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Aired March 04, 2004 - 11:30 ET
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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: After convicting a woman who stabbed her husband nearly 200 times, a Texas jury must now decide her sentence. Lawyers for Susan Wright claimed her husband was abusive, and she killed him in self-defense. Jurors didn't buy that one. The most severe penalty that could be imposed would be a life in prison sentence.
There's word that UPN may halt plans for a television show called "Amish in the City," after critic called the idea as insensitive. The plan was supposed to show Amish teens faced with temptations of urban life.
President Bush is wrapping up a two-day campaign swing through California today, and Mr. Bush is taking to the airwaves in his battle with his Democratic rival, Senator John Kerry.
Our White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux join us with details.
Suzanne, good morning.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Daryn.
They're actually just blitzing the air waves, anywhere from $5 million to $10 million worth of these ads that are being aired on at least 16 of those battleground states, key to a President Bush win, of course.
President Bush in California for two days, and that is really where he is jumpstarting his campaign, also jumpstarting those attacks against his opponent, Senator Kerry. It was last night at a fund- raiser in Los Angeles he mentioned Kerry by name for the first time, portrayed Kerry as a waffler, one who is weak on national security, aimed at expanding the federal government, and also undoing the progress on the economy, he says, by raising taxes.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He spent two decades in Congress. He's build up quite a record. In fact, Senator Kerry's been in Washington long enough to take both sides on just about every issue.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MALVEAUX: So somewhat of a dig there, Daryn. This is just the beginning, of course. President Bush in California. This afternoon he'll be in Bakersfield. That is where he'll be addressing a small group of people who are part of a small business. And they say that, of course, his tax relief really has helped promote those type of businesses specifically, and that it will help create jobs and build the economy. This is really the 11th time that the president has visited California. As you know, he lost by 11 percentage points to Gore in 2000. Republican aides say it will be difficult to win this state. It's a very valuable state for the president, but they want to be competitive, so you can expect that he'll have a number of visits in the future as well -- Daryn.
KAGAN: And the more time he spends in California, the more money and time it forces the Democrats to match him there.
Question for you, Suzanne, is there going to be a moment where the president officially kicks off his campaign before the convention this summer, or is he just going to ease into it and launch it like he is right now?
MALVEAUX: It certainly seems like -- he didn't ease it into last night. It seems like he went full force ahead when he started going down the line about all of the different things that he -- sets him apart from Senator Kerry. We're seeing right now these positive ads that are coming out.
But expect in three weeks or so, we're told there will be a second set of ads, not only in English, in Spanish, what the Bush administration calls his contrast ads. Some would see them as quite negative, but they set up the scenario, comparing Kerry as opposed to the president. The bottom line, they believe, here is that Kerry is the one, that he's been strong in leadership, and they argue that -- rather, Bush is, and that Senator Kerry is the one who is weak when it comes to security, as well as the economy.
KAGAN: Suzanne Malveaux at the White. Suzanne, thank you for you that.
The president's all but certain November opponent is taking a quick break from the campaign trail.
Judy Woodruff join us from Washington. She has more on Democrat John Kerry and the morning's other political headlines. Judy, good morning.
JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN ANCHOR: Hi there, Daryn.
Well, Senator Kerry is spending this day at home in Boston, but that doesn't mean he is taking it easy, we're told. One item at the top of his agenda, raising money. The Bush/Cheney campaign has about $100 million more than Kerry does. The first Republican TV ad, as you've just been discussing, hits the airwaves today. Yesterday, Senator Kerry tried a new line of criticism against the president, arguing that even Republicans should be unhappy with the president's policies.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There's nothing conservative or mainstream Republican about what George Bush is doing with the deficits of this country. There's nothing conservative or mainstream Republican about letting your attorney general abuse civil rights.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WOODRUFF: Another item on John Kerry's to-do list is selecting a runningmate. Now some Democrats are suggesting the name of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. CNN's Lou Dobbs asked the senator if she was open to the idea.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D), NEW YORK: That is totally up to the nominee. I don't think I would ever be offered. I don't think I would accept. Obviously, I want to do everything I can to see John Kerry elected president.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WOODRUFF: Senator Clinton went on to say she thinks she can be helpful in her role as a senator by helping people focus on Senator Kerry's strength, and what she calls, the weaknesses of the opposition.
The president's new campaign ads are angering some families of victims of 9/11, and some firefighters. But the Bush campaign is defending the ads. We'll explore the fallout from all of this later today. And we'll also look at how the same-sex marriage issue may affect the race for the White House.
Those topics and more when I go "INSIDE POLITICS" at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. But right now, let's go back to Daryn.
KAGAN: All right, Judy, look forward to seeing you later today.
Political satirist Bill Maher says that John Kerry is more vulnerable to Republican attacks now that the Democratic race is over. Maher was a guest on CNN's "LARRY KING LIVE" last night.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BILL MAHER: I think John Kerry probably would have actually liked it better if John Edwards had been in it for a longer time, because this way, you know, it's all about him now. He's walking point, as he might say, about his Vietnam service. And the Republican slime machine, of course, will be getting busy. I'm sure there will be pictures of him tomorrow on a chopper with Peter Fonda, going to New Orleans to sell acid.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: Tongue in cheek, Bill Maher, of course, trying to be funny there. Tonight, what's on board for Larry, none other than Katie Couric. She will be there, 9:00 p.m. Eastern, 6:00 p.m. Pacific.
Some good news, OK news for Michael Eisner. He gets to keep his job as Disney's CEO. But as chairman of the board, he is out. That job now going to former Senator George Mitchell. Mitchell got the nod during a contentious shareholder meeting yesterday in Philadelphia.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MICHAEL EISNER, DISNEY, CEO: Certainly there must have been people out there unsatisfied with our performance post-9/11 and the wars in Iraq. Our tourism dropped during that period. And the messages that we're getting from that kind of vote are multiple. And they're about corporate America. They're about messages to other corporations and they're. obviously, certain people that are not happy with me personally, I guess.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: Forty-three percent of the shareholders at the meeting opposed Eisner's re-election to the board.
Get ready now for some sticker shock. Nothing ticks people off more than gas prices. They are approaching, ready for this, $3 a gallon at some isolated spots around California today.
Our J.J. Ramberg is in Los Angeles, pumping some gas.
Good morning, J.J.
J.J. RAMBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Daryn.
I'm at the CostCo here in Marina Del Ray. And this has one of the cheapest prices in all of the neighborhood, and still it's $2.11 a gallon. Quite high. I spoke to some experts yesterday, and they said when the price gets up to about $1.60, people start raising their eyebrows, start thinking about how they're budgeting their household income. And we're clearly way above that here. And it's not just here in California, it's all over the country.
Taking a looking at some other cities here. Las Vegas, it's nearly $2.10. In New York, it's almost $1.90. Chicago, it's almost $1.80. In Washington D.C., it's $1.70. And the nationwide average right now is $1.71, which is only 3 cents lower than the all-time high we saw last august of $1.74.
Now, why is this happening? It's primarily because there's been an increase in crude oil prices across world, and that accounts for about 50 percent of what we pay here at the pump for our gas.
Now, I talked to some people from AAA yesterday and said, the prices are so high, what can we as consumers do to try and keep our costs down?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUSTIN MCNAULL, AAA: You wouldn't expect that prices will continue to hold at this level until we head into summer. You'd expect to see some kind of a drop-off, or a dip or a return or something closer to normal. Just because, across the years, we haven't seen crude oil prices get up to this $36, $37 a barrel level and hold for an extended period of time.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RAMBERG: There's some other advice that they gave us as well. They said keep your tires properly inflated. Also, keep your engine maintained, so go get that tune-up. Don't carry any excess weight in your car. So if it's -- there's snow on the ground and you've got your golf clubs in the back of the car, take them out. And then finally, link your errands together, so you go out once to do all of your errands. Doing all these things could save you about 10 percent at the pump, because you'll use less gas -- Daryn.
KAGAN: Not to mention public transportation, but that's a story for another day.
J.J. Ramberg, thank you for that.
KAGAN: Well, it can cost you your good health, but can being overweight also cost you more money? The results of a new study next in your Daily Dose of health news.
And months of after the fall of Saddam, Iraq's health care system continues to suffer. Dr. Sanjay Gupta join us. He will be taking a look at the health care system in Baghdad.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: More pounds may mean less pay for some women. That's the conclusion of a study by researchers in Finland. They found obese women who are highly educated earn about 30 percent less than normal weight or even plump women. The results did not hold true for poorly educated women, manual workers or women who were self-employed. And obesity did not appear to impact men's salaries.
Decades of war and neglect have left Iraq's health care system in critical condition. In our "Daily Dose" of health news, our medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta returns to Iraq to examine the problem and the progress toward improvement.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This hospital in Baghdad specializes in pediatric care. It's not enough, though, to meet the challenges. And according to the Iraqi minister of health, 1 in 10 infants will die before they are a year old.
Antibiotics that save lives and costs just pennies in the United States are in short supply. These women, for example, are at risk of dying from routine infections. Sadly, the Iraqi health system that 30 years ago was the finest in the Middle East needs more than a financial band-aid. It needs to be completely overhauled.
TOMMY THOMPSON, HHS SECRETARY: What we're going to do as a department is to collaborate and to cooperate and to partnership with the people in Iraq to rebuild that medical system back to what it was in the 1970s.
GUPTA (on camera): Without question, Iraq's health system has faltered. Some believe because of a cruel dictator who made his people pay for the embargoes placed on his country. Others believe three wars and 20 years were more to blame.
(voice-over): To be sure, best estimates say Iraq spent around $20 million on health care in 2002. That's about 68 cents per person. This year, the expenditure will be close to 900 million, or about $40 per person -- most of that money from oil revenues. For reference, in the U.S., around $4,000 is spent per person by the government.
Starting from scratch will not be easy, but both Americans and Iraqis agree that is what needs to be done. For too long, little or no money was spent on the infrastructure needed to provide basic care and prevent disease; $900 million may change that slowly.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Baghdad.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: For your "Daily Dose" of health news online, check out our Web site. The address is cnn.com/health.
More than 40 years ago, she pioneered primate research and she became a household name in the process. Now she goes back to where it all started, back into the wild. When we return, a special guest, Jane Goodall, joins us live.
But first, today's "Adventure on the Edge."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
AD ANNOUNCER: Africa is probably the last place you think of for a ski trip. But for two adventurers the perfect place to take on the glaciers that top Mount Kenya.
In the heart of Kenya, and just nine miles north of the equator, the extinct volcano rises to 17,000 feet above the landscape. Topped with snow and ice, it is Africa's second highest peak. But getting to the summit is no easy task.
The travelers endured rough rides on muddy roads, traversed agricultural highlands and rain forests, and hiked and climbed in an ever-changing landscape, from lush jungles to volcanic remains.
The beauty of the African terrain was almost reward enough. Then, finally, they hit snow. And though it took days to get there and only minutes to come down it wasn't the destination that mattered, but the journey. And Africa in all its diverse glory had never looked so beautiful as it did from a pair of skis.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: How can you not know that face? Jane Goodall's return to Gombe is documented in an Animal Planet special. It's coming up on Monday. The famed primatologist goes back to Tanzania, where she began her work with chimps in east Africa some 40 years ago. Jane Goodall finds big changes when she checks in on her primate family. She has stepped away from the busy lecture circuit to join us for just a few moments here this morning.
Jane Goodall, our guest. Good morning. Thanks for being with us.
JANE GOODALL, PRIMATOLOGIST: Good morning. Thanks for inviting me.
KAGAN: What do you find when you go back some 40 years after you started doing your work there in east Africa?
GOODALL: Well, I suppose one of the fascinating things is that I meet Fee Fee, who was a little infant when I began in 1960, and she's about 45, 46 now, with her own amazing family. And you know, I re- meet all these individuals whose life histories we followed and studied, and it's a very wonderful feeling to go back.
KAGAN: Well, we have followed them and these families through you. Those of us that remember will remember there was this family of 'f' chimps, because there was so many 'f' names. Can you tell us what happened to some of the other chimps as well?
GOODALL: Well, my favorite living chimpanzee today I think is Gremlin. She's daughter of Melissa, and she's mother of twins, the only twins that have survived in 43 years. We've had twins before, but they haven't lived. And so she's a very intelligent, she's very gentle, she's a wonderful mother, and she has a great family.
KAGAN: But what about the environment that these chimps face? That has not gone well over the last 40 years, has it?
GOODALL: No, the actual park itself is as it was, but it's so small. And the terrible truth is that around this 30-square mile park, all the trees have gone. The chimpanzees who were living there have also gone. Some of the chimps even in the park have been poached, because refugees have come over from troubled Congo, come over the lake, and settled around the hills.
But fortunately, by working with the people in 22 villages around Gombe and around the lake, we have a program called Take Care, which is making the people understand that we want to improve their lives, we are improving their lives in many ways, so now they're allowing some of the trees to grow back, so that we hope to get beefy corridors, and the chimps of Gombe can once again interact with other remnant groups around the park.
KAGAN: When I was growing up watching your programs -- it's hard to believe that I'm reading -- you're almost 70 years old now. You look exact likely you did back in the day, as we say here in Atlanta. You still travel around the world 300 days a year, you still lecture, you're still pushing this cause. When you see what's happening to the chimps environment, and the battles that they face and the great apes, do you get discouraged?
GOODALL: Well, sometimes it's very depressing. And if we're realistic, we know this is going to continue in some area. But what we can do, what we will do, is to protect some areas of forest, to protect the chimpanzees, gorillas, and other beings living in these forests, and the people, too. And this is the Congo Basin Forest Partnership, which is enabling new life and new hope to be brought into those NGOs struggling on the ground to conserve what's left. And a lot is still left, and there is still hope.
KAGAN: And you will continue to spread the word. Such incredible work, such an incredible life.
Jane Goodall, thank you for your time, ma'am, this morning. Great to have you here with us. Once again, the special is on Monday on Animal Planet, 8:00 p.m. Eastern, "Return to Gombe, with Jane Goodall."
Business and weather is up next, and we'll be right back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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KAGAN: That's going to do it for me, Daryn Kagan. I'll see you right here tomorrow morning.
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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: After convicting a woman who stabbed her husband nearly 200 times, a Texas jury must now decide her sentence. Lawyers for Susan Wright claimed her husband was abusive, and she killed him in self-defense. Jurors didn't buy that one. The most severe penalty that could be imposed would be a life in prison sentence.
There's word that UPN may halt plans for a television show called "Amish in the City," after critic called the idea as insensitive. The plan was supposed to show Amish teens faced with temptations of urban life.
President Bush is wrapping up a two-day campaign swing through California today, and Mr. Bush is taking to the airwaves in his battle with his Democratic rival, Senator John Kerry.
Our White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux join us with details.
Suzanne, good morning.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Daryn.
They're actually just blitzing the air waves, anywhere from $5 million to $10 million worth of these ads that are being aired on at least 16 of those battleground states, key to a President Bush win, of course.
President Bush in California for two days, and that is really where he is jumpstarting his campaign, also jumpstarting those attacks against his opponent, Senator Kerry. It was last night at a fund- raiser in Los Angeles he mentioned Kerry by name for the first time, portrayed Kerry as a waffler, one who is weak on national security, aimed at expanding the federal government, and also undoing the progress on the economy, he says, by raising taxes.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: He spent two decades in Congress. He's build up quite a record. In fact, Senator Kerry's been in Washington long enough to take both sides on just about every issue.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MALVEAUX: So somewhat of a dig there, Daryn. This is just the beginning, of course. President Bush in California. This afternoon he'll be in Bakersfield. That is where he'll be addressing a small group of people who are part of a small business. And they say that, of course, his tax relief really has helped promote those type of businesses specifically, and that it will help create jobs and build the economy. This is really the 11th time that the president has visited California. As you know, he lost by 11 percentage points to Gore in 2000. Republican aides say it will be difficult to win this state. It's a very valuable state for the president, but they want to be competitive, so you can expect that he'll have a number of visits in the future as well -- Daryn.
KAGAN: And the more time he spends in California, the more money and time it forces the Democrats to match him there.
Question for you, Suzanne, is there going to be a moment where the president officially kicks off his campaign before the convention this summer, or is he just going to ease into it and launch it like he is right now?
MALVEAUX: It certainly seems like -- he didn't ease it into last night. It seems like he went full force ahead when he started going down the line about all of the different things that he -- sets him apart from Senator Kerry. We're seeing right now these positive ads that are coming out.
But expect in three weeks or so, we're told there will be a second set of ads, not only in English, in Spanish, what the Bush administration calls his contrast ads. Some would see them as quite negative, but they set up the scenario, comparing Kerry as opposed to the president. The bottom line, they believe, here is that Kerry is the one, that he's been strong in leadership, and they argue that -- rather, Bush is, and that Senator Kerry is the one who is weak when it comes to security, as well as the economy.
KAGAN: Suzanne Malveaux at the White. Suzanne, thank you for you that.
The president's all but certain November opponent is taking a quick break from the campaign trail.
Judy Woodruff join us from Washington. She has more on Democrat John Kerry and the morning's other political headlines. Judy, good morning.
JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN ANCHOR: Hi there, Daryn.
Well, Senator Kerry is spending this day at home in Boston, but that doesn't mean he is taking it easy, we're told. One item at the top of his agenda, raising money. The Bush/Cheney campaign has about $100 million more than Kerry does. The first Republican TV ad, as you've just been discussing, hits the airwaves today. Yesterday, Senator Kerry tried a new line of criticism against the president, arguing that even Republicans should be unhappy with the president's policies.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There's nothing conservative or mainstream Republican about what George Bush is doing with the deficits of this country. There's nothing conservative or mainstream Republican about letting your attorney general abuse civil rights.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WOODRUFF: Another item on John Kerry's to-do list is selecting a runningmate. Now some Democrats are suggesting the name of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. CNN's Lou Dobbs asked the senator if she was open to the idea.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D), NEW YORK: That is totally up to the nominee. I don't think I would ever be offered. I don't think I would accept. Obviously, I want to do everything I can to see John Kerry elected president.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WOODRUFF: Senator Clinton went on to say she thinks she can be helpful in her role as a senator by helping people focus on Senator Kerry's strength, and what she calls, the weaknesses of the opposition.
The president's new campaign ads are angering some families of victims of 9/11, and some firefighters. But the Bush campaign is defending the ads. We'll explore the fallout from all of this later today. And we'll also look at how the same-sex marriage issue may affect the race for the White House.
Those topics and more when I go "INSIDE POLITICS" at 3:30 p.m. Eastern. But right now, let's go back to Daryn.
KAGAN: All right, Judy, look forward to seeing you later today.
Political satirist Bill Maher says that John Kerry is more vulnerable to Republican attacks now that the Democratic race is over. Maher was a guest on CNN's "LARRY KING LIVE" last night.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BILL MAHER: I think John Kerry probably would have actually liked it better if John Edwards had been in it for a longer time, because this way, you know, it's all about him now. He's walking point, as he might say, about his Vietnam service. And the Republican slime machine, of course, will be getting busy. I'm sure there will be pictures of him tomorrow on a chopper with Peter Fonda, going to New Orleans to sell acid.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: Tongue in cheek, Bill Maher, of course, trying to be funny there. Tonight, what's on board for Larry, none other than Katie Couric. She will be there, 9:00 p.m. Eastern, 6:00 p.m. Pacific.
Some good news, OK news for Michael Eisner. He gets to keep his job as Disney's CEO. But as chairman of the board, he is out. That job now going to former Senator George Mitchell. Mitchell got the nod during a contentious shareholder meeting yesterday in Philadelphia.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MICHAEL EISNER, DISNEY, CEO: Certainly there must have been people out there unsatisfied with our performance post-9/11 and the wars in Iraq. Our tourism dropped during that period. And the messages that we're getting from that kind of vote are multiple. And they're about corporate America. They're about messages to other corporations and they're. obviously, certain people that are not happy with me personally, I guess.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KAGAN: Forty-three percent of the shareholders at the meeting opposed Eisner's re-election to the board.
Get ready now for some sticker shock. Nothing ticks people off more than gas prices. They are approaching, ready for this, $3 a gallon at some isolated spots around California today.
Our J.J. Ramberg is in Los Angeles, pumping some gas.
Good morning, J.J.
J.J. RAMBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Daryn.
I'm at the CostCo here in Marina Del Ray. And this has one of the cheapest prices in all of the neighborhood, and still it's $2.11 a gallon. Quite high. I spoke to some experts yesterday, and they said when the price gets up to about $1.60, people start raising their eyebrows, start thinking about how they're budgeting their household income. And we're clearly way above that here. And it's not just here in California, it's all over the country.
Taking a looking at some other cities here. Las Vegas, it's nearly $2.10. In New York, it's almost $1.90. Chicago, it's almost $1.80. In Washington D.C., it's $1.70. And the nationwide average right now is $1.71, which is only 3 cents lower than the all-time high we saw last august of $1.74.
Now, why is this happening? It's primarily because there's been an increase in crude oil prices across world, and that accounts for about 50 percent of what we pay here at the pump for our gas.
Now, I talked to some people from AAA yesterday and said, the prices are so high, what can we as consumers do to try and keep our costs down?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JUSTIN MCNAULL, AAA: You wouldn't expect that prices will continue to hold at this level until we head into summer. You'd expect to see some kind of a drop-off, or a dip or a return or something closer to normal. Just because, across the years, we haven't seen crude oil prices get up to this $36, $37 a barrel level and hold for an extended period of time.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RAMBERG: There's some other advice that they gave us as well. They said keep your tires properly inflated. Also, keep your engine maintained, so go get that tune-up. Don't carry any excess weight in your car. So if it's -- there's snow on the ground and you've got your golf clubs in the back of the car, take them out. And then finally, link your errands together, so you go out once to do all of your errands. Doing all these things could save you about 10 percent at the pump, because you'll use less gas -- Daryn.
KAGAN: Not to mention public transportation, but that's a story for another day.
J.J. Ramberg, thank you for that.
KAGAN: Well, it can cost you your good health, but can being overweight also cost you more money? The results of a new study next in your Daily Dose of health news.
And months of after the fall of Saddam, Iraq's health care system continues to suffer. Dr. Sanjay Gupta join us. He will be taking a look at the health care system in Baghdad.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: More pounds may mean less pay for some women. That's the conclusion of a study by researchers in Finland. They found obese women who are highly educated earn about 30 percent less than normal weight or even plump women. The results did not hold true for poorly educated women, manual workers or women who were self-employed. And obesity did not appear to impact men's salaries.
Decades of war and neglect have left Iraq's health care system in critical condition. In our "Daily Dose" of health news, our medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta returns to Iraq to examine the problem and the progress toward improvement.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This hospital in Baghdad specializes in pediatric care. It's not enough, though, to meet the challenges. And according to the Iraqi minister of health, 1 in 10 infants will die before they are a year old.
Antibiotics that save lives and costs just pennies in the United States are in short supply. These women, for example, are at risk of dying from routine infections. Sadly, the Iraqi health system that 30 years ago was the finest in the Middle East needs more than a financial band-aid. It needs to be completely overhauled.
TOMMY THOMPSON, HHS SECRETARY: What we're going to do as a department is to collaborate and to cooperate and to partnership with the people in Iraq to rebuild that medical system back to what it was in the 1970s.
GUPTA (on camera): Without question, Iraq's health system has faltered. Some believe because of a cruel dictator who made his people pay for the embargoes placed on his country. Others believe three wars and 20 years were more to blame.
(voice-over): To be sure, best estimates say Iraq spent around $20 million on health care in 2002. That's about 68 cents per person. This year, the expenditure will be close to 900 million, or about $40 per person -- most of that money from oil revenues. For reference, in the U.S., around $4,000 is spent per person by the government.
Starting from scratch will not be easy, but both Americans and Iraqis agree that is what needs to be done. For too long, little or no money was spent on the infrastructure needed to provide basic care and prevent disease; $900 million may change that slowly.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Baghdad.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
KAGAN: For your "Daily Dose" of health news online, check out our Web site. The address is cnn.com/health.
More than 40 years ago, she pioneered primate research and she became a household name in the process. Now she goes back to where it all started, back into the wild. When we return, a special guest, Jane Goodall, joins us live.
But first, today's "Adventure on the Edge."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
AD ANNOUNCER: Africa is probably the last place you think of for a ski trip. But for two adventurers the perfect place to take on the glaciers that top Mount Kenya.
In the heart of Kenya, and just nine miles north of the equator, the extinct volcano rises to 17,000 feet above the landscape. Topped with snow and ice, it is Africa's second highest peak. But getting to the summit is no easy task.
The travelers endured rough rides on muddy roads, traversed agricultural highlands and rain forests, and hiked and climbed in an ever-changing landscape, from lush jungles to volcanic remains.
The beauty of the African terrain was almost reward enough. Then, finally, they hit snow. And though it took days to get there and only minutes to come down it wasn't the destination that mattered, but the journey. And Africa in all its diverse glory had never looked so beautiful as it did from a pair of skis.
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KAGAN: How can you not know that face? Jane Goodall's return to Gombe is documented in an Animal Planet special. It's coming up on Monday. The famed primatologist goes back to Tanzania, where she began her work with chimps in east Africa some 40 years ago. Jane Goodall finds big changes when she checks in on her primate family. She has stepped away from the busy lecture circuit to join us for just a few moments here this morning.
Jane Goodall, our guest. Good morning. Thanks for being with us.
JANE GOODALL, PRIMATOLOGIST: Good morning. Thanks for inviting me.
KAGAN: What do you find when you go back some 40 years after you started doing your work there in east Africa?
GOODALL: Well, I suppose one of the fascinating things is that I meet Fee Fee, who was a little infant when I began in 1960, and she's about 45, 46 now, with her own amazing family. And you know, I re- meet all these individuals whose life histories we followed and studied, and it's a very wonderful feeling to go back.
KAGAN: Well, we have followed them and these families through you. Those of us that remember will remember there was this family of 'f' chimps, because there was so many 'f' names. Can you tell us what happened to some of the other chimps as well?
GOODALL: Well, my favorite living chimpanzee today I think is Gremlin. She's daughter of Melissa, and she's mother of twins, the only twins that have survived in 43 years. We've had twins before, but they haven't lived. And so she's a very intelligent, she's very gentle, she's a wonderful mother, and she has a great family.
KAGAN: But what about the environment that these chimps face? That has not gone well over the last 40 years, has it?
GOODALL: No, the actual park itself is as it was, but it's so small. And the terrible truth is that around this 30-square mile park, all the trees have gone. The chimpanzees who were living there have also gone. Some of the chimps even in the park have been poached, because refugees have come over from troubled Congo, come over the lake, and settled around the hills.
But fortunately, by working with the people in 22 villages around Gombe and around the lake, we have a program called Take Care, which is making the people understand that we want to improve their lives, we are improving their lives in many ways, so now they're allowing some of the trees to grow back, so that we hope to get beefy corridors, and the chimps of Gombe can once again interact with other remnant groups around the park.
KAGAN: When I was growing up watching your programs -- it's hard to believe that I'm reading -- you're almost 70 years old now. You look exact likely you did back in the day, as we say here in Atlanta. You still travel around the world 300 days a year, you still lecture, you're still pushing this cause. When you see what's happening to the chimps environment, and the battles that they face and the great apes, do you get discouraged?
GOODALL: Well, sometimes it's very depressing. And if we're realistic, we know this is going to continue in some area. But what we can do, what we will do, is to protect some areas of forest, to protect the chimpanzees, gorillas, and other beings living in these forests, and the people, too. And this is the Congo Basin Forest Partnership, which is enabling new life and new hope to be brought into those NGOs struggling on the ground to conserve what's left. And a lot is still left, and there is still hope.
KAGAN: And you will continue to spread the word. Such incredible work, such an incredible life.
Jane Goodall, thank you for your time, ma'am, this morning. Great to have you here with us. Once again, the special is on Monday on Animal Planet, 8:00 p.m. Eastern, "Return to Gombe, with Jane Goodall."
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KAGAN: That's going to do it for me, Daryn Kagan. I'll see you right here tomorrow morning.
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