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Aired June 18, 2004 - 07:40   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(WEATHER BREAK)

SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's turn to our business segment now -- Mr. Hemmer.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, buying drugs online we know is a big business. But buyer beware. We know that now, too. Andy is back with us now, also with a market preview.

Good morning.

O'BRIEN: Good morning.

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Good morning, you guys.

Of course, hundreds of thousands of Americans are buying drugs online more and more every day, prescription drugs from online pharmacies. But a new report from the government, from the General Accounting Office says you better watch your stuff. I mean, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff they uncovered.

They did a survey where they went online to pharmacies in the United States, Canada and also other countries. Here is what they found. Fake pills shipped. Fake pills shipped! You don't want fake pills! AIDS medication shipped in boxes. One box said, "gold dye and stain remover wax." Can you imagine getting your medication in there? No prescription needed.

One investigator said that it seems like the key thing here is simply having your credit card.

Now, to be fair to the Canadian pharmacies, these guys all seem to be above board. They all required written prescriptions from doctors as did the U.S. ones. Not so for other countries, such as Mexico, Thailand and Spain. Basically, you just get your credit card on there and bingo.

Of course, the drug companies are happy to hear this, because they've been warning about this kind of problem for months and months now. But obviously, it's a growing business and more -- not only people, but also constituencies like municipalities are looking to do this as well.

O'BRIEN: Wow! That's pretty shocking.

HEMMER: It's good to know.

SERWER: It is.

O'BRIEN: All right, thanks.

HEMMER: Thank you, Andy.

The funny man, Jon Stewart, comedy show, turned his wit on the upcoming Olympic Games this August in Athens, Greece. Here's from last night:

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JON STEWART, "THE JON STEWART SHOW": A representative of the International Olympic Committee says he's pleased with Athens' progress.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our experts have review construction aspects and are very satisfied that no single project is at risk. And we know that everything will be delivered on time.

STEWART: He added -- wait! Does that say 2004? I've got to go!

Even if the games do go as scheduled, some of America's top athletes won't be there to enjoy them. So far, 11 NBA stars have declined to play for the American basketball team, citing security concerns, weddings and pending rape trials.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HEMMER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) in 2004.

The mayor of Athens, Greece, was here in New York a few weeks ago. She is absolutely convinced with full confidence that they will have no problem getting things done.

O'BRIEN: That's what (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

HEMMER: The only thing they're chasing right now, they say, is the last leg of the marathon race to make sure the roads are paved and cleaned up and done the way they want them. That roof is on, which is a huge concern over that big stadium.

O'BRIEN: And then there are the hotel rooms, where to put everybody, security, over a billion dollars.

HEMMER: Yes, and they are spending an enormous amount of money on security. So, we'll see. Mid-August the games go down in Athens.

Let's get a break here. In a moment, thanks to a movie about a higher power, Mel Gibson experiences a power surge of his own. We'll explain that when we continue after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HEMMER: About 45 minutes past the hour. Again, that developing story from Moscow. Back to Heidi Collins for that and other news.

Heidi -- good morning.

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, Bill.

And that's right. We are keeping an eye on a story we told you about a little bit earlier this morning, a terror warning from Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin is saying today Russian intelligence warned Washington several times that Iraq planned terror strikes against the U.S. The timeframe involved? After the September 11 attacks but before the war in Iraq. We, of course, will continue to monitor this developing story.

Saudi officials are searching the capital city of Riyadh for American hostage Paul Johnson. With its 72-hour deadline looming, Johnson's wife is offering an emotional plea for his release.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

THANOM JOHNSON, HOSTAGE'S WIFE: I see him picture, our hearts go by. I thought about all the time about when I saw picture in the TV. When he say he name Paul Johnson, I feel so bad about that. I cry.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLLINS: The statement comes one day after one of Johnson's Saudi colleagues urged his captors to see free the American.

The first civilian is indicted in connection to the abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan, David Pasaro (ph) -- Passaro, that is, an independent contractor working for the CIA at a detention facility in Afghanistan. He's accused of beating to death an Afghan prisoner last year. Passaro will remain in custody depending on a detention hearing on Tuesday. Attorney General John Ashcroft says the case will be fully investigated.

A health note now: More teens are smoke-free these days. New data shows cigarette smoking among high schoolers it at the lowest point in more than 10 years. The report says smokers have fallen to about 1 in 5. The data is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

And "Forbes" magazine crowning Mel Gibson the most powerful celebrity in the world. Jennifer Aniston held the spot last year. The actor/director can thank his newest movie, "The Passion of Christ." It earned Gibson publicity buzz, as you know, at a whopping $210 million. Also on the list, Tiger Woods at No. 2, Oprah at No. 3, Tom Cruise and the Rolling Stones rounding out the top five. You've got to give it to the Stones, you know?

HEMMER: That, we do. I find this Vladimir Putin story very intriguing.

COLLINS: Yes.

HEMMER: But why are we only finding about this now? And why would he speak about it today?

O'BRIEN: A question about the timing, certainly.

HEMMER: So we'll see. Hopefully we'll get some answers, yes, throughout the morning here. Thanks, Heidi.

O'BRIEN: Still to come this morning, Madonna takes a page out of Prince's play book, changing her name and all. The "90-Second Pop" panel explains that up next as AMERICAN MORNING continues.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: We love vintage Madonna. We do. Her last concert, you know, she never sang anything old.

Welcome back, everybody, for "90-Second Pop" for a Friday. The stars are coming out this morning. B.J. Sigesmund is one, staff editor for "US Weekly" joining us. Jessica Shaw, another, from "Entertainment Weekly." And Josh Elliott, staff writer for "Sports Illustrated."

Welcome. Good morning.

B.J. SIGUSMUND, STAFF EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": Good morning.

JESSICA SHAW, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY": Good morning.

JOSH ELLIOTT, STAFF WRITER, "SPORTS ILLUSTRATED": Good morning.

O'BRIEN: I guess I should say, I saw Esther in concert a couple of years ago.

SHAW: Are you crazy (UNINTELLIGIBLE)?

SIGESMUND: A good one.

O'BRIEN: This is her new thing, is a new name.

SHAW: Yes, she has changed her name.

O'BRIEN: At least it's not a symbol. It could be worse.

SHAW: No, it's not a symbol. It's a real name, I can say from 12 years of Jewish education. Her name is now Esther for religious purposes.

SIGESMUND: Well, that just means, though, that she is going to be known as Esther in formal religious ceremonies. Walking down the street, business meetings, et cetera, on stage, she is Madonna.

SHAW: I'm going to call her Esther in business meetings, because I say own it. And, like, I think all of the celebrities who are now embracing kabala, they should take on the Jewish names. Like, I Ashton Kutcher to become Mortichi (ph), you know.

ELLIOTT: Yes, but if this is what she has to do to get us to buy tickets to go see her, it just wreaks of desperation.

O'BRIEN: So you think it's a PR -- do you think it's a PR stunt?

SIGESMUND: No, no, no.

ELLIOTT: Madonna a PR stunt? You've got to be kidding.

SIGESMUND: No.

O'BRIEN: Am I bad? Am I bad?

SIGESMUND: I actually think...

ELLIOTT: Breaking news on "90-Second Pop."

SIGESMUND: She is very serious about kabala. Now, look at over 20 years of Madonna and how she went through this stage and that stage. She sort of picked things up and dropped them so fast. Kabala, she's been into at least since 1998. She's been wearing that bracelet ever since then.

ELLIOTT: Right, ever since (UNINTELLIGIBLE) it's like 50 years.

SHAW: She is crediting kabala for sort of teaching her that she needs to instruct her children to clean up after themselves and things like that.

O'BRIEN: I saw that interview.

SHAW: So, you know, good for her that she needed kabala to teach her that lesson.

O'BRIEN: Well, you know, we all need a little of that in our life.

SHAW: Oh, don't we? Don't we?

O'BRIEN: Let's talk about this movie, "Dodgeball." It looks so funny.

SIGESMUND: "Dodgeball," yes.

O'BRIEN: Ben Stiller is in it and his wife.

SIGESMUND: And Vince Vaughn.

O'BRIEN: And Vince Vaughn.

SIGESMUND: Yes. They play two gym rats from rival gyms, who are both really into dodgeball. In fact, they go to a dodgeball competition in Las Vegas.

O'BRIEN: To win $50,000, the prize money?

SIGESMUND: Yes. It's like "Old School." You know, a colleague of mine saw it last night. SHAW: It's not like "Old School." It is.

SIGESMUND: Well, no it's not as good as "Old School," I was told.

O'BRIEN: You don't think it's...

SIGESMUND: But it's kind of that stupid humor that, you know, you just kind of turn off your brain and enjoy it for an hour and a half or so.

ELLIOTT: Here's my problem. I think Ben stiller is wonderfully funny, but when he plays the straight man from, you know, "Meet the Parents" or whatever...

O'BRIEN: Right.

ELLIOTT: ... when he's doing these characters and he's doing them, like, once a month...

SHAW: I know!

(CROSSTALK)

SIGESMUND: He is an absolute workaholic.

SHAW: "Starksy and Hutch," like it's all...

SIGESMUND: I'm worried about this guy.

O'BRIEN: So you think he's good when he's doing the straight man, but when he's doing characters, not as good?

ELLIOTT: Yes, not as good. He's...

(CROSSTALK)

SHAW: Let's face it, honey. You know, like -- I mean, I know he tried to be, you know, a real actor with "Permanent Midnight" a few years back, and that did not go well for him.

SIGESMUND: We know how well that went.

SHAW: But, I don't know. I'd like to see him reach a little without the mullet.

ELLIOTT: Or...

O'BRIEN: How about the movie, "The Terminal?"

SIGESMUND: "The Terminal," yes.

O'BRIEN: It has Tom Hanks and Catherine Zeta-Jones. I've got to tell you, I don't get it.

SIGESMUND: Here is what it's about. (CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: Wake up, Josh! We're talking about "The Terminal."

SIGESMUND: I saw it, and I thought it was pretty good. Tom Hanks plays this Eastern European guy...

O'BRIEN: Oh, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

(CROSSTALK)

SHAW: Victor Smirnoff (ph).

SIGESMUND: Yes, he's Victor Smirnoff (ph). He gets stuck at JFK, because his country -- there is a coup in his country, and he can't go back there for, you know, for months. So he actually lives at JFK airport and romances Catherine Zeta-Jones, who plays a flight attendant. Her role...

SHAW: Because airports are so exciting.

O'BRIEN: So who don't you want? I mean, I man who is stuck at an airport is the perfect boyfriend...

SHAW: Exactly!

O'BRIEN: ... when you're a flight attendant.

SIGESMUND: Yes.

O'BRIEN: All right, we're out of time. We've got to talk about one more thing, Josh, that I want to ask you about. "The Bachelor" versus "The Bachelorette." Jesse Palmer?

SHAW: Jesse Palmer.

ELLIOTT: Yes.

O'BRIEN: Can you -- I hate to tell you, guys. He broke up with Jessica!

ELLIOTT: Yes.

SIGESMUND: Jessica.

SHAW: Jessica.

ELLIOTT: Yes, OK.

SHAW: Jesse and Jessica.

ELLIOTT: OK, a stunning bit of news, and with apologies to Jack, because I have to agree with this. However, I just think all it really says is that the bachelors understand it's a fake show, and they're willing to do the, you know, necessary press.

O'BRIEN: Necessary things.

ELLIOTT: But, you know, I just think that, you know, it's...

O'BRIEN: But the women actually have turned out well. I mean, they've gotten engaged.

ELLIOTT: I would argue that maybe the women are just actually choosing somebody that might actually be, you know, compatible.

SHAW: Jesse Palmer is using this as, like, a social calling card. He is, like, I'm, you know, a quarterback. I was on TV.

(CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: He said, look -- I just want to read this part. He said his gut instinct was telling him they were meant to spend their lives together.

SIGESMUND: Oh, please!

SHAW: But you know what? He bought her a plane ticket. He never gave her a ring at the end of the show!

(CROSSTALK)

SIGESMUND: I have to call a spade a spade. Men don't like to commit until they are good and ready. And when you go on this show, you become an overnight sensation and women are fawning all over you everywhere. To be committed to a woman at that point is a nightmare for any guy.

SHAW: Don't try to...

SIGESMUND: I'm calling a spade a spade!

(CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: We're out of time. We're out of time.

ELLIOTT: And congratulations to Bill Hemmer!

O'BRIEN: We're out of time. Thank you.

HEMMER: For what?

ELLIOTT: For being that hot new "TV Guide" face, you sexy dog.

O'BRIEN: He is. He is. We love him.

SHAW: We know all about you now.

HEMMER: Is that dribble?

SHAW: That is breaking news!

SIGESMUND: That's no dribble. O'BRIEN: That's not the dribble part of this.

HEMMER: Thanks, guys. Thanks, Josh.

O'BRIEN: all right, you guys, thanks as always. Appreciate it -- Bill.

HEMMER: All right, Soledad.

In a moment here on AMERICAN MORNING, reports that Saddam Hussein planned to attack the U.S. before the war in Iraq. Where the warning originated might surprise you in a moment.

And why was juror No. 5 talking with Laci Peterson's brother? Back in a moment, top of the hour after this.

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Aired June 18, 2004 - 07:40   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(WEATHER BREAK)

SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's turn to our business segment now -- Mr. Hemmer.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, buying drugs online we know is a big business. But buyer beware. We know that now, too. Andy is back with us now, also with a market preview.

Good morning.

O'BRIEN: Good morning.

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Good morning, you guys.

Of course, hundreds of thousands of Americans are buying drugs online more and more every day, prescription drugs from online pharmacies. But a new report from the government, from the General Accounting Office says you better watch your stuff. I mean, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff they uncovered.

They did a survey where they went online to pharmacies in the United States, Canada and also other countries. Here is what they found. Fake pills shipped. Fake pills shipped! You don't want fake pills! AIDS medication shipped in boxes. One box said, "gold dye and stain remover wax." Can you imagine getting your medication in there? No prescription needed.

One investigator said that it seems like the key thing here is simply having your credit card.

Now, to be fair to the Canadian pharmacies, these guys all seem to be above board. They all required written prescriptions from doctors as did the U.S. ones. Not so for other countries, such as Mexico, Thailand and Spain. Basically, you just get your credit card on there and bingo.

Of course, the drug companies are happy to hear this, because they've been warning about this kind of problem for months and months now. But obviously, it's a growing business and more -- not only people, but also constituencies like municipalities are looking to do this as well.

O'BRIEN: Wow! That's pretty shocking.

HEMMER: It's good to know.

SERWER: It is.

O'BRIEN: All right, thanks.

HEMMER: Thank you, Andy.

The funny man, Jon Stewart, comedy show, turned his wit on the upcoming Olympic Games this August in Athens, Greece. Here's from last night:

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JON STEWART, "THE JON STEWART SHOW": A representative of the International Olympic Committee says he's pleased with Athens' progress.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our experts have review construction aspects and are very satisfied that no single project is at risk. And we know that everything will be delivered on time.

STEWART: He added -- wait! Does that say 2004? I've got to go!

Even if the games do go as scheduled, some of America's top athletes won't be there to enjoy them. So far, 11 NBA stars have declined to play for the American basketball team, citing security concerns, weddings and pending rape trials.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HEMMER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) in 2004.

The mayor of Athens, Greece, was here in New York a few weeks ago. She is absolutely convinced with full confidence that they will have no problem getting things done.

O'BRIEN: That's what (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

HEMMER: The only thing they're chasing right now, they say, is the last leg of the marathon race to make sure the roads are paved and cleaned up and done the way they want them. That roof is on, which is a huge concern over that big stadium.

O'BRIEN: And then there are the hotel rooms, where to put everybody, security, over a billion dollars.

HEMMER: Yes, and they are spending an enormous amount of money on security. So, we'll see. Mid-August the games go down in Athens.

Let's get a break here. In a moment, thanks to a movie about a higher power, Mel Gibson experiences a power surge of his own. We'll explain that when we continue after this.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HEMMER: About 45 minutes past the hour. Again, that developing story from Moscow. Back to Heidi Collins for that and other news.

Heidi -- good morning.

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, Bill.

And that's right. We are keeping an eye on a story we told you about a little bit earlier this morning, a terror warning from Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin is saying today Russian intelligence warned Washington several times that Iraq planned terror strikes against the U.S. The timeframe involved? After the September 11 attacks but before the war in Iraq. We, of course, will continue to monitor this developing story.

Saudi officials are searching the capital city of Riyadh for American hostage Paul Johnson. With its 72-hour deadline looming, Johnson's wife is offering an emotional plea for his release.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

THANOM JOHNSON, HOSTAGE'S WIFE: I see him picture, our hearts go by. I thought about all the time about when I saw picture in the TV. When he say he name Paul Johnson, I feel so bad about that. I cry.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLLINS: The statement comes one day after one of Johnson's Saudi colleagues urged his captors to see free the American.

The first civilian is indicted in connection to the abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan, David Pasaro (ph) -- Passaro, that is, an independent contractor working for the CIA at a detention facility in Afghanistan. He's accused of beating to death an Afghan prisoner last year. Passaro will remain in custody depending on a detention hearing on Tuesday. Attorney General John Ashcroft says the case will be fully investigated.

A health note now: More teens are smoke-free these days. New data shows cigarette smoking among high schoolers it at the lowest point in more than 10 years. The report says smokers have fallen to about 1 in 5. The data is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

And "Forbes" magazine crowning Mel Gibson the most powerful celebrity in the world. Jennifer Aniston held the spot last year. The actor/director can thank his newest movie, "The Passion of Christ." It earned Gibson publicity buzz, as you know, at a whopping $210 million. Also on the list, Tiger Woods at No. 2, Oprah at No. 3, Tom Cruise and the Rolling Stones rounding out the top five. You've got to give it to the Stones, you know?

HEMMER: That, we do. I find this Vladimir Putin story very intriguing.

COLLINS: Yes.

HEMMER: But why are we only finding about this now? And why would he speak about it today?

O'BRIEN: A question about the timing, certainly.

HEMMER: So we'll see. Hopefully we'll get some answers, yes, throughout the morning here. Thanks, Heidi.

O'BRIEN: Still to come this morning, Madonna takes a page out of Prince's play book, changing her name and all. The "90-Second Pop" panel explains that up next as AMERICAN MORNING continues.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

O'BRIEN: We love vintage Madonna. We do. Her last concert, you know, she never sang anything old.

Welcome back, everybody, for "90-Second Pop" for a Friday. The stars are coming out this morning. B.J. Sigesmund is one, staff editor for "US Weekly" joining us. Jessica Shaw, another, from "Entertainment Weekly." And Josh Elliott, staff writer for "Sports Illustrated."

Welcome. Good morning.

B.J. SIGUSMUND, STAFF EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": Good morning.

JESSICA SHAW, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY": Good morning.

JOSH ELLIOTT, STAFF WRITER, "SPORTS ILLUSTRATED": Good morning.

O'BRIEN: I guess I should say, I saw Esther in concert a couple of years ago.

SHAW: Are you crazy (UNINTELLIGIBLE)?

SIGESMUND: A good one.

O'BRIEN: This is her new thing, is a new name.

SHAW: Yes, she has changed her name.

O'BRIEN: At least it's not a symbol. It could be worse.

SHAW: No, it's not a symbol. It's a real name, I can say from 12 years of Jewish education. Her name is now Esther for religious purposes.

SIGESMUND: Well, that just means, though, that she is going to be known as Esther in formal religious ceremonies. Walking down the street, business meetings, et cetera, on stage, she is Madonna.

SHAW: I'm going to call her Esther in business meetings, because I say own it. And, like, I think all of the celebrities who are now embracing kabala, they should take on the Jewish names. Like, I Ashton Kutcher to become Mortichi (ph), you know.

ELLIOTT: Yes, but if this is what she has to do to get us to buy tickets to go see her, it just wreaks of desperation.

O'BRIEN: So you think it's a PR -- do you think it's a PR stunt?

SIGESMUND: No, no, no.

ELLIOTT: Madonna a PR stunt? You've got to be kidding.

SIGESMUND: No.

O'BRIEN: Am I bad? Am I bad?

SIGESMUND: I actually think...

ELLIOTT: Breaking news on "90-Second Pop."

SIGESMUND: She is very serious about kabala. Now, look at over 20 years of Madonna and how she went through this stage and that stage. She sort of picked things up and dropped them so fast. Kabala, she's been into at least since 1998. She's been wearing that bracelet ever since then.

ELLIOTT: Right, ever since (UNINTELLIGIBLE) it's like 50 years.

SHAW: She is crediting kabala for sort of teaching her that she needs to instruct her children to clean up after themselves and things like that.

O'BRIEN: I saw that interview.

SHAW: So, you know, good for her that she needed kabala to teach her that lesson.

O'BRIEN: Well, you know, we all need a little of that in our life.

SHAW: Oh, don't we? Don't we?

O'BRIEN: Let's talk about this movie, "Dodgeball." It looks so funny.

SIGESMUND: "Dodgeball," yes.

O'BRIEN: Ben Stiller is in it and his wife.

SIGESMUND: And Vince Vaughn.

O'BRIEN: And Vince Vaughn.

SIGESMUND: Yes. They play two gym rats from rival gyms, who are both really into dodgeball. In fact, they go to a dodgeball competition in Las Vegas.

O'BRIEN: To win $50,000, the prize money?

SIGESMUND: Yes. It's like "Old School." You know, a colleague of mine saw it last night. SHAW: It's not like "Old School." It is.

SIGESMUND: Well, no it's not as good as "Old School," I was told.

O'BRIEN: You don't think it's...

SIGESMUND: But it's kind of that stupid humor that, you know, you just kind of turn off your brain and enjoy it for an hour and a half or so.

ELLIOTT: Here's my problem. I think Ben stiller is wonderfully funny, but when he plays the straight man from, you know, "Meet the Parents" or whatever...

O'BRIEN: Right.

ELLIOTT: ... when he's doing these characters and he's doing them, like, once a month...

SHAW: I know!

(CROSSTALK)

SIGESMUND: He is an absolute workaholic.

SHAW: "Starksy and Hutch," like it's all...

SIGESMUND: I'm worried about this guy.

O'BRIEN: So you think he's good when he's doing the straight man, but when he's doing characters, not as good?

ELLIOTT: Yes, not as good. He's...

(CROSSTALK)

SHAW: Let's face it, honey. You know, like -- I mean, I know he tried to be, you know, a real actor with "Permanent Midnight" a few years back, and that did not go well for him.

SIGESMUND: We know how well that went.

SHAW: But, I don't know. I'd like to see him reach a little without the mullet.

ELLIOTT: Or...

O'BRIEN: How about the movie, "The Terminal?"

SIGESMUND: "The Terminal," yes.

O'BRIEN: It has Tom Hanks and Catherine Zeta-Jones. I've got to tell you, I don't get it.

SIGESMUND: Here is what it's about. (CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: Wake up, Josh! We're talking about "The Terminal."

SIGESMUND: I saw it, and I thought it was pretty good. Tom Hanks plays this Eastern European guy...

O'BRIEN: Oh, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

(CROSSTALK)

SHAW: Victor Smirnoff (ph).

SIGESMUND: Yes, he's Victor Smirnoff (ph). He gets stuck at JFK, because his country -- there is a coup in his country, and he can't go back there for, you know, for months. So he actually lives at JFK airport and romances Catherine Zeta-Jones, who plays a flight attendant. Her role...

SHAW: Because airports are so exciting.

O'BRIEN: So who don't you want? I mean, I man who is stuck at an airport is the perfect boyfriend...

SHAW: Exactly!

O'BRIEN: ... when you're a flight attendant.

SIGESMUND: Yes.

O'BRIEN: All right, we're out of time. We've got to talk about one more thing, Josh, that I want to ask you about. "The Bachelor" versus "The Bachelorette." Jesse Palmer?

SHAW: Jesse Palmer.

ELLIOTT: Yes.

O'BRIEN: Can you -- I hate to tell you, guys. He broke up with Jessica!

ELLIOTT: Yes.

SIGESMUND: Jessica.

SHAW: Jessica.

ELLIOTT: Yes, OK.

SHAW: Jesse and Jessica.

ELLIOTT: OK, a stunning bit of news, and with apologies to Jack, because I have to agree with this. However, I just think all it really says is that the bachelors understand it's a fake show, and they're willing to do the, you know, necessary press.

O'BRIEN: Necessary things.

ELLIOTT: But, you know, I just think that, you know, it's...

O'BRIEN: But the women actually have turned out well. I mean, they've gotten engaged.

ELLIOTT: I would argue that maybe the women are just actually choosing somebody that might actually be, you know, compatible.

SHAW: Jesse Palmer is using this as, like, a social calling card. He is, like, I'm, you know, a quarterback. I was on TV.

(CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: He said, look -- I just want to read this part. He said his gut instinct was telling him they were meant to spend their lives together.

SIGESMUND: Oh, please!

SHAW: But you know what? He bought her a plane ticket. He never gave her a ring at the end of the show!

(CROSSTALK)

SIGESMUND: I have to call a spade a spade. Men don't like to commit until they are good and ready. And when you go on this show, you become an overnight sensation and women are fawning all over you everywhere. To be committed to a woman at that point is a nightmare for any guy.

SHAW: Don't try to...

SIGESMUND: I'm calling a spade a spade!

(CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: We're out of time. We're out of time.

ELLIOTT: And congratulations to Bill Hemmer!

O'BRIEN: We're out of time. Thank you.

HEMMER: For what?

ELLIOTT: For being that hot new "TV Guide" face, you sexy dog.

O'BRIEN: He is. He is. We love him.

SHAW: We know all about you now.

HEMMER: Is that dribble?

SHAW: That is breaking news!

SIGESMUND: That's no dribble. O'BRIEN: That's not the dribble part of this.

HEMMER: Thanks, guys. Thanks, Josh.

O'BRIEN: all right, you guys, thanks as always. Appreciate it -- Bill.

HEMMER: All right, Soledad.

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