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Nominees, History of the Golden Globes
Aired January 23, 2004 - 11:12 ET
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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: Sunday night's Golden Globe Awards will, of course, be about high fashion and a lot of star gazing. But ultimately it's the films and TV shows that are going to be getting top billing.
CNN's Daryn Kagan back with me from Beverly Hills to handicap some of this year's nominees.
You got some favorites -- Daryn.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There are a lot of good movies out there, I have to say, Carol. I mean we warmed up in the last hour. I tried on the jewels and have been looking at all the gifts. But, oh, yes, it's about the movies. So let's look ahead at Golden Globes on Sunday and see who might win and how that might impact the Oscar race.
An old friend of the program, Tom O'Neil, we find you down here in Beverly Hills, from Goldderby.com and "In Touch" magazine.
Good morning.
TOM O'NEIL, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Good morning, Daryn.
KAGAN: Let's get right to it. "Lord of the Rings," the third in the trilogy, "Return of the King," is this going to be the reward, the acknowledgement of Peter Jackson and his work, his three fine movies? Do you think this is their big year?
O'NEIL: I think it's a slam dunk shoe-in. We give it one to seven odds at Goldderby.com. You can't get any better than that. But you know because you cover this all the time, Daryn. This is, this never happens, that a fantasy movie wins the top prize. It's been 20 years at the Globes since we've seen that happen. It was "E.T." there. We've never seen a fantasy win best picture at the Oscars.
KAGAN: And you were pointing out to me some significant fantasy movies and sci-fi movies that were passed over, like "Star Wars."
O'NEIL: "Star Wars," you can look through the list of the top 10 biggest grossing movies of all time, three quarters of them are fantasies and none of them have won best picture.
KAGAN: Let's move on to the actor categories. You and I were talking about bad boys.
O'NEIL: Yes. KAGAN: There are plenty of them here in Hollywood, none badder than Sean Penn. And yet he probably is, without a doubt, one of the most talented actors of this generation.
O'NEIL: And everyone's saying it's Sean's year. He's had...
KAGAN: "Mystic River."
O'NEIL: "Mystic River" and "21 Grams." He had two big movies. But he's also a three time past Globe loser, just like Bill Murray.
KAGAN: And why is that?
O'NEIL: Because he's a bad boy and bad boys have bad attitudes and they have bad luck at these things.
KAGAN: A bad boy.
O'NEIL: You've got to be a member of the club.
KAGAN: You've got to play?
O'NEIL: You've got to play.
KAGAN: Oh.
O'NEIL: You can't swing the club, you know? And so I wonder if Sean really is ahead. We give him eight to five odds, but I'm the only person on the Web site who says no, I think it's Ben Kingsley for "House of Sand and Fog."
KAGAN: Really, another fine performance.
O'NEIL: Yes, yes.
KAGAN: Excellent.
Let's talk women. Charlize Theron. Anyone that beautiful who can look that ugly as she does in "Monster," well, there's some kind of award for that.
O'NEIL: Yes. Yes.
KAGAN: I imagine by the time she's on the red carpet she'll be back to her glamorous self.
O'NEIL: Absolutely. But Nicole Kidman can win an Oscar and a Globe last year for "Plastic Nose," all the prosthetics that Charlize has at least gets her a win this year, and she will win.
KAGAN: You do think she will win?
O'NEIL: Oh, yes. She really can't lose.
KAGAN: Now, the significance of this year, because people sometimes glaze over all these awards shows. But this really kicks it off, Golden Globes.
O'NEIL: Yes.
KAGAN: This used to be significant because back in the day when Oscars were a month later, this would, some people thought, influence who would be nominated for an Oscar. But the Oscar folks have moved up Oscars. It's going to be on February 29.
What does that do to the Golden Globe Awards? Are they insignificant now?
O'NEIL: No, they're more significant than ever.
KAGAN: Really?
O'NEIL: In the past 60 years of Globe history, 44 of their best pictures have gone on to win best picture at the Oscars. That's astounding. And best actor/actress lines up two thirds of the time over the past 30 years. But now, Daryn, we had two months before between them, now with one month between them, the repeat rate is going to even be higher.
KAGAN: And remind our viewers exactly who the Hollywood Foreign Press Association is.
O'NEIL: Right. These are journalists who write for the...
KAGAN: In quotes, some people would say.
O'NEIL: No, they are, they're not. It's very cool.
KAGAN: You have to write four pieces for a foreign publication.
O'NEIL: Right.
KAGAN: That's to qualify.
O'NEIL: Because, but, on the other hand, I mean look at this way, that these guys are all freelancers. They work for the Iceland Reykjavik Weekly or the Cairo gazette and they're -- those aren't staff positions...
KAGAN: And they're steering Hollywood. That doesn't strike you as odd?
O'NEIL: I know, but they've created something wonderful here at the Golden Globes. These things are worth 24 karat gold and it's to their credit.
KAGAN: Absolutely amazing. So it's going to be a big week. We're going to be here for Golden Globe Sunday. You'll be red carpet, as well. And then Tuesday Oscar nominations.
O'NEIL: I know. Wow.
KAGAN: Licking their chops here in Hollywood. O'NEIL: It's exciting.
KAGAN: Tom O'Neil, thank you.
O'NEIL: Thank you, Daryn.
KAGAN: Good to see you here in Beverly Hills.
So, Carol, the excitement is beginning. A lot of money on the line and it could be, depending on exactly how well a movie does after the nomination, after the awards here in Hollywood.
LIN: All right, thanks, Daryn, for sharing that with us.
We'll see you in just a bit.
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Aired January 23, 2004 - 11:12 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: Sunday night's Golden Globe Awards will, of course, be about high fashion and a lot of star gazing. But ultimately it's the films and TV shows that are going to be getting top billing.
CNN's Daryn Kagan back with me from Beverly Hills to handicap some of this year's nominees.
You got some favorites -- Daryn.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: There are a lot of good movies out there, I have to say, Carol. I mean we warmed up in the last hour. I tried on the jewels and have been looking at all the gifts. But, oh, yes, it's about the movies. So let's look ahead at Golden Globes on Sunday and see who might win and how that might impact the Oscar race.
An old friend of the program, Tom O'Neil, we find you down here in Beverly Hills, from Goldderby.com and "In Touch" magazine.
Good morning.
TOM O'NEIL, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Good morning, Daryn.
KAGAN: Let's get right to it. "Lord of the Rings," the third in the trilogy, "Return of the King," is this going to be the reward, the acknowledgement of Peter Jackson and his work, his three fine movies? Do you think this is their big year?
O'NEIL: I think it's a slam dunk shoe-in. We give it one to seven odds at Goldderby.com. You can't get any better than that. But you know because you cover this all the time, Daryn. This is, this never happens, that a fantasy movie wins the top prize. It's been 20 years at the Globes since we've seen that happen. It was "E.T." there. We've never seen a fantasy win best picture at the Oscars.
KAGAN: And you were pointing out to me some significant fantasy movies and sci-fi movies that were passed over, like "Star Wars."
O'NEIL: "Star Wars," you can look through the list of the top 10 biggest grossing movies of all time, three quarters of them are fantasies and none of them have won best picture.
KAGAN: Let's move on to the actor categories. You and I were talking about bad boys.
O'NEIL: Yes. KAGAN: There are plenty of them here in Hollywood, none badder than Sean Penn. And yet he probably is, without a doubt, one of the most talented actors of this generation.
O'NEIL: And everyone's saying it's Sean's year. He's had...
KAGAN: "Mystic River."
O'NEIL: "Mystic River" and "21 Grams." He had two big movies. But he's also a three time past Globe loser, just like Bill Murray.
KAGAN: And why is that?
O'NEIL: Because he's a bad boy and bad boys have bad attitudes and they have bad luck at these things.
KAGAN: A bad boy.
O'NEIL: You've got to be a member of the club.
KAGAN: You've got to play?
O'NEIL: You've got to play.
KAGAN: Oh.
O'NEIL: You can't swing the club, you know? And so I wonder if Sean really is ahead. We give him eight to five odds, but I'm the only person on the Web site who says no, I think it's Ben Kingsley for "House of Sand and Fog."
KAGAN: Really, another fine performance.
O'NEIL: Yes, yes.
KAGAN: Excellent.
Let's talk women. Charlize Theron. Anyone that beautiful who can look that ugly as she does in "Monster," well, there's some kind of award for that.
O'NEIL: Yes. Yes.
KAGAN: I imagine by the time she's on the red carpet she'll be back to her glamorous self.
O'NEIL: Absolutely. But Nicole Kidman can win an Oscar and a Globe last year for "Plastic Nose," all the prosthetics that Charlize has at least gets her a win this year, and she will win.
KAGAN: You do think she will win?
O'NEIL: Oh, yes. She really can't lose.
KAGAN: Now, the significance of this year, because people sometimes glaze over all these awards shows. But this really kicks it off, Golden Globes.
O'NEIL: Yes.
KAGAN: This used to be significant because back in the day when Oscars were a month later, this would, some people thought, influence who would be nominated for an Oscar. But the Oscar folks have moved up Oscars. It's going to be on February 29.
What does that do to the Golden Globe Awards? Are they insignificant now?
O'NEIL: No, they're more significant than ever.
KAGAN: Really?
O'NEIL: In the past 60 years of Globe history, 44 of their best pictures have gone on to win best picture at the Oscars. That's astounding. And best actor/actress lines up two thirds of the time over the past 30 years. But now, Daryn, we had two months before between them, now with one month between them, the repeat rate is going to even be higher.
KAGAN: And remind our viewers exactly who the Hollywood Foreign Press Association is.
O'NEIL: Right. These are journalists who write for the...
KAGAN: In quotes, some people would say.
O'NEIL: No, they are, they're not. It's very cool.
KAGAN: You have to write four pieces for a foreign publication.
O'NEIL: Right.
KAGAN: That's to qualify.
O'NEIL: Because, but, on the other hand, I mean look at this way, that these guys are all freelancers. They work for the Iceland Reykjavik Weekly or the Cairo gazette and they're -- those aren't staff positions...
KAGAN: And they're steering Hollywood. That doesn't strike you as odd?
O'NEIL: I know, but they've created something wonderful here at the Golden Globes. These things are worth 24 karat gold and it's to their credit.
KAGAN: Absolutely amazing. So it's going to be a big week. We're going to be here for Golden Globe Sunday. You'll be red carpet, as well. And then Tuesday Oscar nominations.
O'NEIL: I know. Wow.
KAGAN: Licking their chops here in Hollywood. O'NEIL: It's exciting.
KAGAN: Tom O'Neil, thank you.
O'NEIL: Thank you, Daryn.
KAGAN: Good to see you here in Beverly Hills.
So, Carol, the excitement is beginning. A lot of money on the line and it could be, depending on exactly how well a movie does after the nomination, after the awards here in Hollywood.
LIN: All right, thanks, Daryn, for sharing that with us.
We'll see you in just a bit.
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