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The Race for the White House

Aired February 10, 2004 - 05:24   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: We must talk about the race for the White House.
CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right.

COSTELLO: Because there are stops in Virginia and Tennessee today. Polls show...

MYERS: Guess what? Right there, Virginia, Carol.

COSTELLO: Oh, yes. They go out to the polls.

So tell us what the weather is while we get Jimmy Barrett of radio station WRVA in Richmond on phone.

MYERS: Very decent.

COSTELLO: Jimmy Barrett, are you there?

JIMMY BARRETT, WRVA MORNING SHOW: But first, let's check in with CNN.

Good morning, Carol Costello.

MYERS: See how he can do that.

COSTELLO: It's amazing.

MYERS: He's so good at that.

COSTELLO: He is so good.

MYERS: Good morning, Jimmy.

BARRETT: You know, when you call me, I just stop doing whatever I'm doing because I'm just fixated on talking to you, Carol. You know, I secretly have a thing for you.

MYERS: Yes, he does.

COSTELLO: Oh, I love that. See, I'm old enough to appreciate that now.

Chad Myers is with us, too, Jimmy Barrett, and he's going to give your listeners and our viewers just a preview of the weather in Virginia. MYERS: Yes. Actually, exceptional, temperatures in the 40s and 50s. We had a little bit of rain move through yesterday, but it's going to be dry today. Nobody complaining about we can't get the voters out today because it's too warm, too cold, too wet, too hot, whatever. It should be pretty good.

COSTELLO: Yes, Jimmy, you know, Virginia's kind of a funny state because it's not a true Southern...

BARRETT: Hey, what do you mean by that?

COSTELLO: I don't mean that in the negative way.

BARRETT: What do you mean by that? What do you mean we're a funny state?

COSTELLO: Well, you know, northern Virginia is way different from southern Virginia.

MYERS: Oh, sure.

BARRETT: You know, it really is. Northern Virginia, as you know, is much more like, dare I say it, the North. From Richmond on down, this really is the South. And, of course, southwest Virginia and south side Virginia are much different than Richmond is. So you're, I mean you're right. The Tidewater area, it's all a little bit different from one another.

COSTELLO: Oh, definitely so. And that's probably why Dean and Clark are down there campaigning instead of in northern Virginia.

BARRETT: Well, I haven't seen -- have you seen Howard Dean? Where's Howard Dean?

COSTELLO: Oh, I'm sorry. Not Howard Dean.

BARRETT: I have, I have had, we've had Senator...

COSTELLO: He's on to Wisconsin, actually.

MYERS: Yes.

BARRETT: I think he gave up on Virginia. Senator John Kerry, he's been around. Senator Edwards, we've had him on the program. We're due to have General Wes Clark on today. We had Reverend Al Sharpton on. We have seen everybody around here with the possible exception of Howard Dean.

COSTELLO: Well, Kerry is way leading in the polls. Why do you think that is?

BARRETT: You know, that's a great question. I think everybody loves a winner, when you get right down to it. You know, our governor, Mark Warner, jumped on the bandwagon. He wasn't going to endorse -- I don't think he really was going to endorse anybody because he really wanted to endorse somebody. He just waited until the front runner was declared front runner, and that's Senator John Kerry, and then he hopped in and took the photo opportunity and gave the endorsement.

MYERS: So...

COSTELLO: Well, wouldn't you say he was smarter than Al Gore?

BARRETT: I would think so. Yes. I mean here's the thing. Mark Warner, the governor of Virginia, is about the most conservative fiscal Democrat I've ever met. And he is trying to sell, I think, Virginians now that Senator John Kerry is also a fiscal conservative and we need to send him to the White House to fix the budget mess at the White House. I don't know how many Virginians are going to buy that.

COSTELLO: That's interesting. So, if Kerry wins the State of Virginia, as he is expected to, does this really say anything about the power he can amass in Southern states?

BARRETT: Well, it does say that he can carry a Southern state, definitely, although this is not like trying to carry Alabama or Mississippi or North Carolina or South Carolina, for that matter. Although, you know, I think despite what the polls say, I think John Edwards will have a fairly strong finish here. We did our own little, you know, poll here that really is not scientific by any stretch of the imagination, and Senator John Edwards won our poll. So I think he's going to place a very strong second.

MYERS: Hey...

COSTELLO: Well, you know, and he has a tendency to pull it out at the end. I mean he seems to be lagging in the polls then all of a sudden he does better than is expected.

BARRETT: What'll be interesting to me is how General Wesley Clark does, because, you know, there's a huge military presence here in Virginia and Wes Clark's message has been very clear, pretty much against the way the Bush administration has handled this war. And I'm not quite sure how military families herein Virginia have been reacting to his message.

But the poll numbers would seem to indicate to me that they have not been acting very positively towards his message.

MYERS: Hey, Jimmy, if the poll, if this primary was three weeks ago, would the outcome have been different?

BARRETT: I don't necessarily think so. Are you talking, if you're talking about the Howard Dean factor...

MYERS: Yes.

BARRETT: I think the only thing Virginians would have to say about that is that was not a real rebel yell. You want to know what a real rebel yell is, come to Richmond. We'll show you what a real rebel yell is. MYERS: Fair enough.

COSTELLO: Jimmy Barrett of radio station WRVA in Richmond joining us live on the phone.

We appreciate it.

And hello to all of your listeners, Jimmy.

MYERS: That's right.

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Aired February 10, 2004 - 05:24   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: We must talk about the race for the White House.
CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right.

COSTELLO: Because there are stops in Virginia and Tennessee today. Polls show...

MYERS: Guess what? Right there, Virginia, Carol.

COSTELLO: Oh, yes. They go out to the polls.

So tell us what the weather is while we get Jimmy Barrett of radio station WRVA in Richmond on phone.

MYERS: Very decent.

COSTELLO: Jimmy Barrett, are you there?

JIMMY BARRETT, WRVA MORNING SHOW: But first, let's check in with CNN.

Good morning, Carol Costello.

MYERS: See how he can do that.

COSTELLO: It's amazing.

MYERS: He's so good at that.

COSTELLO: He is so good.

MYERS: Good morning, Jimmy.

BARRETT: You know, when you call me, I just stop doing whatever I'm doing because I'm just fixated on talking to you, Carol. You know, I secretly have a thing for you.

MYERS: Yes, he does.

COSTELLO: Oh, I love that. See, I'm old enough to appreciate that now.

Chad Myers is with us, too, Jimmy Barrett, and he's going to give your listeners and our viewers just a preview of the weather in Virginia. MYERS: Yes. Actually, exceptional, temperatures in the 40s and 50s. We had a little bit of rain move through yesterday, but it's going to be dry today. Nobody complaining about we can't get the voters out today because it's too warm, too cold, too wet, too hot, whatever. It should be pretty good.

COSTELLO: Yes, Jimmy, you know, Virginia's kind of a funny state because it's not a true Southern...

BARRETT: Hey, what do you mean by that?

COSTELLO: I don't mean that in the negative way.

BARRETT: What do you mean by that? What do you mean we're a funny state?

COSTELLO: Well, you know, northern Virginia is way different from southern Virginia.

MYERS: Oh, sure.

BARRETT: You know, it really is. Northern Virginia, as you know, is much more like, dare I say it, the North. From Richmond on down, this really is the South. And, of course, southwest Virginia and south side Virginia are much different than Richmond is. So you're, I mean you're right. The Tidewater area, it's all a little bit different from one another.

COSTELLO: Oh, definitely so. And that's probably why Dean and Clark are down there campaigning instead of in northern Virginia.

BARRETT: Well, I haven't seen -- have you seen Howard Dean? Where's Howard Dean?

COSTELLO: Oh, I'm sorry. Not Howard Dean.

BARRETT: I have, I have had, we've had Senator...

COSTELLO: He's on to Wisconsin, actually.

MYERS: Yes.

BARRETT: I think he gave up on Virginia. Senator John Kerry, he's been around. Senator Edwards, we've had him on the program. We're due to have General Wes Clark on today. We had Reverend Al Sharpton on. We have seen everybody around here with the possible exception of Howard Dean.

COSTELLO: Well, Kerry is way leading in the polls. Why do you think that is?

BARRETT: You know, that's a great question. I think everybody loves a winner, when you get right down to it. You know, our governor, Mark Warner, jumped on the bandwagon. He wasn't going to endorse -- I don't think he really was going to endorse anybody because he really wanted to endorse somebody. He just waited until the front runner was declared front runner, and that's Senator John Kerry, and then he hopped in and took the photo opportunity and gave the endorsement.

MYERS: So...

COSTELLO: Well, wouldn't you say he was smarter than Al Gore?

BARRETT: I would think so. Yes. I mean here's the thing. Mark Warner, the governor of Virginia, is about the most conservative fiscal Democrat I've ever met. And he is trying to sell, I think, Virginians now that Senator John Kerry is also a fiscal conservative and we need to send him to the White House to fix the budget mess at the White House. I don't know how many Virginians are going to buy that.

COSTELLO: That's interesting. So, if Kerry wins the State of Virginia, as he is expected to, does this really say anything about the power he can amass in Southern states?

BARRETT: Well, it does say that he can carry a Southern state, definitely, although this is not like trying to carry Alabama or Mississippi or North Carolina or South Carolina, for that matter. Although, you know, I think despite what the polls say, I think John Edwards will have a fairly strong finish here. We did our own little, you know, poll here that really is not scientific by any stretch of the imagination, and Senator John Edwards won our poll. So I think he's going to place a very strong second.

MYERS: Hey...

COSTELLO: Well, you know, and he has a tendency to pull it out at the end. I mean he seems to be lagging in the polls then all of a sudden he does better than is expected.

BARRETT: What'll be interesting to me is how General Wesley Clark does, because, you know, there's a huge military presence here in Virginia and Wes Clark's message has been very clear, pretty much against the way the Bush administration has handled this war. And I'm not quite sure how military families herein Virginia have been reacting to his message.

But the poll numbers would seem to indicate to me that they have not been acting very positively towards his message.

MYERS: Hey, Jimmy, if the poll, if this primary was three weeks ago, would the outcome have been different?

BARRETT: I don't necessarily think so. Are you talking, if you're talking about the Howard Dean factor...

MYERS: Yes.

BARRETT: I think the only thing Virginians would have to say about that is that was not a real rebel yell. You want to know what a real rebel yell is, come to Richmond. We'll show you what a real rebel yell is. MYERS: Fair enough.

COSTELLO: Jimmy Barrett of radio station WRVA in Richmond joining us live on the phone.

We appreciate it.

And hello to all of your listeners, Jimmy.

MYERS: That's right.

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