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Aired April 28, 2004 - 11:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: The California National Guard is ending patrols at the Golden Gate Bridge that it began shortly after 9/11. The U.S. Park Police, the Coast Guard, and the California Highway Patrol will now handle bridge security.
Comcast is bailing on Disney. The cable giant made a stunning $54 billion takeover bid for Disney in February, but Disney thumbed its nose at it, saying the offer was too low.

And Elton John saying viewer voting on "American Idol" is, quote, "incredibly racist." Three contestants widely considered to be the best recently ended up as the least favorable choices. All three are African-American.

It would appear that the Vietnam War is being refought in this current presidential race, as Democrat John Kerry and his allies grow increasingly angry about Republican attacks on his national defense record.

Judy Woodruff has our daily campaign update. She of course is in Washington D.C.

Judy, good morning.

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN ANCHOR: Hi there, Daryn.

Well, the Kerry campaign's official focus is jobs, as the candidate wraps up a three-day swing through hard-hit industrial state. But Kerry's counterattacks on the Bush/Cheney campaign are getting more of the media attention. Yesterday, the senator told an Ohio newspaper that a lot of fellow veterans are angry that his military record is being questioned by a president who, quote, "can't account for his own National Guard service," and a vice president who got a draft deferment. And at a fund-raiser in Cleveland, Kerry complained about GOP scare tactics.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They want you to believe that John Kerry, who put the uniform of his country on voluntarily, who felt an obligation to go to Vietnam when so many others didn't, who stood up and fought for our country, they want you to believe that somehow I'm not strong for the defense of our nation. Well, I've defended our nation, and I'm prepared to stand up and defend it as president and forever...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WOODRUFF: The Bush camp contends that it has questioned Kerry's Senate record on national defense, and not his Vietnam War service.

Presidential politics also spilling out onto the Senate floor with Republican and Democrats rising to launch partisan attacks. This morning, New Jersey Democrat Frank Lautenberg went after the president, and other members of the administration and the Senate, much to the dismay of Arizona Republican Senator John McCain.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. FRANK LAUTENBERG (D), NEW JERSEY: Chicken hawks -- they shriek like a hawk. They have the backbone of a chicken. We know who the chicken hawks are. They talk tough on national defense and military issues, and cast dispersion on others. When it was their turn to serve, where were they? AWOL.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Senator Kerry, the Democrat nominee, says we have to stay the course. He may have different views as to exactly how to do that than the president and the administration. But we're in agreement.

And meanwhile, what are we doing here on the floor of the Senate? We're attacking the president's credentials, because of his service, or lack of service, in a war that ended 30 years ago, more than 30 years ago. You know, I think that's wrong. I wish we'd stop it. I wish we would just stop.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WOODRUFF: Those statements on the Senate floor just within the last hour. Well, Senator Arlen Specter survived a close call, and he'll get a shot at a fifth term. With most of the votes counted, the Pennsylvania Republican beat back his challenger, Republican Congressman Pat Toomey, 51 percent to 49 percent, in yesterday's GOP primary. Toomey had argued that Specter as not conservative enough. Specter, who was endorsed by President Bush, will now face Democratic Congressman Joe Heffle (ph) in the November election.

Well, I'll be talking with Senator John McCain who we just heard from this afternoon. Plus with the escalating violence in Iraq, how do Iraqi themselves feel about their current situation? Is life better without Saddam Hussein? we'll unveil results from our first ever poll of the entire country of Iraq, when I go inside politics at 3:30 p.m. Eastern, 12:30 pacific.

Now, let's go right back to Daryn in Atlanta.

KAGAN: Judy, thank you. Look forward to seeing more of you later today. Health news is ahead. At best, it can be difficult to deal with. At worse, it can be deadly. Up next Dr. Sanjay Gupta takes a hard look at postpartum depression, its causes, its treatments. Plus, we will be talking with an expert.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Let's go back to one of our top stories, arguments at the Supreme Court this morning over U.S. citizens who have been designated as enemy combatants. Should they have access to the legal system or held indefinitely for the open-ended war on terror? Let's get audio now that we're hearing from the Supreme Court.

Our Sean Callebs is monitoring that from Washington D.C. -- Sean.

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Daryn, exactly going on right now, questions over personal freedom are colliding with presidential power and national security.

As you mentioned, right now, the high court is hearing two cases, two separate cases at the Supreme Court, intertwined in the war on terror, and two U.S. citizens the administration is labeling as enemy combatants, but neither has been charged with a crime.

The first case involved Yasser Hamdi. Argument wrapped up there a short time ago. Hamdi man was born in North Carolina, but raised primarily in Egypt. He was seized in Afghanistan. The U.S. maintained he was fighting for the Taliban.

Here is the heart of the case: the Bush administration says it has the authority to hold enemy combatants indefinitely without charges, and calls Hamdi a classic battlefield detainee.

Hamdi's attorney, however, disagrees.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Petitioner Hamdi is a citizen held over two years in the United States, with no opportunity to be heard as to the facts on which his detention is based. Mr. Hamdi makes two claims -- first, the fourth circuit wrongly prevented Hamdi in these habeas proceeding from being heard as to the facts of the case, on grounds that allowing him to be heard will interfere with executive power. Second, that the fourth circuit erred in finding even on the one-sided record that's before this court that his detention is authorized by law.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CALLEBS: After Hamdi was captured, he was first kept at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, with other Taliban detainees. Hamdi was moved and held in isolation at a Navy brig in North Charleston, Carolina after the military determined he was a U.S. citizen.

Arguments are being heard right now in the other Supreme Court case, this one involving Jose Padilla, who is being held in the same brig. Padilla grew up in Chicago, joined a gang, then eventually converted to Islam and traveled the Middle East.

Two years ago, he was arrested at Chicago's O'Hare Airport. The government says he was plotting terrorist to set off a so-called dirty bomb, a radioactive device. Like Hamdi, Padilla has not been formally charged with a crime, and had been denied access to an attorney until recently. Padilla's lawyers say he is being denied his right to a trial. A lower court agreed with Padilla's legal counsel. The administration says these cases are important, and say aggressive efforts in the war on terror will be hurt if the high court rules against them -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Sean Callebs, in D.C., thank you.

KAGAN: Along with the joy of new motherhood, sometimes there is sadness. More from our special series on newborns. Medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta explains some common causes of postpartum depression and how that's different from the baby blues.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Your bundle of joy has finally arrived, and you've just joined the new moms club. Well, get ready. You may be joining yet another, the baby blues club.

HEIDI MURKOFF, AUTHOR, "WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU'RE EXPECTING": With baby blues, you're weepy, you're sad, you are hormonal, you are feeling a little overwhelmed, and who can blame you. But you know, with a little TLC and a little extra rest, most blue moms start to feel relative in the pink within a couple of weeks or so.

GUPTA: But in 10 percent to 15 percent of new moms, the blues don't go away. They didn't for this mom.

SANDRA, POSTPARTUM MOM: A lot of anxiety, panic attacks, just feeling like I couldn't leave home, feeling like I was a little bit worthless, because here I had this beautiful, new baby, had a wonderful 3-year-old, and things, in my eyes, were just terrible.

GUPTA: Eventually, Sandra was diagnosed with postpartum depression, which is like any other major depression, except it usually starts sometime after the baby is born in the postpartum period.

SANDRA: I've never been depressed before in my life. I didn't know what I was experiencing was depression, really.

DR. DIANA DELL, DUKE UNIVERSITY: Easily half of women with postpartum depression have never been depressed before.

GUPTA: Symptoms of which can include hopelessness, anxiety, lack of interest in your baby, feelings of guilt of not being a good mother, and another important one, lack of sleep.

SANDRA: Not being able to sleep compounds some of that feelings that you are getting of hopelessness. How am I going to get up and do this, because you are physically tired and you are mentally exhausted.

GUPTA: Sandra sought professional help.

DR. ZACHARY STOWE, EMORY UNIVERSITY: I think that just letting them know that it can happen is the first step. And then if it does happen, letting them know that, in my opinion, it is one of the easiest things to treat that I have encountered in psychiatry.

GUPTA: Sandra went to therapy, got the advice and support from other moms and took anti-depression medication, which was safe, even though she was breast feeding.

SANDRA: You are much better off if you are -- if you see somebody, get some help, whether it's medication or not medication, because then that allows you to be better for your family, get your depression under control.

GUPTA: Good advice for any new mom.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: Our special series on newborns continues tomorrow. You're going to find out how soon your baby should be sleeping through the night. We are going to focus on sleep training.

Friday, how to cope with more than one bundle of joy. Advice on handling multiples.

You can get your "Daily Dose" of health news online. Log on to our Web site. That's at cnn.com/health.

Are you searching for a hot stock tip? How about Google? Goggle's got it. The Internet search giant about to go public. Millions are already lining up. Our tech guru Daniel Sieberg giving us a look coming up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Wanted to get you a little bit more information on postpartum depression that we just heard from Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Want to bring in one of the leading experts on postpartum depression. Dr. Zachary Stowe is director of the women's mental health program at Emory University right here in Atlanta.

Dr. Stowe, thanks for being with us.

DR. ZACHARY STOWE, EMORY UNIVERSITY: I appreciate you're having me.

KAGAN: We wanted to get some addition information including some new research that show there actually might be signs of postpartum depression prepartum, while a woman is still pregnant.

STOWE: Yes. Actually, in one of our most recent studies completed here in the Atlanta area, there's pretty good evidence that about 25 percent of women who actually then come in seeking treatment from postpartum depression had symptom onset before they ever delivered.

KAGAN: And what are those signs you should look for?

STOWE: Well the most common signs that we've seen really is an anxiety or an inability to be able to rest. You know, most pregnant women might be tired, things of this nature. But when given a chance to rest, they should be able to.

But in unable to rest, feeling anxious, not as excited or enthusiastic about the pregnancy as they had hoped or planned to be. Those should all be things that warrant further questions.

KAGAN: And what kind of treatment can you actually you get then when you're pregnant? There's so little you can take.

STOWE: Well, actually, that's a little bit of a misnomer. There's a very large growing database about the use of psychiatric treatments during pregnancy be it psychotherapy, anti-depressant medications. And to date, I would say the majority of those treatments are looking pretty good. Certainly looking better than the impact of the untreated illness.

KAGAN: OK, so we're looking before a woman has the baby and after. The importance of sleep. And I know there's a lot of mothers out there, there are a lot of mothers who are go you've got to be kidding. When are you supposed to get sleep?

STOWE: I think one of the issues there is that getting sleep when you have a newborn is a very difficult thing, particularly if you're trying to breast feed. I think that it's harder to get help with night duty.

I think some of the issues that really we haven't taught our young mothers as well is what we refer to as sleeping in shifts. Mom and Dad do not need to go to bed at the same time when you have a newborn. You simply offset that by two to three hour and the last person to bed gets that feeding.

Also, breast feeding. We can do something we refer to as the drive-through restaurant. Mother does not need to get up out of bed to breast feed the baby. Someone else can help with burping and the changing and those things. And all of those things can actually help with sleep.

KAGAN: Very good tips. Dr. Stowe, thank you for your time today.

STOWE: Thank you very much.

KAGAN: On to business news. For a giggle, have you ever tried to ogle Google? You'll get news about the Internet search engine's widely anticipated initial public offering. That's IPO, for those hip to the street. Well, Google's IPO could be the biggest thing since the tech bubble burst in 2000. It's expected this week. Our technology correspondent Daniel Sieberg to tell us more about how Google reshaped American culture.

DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT: And really became a verb, too, Daryn. The verb "to Google."

KAGAN: A personal question. Have you ever Googled yourself?

SIEBERG: I have Googled myself. People call that ego surfing.

(CROSSTALK)

SIEBERG: Yes, it has happened.

It did start spreading about five years ago, mainly by word of mouth. And it has turned into the world's largest search engine.

But beyond Google's technology, there's an feeling that it's changed the way people use the Internet, even the way people use their computers. So amidst all the hype around the IPO, we thought we'd take a look and see what makes Google tick.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can think of ogle as the bulletin board for the global village.

SIEBERG: Do you Google? These days it seems who doesn't. Google comes from G-O-O-G-O-L, a math term that means one followed by 100 zeros. It symbolizes the huge amount of data on the Internet. And its creators, Sergey Brin and Larry Page, two former Stanford students, are on a mission to organize all of it, from museum collection to Britney photos, even your home address.

PROF. JANET MURRAY, GEORGIA TECH: Everything about your life seems to be just one Google away.

SIEBERG (on camera): Remember card catalogs, the Dewy Decimal System, libraries? Well, not only did Google's founders find a way to search the billions of pages of information on the Internet in a fraction of the time, but they also made it easy to read, accurate and a little fun.

CHRIS SHERMAN, SEARCHENGINEWATCH.COM: Well, Google calls their headquarters the "Googleplex." And when you walk into the Googleplex, you immediately recognize that this is not just your ordinary corporation or computer place. Google has a grand piano in the lobby, for example. There are lava lamps all over the place. They play roller hockey in the parking lot.

SIEBERG (voice-over): And that sense of doing Googley things at their Mountainview, California office translates to their site. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, you know what I love the most? I love how they do little logos for Christmas and different activities, different holidays. They do little graphics and sort of make fun of their logo.

SIEBERG: And it's not just looking for things. Sometimes it's people.

MURRAY: I do the same thing with my daughter when she has a new boyfriend. One of the first things I do is put his name in that search engine and see what comes up. I try to say very subtlety, oh, how do you spell that, dear?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I never Googled myself. I'm afraid for what I might find.

SHERMAN: Google makes it as simple as sitting down, typing in a few words, and in most cases, it will actually give you a very good answer, and so I think that's the reason for its overwhelming popularity.

SIEBERG: Google still faces competition from the likes of Yahoo!, Altavista, Microsoft, and Askjeeves. Now it's branched out to include other functions, plus a Web-based e-mail service.

SHERMAN: In 50 years, they'd ultimately like to have Google be the same kind of computer that you see in Star Trek right now, where it's basically everywhere, you speak to it, it give you answers, and so on. Whether they actually reach that goal or not remains to be seen, but it shows you that their ambitions are certainly quite high.

SIEBERG: Want to know more? Well, you could always Google it.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SIEBERG: And Google, people do. There are about 250 million searches every day on Google, and they actually keep track of all them, and it's not slowing down at all. The fear from some analysts, though, is that if they go public, if they go with this IPO, they could lose some of their appeal to sort of the core group of technology people who got in on this early, that the sense of fun will be lost when you have to report a quarterly earnings report, and nothing sucks the life out of a company necessarily like the bottom line, when money becomes so important for people.

KAGAN: It looks like there's a lot to go around, a lot of money though.

Daniel Sieberg, thank you for that.

(STOCK MARKET UPDATE)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(WEATHER UPDATE) KAGAN: That's going to do it for me, Daryn Kagan. Of course coverage out of Iraq continuing throughout the day. I'll be right back here tomorrow morning. Right now, Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington D.C.

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Aired April 28, 2004 - 11:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: The California National Guard is ending patrols at the Golden Gate Bridge that it began shortly after 9/11. The U.S. Park Police, the Coast Guard, and the California Highway Patrol will now handle bridge security.
Comcast is bailing on Disney. The cable giant made a stunning $54 billion takeover bid for Disney in February, but Disney thumbed its nose at it, saying the offer was too low.

And Elton John saying viewer voting on "American Idol" is, quote, "incredibly racist." Three contestants widely considered to be the best recently ended up as the least favorable choices. All three are African-American.

It would appear that the Vietnam War is being refought in this current presidential race, as Democrat John Kerry and his allies grow increasingly angry about Republican attacks on his national defense record.

Judy Woodruff has our daily campaign update. She of course is in Washington D.C.

Judy, good morning.

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN ANCHOR: Hi there, Daryn.

Well, the Kerry campaign's official focus is jobs, as the candidate wraps up a three-day swing through hard-hit industrial state. But Kerry's counterattacks on the Bush/Cheney campaign are getting more of the media attention. Yesterday, the senator told an Ohio newspaper that a lot of fellow veterans are angry that his military record is being questioned by a president who, quote, "can't account for his own National Guard service," and a vice president who got a draft deferment. And at a fund-raiser in Cleveland, Kerry complained about GOP scare tactics.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They want you to believe that John Kerry, who put the uniform of his country on voluntarily, who felt an obligation to go to Vietnam when so many others didn't, who stood up and fought for our country, they want you to believe that somehow I'm not strong for the defense of our nation. Well, I've defended our nation, and I'm prepared to stand up and defend it as president and forever...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WOODRUFF: The Bush camp contends that it has questioned Kerry's Senate record on national defense, and not his Vietnam War service.

Presidential politics also spilling out onto the Senate floor with Republican and Democrats rising to launch partisan attacks. This morning, New Jersey Democrat Frank Lautenberg went after the president, and other members of the administration and the Senate, much to the dismay of Arizona Republican Senator John McCain.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. FRANK LAUTENBERG (D), NEW JERSEY: Chicken hawks -- they shriek like a hawk. They have the backbone of a chicken. We know who the chicken hawks are. They talk tough on national defense and military issues, and cast dispersion on others. When it was their turn to serve, where were they? AWOL.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: Senator Kerry, the Democrat nominee, says we have to stay the course. He may have different views as to exactly how to do that than the president and the administration. But we're in agreement.

And meanwhile, what are we doing here on the floor of the Senate? We're attacking the president's credentials, because of his service, or lack of service, in a war that ended 30 years ago, more than 30 years ago. You know, I think that's wrong. I wish we'd stop it. I wish we would just stop.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WOODRUFF: Those statements on the Senate floor just within the last hour. Well, Senator Arlen Specter survived a close call, and he'll get a shot at a fifth term. With most of the votes counted, the Pennsylvania Republican beat back his challenger, Republican Congressman Pat Toomey, 51 percent to 49 percent, in yesterday's GOP primary. Toomey had argued that Specter as not conservative enough. Specter, who was endorsed by President Bush, will now face Democratic Congressman Joe Heffle (ph) in the November election.

Well, I'll be talking with Senator John McCain who we just heard from this afternoon. Plus with the escalating violence in Iraq, how do Iraqi themselves feel about their current situation? Is life better without Saddam Hussein? we'll unveil results from our first ever poll of the entire country of Iraq, when I go inside politics at 3:30 p.m. Eastern, 12:30 pacific.

Now, let's go right back to Daryn in Atlanta.

KAGAN: Judy, thank you. Look forward to seeing more of you later today. Health news is ahead. At best, it can be difficult to deal with. At worse, it can be deadly. Up next Dr. Sanjay Gupta takes a hard look at postpartum depression, its causes, its treatments. Plus, we will be talking with an expert.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Let's go back to one of our top stories, arguments at the Supreme Court this morning over U.S. citizens who have been designated as enemy combatants. Should they have access to the legal system or held indefinitely for the open-ended war on terror? Let's get audio now that we're hearing from the Supreme Court.

Our Sean Callebs is monitoring that from Washington D.C. -- Sean.

SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Daryn, exactly going on right now, questions over personal freedom are colliding with presidential power and national security.

As you mentioned, right now, the high court is hearing two cases, two separate cases at the Supreme Court, intertwined in the war on terror, and two U.S. citizens the administration is labeling as enemy combatants, but neither has been charged with a crime.

The first case involved Yasser Hamdi. Argument wrapped up there a short time ago. Hamdi man was born in North Carolina, but raised primarily in Egypt. He was seized in Afghanistan. The U.S. maintained he was fighting for the Taliban.

Here is the heart of the case: the Bush administration says it has the authority to hold enemy combatants indefinitely without charges, and calls Hamdi a classic battlefield detainee.

Hamdi's attorney, however, disagrees.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Petitioner Hamdi is a citizen held over two years in the United States, with no opportunity to be heard as to the facts on which his detention is based. Mr. Hamdi makes two claims -- first, the fourth circuit wrongly prevented Hamdi in these habeas proceeding from being heard as to the facts of the case, on grounds that allowing him to be heard will interfere with executive power. Second, that the fourth circuit erred in finding even on the one-sided record that's before this court that his detention is authorized by law.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CALLEBS: After Hamdi was captured, he was first kept at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, with other Taliban detainees. Hamdi was moved and held in isolation at a Navy brig in North Charleston, Carolina after the military determined he was a U.S. citizen.

Arguments are being heard right now in the other Supreme Court case, this one involving Jose Padilla, who is being held in the same brig. Padilla grew up in Chicago, joined a gang, then eventually converted to Islam and traveled the Middle East.

Two years ago, he was arrested at Chicago's O'Hare Airport. The government says he was plotting terrorist to set off a so-called dirty bomb, a radioactive device. Like Hamdi, Padilla has not been formally charged with a crime, and had been denied access to an attorney until recently. Padilla's lawyers say he is being denied his right to a trial. A lower court agreed with Padilla's legal counsel. The administration says these cases are important, and say aggressive efforts in the war on terror will be hurt if the high court rules against them -- Daryn.

KAGAN: Sean Callebs, in D.C., thank you.

KAGAN: Along with the joy of new motherhood, sometimes there is sadness. More from our special series on newborns. Medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta explains some common causes of postpartum depression and how that's different from the baby blues.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Your bundle of joy has finally arrived, and you've just joined the new moms club. Well, get ready. You may be joining yet another, the baby blues club.

HEIDI MURKOFF, AUTHOR, "WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU'RE EXPECTING": With baby blues, you're weepy, you're sad, you are hormonal, you are feeling a little overwhelmed, and who can blame you. But you know, with a little TLC and a little extra rest, most blue moms start to feel relative in the pink within a couple of weeks or so.

GUPTA: But in 10 percent to 15 percent of new moms, the blues don't go away. They didn't for this mom.

SANDRA, POSTPARTUM MOM: A lot of anxiety, panic attacks, just feeling like I couldn't leave home, feeling like I was a little bit worthless, because here I had this beautiful, new baby, had a wonderful 3-year-old, and things, in my eyes, were just terrible.

GUPTA: Eventually, Sandra was diagnosed with postpartum depression, which is like any other major depression, except it usually starts sometime after the baby is born in the postpartum period.

SANDRA: I've never been depressed before in my life. I didn't know what I was experiencing was depression, really.

DR. DIANA DELL, DUKE UNIVERSITY: Easily half of women with postpartum depression have never been depressed before.

GUPTA: Symptoms of which can include hopelessness, anxiety, lack of interest in your baby, feelings of guilt of not being a good mother, and another important one, lack of sleep.

SANDRA: Not being able to sleep compounds some of that feelings that you are getting of hopelessness. How am I going to get up and do this, because you are physically tired and you are mentally exhausted.

GUPTA: Sandra sought professional help.

DR. ZACHARY STOWE, EMORY UNIVERSITY: I think that just letting them know that it can happen is the first step. And then if it does happen, letting them know that, in my opinion, it is one of the easiest things to treat that I have encountered in psychiatry.

GUPTA: Sandra went to therapy, got the advice and support from other moms and took anti-depression medication, which was safe, even though she was breast feeding.

SANDRA: You are much better off if you are -- if you see somebody, get some help, whether it's medication or not medication, because then that allows you to be better for your family, get your depression under control.

GUPTA: Good advice for any new mom.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

KAGAN: Our special series on newborns continues tomorrow. You're going to find out how soon your baby should be sleeping through the night. We are going to focus on sleep training.

Friday, how to cope with more than one bundle of joy. Advice on handling multiples.

You can get your "Daily Dose" of health news online. Log on to our Web site. That's at cnn.com/health.

Are you searching for a hot stock tip? How about Google? Goggle's got it. The Internet search giant about to go public. Millions are already lining up. Our tech guru Daniel Sieberg giving us a look coming up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAGAN: Wanted to get you a little bit more information on postpartum depression that we just heard from Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Want to bring in one of the leading experts on postpartum depression. Dr. Zachary Stowe is director of the women's mental health program at Emory University right here in Atlanta.

Dr. Stowe, thanks for being with us.

DR. ZACHARY STOWE, EMORY UNIVERSITY: I appreciate you're having me.

KAGAN: We wanted to get some addition information including some new research that show there actually might be signs of postpartum depression prepartum, while a woman is still pregnant.

STOWE: Yes. Actually, in one of our most recent studies completed here in the Atlanta area, there's pretty good evidence that about 25 percent of women who actually then come in seeking treatment from postpartum depression had symptom onset before they ever delivered.

KAGAN: And what are those signs you should look for?

STOWE: Well the most common signs that we've seen really is an anxiety or an inability to be able to rest. You know, most pregnant women might be tired, things of this nature. But when given a chance to rest, they should be able to.

But in unable to rest, feeling anxious, not as excited or enthusiastic about the pregnancy as they had hoped or planned to be. Those should all be things that warrant further questions.

KAGAN: And what kind of treatment can you actually you get then when you're pregnant? There's so little you can take.

STOWE: Well, actually, that's a little bit of a misnomer. There's a very large growing database about the use of psychiatric treatments during pregnancy be it psychotherapy, anti-depressant medications. And to date, I would say the majority of those treatments are looking pretty good. Certainly looking better than the impact of the untreated illness.

KAGAN: OK, so we're looking before a woman has the baby and after. The importance of sleep. And I know there's a lot of mothers out there, there are a lot of mothers who are go you've got to be kidding. When are you supposed to get sleep?

STOWE: I think one of the issues there is that getting sleep when you have a newborn is a very difficult thing, particularly if you're trying to breast feed. I think that it's harder to get help with night duty.

I think some of the issues that really we haven't taught our young mothers as well is what we refer to as sleeping in shifts. Mom and Dad do not need to go to bed at the same time when you have a newborn. You simply offset that by two to three hour and the last person to bed gets that feeding.

Also, breast feeding. We can do something we refer to as the drive-through restaurant. Mother does not need to get up out of bed to breast feed the baby. Someone else can help with burping and the changing and those things. And all of those things can actually help with sleep.

KAGAN: Very good tips. Dr. Stowe, thank you for your time today.

STOWE: Thank you very much.

KAGAN: On to business news. For a giggle, have you ever tried to ogle Google? You'll get news about the Internet search engine's widely anticipated initial public offering. That's IPO, for those hip to the street. Well, Google's IPO could be the biggest thing since the tech bubble burst in 2000. It's expected this week. Our technology correspondent Daniel Sieberg to tell us more about how Google reshaped American culture.

DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT: And really became a verb, too, Daryn. The verb "to Google."

KAGAN: A personal question. Have you ever Googled yourself?

SIEBERG: I have Googled myself. People call that ego surfing.

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SIEBERG: Yes, it has happened.

It did start spreading about five years ago, mainly by word of mouth. And it has turned into the world's largest search engine.

But beyond Google's technology, there's an feeling that it's changed the way people use the Internet, even the way people use their computers. So amidst all the hype around the IPO, we thought we'd take a look and see what makes Google tick.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can think of ogle as the bulletin board for the global village.

SIEBERG: Do you Google? These days it seems who doesn't. Google comes from G-O-O-G-O-L, a math term that means one followed by 100 zeros. It symbolizes the huge amount of data on the Internet. And its creators, Sergey Brin and Larry Page, two former Stanford students, are on a mission to organize all of it, from museum collection to Britney photos, even your home address.

PROF. JANET MURRAY, GEORGIA TECH: Everything about your life seems to be just one Google away.

SIEBERG (on camera): Remember card catalogs, the Dewy Decimal System, libraries? Well, not only did Google's founders find a way to search the billions of pages of information on the Internet in a fraction of the time, but they also made it easy to read, accurate and a little fun.

CHRIS SHERMAN, SEARCHENGINEWATCH.COM: Well, Google calls their headquarters the "Googleplex." And when you walk into the Googleplex, you immediately recognize that this is not just your ordinary corporation or computer place. Google has a grand piano in the lobby, for example. There are lava lamps all over the place. They play roller hockey in the parking lot.

SIEBERG (voice-over): And that sense of doing Googley things at their Mountainview, California office translates to their site. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, you know what I love the most? I love how they do little logos for Christmas and different activities, different holidays. They do little graphics and sort of make fun of their logo.

SIEBERG: And it's not just looking for things. Sometimes it's people.

MURRAY: I do the same thing with my daughter when she has a new boyfriend. One of the first things I do is put his name in that search engine and see what comes up. I try to say very subtlety, oh, how do you spell that, dear?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I never Googled myself. I'm afraid for what I might find.

SHERMAN: Google makes it as simple as sitting down, typing in a few words, and in most cases, it will actually give you a very good answer, and so I think that's the reason for its overwhelming popularity.

SIEBERG: Google still faces competition from the likes of Yahoo!, Altavista, Microsoft, and Askjeeves. Now it's branched out to include other functions, plus a Web-based e-mail service.

SHERMAN: In 50 years, they'd ultimately like to have Google be the same kind of computer that you see in Star Trek right now, where it's basically everywhere, you speak to it, it give you answers, and so on. Whether they actually reach that goal or not remains to be seen, but it shows you that their ambitions are certainly quite high.

SIEBERG: Want to know more? Well, you could always Google it.

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SIEBERG: And Google, people do. There are about 250 million searches every day on Google, and they actually keep track of all them, and it's not slowing down at all. The fear from some analysts, though, is that if they go public, if they go with this IPO, they could lose some of their appeal to sort of the core group of technology people who got in on this early, that the sense of fun will be lost when you have to report a quarterly earnings report, and nothing sucks the life out of a company necessarily like the bottom line, when money becomes so important for people.

KAGAN: It looks like there's a lot to go around, a lot of money though.

Daniel Sieberg, thank you for that.

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(WEATHER UPDATE) KAGAN: That's going to do it for me, Daryn Kagan. Of course coverage out of Iraq continuing throughout the day. I'll be right back here tomorrow morning. Right now, Wolf Blitzer takes over from Washington D.C.

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