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Euro Edition: Morning Papers

Aired November 03, 2003 - 05:45   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Right now, though, it is time to check on what's making headlines overseas in this morning's 'Euro Edition.' Tony Campion live for us in London.
Good morning -- Tony.

TONY CAMPION, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello again, Carol.

Yes, you just said it, Gene Robinson, there he is, the world's first openly gay bishop. He's all over the papers here, too. This is "The Guardian," the leading left wing broad sheet, if I can put it like that. And I mean, basically, you know the sort of angle that they are going on here is, and surprisingly by focusing what Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has been saying. And those, as you know, critical statements of the fact really that (UNINTELLIGIBLE) now looks likely more than the fact that a gay bishop has been consecrated as soon as the sad news was under way, because he expresses deep regret that the divisions are going to be all too visible and the fact it's not going to be possible for Gene Robinson's ministry, as a bishop, to be accepted in every province in the communion. A bit of a gob full.

But what he is really trying to say is that this is -- this is going to cause splits, it's going to cause problems, as if we didn't know it already. And just as an example, there's a really nice article on page four here where they talk about a guy in South Africa. You can see Stanley Luangwa (ph) there, perhaps, just top left. I guess it's kind of a small picture. It raises a good issue. He's a lot closer to one of the eternally damned than he realizes, so says this article. This is a guy who has been in church in South Africa and he is highly critical of Robinson. Robinson is a devil. He should die immediately because he is going to lead people to hell. What he does is a sin.

And what he doesn't know is that his own preacher is only three meters away from this guy is also gay but he's just not openly gay. So is it better to be, I mean even from the point of view of somebody who doesn't believe in the rights of gay people to be in the Anglican Church, is it better for a gay person to be out or not be out, that is the question that this article tries to raise. It's kind of an interesting angle, isn't it?

COSTELLO: Yes, absolutely, and we're not going to answer it, either of us, this morning. On to more headlines. What else...

CAMPION: Well absolutely not.

COSTELLO: What else is up?

CAMPION: Now this is a good one. Yes, this is the ship. Have you heard of this ship, the MS Aurora, that is full of people with a rather nasty condition that basically means they spend a rather long time in the bathroom. Let's just leave it at that. Five hundred people have had this gastroenteritis sickness. Now this is -- it's a cruise ship. It's in the Mediterranean and it's -- here it is. It's due to be -- it was due to be docking in Greece. Greece wouldn't have it. They said you can't come here because you are all too ill. So then it sort of like meandered off on the Mediterranean...

COSTELLO: Well that was kind.

CAMPION: ... a bit and next stop, well, we'll try Gibraltar. British ship and of course Gibraltar owns Britain. No, it's the other way around. Britain owns Gibraltar, so you would have thought that it would be OK. But there was even a hooha (ph) about whether or not you know this ship was going to be allowed to dock there. And Spain, would you believe, has now closed the border with Gibraltar as a reaction to the fact that people are going to be allowed off this ship onto Gibraltar. Of course Gibraltar is kind of a British enclave right at the bottom of Spain just where Europe...

COSTELLO: Well what do they think these people were going to do, start a plague?

CAMPION: Who knows? Well, yes, I mean I guess. The Gibraltaran (ph) first minister has said that this is a gross overreaction on the part of the Spanish. And you know it's kind of interesting, I'm not entirely unconvinced that Spain isn't breaking some kind of European law by this because you can't just close borders in law -- in Europe anymore. That's what the European Union is about. I mean it's like -- it's like you know, I don't know, Arizona just saying well we're not having people from Nevada anymore because we don't like them, you know. But there you go, that's another one anyway.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about the marathon man, the seven continents in -- yes, that thing.

CAMPION: Isn't this just incredible? I mean here we got a picture of two very tired looking guys in "The Times" and seven marathons in seven days in seven countries. The -- this article here in "The Times," it's kind of just posing the reception they got. You'll have seen it, I'm sure, and you probably got pictures of it. Thirty thousand runners, you know, launching them on their way for their final marathon. Thirty thousand runners to keep them company moved off at a walk before breaking into a slow trot, then a slightly less slow trot, which was fair enough, they had run a long way. Sir Ranulph and Dr. Stroud had started their feat alone, except for two penguins and an explorer with a pink starting ribbon in their first marathon, which was, of course, rather a long way off -- excuse me -- in southern Chili.

COSTELLO: Well...

CAMPION: The southern most point they could find because, of course, they couldn't get to Antarctica.

COSTELLO: Well they were in New York yesterday and they were running near P.Diddy for a short time and they finished. Good for them.

CAMPION: Sure, yes. Yes.

COSTELLO: Tony Campion, live...

CAMPION: Isn't it incredible. I tell you what...

COSTELLO: Go ahead.

CAMPION: I was just going to say, a couple of interesting quotes at the end here, just to finish with. Dr. Ranulph is going to be -- you know this whole thing was a bet, and he's going to be buying lunch for -- Sir Ranulph is going to be buying lunch for Dr. Stroud because they essentially made this bet when they crossed Antarctica 10 years ago. He was asked if he'd do it again. And he says this has been enjoyable throughout, apart from the running. I wouldn't advise any of my friends to try it, and I certainly would never do it again.

COSTELLO: Yes, I can certainly relate to that, kind of. Tony Campion, live from London, many thanks.

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Aired November 3, 2003 - 05:45   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Right now, though, it is time to check on what's making headlines overseas in this morning's 'Euro Edition.' Tony Campion live for us in London.
Good morning -- Tony.

TONY CAMPION, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello again, Carol.

Yes, you just said it, Gene Robinson, there he is, the world's first openly gay bishop. He's all over the papers here, too. This is "The Guardian," the leading left wing broad sheet, if I can put it like that. And I mean, basically, you know the sort of angle that they are going on here is, and surprisingly by focusing what Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, has been saying. And those, as you know, critical statements of the fact really that (UNINTELLIGIBLE) now looks likely more than the fact that a gay bishop has been consecrated as soon as the sad news was under way, because he expresses deep regret that the divisions are going to be all too visible and the fact it's not going to be possible for Gene Robinson's ministry, as a bishop, to be accepted in every province in the communion. A bit of a gob full.

But what he is really trying to say is that this is -- this is going to cause splits, it's going to cause problems, as if we didn't know it already. And just as an example, there's a really nice article on page four here where they talk about a guy in South Africa. You can see Stanley Luangwa (ph) there, perhaps, just top left. I guess it's kind of a small picture. It raises a good issue. He's a lot closer to one of the eternally damned than he realizes, so says this article. This is a guy who has been in church in South Africa and he is highly critical of Robinson. Robinson is a devil. He should die immediately because he is going to lead people to hell. What he does is a sin.

And what he doesn't know is that his own preacher is only three meters away from this guy is also gay but he's just not openly gay. So is it better to be, I mean even from the point of view of somebody who doesn't believe in the rights of gay people to be in the Anglican Church, is it better for a gay person to be out or not be out, that is the question that this article tries to raise. It's kind of an interesting angle, isn't it?

COSTELLO: Yes, absolutely, and we're not going to answer it, either of us, this morning. On to more headlines. What else...

CAMPION: Well absolutely not.

COSTELLO: What else is up?

CAMPION: Now this is a good one. Yes, this is the ship. Have you heard of this ship, the MS Aurora, that is full of people with a rather nasty condition that basically means they spend a rather long time in the bathroom. Let's just leave it at that. Five hundred people have had this gastroenteritis sickness. Now this is -- it's a cruise ship. It's in the Mediterranean and it's -- here it is. It's due to be -- it was due to be docking in Greece. Greece wouldn't have it. They said you can't come here because you are all too ill. So then it sort of like meandered off on the Mediterranean...

COSTELLO: Well that was kind.

CAMPION: ... a bit and next stop, well, we'll try Gibraltar. British ship and of course Gibraltar owns Britain. No, it's the other way around. Britain owns Gibraltar, so you would have thought that it would be OK. But there was even a hooha (ph) about whether or not you know this ship was going to be allowed to dock there. And Spain, would you believe, has now closed the border with Gibraltar as a reaction to the fact that people are going to be allowed off this ship onto Gibraltar. Of course Gibraltar is kind of a British enclave right at the bottom of Spain just where Europe...

COSTELLO: Well what do they think these people were going to do, start a plague?

CAMPION: Who knows? Well, yes, I mean I guess. The Gibraltaran (ph) first minister has said that this is a gross overreaction on the part of the Spanish. And you know it's kind of interesting, I'm not entirely unconvinced that Spain isn't breaking some kind of European law by this because you can't just close borders in law -- in Europe anymore. That's what the European Union is about. I mean it's like -- it's like you know, I don't know, Arizona just saying well we're not having people from Nevada anymore because we don't like them, you know. But there you go, that's another one anyway.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about the marathon man, the seven continents in -- yes, that thing.

CAMPION: Isn't this just incredible? I mean here we got a picture of two very tired looking guys in "The Times" and seven marathons in seven days in seven countries. The -- this article here in "The Times," it's kind of just posing the reception they got. You'll have seen it, I'm sure, and you probably got pictures of it. Thirty thousand runners, you know, launching them on their way for their final marathon. Thirty thousand runners to keep them company moved off at a walk before breaking into a slow trot, then a slightly less slow trot, which was fair enough, they had run a long way. Sir Ranulph and Dr. Stroud had started their feat alone, except for two penguins and an explorer with a pink starting ribbon in their first marathon, which was, of course, rather a long way off -- excuse me -- in southern Chili.

COSTELLO: Well...

CAMPION: The southern most point they could find because, of course, they couldn't get to Antarctica.

COSTELLO: Well they were in New York yesterday and they were running near P.Diddy for a short time and they finished. Good for them.

CAMPION: Sure, yes. Yes.

COSTELLO: Tony Campion, live...

CAMPION: Isn't it incredible. I tell you what...

COSTELLO: Go ahead.

CAMPION: I was just going to say, a couple of interesting quotes at the end here, just to finish with. Dr. Ranulph is going to be -- you know this whole thing was a bet, and he's going to be buying lunch for -- Sir Ranulph is going to be buying lunch for Dr. Stroud because they essentially made this bet when they crossed Antarctica 10 years ago. He was asked if he'd do it again. And he says this has been enjoyable throughout, apart from the running. I wouldn't advise any of my friends to try it, and I certainly would never do it again.

COSTELLO: Yes, I can certainly relate to that, kind of. Tony Campion, live from London, many thanks.

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