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New Video of 9/11 hijackers at Dulles Airport before attacks, Six more foreign workers taken hostage in Iraq, Hunt continues for missing jogger in Utah, Convicted child killer Andrea Yates refuses to eat, Beauty secrets to make you look like a star
Aired July 21, 2004 - 19:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening. I'm Anderson Cooper.
Amazing and chilling new video just in, video of 9/11 hijackers going through security at Dulles Airport just before they took over the plane that hit the Pentagon.
360 starts now.
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Accused of murder. Iraq's new leader disputes the charge, but likes the reputation of being a tough guy.
The search continues for a missing jogger in Utah. Hundreds help in the effort.
Andrea Yates, convicted of killing her own kids, now refuses to eat. We'll speak with her attorney.
Our special series, the Star Treatment. Tonight, beauty secrets that may help you look like a star.
And Prince is not only selling out arenas, he's topping the charts in CD sales. Could Prince become the king of smart marketing?
ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.
COOPER: Good evening. Some breaking news to report to you. An astonishing videotape surfaced today. In fact, barely half an hour ago. At first glance it may seem mundane. Images from an airport security camera. But when you realize what you are seeing it is chilling.
Security footage from Dulles Airport in Washington. The date, September 11, the morning of the day the world changed. The tape shows this man among three others, four of the five hijackers in all of American Airlines, flight 77, the one that was flown into the Pentagon.
We are actually watching 9/11 terrorists strolling through metal detectors having a guard pass a wand up and down their bodies and in a very short time, these men and all aboard the plane they seized and many more at the Pentagon and elsewhere would be dead. This exactly is where all the current grief of America and much of the rest of the world began. This moment, this morning.
CNN's justice correspondent Kelli Arena is in Washington. She has just seen this tape as well with me. Kelli, it is chilling, it is horrific, it is mundane and it is remarkable. What comes to your mind as you look at this tape?
KELLI ARENA, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, Anderson, you use the word "mundane" and that's what's so chilling about it is that they are walking, going through this as if they're just regular passengers, not at all looking like they intended to pull off what they did. This is not the -- this video, we knew of the existence of this video, Anderson. It was mentioned in the September 11 commission staff report. I believe it was the first or second report. So we knew it was out there.
But to see this, to see this, Anderson, as it's happening is astonishing. You'll notice that two of them at least were stopped for some security purpose, wanded, but we have to remember that these men were not carrying anything on to this airplane that they were not allowed to legally.
We were told they had small knifes with them which were probably either -- maybe that's what got them stopped or those were in their carry-on baggage, but nothing out of the ordinary. No one looks nervous, no one is rushing. Really pretty amazing.
COOPER: Well, also when you consider four of the five hijackers are seen in this videotape. Nawaf Alhazmi, his brother Salem. Also Khalid Almihdhar and Majed Moqed. Those are four of the ones who are apparently seen in the tape.
What is interesting is when you look at the breakdown of who was stopped and who was not, we know now according to this staff report that you just mentioned, Khalid Almihdhar and Majed Moqed both set off alarms as they went through the first magnetometer. They were both checked through a second and apparently that's where Khalid Almihdhar continued to set off an alarm -- actually, no, I'm sorry, it was Moqed who continued to set off that second magnetometer and was actually hand-searched by the wand which we saw in the videotape and yet as you said allowed through.
ARENA: That's right. Those names may sound -- even though I know that they all sounded jumbled, but Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, two very familiar names on because those were the two hijackers that were known about. Those are the two hijackers that the CIA knew about from a meeting in Malaysia, a very important al Qaeda meeting.
Those were the two that were never put on a watch list. Those were the two that the FBI were frantically searching for in the weeks just before 9/11, even though their names were in a San Diego phone book, those were the two that are expected to be mentioned as one of the missed opportunities by the September 11 commission as -- if something was followed up more aggressively on that front, maybe something would have changed.
WOODRUFF: And I'm reading from the staff statement Number Three from the 9/11 commission staff report. They say that their best working hypothesis that a number of the hijackers as you said were carrying permissible utility knives or pocketknives, one example of such utility knife is a Letterman -- excuse me, a Leatherman...
ARENA: Leatherman. Right.
COOPER: And apparently at least two of these kind of knives were purchased by the hijackers and were not found in the belongings of the hijackers left behind. The supposition being that these men who you are seeing, maybe that is why they were pulled over. Maybe those Leatherman knives were discovered and yet allowed to board the airplane.
ARENA: Alas, you're right because there wasn't a problem. My father-in-law traveled with his pocketknife for years on airplanes and until obviously very recently.
This is the closest that we've gotten to see more than headshots of the hijackers. I don't know if you remember when the FBI released pictures of ringleader Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari, they were in Portland Maine. They were going through an airport checkpoint just like this but it wasn't moving video. Those were just still.
They were also seen at a Wal-Mart. This is so astonishing because it is the first moving video that we've seen of these men and I think that, you know, speaking for families of the victims, speaking for Americans who watched on that tragic day, it's -- it's ever- fascinating. It is -- it is never boring. You are always just so intrigued to learn and see and get your hands around something that many people to this day think was a dream. How could this have happened? This is living color proof that there they are. Right there and this is amazing.
COOPER: Also, outrageous to some degree when you consider as you have said that Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, their names were known. Their names were known by various security agencies of the United States and yet because of the system that was in place at that time or perhaps I'd better say, the lack of a system which was in place. Names on a list, on a terror list or on a CIA list were never compared against domestic flight manifests.
ARENA: Right. Never watchlist, never put on an FAA list, let right on the airplane even though the FBI was out, you know all over looking. Had agents out on the street looking for these men and they get on an airplane without a problem.
COOPER: You also wonder how many of the other people we are seeing in this grainy video, how many of them were passengers aboard flight 77? How many of them lost their lives?
ARENA: That's right.
And I'll bet right now the families that are watching this and it's always good to remember them, are probably searching for images of their relatives and friends.
This is why this is so emotional, Anderson, for everyone involved, most importantly, families and friends of those victims.
COOPER: So what is going through the minds of these men as they calmly pick up their luggage? What did they have in that luggage as they calmly -- you know, as the metal detectors went off. They put up their hands...
ARENA: Well, you know, Anderson, the interesting thing is that to this day, many agents and intelligence sources that I speak to say they really don't know if all of the hijackers knew exactly what was going to happen. They say they are sure that the pilots knew, obviously, but that the musclemen, many of which we see here, when we see Hani Hanjour actually was the pilot of the flight that crashed into the Pentagon, but did the other four know? Were they just thinking they were doing a traditional hijacking? Were they going to make demands and go forward? Did they really know that this was a suicide mission, that they were going to crash those airplanes into buildings? No one knows.
COOPER: It is just -- as we said, this is a tape, if you're just joining us, that has just come in, literally about 35 minutes or so ago. We are just learning about it. The contents of the tape had largely been known as we've been mentioning from the 9/11 commission, that they were mentioned in a staff statement report Number Three, but to actually see it, to actually witness this.
This is 7:18 a.m. in the morning on September 11, the day the world changed. 7:18 a.m. Eastern daylight time. That is when Mojed Moqed, Khalid Almihdhar, entered one of the security screen checkpoints at Dulles International Airport. It was at 7:35 a.m., a few moments later that Hani Hanjour placed two of his carry-on bags on the X-ray belt in the main terminal checkpoint and proceeded, I might point out in this case, without alarm right through the magnetometer. They were very careful not to all go through at once, to separate it, even though two of them were brothers, Nawaf Alhazmi and his brother Salem.
ARENA: And you know, Anderson, of course, the intelligence shows that there were many dry runs, that al Qaeda is known to practice and to go through things very systematically before they pull off an attack and you can be sure that this was a routine that had been practiced and perhaps it's why everyone looks so calm and cool and collected. There's not a moment's hesitation. There's nothing. I mean, you wonder, gee, does the security guard see anything? Were they lax? And you can see that they went through, they were screened properly. Some wanded. Nobody seems to be acting in an unusual way that would, you know, register with the security guard.
COOPER: And, you know, hindsight is 20/20. You look back and think, what if? What if something had happened, what if something was different, what if somebody had compared the list, had known these two peoples' names, if some red flag had popped up somewhere...
ARENA: We'll look at a lot of that tomorrow, Anderson, with the 9/11 commission report coming out, that's for sure.
COOPER: No doubt about it. Let's talk about that. What are we anticipating tomorrow about this 9/11 report?
ARENA: Well, sources say that commissioners will recommend, and the recommendations are the big part of this report, the creation of a national counterterrorism center and that we are told will replace -- there we go. The current terrorism threat integration center.
They will recommend the appointment of a cabinet-level intelligence, national intelligence director. That person is expected to have budget authority which the CIA director does not have. Those are some of the major ones and we're told just about everyone takes a hit here, Anderson, The CIA, FBI, Congress, both the Clinton and Bush administrations. Congress, for lack of oversight, the Bush and Clinton administrations for not taking the al Qaeda threat seriously enough.
We'll hear that there was no connection, 9/11 connection between Iraq and 9/11, but we will hear that as we've reported before that at least eight of the hijackers traveled through Iran before they came to the United States to attack. So lots of looking back and going through as I mentioned before, some missed opportunities that will be highlighted and of course, those recommendations which those commissioners are going to lobby pretty fiercely to get implemented.
COOPER: All right. Kelli Arena, reporting live from Washington. Thanks very much, Kelli.
We're going to continue reporting on this videotape a little bit later on in the program, probably around 7:30 Eastern time. We'll be showing the tape again, having some other people discuss it. Again, this is new videotape that has just come to us within the last 40 minutes or so. Disturbing, chilling, and sickening.
Let's move on right now, on to Saudi Arabia, where security forces were unusually active today, two days after the expiration of a government offer of amnesty to al Qaeda members to turn themselves in. Saudi police made a number of raids and found some things that they must have been glad to find, including a missile. They found one thing that surely made their blood run cold. They found it in a refrigerator.
CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson joins us live from Riyadh. Nic, what's the latest?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, indeed, a very gruesome discovery, the head of U.S. Avionics engineer Paul Johnson discovered in a refrigerator in a house that Saudi officials are calling a main base of operations for al Qaeda.
It's not exactly clear what led the police to this particular house at the time, but Paul Johnson's body, since his kidnapping and murder just over a month ago, has been missing. There have been intensive efforts here between Saudi security forces, Saudi police, and FBI agents trying to find Paul Johnson's body. Indeed, the FBI stepped down their activities just over a week ago, not believing they could get any further clues to the whereabouts of Paul Johnson's body. But this, the first step forward, perhaps, for Saudi security forces to know where exactly Paul Johnson was taken and murdered.
From Saudi security sources, we understand there is a possibility that al Qaeda members who turned themselves in through the government's offer of leniency or have been captured, they have been taken in vehicles around this area to identify this particular house.
This is a house the Saudi officials have been looking for for some time. Inside that house, a large cache of weapons as well, a surface-to-air missile that had been in an al Qaeda video, many rounds of ammunition, many weapons were discovered there, along with $96,000 or the equivalent in Saudi money, and CDs and video cameras.
This, Saudi officials are saying, they believe, a main al Qaeda operation space, a place where al Qaeda was making videos disseminating this information, Anderson.
COOPER: Nic, this may be a ridiculously stupid question, but why were they keeping this man's head in a refrigerator?
ROBERTSON: It's not clear at all, and certainly Saudi security officials haven't given any indication why. What we know about this particular group is that immediately after they announced the -- that they had killed Paul Johnson, a few days after they kidnapped him, they released still photographs onto an al Qaeda-related Web site.
Just a few days ago, they released some videotape, or at least the videotaping of Paul Johnson's execution, or very soon after his execution, his beheading, a very gruesome videotape, at least, on a Web site.
Perhaps they had some intent to use Paul Johnson's head in some way for future promotional purposes, if you will, Anderson.
COOPER: Ugh. All right. Nic Robertson, thanks very much.
360 next, the crisis in Sudan. The first pictures of the heartache and devastation. An unbelievable story, that right after the break.
Also tonight, Andrea Yates, is she trying to starve herself to death? The mother who drowned her five children is said to fall into an emotional abyss. We'll talk to Andrea Yates's attorney.
And Iraq's new tough guy, interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, accused of killing in cold blood just days before he took power. Is it a myth, or murder? We'll take a closer look at the man who broke the story.
First, your picks, the most popular stories right now on CNN.com.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: The world may not be watching, but a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions continues today in Sudan. Tens of thousands of people have been killed, countless others tortured.
Neil Connery was one in the first on the ground in Sudan to get pictures. This is what he found.
NEIL CONNERY, ITV NEWS (voice-over): (UNINTELLIGIBLE), clinging to life. The severely malnourished babies are no more than skin and bone. The aid agencies are battling to do what they can in the fight against hunger and disease. Dr. Jerry Ehrlich is inundated with cases and fears things could get even worse.
DR. JERRY EHRLICH, MEDICINS SANS FRONTIERES: If we get something like a cholera epidemic, or if we get a meningitis epidemic, it would be a nightmare, absolute nightmare.
CONNERY (on camera): There are more than 63,000 people in this camp alone, and over 130 such camps spread across Darfur. That's 1 million displaced people in this part of Sudan, who the humanitarian agencies are having to cope with.
(voice-over): The aid agencies say the situation inside the camps is critical.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are on the brink right now of a catastrophe, and rapid action is needed here in Darfur to assist the tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people who are in need.
CONNERY: We were taken into the wards of the Nyallah (ph) Hospital. We found them full of victims from the Arab militia attacks.
Fibit (ph) was doused in petrol and set alight. Ten-year-old Mohammed was shot in the hip. In Darfur, the innocent suffer in silence.
Darfur is a land devoid of hope. Its people urgently need their cries for help to be heard.
Neil Connery, ITV News, Darfur.
COOPER: It's just hard to imagine.
The hostage crisis gets worse in Iraq. That story tops our look at what's happening around the world in the uplink. An obscure Islamist group says they'll behead six new hostages if their truck company doesn't pull out of Iraq. Arabic language network Al Arabiya showed this footage today of the masked gunmen and six hostages, two from Kenya, three from India, and one from Egypt. Athens, Greece, now, under intense pressure from the U.S., Greece will allow 400 U.S. special forces soldiers to be used largely as bodyguards for U.S. athletes and dignitaries. The arrangement is a huge change from Olympic (UNINTELLIGIBLE) tradition, and even Greek law, which prohibits foreign personnel from carrying weapons within the country. Greece isn't expected to formally announce the change for fear of roiling anti-American sentiment.
Kabul, Afghanistan, three Americans, seen here in handcuffs, went on trial today, accused of torturing eight Afghans in a makeshift prison. The Americans deny any wrongdoing, saying they had support from the Pentagon. The U.S. military says that is not true.
That's a quick look at the uplink tonight.
360 next, videotape that is hard to believe, 9/11 hijackers about to board the jetliner they would turn into a guided missile.
Also tonight, Iraq's new strongman flexes his muscle. A prime minister accused of shooting prisoners in cold blood? Is it fact, or fiction? We'll talk to the man who broke the story.
And on a much lighter note, the star treatment. How do celebrities keep those faces from falling? (UNINTELLIGIBLE) about besides plastic surgery, we'll tell you, take you inside Hollywood's glamour machine, part of our special series.
COOPER: You may not know this, but Lenin wasn't the early Russian leader's real name. The word means "man of iron." Later on came Stalin, not his real name either. Stalin means "man of steel."
Nothing surprising about any of this if you're trying to take control of a country flirting with anarchy, you'd better convince those you mean to master that you have exactly that kind of strength.
Which brings us to the subject of Iraq's Iyad Allawi.
COOPER (voice-over): The prime minister may have started his job with a handshake, but he knows the only way to keep it will be with a tight fist. After 16 months of a deadly insurgency, and with almost daily car bombs and mortar attacks taking a heavy toll on civilians, what Iraqis now demand is law and order and a strongman to deliver it.
VIVIENNE WALT, "TIME" MAGAZINE: They want to see a lot of checkpoints, a lot of house raids, a lot of action, if you like, mass arrests and anything that seems to suggest that they're getting a handle on the insurgency.
COOPER: And Allawi seems to have gotten the message. On July 12, less than two weeks after he took over, the police rounded up 527 alleged criminals in just one raid in Baghdad. Cops are now flooding the street, and a new secret police has been created. The old secret police were disbanded after Saddam fell.
Allawi also likes to talk tough, often threatening to impose marshal law and reinstate the death penalty.
IYAD ALLAWI, IRAQI INTERIM PRIME MINISTER: It is a naked aggression against the Iraqi people. We will bring the criminals to justice.
COOPER: And in rumor-filled Baghdad, tales of Allawi's get-tough approach have started swirling around, one of which reported that Allawi himself shot seven suspected insurgents point-blank in a police precinct. Allawi denied it.
True or not, many in Baghdad think the story actually serves Allawi.
WALT: Perhaps this might have been a little bit of a choreographed story in order to give Allawi instant street credentials, if you like, credentials that cast him immediately as the tough guy who's going to go in and not take any nonsense from anybody.
COOPER: And Allawi's tough-guy attitude, many Iraqis say, is exactly what the country needs, for now.
COOPER: So Iyad Allawi is trying now to call the shots in Iraq, as we've said. But before he was given power, did he do more than just call the shots? Did he actually fire shots, personally executing, as one account now says, as many as six suspected insurgents at a Baghdad police station in June?
This is what Mr. Allawi told "Newsweek," quote, "This is a big lie. This is not true, I deny it categorically, number one. Number two, we will spare no effort to secure our people."
For the other side, we talked with "Sydney Morning Herald" reporter Paul McGeough, who broke the story.
Paul, walk us through what happened at this police station, according to your sources, with Prime Minister Allawi.
PAUL MCGEOUGH, "SYDNEY MORNING HERALD": On or about the June 19, June 20, at about 10:00 in the morning, the prime minister made a surprise visit to the Al Amaria (ph) police complex in the southwest of Baghdad. All the policemen on duty were called together. He gave them a pep talk. It was based on courage, strength, morale, getting out there and getting the terrorists.
He did a tour of the complex, which ended it in a courtyard, a smallish courtyard, where seven prisoners were lined up against a wall. They were blindfolded, they were handcuffed. The prime minister was throwing questions at the insurgents, wanted to know, were they with Saddam, or were they fighting for Saddam? Why were they killing Iraqis? He told those around him that each of them had killed as many as 50 each. The interior minister expressed a view that they should all be killed on the spot. That's what he would like to see. Prime Minister Allawi countered that by saying that death was too good for them. However, at that point, he then pulled a gun, which some people who were present identified as a Browning pistol, and proceeded to shoot the prisoners.
COOPER: Now, Paul, as you said, you're basing this account, really, on two alleged eyewitnesses. How confident are you in their stories, that they're telling the truth?
MCGEOUGH: I used only personal channels. There was no involvement by political, military, religious groups that might be bent on trying to damage Dr. Allawi. There was an element of chance in my meeting with one of the witnesses that made it impossible for somebody else to have set up that meeting. So I'm confident it wasn't a setup.
The witnesses themselves, I listened to their stories. I watched their body language. I looked into their eyes as they spoke to me. More importantly, as you'd be aware, working in an environment like Iraq, where you're work -- hearing stories like this through an interpreter, I have great trust in a set of Iraqi eyes and ears with me for these interviews.
COOPER: There is a line of thought, some have sort of said that perhaps prime minister or someone in his office even planted this story, the idea being that it would be received as a sign of him having a strong hand and would be received positively within Iraq. Any thought on that idea?
MCGEOUGH: That's conceivable. But it doesn't -- if the suggestion is that the story was planted with these two people to tell to me, they didn't come to me. I went to them. As I say, there was an element of chance in meeting one that couldn't have been set up.
So you're right when you talk about rumors in Baghdad. There are variations of these witness accounts floating around Baghdad. But this is something different. This is two eyewitness accounts of what people say they saw, as opposed to what so-and-so told me when they were putting out the rubbish last night, or what Ahab said to me in the teahouse this morning.
COOPER: How do you think it's playing out right now in Iraq?
MCGEOUGH: It's not damaging him. As you said earlier, many Iraqis say they want a strong leader. You probably heard them tell you that they often expressed it as that we want a Saddam with justice. It's their way of acknowledging that they need strong security to be able to live their lives.
If you think about it, this is a society that's never had democracy, has never had the institutions of law and order as you and I know them. Law and order has always been imposed with a level of brutality. COOPER: Paul McGeough, it's a fascinating story, thanks for being with us.
MCGEOUGH: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: 360 next, 9/11 hijackers on tape. See them for the first time breezing through security as they began their mission of terror. Disturbing video you need to see.
COOPER: We continue with our top story tonight, breaking news, the chilling video of the September 11 hijackers. The video, hard to believe. Released just a few moments ago, about 45 to 50 minutes ago.
This surveillance camera capturing four of the five September 11 hijackers who came through Dulles airport, going through airport security that horrific morning.
After passing through the metal detectors, the hijackers would join another hijack or American Airlines Flight 77 and crash it into the Pentagon.
Joining us now from Watertown, Massachusetts is Jim Walsh, an international security expert at Harvard University. Jim good to see you tonight.
JIM WALSH, HARVARD UNIVERSITY: Always good to see you, Anderson.
COOPER: What jumps out at you watching this tape?
WALSH: Well first of all, I think it's very emotionally powerful videotape. It stirs up a bunch of feelings from 9/11 and it really grabbed me. But more than that, it really sort of symbolizes the problems we had on 9/11 and some of the missed opportunities that the 9/11 commission will be talking about tomorrow.
COOPER: Jim, let's tell people a bit of what we're looking at, because it's a little hard to tell, it's grainy, but it is extraordinary. There you see a metal detector wand being passed over one of the 9/11 hijackers.
Let me just give you a brief rundown of what happened. At 7:18, we know two of the hijackers came through security. I believe we're looking at these 2 right here that would be Majed Moqed and Khalid al- Midhar. One of them did set off -- actually they both set off initial security alarms, they went through a second magnetometer, one of them failed a second magnetometer, Khalid al-Midhar. And that's the man who had the wand passed over him.
Then about -- at 7:35 another guy passes through. And then a few minutes later, two more pass through, brothers Nawaf Alhamzi and his brother Salam and as you see, they both set off metal detectors. Nawaf Alhamzi actually set off two and he was just searched, you saw that there.
Two of these guys, their names were known to the CIA, weren't they, Jim?
WALSH: They were, but they did not end up in the FAA, or in the airline system. Remember, at that time the security for airlines was run by private companies by the airlines themselves, not by the federal government. There was no communication there.
But Anderson, the staff report from the 9/11 commission points out that all these guys showed up on what was called the CAPS program, a system for pre-screening passengers. And so they showed up as suspicious passengers, but two of them didn't have luggage. And the CAPS system at the time was to stop people from putting explosives onboard. So because they didn't have luggage, they let them go through. and then they set off the metal detector and then they set off a second metal detector and they still went through. And part of the reason why they were able to go through was because the rules back then allowed you to carry a four-inch knife on to a airline.
So the 9/11 commission speculated they don't have all of the evidence or didn't right at that point, that these hijackers may have had pocketknives or the so-called leatherman knife, it's a four-inch blade, a locked blade that was used later to take over the plane.
COOPER: You know, Jim, you see this guy's face and you think what is going through this guy's mind? He is about to commit mass murder, did he know -- because we know there was a sort of the total 19 hijackers, we know some of them were sort of the -- I think it was Thomas Friedman at the "Times," called the stand around guys, the muscle. Some of them were actually more of the brains who were actually flying the planes. It's not clear at this point, that all of them knew what the final result would be.
WALSH: Well, that's probably right. They looked pretty cool and calm in that video, but it's also important to remember, Anderson, that this was something they had trained for. They'd gone through test runs. They had been stopped, because of this CAPS program and evaluated and made through it because, two of them didn't have luggage and the luggage of the other three was simply being held until after they arrived.
So they knew the system. They trained for it, they had tested for the weaknesses in the system, they probably had a high degree of confidence that they would be successful, even though we came painfully close to stopping them.
COOPER: You know, you just watched this video and I know we've been playing it over and over for the last couple of minutes. But to me, at least, it is chilling and it is captivating. All of the sense of missed opportunities. You see these people. You know, of course, it's hindsight is 20/20, but you know what they're about to do. You know what is in their hearts, if not necessarily in their heads.
And to just see them, A, be stopped by security several times and yet slip through, because the rules in effect, then allowed small knives and leatherman knifes to get onboard the plane. It is so sad.
WALSH: It is incredibly sad. As I said, it's emotionally powerful. It stirs up for me all those feelings from that fateful day and it does raise the question what if? Could have things been different.
And, again, I think we'll see -- we've already seen some of the reporting on tomorrow's 9/11 commission report that they identify what they call ten opportunities that had actually been taken at different points all of the way years earlier to, perhaps, this very moment, before they get on the planes, there were opportunities that might have, might have, and I want to emphasize might have, derailed that operation. So it's very difficult to watch.
COOPER: And I'm sure for the families watching tonight, those who lost loved ones on that horrific day, maybe even looking for their loved ones on this grainy video. Who knows who else in this video was actually -- made it on to the flight, on that terrible flight. It is a sad night indeed. Jim, it was good to talk to you. Jim Walsh, from Harvard, thanks very much.
WALSH: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: Coming up next on 360. the woman who killed her kids, she may be trying to kill herself, they say now. Andrea Yates has been hospitalized. She is refusing to eat. We will talk to her lawyer ahead. 360 next.
COOPER: A mother who killed her five children descends into an emotional abyss. Find out why Andrea Yates has been hospitalized. Her lawyer joins us live. 360 next.
COOPER: Well Andrea Yates the Texas woman who drowned her five young children in a bathtub may be starving herself to death. She is refusing to eat. Her lawyer says Yates is psychotic and at times believing her children are still alive.
But first, CNN's Ed Lavandera has more on Yates' continuing descent into darkness.
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Andrea Yates has sunk to a state of mental despair that family and friends say they have never seen in her before.
LUCY PURYEAR, YATES DEFENSE TEAM: She is not at all in touch with reality. She's having delusions, beliefs about Satan and even at some point is unaware that the children are no longer alive.
LAVANDERA: Monday night Yates was transferred an east Texas prison to a hospital in Galveston, Yates his stopped taking her medications and refused to eat. Her attorney says she also stopped communicating and looked like she was in a dark place. The trouble started around June 20th, exactly three years after she drowned her five children in a bathtub.
GEORGE PARNHAM, ANDREA YATES ATTORNEY: She is under a horrible burden. She hurts, she desperately hurts.
LAVANDERA: George Parnham says Andrea Yates is caught in a vicious cycle, as she takes her medication she becomes less psychotic, more coherent and then begins to fully understand she killed her five children, that sadness spends her spiraling back into a depressed psychotic state. Russell Yates says he has seen this over the last two years. He makes regular visit to see his wife in prison, he still supports Andrea just as he did on the day she was sent to prison for life.
RUSSELL YATES, ANDREA'S HUSBAND: She's the kindest, sweetest, gentlest most caring person I've ever met and she's a victim here not only of the medical community, but the justice system.
LAVANDERA: Doctors tell Andrea Yates' attorney that she's starting to eat again and is back on antipsychotic medication, but those around here feel it's just a matter of time before the darkness returns.
Ed Lavandera, CNN, Dallas.
COOPER: Joining us in "Justice Served" from Houston tonight, George Parnham, the attorney for Andrea Yates. George, thanks for being with us tonight.
PARNHAM: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: Why is your client refusing to eat?
PARNHAM: Well, that's an excellent question, left better asked of the experts. I can only speculate that when she becomes so extremely depressed obviously that has an impact on her appetite and that in and of itself, not eating feeds the depression.
COOPER: Do you think she's consciously trying to kill herself?
PARNHAM: I think that Andrea in her delusional state believes, for instance that in order to free her children from purgatory where at times she believes that they exist. That she needs kill Satan within her and the only way to do that is to deny herself nourishment. Now that in and of itself speaks volumes about psychosis, about mental illness and is absolutely irrational, but I think that well is an issue.
COOPER: You haven't seen her since she's been in the hospital. I know you try to see her tomorrow. You tried to see her the first day she was there, but you couldn't, she was in a bad state. But you did see her close to the anniversary of her children's killing.
How was she then?
You said she was already then sort of starting to get worse?
PARNHAM: Yes, Anderson, I saw her on the 19th...
COOPER: Of June?
PARNHAM: Correct. Of June. Pardon me, that's Saturday prior to the 20th. She was in a very, very bad way. She did not comprehend or at least did not give signs of comprehension of matters that I was speaking to her about. We had brought with us a number of e-mails from the Yates Children Memorial Fund Committee encouraging her to get through this. And it really went over the top. Now, ironically a month before I went up to see her and she was at the very best that I had ever seen her. She was comprehending everything that I was talking about as far as the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) points are concerned. So it was an extreme disappointment to see her spiral.
COOPER: And I know, you say it's that catch 22, when she gets better she realizes what she's done and then she descends obviously knowing what she's done.
But let me ask you, George. There's a lot of people that are going to be listening tonight, and say look this may be part of your strategy, basically. You are appealing her conviction. You have a number of reasons you're going against it for what you said were inaccuracies in the courtroom, but mainly you're also trying to appeal -- basically saying that the law, that the insanity law in Texas is unconstitutional. To those who say this is just part of your -- you're trying to make her look more crazy to help your appeal you say what?
PARNHAM: Well, you know, it was not my decision to move her from the Sky View Mental Health Unit on Monday to basically intensive care down at Galveston, at the UTMB Medical School. That was the decision made by the administration at the unit and the psychiatrist who were very concerned about her enormous weight loss, her severe dehydration and her depression with psychotic delusions.
I didn't find out about that move until the decision had already been made. I am trying to get in to see her. She's on an IV at this time. For those that would suggest that this is simply a ploy, I think feeds into the unreality, if you will, an acceptability of the unreality of mental illness. That's what we've got to do with this case is educate the public and the professions, that is medical legal professions of the reality of the mental illness so we can address it in the future.
COOPER: And I know that's something you're helping to do with your appeal. George Parnham, we're going to have to leave it there tonight. Thank you very much for being with us.
PARNHAM: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: All right good night.
PARNHAM: Good night.
COOPER: We'll be right back.
COOPER: Well, Goldie Hawn's character in the "First Wives Club" seeked (ph) a youthful glowing face she paid a lot of money for. What plays out on Hollywood's big screen isn't much different than real life Hollywood. Collagen injections, Botox, facials, all the rage. Even us mere mortals aren't afraid to shell out the cash to remove years from our look. Researchers suggest that Americans spend a whopping $1.15 billion on antiaging cosmetics. Of course most celebs stay away from the neighborhood drugstore and opt for the super expensive beauty regimen. CNN medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen reveals some celebrity beauty secrets, part of our special series, "The Star Treatment."
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): You may not recognize this woman, but in the celebrity world she's a celebrity. Tracy Martin, facialist to the stars.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's got clients like Liv Tyler, Susan Sarandon, the designer Diane von Furstenberg, Iman and they all swear by her. For celebrities, the sky's the limit when it comes to their faces.
KERRY DIAMOND, "HARPER'S BAZAAR" BEAUTY EDITOR: It's all about super high-tech creams, it's about high-tech treatments that you can get at the dermatologist. Because when you're a celebrity your face is everything.
COHEN: And that's why celebs dish out $387 for a one-hour Tracy Martin facial.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's very mild, electrical current. It actually helps to reduce puffiness and to help redefine and contour the jaw line.
COHEN: For a celebrity, spending $300 for less than two ounces of skin cream is all in a day's work and how about this?
DR. FRANCESCA FUSCO, DERMATOLOGIST: When I turn this unit on what's going on happen is 2,000 yellow tiny lights will start to flicker and it will last for about 30 seconds.
COHEN: And those 30 seconds cost $150.
So are flashing lights and electrical currents not to mention $1,200 skin creams really better than the stuff the rest of us buy at the drugstore? We asked dermatologist Dr. Ron Shelton.
DR. RON SHELTON, AMER. ACAD. OF DERMATOLOGY: The problem is that we don't have enough scientific evidence for many of these treatments. COHEN: In fact, by and large, claims on nonprescription skin products and treatments are not regulated by the government. So manufacturers are free to say all sorts of things.
Dr. Sheldon's advice?
SHELTON: If you use the good old facial moisturizer in the average drug stores, I think you'll be fine.
COHEN: These products, while maybe not star quality are good enough for the rest of us. Elizabeth Cohen, CNN, Atlanta.
COOPER: Joining me from Las Vegas to talk more about celebrity beauty Paula Began who wrote the book, "Don't Go To The Cosmetics Counter Without Me." Paula, good to see you tonight.
I have to ask you what's in a $1,200 bottle of moisturizer?
PAULA BEGOUN, WWW.COSMETICSCOP.COM: It depends on the moisturizer. Sometimes some really good stuff. I don't know that I would so much agree with what the doctor just said. I don't know that just any old moisturizer. There's brilliant state of the art ingredients out there that are very exciting and can do wonderful things, but expensive doesn't tell you that you're getting the great ingredients.
There's plenty of expensive products that are containing nothing, just wax and water and there are inexpensive products that are brilliant and vice versa. In other words, expensive doesn't tell you you're getting anything.
Here's one of the more shocking things as I was looking at your video. These fancy products that these celebrities and any woman can buy often come in jar containers. So all of these exotic ingredients end up being unstable in packaging that isn't airtight. A jar package isn't airtight.
So after a few openings all those sexy, beautiful, ingredients we hope are going to do something for our skin at 200 300, $1,200 a pop in a jar is a waste of money. It's a burn. It would be ineffective after five days.
COOPER: $1,200 evaporating before our eyes.
BEGOUN: There you go.
COOPER: So what do you recommend -- what's the big mistake people make when they go to the beauty counter?
BEGOUN: They don't walk home with a well-formulated sunscreen. I can't of anything more bizarre given everything we know about sun damage, about how the sun affects free radical damage, everything about antioxidants is a lot about sun damage and then we go home without a sunscreen. $500 skincare routine and not a sunscreen in the group is just bizarre and it's bad skincare.
The other thing is is that we believe what the sales people tell us so it's going to lift and fight gravity and I know this physician did this one, this celebrity is using it and it starts getting crazy. You know, after reviewing 30,000 products, there's a lot of great product out there, but there's also a lot of ones that just waste money and wasting money ain't pretty.
COOPER: Celebrities seem to enjoy it, but for most of us it's not a good thing. Celebrities have access to Arnie Klein's home phone number. They can call up and get beauty tips whenever they want. What products do you recommend for people who don't have the money and don't have the dermatologist to the stars?
BEGOUN: I think there are just some brilliant options out there at the drugstore. I think for sunscreen you can look at Olay Regenerist. It is well under $20. For foundation with sunscreen, you can look at Revlon, well under $20. I think that for fancy antioxidant kind of products you can look at some Neutrogena healthy defense products.
There are so many options out there. A little bit higher end, but definitely less expensive than the fancy stuff is Clinique's Repairwear. By the way, Clinique is owned by Estee Lauder, their $1,200 product from Creme de la Mer that you were showing. Creme de la Mere is also owned by Lauder Corporation so you might as well walk over to the Clinique counter making the same claims as Creme de la Mere stuff. And a lot for less money.
COOPER: Paula Begoun, thanks very much.
BEGOUN: Thank you.
COOPER: Our special series "Star Treatment" continues tomorrow night with Hollywood healing for the body, soul and mind. Some cup, some burn candles, some wear rocks. Are these just celebrity trends? Yes, and we're going to tell you about them.
Also Friday, the pampered life. Behind the scenes look at the glam squad, the posse that helps the stars shine. We'll be right back.
COOPER: Tonight, taking the old lingual salute to the "Nth Degree." You say you have no idea what that is. Sure you do. Here you have first daughter Jenna Bush delivering a lingual salute from inside a limousine on the campaign stop with her dad. She made everybody laugh and made us think about the gesture itself which must be as old as the human race, but what exactly does it mean?
Not just one thing, obviously. Depends on who's doing it and how. Whether using the tip only or the whole tongue, whether holding the tongue straight or waggling it about, whether biting or flattening the tongue between the teeth, pointing it up, sideways, down. Just a flap of a muscular flesh, but look what it can be done with it. It can be playful, provocative, contentious, puzzling. The gesture has an odd power perhaps because otherwise the tongue is out of sight, hidden, tucked away and so always surprises when it darts out for a quick look-see. There you are. Tongue in cheek has only one meaning. A tongue out of mouth has many.
I'm Anderson Cooper. Thanks for watching. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW."
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