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CNN SUNDAY MORNING

Interview With Bowman Hasty

Aired September 29, 2002 - 07:40   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Now to a few canines who really earn their biscuit. They are dogs with jobs.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Meet Duncan, who likes to dance. A Sheba Inu (ph) who mops. A Boston terrier TV star.

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CATHERINE CALLAWAY, CNN ANCHOR: These hardworking hounds are featured in the new season of "Dogs with Jobs," which premieres this week on the National Geographic channel. I'll be watching that.

COOPER: Yes, I think a lot of people will. Joining us now, the owner of an artistic pup, Bowman Hasty, and his dog, Tillamook Cheddar, otherwise known as Tilly.

CALLAWAY: Tilly, that's a great dog. You can just tell, that's a great dog. Thanks for being with us this morning, not Tilly, you, Bowman.

BOWMAN HASTY, DOG OWNER: Thanks for having us.

CALLAWAY: We're glad Tilly is here, too. But if Tilly talks, then she really will have a job for sure.

HASTY: She'll probably making some noise pretty soon.

CALLAWAY: Oh good.

COOPER: Oh really? So what does Tilly do? Now you know, you know, this is a series about dogs with jobs, but what is Tilly's job?

HASTY: Tilly is a visual artist.

CALLAWAY: Ooh.

HASTY: She's had five solo exhibitions in New York so far.

COOPER: Wait a minute, wait a minute, your dog has had five solo exhibitions?

HASTY: Yes, she has.

COOPER: I know artists like who have spent their lifetimes trying to get one.

HASTY: Well, it helps to be a cute little dog, let me tell you.

COOPER: I guess so.

CALLAWAY: Well, uh-oh.

COOPER: Uh-oh, Tilly's gone. I think we lost her.

CALLAWAY: What kind of work does Tilly do? Does she draw, paint?

HASTY: She uses -- I brought some material. She's going to do a little demonstration, but what she uses is basically a map board that is covered with a colored transfer paper, which works like carbon paper, basically.

CALLAWAY: OK.

HASTY: I tape it down onto the map board. And then any marks she makes on the outside of the board transfers onto the surface below, so...

CALLAWAY: We got to see this. You got to do it now.

HASTY: Yes, I think she's very anxious.

CALLAWAY: All right. And maybe you can -- look at her. She loves it. Here she goes.

COOPER: Now, that's not smeared with peanut butter or anything, is it?

HASTY: No, no, there's no food involved.

CALLAWAY: Well, she's not making much of a mark now.

COOPER: Oh, no, there's...

HASTY: Well, you won't see the marks appear until after we take away the transfer paper. It's sort of the nature of the medium. You don't see the image developing while she's making...

COOPER: Well, right now, the medium seems to be saliva.

CALLAWAY: Yes.

HASTY: Yes.

CALLAWAY: Can you tell us how you found out Tilly could do -- oh, Tilly does not want that...

COOPER: Oh, Tilly's very protective of her artwork, apparently.

HASTY: Yes, she doesn't like me to interfere. CALLAWAY: There she goes. How did you find out she could do this? I mean, it's not every day you stick a piece of paper down with transfer paper on top of it?

HASTY: Yes, well, I was sitting on my couch when Tilly was just about six months old. I was writing something on a tablet on my lap. And she just jumped up and started digging away at the surface. And I had the idea that I -- that she was trying to communicate through writing or drawing. And I thought that I could record her markings with carbon paper. So I did just initially slipped a piece of carbon paper under the top sheet. And she went right back to it.

And when I revealed the image, I thought it was interesting enough to encourage her to continue. So it's just been a matter of the technique sort of evolving...

COOPER: Now, how do you know when the artwork is done?

HASTY: Well, for the sake of TV, we might have to cut her a little bit short here.

CALLAWAY: Yes, let's cut her short. Let's take a look at her most recent work.

HASTY: So you want to have a look at this?

CALLAWAY: Let's have a look at this.

HASTY: She's not going to want me to take this away from her.

CALLAWAY: You got to feed her something. Oh, look.

COOPER: With the knife. What are you taking out the knife for?

HASTY: I got to cut the paper away here.

COOPER: OK.

HASTY: Let's see.

CALLAWAY: Well, the one thing is for certain is the dog really enjoys this.

HASTY: She's -- yes. She's got a very good work ethic.

CALLAWAY: And you know, Bowman, you should tell us that you do this for a good cause. I mean, you sell a lot of this artwork. And the money goes to humane societies and...

HASTY: We do. We often -- yes, we most of the proceeds or at least portion of the proceeds will always go to some dog related fund, whether it's the ASPCA or Brooklyn Animal Resource Coalition.

COOPER: How old is Tilly?

HASTY: She's going to be four in January. CALLAWAY: And how much has Tilly made so far? Can you tell us?

HASTY: I would say in the five figures.

CALLAWAY: Oh.

COOPER: For a dog, that's good...

HASTY: He's doing pretty well. Oh, this is not a bad piece at all.

CALLAWAY: Oh, all right. OK. Now does Tilly sign her work?

COOPER: What do you think that means? Does Tilly offer any explanation for the meaning of her work?

HASTY: I -- she doesn't, you know, that's one of the problems with applying meaning to her work. You're not going to really get anything out of her as far as what it means. So it's really up to the viewer to decide.

CALLAWAY: All right, Bowman, good luck with Tilly. We are very impressed with her abilities.

HASTY: Thank you. And be sure to watch her on "Dogs with Jobs" on the National Geographic channel.

CALLAWAY: All right, we will. Good-bye, Tilly.

COOPER: Bye bye, Tilly.

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