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Two U.S. Soldiers Killed Overnight in Iraq; NATO Peacekeeping Troops Step Up Security in Kosovo

Aired March 21, 2004 - 07:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


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ERICA HILL, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody, to CNN SUNDAY MORNING. I'm Erica Hill.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Kyra Phillips. That story in a minute, but first, the headlines at this hour.

Two U.S. soldiers killed in a rocket attack in the Iraqi town of Fallujah overnight. A military spokesperson says that insurgents fired at least five rockets on a U.S. troop position near the city west of Baghdad. Five soldiers and a sailor were wounded in that attack.

NATO peacekeeping troops step up security in Kosovo. They're hoping to prevent unrest at the funerals of two boys whose deaths sparked a new outbreak of violence. The drowning deaths of the two ethnic Albanian boys triggered clashes between ethnic Albanians and Serbs. It was the worst violence since the 1999 war.

And there you have it, smoke and ashes now. Rocks and rubble, Veterans Stadium blasted into an awesome oblivion. The implosion of the former home of the Phillies and Eagles of Philadelphia happened just minutes ago. Actually, about a half an hour ago. It was set off by 1.5 tons of explosives.

Now when Veterans Stadium opened in 1971, it was among the largest ballparks ever built. And at a total cost of $50 million, it was also one of the most expensive at the time. The site will become a parking lot for the news sports complex next door.

One year after the start of the Iraq War, anti-war protesters in the U.S. are calling on President Bush to bring the troops home. Millions of people took part in similar rallies around the world.

CNN's Alina Cho reports from New York.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If tragedy breeds activism, then meet Sue Nederer. Nederer was quiet about her opposition to the war in Iraq until last month, when her son Seth died in a bomb blast south of Baghdad.

SUE NEDERER, MOTHER OF SOLDIER: I've lost not only my child, I lost my best friend.

CHO: The 24-year old was a member of Fort Drumm's Tenth Mountain Division and was married just five days before shipping out.

NEDERER: My son is gone. You can't bring my son back. I want his men and his battalion to know, I'm fighting for them.

CHO: Nederer was one of tens of thousands of protesters lining the streets of New York for blocks Saturday. The largely peaceful rally drew the likes of Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, and was one of more than 250 protests held around the country, marking the first anniversary of the war, a conflict that to date has killed more than 500 U.S. troops.

(on camera): One year later, war opponents in general and military families in particular are organizing at rallies like these.

(voice-over): Among those families, mothers like Mildred McHugh, whose son is serving in Iraq.

MILDRED MCHUGH, SON IS SERVING IN IRAQ: I just feel so let down by this administration.

CHO: This man served two tours in Vietnam.

CARL SVENSEN, VIETNAM VETERAN: There's an omission of the truth. And then there's a lie. This is an outright lie.

CHO: President Bush told a crowd in Orlando, Florida the war was just.

BUSH: The dictator chose defiance. And the dictator today sits in a prison cell.

CHO: But for mothers like Sue Nederer...

NEDERER: If I'm doing this for nothing, then my son really has died in vain.

CHO: She just wants to know that in some small way, she's making a difference.

Alina Cho, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: Many of those demonstrations were accompanied by smaller gatherings of Bush supporters.

Now for a look at a local hero, one restaurant owner in Washington, D.C. is providing wounded veterans with a place to gather and enjoy more than just a good meal.

Here's our CNN's Lisa Sylvester with that story.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HAL KOSTER, RESTAURANT OWNER: How are you doing tonight? LISA SYLVESTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hal Koster, the owner of Fran O'Briens in Washington, D.C. thought a decent meal was the least he could do for the soldiers injured in Iraq and Afghanistan. So he started the Friday Suppers last October. Hal can relate to what they've been through. He's a Vietnam Vet.

KOSTER: We're just making sure that these guys are treated a little better than we were when we got home. That's all.

SYLVESTER: When the dinners first started, only one guy showed up. The next week a couple more. Now they regularly feed more than 40 people. Even the occasional celebrity shows up.

(on camera): These soldiers appreciate not having to eat hospital food one night out of the week. But what they really enjoy is talking to others, who understand what they're going through.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everyone enjoys themselves over here. And I mean, everybody loves it here. Their morale is really good.

SYLVESTER (voice-over): Staff Sergeant Daniel Metzdorf lost his leg when a bomb detonated southwest of Baghdad in late January. He's grateful to be alive. Three other soldiers died that day.

STAFF SGT. DANIEL METZDORF, U.S. ARMY: I lost my limb, but not -- that's nothing. The hospital's given me a brand new leg, you know, that's -- you know, it's small injury being compared to what some of these guys have gone through.

SYLVESTER: Alex Leonard's convoy was attacked in Iraq. The humvee he was driving was hit by a roadside bomb. When he looked down, he was missing his right leg.

SPEC. ALEX LEONARD, U.S. ARMY: Actually, I'm glad it was me other than one of the other guys that we were with.

SYLVESTER: These soldiers have no regrets.

METZDORF: They came and asked me if I had one wish, my one wish would be go back over with my soldiers in Iraq and just do what I love doing.

SYLVESTER: Their brush with death makes them cherish the things that matter. Their love for their country, their love for their families, and the companionship of good friends.

Lisa Sylvester, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HILL: It is one of the newest trends in travel, renting exotic luxury homes instead of staying in expensive hotels, but is it for you? Find out in the next hour of CNN SATURDAY (sic) MORNING.

Then at 9:30 Eastern, college spring break without the beer kegs. A group of students decides instead to see what it's like to be homeless. And then at 9:45, this carb thing is so confusing. What is low carb, reduced carb, plain old carb free. We don't know either, so we're going to ask the doctor from every university to sort it all out for us.

Up next, though, George Bush makes it official. He is running for president, while John Kerry takes a break on the slopes in Idaho. We're talking politics next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HILL: You might say this year's presidential race is a little like a reality show. In Florida, thousands of loyal followers cheer on their man, President Bush, as he officially kicks off his campaign. In his speech in Orlando, the president touted his version of a current economic realities.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Oh, I know there's some economic pessimists that refuse to accept good news about our economy, but I'm optimistic. I tell you why. I know what we've overcome. I've seen the spirit of the American people. I've seen Americans overcome economic challenges. And because of good policies, and the hard work of the American people, our economy is strong and it is growing stronger.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HILL: And the man who most wants President Bush voted out of office disagreeing. A spokesman for Senator John Kerry said, "the economy is in shambles, and that "these guys have done nothing but lose jobs."

The Republican -- show of political strength in Florida was, of course, just one of the many political moments of the week. Here to talk about some of the others is Andrea Seabrook. She's a congressional reporter with NPR.

Good to have you back with us this morning.

ANDREA SEABROOK, NPR, CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER: Hello, good morning. How are you?

HILL: I'm doing well. It was a big week for politics. A couple of big steps for both candidates out there. Talk to us a little bit about what you say were two big blunders for each candidate?

SEABROOK: Well, starting with a blunder that happened not quite this week, but just at the end of last week, and that -- and then it just the echoes of it reverberated throughout this week, was the Bush administration's coming this close to naming a manufacturing czar finally. It had waited for months. Finally found someone it liked. Leaked the name to the press. And it turns out that that name, his name is Anthony Rimondo, Nebraska businessman, was a man who people found out had laid off some American workers in the last couple of years and opened a plant in China. That was a blunder in terms of political vetting. It was just a loose -- you could tell it was sort of a loosened grip on the information leaving the White House. And so, that was a big one now.

But there was a big Kerry blunder as well. It's not just the Bush administration. The Kerry campaign was responding to attacks on Kerry not voting for the $87 billion package of funding for Iraq and Afghanistan last fall. He voted no on that, after having voted for the war. And the Bush administration claims he voted to send the troops to war and then didn't give them the money that they needed.

Well, he -- the Kerry campaign came out with a statement saying he did vote for it, before he voted against it. This is exactly playing into what the Republicans expect the Kerry campaign to be like. They -- you know, it's a waffling answer. It's a -- it's fraught with subtleties that the average voter is not going to be able to understand.

And so, you -- both of those things have been picked up by the opposite campaign, and you know, dragged all over the press. I mean, even yesterday, you had, you know, Democrats taking on the manufacturing czar thing, and President Bush himself pointing to Kerry's waffling again.

HILL: So a couple of things -- blunders that aren't going to go away. But some other important developments this week. We have about 30 seconds left. Two big speeches, Vice President Cheney and Senator Kerry. Quickly give us a synopsis and what they mean?

SEABROOK: Well, it's very interesting that Cheney's speech was really on the offense. It really took that game straight to the court. It went on the offense. It picked at Kerry and his policies right out.

And it turned Kerry's speech, which was expected to be sort of a foreign policy on the war speech to veterans, it took his speech and turned it around to the defense. He ended up having to respond to a lot of the things that Cheney and the Bush campaign has been saying.

HILL: Well, not the first back and forth that we're going to see. We know it's keeping you busy...

SEABROOK: No, no.

HILL: ...and we appreciate you joining us.

SEABROOK: My pleasure, thank you.

HILL: Andrea Seabrook, congressional correspondent for NPR.

Now on Tuesday, the government commission looking into the attacks of 9/11 will likely get an earful from a former counter terrorism official in the Bush administration. Richard Clark has harsh words for his former boss. In a new book titled, "Against All Enemies," which goes on sale tomorrow, tonight on "60 MINUTES," Clark says the White House could have done much more to stop al Qaeda. In the interview, Clark says, "I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it, he ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11."

Now the White House countering, saying it's not true. National Security Council Steven Hadley tells "60 MINUTES" "the president put us on battle stations. He asked the intelligence community look hard, see if we're missing something about a threat to the homeland."

PHILLIPS: Well endangered species are getting a better chance of survival.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here are cells of a European bison.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: But is cloning the way to go? We'll take you to the frozen San Diego Zoo next. And in the next hour of CNN SUNDAY MORNING, want to make your next vacation really, really unforgettable? Well, check out the new trends where money can buy you everything.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HILL: We're going to take you now to San Diego, where the world famous zoo is onto something new, a chance to save endangered species by cloning them.

Here's CNN's Miguel Marquez.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The San Diego Zoo, it is home to many of the world's most exotic animals. Among the pandas and the rhinos, there is an endangered bovine species called the Bangtang.

OLIVER RYDER, DR., GENETICIST, SAN DIEGO ZOO: The Bangtang is a kind of wild cattle from Asia.

MARQUEZ: Jehava, as he's called, is a native of the Indonesian Island of Java. But what makes this 10 month old special is that he is a clone. Skin cells of Jehava's donor were inserted into the empty egg of a normal domestic cow. Now the hope is Jehava will reproduce.

RYDER: He's literally a conduit from a richer genetic past to the genetic present.

MARQUEZ: Jehava's special in another way. He is a carbon copy of another Bangtang that died almost 25 years ago.

RYDER: We have the cells of over 6,800 animals in this collection. MARQUEZ: Since 1975, San Diego Zoo has collected and stored live cells of thousands of animals. It is a frozen zoo. About 400 species of animals suspended in liquid nitrogen.

RYDER: Here are cells of a European bison. Here are cells of a brush mouse. Here are cells from timber wolf.

MARQUEZ: The San Diego Zoo is one of a few places worldwide that maintains a catalogue of frozen animal cells. But researchers stress the only way to ensure survival is through maintaining their native habitats.

Cloning is seen as a last ditch effort to stave off extinction.

GAYLENE THOMAS, SAN DIEGO ZOO: He is getting along with the ladies. You can definitely see a preference for the female.

MARQUEZ: Although Jehava is still too young to mate, Gaylene Thomas, who has been caring for San Diego Zoo's Bangtang for eight years is hopeful.

THOMAS: He is young. He's still not quite full grown. He probably is going to get about double the size he is now at least. So I think he's about right where he should be for a young male Bangtang.

MARQUEZ (on camera): Zoo officials hope Jehava will start breeding in the next year. But even if he does, scientists won't know whether this cloning experiment is a success until they know whether his offspring are healthy.

Miguel Marquez, CNN, San Diego.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: Well maybe one day we can sort of design our own animals. Yes, I grew up going to that zoo.

HILL: You can design your own zoo at this point, I think.

PHILLIPS: That's true.

HILL: If it works.

PHILLIPS: Pick your animals. All right.

Well, are you one of nearly 50 percent of Americans using herbs in your diet? Find out what's safe and whether you really need dietary supplements. In case you missed our "WEEKEND HOUSECALL" yesterday, get the answers to your questions today in about 40 minutes.

HILL: And no costume malfunctions for Janet Jackson last night as she was recognized for outstanding career achievement. Get the scoop from the Soul Train next on CNN SUNDAY MORNING.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) PHILLIPS: Well, Outkast comes out on top, at the 18th annual Soul Train Awards. The Grammy winning duo took home two awards last night, including Best R&B, soul, or rap album. Other winners included Beyonce, Alicia Keyes, who also hosted the ceremony. And Janet Jackson thanked the audience for standing by her during the uproar over the Super Bowl half time show.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JANET JACKSON, MUSICIAN: You've been there for me during the good times as well as the bad. And you've lifted me up with your love. Your loving support has always been a great source of comfort, especially in these last few weeks.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: Well, Jackson was honored with a lifetime achievement award. The Soul Train Awards celebrate artists in R&B, hip hop, rap and gospel.

HILL: And we're going to take a look now at your Sunday weather. Hopefully for most parts of the country, a nice Sunday.

(WEATHER REPORT)

HILL: Let's do a check now of the top stories making headlines at this hour. At least five Palestinians, including some Hamas militants are dead after Israeli troops raided an area in southern Gaza. Gun battles broke out between the Israeli forces and Palestinians. The army said the sweeps were aimed at stopping terrorism.

And back here in the States, first you see it, and there it goes. Soon you won't. Like a stack if dominoes, Philadelphia's Veteran Stadium implodes into an awesome oblivion. Once cleared of the rocks and rubble, the site will become a new parking lot for the new sports complex next door.

PHILLIPS: All right, the ad lib question of the day. Morning e- mail, how would the cost of a gallon of gas have to go before you'd buy a hybrid? All right, we're going to read some of those e-mails.

First one coming from Randy, Crosshill, South Carolina. "I would rather have a lupo diesel sold by Volkswagen in Europe. It sells for less than a hybrid and gets higher mileage than a hybrid. 90 miles per gallon. It also pollutes less. And any diesel sold here now. Funny thing is Volkswagen will not sell it here."

I wonder what it looks like.

HILL: I know, I'd be interested to see that, too.

PHILLIPS: Yes, let's check it out.

HILL: We know what the Toyota Prius looks like. This e-mail from anonymous somewhere out there, but we're happy you sent it in. "I just purchased a hybrid, a Toyota Prius. Pulled into a gas station, topped off the tank for $4.75." And tells us they "should only have to fill the tank once a month. Now that's economical!!

I would say so. Can you imagine only filling up the tank once a month.

PHILLIPS: Could actually pay cash and not just a credit card.

HILL: You could. You don't need the credit card anymore.

PHILLIPS: The next hour of CNN SUNDAY MORNING begins right now.

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Peacekeeping Troops Step Up Security in Kosovo>


Aired March 21, 2004 - 07:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
ERICA HILL, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody, to CNN SUNDAY MORNING. I'm Erica Hill.
KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Kyra Phillips. That story in a minute, but first, the headlines at this hour.

Two U.S. soldiers killed in a rocket attack in the Iraqi town of Fallujah overnight. A military spokesperson says that insurgents fired at least five rockets on a U.S. troop position near the city west of Baghdad. Five soldiers and a sailor were wounded in that attack.

NATO peacekeeping troops step up security in Kosovo. They're hoping to prevent unrest at the funerals of two boys whose deaths sparked a new outbreak of violence. The drowning deaths of the two ethnic Albanian boys triggered clashes between ethnic Albanians and Serbs. It was the worst violence since the 1999 war.

And there you have it, smoke and ashes now. Rocks and rubble, Veterans Stadium blasted into an awesome oblivion. The implosion of the former home of the Phillies and Eagles of Philadelphia happened just minutes ago. Actually, about a half an hour ago. It was set off by 1.5 tons of explosives.

Now when Veterans Stadium opened in 1971, it was among the largest ballparks ever built. And at a total cost of $50 million, it was also one of the most expensive at the time. The site will become a parking lot for the news sports complex next door.

One year after the start of the Iraq War, anti-war protesters in the U.S. are calling on President Bush to bring the troops home. Millions of people took part in similar rallies around the world.

CNN's Alina Cho reports from New York.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If tragedy breeds activism, then meet Sue Nederer. Nederer was quiet about her opposition to the war in Iraq until last month, when her son Seth died in a bomb blast south of Baghdad.

SUE NEDERER, MOTHER OF SOLDIER: I've lost not only my child, I lost my best friend.

CHO: The 24-year old was a member of Fort Drumm's Tenth Mountain Division and was married just five days before shipping out.

NEDERER: My son is gone. You can't bring my son back. I want his men and his battalion to know, I'm fighting for them.

CHO: Nederer was one of tens of thousands of protesters lining the streets of New York for blocks Saturday. The largely peaceful rally drew the likes of Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich, and was one of more than 250 protests held around the country, marking the first anniversary of the war, a conflict that to date has killed more than 500 U.S. troops.

(on camera): One year later, war opponents in general and military families in particular are organizing at rallies like these.

(voice-over): Among those families, mothers like Mildred McHugh, whose son is serving in Iraq.

MILDRED MCHUGH, SON IS SERVING IN IRAQ: I just feel so let down by this administration.

CHO: This man served two tours in Vietnam.

CARL SVENSEN, VIETNAM VETERAN: There's an omission of the truth. And then there's a lie. This is an outright lie.

CHO: President Bush told a crowd in Orlando, Florida the war was just.

BUSH: The dictator chose defiance. And the dictator today sits in a prison cell.

CHO: But for mothers like Sue Nederer...

NEDERER: If I'm doing this for nothing, then my son really has died in vain.

CHO: She just wants to know that in some small way, she's making a difference.

Alina Cho, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

PHILLIPS: Many of those demonstrations were accompanied by smaller gatherings of Bush supporters.

Now for a look at a local hero, one restaurant owner in Washington, D.C. is providing wounded veterans with a place to gather and enjoy more than just a good meal.

Here's our CNN's Lisa Sylvester with that story.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

HAL KOSTER, RESTAURANT OWNER: How are you doing tonight? LISA SYLVESTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hal Koster, the owner of Fran O'Briens in Washington, D.C. thought a decent meal was the least he could do for the soldiers injured in Iraq and Afghanistan. So he started the Friday Suppers last October. Hal can relate to what they've been through. He's a Vietnam Vet.

KOSTER: We're just making sure that these guys are treated a little better than we were when we got home. That's all.

SYLVESTER: When the dinners first started, only one guy showed up. The next week a couple more. Now they regularly feed more than 40 people. Even the occasional celebrity shows up.

(on camera): These soldiers appreciate not having to eat hospital food one night out of the week. But what they really enjoy is talking to others, who understand what they're going through.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everyone enjoys themselves over here. And I mean, everybody loves it here. Their morale is really good.

SYLVESTER (voice-over): Staff Sergeant Daniel Metzdorf lost his leg when a bomb detonated southwest of Baghdad in late January. He's grateful to be alive. Three other soldiers died that day.

STAFF SGT. DANIEL METZDORF, U.S. ARMY: I lost my limb, but not -- that's nothing. The hospital's given me a brand new leg, you know, that's -- you know, it's small injury being compared to what some of these guys have gone through.

SYLVESTER: Alex Leonard's convoy was attacked in Iraq. The humvee he was driving was hit by a roadside bomb. When he looked down, he was missing his right leg.

SPEC. ALEX LEONARD, U.S. ARMY: Actually, I'm glad it was me other than one of the other guys that we were with.

SYLVESTER: These soldiers have no regrets.

METZDORF: They came and asked me if I had one wish, my one wish would be go back over with my soldiers in Iraq and just do what I love doing.

SYLVESTER: Their brush with death makes them cherish the things that matter. Their love for their country, their love for their families, and the companionship of good friends.

Lisa Sylvester, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HILL: It is one of the newest trends in travel, renting exotic luxury homes instead of staying in expensive hotels, but is it for you? Find out in the next hour of CNN SATURDAY (sic) MORNING.

Then at 9:30 Eastern, college spring break without the beer kegs. A group of students decides instead to see what it's like to be homeless. And then at 9:45, this carb thing is so confusing. What is low carb, reduced carb, plain old carb free. We don't know either, so we're going to ask the doctor from every university to sort it all out for us.

Up next, though, George Bush makes it official. He is running for president, while John Kerry takes a break on the slopes in Idaho. We're talking politics next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HILL: You might say this year's presidential race is a little like a reality show. In Florida, thousands of loyal followers cheer on their man, President Bush, as he officially kicks off his campaign. In his speech in Orlando, the president touted his version of a current economic realities.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Oh, I know there's some economic pessimists that refuse to accept good news about our economy, but I'm optimistic. I tell you why. I know what we've overcome. I've seen the spirit of the American people. I've seen Americans overcome economic challenges. And because of good policies, and the hard work of the American people, our economy is strong and it is growing stronger.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HILL: And the man who most wants President Bush voted out of office disagreeing. A spokesman for Senator John Kerry said, "the economy is in shambles, and that "these guys have done nothing but lose jobs."

The Republican -- show of political strength in Florida was, of course, just one of the many political moments of the week. Here to talk about some of the others is Andrea Seabrook. She's a congressional reporter with NPR.

Good to have you back with us this morning.

ANDREA SEABROOK, NPR, CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER: Hello, good morning. How are you?

HILL: I'm doing well. It was a big week for politics. A couple of big steps for both candidates out there. Talk to us a little bit about what you say were two big blunders for each candidate?

SEABROOK: Well, starting with a blunder that happened not quite this week, but just at the end of last week, and that -- and then it just the echoes of it reverberated throughout this week, was the Bush administration's coming this close to naming a manufacturing czar finally. It had waited for months. Finally found someone it liked. Leaked the name to the press. And it turns out that that name, his name is Anthony Rimondo, Nebraska businessman, was a man who people found out had laid off some American workers in the last couple of years and opened a plant in China. That was a blunder in terms of political vetting. It was just a loose -- you could tell it was sort of a loosened grip on the information leaving the White House. And so, that was a big one now.

But there was a big Kerry blunder as well. It's not just the Bush administration. The Kerry campaign was responding to attacks on Kerry not voting for the $87 billion package of funding for Iraq and Afghanistan last fall. He voted no on that, after having voted for the war. And the Bush administration claims he voted to send the troops to war and then didn't give them the money that they needed.

Well, he -- the Kerry campaign came out with a statement saying he did vote for it, before he voted against it. This is exactly playing into what the Republicans expect the Kerry campaign to be like. They -- you know, it's a waffling answer. It's a -- it's fraught with subtleties that the average voter is not going to be able to understand.

And so, you -- both of those things have been picked up by the opposite campaign, and you know, dragged all over the press. I mean, even yesterday, you had, you know, Democrats taking on the manufacturing czar thing, and President Bush himself pointing to Kerry's waffling again.

HILL: So a couple of things -- blunders that aren't going to go away. But some other important developments this week. We have about 30 seconds left. Two big speeches, Vice President Cheney and Senator Kerry. Quickly give us a synopsis and what they mean?

SEABROOK: Well, it's very interesting that Cheney's speech was really on the offense. It really took that game straight to the court. It went on the offense. It picked at Kerry and his policies right out.

And it turned Kerry's speech, which was expected to be sort of a foreign policy on the war speech to veterans, it took his speech and turned it around to the defense. He ended up having to respond to a lot of the things that Cheney and the Bush campaign has been saying.

HILL: Well, not the first back and forth that we're going to see. We know it's keeping you busy...

SEABROOK: No, no.

HILL: ...and we appreciate you joining us.

SEABROOK: My pleasure, thank you.

HILL: Andrea Seabrook, congressional correspondent for NPR.

Now on Tuesday, the government commission looking into the attacks of 9/11 will likely get an earful from a former counter terrorism official in the Bush administration. Richard Clark has harsh words for his former boss. In a new book titled, "Against All Enemies," which goes on sale tomorrow, tonight on "60 MINUTES," Clark says the White House could have done much more to stop al Qaeda. In the interview, Clark says, "I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism. He ignored it, he ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11."

Now the White House countering, saying it's not true. National Security Council Steven Hadley tells "60 MINUTES" "the president put us on battle stations. He asked the intelligence community look hard, see if we're missing something about a threat to the homeland."

PHILLIPS: Well endangered species are getting a better chance of survival.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here are cells of a European bison.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PHILLIPS: But is cloning the way to go? We'll take you to the frozen San Diego Zoo next. And in the next hour of CNN SUNDAY MORNING, want to make your next vacation really, really unforgettable? Well, check out the new trends where money can buy you everything.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HILL: We're going to take you now to San Diego, where the world famous zoo is onto something new, a chance to save endangered species by cloning them.

Here's CNN's Miguel Marquez.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The San Diego Zoo, it is home to many of the world's most exotic animals. Among the pandas and the rhinos, there is an endangered bovine species called the Bangtang.

OLIVER RYDER, DR., GENETICIST, SAN DIEGO ZOO: The Bangtang is a kind of wild cattle from Asia.

MARQUEZ: Jehava, as he's called, is a native of the Indonesian Island of Java. But what makes this 10 month old special is that he is a clone. Skin cells of Jehava's donor were inserted into the empty egg of a normal domestic cow. Now the hope is Jehava will reproduce.

RYDER: He's literally a conduit from a richer genetic past to the genetic present.

MARQUEZ: Jehava's special in another way. He is a carbon copy of another Bangtang that died almost 25 years ago.

RYDER: We have the cells of over 6,800 animals in this collection. MARQUEZ: Since 1975, San Diego Zoo has collected and stored live cells of thousands of animals. It is a frozen zoo. About 400 species of animals suspended in liquid nitrogen.

RYDER: Here are cells of a European bison. Here are cells of a brush mouse. Here are cells from timber wolf.

MARQUEZ: The San Diego Zoo is one of a few places worldwide that maintains a catalogue of frozen animal cells. But researchers stress the only way to ensure survival is through maintaining their native habitats.

Cloning is seen as a last ditch effort to stave off extinction.

GAYLENE THOMAS, SAN DIEGO ZOO: He is getting along with the ladies. You can definitely see a preference for the female.

MARQUEZ: Although Jehava is still too young to mate, Gaylene Thomas, who has been caring for San Diego Zoo's Bangtang for eight years is hopeful.

THOMAS: He is young. He's still not quite full grown. He probably is going to get about double the size he is now at least. So I think he's about right where he should be for a young male Bangtang.

MARQUEZ (on camera): Zoo officials hope Jehava will start breeding in the next year. But even if he does, scientists won't know whether this cloning experiment is a success until they know whether his offspring are healthy.

Miguel Marquez, CNN, San Diego.

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PHILLIPS: Well maybe one day we can sort of design our own animals. Yes, I grew up going to that zoo.

HILL: You can design your own zoo at this point, I think.

PHILLIPS: That's true.

HILL: If it works.

PHILLIPS: Pick your animals. All right.

Well, are you one of nearly 50 percent of Americans using herbs in your diet? Find out what's safe and whether you really need dietary supplements. In case you missed our "WEEKEND HOUSECALL" yesterday, get the answers to your questions today in about 40 minutes.

HILL: And no costume malfunctions for Janet Jackson last night as she was recognized for outstanding career achievement. Get the scoop from the Soul Train next on CNN SUNDAY MORNING.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) PHILLIPS: Well, Outkast comes out on top, at the 18th annual Soul Train Awards. The Grammy winning duo took home two awards last night, including Best R&B, soul, or rap album. Other winners included Beyonce, Alicia Keyes, who also hosted the ceremony. And Janet Jackson thanked the audience for standing by her during the uproar over the Super Bowl half time show.

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JANET JACKSON, MUSICIAN: You've been there for me during the good times as well as the bad. And you've lifted me up with your love. Your loving support has always been a great source of comfort, especially in these last few weeks.

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PHILLIPS: Well, Jackson was honored with a lifetime achievement award. The Soul Train Awards celebrate artists in R&B, hip hop, rap and gospel.

HILL: And we're going to take a look now at your Sunday weather. Hopefully for most parts of the country, a nice Sunday.

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HILL: Let's do a check now of the top stories making headlines at this hour. At least five Palestinians, including some Hamas militants are dead after Israeli troops raided an area in southern Gaza. Gun battles broke out between the Israeli forces and Palestinians. The army said the sweeps were aimed at stopping terrorism.

And back here in the States, first you see it, and there it goes. Soon you won't. Like a stack if dominoes, Philadelphia's Veteran Stadium implodes into an awesome oblivion. Once cleared of the rocks and rubble, the site will become a new parking lot for the new sports complex next door.

PHILLIPS: All right, the ad lib question of the day. Morning e- mail, how would the cost of a gallon of gas have to go before you'd buy a hybrid? All right, we're going to read some of those e-mails.

First one coming from Randy, Crosshill, South Carolina. "I would rather have a lupo diesel sold by Volkswagen in Europe. It sells for less than a hybrid and gets higher mileage than a hybrid. 90 miles per gallon. It also pollutes less. And any diesel sold here now. Funny thing is Volkswagen will not sell it here."

I wonder what it looks like.

HILL: I know, I'd be interested to see that, too.

PHILLIPS: Yes, let's check it out.

HILL: We know what the Toyota Prius looks like. This e-mail from anonymous somewhere out there, but we're happy you sent it in. "I just purchased a hybrid, a Toyota Prius. Pulled into a gas station, topped off the tank for $4.75." And tells us they "should only have to fill the tank once a month. Now that's economical!!

I would say so. Can you imagine only filling up the tank once a month.

PHILLIPS: Could actually pay cash and not just a credit card.

HILL: You could. You don't need the credit card anymore.

PHILLIPS: The next hour of CNN SUNDAY MORNING begins right now.

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