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Insurgents on the Attack in Iraq; 'The Nader Effect'
Aired July 02, 2004 - 06:00 ET
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Less than 24 hours after Saddam Hussein appears in court, multiple explosions on the streets of Baghdad.
It is Friday, July 2.
This is DAYBREAK.
And good morning to you.
Happy Friday.
From the CNN global headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Carol Costello.
Here are the latest headlines for you now.
Rocket attacks rock central Baghdad. You're looking at new pictures into us just about an hour ago. The target -- hotels where international journalists and contractors stay. Two Iraqis were wounded.
A moderate earthquake leaves at least 18 people dead and 50 others injured in Turkey. The quake was centered in eastern Turkey, near the Iranian border.
In money news, the Labor Department releases its assessment of the U.S. job market about two and a half hours from now. Economists estimate about a quarter million jobs were created in June, with the unemployment rate holding at 5.6 percent.
In culture, groundbreaking at ground zero. Construction of the new World Trade Center begins Sunday, on the Fourth of July. The highlight of the ceremony will be the laying of stone from the Adirondack Mountains.
And in sports, the Duke head basketball coach met with the Los Angeles Lakers' brass about their coaching vacancy. But Duke's athletic director says no way is Coach K. going to L.A. Ooh, that rhymes.
CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, yes. It was pretty good there, Carol.
COSTELLO: Thanks.
MYERS: Hey, good morning, everybody.
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COSTELLO: Let's talk about Iraq now. Insurgents are on the attack there. This morning, they targeted a couple of Baghdad hotels, but the attacks have backfired.
Let's take you live to Baghdad now and Brent Sadler for more details -- hello, Brent.
BRENT SADLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello.
Good morning, Carol.
Yes, a rocket attack. One of the projectiles hit the Sheraton Hotel, which is very close to where CNN and other international journalists are based. No casualties in the Sheraton Hotel, but the 10th floor was hit and there was some light damage up there. Another rocket from the same firing position veered off from the launch site and went towards the Baghdad Hotel, north of here. That impacted in a car park there, set a vehicle ablaze and injured two Iraqis there.
Now, there were seven other rockets that did not go off. The reason why is that the rack holding the launch tubes collapsed on the first firings and other missiles simply hit the ground and exploded, causing no damage and no injuries. So a lucky escape there.
In other news today, Iraqis are digesting the aftermath of what happened with the appearance of the former leader here, Saddam Hussein, who appeared in court for about 30 minutes. A lot of surprise that Saddam Hussein was really able to control the proceedings at times, often being defiant, showing contempt for the judge, saying that he was still considering himself to be the president of the Republic of Iraq, because that was the will of the people; the occupation had no right to strip him of those powers. He refused to sign minutes of the proceedings and was very combative throughout the hearing.
Iraqis on the ground telling us that they were surprised that he wasn't in prison clothing, he wasn't appearing in shackles or chains, although they had been put on him before he got to the court. They were taken off. And really many Iraqis saying that a fair trial is simply too fair for the levels of crimes which have been leveled against the former dictator -- Carol.
COSTELLO: Brent Sadler live in Baghdad this morning.
Thank you.
And Brent was talking about the video of Saddam Hussein in court. It was seen around the world. But some legal experts in this country question whether the Iraqi court proceedings are entirely legitimate.
CNN's Adaora Udoji reports.
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ADAORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Saddam Hussein faced an Iraqi judge, but some question its substance.
JONATHAN TEPPERMAN, "FOREIGN AFFAIRS" MAGAZINE: What we saw today was sort of a quasi legal and a symbolic hearing.
UDOJI: The former president wasn't indicted by the Iraqi special tribunal. The special court, funded by $75 million U.S., merely laid out seven accusations of atrocities. The tribunal's evolving procedures, some say a confusing combination of Iraqi and international law.
DAVID SCHEFFER, FORMER AMBASSADOR, WAR CRIMES ISSUES: A lot of things that actually contradict criminal law in Iraq are in the statute.
UDOJI: Many analysts were surprised Saddam Hussein appeared without a lawyer. His wife hired a team of 20 he's not met. One of them was outraged.
TIM HUGHES, SADDAM HUSSEIN'S LAWYER: That's a fundamental right and that's been denied.
MOUWAFFAK AL RUBAIE, IRAQI INTERNATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: Saddam would be given every right to defend himself. Saddam will be the given the right to appoint an attorney for himself.
UDOJI: There are also questions about who will prosecute and judge his trial. The senior editor of "Foreign Affairs" magazine says staffing's not complete, that recruitment is tough because insurgents are targeting law enforcement. Who's gathering evidence, sifting through tens of thousands of documents and rounding up witnesses?
TEPPERMAN: The FBI is leading the investigation and I think it's getting help from the U.S. Marshals and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms simply because they haven't found enough Iraqis who can lead a competent investigation.
UDOJI: The White House insists the U.S. is only supporting the new Iraqi government. But analysts warn the U.S. must be careful, saying there's a thin line between giving support and being seen as directing the proceedings.
TEPPERMAN: The heavier that the American hand sits on the shoulder of the Iraqi tribunal, the less legitimacy that this will have.
UDOJI: Legitimacy is crucial for the new government, to prove they deserve the trust of the Iraqi people. No date has been set for Saddam's trial.
Adaora Udoji, CNN, New York.
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COSTELLO: And for more on the legal proceedings against Saddam Hussein, visit cnn.com. New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson is saying no thank you to the prospect of becoming John Kerry's choice for vice president. Richardson had been told he was one of the finalists for the post. Kerry's short list of nominees is thought to include North Carolina Senator John Edwards, Missouri Congressman Dick Gephardt and Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack.
One name the Democrats would like to avoid is Ralph Nader. Nader is in the middle of a tug of war between Democrats and Republicans over his inclusion on the ballot in at least one key state.
CNN "INSIDE POLITICS" host Judy Woodruff has more on the Nader effect.
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HOWARD DEAN (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Ralph Nader's candidacy is the single biggest danger to the Kerry candidacy.
JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It may be the only thing Howard Dean and Republicans can agree on -- Ralph Nader, political maverick, could siphon votes from John Kerry and possibly cost Democrats the White House again.
Nader is on the ballot in six states now -- Michigan, Mississippi, Colorado, Kansas, Montana, oh, yes, and Florida, too. He was hoping a Green Party endorsement would spread his reach across at least 23 states.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ooh, that red, white and blue.
WOODRUFF: But the Greens threw their support elsewhere. And now some conservatives are working on behalf of the long time liberal.
MATT KIBBE, PRESIDENT, CITIZENS FOR A SOUND ECONOMY: You know, frankly our strategy was to split the liberal base.
WOODRUFF: In Oregon, the Citizens Committee for A Sound Economy, a Washington based anti-tax group, and the Oregon Family Council, an organization of Christian conservatives, have launched an all out effort to get Nader on the ballot.
KIBBE: What we are doing is asking citizens of Oregon to show up and participate in the political debate about who will be on the ballot for president.
WOODRUFF: In 2000, Al Gore squeaked by George W. Bush in the state by fewer than 7,000 votes. Polls show this year's margin is razor thin and Nader could make the difference in Oregon. But the conservative groups are thinking bigger.
KIBBE: We're looking at all the swing states.
WOODRUFF: A Bush-Cheney spokeswoman spoke glowingly of the effort. She said no campaign staffers were involved, but wouldn't rule out that Bush-Cheney volunteers helped. Democrats, for their part, are crying foul.
JANO CABRERA, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, DNC: Republicans are doing this because they want to help elect Bush into office. And they're using Ralph Nader as a means to achieve an end.
WOODRUFF: And what does Nader think? Well, he's angry at Democrats, whom he says are using dirty tricks to dissuade Oregonians from signing his petitions.
RALPH NADER (I), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They want to censor and stifle and sabotage the opportunity for tens of thousands of Oregonian voters to vote for the candidates of their choice.
WOODRUFF: The DNC says it's anyone's right to try to convince voters not to bond with Ralph Nader.
Judy Woodruff, CNN, reporting.
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COSTELLO: This morning, CNN will carry live remarks from President Bush on the economy. That will take place at 10:55 Eastern.
And still to come on DAYBREAK, interrogating Saddam Hussein -- what has he said since his capture and was it a mistake to televise his appearance before an Iraqi judge?
And then Bill Cosby referring to troubled children as dirty laundry? We'll put his latest controversial comments into context.
And later, everything you need to know ahead of the Fourth of July festivities, from fireworks safety to having a healthy picnic.
This is DAYBREAK for July 2.
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COSTELLO: We don't need to tell you this. A record number of people are expected to travel this holiday weekend and most of them will travel by car. A new report cautions drivers to be extra careful this weekend.
With more on the traveling public, we take you live to Rockville, Maryland and CNN's Julie Vallese -- good morning, Julie.
JULIE VALLESE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Carol.
Some of the information you're about to hear will probably be very sobering to anyone getting out on the road this holiday weekend. Each day, every hour on the nation's roadways, more than four people die. But around this July 4th holiday weekend, the risk to travelers skyrockets.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) VALLESE (voice-over): More than 39 million Americans will travel this July 4th holiday weekend, the majority, 34 million, by car, making the nation's roadways crowded and deadly.
SUE FERGUSON, INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY: I don't think we realize that the cost of motor vehicle travel and the risks associated with it are higher than any other form of transportation.
VALLESE: On average, 117 people die each day on America's roadways. But this weekend, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, is the deadliest.
FERGUSON: The number one day for motor vehicle fatalities is July 4th. And actually, July 2 and 3 come in very close behind.
VALLESE: Seventeen years of crash data reviewed by the Institute found, on average, 161 people died on July 4; another 149 on July 3. There are two major contributing factors -- the sheer number of cars on the road being the first. And the second...
FERGUSON: The number of drivers who have high levels of alcohol in their blood are much higher on July 4 than other days.
VALLESE: The only day with more crashes due to drinking and driving is new year's.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VALLESE: Now, with July 4 falling on a Sunday this year, there is a triple threat on the road. More fatalities occur on Saturdays than any other day of the week, followed by Friday and Sunday -- Carol.
COSTELLO: Julie Vallese reporting live from Rockville, Maryland this morning.
Thank you.
Your news, money, weather and sports.
It's 6:14 Eastern.
Here's what's all new this morning.
Secretary of State Colin Powell talks nukes with North Korea's foreign minister. The two met at the Asian Security Conference in Indonesia. Multinational talks earlier this month produced no real results.
It looks like national elections in Afghanistan will be put off again. They were originally scheduled for June, but were moved to September. Now a top government official says voting might not happen until October. The U.N. says militias still need to be disarmed.
In money news, Qwest Communications is making a deal with wireless provider Verizon worth more than $400 million. Qwest will sell equipment and licenses to Verizon as part of a plan to open a nationwide network.
In culture, it was 40 years ago today that President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law. The Congressional Black Caucus is planning a ceremony on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to remember the event.
And in sports, Lance Armstrong begins the quest tomorrow for his sixth straight Tour de France title. But today a court will rule on Armstrong's appeal against publishers of a book that alleges he used performance enhancing drugs during some of his previous tours -- Chad.
MYERS: Good morning, Carol.
Obviously a big weekend for race fans down in Daytona. The old, what used to be called the Firecracker 400 coming up this weekend.
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COSTELLO: Those are the latest headlines for you this morning.
Time now for a little business buzz.
You won't be able to order an iMac this summer.
Carrie Lee is live at the NASDAQ market site.
Why?
CARRIE LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, not the new models, anyway, Carol. Apple Computer is planning for a next generation iMac desktop computer, but they're not going to ship these new models until September. So missing their original internal schedule.
Now, the company also says it's stopped taking orders for the current iMac, where sales have slowed in recent quarters. They're not giving too many details about the new models. They do concede, though, that their planning was obviously less than perfect. That's a direct quote. And there is some Wall Street speculation that maybe Apple had a hard time getting certain parts from suppliers for things like the flat panel displays that they use.
Meanwhile, the stock last night, when this news came out, dropped significantly. Shares were down about six percent in the after hours session. So we'll see what Apple's shares do today.
So far, though, Carol, on Wall Street, looking like a pretty flat open. Technology issues could open a little bit higher. The big thing on Wall Street today, the June jobs report. The employment rate expected to hold steady at 5.6 percent. We're expected to have added about 250,000 jobs during the month. You know a lot of people have been focusing on the employment aspects of our economy. So that's going to be the big thing coming at 8:30 Eastern today.
COSTELLO: Well, we'll keep our eyes open.
Carrie Lee live from the NASDAQ market site. Thank you.
Still to come on DAYBREAK, Bill Cosby on parents, children and race. Hear what he said this time with Jesse Jackson by his side.
And then dieters, don't worry -- you can have a treat, but not cheat at those backyard barbecues this weekend.
And our DAYBREAK Photo of the Day. What is it? We'll tell you, when we come back.
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COSTELLO: Where did that come from? That is not your traditional Fourth of July music.
HOLLY FIRFER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In some parts of the world.
MYERS: Exactly.
COSTELLO: Anyway, your Fourth of July feast probably won't rival the Thanksgiving pig-out, but a traditional summer cookout menu can blow your calorie count.
CNN health correspondent Holly Firfer is here to share some ways to celebrate this weekend and still feel good about putting on that bathing suit, kind of.
FIRFER: Should we point out that she's eating potato chips right now?
MYERS: Yes, real ones, too.
FIRFER: We don't want to put a damper on the holidays, but we thought, you know, let's see what we're eating. Let's see how much you're taking in in calories, fat and even carbs, if you're watching your diet. And we put together some traditional foods and I want to run you through the numbers.
You know, you go to the barbecue, you have a hot dog, say; baked beans; potato salad; coleslaw. Here's what you get. Hot dog, 15 grams of fat, 180 calories, five carbs. Not bad. Add the bun, you're adding 21 grams of carbs, 110 calories, 1.5 grams of fat.
Potato salad, 12 grams of fat, 210 calories, 23 grams -- you can see it all up there -- coleslaw...
COSTELLO: Wow!
FIRFER: ... 15 grams of carbs. Baked beans...
MYERS: Ooh. Where does that come from, sugar in the coleslaw?
FIRFER: There's a lot of sugar in coleslaw. There's a lot of sugar in baked beans.
MYERS: Absolutely.
FIRFER: Baked beans only have half a gram of fat, but they have 26 grams of carbs.
COSTELLO: Wow! And you have to wonder what the heck's in the hot dog, because I've always wondered what hot dogs exactly are made of.
FIRFER: I don't know what's in there, Carol.
MYERS: Don't go there. We really don't want to know.
COSTELLO: OK, I won't. No problem.
FIRFER: Potato chips, Carol, what you have in your hand, for 12 potato chips -- and Emily the producer counted each one out -- 12 grams of fat, 150 calories, 14 grams of carbs.
COSTELLO: Really?
MYERS: Wow!
FIRFER: That plate right there, a grand total of 51 grams of fat, 950 calories, 104 grams of...
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MYERS: Well, now, that's going to feed a fourth-grader.
FIRFER: And you know you're going back to the table, don't you?
OK, now -- and, also, don't forget, you're going to add stuff to it. Let me get my little notes here. You have ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise, relish.
MYERS: Oh, right.
FIRFER: You're going to add a lot to -- let me see my notes here.
COSTELLO: To the horrible number of calories.
MYERS: You're depressing me.
FIRFER: Yes, exactly.
COSTELLO: I know.
FIRFER: You're going to add calories.
COSTELLO: You're taking the fun out of the Fourth of July, Holly.
FIRFER: Sorry about that.
But then you can go healthier. Now, not everybody wants to have chicken. You know, oh, there's a good alternative, chicken. Well, I've got to be honest with you, I'm a little tired of chicken myself. So we went to the store and found barbecue. Barbecue is actually low fat, no fat in this barbecue, 60 calories, 14 grams of carbs. So you don't have to go with the, you know, non-meat if you really want to be a meat eater.
You also have, you know, you add your bun, you're going to add some carbs. So if you want, have it without the carbs.
COSTELLO: Look at the expression on Chad's face. He's like horrified. He's like what is that green stuff on that plate?
FIRFER: It's good.
MYERS: What's this?
FIRFER: Well, you know what that is? OK, that's broccoli slaw. Now, there is no fat in that...
COSTELLO: Broccoli?
MYERS: I've had it.
FIRFER: Twenty-five carbs...
MYERS: It's awesome.
FIRFER: Yes?
MYERS: My wife gave this stuff to me the other day with my, I don't know, it was probably just like some oil on it or, you know, some vinegar on top.
FIRFER: Yes.
MYERS: It was really good.
FIRFER: Well, that's why I brought fat-free dressing here, because you can put fat-free dressing on it and you add no fat to it. You've got to remember you're going to add calories, you're going to add some carbs, but a great alternative. And baked chips, you know, versus 10 grams of fat, three and a half grams of fat for baked chips. And there's still a lot of carbs, 21 carbs, grams of carbs, if you're watching. But this whole meal here is only seven grams of fat, 375 calories, 66 grams of carbs. It's not a lot of food...
MYERS: So...
FIRFER: You will go back.
MYERS: So there's room for beer.
FIRFER: Yes. And speaking of that beer, beer has no fat. No fat.
MYERS: It's a liquid granola bar. FIRFER: There you go, 150 calories, 11 and a half grams of carbs, just so you know, for that beer.
MYERS: Yes, yes.
FIRFER: And we skipped ahead and the other, this, there's a lemonade type drink, the sweet drink, 38 grams of carbs.
MYERS: Lots of sugar.
FIRFER: Remember, there's a lot of sugar in this, too. And 22 grams in this. But remember...
COSTELLO: What is this?
FIRFER: ... there's also alcohol. It's actually a really good flavored new little vodka drink.
COSTELLO: Oh.
FIRFER: And can we get to my favorite dessert, only because it's late?
COSTELLO: Look at Holly.
MYERS: Oh, sure. Yes.
COSTELLO: Go Holly.
FIRFER: I've got it all covered.
Dessert, apple pie, right? Holidays, apple pie. Thirteen grams of fat in one slice, 260 calories, 33 grams of carbs. I'm sorry.
MYERS: So how many beers is that equal to?
FIRFER: Too many. Strawberry cheesecake, which, for some reason in our family, that was a tradition, 18 grams of fat, 280 calories, 25 grams of carbs.
COSTELLO: No.
FIRFER: I'm a sweet person, so people go well, it's nice berry season, it's fruit, you know, anti-oxidants. All right, I need something creamy. I need something that tastes good. That strawberry parfait has two grams of fat, 90 calories, 18 grams of carbs. And you feel like you're eating dessert.
COSTELLO: Did you make that with a Jell-O mold?
FIRFER: I did not. But I could say that I did.
COSTELLO: It's beautiful.
MYERS: That's pretty impressive, right?
FIRFER: It means you know me better.
And just to let everybody know, as always, cook your burgers to 160 degrees.
MYERS: Yes.
FIRFER: You know, we've got to talk about safety.
MYERS: Obviously.
FIRFER: Chicken to 170 degrees. Keep all of your fish, your meat, your poultry, all of those things, your cheese, even, chilled below 40 degrees if you're going to take it out. And whatever you don't eat within an hour that hasn't been refrigerated, get rid of. Do not take the chance. It's not worth being sick on the holiday.
COSTELLO: It's just not worth having a picnic. You just made me feel so guilty. But I'm going to eat these potato chips as we go to a break.
MYERS: Go right ahead. There you go.
COSTELLO: Coming up, Bill Cosby. Did you hear what he said this time? Boy, he got all riled up. Listen.
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BILL COSBY, COMEDIAN: We're going to call each other names of ugliness. Comedians coming on TV, I'm so ugly, you're ugly, oh, yes, yes, that's all minstrel show stuff.
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COSTELLO: Hear what else Bill Cosby had to say to a big crowd last night.
And a freak accident involving a teenagers and a cell phone. And, no, she was not driving. This thing exploded.
Then, if you're planning on a backyard show for the 4th, stick around to see what's legal and what's safe.
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Less than 24 hours after Saddam Hussein appears in court, multiple explosions on the streets of Baghdad.
It is Friday, July 2.
This is DAYBREAK.
And good morning to you.
Happy Friday.
From the CNN global headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Carol Costello.
Here are the latest headlines for you now.
Rocket attacks rock central Baghdad. You're looking at new pictures into us just about an hour ago. The target -- hotels where international journalists and contractors stay. Two Iraqis were wounded.
A moderate earthquake leaves at least 18 people dead and 50 others injured in Turkey. The quake was centered in eastern Turkey, near the Iranian border.
In money news, the Labor Department releases its assessment of the U.S. job market about two and a half hours from now. Economists estimate about a quarter million jobs were created in June, with the unemployment rate holding at 5.6 percent.
In culture, groundbreaking at ground zero. Construction of the new World Trade Center begins Sunday, on the Fourth of July. The highlight of the ceremony will be the laying of stone from the Adirondack Mountains.
And in sports, the Duke head basketball coach met with the Los Angeles Lakers' brass about their coaching vacancy. But Duke's athletic director says no way is Coach K. going to L.A. Ooh, that rhymes.
CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, yes. It was pretty good there, Carol.
COSTELLO: Thanks.
MYERS: Hey, good morning, everybody.
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COSTELLO: Let's talk about Iraq now. Insurgents are on the attack there. This morning, they targeted a couple of Baghdad hotels, but the attacks have backfired.
Let's take you live to Baghdad now and Brent Sadler for more details -- hello, Brent.
BRENT SADLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello.
Good morning, Carol.
Yes, a rocket attack. One of the projectiles hit the Sheraton Hotel, which is very close to where CNN and other international journalists are based. No casualties in the Sheraton Hotel, but the 10th floor was hit and there was some light damage up there. Another rocket from the same firing position veered off from the launch site and went towards the Baghdad Hotel, north of here. That impacted in a car park there, set a vehicle ablaze and injured two Iraqis there.
Now, there were seven other rockets that did not go off. The reason why is that the rack holding the launch tubes collapsed on the first firings and other missiles simply hit the ground and exploded, causing no damage and no injuries. So a lucky escape there.
In other news today, Iraqis are digesting the aftermath of what happened with the appearance of the former leader here, Saddam Hussein, who appeared in court for about 30 minutes. A lot of surprise that Saddam Hussein was really able to control the proceedings at times, often being defiant, showing contempt for the judge, saying that he was still considering himself to be the president of the Republic of Iraq, because that was the will of the people; the occupation had no right to strip him of those powers. He refused to sign minutes of the proceedings and was very combative throughout the hearing.
Iraqis on the ground telling us that they were surprised that he wasn't in prison clothing, he wasn't appearing in shackles or chains, although they had been put on him before he got to the court. They were taken off. And really many Iraqis saying that a fair trial is simply too fair for the levels of crimes which have been leveled against the former dictator -- Carol.
COSTELLO: Brent Sadler live in Baghdad this morning.
Thank you.
And Brent was talking about the video of Saddam Hussein in court. It was seen around the world. But some legal experts in this country question whether the Iraqi court proceedings are entirely legitimate.
CNN's Adaora Udoji reports.
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ADAORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Saddam Hussein faced an Iraqi judge, but some question its substance.
JONATHAN TEPPERMAN, "FOREIGN AFFAIRS" MAGAZINE: What we saw today was sort of a quasi legal and a symbolic hearing.
UDOJI: The former president wasn't indicted by the Iraqi special tribunal. The special court, funded by $75 million U.S., merely laid out seven accusations of atrocities. The tribunal's evolving procedures, some say a confusing combination of Iraqi and international law.
DAVID SCHEFFER, FORMER AMBASSADOR, WAR CRIMES ISSUES: A lot of things that actually contradict criminal law in Iraq are in the statute.
UDOJI: Many analysts were surprised Saddam Hussein appeared without a lawyer. His wife hired a team of 20 he's not met. One of them was outraged.
TIM HUGHES, SADDAM HUSSEIN'S LAWYER: That's a fundamental right and that's been denied.
MOUWAFFAK AL RUBAIE, IRAQI INTERNATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: Saddam would be given every right to defend himself. Saddam will be the given the right to appoint an attorney for himself.
UDOJI: There are also questions about who will prosecute and judge his trial. The senior editor of "Foreign Affairs" magazine says staffing's not complete, that recruitment is tough because insurgents are targeting law enforcement. Who's gathering evidence, sifting through tens of thousands of documents and rounding up witnesses?
TEPPERMAN: The FBI is leading the investigation and I think it's getting help from the U.S. Marshals and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms simply because they haven't found enough Iraqis who can lead a competent investigation.
UDOJI: The White House insists the U.S. is only supporting the new Iraqi government. But analysts warn the U.S. must be careful, saying there's a thin line between giving support and being seen as directing the proceedings.
TEPPERMAN: The heavier that the American hand sits on the shoulder of the Iraqi tribunal, the less legitimacy that this will have.
UDOJI: Legitimacy is crucial for the new government, to prove they deserve the trust of the Iraqi people. No date has been set for Saddam's trial.
Adaora Udoji, CNN, New York.
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COSTELLO: And for more on the legal proceedings against Saddam Hussein, visit cnn.com. New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson is saying no thank you to the prospect of becoming John Kerry's choice for vice president. Richardson had been told he was one of the finalists for the post. Kerry's short list of nominees is thought to include North Carolina Senator John Edwards, Missouri Congressman Dick Gephardt and Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack.
One name the Democrats would like to avoid is Ralph Nader. Nader is in the middle of a tug of war between Democrats and Republicans over his inclusion on the ballot in at least one key state.
CNN "INSIDE POLITICS" host Judy Woodruff has more on the Nader effect.
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HOWARD DEAN (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Ralph Nader's candidacy is the single biggest danger to the Kerry candidacy.
JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It may be the only thing Howard Dean and Republicans can agree on -- Ralph Nader, political maverick, could siphon votes from John Kerry and possibly cost Democrats the White House again.
Nader is on the ballot in six states now -- Michigan, Mississippi, Colorado, Kansas, Montana, oh, yes, and Florida, too. He was hoping a Green Party endorsement would spread his reach across at least 23 states.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ooh, that red, white and blue.
WOODRUFF: But the Greens threw their support elsewhere. And now some conservatives are working on behalf of the long time liberal.
MATT KIBBE, PRESIDENT, CITIZENS FOR A SOUND ECONOMY: You know, frankly our strategy was to split the liberal base.
WOODRUFF: In Oregon, the Citizens Committee for A Sound Economy, a Washington based anti-tax group, and the Oregon Family Council, an organization of Christian conservatives, have launched an all out effort to get Nader on the ballot.
KIBBE: What we are doing is asking citizens of Oregon to show up and participate in the political debate about who will be on the ballot for president.
WOODRUFF: In 2000, Al Gore squeaked by George W. Bush in the state by fewer than 7,000 votes. Polls show this year's margin is razor thin and Nader could make the difference in Oregon. But the conservative groups are thinking bigger.
KIBBE: We're looking at all the swing states.
WOODRUFF: A Bush-Cheney spokeswoman spoke glowingly of the effort. She said no campaign staffers were involved, but wouldn't rule out that Bush-Cheney volunteers helped. Democrats, for their part, are crying foul.
JANO CABRERA, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, DNC: Republicans are doing this because they want to help elect Bush into office. And they're using Ralph Nader as a means to achieve an end.
WOODRUFF: And what does Nader think? Well, he's angry at Democrats, whom he says are using dirty tricks to dissuade Oregonians from signing his petitions.
RALPH NADER (I), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They want to censor and stifle and sabotage the opportunity for tens of thousands of Oregonian voters to vote for the candidates of their choice.
WOODRUFF: The DNC says it's anyone's right to try to convince voters not to bond with Ralph Nader.
Judy Woodruff, CNN, reporting.
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COSTELLO: This morning, CNN will carry live remarks from President Bush on the economy. That will take place at 10:55 Eastern.
And still to come on DAYBREAK, interrogating Saddam Hussein -- what has he said since his capture and was it a mistake to televise his appearance before an Iraqi judge?
And then Bill Cosby referring to troubled children as dirty laundry? We'll put his latest controversial comments into context.
And later, everything you need to know ahead of the Fourth of July festivities, from fireworks safety to having a healthy picnic.
This is DAYBREAK for July 2.
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COSTELLO: We don't need to tell you this. A record number of people are expected to travel this holiday weekend and most of them will travel by car. A new report cautions drivers to be extra careful this weekend.
With more on the traveling public, we take you live to Rockville, Maryland and CNN's Julie Vallese -- good morning, Julie.
JULIE VALLESE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Carol.
Some of the information you're about to hear will probably be very sobering to anyone getting out on the road this holiday weekend. Each day, every hour on the nation's roadways, more than four people die. But around this July 4th holiday weekend, the risk to travelers skyrockets.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) VALLESE (voice-over): More than 39 million Americans will travel this July 4th holiday weekend, the majority, 34 million, by car, making the nation's roadways crowded and deadly.
SUE FERGUSON, INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY: I don't think we realize that the cost of motor vehicle travel and the risks associated with it are higher than any other form of transportation.
VALLESE: On average, 117 people die each day on America's roadways. But this weekend, according to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, is the deadliest.
FERGUSON: The number one day for motor vehicle fatalities is July 4th. And actually, July 2 and 3 come in very close behind.
VALLESE: Seventeen years of crash data reviewed by the Institute found, on average, 161 people died on July 4; another 149 on July 3. There are two major contributing factors -- the sheer number of cars on the road being the first. And the second...
FERGUSON: The number of drivers who have high levels of alcohol in their blood are much higher on July 4 than other days.
VALLESE: The only day with more crashes due to drinking and driving is new year's.
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VALLESE: Now, with July 4 falling on a Sunday this year, there is a triple threat on the road. More fatalities occur on Saturdays than any other day of the week, followed by Friday and Sunday -- Carol.
COSTELLO: Julie Vallese reporting live from Rockville, Maryland this morning.
Thank you.
Your news, money, weather and sports.
It's 6:14 Eastern.
Here's what's all new this morning.
Secretary of State Colin Powell talks nukes with North Korea's foreign minister. The two met at the Asian Security Conference in Indonesia. Multinational talks earlier this month produced no real results.
It looks like national elections in Afghanistan will be put off again. They were originally scheduled for June, but were moved to September. Now a top government official says voting might not happen until October. The U.N. says militias still need to be disarmed.
In money news, Qwest Communications is making a deal with wireless provider Verizon worth more than $400 million. Qwest will sell equipment and licenses to Verizon as part of a plan to open a nationwide network.
In culture, it was 40 years ago today that President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law. The Congressional Black Caucus is planning a ceremony on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to remember the event.
And in sports, Lance Armstrong begins the quest tomorrow for his sixth straight Tour de France title. But today a court will rule on Armstrong's appeal against publishers of a book that alleges he used performance enhancing drugs during some of his previous tours -- Chad.
MYERS: Good morning, Carol.
Obviously a big weekend for race fans down in Daytona. The old, what used to be called the Firecracker 400 coming up this weekend.
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COSTELLO: Those are the latest headlines for you this morning.
Time now for a little business buzz.
You won't be able to order an iMac this summer.
Carrie Lee is live at the NASDAQ market site.
Why?
CARRIE LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, not the new models, anyway, Carol. Apple Computer is planning for a next generation iMac desktop computer, but they're not going to ship these new models until September. So missing their original internal schedule.
Now, the company also says it's stopped taking orders for the current iMac, where sales have slowed in recent quarters. They're not giving too many details about the new models. They do concede, though, that their planning was obviously less than perfect. That's a direct quote. And there is some Wall Street speculation that maybe Apple had a hard time getting certain parts from suppliers for things like the flat panel displays that they use.
Meanwhile, the stock last night, when this news came out, dropped significantly. Shares were down about six percent in the after hours session. So we'll see what Apple's shares do today.
So far, though, Carol, on Wall Street, looking like a pretty flat open. Technology issues could open a little bit higher. The big thing on Wall Street today, the June jobs report. The employment rate expected to hold steady at 5.6 percent. We're expected to have added about 250,000 jobs during the month. You know a lot of people have been focusing on the employment aspects of our economy. So that's going to be the big thing coming at 8:30 Eastern today.
COSTELLO: Well, we'll keep our eyes open.
Carrie Lee live from the NASDAQ market site. Thank you.
Still to come on DAYBREAK, Bill Cosby on parents, children and race. Hear what he said this time with Jesse Jackson by his side.
And then dieters, don't worry -- you can have a treat, but not cheat at those backyard barbecues this weekend.
And our DAYBREAK Photo of the Day. What is it? We'll tell you, when we come back.
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COSTELLO: Where did that come from? That is not your traditional Fourth of July music.
HOLLY FIRFER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In some parts of the world.
MYERS: Exactly.
COSTELLO: Anyway, your Fourth of July feast probably won't rival the Thanksgiving pig-out, but a traditional summer cookout menu can blow your calorie count.
CNN health correspondent Holly Firfer is here to share some ways to celebrate this weekend and still feel good about putting on that bathing suit, kind of.
FIRFER: Should we point out that she's eating potato chips right now?
MYERS: Yes, real ones, too.
FIRFER: We don't want to put a damper on the holidays, but we thought, you know, let's see what we're eating. Let's see how much you're taking in in calories, fat and even carbs, if you're watching your diet. And we put together some traditional foods and I want to run you through the numbers.
You know, you go to the barbecue, you have a hot dog, say; baked beans; potato salad; coleslaw. Here's what you get. Hot dog, 15 grams of fat, 180 calories, five carbs. Not bad. Add the bun, you're adding 21 grams of carbs, 110 calories, 1.5 grams of fat.
Potato salad, 12 grams of fat, 210 calories, 23 grams -- you can see it all up there -- coleslaw...
COSTELLO: Wow!
FIRFER: ... 15 grams of carbs. Baked beans...
MYERS: Ooh. Where does that come from, sugar in the coleslaw?
FIRFER: There's a lot of sugar in coleslaw. There's a lot of sugar in baked beans.
MYERS: Absolutely.
FIRFER: Baked beans only have half a gram of fat, but they have 26 grams of carbs.
COSTELLO: Wow! And you have to wonder what the heck's in the hot dog, because I've always wondered what hot dogs exactly are made of.
FIRFER: I don't know what's in there, Carol.
MYERS: Don't go there. We really don't want to know.
COSTELLO: OK, I won't. No problem.
FIRFER: Potato chips, Carol, what you have in your hand, for 12 potato chips -- and Emily the producer counted each one out -- 12 grams of fat, 150 calories, 14 grams of carbs.
COSTELLO: Really?
MYERS: Wow!
FIRFER: That plate right there, a grand total of 51 grams of fat, 950 calories, 104 grams of...
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MYERS: Well, now, that's going to feed a fourth-grader.
FIRFER: And you know you're going back to the table, don't you?
OK, now -- and, also, don't forget, you're going to add stuff to it. Let me get my little notes here. You have ketchup, mustard, mayonnaise, relish.
MYERS: Oh, right.
FIRFER: You're going to add a lot to -- let me see my notes here.
COSTELLO: To the horrible number of calories.
MYERS: You're depressing me.
FIRFER: Yes, exactly.
COSTELLO: I know.
FIRFER: You're going to add calories.
COSTELLO: You're taking the fun out of the Fourth of July, Holly.
FIRFER: Sorry about that.
But then you can go healthier. Now, not everybody wants to have chicken. You know, oh, there's a good alternative, chicken. Well, I've got to be honest with you, I'm a little tired of chicken myself. So we went to the store and found barbecue. Barbecue is actually low fat, no fat in this barbecue, 60 calories, 14 grams of carbs. So you don't have to go with the, you know, non-meat if you really want to be a meat eater.
You also have, you know, you add your bun, you're going to add some carbs. So if you want, have it without the carbs.
COSTELLO: Look at the expression on Chad's face. He's like horrified. He's like what is that green stuff on that plate?
FIRFER: It's good.
MYERS: What's this?
FIRFER: Well, you know what that is? OK, that's broccoli slaw. Now, there is no fat in that...
COSTELLO: Broccoli?
MYERS: I've had it.
FIRFER: Twenty-five carbs...
MYERS: It's awesome.
FIRFER: Yes?
MYERS: My wife gave this stuff to me the other day with my, I don't know, it was probably just like some oil on it or, you know, some vinegar on top.
FIRFER: Yes.
MYERS: It was really good.
FIRFER: Well, that's why I brought fat-free dressing here, because you can put fat-free dressing on it and you add no fat to it. You've got to remember you're going to add calories, you're going to add some carbs, but a great alternative. And baked chips, you know, versus 10 grams of fat, three and a half grams of fat for baked chips. And there's still a lot of carbs, 21 carbs, grams of carbs, if you're watching. But this whole meal here is only seven grams of fat, 375 calories, 66 grams of carbs. It's not a lot of food...
MYERS: So...
FIRFER: You will go back.
MYERS: So there's room for beer.
FIRFER: Yes. And speaking of that beer, beer has no fat. No fat.
MYERS: It's a liquid granola bar. FIRFER: There you go, 150 calories, 11 and a half grams of carbs, just so you know, for that beer.
MYERS: Yes, yes.
FIRFER: And we skipped ahead and the other, this, there's a lemonade type drink, the sweet drink, 38 grams of carbs.
MYERS: Lots of sugar.
FIRFER: Remember, there's a lot of sugar in this, too. And 22 grams in this. But remember...
COSTELLO: What is this?
FIRFER: ... there's also alcohol. It's actually a really good flavored new little vodka drink.
COSTELLO: Oh.
FIRFER: And can we get to my favorite dessert, only because it's late?
COSTELLO: Look at Holly.
MYERS: Oh, sure. Yes.
COSTELLO: Go Holly.
FIRFER: I've got it all covered.
Dessert, apple pie, right? Holidays, apple pie. Thirteen grams of fat in one slice, 260 calories, 33 grams of carbs. I'm sorry.
MYERS: So how many beers is that equal to?
FIRFER: Too many. Strawberry cheesecake, which, for some reason in our family, that was a tradition, 18 grams of fat, 280 calories, 25 grams of carbs.
COSTELLO: No.
FIRFER: I'm a sweet person, so people go well, it's nice berry season, it's fruit, you know, anti-oxidants. All right, I need something creamy. I need something that tastes good. That strawberry parfait has two grams of fat, 90 calories, 18 grams of carbs. And you feel like you're eating dessert.
COSTELLO: Did you make that with a Jell-O mold?
FIRFER: I did not. But I could say that I did.
COSTELLO: It's beautiful.
MYERS: That's pretty impressive, right?
FIRFER: It means you know me better.
And just to let everybody know, as always, cook your burgers to 160 degrees.
MYERS: Yes.
FIRFER: You know, we've got to talk about safety.
MYERS: Obviously.
FIRFER: Chicken to 170 degrees. Keep all of your fish, your meat, your poultry, all of those things, your cheese, even, chilled below 40 degrees if you're going to take it out. And whatever you don't eat within an hour that hasn't been refrigerated, get rid of. Do not take the chance. It's not worth being sick on the holiday.
COSTELLO: It's just not worth having a picnic. You just made me feel so guilty. But I'm going to eat these potato chips as we go to a break.
MYERS: Go right ahead. There you go.
COSTELLO: Coming up, Bill Cosby. Did you hear what he said this time? Boy, he got all riled up. Listen.
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BILL COSBY, COMEDIAN: We're going to call each other names of ugliness. Comedians coming on TV, I'm so ugly, you're ugly, oh, yes, yes, that's all minstrel show stuff.
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COSTELLO: Hear what else Bill Cosby had to say to a big crowd last night.
And a freak accident involving a teenagers and a cell phone. And, no, she was not driving. This thing exploded.
Then, if you're planning on a backyard show for the 4th, stick around to see what's legal and what's safe.
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