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Pan Am 103 Deal
Aired August 14, 2003 - 06:08 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: More on the Lockerbie deal now. Reverend John Mosey joins us on the phone from London. He lost his 19-year-old daughter, Helga Mosey, on Pam Am Flight 103.
Thanks for joining us this morning.
REV. JOHN MOSEY, VICTIM'S FATHER: Good morning.
COSTELLO: Is this enough?
MOSEY: Hello?
COSTELLO: Can you hear me?
MOSEY: Yes.
COSTELLO: I was just asking you if this settlement that Libya has offered is enough.
MOSEY: That's really not for me to say. It's considered enough by the people who have been involved, and we have never pursued Libya and we haven't particularly asked for this. It is a requirement of the United Nations that they pay compensation. We didn't know about that until a couple of years ago.
COSTELLO: And how does that make you feel that you didn't know about it?
MOSEY: It didn't really affect us very much at all. But we are glad that at least some sort of closure can come for some people, and I'm sure that will be the case for many people.
COSTELLO: You know, I can vividly remember when this happened, and I can vividly remember how evil Americans thought Muammar Gaddafi was. Did you ever expect there would come a time when he would admit guilt?
MOSEY: Well, he hasn't done that yet. It sounds as if it's imminent, but he hasn't done that yet. And anybody, even the most evil and unpredictable person, can repent, and thank God for that. We all need to repent of many things.
And, of course, the huge international pressure that's been put on him and that has forced him down this road with this whole, huge package, which isn't just money. It's renouncing terrorism, which he's done and not been found to be involved in terrorism. That he's released the two for trial in Holland, which he did. That he's cooperated with the inquiry, which he did. That he is ready to accept some guilt, and that he's ready to pay compensation. I think that's quite a long road to travel down, and it has brought us to a point where maybe we can count Libya a little bit nearer to being a friendly nation than an enemy. That's got to be good.
COSTELLO: You really think so? Because I just remember what the sentiment was in America back in the 1980s about Muammar Gaddafi and Libya. I mean, the United States attacked that country.
MOSEY: Yes.
COSTELLO: It's just a strange thing to think that we could have good relations with Libya and Muammar Gaddafi.
MOSEY: Look, on this side of the Atlantic, I think these things are largely viewed in a very different light. The bottom line, and a lot of people won't like (UNINTELLIGIBLE), but the bottom line is, and my daughter is dead, if the Libyans are guilty, she's dead because of the Libyan attack on Tripoli. And the reason for that, the Valdel (ph) disco has never yet been proven; rather the reverse. My daughter is dead because of American foreign policy, and so I find that difficult to accept as the terrorists, whoever they were, who did it.
COSTELLO: Explain that, sir. Why is it American policy's fault?
MOSEY: That they struck against a country on floozy evidence, which has since proved to be totally unreliable.
COSTELLO: All right, Reverend Mosey, I wish we had more time, but thank you for joining us this morning. And we're sorry for the loss of your daughter.
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Aired August 14, 2003 - 06:08 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: More on the Lockerbie deal now. Reverend John Mosey joins us on the phone from London. He lost his 19-year-old daughter, Helga Mosey, on Pam Am Flight 103.
Thanks for joining us this morning.
REV. JOHN MOSEY, VICTIM'S FATHER: Good morning.
COSTELLO: Is this enough?
MOSEY: Hello?
COSTELLO: Can you hear me?
MOSEY: Yes.
COSTELLO: I was just asking you if this settlement that Libya has offered is enough.
MOSEY: That's really not for me to say. It's considered enough by the people who have been involved, and we have never pursued Libya and we haven't particularly asked for this. It is a requirement of the United Nations that they pay compensation. We didn't know about that until a couple of years ago.
COSTELLO: And how does that make you feel that you didn't know about it?
MOSEY: It didn't really affect us very much at all. But we are glad that at least some sort of closure can come for some people, and I'm sure that will be the case for many people.
COSTELLO: You know, I can vividly remember when this happened, and I can vividly remember how evil Americans thought Muammar Gaddafi was. Did you ever expect there would come a time when he would admit guilt?
MOSEY: Well, he hasn't done that yet. It sounds as if it's imminent, but he hasn't done that yet. And anybody, even the most evil and unpredictable person, can repent, and thank God for that. We all need to repent of many things.
And, of course, the huge international pressure that's been put on him and that has forced him down this road with this whole, huge package, which isn't just money. It's renouncing terrorism, which he's done and not been found to be involved in terrorism. That he's released the two for trial in Holland, which he did. That he's cooperated with the inquiry, which he did. That he is ready to accept some guilt, and that he's ready to pay compensation. I think that's quite a long road to travel down, and it has brought us to a point where maybe we can count Libya a little bit nearer to being a friendly nation than an enemy. That's got to be good.
COSTELLO: You really think so? Because I just remember what the sentiment was in America back in the 1980s about Muammar Gaddafi and Libya. I mean, the United States attacked that country.
MOSEY: Yes.
COSTELLO: It's just a strange thing to think that we could have good relations with Libya and Muammar Gaddafi.
MOSEY: Look, on this side of the Atlantic, I think these things are largely viewed in a very different light. The bottom line, and a lot of people won't like (UNINTELLIGIBLE), but the bottom line is, and my daughter is dead, if the Libyans are guilty, she's dead because of the Libyan attack on Tripoli. And the reason for that, the Valdel (ph) disco has never yet been proven; rather the reverse. My daughter is dead because of American foreign policy, and so I find that difficult to accept as the terrorists, whoever they were, who did it.
COSTELLO: Explain that, sir. Why is it American policy's fault?
MOSEY: That they struck against a country on floozy evidence, which has since proved to be totally unreliable.
COSTELLO: All right, Reverend Mosey, I wish we had more time, but thank you for joining us this morning. And we're sorry for the loss of your daughter.
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