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Euro Edition: Morning Papers

Aired October 17, 2003 - 05:45   ET

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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Now, though, it is time to check what's making headlines overseas in this morning's 'Euro Edition.' Tony Campion live for us in London.
Good morning, Tony, what's on the front pages?

TONY CAMPION, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Carol.

We have spoken about this story before. Let's talk about it again, because it finally looks like it's going to happen. This is the front page of "The Times," the very orthodox traditional broad sheet paper in the U.K. Talking about it looks like a huge split in the Anglican church, I guess you have got to say it's likely at this point, you know the issue of the gay bishops and the fact that in New Hampshire Gene Robinson is the bishop-elect.

The big question, could the 36 kind of national Anglican churches from around the world persuade the U.S., part of the Anglican church, not to go ahead with this controversial appointment of a gay man as a bishop? And, well the answer is no, they can't. I mean the -- I'd just have to say quite rightly in my view. The U.S. church is saying it's irrelevant. We're going to go ahead, we're going to make this man a bishop whether he is gay or not.

But you know these 18 million Anglicans that there are around the world, I mean 20 million come from Nigeria. It's a very orthodox country. It has very different views on whether gay people have the same rights as they have elsewhere. And that only goes completely against the teachings of God and the Bible and so on and they are outraged.

It looks like the Anglican church of the United States could well be, at this point, pushed out on a limb and set off on its own. I'm not quite sure what the implications of that are when it comes down to it. You've got to ask yourself if this is all a bit of a storm in a teacup? Think about how many Anglican people there are in the U.S. I think it's about two million, isn't it? I mean that compares to a population that's roughly about a hundred times as big as that or a hundred and something.

So you know how much do you care? I don't know. Dr. Williams is the Archbishop of Canterbury. He is going to set up a commission to report within 12 months on the dangers of gay ordinations and same sex blessings. It sounds like the 19th century, doesn't it?

COSTELLO: Well, we have our own controversial thoughts about that here in the United States, so we can certainly relate with both sides of the story there.

We want an update, though,...

CAMPION: Sure.

COSTELLO: ... about David Blaine, because I understand he's made the papers again and people really don't like him over there.

CAMPION: He has. Well, you know there's been a sort of a resurgence of sympathy for Blaine, because, of course, he's been stuck in this box. This is the "Daily Mirror," one of the tabloids here. We've got a couple of pictures of David Blaine. He's been stuck in a box sort of near the River Thames near Tower Bridge. It's the 42nd day that he's been there. He's not having any food. You probably know about this stuff.

And the point is, what they are saying is if you look at these two photos, one of them is on day 6 and the other is on day 40, does he look any thinner to you than the one on -- in this one? I'm not convinced that he does.

COSTELLO: No.

CAMPION: And what they are all saying is it's an illusion. You know, well who would have thought? And they've got a whole list here of ways that he could possibly have fooled people. And some of the suggestions are pretty obvious. You know people have thrown eggs at his, you've heard about this before, at his box. You know so they've had to bring the box down, clean it. People have been slipping in food, something like that.

But there are some one or two interesting ones here. His jumper, you know his cardigan, whatever, is knitted from noodles. The duvet is filled with marshmallows and his hair is made of licorice. Or maybe it just looks like it's made of licorice. I mean he hasn't washed it for 42 days, I don't know. And what else have we got here, the egg throwers and the verbal abuse is a part of the act. It could all have been preplanned. A magician could conceal things.

I don't know. I have a feeling that the sympathy could evaporate if it turns out that he's been fooling us all along. And that it's his job, though, isn't it?

COSTELLO: I don't think there's much sympathy for him over there, I really don't. And you know he's drinking water, right, so you have to ask yourself what's in the water?

CAMPION: Well, yes. Now the funny thing is he does sort of say anyone can go and test the water at any time, and people have done that. But you know are they stooges? You just don't know, do you? You get these two swings of opinion. On the one hand, people love to hate him, and on the other hand, you know feeling a bit sorry for him if indeed he has. I mean 42 days without food, it's not a nice thing.

COSTELLO: No, it's not. I wouldn't want to do it myself.

Tony Campion, many thanks, live from London this morning.

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Aired October 17, 2003 - 05:45   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Now, though, it is time to check what's making headlines overseas in this morning's 'Euro Edition.' Tony Campion live for us in London.
Good morning, Tony, what's on the front pages?

TONY CAMPION, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Carol.

We have spoken about this story before. Let's talk about it again, because it finally looks like it's going to happen. This is the front page of "The Times," the very orthodox traditional broad sheet paper in the U.K. Talking about it looks like a huge split in the Anglican church, I guess you have got to say it's likely at this point, you know the issue of the gay bishops and the fact that in New Hampshire Gene Robinson is the bishop-elect.

The big question, could the 36 kind of national Anglican churches from around the world persuade the U.S., part of the Anglican church, not to go ahead with this controversial appointment of a gay man as a bishop? And, well the answer is no, they can't. I mean the -- I'd just have to say quite rightly in my view. The U.S. church is saying it's irrelevant. We're going to go ahead, we're going to make this man a bishop whether he is gay or not.

But you know these 18 million Anglicans that there are around the world, I mean 20 million come from Nigeria. It's a very orthodox country. It has very different views on whether gay people have the same rights as they have elsewhere. And that only goes completely against the teachings of God and the Bible and so on and they are outraged.

It looks like the Anglican church of the United States could well be, at this point, pushed out on a limb and set off on its own. I'm not quite sure what the implications of that are when it comes down to it. You've got to ask yourself if this is all a bit of a storm in a teacup? Think about how many Anglican people there are in the U.S. I think it's about two million, isn't it? I mean that compares to a population that's roughly about a hundred times as big as that or a hundred and something.

So you know how much do you care? I don't know. Dr. Williams is the Archbishop of Canterbury. He is going to set up a commission to report within 12 months on the dangers of gay ordinations and same sex blessings. It sounds like the 19th century, doesn't it?

COSTELLO: Well, we have our own controversial thoughts about that here in the United States, so we can certainly relate with both sides of the story there.

We want an update, though,...

CAMPION: Sure.

COSTELLO: ... about David Blaine, because I understand he's made the papers again and people really don't like him over there.

CAMPION: He has. Well, you know there's been a sort of a resurgence of sympathy for Blaine, because, of course, he's been stuck in this box. This is the "Daily Mirror," one of the tabloids here. We've got a couple of pictures of David Blaine. He's been stuck in a box sort of near the River Thames near Tower Bridge. It's the 42nd day that he's been there. He's not having any food. You probably know about this stuff.

And the point is, what they are saying is if you look at these two photos, one of them is on day 6 and the other is on day 40, does he look any thinner to you than the one on -- in this one? I'm not convinced that he does.

COSTELLO: No.

CAMPION: And what they are all saying is it's an illusion. You know, well who would have thought? And they've got a whole list here of ways that he could possibly have fooled people. And some of the suggestions are pretty obvious. You know people have thrown eggs at his, you've heard about this before, at his box. You know so they've had to bring the box down, clean it. People have been slipping in food, something like that.

But there are some one or two interesting ones here. His jumper, you know his cardigan, whatever, is knitted from noodles. The duvet is filled with marshmallows and his hair is made of licorice. Or maybe it just looks like it's made of licorice. I mean he hasn't washed it for 42 days, I don't know. And what else have we got here, the egg throwers and the verbal abuse is a part of the act. It could all have been preplanned. A magician could conceal things.

I don't know. I have a feeling that the sympathy could evaporate if it turns out that he's been fooling us all along. And that it's his job, though, isn't it?

COSTELLO: I don't think there's much sympathy for him over there, I really don't. And you know he's drinking water, right, so you have to ask yourself what's in the water?

CAMPION: Well, yes. Now the funny thing is he does sort of say anyone can go and test the water at any time, and people have done that. But you know are they stooges? You just don't know, do you? You get these two swings of opinion. On the one hand, people love to hate him, and on the other hand, you know feeling a bit sorry for him if indeed he has. I mean 42 days without food, it's not a nice thing.

COSTELLO: No, it's not. I wouldn't want to do it myself.

Tony Campion, many thanks, live from London this morning.

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