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Interview With Joumana Kidd, B.J. Sigesmund, Michael Ian Black

Aired June 10, 2003 - 09:52   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Time now for the segment we call "90- Second Pop," we bring on three entertainment reporters and entertainment experts and get their quick thoughts on deep pressing issues, like popular culture. This morning we have with us B.J. Sigesmund, entertainment reporter for "Newsweek," Joumana Kidd, special correspondent for the television show "Extra," and actor Michael Ian Black.
Good morning to all of you, a great diverse panel.

Let's go ahead and start with television. We've been talking about reality television all morning long from our viewers, talking about the Osbournes and "Fame."

Joumana, I want to start with you. Have you checked out "Fame" and Debbie Allen who's searching America to see if there is anybody out there who "American Idol" has not tapped yet?

JOUMANA KIDD, "EXTRA" SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: I did actually. And you know, I am guilty of being one of the biggest "Fame" fans.

KAGAN: The original one?

KIDD: Yes, yes. I always loved "Fame." Maybe that's why, for me, I thought it was a great idea, and I love Debbie Allen. I think she's so talented. Of course, if someone's going to find the most talented, well-rounded, as she quoted, sort of like -- where "American Idol," of course, they're very talented, but you know, here, you've got to be able to sing, dance and be bigger than life on stage, yes.

KAGAN: Triple threat. I agree. I think Debbie Allen is kind of like the mother hen, makes everybody feel kind of good about going out there and trying. What about "The Osbournes," Michael? Our viewers writing kind of sound like they've kind of had it with "The Osbournes."

MICHAEL IAN BLACK, ACTOR/COMEDIAN: I couldn't be more tired of Ozzie and his brood. It it was up to me, Ozzie would slowly shuffle off the stage and go retire at the old rock stars home.

B.J. SIGESMUND, "NEWSWEEK": Supposedly tonight is like so boring. I mean, it is just a discussion of how Kelly doesn't like Christina Aguilera, and Christina Aguilera doesn't like Kelly.

BLACK: Wait, wait, wait. Kelly doesn't like Christina?

SIGESMUND: Yes, I know. It is a total shocker. BLACK: Bill? Bill? Have you heard? Kelly and Christina Aguilera don't get along.

SIGESMUND: So supposedly we're going to have to deal with nine more episodes before they finally pack it up.

KAGAN: Or you could just turn the channel or head to the movies, and that is what we are going to do right now. It is a tough summer. Very fickle moviegoers out there. You can't stay No. 1. "2 Fast 2" was the last movie No. 1.

SIGESMUND: This is the way summer has been, though, for the last few years. The studios blow these movies out, releasing them in three or 4,000 theaters, put a ton of money behind the marketing, and then they explode. They're the No. 1 comedy that has never been released and -- then it disappears. The next weekend, it's totally gone. The exception this summer is, I think, going to be "Finding Nemo," which was just $6 million short of being the No. 1 movie again this last weekend, and I think this coming weekend, the competition, the new movies are "Hollywood Homicide" and "Rugrats" and one other one I can't remember, but I feel like we could see "Finding Nemo" slip into the No. 2 or No. 1 slot again.

BLACK: I disagree with you. I feel like "2 Fast 2 Furious" will stand up. It is a classic of our time.

SIGESMUND: I miss Vin Diesel.

BLACK: Vin Diesel is to acting, I think, what Mariah Carey is to acting.

KAGAN: Oh, gosh. You guys, you are brutal. Very dangerous to speak out against the fish here on this program. "Finding Nemo" is very popular.

I'm going to put you on the hot spot now. Let's talk about "American Idol," kind of get back to the reality theme. Clay and Ruben, this was a big controversy. The voting, of course, Ruben won over Clay, but their singles come out now, and is Clay going to come back and be No. 1?

BLACK: Well, is it me or does Clay look a lot like Pippy Longstocking?

KAGAN: It is you.

BLACK: It is me, right? I'm going to have a hard time buying his single, despite his beautiful voice.

SIGESMUND: You know, a lot has been said about the fact that Clay is No. 1 on Amazon.com pre-orders and Ruben is like No. 9, but you have got to remember that Amazon.com is only a very small percentage of the record-buying demographic, and we won't really know until the numbers start coming out a week or so from how well these singles are going to do. KIDD: Not just that, but I think it is a different listener. I think the listeners that are going to buy Ruben's CD are maybe a little bit more the R&B, laid back. Where we haven't had anybody like Clay. We haven't had somebody who is going to cater to the Broadway listeners, and so maybe that's why.

KAGAN: Maybe it will be an all-inclusive community and there's room and love for...

(CROSSTALK)

KIDD: Today after "Oprah," anything could happen.

KAGAN: Not this crowd, and you are right, Joumana, they are going to be on "Oprah" debuting their singles. Thanks to all of you, and one more plug, NBA Finals. Your husband, Jason Kidd.

KIDD: Oh, gosh. That's why I am here -- I can't get my mind off it.

KAGAN: And I helped. I bring it up.

KIDD: I have lost like 20 years off my life.

KAGAN: Well, good luck with that, and good luck to the San Antonio fans as well.

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Aired June 10, 2003 - 09:52   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Time now for the segment we call "90- Second Pop," we bring on three entertainment reporters and entertainment experts and get their quick thoughts on deep pressing issues, like popular culture. This morning we have with us B.J. Sigesmund, entertainment reporter for "Newsweek," Joumana Kidd, special correspondent for the television show "Extra," and actor Michael Ian Black.
Good morning to all of you, a great diverse panel.

Let's go ahead and start with television. We've been talking about reality television all morning long from our viewers, talking about the Osbournes and "Fame."

Joumana, I want to start with you. Have you checked out "Fame" and Debbie Allen who's searching America to see if there is anybody out there who "American Idol" has not tapped yet?

JOUMANA KIDD, "EXTRA" SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: I did actually. And you know, I am guilty of being one of the biggest "Fame" fans.

KAGAN: The original one?

KIDD: Yes, yes. I always loved "Fame." Maybe that's why, for me, I thought it was a great idea, and I love Debbie Allen. I think she's so talented. Of course, if someone's going to find the most talented, well-rounded, as she quoted, sort of like -- where "American Idol," of course, they're very talented, but you know, here, you've got to be able to sing, dance and be bigger than life on stage, yes.

KAGAN: Triple threat. I agree. I think Debbie Allen is kind of like the mother hen, makes everybody feel kind of good about going out there and trying. What about "The Osbournes," Michael? Our viewers writing kind of sound like they've kind of had it with "The Osbournes."

MICHAEL IAN BLACK, ACTOR/COMEDIAN: I couldn't be more tired of Ozzie and his brood. It it was up to me, Ozzie would slowly shuffle off the stage and go retire at the old rock stars home.

B.J. SIGESMUND, "NEWSWEEK": Supposedly tonight is like so boring. I mean, it is just a discussion of how Kelly doesn't like Christina Aguilera, and Christina Aguilera doesn't like Kelly.

BLACK: Wait, wait, wait. Kelly doesn't like Christina?

SIGESMUND: Yes, I know. It is a total shocker. BLACK: Bill? Bill? Have you heard? Kelly and Christina Aguilera don't get along.

SIGESMUND: So supposedly we're going to have to deal with nine more episodes before they finally pack it up.

KAGAN: Or you could just turn the channel or head to the movies, and that is what we are going to do right now. It is a tough summer. Very fickle moviegoers out there. You can't stay No. 1. "2 Fast 2" was the last movie No. 1.

SIGESMUND: This is the way summer has been, though, for the last few years. The studios blow these movies out, releasing them in three or 4,000 theaters, put a ton of money behind the marketing, and then they explode. They're the No. 1 comedy that has never been released and -- then it disappears. The next weekend, it's totally gone. The exception this summer is, I think, going to be "Finding Nemo," which was just $6 million short of being the No. 1 movie again this last weekend, and I think this coming weekend, the competition, the new movies are "Hollywood Homicide" and "Rugrats" and one other one I can't remember, but I feel like we could see "Finding Nemo" slip into the No. 2 or No. 1 slot again.

BLACK: I disagree with you. I feel like "2 Fast 2 Furious" will stand up. It is a classic of our time.

SIGESMUND: I miss Vin Diesel.

BLACK: Vin Diesel is to acting, I think, what Mariah Carey is to acting.

KAGAN: Oh, gosh. You guys, you are brutal. Very dangerous to speak out against the fish here on this program. "Finding Nemo" is very popular.

I'm going to put you on the hot spot now. Let's talk about "American Idol," kind of get back to the reality theme. Clay and Ruben, this was a big controversy. The voting, of course, Ruben won over Clay, but their singles come out now, and is Clay going to come back and be No. 1?

BLACK: Well, is it me or does Clay look a lot like Pippy Longstocking?

KAGAN: It is you.

BLACK: It is me, right? I'm going to have a hard time buying his single, despite his beautiful voice.

SIGESMUND: You know, a lot has been said about the fact that Clay is No. 1 on Amazon.com pre-orders and Ruben is like No. 9, but you have got to remember that Amazon.com is only a very small percentage of the record-buying demographic, and we won't really know until the numbers start coming out a week or so from how well these singles are going to do. KIDD: Not just that, but I think it is a different listener. I think the listeners that are going to buy Ruben's CD are maybe a little bit more the R&B, laid back. Where we haven't had anybody like Clay. We haven't had somebody who is going to cater to the Broadway listeners, and so maybe that's why.

KAGAN: Maybe it will be an all-inclusive community and there's room and love for...

(CROSSTALK)

KIDD: Today after "Oprah," anything could happen.

KAGAN: Not this crowd, and you are right, Joumana, they are going to be on "Oprah" debuting their singles. Thanks to all of you, and one more plug, NBA Finals. Your husband, Jason Kidd.

KIDD: Oh, gosh. That's why I am here -- I can't get my mind off it.

KAGAN: And I helped. I bring it up.

KIDD: I have lost like 20 years off my life.

KAGAN: Well, good luck with that, and good luck to the San Antonio fans as well.

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