a four-time world champion kick boxer who found a new challenge in the more mainstream fight game. Experts say she's the real deal, widely considered the best in the sport.

While Ryker acknowledges Laila Ali's commitment and hopes all three daughters will use their names to better the sport, she feels being overshadowed is frustrating.

LUCIA RYKER, BOXER: First it was like just tits and ass in the ring, and then those names in the ring. And I'm like -- you know, and I'm like "I'm unemployed, right?" And she takes the market where I worked for so hard.

Yes, am I angry? Yes, I think I am.

CHARLES: In the meantime, Laila Ali, Freeda Foreman and Jackie Frazier are at the very least paying the price, because win or lose, boxing hurts.

JACKIE FRAZIER: I have sparring partners who attempt to hit me in the face, and I attempt to hit them. So I think that's a pretty serious situation.

F. FOREMAN: I got hit yesterday in the stomach, and you know, I didn't even feel it until I was already outside on my way home.

L. ALI: I feel like I'm at the top of the food chain, and I'm just, you know, trying to devour everybody. That's all.

CHARLES: Three women in a traditionally man's game and a family business, working to make a name for themselves.

RYKER: If Laila uses her name to create value for other women and create a name for herself and stands for a personality that is respected, perfect. The other girls are fighting now too. I always hope that they want to create value with their name and not just exploit it.

L. ALI: Lucia has one of the best titles you can get. You know, I'm the daughter of Muhammad Ali. But she's titled the greatest woman boxer. I would rather have that title.

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ALLEN: Jackie Frazier-Lyde won her second professional fight last Sunday. She's now 2-and-0. As her trainer mentioned, Freeda Foreman makes her professional debut in Las Vegas April 1st. And Laila Ali's next fight is April 8 in Detroit.

FRAZIER: Continuing our boxing metaphors for a little bit longer now, it was a day for raging bulls on Wall Street. Details when we come back, in our "MONEYLINE Update."

Also, a way for small investors to get into the markets without paying knockout prices.

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STUART VARNEY, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening. News that Microsoft had moved closer to settling its antitrust battle and Lehman Brothers had upgraded General Electric, that led investors to open their wallets for the big-name stocks and it led to all-out buying. The Dow industrials skyrocketed 253 points. That's more than 2 percent. The close was 1,119, and that puts the Dow just 5 percent below its all- time high.

The Nasdaq joined in the fray. The composite index jumped more than 1 1/2 percent, up 75 at 4,940.

As for the 30-year Treasury bond, it gained more than three- quarters of a point. They yield: 5.90 percent.

Thanks to the Internet, the stock market is becoming more and more accessible to the little guy. There are some different new ways to invest in big-cap stocks that will not break the bank.

Lauren Thierry examines one online service that's being used as a sort of starter kit for stocks.

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LAUREN THIERRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For about a year, Christine Graham avidly tracked a group of big-cap stocks. The problem: She didn't actually own any of those stocks. Like many Americans, she felt she didn't have enough cash to open a brokerage account.

But now Christine owns a handful of her favorites thanks to an automatic investment plan called Sharebuilder.

CHRISTINE GRAHAM, SHAREHOLDER CUSTOMER: With a lot of online brokerages, you have to have an initial at least payment of $2,000. Sharebuilder allows you to set it up however amount of money you want to invest. If you want to invest $2 a week, then that's fine. If you want to invest $2,000 a week, then that works for whoever also.

THIERRY: Sharebuilder is run by the firm NetStock. It lets people like Christine make small, regular investments for $2 a transaction.

KAREN ALTFEST, CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER, L.J. ALTFEST & CO.: It's probably great for new investors: people with small amounts, to get them started. I think it encourages the habit of saving and contributing to a stock investment.

THIERRY (on camera): Altfest warns, however, that even though transactions are relatively cheap, costs can add up. And it may not be ideal for someone who likes to trade stocks on the fly, as the firm only executes its orders once a week. But that doesn't bother Christine. She's in it for the long run.

GRAHAM: I would recommend it. I've actually been trying to push some people to get it.

THIERRY (voice-over): That's "Your Money," Lauren Thierry, CNN Financial News, New York.

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VARNEY: Two stocks with announcements after the bell you'll want to keep an eye on in tomorrow's trading session: Johnson & Johnson, the company said it's going to cease marketing Propolsid, its heartburn drug. Serious cardiovascular side effects, the reason there.

And keep an eye on Gillette. The consumer products giant announced it plans to sell White Rain hair care brand to Diamond products.

VARNEY: That's it for the "MONEYLINE" update. For a complete look at the day's business news, be sure to watch "MONEYLINE," weeknights at 6:30 Eastern, right here on CNN.

NEWSSTAND will return in just a moment with "The Stock of the Week."

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ALLEN: It sounds like science fiction, but it is chillingly real. It is an iceberg about twice the size of Delaware. Satellites show an oblong chunk of ice 183 miles long and 22 miles wide broke off Antarctica. It may soon drift into shipping lanes around the South Pole. There's no indication yet if it poses a hazard.

FRAZIER: If your interest in cruise ships goes only as far as your stock portfolio, perhaps you've noticed the parent company of Carnival Cruise Lines. Its stock price is half what it was in January. So is it time to jump onboard? Carnival Corporation, our "Stock of the Week."

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FRAZIER (voice-over): Spring has sprung, time for fun in the sun. But it hasn't been smooth sailing, however, for Carnival Corporation. In recent months, troubles from ship buyers to failed acquisitions have kept the world's largest cruise ship operator fighting to keep its head above water.

Last week, Carnival's management warned investors that second- quarter earnings were weak, sinking below last year's levels. Higher fuel prices, slower booking patterns and cuts in cruise ticket prices are all being blamed for the decline.

So our first question: Is Carnival running aground?

PETER OAKES, MERRILL LYNCH: ... a terrific first quarter with pricing -- where pricing was up 6 percent, and that's the best we've seen in a couple years. And that was boosted by the millennium cruises. Then here in second quarter, things are soft. By the time we get past this difficult second quarter period, that -- we should be back on track.

TOM GRAVES, S&P EQUITY GROUP: Investor confidence has been shaken by recent events. However, the long-term growth story for the industry is still pretty good. With the aging of the baby-boom generation, I expect that, you know, more and more people in their 40s and 50s are going to be taking cruise vacations, and Carnival is well- positioned to take advantage of that.

FRAZIER: Carnival owns and operates five cruise lines with a total of 35 ships, including Holland America and Cunard Cruise Lines. But it's what's on deck for Carnival that has Wall Street concerned, The company's building 13 new Carnival and Holland America ships to launch before 2004, a whopping 12 percent increase in capacity. Ambitious development when you consider that only 11 percent of the U.S. population has ever taken a cruise.

So we asked our analysts: Is Carnival in over its head?

GRAVES: It may be difficult to generate the demand to keep pace with that. And to, you know, to keep occupancies close to where they were a year ago, you may have to either bring down prices somewhat from where they were or at least not be able to -- increase them as much as you had hoped. And that seems to be what's happening with Carnival.

OAKES: The industry has faced similar growths of supply in the past. And other than a periodic one-time dip in pricing, we have never seen a prolonged decline in pricing in a non-recessionary environment.

FRAZIER: Since nearing its 52-week high in January, Carnival stock has bowed down nearly 50 percent. And just last week, the company's earnings announcements sent the stock tumbling 17 percent in a single day.

So our last question: What's on the horizon for Carnival stock?

OAKES: My recommendation on the stock is an accumulate for the intermediate term and a buy for the longer term, which suggests, we think, the stock makes some sense investing right here.

GRAVES: The stock has lost about $17 billion of market capitalization since where it peaked in January of this year, which is, you know, an enormous change in value. It will bounce back some. I don't think it's going to, you know, reach the $50 range any time soon. But my impression is that it should outperform the S&P 500 over the next six to 12 months.

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FRAZIER: Carnival will set up store-front booking offices in Illinois and Texas this year, hoping the customers will just walk in at night and on weekends and other times travel agencies aren't usually open.

ALLEN: Well, the people in our next report aren't going on a cruise any time soon, buy they have created a hot bed of capitalism and maybe found a new career in the last place you'd expect.

See how they did it when NEWSSTAND returns.

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ALLEN: There's a game played at schools all around the country that teaches young people how to invest in the stock market. Although they trade with fake money, the competition is fierce.

FRAZIER: Now, there's a group of Maryland students who are competing and they have a rather unusual point of view. Many of them have never seen Wall Street. In fact, they couldn't get there even if they wanted to.

NEWSSTAND'S Kate Snow on a new breed of insider traders.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: American Express...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Only invest in e-Toys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Isomet (ph) went down.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been looking at Microsoft on the Net.

KATE SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They wear suits to class, gray jumpsuits so the other prisoners will know they're under 21.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We still should sell some. I say we sell some.

SNOW: Meet the stock trading class of cell block G-3.

JUSTIN BURDETTE, INMATE: I never even knew how to read these numbers when I first came in here. I didn't know how to do anything. Now I'm sitting here looking at last year's highs and lows, and looking at the increase, you know, how much the stock costs now and everything.

SNOW: Justin's team isn't doing so well. Each team starts the 10-week session with $100,000 in make-believe credit. Six weeks later, Justin's team has just $5,000 left.

BURDETTE: We've got to find something that is going to just keep on making money.

SNOW: They started out investing in what they knew: Polaroid cameras, Goodyear tires. Then they branched out, and took a risk on human gene research.

SHARIF HARRIS, INMATE: I didn't know that, as far as the stock market goes, one comment can hurt millions of people, as far as like the comment that the president made about human genes, that hurt us a lot. MARC PRITCHARD, INMATE: We were lucky enough not to own any biotechnology stocks, because those took a big hit.

SNOW: Marc Pritchard's team is way ahead.

PRITCHARD: Yesterday alone, we made $7,000. And overall we've made -- well, to date, $26,000.

SNOW: Their strategy was straightforward.

PRITCHARD: America Online, Chevron, Dell, Intel, you know, real big companies that have a history. Pretty obvious, they're in the paper a lot.

SNOW (on camera): Last fall, one group from the Montgomery County jail did exceptionally well, they finished first in the Washington, D.C. area and second in the state Maryland, they had nearly doubled their money.

(voice-over): Ryan Green was captain of that five-man team. They beat out teams all over Maryland, even some private schools.

RYAN GREEN, INMATE: We couldn't believe sitting here in these gray jump suits that we would be these guys dressed in shirts and ties.

SNOW: Ryan went to college on a baseball scholarship, but after a shoulder injury, he started fighting, using drugs. He lost the scholarship and ended up in jail. Now he's at a prerelease center.

GREEN: I would love to have a job in the stock market, I love money, I love finance, I love learning about it.

ADAM FELDMAN, INMATE: Save money and invest, yes, that's what I plan to do.

SNOW: Back in G-3, the inmates say they plan to take some risks when they get out, but instead of dealing drugs maybe they will play the stock market.

ROBERT KERR, INMATE: This is legal. And I kind of like it because I plan on like this stuff, because when I get out of here I plan on trying to like starting a business of mine or something like that

SNOW: For now, they'll trade in imaginary fortunes and wait for their chance to invest in the real thing.

Kate Snow, for NEWSSTAND, in Rockville, Maryland.

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FRAZIER: And now direct from H-Block, "SPORTS TONIGHT."

ALLEN: Vince Cellini is up next. Vince, what do you have?

VINCE CELLINI, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Natalie, Steve, we've got a big show for you tonight. Hey, I'm on the air over here broadcasting.

Coming up on "SPORTS TONIGHT," Tiger Woods among those battling their way through a tough day at the Players Championship, a surprise leader in round 1. In baseball, there is a trade involving an 18-game winner last season. Bob Knight the subject of a closer look by Indiana University officials. And we have lots of final 16 college basketball action. "SPORTS TONIGHT" is coming up next. We're almost clear. You can can come through here -- Steve and Natalie.

FRAZIER: Those officials don't want to get too close to Bobby Knight, he might throw a chair at him or something, Vince.

CELLINI: You never know with Robert Knight. You never know down here either, Steven.

ALLEN: Isn't that the truth. Duck.

FRAZIER: Thanks a lot.

ALLEN: All right, Vince.

Tomorrow, a special Hollywood NEWSSTAND.

FRAZIER: It's an hour dedicated to Academy Award stories that go beyond missing statutes, including a master class in screenwriting with novelist John Irving. "The Cider House Rules" is the first of Irving's books which he himself adapted into a movie and got all the way on to the screen and cinemas. It took him 14 years, but it brought him an Oscar nomination.

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JOHN IRVING, NOVELIST: Of all my novels, it's the only one that I saw as a movie, I envisioned it as a movie even as I was completing the novel, and that never happens to me.

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FRAZIER: John Irving on the creative process, tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

And that's all from us tonight. I'm Stephen Frazier.

ALLEN: I'm Natalie Allen. Thanks for watching, and good night from the NEWSSTAND.

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