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Arab Reaction to Photos Showing Alleged Abuse of Iraqi Prisoners; Arraignment No. 2 for King of Pop

Aired April 30, 2004 - 06:30   ET

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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning to you from the CNN global headquarters in Atlanta. I'm Carol Costello. Let me bring you up to date.
U.S. Marines say they plan to pull back from Fallujah and have former Iraqi generals oversee an Iraqi force securing the city. CNN's Jane Arraf is reporting a similar deal is under way for Najaf.

About 40,000 gallons of diesel fuel spill into a marsh 30 miles northeast of San Francisco. The spill is at a nesting ground for migratory birds.

In Bakersfield, California, a judge will decide today if John Stoll (ph) should be freed after serving 20 years for child molestation. Some of his accusers say they were pressured by a prosecutor to lie about the charges.

In Warsaw, the European Economic Summit is examining the changes -- the challenges, rather, of an enlarged European Union. Eight former Soviet Bloc nations join the EU tomorrow.

(WEATHER BREAK)

COSTELLO: I want to bring you up to speed now on what's going on in the fight for Iraq. New pictures for you this morning that show Marines removing barricades and U.S. armored vehicles driving away from Fallujah. Marines say they do plan to pull back from the city and into rural areas. No word on when the redeployment will actually happen in its entirety.

New photographs that appear to show American soldiers abusing detainees at a prison outside Baghdad could stir Arab anger today. The pictures first aired on CBS' "60 Minutes," and are now appearing on Arab TV and in newspapers overseas.

And April ends with the distinction of being the deadliest month for American troops in Iraq. A total of 126 U.S. troops were killed there this month alone.

And it was one year ago tomorrow that President Bush landed on an aircraft carrier and declared an end to major combat in Iraq.

We want to talk more about those pictures of U.S. soldiers allegedly abusing Iraqi prisoners. Our senior international editor, David Clinch, is here now.

We have some of the pictures...

DAVID CLINCH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL EDITOR: Yes.

COSTELLO: ... but most of them are simply too graphic to show our audience this morning.

CLINCH: Yes, many of them are. I mean, I watched them on "60 Minutes" the other day. They are horrific things. The story aspect, as we're covering it today, as you've mentioned, is that these pictures have now been taken by many newspapers and TV networks and being shown all over the Arab world and in Europe.

On the Arab world side, they are being shown on TV that's being in Iraq, and we're already getting reaction there from Baghdad citizens who are telling Ben Wedeman and others that they are horrified, angered. Many of them say they are not surprised, though, to see this kind of abuse.

COSTELLO: Explain this picture for us.

CLINCH: The pictures, as "60 Minutes" described them and as we hear from our own sources, too, appear to show U.S. troops inside this prison in Baghdad, taking Iraqi prisoners, putting them, in this case hoods over their head, telling them they'll be electrocuted if they step away. Some of them are naked, told to do sexual acts. All of this being photographed.

And we've reported before that these photos have been handed over. An investigation is in process. Six people are facing charges. The U.S. says it's going to crack down on anybody held responsible.

Now, there's another aspect to this story, though, because feeding into the whole anger and Iraqi insurgency itself, these images on TV, it's the seeing of the images that we're talking about today, because the story has been out there for a while. Iraqis are reacting.

And now in Europe, too, it's a lead story today in many newspapers in Britain, France and elsewhere, and we mentioned this earlier, that while that stands to reason that people in Europe would be just as disgusted as anybody here would be in seeing the photographs, we've been waiting to hear reaction from governments, particularly those governments who were involved in the coalition, to see whether there's an aspect of embarrassment and anger. We're just hearing first reports that Tony Blair, who's waking up seeing these newspaper pictures himself this morning, is saying through his officials spokesman that he is appalled at the photographs.

Now, whether it will have any effect on the coalition or anything, that's, I would say, unlikely. That's just an opinion. But it is definitely a factor today all over Europe...

COSTELLO: Right.

CLINCH: ... that those coalition leaders are looking at this, saying this is bad PR. COSTELLO: And, of course, we'll find out more about whatever reaction there may be to those pictures later today.

CLINCH: Yes.

COSTELLO: David Clinch, many thanks to you.

Media madness is expected again today, as Michael Jackson is arraigned for the second time in Santa Maria, California. Of course, the madness may be a little tempered, because this time Jackson has a new less flashy defense team.

Let's head live to Santa Maria now and CNN correspondent Chris Lawrence.

Good morning.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Carol.

It is quiet here now, but that won't last long, not with five busloads of fans scheduled to leave Los Angeles in the next few minutes. A few people have already started to line up against the fences here as Michael Jackson makes his way back to court for the first time in months.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

LAWRENCE (voice-over): When Michael Jackson left his Neverland Ranch a few months ago, he promised to never again call it home. But hours before Jackson's arraignment on Friday, his fans showed up outside the gates where the star once lived.

A grand jury investigating child molestation charges against Jackson indicted him last week, clearing the way for a trial. But exactly what evidence the jurors heard is contained in transcripts, available only to the attorneys for now.

(on camera): You think it's going to come out.

CHRISTOPHER DARDEN, LEGAL ANALYST: I absolutely believe that what happened in the grand jury room is going to be leaked. Those grand jury transcripts would probably fetch a price in excess of a quarter million dollars.

LAWRENCE (voice-over): And as the case heads into its next phase, defense attorney Tom Mesereau steps in for Mark Geragos, and a private firm takes over Jackson's security from the Nation of Islam. At the courthouse, fences have been mounted three feet into the ground after the crowd at January's arraignment forced deputies to hold up the fence themselves.

DARRELL PARKER, TRIAL COURTS OFFICER: Well, we've had fence spilling out into traffic, and someone is going to get hurt if they don't take some additional efforts to contain those crowds.

LAWRENCE: And while the crowds may be the same, this time around no one expects Jackson to turn his appearance into a performance.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

And just this week, Jackson said, "My life is at stake," and seems to be learning towards a lower profile. One legal analyst told us, he should take a page out of Kobe Bryant's book: show up to court on time, wear a suit and quietly leave the courtroom -- Carol.

COSTELLO: Maybe it will happen. We don't know. Chris Lawrence reporting live from Santa Maria, California, this morning.

It is time for some "Coffey Talk" on this topic. Joining us live from Miami, our legal analyst, Kendall Coffey.

Good morning -- Kendall.

KENDALL COFFEY, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Good morning, Carol.

COSTELLO: So, let's start with that. Do you think Michael Jackson is going to take a page out of the Kobe Bryant book and show up in a suit and be very low key?

COFFEY: I think it's going to be more serious today, because it's really registering with him the gravity of what's happening. I think this grand jury process was very, very frustrating, because there's nothing a defendant can do about it. All you do is hear about witness after witness -- you don't get any specific information -- building a case against you. And I think there may actually be a reality check going on. For his sake, one would certainly hope so.

COSTELLO: We could hear of some new charges during this proceeding, couldn't we?

COFFEY: That's going to be the interesting thing, Carol. Is this simply going to be, in effect, a re-minting of the same charges before? As we recall, seven counts for lewd and lascivious conduct with a minor under 14, the two counts of inducing a minor with alcohol.

There could be other charges. If not, then it will be the same stuff, but now a different procedural vehicle. Because with the grand jury indictment, you won't go forward to a preliminary hearing like we saw in the Kobe Bryant and the Scott Peterson cases. This case would really be on its way toward trial.

COSTELLO: Jackson has this new legal defense team. Did they have enough time to get up to speed?

COFFEY: The judge is going to give them enough time, and I think even though the prosecutor thinks that the grand jury indictment process is a shortcut that gets him out of the preliminary hearing, expect a lot of very aggressive challenges to the way the grand jury proceeding was conducted to whether or not the prosecutor handled it fairly. So, I think even before trial, although this case is now surely heading to trial, there's going to be some satellite litigation on how the grand jury proceeding was conducted.

COSTELLO: Let's talk a little bit about that grand jury testimony, because you heard the man in Chris Lawrence's story say that a lot of money will be paid for these transcripts, and some information is going to leak. That's a sure thing. How might this affect the case?

COFFEY: Well, the initial go-round is going to be perhaps even a battle between lawyers, prosecutors and the media, because once those transcripts are turned over to the lawyers -- and I'm talking about the transcripts of witness testimony being turned over to Michael Jackson's lawyers; there may be a fight for other parts of the grand jury proceedings -- there is an ability to object to it being made publicly, and you get fights between media lawyers and defense lawyers as to whether that happens. That could be one of the rounds we look to down the road.

But with or without court's permission, Carol, I think you're right. It's hard to think that important parts of a case that's this sensational, this much in front of the public eye, isn't going to leak out in one form or another.

COSTELLO: Kendall Coffey live from Miami this morning.

Still to come on DAYBREAK, mean girls, funny guys and plenty of thrills to go around this weekend at the box office. We'll get the critics picks for you.

And accelerate, brake, parallel park are not things you learn to do in a Ferrari, unless you go to this driving school.

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COSTELLO: Time for a little business buzz now. Millions of Americans, millions, are going tasteless.

Joya Doss explains. She's live at the Nasdaq Marketsite.

JOYA DOSS, CNN FINANCIAL NEWS: (UNINTELLIGIBLE), Carol.

COSTELLO: It sounds kind of obscene for some reason. They're going tasteless.

DOSS: I think there was a character on that "Sex and the City" that was very fond of TiVo and Replay TV, whatever your poison when you're replaying, fast forwarding your favorite TV shows. Digital video recorders are becoming more and more of a craze in people's households, especially now that local cable companies are actually offering it.

You may not know this, but digital video recorders have actually been around since 1999, and there's a new study published by Forrester Research that says that the number of U.S. households with DVRs will grow to 6.5 million by the end of 2004. That's almost double what we saw in 2003.

And part of that has to do with the fact that a lot of consumer electronics makers are now actually incorporating this into some of the other electronics that you might be buying for your household, but nonetheless, you can watch your favorite shows, even if you've got a baby crying or you've had to walk away for whatever reason. So fear not if you've got one of these.

COSTELLO: Hallelujah.

DOSS: Yes. Let me tell you about those futures markets, because, you know, you said I've been sounding like a broken record all week. But today, the futures markets are pointing to a higher opening for stocks, which is good news, because we saw a pretty hefty sell-off on Wall Street yesterday.

COSTELLO: All right, that's better news. Joya Doss live from the Nasdaq Marketsite.

Your news, money, weather and sports. It is 6:44 Eastern Time. Here's what's all new this morning.

Packing up in Fallujah. U.S. Marines are pulling back after a tentative agreement for a former group of Iraqi generals to secure the city. A similar deal is in the works in Najaf.

In Cleveland, protests over a police officer shooting of a 21- year-old man who used his car to pin an officer up against a house.

In money news, Gateway says it's cutting 1,500 jobs by the end of the year. That's about 40 percent of its workforce. The computer maker closed all of its 188 stores this month.

In sports, the New York Yankees' Derek Jeter finally breaks out of his hitting slump. Take a look at that. He hit a homerun last night, breaking a 0-32 drought. New York beat Oakland 7-5.

And in culture, Columbian singer Juanes has won songwriter of the year at Billboard's Latin Music Awards ceremony. The late Celia Cruz won for top album artist, top female tropical album and top greatest hits album.

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COSTELLO: Those are the latest headlines for you.

Still to come on DAYBREAK, some mean competition at the box office this weekend. It is Friday. It is time to see what's coming to the big screen. Watch out for the mean girl.

And hopefully these little ladies won't grow up to be mean girls. We'll tell you what's so darned interesting about this nursery.

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COSTELLO: Now we know why. Chad says you wonder why I don't waste money on movies. Well, you'll seen see why he doesn't.

Don't be envious if it's raining where you are. A weekend movie would be a godsend. Our regular Friday movie guy is Tom O'Neil, senior editor of "In Touch Weekly."

Tom, it's dump month, isn't it?

TOM O'NEIL, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": I know. You wouldn't pay money to go to your town dump this weekend. In most cases, don't pay money to go to the movie theater.

COSTELLO: Oh, no!

O'NEIL: This is the month that they get rid of all of those real bad movies that didn't work out.

COSTELLO: Oh, great! Well, let's start with the first one, shall we? It's called "Envy," and it's got great actors in it.

O'NEIL: I know. You would think this would be a really great movie. It stars Jack Black and Ben Stiller as neighbors who are always getting into get-rich-quick schemes that fail until Jack stumbles upon a secret spray that makes dog poo go away. And Ben is not...

COSTELLO: Oh, come on!

O'NEIL: Oh, that's the premise. This is directed by Barry Levinson, who won an Oscar for "Rain Man." There is so much talent here, but this movie is so bad they've delayed it for a year. They kept putting it off, putting it off, putting it off. This movie is so bad they won't let critics in to see it ahead of time, because they're going to rat like I'm doing to you.

COSTELLO: Yes, but, Tom, can you imagine going to Jack Black -- your agent going to Jack Black and saying, hey, listen to the premise of this great movie. They have this invention that makes dog poo disappear. Now, who would make that?

O'NEIL: I know. Why would he say yes? I can tell you why Ben Stiller said yes. He got a paycheck of $10 million of the $40 million budget for this picture.

COSTELLO: That explains it.

O'NEIL: Yes, really.

COSTELLO: "Godsend," what about this movie?

O'NEIL: Well, you've got to wonder why Robert DeNiro would do a stinker like this. This movie is so bad they shot five different endings, and none of them worked. This is a movie -- it's a great premise, though -- about a couple whose 8-year-old boy dies in a car wreck, and they try to bring him back from the dead when Robert DeNiro shows up and says, you know, I can have your kid cloned. DeNiro turns out to be a dark Satanic force, and it really is a great premise, but the thing just flops.

COSTELLO: Oh, that's a shame, because that's such a hot topic these days. So you would think that would work out pretty good, but obviously not.

O'NEIL: Yes.

COSTELLO: How about "Mean Girls?" I've heard some good things about this movie.

O'NEIL: This is actually pretty good. It would even be better if it were meaner, because it's about a bunch of mean girls in an Illinois high school and this clique of cat-fighting gals who turn against the new kid in town, who is played by Lindsay Lohan from "Freaky Friday." And it's really pretty good. This comes from the gang who gives us "Saturday Night Live." It was written by Tina Fey, who does "Weekend Update," and she even has a cameo part in this film.

COSTELLO: Oh, good. OK, so maybe I'll go see that one.

"Bobby Jones, Stroke of Genius."

O'NEIL: Oh, another thing for the dump. Yes, this...

COSTELLO: Oh, that's Jesus.

O'NEIL: It's Jesus, the guy from "Passion," James Caviezel. How do we pronounce his name?

COSTELLO: Oh, Caviezel.

O'NEIL: In this movie, he suffers from stomach aches, and he's always wincing. Well, that's what the audience does when they watch this movie. It's about Bobby Jones, who was a hero in the 1920s and '30s. He was the best golfer in America, and he refused to turn pro. He stayed on the amateur circuit. But this movie, oh, horrible.

COSTELLO: Oh, you know, I skipped over a movie, because I'm going in order. And I apologize to our director for that. "Laws of Attraction," because when I see commercials about this movie, I want to go see it.

O'NEIL: Yes, you really do. And look at the star power here -- Julianne Moore, Pierce Brosnan of 007. But Pierce is looking past his 007 career, because he won't be doing the future movies now that he's turned 50. But this is terrible.

COSTELLO: Oh!

O'NEIL: It attempts to redo Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn in "Adam's Rib" about dueling divorce lawyers who are actually married to each other and fight. But the dialogue is dumb. The situations are predictable. And they just did this for a paycheck.

COSTELLO: Oh, that just depresses me. So, let's talk about some Bulgarian love. O'NEIL: Well, this is a cute little arthouse movie. It's kind of a gay blue angel. A middle-aged lawyer falls for a young hot hustler, and it takes some unexpected twists when the hustler who comes from Bulgaria -- the movie is set in Spain -- gets married, goes home back to Spain, and his gay lover goes with him. It's OK. It's not as great as it probably could be. But of all of the choices this weekend, you might be better off with "Bulgarian Lovers."

COSTELLO: Or "Mean Girls."

O'NEIL: And certainly with the dog poo movie.

COSTELLO: I can't even believe that. Tom O'Neil, many thanks to you. We'll see you next Friday.

O'NEIL: Thanks, Carol.

COSTELLO: So, now we know why you don't go to the movies and pay seven bucks to get in.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Thanks goodness for Nascar once in a while, you know. Yikes!

Anyway, we ran out of time yesterday to give away the DAYBREAK coffee mug, because of all of that breaking news.

COSTELLO: Breaking news.

MYERS: Here were the questions that we asked you a long, long time ago.

Which two enemy combatants will have their cases heard before the Supreme Court? Which they've already done. But Yaser Hamdi, Jose Padilla.

Also, what are the two methods used to decaffeinate coffee? The Swiss water process and then just the chemical process, if you will, because we got a bunch of answers there.

And the winner -- the winner from Annandale, Virginia, Susan Pittman.

COSTELLO: Congratulations, Susan.

MYERS: Your mug, as they say, is in the mail.

And now, the question of the day. Get ready to type, type, type. Here we go.

What type of spacecraft just carried three space station crewmembers back to Earth?

And the second one -- you have to actually pay attention to the story here. What's the Google Company's slogan?

COSTELLO: What is the Google Company's slogan? I love the slogan, so we hope you get it. Daybreak@CNN.com. Daybreak@CNN.com. We'll announce the winners on Monday. We're not going to promise, but we will.

MYERS: Not me.

COSTELLO: Chad will join me for "The Lightning Round," but first the latest headlines for you.

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COSTELLO: Willie Nelson is 71.

MYERS: Waylon and Willie.

COSTELLO: It's something. It is time for our cheesy "Lightning Round."

MYERS: Ready.

COSTELLO: OK, who says 13 is an unlucky number, Chad? This hospital in -- I can't read now. This hospital in Illinois welcomed 13 baby girls all within 13 hours earlier this week.

MYERS: Oh, my!

COSTELLO: Can you believe that? After that, the cycle was broken. Baby 14 was a boy.

MYERS: Boy. Good.

COSTELLO: But he's probably enjoying himself with all those girls.

MYERS: Maybe and maybe not.

COSTELLO: Isn't that the kind of car I learned to drive in? Some driving schools in Germany actually let students get behind the wheel of a Ferrari. Student drivers behind the wheel of a Ferrari.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: If they get carried away, though, the instructor has a brake pedal.

MYERS: Oh, good. No, the other pedal, the other one.

COSTELLO: And if you're near New York City, you can see Ferraris galore at Rockefeller Center.

MYERS: Oh, nice.

COSTELLO: As the Italian carmaker celebrates 50 years in North America, more than a dozen Ferraris are on loan from private car collections for this display. It runs through May 2. How beautiful is that?

MYERS: The Ferraris are doing so well on the Formula One circuit this year. Man, just Michael Shumaker (ph) is the man.

COSTELLO: Have you driven one?

MYERS: Have I ever? I've never touched one. No. Sorry. I have a Ford Ranger pickup, Carol. Come on.

COSTELLO: I know. I know. I shouldn't have asked. But what a great experience that would be.

MYERS: It really would be, yes.

COSTELLO: From the CNN global headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Carol Costello, along with Chad Myers. "AMERICAN MORNING" starts right now.

MYERS: Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Aired April 30, 2004 - 06:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning to you from the CNN global headquarters in Atlanta. I'm Carol Costello. Let me bring you up to date.
U.S. Marines say they plan to pull back from Fallujah and have former Iraqi generals oversee an Iraqi force securing the city. CNN's Jane Arraf is reporting a similar deal is under way for Najaf.

About 40,000 gallons of diesel fuel spill into a marsh 30 miles northeast of San Francisco. The spill is at a nesting ground for migratory birds.

In Bakersfield, California, a judge will decide today if John Stoll (ph) should be freed after serving 20 years for child molestation. Some of his accusers say they were pressured by a prosecutor to lie about the charges.

In Warsaw, the European Economic Summit is examining the changes -- the challenges, rather, of an enlarged European Union. Eight former Soviet Bloc nations join the EU tomorrow.

(WEATHER BREAK)

COSTELLO: I want to bring you up to speed now on what's going on in the fight for Iraq. New pictures for you this morning that show Marines removing barricades and U.S. armored vehicles driving away from Fallujah. Marines say they do plan to pull back from the city and into rural areas. No word on when the redeployment will actually happen in its entirety.

New photographs that appear to show American soldiers abusing detainees at a prison outside Baghdad could stir Arab anger today. The pictures first aired on CBS' "60 Minutes," and are now appearing on Arab TV and in newspapers overseas.

And April ends with the distinction of being the deadliest month for American troops in Iraq. A total of 126 U.S. troops were killed there this month alone.

And it was one year ago tomorrow that President Bush landed on an aircraft carrier and declared an end to major combat in Iraq.

We want to talk more about those pictures of U.S. soldiers allegedly abusing Iraqi prisoners. Our senior international editor, David Clinch, is here now.

We have some of the pictures...

DAVID CLINCH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL EDITOR: Yes.

COSTELLO: ... but most of them are simply too graphic to show our audience this morning.

CLINCH: Yes, many of them are. I mean, I watched them on "60 Minutes" the other day. They are horrific things. The story aspect, as we're covering it today, as you've mentioned, is that these pictures have now been taken by many newspapers and TV networks and being shown all over the Arab world and in Europe.

On the Arab world side, they are being shown on TV that's being in Iraq, and we're already getting reaction there from Baghdad citizens who are telling Ben Wedeman and others that they are horrified, angered. Many of them say they are not surprised, though, to see this kind of abuse.

COSTELLO: Explain this picture for us.

CLINCH: The pictures, as "60 Minutes" described them and as we hear from our own sources, too, appear to show U.S. troops inside this prison in Baghdad, taking Iraqi prisoners, putting them, in this case hoods over their head, telling them they'll be electrocuted if they step away. Some of them are naked, told to do sexual acts. All of this being photographed.

And we've reported before that these photos have been handed over. An investigation is in process. Six people are facing charges. The U.S. says it's going to crack down on anybody held responsible.

Now, there's another aspect to this story, though, because feeding into the whole anger and Iraqi insurgency itself, these images on TV, it's the seeing of the images that we're talking about today, because the story has been out there for a while. Iraqis are reacting.

And now in Europe, too, it's a lead story today in many newspapers in Britain, France and elsewhere, and we mentioned this earlier, that while that stands to reason that people in Europe would be just as disgusted as anybody here would be in seeing the photographs, we've been waiting to hear reaction from governments, particularly those governments who were involved in the coalition, to see whether there's an aspect of embarrassment and anger. We're just hearing first reports that Tony Blair, who's waking up seeing these newspaper pictures himself this morning, is saying through his officials spokesman that he is appalled at the photographs.

Now, whether it will have any effect on the coalition or anything, that's, I would say, unlikely. That's just an opinion. But it is definitely a factor today all over Europe...

COSTELLO: Right.

CLINCH: ... that those coalition leaders are looking at this, saying this is bad PR. COSTELLO: And, of course, we'll find out more about whatever reaction there may be to those pictures later today.

CLINCH: Yes.

COSTELLO: David Clinch, many thanks to you.

Media madness is expected again today, as Michael Jackson is arraigned for the second time in Santa Maria, California. Of course, the madness may be a little tempered, because this time Jackson has a new less flashy defense team.

Let's head live to Santa Maria now and CNN correspondent Chris Lawrence.

Good morning.

CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Carol.

It is quiet here now, but that won't last long, not with five busloads of fans scheduled to leave Los Angeles in the next few minutes. A few people have already started to line up against the fences here as Michael Jackson makes his way back to court for the first time in months.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

LAWRENCE (voice-over): When Michael Jackson left his Neverland Ranch a few months ago, he promised to never again call it home. But hours before Jackson's arraignment on Friday, his fans showed up outside the gates where the star once lived.

A grand jury investigating child molestation charges against Jackson indicted him last week, clearing the way for a trial. But exactly what evidence the jurors heard is contained in transcripts, available only to the attorneys for now.

(on camera): You think it's going to come out.

CHRISTOPHER DARDEN, LEGAL ANALYST: I absolutely believe that what happened in the grand jury room is going to be leaked. Those grand jury transcripts would probably fetch a price in excess of a quarter million dollars.

LAWRENCE (voice-over): And as the case heads into its next phase, defense attorney Tom Mesereau steps in for Mark Geragos, and a private firm takes over Jackson's security from the Nation of Islam. At the courthouse, fences have been mounted three feet into the ground after the crowd at January's arraignment forced deputies to hold up the fence themselves.

DARRELL PARKER, TRIAL COURTS OFFICER: Well, we've had fence spilling out into traffic, and someone is going to get hurt if they don't take some additional efforts to contain those crowds.

LAWRENCE: And while the crowds may be the same, this time around no one expects Jackson to turn his appearance into a performance.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

And just this week, Jackson said, "My life is at stake," and seems to be learning towards a lower profile. One legal analyst told us, he should take a page out of Kobe Bryant's book: show up to court on time, wear a suit and quietly leave the courtroom -- Carol.

COSTELLO: Maybe it will happen. We don't know. Chris Lawrence reporting live from Santa Maria, California, this morning.

It is time for some "Coffey Talk" on this topic. Joining us live from Miami, our legal analyst, Kendall Coffey.

Good morning -- Kendall.

KENDALL COFFEY, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Good morning, Carol.

COSTELLO: So, let's start with that. Do you think Michael Jackson is going to take a page out of the Kobe Bryant book and show up in a suit and be very low key?

COFFEY: I think it's going to be more serious today, because it's really registering with him the gravity of what's happening. I think this grand jury process was very, very frustrating, because there's nothing a defendant can do about it. All you do is hear about witness after witness -- you don't get any specific information -- building a case against you. And I think there may actually be a reality check going on. For his sake, one would certainly hope so.

COSTELLO: We could hear of some new charges during this proceeding, couldn't we?

COFFEY: That's going to be the interesting thing, Carol. Is this simply going to be, in effect, a re-minting of the same charges before? As we recall, seven counts for lewd and lascivious conduct with a minor under 14, the two counts of inducing a minor with alcohol.

There could be other charges. If not, then it will be the same stuff, but now a different procedural vehicle. Because with the grand jury indictment, you won't go forward to a preliminary hearing like we saw in the Kobe Bryant and the Scott Peterson cases. This case would really be on its way toward trial.

COSTELLO: Jackson has this new legal defense team. Did they have enough time to get up to speed?

COFFEY: The judge is going to give them enough time, and I think even though the prosecutor thinks that the grand jury indictment process is a shortcut that gets him out of the preliminary hearing, expect a lot of very aggressive challenges to the way the grand jury proceeding was conducted to whether or not the prosecutor handled it fairly. So, I think even before trial, although this case is now surely heading to trial, there's going to be some satellite litigation on how the grand jury proceeding was conducted.

COSTELLO: Let's talk a little bit about that grand jury testimony, because you heard the man in Chris Lawrence's story say that a lot of money will be paid for these transcripts, and some information is going to leak. That's a sure thing. How might this affect the case?

COFFEY: Well, the initial go-round is going to be perhaps even a battle between lawyers, prosecutors and the media, because once those transcripts are turned over to the lawyers -- and I'm talking about the transcripts of witness testimony being turned over to Michael Jackson's lawyers; there may be a fight for other parts of the grand jury proceedings -- there is an ability to object to it being made publicly, and you get fights between media lawyers and defense lawyers as to whether that happens. That could be one of the rounds we look to down the road.

But with or without court's permission, Carol, I think you're right. It's hard to think that important parts of a case that's this sensational, this much in front of the public eye, isn't going to leak out in one form or another.

COSTELLO: Kendall Coffey live from Miami this morning.

Still to come on DAYBREAK, mean girls, funny guys and plenty of thrills to go around this weekend at the box office. We'll get the critics picks for you.

And accelerate, brake, parallel park are not things you learn to do in a Ferrari, unless you go to this driving school.

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COSTELLO: Time for a little business buzz now. Millions of Americans, millions, are going tasteless.

Joya Doss explains. She's live at the Nasdaq Marketsite.

JOYA DOSS, CNN FINANCIAL NEWS: (UNINTELLIGIBLE), Carol.

COSTELLO: It sounds kind of obscene for some reason. They're going tasteless.

DOSS: I think there was a character on that "Sex and the City" that was very fond of TiVo and Replay TV, whatever your poison when you're replaying, fast forwarding your favorite TV shows. Digital video recorders are becoming more and more of a craze in people's households, especially now that local cable companies are actually offering it.

You may not know this, but digital video recorders have actually been around since 1999, and there's a new study published by Forrester Research that says that the number of U.S. households with DVRs will grow to 6.5 million by the end of 2004. That's almost double what we saw in 2003.

And part of that has to do with the fact that a lot of consumer electronics makers are now actually incorporating this into some of the other electronics that you might be buying for your household, but nonetheless, you can watch your favorite shows, even if you've got a baby crying or you've had to walk away for whatever reason. So fear not if you've got one of these.

COSTELLO: Hallelujah.

DOSS: Yes. Let me tell you about those futures markets, because, you know, you said I've been sounding like a broken record all week. But today, the futures markets are pointing to a higher opening for stocks, which is good news, because we saw a pretty hefty sell-off on Wall Street yesterday.

COSTELLO: All right, that's better news. Joya Doss live from the Nasdaq Marketsite.

Your news, money, weather and sports. It is 6:44 Eastern Time. Here's what's all new this morning.

Packing up in Fallujah. U.S. Marines are pulling back after a tentative agreement for a former group of Iraqi generals to secure the city. A similar deal is in the works in Najaf.

In Cleveland, protests over a police officer shooting of a 21- year-old man who used his car to pin an officer up against a house.

In money news, Gateway says it's cutting 1,500 jobs by the end of the year. That's about 40 percent of its workforce. The computer maker closed all of its 188 stores this month.

In sports, the New York Yankees' Derek Jeter finally breaks out of his hitting slump. Take a look at that. He hit a homerun last night, breaking a 0-32 drought. New York beat Oakland 7-5.

And in culture, Columbian singer Juanes has won songwriter of the year at Billboard's Latin Music Awards ceremony. The late Celia Cruz won for top album artist, top female tropical album and top greatest hits album.

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COSTELLO: Those are the latest headlines for you.

Still to come on DAYBREAK, some mean competition at the box office this weekend. It is Friday. It is time to see what's coming to the big screen. Watch out for the mean girl.

And hopefully these little ladies won't grow up to be mean girls. We'll tell you what's so darned interesting about this nursery.

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COSTELLO: Now we know why. Chad says you wonder why I don't waste money on movies. Well, you'll seen see why he doesn't.

Don't be envious if it's raining where you are. A weekend movie would be a godsend. Our regular Friday movie guy is Tom O'Neil, senior editor of "In Touch Weekly."

Tom, it's dump month, isn't it?

TOM O'NEIL, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": I know. You wouldn't pay money to go to your town dump this weekend. In most cases, don't pay money to go to the movie theater.

COSTELLO: Oh, no!

O'NEIL: This is the month that they get rid of all of those real bad movies that didn't work out.

COSTELLO: Oh, great! Well, let's start with the first one, shall we? It's called "Envy," and it's got great actors in it.

O'NEIL: I know. You would think this would be a really great movie. It stars Jack Black and Ben Stiller as neighbors who are always getting into get-rich-quick schemes that fail until Jack stumbles upon a secret spray that makes dog poo go away. And Ben is not...

COSTELLO: Oh, come on!

O'NEIL: Oh, that's the premise. This is directed by Barry Levinson, who won an Oscar for "Rain Man." There is so much talent here, but this movie is so bad they've delayed it for a year. They kept putting it off, putting it off, putting it off. This movie is so bad they won't let critics in to see it ahead of time, because they're going to rat like I'm doing to you.

COSTELLO: Yes, but, Tom, can you imagine going to Jack Black -- your agent going to Jack Black and saying, hey, listen to the premise of this great movie. They have this invention that makes dog poo disappear. Now, who would make that?

O'NEIL: I know. Why would he say yes? I can tell you why Ben Stiller said yes. He got a paycheck of $10 million of the $40 million budget for this picture.

COSTELLO: That explains it.

O'NEIL: Yes, really.

COSTELLO: "Godsend," what about this movie?

O'NEIL: Well, you've got to wonder why Robert DeNiro would do a stinker like this. This movie is so bad they shot five different endings, and none of them worked. This is a movie -- it's a great premise, though -- about a couple whose 8-year-old boy dies in a car wreck, and they try to bring him back from the dead when Robert DeNiro shows up and says, you know, I can have your kid cloned. DeNiro turns out to be a dark Satanic force, and it really is a great premise, but the thing just flops.

COSTELLO: Oh, that's a shame, because that's such a hot topic these days. So you would think that would work out pretty good, but obviously not.

O'NEIL: Yes.

COSTELLO: How about "Mean Girls?" I've heard some good things about this movie.

O'NEIL: This is actually pretty good. It would even be better if it were meaner, because it's about a bunch of mean girls in an Illinois high school and this clique of cat-fighting gals who turn against the new kid in town, who is played by Lindsay Lohan from "Freaky Friday." And it's really pretty good. This comes from the gang who gives us "Saturday Night Live." It was written by Tina Fey, who does "Weekend Update," and she even has a cameo part in this film.

COSTELLO: Oh, good. OK, so maybe I'll go see that one.

"Bobby Jones, Stroke of Genius."

O'NEIL: Oh, another thing for the dump. Yes, this...

COSTELLO: Oh, that's Jesus.

O'NEIL: It's Jesus, the guy from "Passion," James Caviezel. How do we pronounce his name?

COSTELLO: Oh, Caviezel.

O'NEIL: In this movie, he suffers from stomach aches, and he's always wincing. Well, that's what the audience does when they watch this movie. It's about Bobby Jones, who was a hero in the 1920s and '30s. He was the best golfer in America, and he refused to turn pro. He stayed on the amateur circuit. But this movie, oh, horrible.

COSTELLO: Oh, you know, I skipped over a movie, because I'm going in order. And I apologize to our director for that. "Laws of Attraction," because when I see commercials about this movie, I want to go see it.

O'NEIL: Yes, you really do. And look at the star power here -- Julianne Moore, Pierce Brosnan of 007. But Pierce is looking past his 007 career, because he won't be doing the future movies now that he's turned 50. But this is terrible.

COSTELLO: Oh!

O'NEIL: It attempts to redo Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn in "Adam's Rib" about dueling divorce lawyers who are actually married to each other and fight. But the dialogue is dumb. The situations are predictable. And they just did this for a paycheck.

COSTELLO: Oh, that just depresses me. So, let's talk about some Bulgarian love. O'NEIL: Well, this is a cute little arthouse movie. It's kind of a gay blue angel. A middle-aged lawyer falls for a young hot hustler, and it takes some unexpected twists when the hustler who comes from Bulgaria -- the movie is set in Spain -- gets married, goes home back to Spain, and his gay lover goes with him. It's OK. It's not as great as it probably could be. But of all of the choices this weekend, you might be better off with "Bulgarian Lovers."

COSTELLO: Or "Mean Girls."

O'NEIL: And certainly with the dog poo movie.

COSTELLO: I can't even believe that. Tom O'Neil, many thanks to you. We'll see you next Friday.

O'NEIL: Thanks, Carol.

COSTELLO: So, now we know why you don't go to the movies and pay seven bucks to get in.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Thanks goodness for Nascar once in a while, you know. Yikes!

Anyway, we ran out of time yesterday to give away the DAYBREAK coffee mug, because of all of that breaking news.

COSTELLO: Breaking news.

MYERS: Here were the questions that we asked you a long, long time ago.

Which two enemy combatants will have their cases heard before the Supreme Court? Which they've already done. But Yaser Hamdi, Jose Padilla.

Also, what are the two methods used to decaffeinate coffee? The Swiss water process and then just the chemical process, if you will, because we got a bunch of answers there.

And the winner -- the winner from Annandale, Virginia, Susan Pittman.

COSTELLO: Congratulations, Susan.

MYERS: Your mug, as they say, is in the mail.

And now, the question of the day. Get ready to type, type, type. Here we go.

What type of spacecraft just carried three space station crewmembers back to Earth?

And the second one -- you have to actually pay attention to the story here. What's the Google Company's slogan?

COSTELLO: What is the Google Company's slogan? I love the slogan, so we hope you get it. Daybreak@CNN.com. Daybreak@CNN.com. We'll announce the winners on Monday. We're not going to promise, but we will.

MYERS: Not me.

COSTELLO: Chad will join me for "The Lightning Round," but first the latest headlines for you.

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COSTELLO: Willie Nelson is 71.

MYERS: Waylon and Willie.

COSTELLO: It's something. It is time for our cheesy "Lightning Round."

MYERS: Ready.

COSTELLO: OK, who says 13 is an unlucky number, Chad? This hospital in -- I can't read now. This hospital in Illinois welcomed 13 baby girls all within 13 hours earlier this week.

MYERS: Oh, my!

COSTELLO: Can you believe that? After that, the cycle was broken. Baby 14 was a boy.

MYERS: Boy. Good.

COSTELLO: But he's probably enjoying himself with all those girls.

MYERS: Maybe and maybe not.

COSTELLO: Isn't that the kind of car I learned to drive in? Some driving schools in Germany actually let students get behind the wheel of a Ferrari. Student drivers behind the wheel of a Ferrari.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: If they get carried away, though, the instructor has a brake pedal.

MYERS: Oh, good. No, the other pedal, the other one.

COSTELLO: And if you're near New York City, you can see Ferraris galore at Rockefeller Center.

MYERS: Oh, nice.

COSTELLO: As the Italian carmaker celebrates 50 years in North America, more than a dozen Ferraris are on loan from private car collections for this display. It runs through May 2. How beautiful is that?

MYERS: The Ferraris are doing so well on the Formula One circuit this year. Man, just Michael Shumaker (ph) is the man.

COSTELLO: Have you driven one?

MYERS: Have I ever? I've never touched one. No. Sorry. I have a Ford Ranger pickup, Carol. Come on.

COSTELLO: I know. I know. I shouldn't have asked. But what a great experience that would be.

MYERS: It really would be, yes.

COSTELLO: From the CNN global headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Carol Costello, along with Chad Myers. "AMERICAN MORNING" starts right now.

MYERS: Have a great weekend, everybody.

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