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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: CNN SUNDAY is ahead, but first these headlines. Russian president Vladamir Putin is claiming victory in the presidential election. More than 69 percent of the vote is counted. Putin, overwhelmingly, was re-elected. This was not a surprise. He's promising the economy and give the media more freedom.
In downtowm Moscow, investigators say 2 people are dead after a massive fire at an historic exhibition center near Red Square. More than 20 fire units responded. The fire probably started with an electric short circuit.
And U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft is getting some rest at home. He was discharged from George Washington University hospital today, five days after undergoing surgery to remove his gallbladder. The Justice Department says Deputy Attorney General James Comey will continue handling things until Ashcroft returns.
Good evening. I'm Carol Lin at the CNN center in Atlanta. Coming up this hour, another deadly blast in the Middle East. Two suicide bombers hit a strategic target in Israel.
The White House prepares to mark the one-year anniversary of the war in Iraq. National security moves to the top of the president's agenda. We're live with details.
And we'll sit down with baseball legend Dean Smith as march madness heats up with the NCAA basketball tournament.
We begin in Spain, though. The investigation into last week's blast has turned up another possible al Qaeda connection. The attack loomed large today as the country held a general election. CNN's Brent Sadler joins us now from Madrid. Any new developments there today?
BRENT SADLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Carol, yes, indeed. One of three Moroccans being held in custody after last Thursday's devastating bomb attacks against the rail commuter network here under suspicion. Before those blasts, not only here in Spain, but also in Morocco, suspicion that that Moroccan national may have been responsible or at least involved in suicide bombings of targets, Jewish and Spanish targets in Casablanca last may. So one important development there.
This coming at the same time as there has been a complete turnaround in events on the political scene here. Now, the end of election day here in Madrid and a stunning turnaround in event, the ruling Popular Party, the voters turned against the government of Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, a stone supporter of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq a year ago a year ago. A year ago when Spanish on the streets protested Spain's involvement in that war.
And it does seem that they are voting in the ballot boxes here today turned into a referendum on that Spanish policy to support U.S. efforts in Iraq not only in the invasion a year ago, but continuing support of coalition efforts on the ground in Iraq today with 1,300 Spanish troops serving in the U.S.-led coalition.
Now the new prime minister designate has said one of his top priorities will be to confront terror, but at the same time, he's also told electors before this ballotting day today, he would pull Spanish troops out of Iraq.
So a dramatic change in the events here. A sea change if you like, in politics on the ground here in Madrid. Back to you, Carol.
LIN: Thank you very much, Brent Sadler, with the latest on the ground in Madrid.
We're going to focus also on the aftermath of the attack. Eric Pape joins us now from Madrid. He is a special correspondent for "Newsweek" magazine. And we want to explore exactly what the impact of those attacks on the trains Thursday, as well as al Qaeda's claim of responsibility yesterday, what this all means to us here in the United States.
Eric, first and foremost, what -- what do you make of al Qaeda's claim yesterday that it was responsible for the attacks on the trains?
ERIC PAPE, "NEWSWEEK": It's hard to know at this point. At least the latest information I have, whether that is a valid claim, a number of people do have some serious doubts about it. And, also, they could -- al Qaeda could realistically take responsibility, even if they weren't involved in the attack. They would fit a number of their interests. So I think it should be looked at with a little bit of scrutiny.
LIN: How much do you think al Qaeda's videotape, which perhaps was even perhaps strategically released yesterday on the eve of the election there in Spain, how much of an impact do you think it had on the fall of the government there? Or the Popular Party, I should say?
PAPE: It was huge. I think, yes, I think there's no doubt this election was going towards the Popular Party. They had an almost certain victory ahead of them. The resentment that's come out in relation to the investigation and since the attack has clearly been the propelling force and is likely the force that created such a high turnout.
LIN: So, do you think it was the specific intent of the terrorists who planted the bombs to overturn the government?
PAPE: I think it's pretty difficult to know what someone who did an attack like this, what their motivations were unless they say them and even then it's worthy of scrutiny. Clearly, it seems to have been an attack on this government in the hopes of overturning it, and that part of the attack, I think is -- it's clear that they succeeded.
LIN: Exactly. I mean, the point is that it worked. Therefore, what does it mean for other supporters of the United States? For example, Great Britain, obviously a major ally in President Bush's effort to overturn Saddam Hussein.
PAPE: Oh, yes, absolutely. The international implications of this are huge on a number of levels. One of the levels, of course, being that the U.S. has lost maybe its staunchest ally in Europe. Tony Blair has clearly been strong behind the U.S. and has sent far more troops in Iraq, but he's also been more hesitant in a number of ways. He's been speaking more quietly.
Aznar has been an absolute advocate of the U.S. war in Iraq. I think the other question is whether the U.S. is going to see Spain pull its troops out of Iraq. That's the question after this election in international terms.
LIN: So, what are people telling you on the street there in Spain in terms of what should happen next?
PAPE: In what way? I'm sorry.
LIN: Well, in the sense that -- are they supporting the idea of pulling out Spanish troops? Is there more anti-American rhetoric on the streets, because it seems that fear is now driving the political decisions in that country just in the last 48 hours.
PAPE: I think that a big issue on the street here is not fear. I mean, the Aznar government has been absolute and adamant against terrorism from Eta and they've spoken very strongly against al Qaeda. But the fact is they were not able to prevent this attack from happening.
I think at times like this and with no attack before the actual election, it's natural a lot of people would say, we need a change. We need someone else who will do something. It remains to be seen if the socialists will be able to do anything, if this is al Qaeda. What will they be able to go against it? I don't know.
If it is Eta, I think they will also have to think of creative policies.
LIN: All right, thank you very much. Eric Pape with "Newsweek" magazine.
Also you can visit our Web site for in-depth coverage of the incident in Spain. Log on to cnn.com for a special report on the massacre in Madrid. You'll find the latest headlines photos and video.
Right now, we want to move on to other major news. In Israel, the country is on high alert after a deadly attack. Two suicide bombers blew themselves up today in the port city of Ashdod. They killed 11 people and wound more than 20. CNN's Chris Burns reports.
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CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The blasts happened within minutes of each other. The first in a citrus warehouse of Israel's southern port of Ashdod. As onlookers gathered across the street, a second weekend blast, shatter this office bungalow. It was the first time suicide bombers had attacked an economic target.
The militant groups Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, loosely linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah movment, jointly claimed the attack. They said the bombers came from the Gaza Strip.
If confirmed, it's the first time suicide bombers had crossed into Israel from Gaza, despite Israel's security fence around the territory. That could raise questions about the barrier Israel is building in the West Bank.
GIL KLEIMAN, ISRAELI POLICE SPOKESMAN: If after 3 1/2 years they succeeded one time, then I'd still that fence was very effective and very helpful.
BURNS (on camera): The Palestinian authority condemned the bombings, called for a cease fire and peace talks. The Israeli government put off efforts at arranging a first meeting between the Israeli and Palestinian prime ministers, citing this attack.
(voice-over): Meanwhile, in Gaza, a Palestinian judge has thrown out charges against four Palestinian militants held in last October's bombing of a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Gaza. A bombing that killed three U.S. security guards.
The judge cited a lack of evidence. Officials said Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat would have the final say in their release. U.S. officials demanded those guilty be convicted and punished. Chris Burns, CNN, Ashdod, Israel.
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LIN: Time for a look at some other news around the world. In Seoul, South Korea, tens of thousands of protesters turned out today for a demonstration to show their anger over the president's impeachment. South Korea's national assembly voted Friday to impeach the president after accusations of illegal campaigning and incompetence.
Former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is heading to Jamaica. He's currently in the Central African Republic, but is expected in Jamaica early next week to see his children. Jamaican officials have notified the U.S. of his impending trip. They say it won't last for more than eight to ten weeks, and he won't be seeking political asylum.
And in the Vatican Pope John Paul II makes history today, becoming the third longest serving hope. The 83-year-old Pope appeared at his weekly address today. He strongly condemned the Madrid attack calling it barbaric and horrendous.
Protesting while honoring the men and women who fought in Iraq -- Elaine.
ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Elaine Quijano live at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, where hundreds of people turned out to voice their opposition to the military action in Iraq. I'll have that story coming up.
LIN: Also, we'll have an update on the campaign trail. John Kerry challenged by a voter on his claim to have the support of world leaders. Details ahead.
And down, but certainly not out: faith pulls a community together after a tragedy.
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LIN: Top stories this hour: Socialists claim victory in Spain's election. Analysts say Thursday's bombings are the key to the upset.
And in Baltimore, crews find two bodies missing since last week's water taxi accident.
The war in Iraq began one year ago this week. Today anti-war protesters marched to the gates of Dover Air Force Base. Some U.S. military families are part of the procession.
Dover, Delaware, is where the remains of U.S. soldiers killed in action are returned home. And our Elaine Quijano is there with more details.
Elaine, interesting, because so many of these people, or some of these people, actually were supporters of the war in the very beginning.
QUIJANO: That's very true, Carol. In fact, one woman we talked to said she actually changed her mind over the course of many months, this woman saying she was very much in support of the war initially, but later this woman, who lost her son said she could not understand why the military action was continuing.
But, as you said, here outside the gates at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, hundreds of people turned out. One of them, a California mother who hoped that her journey here would help her find some measure of peace.
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QUIJANO (voice-over): Jane Bright carries with her a burden she hopes no other family will have to endure.
JANE BRIGHT, LOST SON IN IRAQ: He was beautiful. He was 24 years old. He was a gifted student.
QUIJANO: Last summer, Bright sat vigil for two nights beside her son's body at a funeral home in California. Her son, Sergeant Evan Ashcraft with 101st Airborne Division, was killed in an attack near Mosul, Iraq, last July.
JIM BRIGHT, STEPSON KILLED IN IRAQ: And he died for something, I think, was a mistake, a big, huge mistake and it's a horrible waste, and it has to be changed.
QUIJANO: Bright was among several hundred anti-war demonstrators. Among them, veterans, peace activists and parents many of whom marched several miles to Delaware's Dover Air Force Base where the remains of U.S. servicemen and women first return home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: John T. Rivero, 23, U.S. army.
QUIJANO: Along the way, they read the names of those killed, Americans and Iraqis alike. They then gathered and remembered those lost near the mortuary where their loved ones once lay.
JANE BRIGHT: I'm here today because I want to, in my mind, memorialize my son's journey home from Iraq.
QUIJANO: Their message, peace and the safe return of troops home from Iraq as well as the hope that people remember their loved one's sacrifices.
JANE BRIGHT: We want the American public to not lose sight as they go about their daily lives that people are still dying.
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QUIJANO: Now many of those same demonstrators also plan to travel to Washington for protests there tomorrow. First, they plan to be outside Walter Reed Army Medical Center, and then they will travel in the afternoon to Lafayette Park across the street from the White House. This, all timed to coincide later this week with the one-year anniversary of the start of the Iraqi conflict -- Carol.
LIN: All right. Thank you very much, Elaine Quijano at Dover. In our prime time show at 10:00 we're going to be going deeper into this issue with one of the families.
And at the bottom of this hour, we're going to hear from the White House on the war in Iraq and how the terrorist attacks overseas could impact the international coalition in Iraq.
In the meantime, we've had some breaking news here at the CNN center. Our people on the ground in Gaza in the Middle East report four explosions. That's all we know right now. We are working the story on the ground and as soon as we get fresh information, we're going to bring it to you.
We've got some other news, though, from across America. A Florida driver looked right and left before turning on to a Velusia County road but never thought to look up. He probably should have, because a few moments later, a small plane made an emergency landing on the roof of his pickup truck. Amazingly, neither the driver nor the pilot were seriously injured.
A Utah mother charged with murder for allegedly refusing a cesarean section was convicted of child endangerment 4 years ago. The "Pittsburg Tribune Review" says Melissa Rowland got 5 years probation for punching her toddler daughter in the face.
And Mel Gibsons "The Passion of the Christ" is No. 1 at the bock office for the third straight weekend. Studio estimates show the film earning more than a quarter billion dollars since it opened.
Whether it's the train or the slow drive to the office, research find how you can get to work and it says something about your personality. We're going to find out how up next.
And from Michael Jordan to Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown, we are live with the man who taught some of the greatest in the game about the upcoming NCAA tournaments.
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LIN: For many Americans, a long commute has become an accepted part of life. And whether you are behind the wheel, riding the train or hopping the bus, how you get to work actually says something about you. Andrew Essex of "Detail" magazine joins us now to explain this.
Andrew, in your article you actually say that your commute can be as secretive as a mistress. That's a great way to open the segment. What do you mean by that?
ANDREW ESSEX, "DETAIL" MAGAZINE: Well, for a lot of guys, life begins after work. You know, there's the happy hour, maybe a ball game or something like that. But then you have to start lying. You have to start saying, I've got somewhere to go, but you're really basically going to the train.
LIN: Did you talk to a lot of your readers who said that, that they lie to their spouse or their mate?
ESSEX: They lie to their friends. Basically they say, yep, sorry, I have to be somewhere and maybe it sounds a little sort of secretive, but they're really just going to the train station unfortunately.
LIN: Does the distance between home and work actually say something about your personality?
ESSEX: The distance, yes, absolutely. I think there's train people and there's car people. And the longer you are willing to submit to that kind of ride means the more sort of masochistic you are, I think.
LIN: Really?
ESSEX: Absolutely.
LIN: Sometimes a long commute means you can listen to the radio, decompress, return some calls.
ESSEX: Or spend three hours sitting in a tight little cramped spot.
LIN: Good point. Good point. What else can you learn about somebody's commute?
ESSEX: I think there are car people and there are train people. Train people are definitely the minority compared to the car people. Train people like to let someone else take control, sit back like you said, listen to a book. Car people like to have their hands on the wheel and feel like they are in control of their own destiny. So they are very different types of personalities.
LIN: You actually spoke with a number of executives, and there is sort of a ranking, a certain status when it comes to commuting.
ESSEX: Yes, absolutely. Executives really like to be in their own car. They like to multitask in a vehicle. So that means maybe a book on tape, something that's going to educate them or definitely some kind of phone system that's very complicated where they can multitask.
LIN: So, what does it say about Americans who work from their homes?
ESSEX: That they are the lucky ones. Pajama's all day, what's wrong with that?
LIN: So it's a status thing. So, if you work from your house. But what if you are a homemaker, you don't go anywhere. What does that say about you?
ESSEX: Then you're really the smart one. Anyone who doesn't have to be in traffic all day definitely has the right thing going on.
LIN: How do you get to work?
ESSEX: I take the subway. I'm a New Yorker.
LIN: What does it say to you?
ESSEX: I have to spend $3 every day and sit in a smelly little car.
LIN: So, what does your mate know about you then as a result?
ESSEX: She knows that I'm a very patient man.
LIN: Oh. And how lovely at that. What a fun topic, Andrew. How did you think of it?
ESSEX: Everyone in America, 118 million people commuting every day, 165 million miles.
LIN: Sounds like you learned a lot. ESSEX: Yes, absolutely.
LIN: Thanks very much, Andrew, for sharing. You can read about it in "Details" magazine.
Well, 22 hours, spanning 11 time zones. The ballots are being tallied in Russia has President Vladimir Putin seeks another term in office. We are there live.
KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And I'm Kathleen Koch. As the 1 year anniversary approaches, the Bush administration made a full court press on Iraq. That as it prepared to lose a coalition parner there. I'll be back with more news on that, after this.
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LIN: Here's a look at the top stories this hour. Israel is investigating twin suicide bombings today in the port city of Ashdod. The attacks killed 13 people, including the two bombers. More than 20 bystanders were also injured, some of them seriously. The Palestinian militant groups Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed joint responsibility for the attacks.
Sticker shock at the pump: a new survey shows in the last two weeks a gallon of gas reached an average national high of $1.74. So far, this year, gas prices have jumped by nearly 26 cents. Experts say prices are now leveling off and should not go much higher.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is claiming victory in Russia's election. The win will give him a second four-year term in power. He's pledging to deliver stability to Russia and end poverty.
For more on Russia's presidential elections and what to expect from Vladimir Putin the second time around, I'm joined by Andrew Jack. He's the Moscow bureau chief for the "Financial Times" newspaper and author of a new book called "Inside Putin's russia."
Andrew thank you very much for being here.
Big day for Russia, but a predictable one at the same time. Let me read back to you some concerns by the United States Secretary of State Colin Powell who is very concerned about the lack of openness in Russia's election. "Vladamir Putin was basically able to set the stage for the election by tweaking the cabinet and exercising some of his presidential powers." Is that a legitimate claim by the secretary of state here?
ANDREW JACK, "FINANCIAL TIMES": Well, I think a lot of people, both international observers and domestic critics of the Kremlin would argue that there was a considerable degree of manipulation of the media, particularly state television, which focused primarily on the president.
And I think equally, the fact that he refused to participate in the television debates with other candidates, that he really had no program and even decided to reshuffle his government just ahead, rather than just after the elections certainly raised a lot of concerns.
LIN: Well, the president is promising Democratic reforms or more Democratic reforms. What's ahead for the Russian people?
JACK: Well, I think I'd call Putin a liberal authoritarian, which is to say, on political grounds, on democratic grounds, I don't think we can expect a lot of advancement over the next four years. In terms of economic reform, though, I think Putting is very much a pragmatist. He sees the way to make Russia great again is through cooperation with the west through trade and investments.
At least in principle, the Russian people can expect some further tax reforms and simplifications and in theory, certainly he's pledged to move quite quickly in terms of reform of the public sector and the civil service to make government smaller and less of a hindrance to small business and to ordinary people.
LIN: Terror, terror attacks, Osama Bin Laden, the latest attacks in Madrid, all of that on the minds of many Americans as this -- our presidential election is coming up this November. How is President Putin -- what is President Putin's role going to be with the Bush Administration and whatever the next administration is going forward in the war on terror?
JACK: Well, the question came this evening, of course. President Putin's reaction to Secretary of State Powell's comments. And he was quite open. He stressed that he thought this was perhaps actually related to the U.S. political cycle, rather than any deep worsening of the fundamental bilateral relationship with the U.S.
He certainly stressed that continually that he considers the U.S. still to be a very tight partner on the common fight against international terrorism as one of his top priorities. So I don't see any great change in that area.
LIN: Andrew Jack, more of the same, but interesting times in which we live. Thank you very much for joining us today.
The Bush Administration is preparing to mark the one-year anniversary of the war in Iraq. The White House says it's winning the war on terror, but the bombings in Spain have some European leaders thinking about regrouping. And many are wondering if the coalition is going to even lost. Our Kathleen Koch has that story.
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KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They were firm and unapologetic on the decision to go to war in Iraq.
DONALD RUMSFELD, DEFENSE SECRETARY: Yes, I think it was the right thing to do.
KOCH: On the elusive weapons of mass destruction.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...May not exist any longer. But let's not suggest that somehow we knew this. KOCH: The Bush Administration's top officials made the rounds of the Sunday morning talk shows insisting the world is now a safer place and that the war on terrorism is being won.
But a new Al-Qaeda claim that it launched lost week's Madrid attacks to punish Spain for joining the U.S. in Iraq and in Afghanistan, prompted questions about whether the coalition would endure.
CONDOLEEZA RICE, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR: No one can be intimidated. We are at war with these people. And yes, they will try and attack those who they believe might defeat them. That is a part of their game. But they will not win, and we will not falter.
Koch: One lawmaker compared some Spaniards' belief that if they pull their troops out of Iraq, they'll be safe with British efforts to appease Hitler before World War II.
SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN, (D) CONNECTICUT: I hate to say it, but that's the same kind logic that led Nevel Chamberlain (ph) in Munich to try to pacify Hitler in the late '30s. Obviously that didn't work, and it won't work anymore with Al-Qaeda or their elk (ph)around the world. We have to stop them.
KOCH: That's easier said than done, and some worry what will happen if as the Al-Qaeda message promised, more terror attacks followed, are getting Spain or other U.S. allies.
KEN POLLACK, CNN ANALYST: There are countries which have given into terrorism and changed their ways because they don't want to suffer additional terrorist attacks. I think Spain's reaction itself will be a very important sign of things to come.
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KOCH (on-camera): It is indeed an ominous sign with Spanish voters today ousting the existing government in favor of the opposition which promised to pull Spanish troops out of Iraq. The potential now for the U.S. to lose not only a coalition partner, but a valuable ally. . Carol.
LIN: Any reaction by President Bush or his administration today to the Spain elections?
KOCH: Well obviously, these election returns came rather late. We have gotten no official reaction yet from the White House. Perhaps we will get something tomorrow.
But clearly, this not a development that they will be pleased to see. A partner that became a target of terrorism, perhaps again related to its support for the U.S. effort in Iraq. Basically punishing its own government and making a major change there.
LIN: Thank you very much, Kathleen.
Today, John Kerry was talking health care during his swing through the battleground state of Pennsylvania. After his sweep of Lost Tuesday's primaries, Kerry officially clinched the Democratic presidential nomination. He has the 2,162 delegates he needs to get the nod.
With that, Kerry and President Bush are increasingly turning up the heat against each other.
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LIN (voice-over): A Sunday morning campaign ritual. A trip to church, and a quiet diner breakfast with Pennsylvania voters.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this a usual Sunday morning stop for you?
JOHN KERRY, (D-MA) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Believe the way you make America safer...
LIN: By afternoon, it was the other side of politics.
KERRY: Let him speak.
LIN: At a Bethlehem town meeting an audience member questioned Kerry about a comment he made earlier this month, where he said he'd met with foreign leaders who told him, you have to beat George Bush.
KERRY: I have had conversations with a number of leaders in the course of the lost two years, up until the present moment, and I'm not going to betray the confidences of those conversations.
But I have had conversations with leaders. I've also had friends of mine who have met with leaders, as recently as this past week I've heard from a couple leaders. I'm not going to tell you who they are.
LIN: Kerry refused to reveal the names of people he's met, or had conversations with saying the leaders still work with the Bush Administration.
KERRY: What I said was that I have heard from people who are leaders elsewhere in the world who don't appreciate the Bush administration approach and would love to see a change.
Are you a Republican? You answer the question.
That's not an answer. Did you vote for George Bush? Did you vote for George Bush? Thank you. Thank you. See, democracy works both ways. Democracy is a two-way street.
LIN: In a Sunday television appearance, Secretary of State Colin Powell called on Kerry to release the list of leaders who want him to win the White House.
KERRY: I don't think Colin Powell or the President would start listing names of people who said something critical of something or somebody. I'm not going to do that.
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LIN: Well, one of the big rallying cries for the Democrats is the economy. Many don't expect it to get better until U.S. jobs stop going overseas. Some economists argue outsourcing jobs is good for the economy. I'm going to take up the debate with Roben Farzad of "Smartmoney" magazine in Boston. Robin, hank you for being here.
ROBEN FARZAD, SMARTMONEY MAGAZINE: How are you, Carol?
LIN: I'm doing just fine. At least I'm employed and I'm right here in the United States.
FARZAD: Thankfully.
LIN: Give me a sense of both sides. Pros and cons for our economy when it comes to outsourcing jobs?
FARZAD: Roughly two sides are emerging in this debate. You have one that is getting a lot of press during decision '04 that companies are betraying American workers. They are sending jobs abroad for the lowest bid in mercenary fashion without any patriotism.
The flip side of the argument, which is (UNINTELLIGIBLE) free trade, says that companies are in their right to seek lower job costs -- labor costs, to produce things more efficiently and productively. And ultimately, this is something that grows the entire economic pie. It's not just a short-term issue.
LIN: But only the theory being, that if these companies can save money by outsourcing jobs, that they can invest in research and development and create new higher paying jobs in the United States. But that isn't really happening right now.
FARZAD: Well, it isn't happening now because what you have is a jobless recovery. Always in recent economic history, you have certain jobs lost whether through automation or outsourcing or whatever it is. It's almost like a snake shedding its skin in order to grow new skin.
The problem with this recovery in fits and spurts, is that we haven't seen job creation nearly at the pace that we need to replace the 2.3 million jobs lost.
But on the flip side, look at the Wal-Mart phenomenon. Wal-Mart, if it were to be a country unto itself it would be China's eighth largest trading partner. There's no doubting that Wal-Mart, which is very much a result of outsourcing and globalization, has been a boon to the U.S. economy and U.S. consumers.
LIN: But it's not a boon to the guy or gal that has to support their family on minimum wage. Frankly, I don't even know what Wal- Mart pays, but I know Wal-Mart don't pay what say a telecommunications company might pay a sales representative selling services and products on the telephone, and a lot of those jobs, for example are leaving the United States.
FARZAD: Right. Which begs the question, in an election year what kind of remedy to policymakers have? It's not a perfect dart. Obviously all of this theory is cold comfort for workers who are losing their jobs. Obviously, a high-paying job in a textile mill or auto plant can't be replaced with a minimum wage job at Wal-Mart. But we have to be able to reinvest in that next leg of jobs, whether in biotech or information technology. The money has to be freed up and policymakers have to make that environment possible, whether through increased benefits or health care sharing costs.
And the verdict is still out. But it's just increasingly evident that this is not a black or white thing. It's not easy for workers who are losing their jobs, and there's no way to force companies to keep jobs here and still be competitive in a global economy.
LIN: Right, but is there any way to force companies or create incentive for companies to then say, you're saving "X" amount of dollars by outsourcing this set of jobs. Therefore, you need to spend "X" number of dollars to create other jobs here in the United States.
FARZAD: Well, that is typically done through an incentive program. I saw one stat that it cost a company 1/30 of the cost to employ Chinese manufacturing force as it does in the United States. It's prohibitively expensive. That's a lot to make up.
Whether the United States can come in and kick in benefits in terms of healthcare cost sharing, or you see a lot of governors of states such as Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, attracting foreign companies such as Toyota, BMW, with generous benefits, putting off state taxes.
A lot of this is a local issue. And it's something that just cannot be mandated with one blanket law or protectionism. We're finding that this is a lot more difficult than what a lot of politicians are making it out to be.
LIN: Yes, and we're going to be hearing those politicians talking about exactly that.
FARZAD: Yes, until they turn blue in the face.
LIN: Yes, John Kerry, George W. Bush. All right. Thank you so much.
FARZAD: Thank you Carol, have a good weekend.
LIN: You too, "Smartmoney" magazine.
Well he has molded some of the greatest athletes in the game of basketball. We're coming back with a live chat with former North Carolina head coach Dean Smith.
And keeping the faith among the ashes. We have the incredible story of a community coming together in the face of tragedy.
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LIN: All right. This hour's top stories. Socialists claim victory in Spain's election. Analysts say Thursday's bombings are the key to the upset.
In Baltimore, crews find two of the three bodies missing since last week's water taxi accident.
A little change of pace here. Sexy styles on sale. With "Sex and the City" off the air, fans of the show can now wear the fashions of Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte. Designer duds from the show are being sold on consignment. Jeanie Moos even did a little shopping.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: If you said good-bye "Sex and the City," now say --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, lover.
MOOS: To shoes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Aren't they gorgeous? Aren't they gorgeous?
MOOS: Tops, you name it. Castaways from the cast from "Sex and the City." A line outside a second hand consignment shop wound around the block.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Armed with our credit cards, we're ready to go.
MOOS: The first one rushing the door was a law student. She ended up with a striped dress, pink sandals, and a bra.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The bra, I don't know if they wore it, but it's pink and it's pretty and it was cheap.
MOOS: Every once in a while, someone let out a scream when they recognized a piece of clothing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She wore this when they had sex for the first time.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The furry boots. I remember when these were on. Anyone want Miranda's skinny jeans? Remember that episode?
MOOS: This guy sent $325 on a birthday jacket for a friend.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is sweet.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's going to like that.
MOOS: Even the owner of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) kept a little something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got this little sperm necklace.
MOOS: Prices range from $10 to $5,000. This woman spent $700 on a jacket that didn't quite fit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's very small, but I don't care.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Carrie wore this hat in the episode where her and Charlotte are sitting and rating the guys in New York City on who they would sleep with or not.
SARAH JESSICA PARKER, ACTRESS: Men who are too good looking are never good in bed because they never had to be.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've dated plenty of men here and they were definitely not so good.
MOOS: That probably went right over the head of the youngest shopper, Ricardo.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He watched the Last episode, and he loved it.
MOOS: Now Ricardo can cuddle up and watch reruns using Carrie's bathrobe as a blanky. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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LIN: All right, we are waiting for Dean Smith to talk about the latest brackets in the NCAA. Stay Tuned.
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LIN: If you follow college basketball, you are probably familiar with our next guest. He's coached some of the greatest names in the game from Michael Jordan to Vince Carter. But for most of his students, his lessons extend far beyond the basketball court. He is sharing them in a new book titled "The Carolina Way." Joining us to talk about this year's NCAA basketball tournament is former University of North Carolina Coach Dean Smith.
DEAN SMITH, FMR. UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA COACH: Hi, Carol. Thank you for inviting me. LIN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Let's put up the first one here. I can read them off to you. This is East Rutherford, St. Joseph's, Oklahoma State, and Pittsburgh and Wake Forest. Any surprises there?
SMITH: Well, St. Joe certainly deserves the number one seed based on their entire record. But we have to keep in mind that not many times do all the number one seeds arrive in the final four.
LIN: That's true. All right. Let's take a look at the next bracket. Come up, Atlanta, Duke, Mississippi State, Texas, Cincinnati.
SMITH: That's a strong bracket, and certainly Duke should be a number one based on their team and what they've accomplished this year. And they certainly are, I think, they could be the national champion. They have a lot of tough ones there in order to get to the final four.
LIN: All right. Next one up, St. Louis, Kentucky, Gonzaga, a nice Cinderella story there from before.
SMITH: It is. And, of course, Kentucky deserves the number one seed having won the regular season and the tournament. They certainly are a threat for the final four and the national championship.
LIN: Wasn't there some talk that Gonzaga would get a number one seed?
SMITH: With whom? I couldn't hear that.
LIN: I said that wasn't there some talk that Gonzaga would get a number one seed?
SMITH: Yes, I think I heard (ph) them only. They are certainly capable. I think we all admire what Mark has done with that team. But I do think that based on their schedule, it's a thing they always find. It's hard to say, we have a tough schedule, but they really are capable.
LIN: All right. Then out west, Stanford, well deserved.
SMITH: What a great year. They probably don't want to play in the east, but Stanford had a great, great year. Extremely capable. I think the committee really did an excellent job in picking the number one seeds. Now all the others will try to prove they're wrong.
LIN: Any Cinderella stories you're expecting this time around?
SMITH: That's what makes it great. That's why we have CBS's has work so hard for this tournament because everyone kind of cheers for at least one or two upsets early and, obviously, it has happened and probably will happen again.
LIN: You have any picks for the final four yourself?
SMITH: Four seeds are hard to say no to, but there will probably be three of them there in the end.
LIN: Were you disappointed that Washington didn't make it?
SMITH: No, Washington came on strong, but they lost five games early at one time, and in the conference, but they sure came on strong and are capable.
LIN: What the heck happened to your Tarheels, Coach?
SMITH: We'll be there. We're young and maybe not this year, but who knows. We have a great coach in Roy Williams. Well, the best in my opinion, and from then on, I think these young guys, they've had every game but two have been down to the last minute, or with three or four more possessions, they could have had two losses and a number one seed.
LIN: Well, my bruins are --
SMITH: The worst part is to play Air Force. I coached there, too. But they have a marvelous (UNINTELLIGIBLE) offense and the game will be in the 50s. That's hard for a team to speed them up.
LIN: My Bruins are rebuilding as well, so...
SMITH: They are.
LIN: We're in it together.
SMITH: They'll be back.
LIN: So we hope. Thanks so much, Coach Smith, always great to see you. Looks like an exciting season.
SMITH: It surely will be.
LIN: Fire officials say it could take days to discover what sparked a four-alarm fire that destroyed the oldest black Baptist church in Pittsburgh. Parishioners watched in horror yesterday as the 131-year-old church burned to the ground. Two firefighters died, 31 were wounded. Today the community is vowing to rebuild.
Adora Udoji joins us live from Pittsburgh. It's great to have an inspiring story of hope Adora, especially after an inspiring sports story there with Coach Dean Smith. It's a tough transition to make.
ADORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good evening Carol. Indeed, this is a very determined group. The folks who belong to the Ebenezer Baptist Church here in Pittsburgh, as you said, the oldest black church in the city, 131 years old.
They are taking away bits of it piece by piece now, not wanting it to pose a danger to anyone. Really, though, we talked to many of those who attend this church and they said they were most concerned today. Their thoughts were most on those firefighters who lost their lives yesterday. Two veteran Pittsburgh firefighters , in their early 50s were actually crushed to death in the church yesterday when it was -- they were fighting the fire. So many of the members of this congregation today saying their thoughts are with their families.
But also today, they were meeting, worshiping at a nearby church that opened their doors to them today, and they talk a lot about rebuilding. They talked about the legacy of this church. Been in many families for five, six, seven decades, in this exact place. So they are saying that they have to rebuild. That, in fact, tomorrow morning they are going to sit down and start planning and also today, there was several other churches who gave donations, wanting to help the process along for turning the corner on this terrible tragedy here at Ebenezer Baptist church.
But, again, many, many members of the congregation saying today was really a time to send their thoughts and prayers out the families of the two firefighters who were killed here yesterday. Carol?
LIN: Yes, it's tough to see those bulldozers move in behind you Adora. Thank you very much.
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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: CNN SUNDAY is ahead, but first these headlines. Russian president Vladamir Putin is claiming victory in the presidential election. More than 69 percent of the vote is counted. Putin, overwhelmingly, was re-elected. This was not a surprise. He's promising the economy and give the media more freedom.
In downtowm Moscow, investigators say 2 people are dead after a massive fire at an historic exhibition center near Red Square. More than 20 fire units responded. The fire probably started with an electric short circuit.
And U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft is getting some rest at home. He was discharged from George Washington University hospital today, five days after undergoing surgery to remove his gallbladder. The Justice Department says Deputy Attorney General James Comey will continue handling things until Ashcroft returns.
Good evening. I'm Carol Lin at the CNN center in Atlanta. Coming up this hour, another deadly blast in the Middle East. Two suicide bombers hit a strategic target in Israel.
The White House prepares to mark the one-year anniversary of the war in Iraq. National security moves to the top of the president's agenda. We're live with details.
And we'll sit down with baseball legend Dean Smith as march madness heats up with the NCAA basketball tournament.
We begin in Spain, though. The investigation into last week's blast has turned up another possible al Qaeda connection. The attack loomed large today as the country held a general election. CNN's Brent Sadler joins us now from Madrid. Any new developments there today?
BRENT SADLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Carol, yes, indeed. One of three Moroccans being held in custody after last Thursday's devastating bomb attacks against the rail commuter network here under suspicion. Before those blasts, not only here in Spain, but also in Morocco, suspicion that that Moroccan national may have been responsible or at least involved in suicide bombings of targets, Jewish and Spanish targets in Casablanca last may. So one important development there.
This coming at the same time as there has been a complete turnaround in events on the political scene here. Now, the end of election day here in Madrid and a stunning turnaround in event, the ruling Popular Party, the voters turned against the government of Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, a stone supporter of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq a year ago a year ago. A year ago when Spanish on the streets protested Spain's involvement in that war.
And it does seem that they are voting in the ballot boxes here today turned into a referendum on that Spanish policy to support U.S. efforts in Iraq not only in the invasion a year ago, but continuing support of coalition efforts on the ground in Iraq today with 1,300 Spanish troops serving in the U.S.-led coalition.
Now the new prime minister designate has said one of his top priorities will be to confront terror, but at the same time, he's also told electors before this ballotting day today, he would pull Spanish troops out of Iraq.
So a dramatic change in the events here. A sea change if you like, in politics on the ground here in Madrid. Back to you, Carol.
LIN: Thank you very much, Brent Sadler, with the latest on the ground in Madrid.
We're going to focus also on the aftermath of the attack. Eric Pape joins us now from Madrid. He is a special correspondent for "Newsweek" magazine. And we want to explore exactly what the impact of those attacks on the trains Thursday, as well as al Qaeda's claim of responsibility yesterday, what this all means to us here in the United States.
Eric, first and foremost, what -- what do you make of al Qaeda's claim yesterday that it was responsible for the attacks on the trains?
ERIC PAPE, "NEWSWEEK": It's hard to know at this point. At least the latest information I have, whether that is a valid claim, a number of people do have some serious doubts about it. And, also, they could -- al Qaeda could realistically take responsibility, even if they weren't involved in the attack. They would fit a number of their interests. So I think it should be looked at with a little bit of scrutiny.
LIN: How much do you think al Qaeda's videotape, which perhaps was even perhaps strategically released yesterday on the eve of the election there in Spain, how much of an impact do you think it had on the fall of the government there? Or the Popular Party, I should say?
PAPE: It was huge. I think, yes, I think there's no doubt this election was going towards the Popular Party. They had an almost certain victory ahead of them. The resentment that's come out in relation to the investigation and since the attack has clearly been the propelling force and is likely the force that created such a high turnout.
LIN: So, do you think it was the specific intent of the terrorists who planted the bombs to overturn the government?
PAPE: I think it's pretty difficult to know what someone who did an attack like this, what their motivations were unless they say them and even then it's worthy of scrutiny. Clearly, it seems to have been an attack on this government in the hopes of overturning it, and that part of the attack, I think is -- it's clear that they succeeded.
LIN: Exactly. I mean, the point is that it worked. Therefore, what does it mean for other supporters of the United States? For example, Great Britain, obviously a major ally in President Bush's effort to overturn Saddam Hussein.
PAPE: Oh, yes, absolutely. The international implications of this are huge on a number of levels. One of the levels, of course, being that the U.S. has lost maybe its staunchest ally in Europe. Tony Blair has clearly been strong behind the U.S. and has sent far more troops in Iraq, but he's also been more hesitant in a number of ways. He's been speaking more quietly.
Aznar has been an absolute advocate of the U.S. war in Iraq. I think the other question is whether the U.S. is going to see Spain pull its troops out of Iraq. That's the question after this election in international terms.
LIN: So, what are people telling you on the street there in Spain in terms of what should happen next?
PAPE: In what way? I'm sorry.
LIN: Well, in the sense that -- are they supporting the idea of pulling out Spanish troops? Is there more anti-American rhetoric on the streets, because it seems that fear is now driving the political decisions in that country just in the last 48 hours.
PAPE: I think that a big issue on the street here is not fear. I mean, the Aznar government has been absolute and adamant against terrorism from Eta and they've spoken very strongly against al Qaeda. But the fact is they were not able to prevent this attack from happening.
I think at times like this and with no attack before the actual election, it's natural a lot of people would say, we need a change. We need someone else who will do something. It remains to be seen if the socialists will be able to do anything, if this is al Qaeda. What will they be able to go against it? I don't know.
If it is Eta, I think they will also have to think of creative policies.
LIN: All right, thank you very much. Eric Pape with "Newsweek" magazine.
Also you can visit our Web site for in-depth coverage of the incident in Spain. Log on to cnn.com for a special report on the massacre in Madrid. You'll find the latest headlines photos and video.
Right now, we want to move on to other major news. In Israel, the country is on high alert after a deadly attack. Two suicide bombers blew themselves up today in the port city of Ashdod. They killed 11 people and wound more than 20. CNN's Chris Burns reports.
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CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The blasts happened within minutes of each other. The first in a citrus warehouse of Israel's southern port of Ashdod. As onlookers gathered across the street, a second weekend blast, shatter this office bungalow. It was the first time suicide bombers had attacked an economic target.
The militant groups Hamas and the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, loosely linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah movment, jointly claimed the attack. They said the bombers came from the Gaza Strip.
If confirmed, it's the first time suicide bombers had crossed into Israel from Gaza, despite Israel's security fence around the territory. That could raise questions about the barrier Israel is building in the West Bank.
GIL KLEIMAN, ISRAELI POLICE SPOKESMAN: If after 3 1/2 years they succeeded one time, then I'd still that fence was very effective and very helpful.
BURNS (on camera): The Palestinian authority condemned the bombings, called for a cease fire and peace talks. The Israeli government put off efforts at arranging a first meeting between the Israeli and Palestinian prime ministers, citing this attack.
(voice-over): Meanwhile, in Gaza, a Palestinian judge has thrown out charges against four Palestinian militants held in last October's bombing of a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Gaza. A bombing that killed three U.S. security guards.
The judge cited a lack of evidence. Officials said Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat would have the final say in their release. U.S. officials demanded those guilty be convicted and punished. Chris Burns, CNN, Ashdod, Israel.
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LIN: Time for a look at some other news around the world. In Seoul, South Korea, tens of thousands of protesters turned out today for a demonstration to show their anger over the president's impeachment. South Korea's national assembly voted Friday to impeach the president after accusations of illegal campaigning and incompetence.
Former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is heading to Jamaica. He's currently in the Central African Republic, but is expected in Jamaica early next week to see his children. Jamaican officials have notified the U.S. of his impending trip. They say it won't last for more than eight to ten weeks, and he won't be seeking political asylum.
And in the Vatican Pope John Paul II makes history today, becoming the third longest serving hope. The 83-year-old Pope appeared at his weekly address today. He strongly condemned the Madrid attack calling it barbaric and horrendous.
Protesting while honoring the men and women who fought in Iraq -- Elaine.
ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Elaine Quijano live at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, where hundreds of people turned out to voice their opposition to the military action in Iraq. I'll have that story coming up.
LIN: Also, we'll have an update on the campaign trail. John Kerry challenged by a voter on his claim to have the support of world leaders. Details ahead.
And down, but certainly not out: faith pulls a community together after a tragedy.
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LIN: Top stories this hour: Socialists claim victory in Spain's election. Analysts say Thursday's bombings are the key to the upset.
And in Baltimore, crews find two bodies missing since last week's water taxi accident.
The war in Iraq began one year ago this week. Today anti-war protesters marched to the gates of Dover Air Force Base. Some U.S. military families are part of the procession.
Dover, Delaware, is where the remains of U.S. soldiers killed in action are returned home. And our Elaine Quijano is there with more details.
Elaine, interesting, because so many of these people, or some of these people, actually were supporters of the war in the very beginning.
QUIJANO: That's very true, Carol. In fact, one woman we talked to said she actually changed her mind over the course of many months, this woman saying she was very much in support of the war initially, but later this woman, who lost her son said she could not understand why the military action was continuing.
But, as you said, here outside the gates at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, hundreds of people turned out. One of them, a California mother who hoped that her journey here would help her find some measure of peace.
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QUIJANO (voice-over): Jane Bright carries with her a burden she hopes no other family will have to endure.
JANE BRIGHT, LOST SON IN IRAQ: He was beautiful. He was 24 years old. He was a gifted student.
QUIJANO: Last summer, Bright sat vigil for two nights beside her son's body at a funeral home in California. Her son, Sergeant Evan Ashcraft with 101st Airborne Division, was killed in an attack near Mosul, Iraq, last July.
JIM BRIGHT, STEPSON KILLED IN IRAQ: And he died for something, I think, was a mistake, a big, huge mistake and it's a horrible waste, and it has to be changed.
QUIJANO: Bright was among several hundred anti-war demonstrators. Among them, veterans, peace activists and parents many of whom marched several miles to Delaware's Dover Air Force Base where the remains of U.S. servicemen and women first return home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: John T. Rivero, 23, U.S. army.
QUIJANO: Along the way, they read the names of those killed, Americans and Iraqis alike. They then gathered and remembered those lost near the mortuary where their loved ones once lay.
JANE BRIGHT: I'm here today because I want to, in my mind, memorialize my son's journey home from Iraq.
QUIJANO: Their message, peace and the safe return of troops home from Iraq as well as the hope that people remember their loved one's sacrifices.
JANE BRIGHT: We want the American public to not lose sight as they go about their daily lives that people are still dying.
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QUIJANO: Now many of those same demonstrators also plan to travel to Washington for protests there tomorrow. First, they plan to be outside Walter Reed Army Medical Center, and then they will travel in the afternoon to Lafayette Park across the street from the White House. This, all timed to coincide later this week with the one-year anniversary of the start of the Iraqi conflict -- Carol.
LIN: All right. Thank you very much, Elaine Quijano at Dover. In our prime time show at 10:00 we're going to be going deeper into this issue with one of the families.
And at the bottom of this hour, we're going to hear from the White House on the war in Iraq and how the terrorist attacks overseas could impact the international coalition in Iraq.
In the meantime, we've had some breaking news here at the CNN center. Our people on the ground in Gaza in the Middle East report four explosions. That's all we know right now. We are working the story on the ground and as soon as we get fresh information, we're going to bring it to you.
We've got some other news, though, from across America. A Florida driver looked right and left before turning on to a Velusia County road but never thought to look up. He probably should have, because a few moments later, a small plane made an emergency landing on the roof of his pickup truck. Amazingly, neither the driver nor the pilot were seriously injured.
A Utah mother charged with murder for allegedly refusing a cesarean section was convicted of child endangerment 4 years ago. The "Pittsburg Tribune Review" says Melissa Rowland got 5 years probation for punching her toddler daughter in the face.
And Mel Gibsons "The Passion of the Christ" is No. 1 at the bock office for the third straight weekend. Studio estimates show the film earning more than a quarter billion dollars since it opened.
Whether it's the train or the slow drive to the office, research find how you can get to work and it says something about your personality. We're going to find out how up next.
And from Michael Jordan to Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown, we are live with the man who taught some of the greatest in the game about the upcoming NCAA tournaments.
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LIN: For many Americans, a long commute has become an accepted part of life. And whether you are behind the wheel, riding the train or hopping the bus, how you get to work actually says something about you. Andrew Essex of "Detail" magazine joins us now to explain this.
Andrew, in your article you actually say that your commute can be as secretive as a mistress. That's a great way to open the segment. What do you mean by that?
ANDREW ESSEX, "DETAIL" MAGAZINE: Well, for a lot of guys, life begins after work. You know, there's the happy hour, maybe a ball game or something like that. But then you have to start lying. You have to start saying, I've got somewhere to go, but you're really basically going to the train.
LIN: Did you talk to a lot of your readers who said that, that they lie to their spouse or their mate?
ESSEX: They lie to their friends. Basically they say, yep, sorry, I have to be somewhere and maybe it sounds a little sort of secretive, but they're really just going to the train station unfortunately.
LIN: Does the distance between home and work actually say something about your personality?
ESSEX: The distance, yes, absolutely. I think there's train people and there's car people. And the longer you are willing to submit to that kind of ride means the more sort of masochistic you are, I think.
LIN: Really?
ESSEX: Absolutely.
LIN: Sometimes a long commute means you can listen to the radio, decompress, return some calls.
ESSEX: Or spend three hours sitting in a tight little cramped spot.
LIN: Good point. Good point. What else can you learn about somebody's commute?
ESSEX: I think there are car people and there are train people. Train people are definitely the minority compared to the car people. Train people like to let someone else take control, sit back like you said, listen to a book. Car people like to have their hands on the wheel and feel like they are in control of their own destiny. So they are very different types of personalities.
LIN: You actually spoke with a number of executives, and there is sort of a ranking, a certain status when it comes to commuting.
ESSEX: Yes, absolutely. Executives really like to be in their own car. They like to multitask in a vehicle. So that means maybe a book on tape, something that's going to educate them or definitely some kind of phone system that's very complicated where they can multitask.
LIN: So, what does it say about Americans who work from their homes?
ESSEX: That they are the lucky ones. Pajama's all day, what's wrong with that?
LIN: So it's a status thing. So, if you work from your house. But what if you are a homemaker, you don't go anywhere. What does that say about you?
ESSEX: Then you're really the smart one. Anyone who doesn't have to be in traffic all day definitely has the right thing going on.
LIN: How do you get to work?
ESSEX: I take the subway. I'm a New Yorker.
LIN: What does it say to you?
ESSEX: I have to spend $3 every day and sit in a smelly little car.
LIN: So, what does your mate know about you then as a result?
ESSEX: She knows that I'm a very patient man.
LIN: Oh. And how lovely at that. What a fun topic, Andrew. How did you think of it?
ESSEX: Everyone in America, 118 million people commuting every day, 165 million miles.
LIN: Sounds like you learned a lot. ESSEX: Yes, absolutely.
LIN: Thanks very much, Andrew, for sharing. You can read about it in "Details" magazine.
Well, 22 hours, spanning 11 time zones. The ballots are being tallied in Russia has President Vladimir Putin seeks another term in office. We are there live.
KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And I'm Kathleen Koch. As the 1 year anniversary approaches, the Bush administration made a full court press on Iraq. That as it prepared to lose a coalition parner there. I'll be back with more news on that, after this.
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LIN: Here's a look at the top stories this hour. Israel is investigating twin suicide bombings today in the port city of Ashdod. The attacks killed 13 people, including the two bombers. More than 20 bystanders were also injured, some of them seriously. The Palestinian militant groups Hamas and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade claimed joint responsibility for the attacks.
Sticker shock at the pump: a new survey shows in the last two weeks a gallon of gas reached an average national high of $1.74. So far, this year, gas prices have jumped by nearly 26 cents. Experts say prices are now leveling off and should not go much higher.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is claiming victory in Russia's election. The win will give him a second four-year term in power. He's pledging to deliver stability to Russia and end poverty.
For more on Russia's presidential elections and what to expect from Vladimir Putin the second time around, I'm joined by Andrew Jack. He's the Moscow bureau chief for the "Financial Times" newspaper and author of a new book called "Inside Putin's russia."
Andrew thank you very much for being here.
Big day for Russia, but a predictable one at the same time. Let me read back to you some concerns by the United States Secretary of State Colin Powell who is very concerned about the lack of openness in Russia's election. "Vladamir Putin was basically able to set the stage for the election by tweaking the cabinet and exercising some of his presidential powers." Is that a legitimate claim by the secretary of state here?
ANDREW JACK, "FINANCIAL TIMES": Well, I think a lot of people, both international observers and domestic critics of the Kremlin would argue that there was a considerable degree of manipulation of the media, particularly state television, which focused primarily on the president.
And I think equally, the fact that he refused to participate in the television debates with other candidates, that he really had no program and even decided to reshuffle his government just ahead, rather than just after the elections certainly raised a lot of concerns.
LIN: Well, the president is promising Democratic reforms or more Democratic reforms. What's ahead for the Russian people?
JACK: Well, I think I'd call Putin a liberal authoritarian, which is to say, on political grounds, on democratic grounds, I don't think we can expect a lot of advancement over the next four years. In terms of economic reform, though, I think Putting is very much a pragmatist. He sees the way to make Russia great again is through cooperation with the west through trade and investments.
At least in principle, the Russian people can expect some further tax reforms and simplifications and in theory, certainly he's pledged to move quite quickly in terms of reform of the public sector and the civil service to make government smaller and less of a hindrance to small business and to ordinary people.
LIN: Terror, terror attacks, Osama Bin Laden, the latest attacks in Madrid, all of that on the minds of many Americans as this -- our presidential election is coming up this November. How is President Putin -- what is President Putin's role going to be with the Bush Administration and whatever the next administration is going forward in the war on terror?
JACK: Well, the question came this evening, of course. President Putin's reaction to Secretary of State Powell's comments. And he was quite open. He stressed that he thought this was perhaps actually related to the U.S. political cycle, rather than any deep worsening of the fundamental bilateral relationship with the U.S.
He certainly stressed that continually that he considers the U.S. still to be a very tight partner on the common fight against international terrorism as one of his top priorities. So I don't see any great change in that area.
LIN: Andrew Jack, more of the same, but interesting times in which we live. Thank you very much for joining us today.
The Bush Administration is preparing to mark the one-year anniversary of the war in Iraq. The White House says it's winning the war on terror, but the bombings in Spain have some European leaders thinking about regrouping. And many are wondering if the coalition is going to even lost. Our Kathleen Koch has that story.
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KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They were firm and unapologetic on the decision to go to war in Iraq.
DONALD RUMSFELD, DEFENSE SECRETARY: Yes, I think it was the right thing to do.
KOCH: On the elusive weapons of mass destruction.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...May not exist any longer. But let's not suggest that somehow we knew this. KOCH: The Bush Administration's top officials made the rounds of the Sunday morning talk shows insisting the world is now a safer place and that the war on terrorism is being won.
But a new Al-Qaeda claim that it launched lost week's Madrid attacks to punish Spain for joining the U.S. in Iraq and in Afghanistan, prompted questions about whether the coalition would endure.
CONDOLEEZA RICE, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR: No one can be intimidated. We are at war with these people. And yes, they will try and attack those who they believe might defeat them. That is a part of their game. But they will not win, and we will not falter.
Koch: One lawmaker compared some Spaniards' belief that if they pull their troops out of Iraq, they'll be safe with British efforts to appease Hitler before World War II.
SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN, (D) CONNECTICUT: I hate to say it, but that's the same kind logic that led Nevel Chamberlain (ph) in Munich to try to pacify Hitler in the late '30s. Obviously that didn't work, and it won't work anymore with Al-Qaeda or their elk (ph)around the world. We have to stop them.
KOCH: That's easier said than done, and some worry what will happen if as the Al-Qaeda message promised, more terror attacks followed, are getting Spain or other U.S. allies.
KEN POLLACK, CNN ANALYST: There are countries which have given into terrorism and changed their ways because they don't want to suffer additional terrorist attacks. I think Spain's reaction itself will be a very important sign of things to come.
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KOCH (on-camera): It is indeed an ominous sign with Spanish voters today ousting the existing government in favor of the opposition which promised to pull Spanish troops out of Iraq. The potential now for the U.S. to lose not only a coalition partner, but a valuable ally. . Carol.
LIN: Any reaction by President Bush or his administration today to the Spain elections?
KOCH: Well obviously, these election returns came rather late. We have gotten no official reaction yet from the White House. Perhaps we will get something tomorrow.
But clearly, this not a development that they will be pleased to see. A partner that became a target of terrorism, perhaps again related to its support for the U.S. effort in Iraq. Basically punishing its own government and making a major change there.
LIN: Thank you very much, Kathleen.
Today, John Kerry was talking health care during his swing through the battleground state of Pennsylvania. After his sweep of Lost Tuesday's primaries, Kerry officially clinched the Democratic presidential nomination. He has the 2,162 delegates he needs to get the nod.
With that, Kerry and President Bush are increasingly turning up the heat against each other.
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LIN (voice-over): A Sunday morning campaign ritual. A trip to church, and a quiet diner breakfast with Pennsylvania voters.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this a usual Sunday morning stop for you?
JOHN KERRY, (D-MA) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Believe the way you make America safer...
LIN: By afternoon, it was the other side of politics.
KERRY: Let him speak.
LIN: At a Bethlehem town meeting an audience member questioned Kerry about a comment he made earlier this month, where he said he'd met with foreign leaders who told him, you have to beat George Bush.
KERRY: I have had conversations with a number of leaders in the course of the lost two years, up until the present moment, and I'm not going to betray the confidences of those conversations.
But I have had conversations with leaders. I've also had friends of mine who have met with leaders, as recently as this past week I've heard from a couple leaders. I'm not going to tell you who they are.
LIN: Kerry refused to reveal the names of people he's met, or had conversations with saying the leaders still work with the Bush Administration.
KERRY: What I said was that I have heard from people who are leaders elsewhere in the world who don't appreciate the Bush administration approach and would love to see a change.
Are you a Republican? You answer the question.
That's not an answer. Did you vote for George Bush? Did you vote for George Bush? Thank you. Thank you. See, democracy works both ways. Democracy is a two-way street.
LIN: In a Sunday television appearance, Secretary of State Colin Powell called on Kerry to release the list of leaders who want him to win the White House.
KERRY: I don't think Colin Powell or the President would start listing names of people who said something critical of something or somebody. I'm not going to do that.
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LIN: Well, one of the big rallying cries for the Democrats is the economy. Many don't expect it to get better until U.S. jobs stop going overseas. Some economists argue outsourcing jobs is good for the economy. I'm going to take up the debate with Roben Farzad of "Smartmoney" magazine in Boston. Robin, hank you for being here.
ROBEN FARZAD, SMARTMONEY MAGAZINE: How are you, Carol?
LIN: I'm doing just fine. At least I'm employed and I'm right here in the United States.
FARZAD: Thankfully.
LIN: Give me a sense of both sides. Pros and cons for our economy when it comes to outsourcing jobs?
FARZAD: Roughly two sides are emerging in this debate. You have one that is getting a lot of press during decision '04 that companies are betraying American workers. They are sending jobs abroad for the lowest bid in mercenary fashion without any patriotism.
The flip side of the argument, which is (UNINTELLIGIBLE) free trade, says that companies are in their right to seek lower job costs -- labor costs, to produce things more efficiently and productively. And ultimately, this is something that grows the entire economic pie. It's not just a short-term issue.
LIN: But only the theory being, that if these companies can save money by outsourcing jobs, that they can invest in research and development and create new higher paying jobs in the United States. But that isn't really happening right now.
FARZAD: Well, it isn't happening now because what you have is a jobless recovery. Always in recent economic history, you have certain jobs lost whether through automation or outsourcing or whatever it is. It's almost like a snake shedding its skin in order to grow new skin.
The problem with this recovery in fits and spurts, is that we haven't seen job creation nearly at the pace that we need to replace the 2.3 million jobs lost.
But on the flip side, look at the Wal-Mart phenomenon. Wal-Mart, if it were to be a country unto itself it would be China's eighth largest trading partner. There's no doubting that Wal-Mart, which is very much a result of outsourcing and globalization, has been a boon to the U.S. economy and U.S. consumers.
LIN: But it's not a boon to the guy or gal that has to support their family on minimum wage. Frankly, I don't even know what Wal- Mart pays, but I know Wal-Mart don't pay what say a telecommunications company might pay a sales representative selling services and products on the telephone, and a lot of those jobs, for example are leaving the United States.
FARZAD: Right. Which begs the question, in an election year what kind of remedy to policymakers have? It's not a perfect dart. Obviously all of this theory is cold comfort for workers who are losing their jobs. Obviously, a high-paying job in a textile mill or auto plant can't be replaced with a minimum wage job at Wal-Mart. But we have to be able to reinvest in that next leg of jobs, whether in biotech or information technology. The money has to be freed up and policymakers have to make that environment possible, whether through increased benefits or health care sharing costs.
And the verdict is still out. But it's just increasingly evident that this is not a black or white thing. It's not easy for workers who are losing their jobs, and there's no way to force companies to keep jobs here and still be competitive in a global economy.
LIN: Right, but is there any way to force companies or create incentive for companies to then say, you're saving "X" amount of dollars by outsourcing this set of jobs. Therefore, you need to spend "X" number of dollars to create other jobs here in the United States.
FARZAD: Well, that is typically done through an incentive program. I saw one stat that it cost a company 1/30 of the cost to employ Chinese manufacturing force as it does in the United States. It's prohibitively expensive. That's a lot to make up.
Whether the United States can come in and kick in benefits in terms of healthcare cost sharing, or you see a lot of governors of states such as Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, attracting foreign companies such as Toyota, BMW, with generous benefits, putting off state taxes.
A lot of this is a local issue. And it's something that just cannot be mandated with one blanket law or protectionism. We're finding that this is a lot more difficult than what a lot of politicians are making it out to be.
LIN: Yes, and we're going to be hearing those politicians talking about exactly that.
FARZAD: Yes, until they turn blue in the face.
LIN: Yes, John Kerry, George W. Bush. All right. Thank you so much.
FARZAD: Thank you Carol, have a good weekend.
LIN: You too, "Smartmoney" magazine.
Well he has molded some of the greatest athletes in the game of basketball. We're coming back with a live chat with former North Carolina head coach Dean Smith.
And keeping the faith among the ashes. We have the incredible story of a community coming together in the face of tragedy.
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LIN: All right. This hour's top stories. Socialists claim victory in Spain's election. Analysts say Thursday's bombings are the key to the upset.
In Baltimore, crews find two of the three bodies missing since last week's water taxi accident.
A little change of pace here. Sexy styles on sale. With "Sex and the City" off the air, fans of the show can now wear the fashions of Carrie, Samantha, Miranda, and Charlotte. Designer duds from the show are being sold on consignment. Jeanie Moos even did a little shopping.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: If you said good-bye "Sex and the City," now say --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, lover.
MOOS: To shoes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Aren't they gorgeous? Aren't they gorgeous?
MOOS: Tops, you name it. Castaways from the cast from "Sex and the City." A line outside a second hand consignment shop wound around the block.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Armed with our credit cards, we're ready to go.
MOOS: The first one rushing the door was a law student. She ended up with a striped dress, pink sandals, and a bra.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The bra, I don't know if they wore it, but it's pink and it's pretty and it was cheap.
MOOS: Every once in a while, someone let out a scream when they recognized a piece of clothing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She wore this when they had sex for the first time.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The furry boots. I remember when these were on. Anyone want Miranda's skinny jeans? Remember that episode?
MOOS: This guy sent $325 on a birthday jacket for a friend.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is sweet.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's going to like that.
MOOS: Even the owner of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) kept a little something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I got this little sperm necklace.
MOOS: Prices range from $10 to $5,000. This woman spent $700 on a jacket that didn't quite fit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's very small, but I don't care.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Carrie wore this hat in the episode where her and Charlotte are sitting and rating the guys in New York City on who they would sleep with or not.
SARAH JESSICA PARKER, ACTRESS: Men who are too good looking are never good in bed because they never had to be.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've dated plenty of men here and they were definitely not so good.
MOOS: That probably went right over the head of the youngest shopper, Ricardo.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He watched the Last episode, and he loved it.
MOOS: Now Ricardo can cuddle up and watch reruns using Carrie's bathrobe as a blanky. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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LIN: All right, we are waiting for Dean Smith to talk about the latest brackets in the NCAA. Stay Tuned.
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LIN: If you follow college basketball, you are probably familiar with our next guest. He's coached some of the greatest names in the game from Michael Jordan to Vince Carter. But for most of his students, his lessons extend far beyond the basketball court. He is sharing them in a new book titled "The Carolina Way." Joining us to talk about this year's NCAA basketball tournament is former University of North Carolina Coach Dean Smith.
DEAN SMITH, FMR. UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA COACH: Hi, Carol. Thank you for inviting me. LIN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Let's put up the first one here. I can read them off to you. This is East Rutherford, St. Joseph's, Oklahoma State, and Pittsburgh and Wake Forest. Any surprises there?
SMITH: Well, St. Joe certainly deserves the number one seed based on their entire record. But we have to keep in mind that not many times do all the number one seeds arrive in the final four.
LIN: That's true. All right. Let's take a look at the next bracket. Come up, Atlanta, Duke, Mississippi State, Texas, Cincinnati.
SMITH: That's a strong bracket, and certainly Duke should be a number one based on their team and what they've accomplished this year. And they certainly are, I think, they could be the national champion. They have a lot of tough ones there in order to get to the final four.
LIN: All right. Next one up, St. Louis, Kentucky, Gonzaga, a nice Cinderella story there from before.
SMITH: It is. And, of course, Kentucky deserves the number one seed having won the regular season and the tournament. They certainly are a threat for the final four and the national championship.
LIN: Wasn't there some talk that Gonzaga would get a number one seed?
SMITH: With whom? I couldn't hear that.
LIN: I said that wasn't there some talk that Gonzaga would get a number one seed?
SMITH: Yes, I think I heard (ph) them only. They are certainly capable. I think we all admire what Mark has done with that team. But I do think that based on their schedule, it's a thing they always find. It's hard to say, we have a tough schedule, but they really are capable.
LIN: All right. Then out west, Stanford, well deserved.
SMITH: What a great year. They probably don't want to play in the east, but Stanford had a great, great year. Extremely capable. I think the committee really did an excellent job in picking the number one seeds. Now all the others will try to prove they're wrong.
LIN: Any Cinderella stories you're expecting this time around?
SMITH: That's what makes it great. That's why we have CBS's has work so hard for this tournament because everyone kind of cheers for at least one or two upsets early and, obviously, it has happened and probably will happen again.
LIN: You have any picks for the final four yourself?
SMITH: Four seeds are hard to say no to, but there will probably be three of them there in the end.
LIN: Were you disappointed that Washington didn't make it?
SMITH: No, Washington came on strong, but they lost five games early at one time, and in the conference, but they sure came on strong and are capable.
LIN: What the heck happened to your Tarheels, Coach?
SMITH: We'll be there. We're young and maybe not this year, but who knows. We have a great coach in Roy Williams. Well, the best in my opinion, and from then on, I think these young guys, they've had every game but two have been down to the last minute, or with three or four more possessions, they could have had two losses and a number one seed.
LIN: Well, my bruins are --
SMITH: The worst part is to play Air Force. I coached there, too. But they have a marvelous (UNINTELLIGIBLE) offense and the game will be in the 50s. That's hard for a team to speed them up.
LIN: My Bruins are rebuilding as well, so...
SMITH: They are.
LIN: We're in it together.
SMITH: They'll be back.
LIN: So we hope. Thanks so much, Coach Smith, always great to see you. Looks like an exciting season.
SMITH: It surely will be.
LIN: Fire officials say it could take days to discover what sparked a four-alarm fire that destroyed the oldest black Baptist church in Pittsburgh. Parishioners watched in horror yesterday as the 131-year-old church burned to the ground. Two firefighters died, 31 were wounded. Today the community is vowing to rebuild.
Adora Udoji joins us live from Pittsburgh. It's great to have an inspiring story of hope Adora, especially after an inspiring sports story there with Coach Dean Smith. It's a tough transition to make.
ADORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good evening Carol. Indeed, this is a very determined group. The folks who belong to the Ebenezer Baptist Church here in Pittsburgh, as you said, the oldest black church in the city, 131 years old.
They are taking away bits of it piece by piece now, not wanting it to pose a danger to anyone. Really, though, we talked to many of those who attend this church and they said they were most concerned today. Their thoughts were most on those firefighters who lost their lives yesterday. Two veteran Pittsburgh firefighters , in their early 50s were actually crushed to death in the church yesterday when it was -- they were fighting the fire. So many of the members of this congregation today saying their thoughts are with their families.
But also today, they were meeting, worshiping at a nearby church that opened their doors to them today, and they talk a lot about rebuilding. They talked about the legacy of this church. Been in many families for five, six, seven decades, in this exact place. So they are saying that they have to rebuild. That, in fact, tomorrow morning they are going to sit down and start planning and also today, there was several other churches who gave donations, wanting to help the process along for turning the corner on this terrible tragedy here at Ebenezer Baptist church.
But, again, many, many members of the congregation saying today was really a time to send their thoughts and prayers out the families of the two firefighters who were killed here yesterday. Carol?
LIN: Yes, it's tough to see those bulldozers move in behind you Adora. Thank you very much.
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