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Sarah Ferguson Interviews Tiger Woods

Aired February 23, 2001 - 9:00 p.m. ET





UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you serious?



SARAH FERGUSON, GUEST HOST: Thank you for joining us. I'm Sarah Ferguson. And I'm honored to be sitting in for Larry King.

I know you recognize the extraordinary young who is man with me: Tiger Woods.

So glad you are sitting here, Tiger. And I can't believe it, because I spoke to your mom yesterday. And she said -- I said, "Oh, I'm going to see your son." She goes: "No, you're not. He is going to go to Las Vegas." I said, "Yes, he is doing the LARRY KING for me in the morning."


FERGUSON: And she goes: "No, no, no, he doesn't do any interviews. He won't be there."

I mean, it's just extraordinary.

WOODS: Only for you.

FERGUSON: Thank you. It's so kind of you.

Now, could you please explain to me a bit about golf, you know, that thing do you, you know?

WOODS: You mean chase a little white ball and work on my farmer's tan?


(LAUGHTER) WOODS: That thing? All right.

FERGUSON: Yes. I mean, I'm very interested about all -- they are talking about the Grand Slam.

WOODS: Right.

FERGUSON: And they're saying if you win the Masters this year, then will it count as the Grand Slam.

WOODS: Will it count or won't it? In my opinion, I think it would count. To be able to hold all four majors -- the Masters, U.S. Open, British Open, PGA -- all concurrently I think is the Grand Slam. But a lot of people have a different opinions on that. People think you have to win it in the same calendar year.

Mine would not encompass that. It would encompass two years. But if you hold all four same at the time, I think that's the Grand Slam. But that is just my opinion.

FERGUSON: But, Tiger, isn't it the most extraordinary achievement? I mean, to win what you have won is -- I mean, it's not been done since the 1950s, is that right?

WOODS: Right. You know, Hogan won three in one year. Could I do that again? I don't know. Hopefully, I can get my game ready for Augusta. And that's what I'm trying to peak for right now. I'm trying to get everything situated so that my game will rise to a level that I would like to he see it at by April.

And it is just pretty neat. I'm working on a few things right now. I'm seeing some new exciting things in my game come along. And I can't wait for all this to gel. And hopefully it will gel by April.

FERGUSON: So you -- so you are really sort of playing it down at the moment, just playing the game, doing the best job you can at the moment, and then suddenly going to just confront everything and it...

WOODS: Well, I'm trying to win every tournament I play in. And that is one of the things that I truly believe in. There's no sense in going to a tournament if you don't believe that you can win it. And that is the belief I have always had. And that is not going to change. But I do have certain goals and certain things I try and strive for every year. And that is to try to have my game peak for the four majors.

That is not saying that other tournaments are not significant. They are. And they do me a lot in my life. But I'm -- in back of my mind, I always want to win the bigger tournaments. And those are the four majors.

FERGUSON: But you know what is extraordinary, is you said to me that when you watch a video of your match -- your last match -- you look at the positive side of it, not the negative.

WOODS: Right. Right. FERGUSON: Would you explain that?

WOODS: Well, you know, a lot of people look at the negative things, the things that they did wrong and -- which I do. But I like to stress on the things I did right, because there are certain things that I like to look at from a positive standpoint that are just positive reinforcement.

It just makes you feel like, when your out there in the competition, you are competing coming down the stretch, that you, you know, you have watched the videotape. You know you can do it. Why not do it again? I have proved to myself -- in practice, I have proved to myself -- in tournaments. And that is one of the reasons why, when I look back in hindsight over videotapes the things I did right, just to have that positive reinforcement so that down the road in another tournament that I will be able to draw upon that.

FERGUSON: And when you are walking do the last final tee -- the 18th tee, and fans are shouting at you and you are being mobbed, how do you deal with it, when you don't -- you can't shake?

WOODS: Well, sometimes it is a little loud. I mean, they hurt your eardrums sometimes. And that is the honest-to-God truth, is that sometimes they yell so loud that your eardrums are ringing by the time you tee off. But, you know, you got to put all that aside. You've got to...

FERGUSON: How do you put it aside, Tiger, because...

WOODS: You know, I stay in the present, focus on what I need to accomplish right now. One of the great things that Harvey Penick -- one of the late teachers -- what he said that is when you are over a golf shot, that should be most important thing in your life at that moment in time. And that is the kind of concentration you need have and the discipline you need to have.

So with that being said, everything else is shunned away and put aside. You focus on what you want to accomplish right here and now. After you do that, then you go ahead and let your mind wander if you want.

FERGUSON: But that is a golf tip -- that is a major golf tip for anyone watching. You are really saying; Go to the ball. Look at it.

WOODS: Correct.

FERGUSON: And just completely shut out any other form of emotion or anything else.

WOODS: Well, you focus on what want you to accomplish with that shot. That is it. Whether it is you want to place ball here or place there, you've got to stay away from that trouble, you've got to focus on what you want to accomplish right here and now. And if you don't do that, you don't have that type of concentration or attention, then you are not going to hit the shot you want to hit. FERGUSON: And once you are standing over the ball and you say, "Right," you have cleared the way and you are going towards victory, how does it actually feel?

WOODS: Very rewarding to be able to walk up -- to be able to walk up the last hole and knowing the fact that you've beat everybody in the field that week -- and especially in a major championship, walking up the last hole, knowing the fact that you have already won the tournament, all you need to do is stay alive.


WOODS: That is a great feeling, because you worked, you know, all your life to get to this moment. Like, for instance, the last year at the British Open, to complete the Slam, I had to win at St. Andrews, the home of golf. And then going up the last hole, I had an eight-shot lead. And all I needed was just stay alive and just keep my heart beating and I could win the tournament.

And to walk up that last hole at the home of golf, and seeing the amphitheater and all great the champions that have walked up there, it just sent chills down my spine. And I said: You know what? I have a -- this is very special. And this is something that all kids should dream about.

And I was actually able to make a childhood dream come true.

FERGUSON: But I remember you saying that you had some -- a long time ago, many years ago, you said: Oh, listen, I'm really going to get to work on my British -- on the links courses.

WOODS: That is right.

FERGUSON: And I remember you saying that to me.

WOODS: That is right.

FERGUSON: And so when you walked up last year, it was just like, I was watching the telly going: Yes, he did it! He did it!

But it's such an example because you say you can improve every year.

WOODS: You know, it's something that I try to do. You know, December 31, if I can say that I'm a better player now than I was January 1 of the same year, then it was a successful year, because, in the end, if you keep doing that each and every year, you are going to have one heck of a career.

FERGUSON: More next: legacy and golf tips.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's looking dangerous unless it carries -- carries. Oh, it did. How about that?


Oh, well done. Well done.




LEE JANZEN, PROFESSIONAL GOLFER: I'm just marveled by his drive, you know, where he gets that from. You know, I know he wants to be the No. 1 player in the world. I just don't know why.



FRED FUNK, PROFESSIONAL GOLFER: Two weeks ago in Phoenix, I saw on the computer he was beating me in driving accuracy, and I said, hey, Tiger you're beating me in driving accuracy so far with one round to go. And he's just kind of shaking his head and he's walking away, and I say, "Feel pretty good about yourself, don't you?" And he says, "Yeah, I do."



MARK O'MEARA, PROFESSIONAL GOLFER/FISHERMAN: Thing is, you know, he can beat be on the golf course pretty bad like he beats all the other guys. But I'm definitely beating him in fishing and fly- fishing. He needs to go a little bit to catch me on the river.



FERGUSON: I love that. I mean, that is just like so cool.

WOODS: That is.

FERGUSON: You know, just shows that every -- off the course, you're all great friends.

WOODS: Yes, we all are. We compete against each other, try and beat each other's brains in when we're playing. But off the golf course, everything is put aside.

FERGUSON: And your mom didn't -- I don't know -- please say if I'm wrong. But didn't she say that, Tiger, when you're on the golf course, you just go for it and you just go out there to win, and when you're off, after the game, that's when the sportsmanship comes about?

WOODS: That's exactly it. You carry yourself in a competitive atmosphere. You compete as hard as you possibly can while you're playing, and you give it absolutely everything you have. You have nothing left in the tank. When it's done, hey, shake hands, let's be friends. Let's go out, have dinner, go hang out.

FERGUSON: Go fishing.

WOODS: Go fishing.

FERGUSON: Try to beat him at fishing.

WOODS: I try and beat him at fishing, but you know...


... he's so much better than I am. I'm probably about an -- probably an eight to 10 handicap in fishing, in fly-fishing.

FERGUSON: Well, that's good.

WOODS: That's not bad, but you know, he's a scratch. Marco's a scratch. He's pretty good.

WOODS: Now, I want to get onto the Ryder Cup controversy. Do you think there's going to be some controversy this year with the Ryder Cup?

WOODS: I don't think so. I hope not. I hope that the Ryder Cup is conducted in the atmosphere that it was meant to be conducted in. And unfortunately, people at Brookline the last Ryder Cup, they got out-of-control. I mean, a lot of it because of the fact that they have too many of the beverages of their choice.

And you know, when we play in the morning, the morning was pretty subdued and pretty quiet. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) people wore rooting for Europeans and people were rooting for us, which is supposed to be that way. But by the afternoon after lunch, they're having a few, it's already starting to kick in, then it started becoming more vocal and that's when it started getting out-of-hand.

FERGUSON: Yeah. Because you don't drink actually, do you, or do you drink very little?

WOODS: Very little.

FERGUSON: Well, not when you're on the course. Of course not.

WOODS: Not when I'm playing, no.

FERGUSON: No. But I mean, I just wondered, you know, when you were sort of -- New Year's Day, was it, when you dyed your hair blond?

WOODS: I did it actually -- I did it the 23rd of December.

FERGUSON: Did you?

WOODS: I did.

FERGUSON: I was just really upset you didn't dye it red, you know. That like really upset me. WOODS: I'm sorry, Fergie.


No, but I -- I've always wanted to dye my hair blond. I grew up in Southern Cal, and a lot of the surfers and the people I've hung out with have always died their hair, and I just kind of hung around that crowd. So I've always wanted to do it, and so I finally decided to do it. And I saw my mom Christmas Day.

FERGUSON: And she liked it -- did she like it?

WOODS: I think my mom -- I was almost expelled from the house.


FERGUSON: I bet. And dad?

WOODS: Dad just looked at me and says -- and just shook his head, and he says, oh, my god, what did you do now?

FERGUSON: Well, it didn't stop your game, so that's the main thing.

WOODS: No, and it was just a lot of fun, something I've always wanted to do. And I'll do it again just to have a little fun.

FERGUSON: OK. Well, you can put a little red henna in it, OK, too, just to keep me happy.

WOODS: A little highlight there. All right, you got it.


FERGUSON: Now, the best endorsement -- you've been doing so well with the endorsements, and I think that's really great. I mean, you've done extraordinary things and you're moving forward. Have you ever had really strange, someone like -- (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Tiger, we want you to endorse this product. What's the most strangest one?

WOODS: I've had some very interesting ones, probably nothing I can share with the audience, because they're a little on the far side. You know, but I get asked, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) IMG, my management group, gets asked just about every day about endorsing some type of product. And it ranges from your normal household goods toward anything golf- related.


You name it. It's been absolutely unbelievable some of the things. But the good ones I really can't share with all of the viewers, unfortunately.

FERGUSON: The real juicy ones.

WOODS: The real good ones, yeah. FERGUSON: OK. Well, just for that, (UNINTELLIGIBLE). OK. Then we'll get into another subject.

How -- do you find -- has golf -- golf ever become a pressure on you?

WOODS: I don't think golf has ever been any pressure as far as having to succeed. Have I -- is there a pressure out there when you're playing? Oh, yeah. I mean, we're all nervous out there, we're all trying our best. But as far as a burden on my life, no, golf has never been that way, and never will, because I absolutely love golf. I love to play.

When I was kid, I loved to play and I loved to compete. I never thought I actually would love it more than I did when I was a kid, and actually, as I've gotten older, I actually love it more now than I did when I was a kid. And that to me is absolutely extraordinary, because I -- golf is me. Golf has made me and shaped me into the person I am here today.

FERGUSON: And anybody who is with you knows that golf is the most important thing at this moment, apart from your own humanitarian issues, but that's going to take you to those issues.

WOODS: Correct. Golf is probably the second priority in my life right now, No. 1 being my family.

FERGUSON: Of course.

WOODS: And eventually, you know, golf and family will change, as it all will, when it evolves, when I...

FERGUSON: When you have your own children.

WOODS: When I have my own family. It'll evolve to that. And that'll be the most important thing in my life. But golf is part of me. I'm always thinking about it, always trying to figure out how to get better. It is just -- I try to do things that are creative, and I enjoy trying to manufacture things in tournaments.

FERGUSON: More coming up next on how Tiger Woods can make himself better.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tiger Woods taking the outright lead.


FERGUSON: Hello. We're back again. It's Sarah Ferguson with Tiger Woods.

Tiger, now another question. The longest, straightest drive?

WOODS: The longest, straightest drive. I'm still trying to figure that out.


I don't know how to hit one. I don't know how to get there. If I hit one -- I've hit a few long ones that have been straight, but to actually do it consistently, I'll let you know when I figure that out.

FERGUSON: Really? What driver do you use to do that?

WOODS: Titleist Titanium right now.


WOODS: Basically whatever gets -- gets my ball in the fairway.

FERGUSON: OK. Now, tell me about the ERC driver. Do you know anything about this?

WOODS: The ERC, yeah, yeah.

FERGUSON: And all the sort of situation about whether they...

WOODS: Yeah. The controversy of having the wall thickness too thin, the spring effect.


WOODS: The problem is with -- there's a limitation in their guidelines that our -- our governing body has set, yes, and the Royal and Ancient, which is part of the rest of the world, they believe tat the spring effect is a different standard. So the ERC -- is it legal in all tournaments? No, it's not in all tournaments. But you know, for the average -- for the average player, do I think that's great for them? I think that every player who plays the game of golf wants to abide by the rules. Do we want an advantage to hit the ball further? Yes, but I think every golfer, because of the nature of our game, is different than everybody else, every other sport. We abide by the rules. If we do something that is wrong, we will call it upon ourselves. We police ourselves, which is different.

And that is why I think the viewing public and the golfing public finds ERC extremely controversial.

FERGUSON: Yes. Now, when you want to sort of take advice and go and chat with someone about that, do you go to your -- to Mr. Nicklaus or not?

WOODS: Not really, no. You know, Jack and I have had numerous conversations about a lot of different subjects. And it has been great to be able to pick his brain. We see eye to eye. We have this weird connection that we can -- we understand each other pretty well.

FERGUSON: And do you often play with him?

WOODS: I try to. I try as much as I possibly can to play as many rounds as I possibly can. I was very fortunate to play with him in his last PGA at Valhalla last year in the first two rounds. I mean, that was a dream come true to be able to play and compete against him, you know, eye to eye, even though he had a -- just an amazing tragedy the day before.

His mother passed away. And he played anyways, which I don't know how he did. He went out there and he tried as hard as he could. I mean, it was traditional. It was just the epitome of what you had always thought of what Jack does in competition: He blocks everything out and competes. And that is exactly what he did. I mean, it was weird to see it face to face, because I had never seen it before.

FERGUSON: That is exactly what you have been saying in this hour today. You have been saying: Listen, you have just got to focus and just get out there and do it.

WOODS: I mean, you have a certain amount of time to hit a shot. And you focus on that shot. And that is it. It was just...

FERGUSON: That's the amazing achievement.

WOODS: It was absolutely extraordinary to see in person.

FERGUSON: Both of you together must have been really an extraordinary moment.

WOODS: Yes, we had a lot of fun. To be able to walk up -- we were walking off the 18th tee on Friday afternoon. And it -- we saw the board on 17. And it looked like he had to make birdie to make the cut. And so I walked off the tee with him. And I said: "You know, Jack, why don't we finish this off in the correct way?"


WOODS: Come on, let's finish it off the right way.


WOODS: And he and I both knew that means birdie on the last hole. And he says, "All right, let's go do it."

So I get up there, I hit my ball in the bunker. I blast it out, make birdie. He hits it, spins it back, almost makes eagle, makes birdie. So we both made birdie on the last hole. And that is one of the greatest stories of all time. And...

FERGUSON: I love that story.

WOODS: I was actually -- it was so neat to be a part of it and to experience it and just watch it.

FERGUSON: You know what's amazing about that, is that you both were determined to achieve that. You both said: Right, come on. Let's do birdie on this.

WOODS: That is right. And we didn't want to let other one show the other person up. And so, you know, you had to accomplish your end of the bargain.

FERGUSON: But, for people watching who do play golf, they would say: Right, look, they focused. They said they are going for birdie. And they did it.

WOODS: Yes. And it was a cool thing to be able to be a part of.

FERGUSON: And that's like, if they want to reduce their handicap -- if you want to reduce your handicap, get out there, disciplined practice...

WOODS: That's right.

FERGUSON: And go for it.

WOODS: That's right. You get out of it what you put into it. And if you have the discipline, the work ethic, it's amazing how the things will just unfold naturally.

FERGUSON: Who else has been -- who is the next person you would like to play with and to have that kind of challenge with?

WOODS: There are so many great players in the world right now, so many good young players.

FERGUSON: Who do you think is hot on your heels?

WOODS: There's a lot of players, actually. I mean, there are a lot of great young players that are right there, who are in their 20s and early 30s, that golf is going to be in for a great treat over the next 20 years in this generation that we are competing in. And we are going to go head to head. There's probably about 10 of us. We're going to head to head for the next 10, 15, 20 years.

FERGUSON: Coming up; You've got to listen who else he is going to have a round of golf with.



JACK NICKLAUS, PGA GOLF PLAYER: If I'm still passing the baton -- which I think it's been passed long before this -- it is, you know, I couldn't pass it to a -- I think a nicer young man who is a better -- who obviously is the cream of the crop right now -- by a mile.




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Watch out, it could go in.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This looks good. Right in the middle.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I'm telling you what. This is absolutely brilliant, Johnny. Wow! Brilliant play there.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And yet more history.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He caught that awfully good, John.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look at this. Look at this!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Tiger Woods is the 100th U.S. Open champion.


FERGUSON: I have got to ask you some, like, straightforward questions, because the viewers out there are going: Ask him this question!

OK, your worst course.

WOODS: Worst course I've ever played.

FERGUSON: Ever played.

WOODS: I have played a few in my life that are the best of its kind. That's probably the best way to explain it.


FERGUSON: That is the tactful way of saying it. But, I mean, OK: the most challenging course, then.

WOODS: The most challenging: probably any U.S. Open course we have played. The U.S. Open is probably one of the hardest tests because of -- obviously, you have narrow fairways, high rough, hard and fast greens. And usually, it's played under some extreme conditions. I would probably have to say some of those events.

FERGUSON: Last weekend, we watched you at the Buick International. What did it feel like to come fourth?

WOODS: What did it feel like? Not very good.


WOODS: No, because, you know, I want to win. And I came close. But then again, in reality, I did the best I possibly could, because I didn't really have the game I needed to have in order to win that tournament. But I gave myself a chance. And a lot of times, that is what you need to do. You need to gut it out. Sometimes you are not going to have your best stuff. FERGUSON: When Tiger Woods walks into the competition and all the players go, "Ah, Tiger is there," do you feel that sense that they are all intimidated by you -- or not?

WOODS: Not really, because, one, a lot of them are my friends. And we hang out together. But, you know, when you are playing, it is a different story, though. I block all that out. Whether I am intimidating or not, I don't know because I'm not in their heads. I do the best I can.

The only thing I can focus on is what I can. And that is: Hit my own golf ball. I can't control what they do.

FERGUSON: Tiger, you have rebuilt your swing, right? Now, you are saying to me that you are going to rebuild -- well, not rebuild, but you're going to work even more on your game. What on Earth area can you improve?

WOODS: The thing is, though, I changed my swing pretty dramatically from '97 to where you see it present day. And when I say I'm changing my swing a little bit, it is just a little. It's just fine-tuning. I have done all the major reconstruction of my golf swing.

Right now, I'm just kind of working on a couple little things here and there, which I'm going to do for the rest of my life, because golf is one of those fickle games in which you are going to -- it's going to come and go. And you are going to have to try and keep track of it and always trying to fix it -- little things here and there. But the major construction work that I have done on my game is pretty much over. And I just need to just fine-tune it.

FERGUSON: Do you think that a lot of your game has changed due to your fitness?

WOODS: Yes, actually, a lot of it. I could not get in the positions that I am now without getting stronger and hit a lot of the shots that I hit now because I am stronger. I was not exactly the strongest person when I was a little boy. And I had to work pretty diligently to get to where I am at now.

I wasn't blessed with having enormous size and strength. I did it through a different way of just kind of whipping it out there somehow. It was timing and everything. But timing only goes so far. You need to actually have some good fundamentals.

FERGUSON: You must have inspiration apart from your dad. Is there anyone else that you aspire -- that inspires you to go on and keep going?

WOODS: You know what, that's a great question because I have never met a person in which I felt this kind of aura before, when I was meeting Nelson Mandela. I've never felt an aura like that before.

To be able to meet him at his home and be able sit down and talk to him for -- we were down there for close to an hour -- it was just an absolutely incredible experience for me because I've never felt that kind of warmth and tranquility and that humbleness that he just -- he just exudes. Something about him, that he just -- when you leave being in his presence, you just -- you know you've left. There's not too many people you can say that about. But you know you're not there anymore. And that's pretty impressive.

FERGUSON: And you came away with one thought? Did he say one thing to you which you've always remembered?

WOODS: No, not really. I think it's just the whole experience of how he -- I mean, he told us the whole story about being in the mines and, you know, how he basically orchestrated the whole thing, and why he had the mentality that he did when he came out.

And that, to me, is mind-boggling. And to be able to be that humble and to have that type of focus on what he wanted to accomplish down the road, it just blew my mind.

FERGUSON: But I think a lot of people of feel that with you, though, Tiger, even at 25.

WOODS: Hey, I just chase a little white ball around.

FERGUSON: Yes, you're right. Yes, sure.

But the thing is, is that -- and coming up next, I'm going to ask you about who you'd like to -- six people you'd like to have dinner with. More from Tiger Woods: six people he'd like to have dinner with -- coming up next.





WOODS: How about that one, huh?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Make it exciting.

WOODS: Oh, baby, gotta love it. Whoo!




JOHNNY MILLER, COMMENTATOR: Good looking golf swing there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boy, it has launched a mile in the air. And it is right at the flag.


MILLER: Look at this.


FERGUSON: Welcome back. I'm Sarah Ferguson, sitting in for Larry.

With us for the hour: the amazing Tiger Woods.

This dinner plan -- this dinner table we are doing, right? There's me and Larry, of course, because you'd love to invite us.

WOODS: OK, that's two out of the way.

FERGUSON: Yes, that's two. And there's you. That's three. You've got another five -- no, four.

WOODS: You can't count, can you?



WOODS: No -- let's see. Who would I love to have dinner again with? With Mr. Mandela. I would have to say, I'd like to go back in time and actually be able to meet Martin Luther King, to see, you know, what kind of person he was. I heard he was actually extraordinary. I wasn't around during that era.

But to do some of the things that he was able to do to change the whole view of, not only our of our country, but the entire world was absolutely extraordinary. And I'd like to just pick his brain for a little bit.

FERGUSON: But it would actually be quite good your dad and him getting together, wouldn't it? Because you dad really had a hard time, didn't he?

WOODS: My dad did experience a lot of that. Segregation practices were definitely in full effect when he grew up. When he played at Kansas State University in baseball, he wasn't allowed to stay with the team when they went up and played Oklahoma. He had to go down to Oklahoma City and stay in a black hotel. You know, little things like that, it was just very tough growing up for him.

FERGUSON: Because he always says that he sometimes had -- was made to go in the back door in through the kitchen, and never


FERGUSON: ... in the front door.

WOODS: Yes, yes. Yes, that's exactly what it was.

FERGUSON: And do you -- do you sometimes have these problems too, or not?

WOODS: I did when I was growing up a little bit. I went through a little bit of that, not to extent that my father or that generation had to put up with. But I did have to experience a little bit of it.

FERGUSON: But I guess that is what really helps you now, because you have such an understanding of it.

WOODS: Well, in order to fully understand something, it is probably best to go through that experience yourself. You know, fortunately, but unfortunately, I shouldn't have had to experience. I don't want any kid to ever experience that. It wasn't a good feeling then. And when I recollect on it, it's not a good feeling now.

FERGUSON: Well, thanks to you, hopefully more children will be able to have strength and go forward, will not have to experience...

WOODS: Thank you. Thanks, Fergie.

FERGUSON: Not at all.


FERGUSON: The other thing people want to know is, right -- viewing -- the golfing viewers, please -- will you ever wake up one morning and say: Right, that is it; I don't want to play anymore?

WOODS: Yes, right now.

FERGUSON: Right now.

WOODS: Right now. I'm done.


WOODS: No, there are times when, yes, I don't want to play. I don't want to touch a club. And that's not during tournament week. During tournament weeks, I obviously want to play. I want to grind it out I want to win a tournament. But there are stretches where, yes, I don't pick up a club. The longest stretch I have ever gone through, I think is close to three weeks.

I never touched a club -- never even touched a club. So if my caddy would have put a banana in my bag, oh my goodness.

FERGUSON: That's really useful always to play with banana, yes. But what's the longest drive, then? Come on. Got to ask these viewers these questions.

WOODS: Ah, longest drive I ever hit? I remember hitting one, I remember in a practice round at Royal Birkdale at the British Open in '98, it was howling downwind. And I hit it as hard I as possibly could, just for heck of it. And I hit it 412 yards.

FERGUSON: OK. So you had taken your (UNINTELLIGIBLE) that morning. WOODS: That was a good one.

FERGUSON: And have you ever done it since?

WOODS: Hit something that far?


WOODS: No, not even close

FERGUSON: But, I mean, that was in the wind and everything.

WOODS: That was in the wind. The ball rolled forever. But to be able -- I normally hit the ball, I would say, about 280, 290.

FERGUSON: My dad said that there is a course in this country called "The Howling Bitch." Is that right?

WOODS: I don't know. It would definitely be interesting to play.


FERGUSON: But if it's not, we better...


WOODS: It's a great name.

FERGUSON: It's good, isn't it?

WOODS: Oh, my goodness.

FERGUSON: You never played that, Tiger?

WOODS: I've never played there. But that would be an interesting course to play.

FERGUSON: Well, I'll tell you something: After this show, if he has got that wrong, I'm going to get him.

Now, tips: Come on. Come on. We've got the great Tiger Woods here.

WOODS: Tips. I think the best tip I have received is from my father. And that is: You get out of it what you put into it. If you work hard and you bust your butt, and you go out there and you try as hard as you possibly can, try to get better, you will get better. If you don't put in any effort at all, you don't deserve it.

FERGUSON: You are a great believer in discipline, aren't you?

WOODS: I get that -- you know, people think I get that from my dad. But I don't. I get that from my mom. My mom was the tough one. My dad was always the one who was more lenient. My mom was -- obviously, she's from an Asian heritage. And that heritage and that culture is a lot different than it is here.

FERGUSON: Well, I love your mom. She is always saying to me when I speak to her -- she always goes: "Now, come on. Come on. What are you up to? Get on with it. How did it go?"

WOODS: That's exactly how she is.

FERGUSON: She moves me along.

WOODS: Well, she -- she has got more energy. Oh, my goodness. She never stops.

FERGUSON: And she chases you around the golf course, doesn't she?

WOODS: It is so funny. She has had a bum knee. She has had knee surgery. But she is still out there. She will endure the pain and walk. I remember as a kid, growing up:, in every single junior golf tournament she took me to -- every single one, from the time I can remember all the way up through when I was done when I was 17 -- she always kept score at every single one.

FERGUSON: I remember when I came to one and I was watching you, and I had blisters on my feet. And I -- I went: "You know, Tida, I have got such blisters." She says: "It doesn't matter. Come on. Come on. Tiger is over at the next -- come on. Hurry up with it."

WOODS: Yes, that's exactly...

FERGUSON: And you see me, like, hobbling along behind.

WOODS: That's how she is, though. I mean, she has had, as I said, knee surgery. She has had all different ailments. It doesn't stop her from supporting her son.

FERGUSON: Oh, I see. That is what more people should do, what more people should hear.

WOODS: I love her to death for that. She has always been there for me. Any time I have ever needed my mom, she is always there.

FERGUSON: And because she didn't believe in babysitters, did she?

WOODS: No, I have never had a babysitter. I've never had one. If something came up, then they would either stay home or they would take me with them. And I would just kind of go along for the ride.

FERGUSON: More coming up with Tiger Woods.


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FERGUSON: What's the future? What is the future for Tiger Woods?

WOODS: The future for Tiger Woods: well, hopefully to continue to play at a high level within my sport, but more importantly, within -- I think within the next five years easily I would like to be able to do more humanitarian activities, not just here in the United States, which we're doing now. But I'd like to go global and spread that. I'd like to go one -- I'd like to go to Thailand, my mom's home country. I'd like to start there.

FERGUSON: Your mom said that she thought that you were a universal child really.

WOODS: Well, I -- she can think whatever she wants to think. That's my mom. But you know, I -- for some reason, I just want to go out there and just help others, and to do something in Thailand, my mom's home country, I think it would be very special.

FERGUSON: Yeah. Well, I was sort of saying like you're doing over here with the -- with the Tiger Woods Foundation and...

WOODS: Yeah, exactly something like that, with the Start Something Program, and maybe I'll add little creative things that we'll probably think about. That's what our board is here to do, and trying to figure out what's best, and how we can impact people's lives in a positive way.

FERGUSON: Goodness, you're doing so much. It's just like so exciting, but I don't know how you get the energy for life. So you must do something. You must -- yeah, and we know you work out and we're not going there. Don't worry. We won't give your game away.


But how -- I mean, humor's very important to you, right?

WOODS: You know, I -- I tell -- obviously, I tell a lot of jokes and I like to laugh and have a great time. That's part of life. There's no -- there's no reason to go through life with your head down, and I always want to keep my chin up and enjoy life, because you only live once.

FERGUSON: And I often want to know what to say to my girls. You've been in the public life all your life, right? What advice would you give to me to help me bring up my girls in the public eye?

WOODS: I think one of the best things my dad's ever, ever given me is just to, what I just said earlier, enjoy life. Understand that there are responsibilities you have for being in the public limelight and that you can't -- you can't ignore that. That is a fact of reality. And today's day and age, it is becoming worse. But that should not in any way, shape or form stop you from enjoying life and doing the things you want to do, because, you know, life is just too quick and it's too short. And you should always have a good time. Be around people you want to be around. And just put a smile on your face at all times.

FERGUSON: You're celebrity status, you walk down the street, OK, and people come up to you, and they just go, oh, Tiger, I've got to tell you, yesterday I played a really bad game.

WOODS: Ummm...

FERGUSON: What do you do?

WOODS: I usually say I'm sorry.


You know, but what else are you going to say to them? And they - it's amazing how people just want to tell you their life experiences, some of the things they've gone through. And unfortunately I don't have as much time as I'd like to have and spend with them. But they seem to want to tell me, and it's -- sometimes I hear great stories. Other times, they're interesting.

FERGUSON: Coming up next, charity and Tiger Woods.



O'MEARA: I think Tiger basically is just a regular guy, you know, and he's trying to be a regular guy, but he can't be a regular guy, because he is so popular. And really when you look in sports today, he's probably the most recognized athlete in the world. And who would have ever dreamed that a golfer would have achieved something like that?



JIM FURYK, PROFESSIONAL GOLFER: And I enjoy playing rounds with him. It gets to be a little bit of a circus around his group. There's a lot of people out there. But you know, if you're playing with him, especially on the weekend, you know you're doing pretty well.



FUNK: You know, it's amazing to me, with no private life and what he has to put up with, you know, he's bigger than the game of golf and I think he's handling that great.


FERGUSON: That's really nice, Tiger. That is just so moving, isn't it?

WOODS: Well, those are my friends, and...

FERGUSON: You bribed them.


WOODS: I did.

FERGUSON: That was just like so great, because, in fact, people watching and young people watching, they really want to sort of like -- you're their role model, you're their inspiration. And it's a lot to live up to. It's a big burden, do you think or not?

WOODS: You know, I -- I don't really think it is. It's something that I'm -- I think is -- I'm very blessed, I'm very fortunate to be put in this position, to be able to have the life that I want to have always lived -- to be professional golfer competing against the best players in the world -- and on top of that be able to touch kids' lives and people's lives in a positive way. What more do you want in life.

FERGUSON: But Tiger, what is it in you that has that? What is that? You're so compassionate. Where does that come from?

WOODS: I think it all boils down to two people in my life, my mom and my dad. Those are the -- that's how they raised me to be. They raised me to care and share. If I care about something, I'll share what I have. And that's something that -- my dad's always been that way. He's always stressed to be on the compassionate side, you know, don't be such a hard-nosed grinder. You know, enjoy life, but just enjoy being who you are.

FERGUSON: Do you ever beat yourself up?

WOODS: You know, I do at times, yes.


WOODS: I have to be honest.

FERGUSON: So you're human.

WOODS: I have to be honest. I do. But you know, you also have to step back and take a look at it, and say, you know what, I've -- I try as hard as I possibly can no matter what I do. And as long as I can continue to do that, then whatever the outcome is that's what the outcome is. I give it everything I have. If I have nothing left, then I have nothing left.

FERGUSON: But you sound you have the wisdom of a much older person. You're 25 years old. I mean, it's kind of extraordinary to listen to you speaking.

WOODS: Well, I think it's -- to be honest with you, it's just something that -- what you're seeing is who I am. I'm always relaxed. I'm not really stressed out about a whole lot. The only thing stresses me out is when I have a 250-yard shot over water and I've got to hit it in there tight. And that -- that's stressful.

FERGUSON: OK, that's major stress. Can I go on to something else here, because I'm fascinated in this book? In fact, this book is going to really help me, too. It's called "Start Something: You Can Make a Difference."

WOODS: That's right.

FERGUSON: And just reading it and looking at it, I was just like really taken by it. It's kind of guidelines and boundaries for young people.

WOODS: That's right. That's right. And my father had a little dream of his, and he was able to make a dream come true. And it's a book in which my dad has put a lot of his life experiences in the book, and also some of the teachings that he's given me, some of the knowledge he's given me over the years, and the expressions, and why he did that, why he did this, some of the things I believe in are in there. And it's basically a role modeling, a guide book for kids to live life at a higher level.

FERGUSON: I mean, this is -- this is really starting something.

WOODS: It is. It's absolutely incredible. My dad had a dream, and he actually put it down on paper, and it's absolutely incredible.

FERGUSON: So in fact, if they read this, we could have lots of Tiger Woodsies around then. We could have hundreds of you.

WOODS: I don't know. I'm sure -- I'm sure there are -- there are going to be kids out there that are so much more gifted than I am in the sport of golf. But you know, that's not what this is all about. This is all about doing something more than just playing a sport. It's about becoming a better person, and from there, sharing what you have. What I told you about: caring and sharing -- sharing what you have with others and spreading the knowledge.

FERGUSON: And that's what the TW Foundation is all about?

WOODS: Well, the foundation has a tremendous amount of involvement within basically three different things: one being what we do for Target House, Saint Judes Children's Hospital in Memphis.

FERGUSON: You gave a donation, a substantial...

WOODS: Yeah, half a -- half a million dollars to the Target House for a pavilion library. So it's for kids with cancer and...

FERGUSON: And it's the Tiger Woods Pavilion, isn't it? And what's going to be in that pavilion? A library and... WOODS: A library, and just so -- where kids can hang out and play and experience being with one another, because I mean, not everyone -- everyone who's there is going through their own individual battle, but to be able to go along with that battle with someone else who's going through the same thing just makes it that much easier.

FERGUSON: But I mean, you must have to fund raise a great deal to do all these wonderful works that you do. How do you do that? Isn't there a Tiger Jam?

WOODS: Yeah, there's a Tiger April 28th.

FERGUSON: And who's playing? We've got to go.

WOODS: We have John Mellencamp playing, and two of the Dixie Chicks. One of them is pregnant, so she can't attend. But...

FERGUSON: Just one Dixie Chick, right?

WOODS: Yeah, so it will be actually extraordinary.

FERGUSON: OK. So where is it?

WOODS: It's in Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay, and then I also have my golf tournament at the end of the year.

FERGUSON: And where's that -- where's that golf tournament?

WOODS: It's in Los Angeles at Sherwood Country Club.

FERGUSON: OK. So now, Tiger, just tell me, how do you manager to do all this?

WOODS: Well, you know, that's -- that's the greatest question of all.

FERGUSON: Everybody asks that question.

WOODS: I am very busy, but then again I also have a lot of time for other things, too, which is even more amazing. I take time out to go fishing and go hang out with my buddies and just kind of get away from...

FERGUSON: Fishing, you love fishing.

WOODS: I absolutely love to fish.

FERGUSON: Why do you love fishing?

WOODS: It's something about just going out on a river and just waiting in the river and just hanging out and...

FERGUSON: Can you be on your own there?

WOODS: For some reason it's just the tranquility of it all, and to be able to just relax and let everything go, and you know, you're obviously still competing. You're still trying to land that fish.

FERGUSON: Yeah. So you actually are doing exactly the same thing with the river.


WOODS: Exactly.

FERGUSON: Beat that river.

WOODS: That's right.

FERGUSON: Well, good for you. And what about -- do you still manage to like go to movies or go...

WOODS: I do, yeah.


WOODS: I do everything that everyone else does. The only difference is I have consequences for doing that, and it just depends on what level.

FERGUSON: Like how many autographs do you sign in one night?

WOODS: Um-hmm.

FERGUSON: Do you still get down to Taco Bell?

WOODS: You know, I've kind of...


I've kind of actually shunned away from fast food, but you know, I've still got to go there every once in a while.

FERGUSON: More coming up with the wonderful Tiger Woods.


WOODS: There you go. There's your fade.


WOODS: Give me five. Come on. Give me some. All right. All done.




FERGUSON: For a young person watching that is caught and trapped in a sad world and doesn't have any hope, what would you say? WOODS: That's the hardest thing, to try and give them some type of hope, some type of inspiration. That's what I'm trying to do now with my foundation, is trying to give these kids a chance.

We have all our things that we do with the inner city in various cities. But when you're trapped in an uncomfortable situation, even a compromising situation, to be able to come out of it and rise above it, and that's the most challenging thing. And can I give advice to that? Yeah, I can. But every person and every situation is individually different and unique.

I think the best way to go about it is to seek help. Go through a teacher or a guardian outside of where you're at now to try to get some help, because there are a lot of people in this world who are willing to help you. You just sometimes -- you need to make initiative, and go out there and do it yourself.

FERGUSON: So you've got ask for help.

WOODS: That's the most -- that's the hardest thing. I'm not one -- all my friends know I don't like asking for help. I'm very stubborn, I have a lot of pride. But you've got to swallow that. You've got to put all that aside.

FERGUSON: Well, I disagree, because I asked you to help me and you're here today, and you've been the bestest friend anyone could wish to have. And I'm getting all emotional, so I better shut up.

We've been speaking to golf great, the greatest friend as well, Tiger Woods. I'm Sarah Ferguson thank you for joining us on LARRY KING LIVE.



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