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'Talk of CNN'

Aired October 10, 2002 - 06:23   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: How appropriate "Like A Virgin" would come right before this next story. Because, you know, it's not too often we end up using the -- I can't even say it...
CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No, don't even try.

COSTELLO: It's a man's genitals, that "P" word. You know what I'm talking about.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: I can't even say it.

But anyway, that's what the Z Morning Zoo with Frankie and T.B. want to talk about this morning on our Talk of CNN segment. They are with KZHT 94.9 F.M.

Good morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, how are you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how appropriate. We're both virgins, too, Carol. So that's a great talk.

COSTELLO: Oh, I bet you.

Anyway, this is kind of a serious matter for those who believe in first amendment rights. Evidently Jay Leno had these puppeteers on who, and their puppets are, you know, of a man's genitals.

MYERS: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. But the whole thing is, apparently, because we didn't see Jay Leno because our NBC affiliate decided not to show it because they thought that we shouldn't see it, but he didn't even, from what I heard, talk, they didn't show what they were going to do. They just talked about, you know, their whole puppetry thing.

COSTELLO: Well, who made this decision? The local television station?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, the local NBC affiliate, which is KSL. They just decided -- and they've done this in the past -- that, hey, if they don't want you to see it, then we're not going to see it. COSTELLO: Well, might they have gotten many calls from viewers?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I'm not sure and we're going to find out this morning when we talk about it again, because we just caught wind yesterday morning, it was in "The Tribune," that they weren't going to run it. So we'll find out today. We know that everybody on our station yesterday was calling. And they seemed kind of incensed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A little hurt, betrayed.

COSTELLO: What other things has that local affiliate decided not to show the people of Salt Lake City, Utah?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Saturday Night Live." They don't show any "Saturday Night Lives" ever.

MYERS: Wow! Really?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I haven't seen "Saturday Night Live" in, I don't know, I've been here five years, in probably five years.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, but on that...

COSTELLO: Are people really that conservative in your area?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you know what? There is another, the W.B. Network, they pick up where our KSL, our NBC affiliate, leaves off. So they have been showing the "Saturday Night Lives" and they actually, I think, aired the Leno last night. But...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The W.B. did?

COSTELLO: Well, so here's the big battle, there's a big battle going on. The W.B. has decided to snare the viewers that the NBC affiliate won't.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. And I don't think that, that's the whole thing, they're creating this perception, I think, for the rest of the country that -- I think there's a lot of people in the United States that think we're wack jobs in Salt Lake City because we're weird. I mean they're creating that whole perception like what's going on in Salt Lake City? They don't want...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're perpetuating it. They really are.

MYERS: Have you seen the ratings on the W.B.? I mean are they good?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think they are pretty good, as far -- well, maybe not, you know, not "Saturday Night Live," for that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, and the NBC...

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They haven't really been that good in the past five years, so that's not the W.B.'s fault. But...

COSTELLO: Well, one more question and then we have to let you guys go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

COSTELLO: Is the Mormon Church behind these decisions? Do they have a, does it have anything to do with it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I think they do have an influence on that, because...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They own that TV station here in town.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Yes.

COSTELLO: Got you. Understand.

We'll let you guys go. I'm sure it'll be a spirited debate this morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely.

So can you tell us how Leno ended last night, because we really want to know, because we didn't see it?

COSTELLO: We didn't see it either. We had to go to bed.

MYERS: I was sleeping, man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, no. Was the monologue funny? Damn it.

COSTELLO: It was pretty funny and we understand they didn't actually show the penis puppets -- I'll just say it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So we'll never know how it ended up then?

COSTELLO: No, no. You'll have to get a tape from Jay Leno.

Hey thanks, guys. We'll talk to you again next week.

MYERS: Thanks, guys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thanks, Carol.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bye.

COSTELLO: I got through that OK.

MYERS: Yes, you did.

COSTELLO: OK.

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Aired October 10, 2002 - 06:23   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: How appropriate "Like A Virgin" would come right before this next story. Because, you know, it's not too often we end up using the -- I can't even say it...
CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No, don't even try.

COSTELLO: It's a man's genitals, that "P" word. You know what I'm talking about.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: I can't even say it.

But anyway, that's what the Z Morning Zoo with Frankie and T.B. want to talk about this morning on our Talk of CNN segment. They are with KZHT 94.9 F.M.

Good morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, how are you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how appropriate. We're both virgins, too, Carol. So that's a great talk.

COSTELLO: Oh, I bet you.

Anyway, this is kind of a serious matter for those who believe in first amendment rights. Evidently Jay Leno had these puppeteers on who, and their puppets are, you know, of a man's genitals.

MYERS: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. But the whole thing is, apparently, because we didn't see Jay Leno because our NBC affiliate decided not to show it because they thought that we shouldn't see it, but he didn't even, from what I heard, talk, they didn't show what they were going to do. They just talked about, you know, their whole puppetry thing.

COSTELLO: Well, who made this decision? The local television station?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, the local NBC affiliate, which is KSL. They just decided -- and they've done this in the past -- that, hey, if they don't want you to see it, then we're not going to see it. COSTELLO: Well, might they have gotten many calls from viewers?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I'm not sure and we're going to find out this morning when we talk about it again, because we just caught wind yesterday morning, it was in "The Tribune," that they weren't going to run it. So we'll find out today. We know that everybody on our station yesterday was calling. And they seemed kind of incensed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A little hurt, betrayed.

COSTELLO: What other things has that local affiliate decided not to show the people of Salt Lake City, Utah?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Saturday Night Live." They don't show any "Saturday Night Lives" ever.

MYERS: Wow! Really?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I haven't seen "Saturday Night Live" in, I don't know, I've been here five years, in probably five years.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, but on that...

COSTELLO: Are people really that conservative in your area?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you know what? There is another, the W.B. Network, they pick up where our KSL, our NBC affiliate, leaves off. So they have been showing the "Saturday Night Lives" and they actually, I think, aired the Leno last night. But...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The W.B. did?

COSTELLO: Well, so here's the big battle, there's a big battle going on. The W.B. has decided to snare the viewers that the NBC affiliate won't.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. And I don't think that, that's the whole thing, they're creating this perception, I think, for the rest of the country that -- I think there's a lot of people in the United States that think we're wack jobs in Salt Lake City because we're weird. I mean they're creating that whole perception like what's going on in Salt Lake City? They don't want...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're perpetuating it. They really are.

MYERS: Have you seen the ratings on the W.B.? I mean are they good?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think they are pretty good, as far -- well, maybe not, you know, not "Saturday Night Live," for that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, and the NBC...

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They haven't really been that good in the past five years, so that's not the W.B.'s fault. But...

COSTELLO: Well, one more question and then we have to let you guys go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

COSTELLO: Is the Mormon Church behind these decisions? Do they have a, does it have anything to do with it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I think they do have an influence on that, because...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They own that TV station here in town.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Yes.

COSTELLO: Got you. Understand.

We'll let you guys go. I'm sure it'll be a spirited debate this morning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely.

So can you tell us how Leno ended last night, because we really want to know, because we didn't see it?

COSTELLO: We didn't see it either. We had to go to bed.

MYERS: I was sleeping, man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, no. Was the monologue funny? Damn it.

COSTELLO: It was pretty funny and we understand they didn't actually show the penis puppets -- I'll just say it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So we'll never know how it ended up then?

COSTELLO: No, no. You'll have to get a tape from Jay Leno.

Hey thanks, guys. We'll talk to you again next week.

MYERS: Thanks, guys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thanks, Carol.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bye.

COSTELLO: I got through that OK.

MYERS: Yes, you did.

COSTELLO: OK.

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