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Seven Democratic Candidates Took Part in Debate

Aired January 23, 2004 - 09:03   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Days before the critical primary in New Hampshire -- five days and counting, in fact -- Democrats going to battle last night, taking aim mostly, though, at the White House.
Bob Franken back in Manchester.

What happened last night -- Bob? Good morning there.

BOB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I probably wouldn't call it a battle. It was more like a dance. The Democrats were pretty much dancing to the same tune with some minor modifications. I don't believe that anybody is going to have changed his mind by watching the debate. But, of course, we'll keep up with that with the tracking polls.

In the case of John Kerry, he was trying to maintain his momentum. In the case of Howard Dean, he was trying to stop his downward momentum. The other candidates were just trying to get some momentum, one way or the other. Obviously, an upper momentum is what they were looking for.

And the polls are going to be showing the shifts as we get closer to the election, and everybody is going to be looking to see if there are such dramatic shifts as the ones that we had in Iowa.

But a lot of the attention was focused on Howard Dean, and Al Sharpton saw to it that he razzed him a little bit after Dean had delivered his mea culpa for Iowa.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD DEAN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think a lot of people have had a lot of fun at my expense over the Iowa hooting and hollering, and that's justified. The one thing I can tell you is that I'm not kidding about what I say.

REV. AL. SHARPTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If I had spent the money you did and got 18 percent, I'd still be in Iowa hooting and hollering.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FRANKEN: Well, there were a lot of laugh lines last night, but not a lot of fury, except that was aimed at President Bush. And, of course, the larger point is that each of the candidates wanted to present himself to New Hampshire voters -- New Hampshire Democrats as the man who would be most likely to defeat President Bush in the election in November -- Bill.

HEMMER: All right, Bob thanks -- Bob Franken there in Manchester.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: NASA is still waiting to hear from its Mars Spirit rover. About three hours ago, a series of commands was sent to the rover. Well, now scientists are waiting to see if they get back any meaningful data.

Earlier this morning, we spoke with Orlando Figueroa. He is NASA's director of Mars Exploration, who explained the problem the rover is having.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ORLANDO FIGUEROA, NASA, DIRECTOR MARS EXPLORATION: We had a few signs yesterday through the day that indicated that the rover is listening, but not quite in a way we would like -- you know, a powerful communication link that allows us to get data and a lot of information about it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: Joining us this morning is Jack Horkheimer. He is the executive director of the Miami Planetarium, and he is in our Miami bureau this morning.

Hey, Jack. Good morning. Nice to see you.

JACK HORKHEIMER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MIAMI PLANETARIUM: Good morning.

O'BRIEN: You know, big problems for the rover this morning, so why don't we start there? Exactly how likely is it that this big communications issue is going to be something that can be fixed?

HORKHEIMER: Well, you know, in practically in all of the space vehicles we have ever sent out, we've always had glitches along the way. With Voyager we had several glitches and had problems with it for several weeks.

Anybody who has a computer at home can perhaps understand software problems. If this is a software problem, it probably can be fixed. If it's a hardware problem, that's another problem.

I facetiously said to a colleague of mine last night, perhaps the software got over-spammed on all of those ridiculous pop-up ads from Viagra. If such were the case, it can be fixed. So, let's hope the software can be reprogrammed and turned around.

O'BRIEN: The only problem with that analogy there is you know what? My computer at home doesn't cost $820 million.

HORKHEIMER: Well, that is correct. However, the software in all of these space vehicles has frequently had problems, and they get reprogrammed and reprogrammed. And hopefully by 12:00 noon today, we will know whether or not that this recent fix has taken. And if it hasn't, they'll keep working on it.

I'm hoping it is software, like so many other problems and so many glitches that occur with these spacecraft. The only thing that could be seriously wrong -- that I hope it isn't -- is a hardware problem, because you know, when the hard drive in your home computer goes out, then you've got to really take it in to the dealer. And we can't do that when something is 115 million miles away.

O'BRIEN: Nineteen days in to the mission, a three-month long mission. How big of a setback is it at this point for NASA? Maybe it's really too early to say, because the vote is not in on whether it's fixable or not. But if it's not fixable, how much of a big problem -- how much of a big problem is this for NASA?

HORKHEIMER: Well, it would be a problem if it's not fixable, except that there -- the wonderful thing about our space program is the redundancy factors. We can look at the landing. You know, we have opportunity landing late Saturday, early Sunday. It's an identical package to this one. So, there's redundancy right there. Of course, it's landing in a different spot.

But redundancy factoring in all space vehicles is phenomenal. There are many backup systems that are used, and when one fails another one comes in to play. When another one fails, it comes in to play.

And these robots frequently are able to repair themselves by being given the right instructions from earth. It just takes time. I'm very hopeful, Soledad, that this is going to work. I've got my fingers crossed, and I've got my toes crossed, and I have a lot of faith in this whole program.

O'BRIEN: I bet, and everybody at NASA is right there with you, Jack. All right, Jack Horkheimer with us this morning from the Miami Planetarium. Thanks for being with us, Jack.

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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: A plea deal apparently in the works between prosecutors and attorneys in the Rush Limbaugh drug case, according to newly-released court documents, and in those documents, obtained by a Florida newspaper, confirming what CNN was reporting about a month ago. The deal fell through for unknown reasons.

Prosecutors want to know if the conservative talk show radio host obtained prescription painkillers illegally.

Susan Candiotti is tracking the story from Miami today.

Susan -- good morning there.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Bill.

Yes, all of this apparently started to happen -- that is, communications between Rush Limbaugh's lawyer, Roy Black, a very prominent criminal defense attorney, and the Palm Beach County state attorney's office -- just last month, talking about how this investigation could be handled so that the whole matter could be put to rest; that is to say whether Rush Limbaugh might have illegally obtained legal prescription painkillers.

Well, because of a public records request, we were able to get our hands on, as well as the Fort Lauderdale "Sun-Sentinel" newspaper, a letter -- a letter that states back on December the 11th, written from Roy Black to the state attorney's office, asking for a pretrial intervention in which case there would be -- charges would be dropped, and there would be called null process.

And he says: "I believe this proposal would be in keeping with the public interest. The public is better served by treating addicts as patients rather than criminals."

In other words, Rush Limbaugh would enter a drug treatment program, and then that would be the end of that.

However, the Palm Beach County state attorney's office said that would not be acceptable. And in a letter dated December 15 offered this as a counterproposal: Rush Limbaugh would have to admit to a doctor shopping charge. He would then be offered three years of probation. He would have to complete a drug treatment program. He would have to complete random drug tests and as well as community service. That deal was rejected by attorneys representing Rush Limbaugh.

Now, what's particularly interesting about all of this is that we were able to see these communications through Florida's very liberal public records request law.

Now, consequently, some criminal defense attorneys throughout the state and elsewhere are worrying about this having a possible chilling effect about putting negotiations like this in writing. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KENDALL COFFEY, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: In effect, someone is going to be left doing it all verbally. And for obvious reasons, when you are in serious negotiation, it's very, very much preferred to be able to get some things in writing so there's no misunderstanding about what's being discussed.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CANDIOTTI: It's important to point out that this is an ongoing investigation, that Rush Limbaugh has not been charged with anything, and that the Palm Beach County state attorney's office says he is presumed innocent at this time.

And finally, Bill, you might recall that there's also an appeal going on right now. It is to say, after the prosecutor seized Rush Limbaugh's medical records, and his lawyers are saying that that violated his right to privacy, a constitutional right to privacy, and there is currently a court case going on about that -- Bill.

HEMMER: Susan, thanks.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: A hearing is scheduled a few hours from now in the Scott Peterson murder case. The purpose of the session is to determine a court calendar. The case has certainly seen its share of shifting judges in just the last few days.

For an update, we go to Rusty Dornin now. She's in Modesto, California, for us.

Rusty -- good morning.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Soledad, as you know, the judge that was assigned to this case was disqualified yesterday. Prosecutors didn't have to have a reason to disqualify Judge Richard Arneson (ph), and they didn't give one.

The only thing they stated was -- and I quote -- "That he was prejudiced against the parties.

Now, each side gets one of these peremptory challenges, but this one really came as a surprise. This judge is known for running a very tight courtroom. He is 82 years old. He was appointed to the bench in 1963. But he does show a lot of empathy towards defendants. That might have had something to do with it -- a lot of compassion. He's known for being very, very polite to them, often telling them "Good luck." In fact, there is one story where he actually bought a defendant some shaving cream because he wasn't able to shave, and allowed him to use his personal bathroom.

Now, this disqualification does do one thing, and that is it's going to delay this trial. The office of -- the administrative office of court said that it's going to take until next week to appoint another judge. Now, that does work in the prosecutor's favor, because they were asking for a two-week delay in this case in light of the change of venue, so they could move over to Redwood City, which is about an hour and a half from Modesto, and get things settled.

Now, today is a status hearing, and it was supposed to talk about really when things were going to get rolling in this case. It's expected to be a very short hearing in light of the fact that they don't have a judge -- Soledad.

O'BRIEN: Rusty Dornin for us this morning from Modesto, California. Rusty, thanks.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: There is word this morning that some Halliburton employees took huge kickbacks for giving a contract to a Kuwaiti company.

Let's get the story now from Andy Serwer who is "Minding Your Business."

Good morning.

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Good morning.

Yes, some interesting stuff coming out of the Middle East. According to published reports, Halliburton has told the Pentagon that two employees received kickbacks of up to $6 million for awarding Kuwaiti companies contracts to do business with the U.S. government.

Of course, this raises the level of scrutiny on this company again, because, of course, they were recently involved in charges that they over-billed the U.S. government for gasoline.

The company points out that it made the disclosures itself, and that the employees have been fired. Of course, it's not good stuff for the administration, because Vice President Dick Cheney, of course, was the former CEO of that company.

So, it's a scandal I think that just sort of keeps on going.

O'BRIEN: And certainly in a political year, an important political year, you've got to imagine that lots of people are going to be digging on this story.

SERWER: Hay will be made, yes.

O'BRIEN: Hay will be made.

SERWER: Yes, yes.

O'BRIEN: Let's talk about the market.

SERWER: Yes, futures have turned around this morning. It looks like we are going to have a higher open. And we talked about Microsoft possibly being actively traded this morning because of earnings last night.

Also, another bank merger, not quite as big as the one earlier recently, but we've got one here between Regents Financial out of Birmingham and Union Planners in Memphis, Tennessee, a $6 billion deal. So, those stocks will be moving as well.

O'BRIEN: All right, Andy, thank you.

SERWER: You're welcome.

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Aired January 23, 2004 - 09:03   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Days before the critical primary in New Hampshire -- five days and counting, in fact -- Democrats going to battle last night, taking aim mostly, though, at the White House.
Bob Franken back in Manchester.

What happened last night -- Bob? Good morning there.

BOB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I probably wouldn't call it a battle. It was more like a dance. The Democrats were pretty much dancing to the same tune with some minor modifications. I don't believe that anybody is going to have changed his mind by watching the debate. But, of course, we'll keep up with that with the tracking polls.

In the case of John Kerry, he was trying to maintain his momentum. In the case of Howard Dean, he was trying to stop his downward momentum. The other candidates were just trying to get some momentum, one way or the other. Obviously, an upper momentum is what they were looking for.

And the polls are going to be showing the shifts as we get closer to the election, and everybody is going to be looking to see if there are such dramatic shifts as the ones that we had in Iowa.

But a lot of the attention was focused on Howard Dean, and Al Sharpton saw to it that he razzed him a little bit after Dean had delivered his mea culpa for Iowa.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD DEAN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think a lot of people have had a lot of fun at my expense over the Iowa hooting and hollering, and that's justified. The one thing I can tell you is that I'm not kidding about what I say.

REV. AL. SHARPTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If I had spent the money you did and got 18 percent, I'd still be in Iowa hooting and hollering.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FRANKEN: Well, there were a lot of laugh lines last night, but not a lot of fury, except that was aimed at President Bush. And, of course, the larger point is that each of the candidates wanted to present himself to New Hampshire voters -- New Hampshire Democrats as the man who would be most likely to defeat President Bush in the election in November -- Bill.

HEMMER: All right, Bob thanks -- Bob Franken there in Manchester.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: NASA is still waiting to hear from its Mars Spirit rover. About three hours ago, a series of commands was sent to the rover. Well, now scientists are waiting to see if they get back any meaningful data.

Earlier this morning, we spoke with Orlando Figueroa. He is NASA's director of Mars Exploration, who explained the problem the rover is having.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ORLANDO FIGUEROA, NASA, DIRECTOR MARS EXPLORATION: We had a few signs yesterday through the day that indicated that the rover is listening, but not quite in a way we would like -- you know, a powerful communication link that allows us to get data and a lot of information about it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

O'BRIEN: Joining us this morning is Jack Horkheimer. He is the executive director of the Miami Planetarium, and he is in our Miami bureau this morning.

Hey, Jack. Good morning. Nice to see you.

JACK HORKHEIMER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MIAMI PLANETARIUM: Good morning.

O'BRIEN: You know, big problems for the rover this morning, so why don't we start there? Exactly how likely is it that this big communications issue is going to be something that can be fixed?

HORKHEIMER: Well, you know, in practically in all of the space vehicles we have ever sent out, we've always had glitches along the way. With Voyager we had several glitches and had problems with it for several weeks.

Anybody who has a computer at home can perhaps understand software problems. If this is a software problem, it probably can be fixed. If it's a hardware problem, that's another problem.

I facetiously said to a colleague of mine last night, perhaps the software got over-spammed on all of those ridiculous pop-up ads from Viagra. If such were the case, it can be fixed. So, let's hope the software can be reprogrammed and turned around.

O'BRIEN: The only problem with that analogy there is you know what? My computer at home doesn't cost $820 million.

HORKHEIMER: Well, that is correct. However, the software in all of these space vehicles has frequently had problems, and they get reprogrammed and reprogrammed. And hopefully by 12:00 noon today, we will know whether or not that this recent fix has taken. And if it hasn't, they'll keep working on it.

I'm hoping it is software, like so many other problems and so many glitches that occur with these spacecraft. The only thing that could be seriously wrong -- that I hope it isn't -- is a hardware problem, because you know, when the hard drive in your home computer goes out, then you've got to really take it in to the dealer. And we can't do that when something is 115 million miles away.

O'BRIEN: Nineteen days in to the mission, a three-month long mission. How big of a setback is it at this point for NASA? Maybe it's really too early to say, because the vote is not in on whether it's fixable or not. But if it's not fixable, how much of a big problem -- how much of a big problem is this for NASA?

HORKHEIMER: Well, it would be a problem if it's not fixable, except that there -- the wonderful thing about our space program is the redundancy factors. We can look at the landing. You know, we have opportunity landing late Saturday, early Sunday. It's an identical package to this one. So, there's redundancy right there. Of course, it's landing in a different spot.

But redundancy factoring in all space vehicles is phenomenal. There are many backup systems that are used, and when one fails another one comes in to play. When another one fails, it comes in to play.

And these robots frequently are able to repair themselves by being given the right instructions from earth. It just takes time. I'm very hopeful, Soledad, that this is going to work. I've got my fingers crossed, and I've got my toes crossed, and I have a lot of faith in this whole program.

O'BRIEN: I bet, and everybody at NASA is right there with you, Jack. All right, Jack Horkheimer with us this morning from the Miami Planetarium. Thanks for being with us, Jack.

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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: A plea deal apparently in the works between prosecutors and attorneys in the Rush Limbaugh drug case, according to newly-released court documents, and in those documents, obtained by a Florida newspaper, confirming what CNN was reporting about a month ago. The deal fell through for unknown reasons.

Prosecutors want to know if the conservative talk show radio host obtained prescription painkillers illegally.

Susan Candiotti is tracking the story from Miami today.

Susan -- good morning there.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Bill.

Yes, all of this apparently started to happen -- that is, communications between Rush Limbaugh's lawyer, Roy Black, a very prominent criminal defense attorney, and the Palm Beach County state attorney's office -- just last month, talking about how this investigation could be handled so that the whole matter could be put to rest; that is to say whether Rush Limbaugh might have illegally obtained legal prescription painkillers.

Well, because of a public records request, we were able to get our hands on, as well as the Fort Lauderdale "Sun-Sentinel" newspaper, a letter -- a letter that states back on December the 11th, written from Roy Black to the state attorney's office, asking for a pretrial intervention in which case there would be -- charges would be dropped, and there would be called null process.

And he says: "I believe this proposal would be in keeping with the public interest. The public is better served by treating addicts as patients rather than criminals."

In other words, Rush Limbaugh would enter a drug treatment program, and then that would be the end of that.

However, the Palm Beach County state attorney's office said that would not be acceptable. And in a letter dated December 15 offered this as a counterproposal: Rush Limbaugh would have to admit to a doctor shopping charge. He would then be offered three years of probation. He would have to complete a drug treatment program. He would have to complete random drug tests and as well as community service. That deal was rejected by attorneys representing Rush Limbaugh.

Now, what's particularly interesting about all of this is that we were able to see these communications through Florida's very liberal public records request law.

Now, consequently, some criminal defense attorneys throughout the state and elsewhere are worrying about this having a possible chilling effect about putting negotiations like this in writing. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KENDALL COFFEY, FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY: In effect, someone is going to be left doing it all verbally. And for obvious reasons, when you are in serious negotiation, it's very, very much preferred to be able to get some things in writing so there's no misunderstanding about what's being discussed.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CANDIOTTI: It's important to point out that this is an ongoing investigation, that Rush Limbaugh has not been charged with anything, and that the Palm Beach County state attorney's office says he is presumed innocent at this time.

And finally, Bill, you might recall that there's also an appeal going on right now. It is to say, after the prosecutor seized Rush Limbaugh's medical records, and his lawyers are saying that that violated his right to privacy, a constitutional right to privacy, and there is currently a court case going on about that -- Bill.

HEMMER: Susan, thanks.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: A hearing is scheduled a few hours from now in the Scott Peterson murder case. The purpose of the session is to determine a court calendar. The case has certainly seen its share of shifting judges in just the last few days.

For an update, we go to Rusty Dornin now. She's in Modesto, California, for us.

Rusty -- good morning.

RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Soledad, as you know, the judge that was assigned to this case was disqualified yesterday. Prosecutors didn't have to have a reason to disqualify Judge Richard Arneson (ph), and they didn't give one.

The only thing they stated was -- and I quote -- "That he was prejudiced against the parties.

Now, each side gets one of these peremptory challenges, but this one really came as a surprise. This judge is known for running a very tight courtroom. He is 82 years old. He was appointed to the bench in 1963. But he does show a lot of empathy towards defendants. That might have had something to do with it -- a lot of compassion. He's known for being very, very polite to them, often telling them "Good luck." In fact, there is one story where he actually bought a defendant some shaving cream because he wasn't able to shave, and allowed him to use his personal bathroom.

Now, this disqualification does do one thing, and that is it's going to delay this trial. The office of -- the administrative office of court said that it's going to take until next week to appoint another judge. Now, that does work in the prosecutor's favor, because they were asking for a two-week delay in this case in light of the change of venue, so they could move over to Redwood City, which is about an hour and a half from Modesto, and get things settled.

Now, today is a status hearing, and it was supposed to talk about really when things were going to get rolling in this case. It's expected to be a very short hearing in light of the fact that they don't have a judge -- Soledad.

O'BRIEN: Rusty Dornin for us this morning from Modesto, California. Rusty, thanks.

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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: There is word this morning that some Halliburton employees took huge kickbacks for giving a contract to a Kuwaiti company.

Let's get the story now from Andy Serwer who is "Minding Your Business."

Good morning.

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Good morning.

Yes, some interesting stuff coming out of the Middle East. According to published reports, Halliburton has told the Pentagon that two employees received kickbacks of up to $6 million for awarding Kuwaiti companies contracts to do business with the U.S. government.

Of course, this raises the level of scrutiny on this company again, because, of course, they were recently involved in charges that they over-billed the U.S. government for gasoline.

The company points out that it made the disclosures itself, and that the employees have been fired. Of course, it's not good stuff for the administration, because Vice President Dick Cheney, of course, was the former CEO of that company.

So, it's a scandal I think that just sort of keeps on going.

O'BRIEN: And certainly in a political year, an important political year, you've got to imagine that lots of people are going to be digging on this story.

SERWER: Hay will be made, yes.

O'BRIEN: Hay will be made.

SERWER: Yes, yes.

O'BRIEN: Let's talk about the market.

SERWER: Yes, futures have turned around this morning. It looks like we are going to have a higher open. And we talked about Microsoft possibly being actively traded this morning because of earnings last night.

Also, another bank merger, not quite as big as the one earlier recently, but we've got one here between Regents Financial out of Birmingham and Union Planners in Memphis, Tennessee, a $6 billion deal. So, those stocks will be moving as well.

O'BRIEN: All right, Andy, thank you.

SERWER: You're welcome.

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