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Famous Edvard Munch Painting Stolen From Oslo Museum; Kerry Launch Attack Ad Against Bush, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

Aired August 22, 2004 - 16:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Is there anything especially gross left to eat in the world? Another reality show chips in with its gormet delites. But at issues is the controversial prize in the end.
And what's this you ask? Spiky hair on John Edwards? No hair on Dick Cheney? Leaner hair on John Kerry. And puffy eyes on the president. Professional groomers take a stand on politicians' looks.

And the artworld screams at its latest loss. Will Edvard Munch's paintings be recovered?

Hellow and welcome to CNN'S SUNDAY. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. First, let's check at what's happening now.

A French-American hostage is a free man. 36-year-old journalist Micah Garen was released in Nasiriyah today. He was kidnapped with his Iraqi translator more than a week ago. Right after his release, Garen told al-Jazeera television he was treated well during his captivity. And we'll have more in just a moment.

About 400 Florida students from Benhill Griffin Junior Elementary school will be going to a makeshift school in a Baptist Church tomorrow. Their school, which was heavily damaged by Hurricane Charley is still under repair. More on this story in about 30 minutes.

Fighting in Najaf eases slightly today, but the standoff continues. The wherabouts of wanted Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr are unknown. Iraq's Ministry of Health says 49 Iraqis were killed in the fighting in the last 24 hours.

And Pakistan now says the number of terror suspects arrested could be up to 10. The men are believed to have links to al Qaeda and were apparently planning to bomb several high-profile targets.

More than a week in captivity, French-American journalist Micah Garen has been released by his Iraqi captors. The 36-year-old was in Iraq working on a documentary about endangered archaeological sites. CNN's John Vause is following this developing story from Baghdad. And he joins us live with details -- John.

JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Fredricka. Micah Garen was held for about 9 days by a group calling themselves the Martyrs Brigade. They had threatened to kill him unless the U.S. and the Iraqi government ended their military offensive in Najaf. Now, a number of news organizations and the group Reporters Without Borders appealed directly to Muqtada al Sadr and his senior aides to intervene. They did. They began negotiations with this group about four days ago. They comdemned the kidnappings, they described it as unIslamic.

This is the second time al-Sadr's have become involved in negotiations to try and free a journalist. About two weeks ago, James Brandon, a British journalist, was taken from his hotel room in Basra. And once again, al-Sadr's men intervened. He was freed within a few hours.

Now Garen is a freelance reporter. He was working on a documentary about the theft of Iraq's antiquities when he was taken from a marketplace in Nasiriyah along with his Iraqi translator. Both have been release, both say they are now in good health -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: John Vause, thanks for the update from Baghdad.

Well, now turning to a major point of terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay. The legal battles for a handful of the some 600 suspected Taliban and al Qaeda detainees held at the U.S. facility in Cuba are heating up. Four terrorism suspects charged with conspiracy against the U.S. will go before a military commission starting Tuesday.

Our Susan Candiotti is at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay working on this case -- Susan.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI: Hello, Fredricka. Yes, as you said, proceedings don't begin until Tuesday, however, even military career veterans here call the tension palpable. They say there hasn't been this much attention to the base and on the base in years, not since the war on terror began.

Today, a dress rehearsal of sorts for the participants, except for the defendants, in historic proceedings that are about to begin. Now, we cannot show you the walk through, only the empty courtroom here at the base where no TV cameras will be allowed once the military commission starts.

More than 2 1/2 years after the first prisoners began to arrive from Afghanistan, the first 4 detainees charged so far with alleged war crimes go on trial. There are no witnesses that will be appearing. We only understand a guilty or not guilty plea may be entered and other motions will be argued.

Two of the defendant the from Yemen, one from The Sudan, 1 Australian. The process itself is tightly restricted, citing national security reasons. This military commission ordered by the president himself is held outside the United States. Five people will sit in judgment, all approved by the deputy secretary of defense.

There is no judge per se, a presiding officer. There is no independent civilian review of this process. However, authorities insist, the proceeding will be fair. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SUSAN MCGARVEY, U.S. NAVY: They can cross-examine each government witness as well as put on their own witnesses. They have the ability to offer evidence, in addition to witnesses, and they can -- you'll see, they can challenge the members. And with respect to that, they are presumed innocent and the standard is they must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

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CANDIOTTI: However, not everyone agrees that the proceedings will be fair to everyone. Critic, including human rights groups, question how fair the process will be.

We can tell you that when it is over, the maximum penalty is death for all the defendants but one, the Australian. And the judge will be overseeing the entire process, the presiding officer in this case.

If someone is found not guilty, it doesn't mean automatic freedom for the defendant. Because all of these people have been labeled enemy combatants, they can be held theoretically indefinitely until someone decides the war on terror is over -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Susan, when they use the terms, this is going to be a fair proceeding does, that mean that each of the 4 in particular will have legal representation?

CANDIOTTI: They do. All have been afforded free attorneys provided by the U.S. military. So technically not someone they automatically chose for themselves. They could hire someone, only one has been able to do so, the Australian, David Hicks.

WHITFIELD: Susan Candiotti, thanks very much for that update from GITMO.

Well adding more details about the September 11 attacks now. The officially disbanded 9/11 commission has released two legnthy reports on its Web site. It offers more information about terrorist financing that was not released in the commission's final report back in July.

The reports also show how the 19 hijackers violated U.S. immigration laws to gain entry into the U.S. or abuse laws to remain here illegally.

Details are also revealed about how alleged plot mastermind, Khalid Shaik Mohammed and two of his alleged co-conspirators, applied and received visas. Only Mohammed was successful in using his to enter the U.S. He was captured last year and is being held at an undisclosed location.

Now to politics, where an ad by the swift boat veterans group is rocking the boat at the White House. A former P.O.W. and volunteer for the president's re-election campaign has quit after appearing in one of the group's ads attacking John Kerry. Our Jill Dougherty is in Crawford, Texas where the president is spending the weekend -- Jill.

JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, that is just one development. And actually the latest one is this ad coming from the Kerry campaign, and it's really sparking another firestorm over that issue of Vietnam and the wartime record of John Kerry. This ad by the Kerry campaign, directly acuses the Bush campaign of connection to those so-called swift boat attack ads.

Now, just a few minutes ago, the Bush campaign came out and they said that they're asking TV station managers not to run it. They say that it is false, that it wrongly accuses the Bush campaign of violating campaign finance laws.

And Fredricka, you'd have to say that today really marked a point where the discussion and the debate and the fighting over this became extraordinarily personal. We had, for instance, the daughter of Senator Kerry, Vanessa Kerry, on TV today defending her father. Here's what she said.

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VANESSA KERRY, DAUGHTER OF SEN. JOHN KERRY: Which wound do you want to see? Which scar do you need to see to prove that my father served? And it's very frustrating when you grow up seeing somebody who is continually been courageous, fighting for something he believes in, sort of attacked unfairly, and with lies.

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DOUGHERTY: And another case, Senator Bob Dole, a decorated World War II veteran also weighing in very personally about John Kerry.

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BOB DOLE, FRM. U.S. SENATOR: I always quarrelled about are the Purple Hearts. I mean the first one, whether he should have got a Purple Heart --he got 2 in one day, I think, and he was out in less than four months. Three Purple Hearts and you are out. And as far as I know, he's never spent 1 day in the hospital. I don't think he draws any disability pay. He doesn't have any disability. And boasting about 2 Purple Hearts, when you think about some of the people who really got shot up in Vietnam.

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DOUGHERTY: So, both parties continue to say that they ultimately want to talk about the issues. And they say, at least publicly, that they are uncomfortable about all of this. And obviously, it has really touched a nerve.

We may get a chance tomorrow, Monday, to ask President Bush about that. He will be having a brief meeting with reporters and perhaps he'll have something to say, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And Jill, now that the Bush camp has asked that television managers not run these ads. Is there any way of knowing whether the Kerry camp will, in any way, withdraw their complaints to the FEC, or if they'll continue to pursue that?

DOUGHERTY: Well, the Kerry camp made it very clear that they believe in that complaint. That's why they filed it with the FEC. And it would be probably hard at this point to imagine that they would withdraw it.

This is just continuing to escalate with each side saying that the other side is overstepping the boundaries. And as you can see, that's exactly what seems to be happening.

WHITFIELD: All right. Jill Dougherty, thanks so much from Crawford, Texas.

Well, John Kerry and his running mate John Edwards, are wooing voters and raising cash. Kerry greeted New Yorkers at church on Long Island today. He spent much of the weekend in the Hamptons attending a number of private events, including a $25,000 a plate dinner.

Edwards attended church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He's also spending time with a laid-off textile worker and other voters in North Carolina today. Later he's expected to campaign in Milwaukee.

With the election expected to be close, both campaigns are focusing on the undecide voter, people who are often disenfranchise, like ex-cons and the homeless are being registered in droves. Our Ali Velshi looks at the push to get out the vote in unexpected places.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For me, it gives me a chance to voice my opinion. And to get a chance, if possible to elect a person I believe can actually run this country.

ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice-over): there are an estimated 3.5 million homeless people in America. They don't run in power circles, but many of them want to vote.

HAROLD CHANEY, HOMELESS IN DC: I think this will be one of the most important elections that we're going to have in this particular -- this century.

VELSHI: With this election shaping up to be tight one, even registered homeless voters can make a difference.

DONALD WHITEHEAD, NATL COALITION FOR HOMELESS: We want to register about 25,000 people nationally. Twenty-five thousand people is definitely -- would impact races in a lot of states.

VELSHI: But advocates concede that faced with the daily struggle for survival, registering to vote isn't a homeless person's top priority.

VELSHI, (on-camera): People who are homeless can rental to vote. Let's say you sleep near an intersection, or in a park. The U.S. voter registration form actually has a place where you can draw in where you live. If you spend a lot of time at a soup kitchen or shelter, you can use that as your address, too. And the drive to register disenfranchised voters isn't stopping with the homeless.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are listening to "Rocking the Boat," here on WOOB ...

VELSHI, (voice-over): A couple Maryland radio hosts, one an ex- convict himself, want to turn people from the cellblock, into a voting block.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where is the concept that folks shouldn't have their felony ranks restored?

VELSHI: In most cases, convicted felons lose their right to vote. In 30 states, ex-cons can register to vote once they serve their sentence.

MARVIN "DOC" CHEATHAM, HOST, ROCK AND THE VOTE: Right now, believe it or not, there are over 200,000 in the state of Maryland that are eligible that are former felons, but they have no idea that they can register to vote. Our goal is basically to restore voting rights to felons who have paid their debt to society.

HASSAN ALLEN GIORDANO, VOTING RIGHTS REST COALITION: People who are citizens who have made mistakes, who have served their time to society, now deserve their right to vote as well.

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WHITFIELD: Well, the hottest reality show on Spanish television is a program where contestants compete to win not cash or prices, but the hope of a green card. I'll talk with the show's creator and a critic of the program coming up.

And the fastest man in the world? Find out who now holds those bragging rights?

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WHITFIELD: If you're an illegal immigrant in this country, would you willingly go on TV and profess your intent of getting a green card? That's, in part, the premise of this next story about a popular new reality show. Here's CNN's Peter Viles.

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PETER VILES (voice-over): Behind the scenes at the hottest new reality TV show in Los Angeles. Like "Fear Factor," it's a contest to eat disgusting food. Today, Nachos with duck embryos.

But there's a bizarre twist, in "Gana la Verde" the prize isn't money, it's the hope of a green card, which means legal residency. Winners receive free legal advice from an immigration lawyer, which means some of the contestants are illegal aliens. This is how the show begins.

Contest includes risky stunts, jumping from one speeding truck to another, jumping from one speeding boat to another, fending off attack dogs, climbing down the side of a cliff.

Of course there's food: Contestants have eaten worms, and burritos stuffed with pig intestine, and a plate full of scorpions.

(on camera): And "Gana la Verde," is only broadcast in four American cities right now, and yet it's already a huge ratings hit. In Los Angeles alone, it's now reaching a weekly audience of 1 million viewers.

(voice-over): And it is causing controversy. Critics say the show offers false hope to immigrants, while humiliating them and exposing them to legal action.

CARL SHUSTERNMAN, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: And as an ex-I.N.S. Prosecutor, I think it's totally bizarre. It's like, here I am, I'm illegal, come and get me. Unfortunately for them, the criteria for getting a green card is not determined by how many worms or scorpions that you eat, it's determined whether you have relatives who are U.S. citizens who can apply for you.

VILES: The creator of the program says no laws are being broken and no one is being misled about the ultimate prize.

LENARD LIBERMAN, LIBERMAN BROADCASTER: No one says, if you participate and do these things you have a green card. We are very up front and very honest and explain we are here to help you, we want to provide a service which is valuable to you. But I wonder if those critics would say anything if you were providing a breast implant or toaster oven? that would be a better prize?

VILES: The federal government is not amused. In a statement, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement tells CNN, quote, "exploiting individual hopes and creating inaccurate expectations can lead the public to believe that legal immigration benefits can easily be acquired by anyone which is not the case.

Now, not all of the contestants are illegal. Some told us they are trying to win green cards for relatives. Now in any event, the station says literally thousands of people, Lou, are lining up to appear on this program. Peter Viles, CNN, Burbank, California.

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WHITFIELD: Well, does this program exploit those contestants who appear? Or does it give them an opportunity they couldn't get otherwise? Joining me from Los Angeles is Leonard Lieberman. He's the creator of "Gana la Verde." And from Miami, we have John de Leon. He's a civil rights attorney. Good to see both of you, gentlemen.

All right. Well, this is a hugely popular show among Hispanic audience between the ages 18 and 49. It's the No. 2 show, Mr. Lieberman. We get it, it's kind of "Fear Factor" like of a show. Can you tell us something more about these contestants?

LEONARD LIEBERMAN, CREATOR "GANA LA VERDE": Well, the contestants live mostly in Los Angeles, although, they're welcome to come from other parts of the country as well. Each day -- we shoot a show five days a week and each day 6 participants participate. And there's one winner everyday. And that winner receives the a services of a board certified immigration specialist to help with their immigration case.

WHITFIELD: Well, in the piece you just saw, some of those contestants are illegal immigrants. What do you do in terms of pursuing some of these immigrants so that you don't end up with a real legal nightmare for the contestants and for your show?

LIEBERMAN: Obviously, that's a great concern to us. And let me correct a myth that exists for some reason. Everyone who participates on the show is 18 years or older, and they represent to us that they're a legal resident of the United States. We don't induce illegal immigrants to participate on the show. And in fact, you need to be legally in the United States to participate.

WHITFIELD: But the criticism is, no matter what, whether they are willing contestants, illegal or otherwise, that their cases are really being exploited. Showing the desperation, the measures that someone will take in order to get some sort of legal residency, a green card.

LIEBERMAN: In terms of exploitation, Hispanics can appear on "Fear Factor" or "Survivor" and "The Apprentice" and nobody cares. But the fact that we offer a prize of great value to our community, meaning legal services, everybody is aghast. It's amazing that one can offer a great prize as opposed to Armani suits for a year and everybody criticizes us. So, you can dress Jose for success for a year and that's OK, but help Jose become a real success and everybody has a problem. I personally have a problem with that.

WHITFIELD: With that legal representation, aren't you offering to these contestants that there is some hope, much greater chance for them that they're likely to get the green card, because they have the legal representation? Are you making a promise to them just by virtue of rewarding them?

LIEBERMAN: Absolutely not. My father himself was a Mexican immigrant. He came to the United States. Nobody helped him become a U.S. citizen, it took many years, and all he received is racism and obstacles. We would never misrepresent to our public. We are very careful about explaining to everybody who appears on the show that what we can offer is legal services.

And you know, the fact of the matter is, that the majority of our participants qualify for improved immigration in the United States and never knew it. A gentleman by the name of Carlos Ocampo (ph), he could have received a green card two years ago, but he could not afford the attorneys to represent him. Through our show he found out that he qualifies for a green card. That is an amazing service.

WHITFIELD: All right, Mr. De leon, so what's your problem with this. Mr. Lieberman is saying it's quite simple, it's being able to provide some legal service that soem of these people otherwise would not have been able to afford or get? What's the matter with that? JOHN DE LEON, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Well, this is, frankly, about as racist as you get on television. Here we are a television production company that's exploiting a group of people trying under very difficult circumstances to live in our country. It's exploiting them in legal limbo. You can you say that they're here legally, but the reality is, the fact that they need the green card, and the fact they need legal representation is because they do need to get their status adjusted. They are in legal limbo.

WHITFIELD: You say this is nothing more than taking advantage of their situation?

DE LEON: They're absolutely taking advantage of the situation for financial gain. Frankly, I think a couple of things, this is like dangling in front of somebody who is very ill doctor services and then having them go through the indignity of seeing the things that we on television earlier of people eating worms and eating scorpions. It is really, frankly, as offensive a show as there is on television.

The difference between this and "Fear Factor" is on "Fear Fact" on, the people on that show aren't in any sort of legal limbo. They're there because they want to participate in the show. This is attacking the vulnerabilities of people who are in very, many of them, very difficult situation. They need to get their status adjusted and they're preying on these people's necessity to get their citizenship.

WHITFIELD: But similar to the example Mr. Lieberman gave, sometimes it might take someone as much as a decade or even longer to get a Green Card. If this is an opportunity in which to shorten that amount of time by getting the amount of legal representation, then it seems like this would be a win-win situation, if it's strictly defined as Mr. Lieberman puts it?

DE LEON: Fredericka, frankly the attorneys who are involved in the sham should be investigated by the Bar associations which they belong. Practicing law in California or in Florida or in Texas or in Georgia, or wherever these contestants are coming from, the practice of law should not devolve into becoming a game show and that's exactly what's going on here.

WHITFIELD: So, Mr. Lieberman, how do you respond to that?

LIEBERMAN: I live in a real world and there is fact versus fiction. The fact is Hispanics in Los Angeles and the southwest and maybe East Coast liberals don't understand this. They live in fear, they have anxiety and they can't afford attorneys. They have 2 and 3 jobs, they live check to check, and they don't have access to free legal service or attorneys. And I find it offensive people think they do.

The fact that we have a reality TV show is well accepted in society today. You can be -- a Hispanic can appear in fear factor, a Hispanic can appear on Survivor, a Hispanic can on Apprentice, nobody knows their legal residence when they apply to be on those shows. Nobody does an investigation they, but they can appear on those shows.

DE LEON: But Leonard, the reality is you're taking advantage, precisely, of the legal condition, not other factors.

LIEBERMAN: I'm here to offer help.

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WHITFIELD: That will have to be the last word. We're out of time. John de Leon civil rights attorney out of Miami. And Leonard Lieberman, Thanks so much you for joining us from Los Angeles. The creator of the show "Gana la Verde." Sorry to cut you off, gentleman, we're out of time.

Well, one of the world's most famous paintings is now in the hands of thieves after a daring bold heist. The story straight ahead.

And making do in Florida, an elementary school won't be open for class tomorrow, because of Hurricane Charley so a local church is stepping in.

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WHITFIELD: In Norway, it's an art theft that make authorities and art lovers want to scream: 2 priceless paints snatched from an Oslo museum in broad daylight. CNN's Glenn Van Sutphin has details.

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GLENN VAN SUTPHIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The brazen daytime theft of 2 well-known paintings from Oslo's Munch Museum took guards and patrons by surprise.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two persons with hoods on their heads, they were disguised and with weapons, rushed into the museum, and they knew exactly where the paintings were. So they went directly up to them, took them down from the wall and run out as the alarm came on. And they threatened the guards with guns.

VAN SUTPHIN: The thieves made off with the paintings worth millions of dollars.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Men coming forward with a black guard over his mouth and nose and black pants but a gray sweatshirt. So, we weren't sure what to think of him. And he came -- he kind of paused at back, and then he came rushing forward. And he went towards "The Madonna painting. And he grabbed that off the wall. And he kind of -- he started banging it against the wall and against the ground, I guess because the gray strings weren't breaking off for him. And then he kind of looked confused as to what to do next.

He then saw "The Scream," and ran towards that and grabbed that off the wall. And then he started rushing the front and we started rushing out the back.

VAN SUTPHIN: The picture frames were later found in another part of the city, the pictures cut out. Investigators are still looking for further clues. ERLEND FERNANDEZ STEDDING, (via telephone): They have camera footage of the robbery now and they also managed to get some pictures taken by tourists that were at the scene during the robbery. According to police, police reports this evening, they have no suspects at the moment, and they are asking witnesses now to come forward to help the police with the investigation.

VAN SUTPHIN (ph): Edvard Munch who lived from 1863 to 1944 painted four versions of "The Scream." A founder of modern expressionism he painted both "The Scream" and "Madonna" as part of a series about love, fear and death. The best-known version of "The Scream" was stolen in 1994 and later recovered. It now hangs in the Oslo National Gallery.

Glenn Van Sutphin, CNN, Atlanta.

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WHITFIELD: Other news happening now. French American journalist Micah Garen was released today in Nasiriyah, Iraq after being held for more than a week. Garen was kidnapped along with his translator while walking in a busy market in the Iraqi city. Garen said he was treated well during his captivity.

The first preliminary hearings for terror suspects being held at the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center will start next week, four men will face a commission of military officers, the hearing for each man is expected to take a full day.

New Jersey Governor James McGreevey took to the editorial pages today to explain his reluctance to immediately resign his post. He writes his administration has important initiatives to accomplish and that a special election would side track those goals.

Keeping you informed, CNN the most trusted name in news.

And who is the fastest man on earth? It's -- wait a minute, there's a starting line. Stick around. We'll have a live report on who crossed the finish line first?

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WHITFIELD: Hurricane Charley caused billions of dollars worth of damage to homes and business in Florida. Some area schools were also hit hard in last weeks storm. One elementary school is getting a helping hand however from a local church. CNN's Sarah Dorsey is in southwest Florida. Sarah.

SARAH DORSEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi Fredricka. The sign is under construction, welcoming the Ben Hill Griffin elementary students here to the First Baptist Church, this is where they will be reporting to school tomorrow because their original school building was devastated by Hurricane Charley. The destruction is extensive.

The storm peeled back the roof there and water seeped in, damaging papers in the office, many of the schoolrooms. Some of the books. Construction crews are beginning to clean up there, but students of course won't be able to go back for quite awhile. Instead, they will report here to the First Baptist Church. Teachers and students will be going back to the basics in this building. The rooms are very small. They were originally built to house Sunday school classes. And they are a little bit split up.

Many of the students will come to the building here, and others will go across the street into a house that has been turned in to another school building. Teachers don't have black boards on many of the walls; some of them are using dry erase boards and things like that in order to teach the students. They say they're going to have to make do. It is going to be cramped, but they say possibly it will offer the students a new experience, something they'll probably remember for quite awhile -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Well Sarah, you have to wonder will there be a lot of students since so many of these families were displaced?

DORSEY: That's a question I did ask. They say they do hope many of the students will show up but they know several families that have students in this area have lost their homes and are living in shelters, they told me they will make special exceptions for any of those students that can't come to school tomorrow.

WHITFIELD: All right, Sarah Dorsey thanks so much.

Well here's a question for you, are men paying more attention to their clothing? Getting more manicures, talking about baby stuff to their male friends. Is it possible that more men out there are metro sexual? The author of "The Reluctant Metrosexual" joins us soon. Right after we take a look at grooming suggestions for U.S. political leaders. Should Dick Cheney shave his head? Should John Kerry cut his hair? The professionals weigh in.

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WHITFIELD: It's been another full day of competition at the Olympics in Athens, Greece. Today was the day for crowning the fastest man in the world among other victories. CNN's sports correspondent Larry Smith is joining us live from Athens, and you know Larry I love to hang on every word of yours, but understand and don't take offense as to why I'm going to cover my ears this time.

LARRY SMITH, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: OK gotcha. Because this was thrilling though Fredricka. One of the fastest races in Olympic history. The top four finishers in the men's 100-yard dash all within .04 second within each other. Here's the winner, if you don't want to know, don't look, mute your TV. Justin Gatlin takes gold. The 22 year old running in a time of 9.85 seconds that is a personal best. 2000 Sidney gold medallist Maurice Greene takes home bronze five runners finishing in ten seconds or less. A thrilling finish to end the evening at the Olympic Stadium here in Athens.

Now another scandal to talk about the gold medal winner of the first-ever women's competition ever to be held at ancient Olympia could lose that title, Russia's Irina Korzhanenko has failed a drug test. She will meet with IOC officials with her faith, not looking very good right now. She could follow in the footsteps of Leonidas Sampanis the Greek weight lifter today, striped of his bronze medal by the IOC. He had tested positive for twice the level of testosterone allowed, and so he has been banished from these games.

The marathon, women's marathon finishing at Pannako (ph) Stadium just about less than a mile away from our location here, and it was a win for Japan and Mizuki Noguchi getting the gold medal ahead of the Catherine Nedereba of Kenya. The U.S. takes bronze, Dina Kester becomes the -- she is the first American woman to take bronze since Joan Benoit back in 1984 in Los Angeles. Britain's Paula Radcliffe by the way favored but she quit the race late in the race, she is the world record holder but ran out of steam in the heat here in Athens.

And we finish off with the U.S. Softball women's team; they've done it again, now 8-0 in these games a 5-0 win over Australia. Lisa Fernandez a three hitter, they'll face the Aussies again tomorrow for the gold medal. Australia later beating Japan to earn another crack at the U.S. Once again they are 8-0 still have yet to allow a single run in these games. In fact Fredricka in eight games they allowed only 14 hits, trying to now win their third gold medal in as many Olympics.

Lets go back to you.

WHITFIELD: Wow, they're indeed all-time favorites. But I think now a new favorite is this woman marathoner, people are so happy to see that kind of history being made. Well tonight is also a big night for individual gymnast, isn't it? Hopefully no scandals there?

SMITH: There really is, but not a very good night though. Well no scandals right now, you have heard over the weekend we now heard that Paul Hamm's gold medal that he won the first-ever by an American male in the all-around, we heard on Saturday that they did admit there was a scoring mistake he should not have won that gold medal, as of right now he does keep it.

He did not fare well tonight as he finished sixth and last in the two events he was in the individual the pommel horse he was sixth. Last in the floor exercise, it was not a very good night for Paul Hamm or the Americans who did not medal in any of the men's gymnastic events.

WHITFIELD: Eek, what a contrast. All right, Larry Smith from Athens thanks so much.

Well many movers and shakers in Washington appear to be on the political grooming bandwagon, politicians are shelling out big bucks for expensive haircuts and facials and massages to sharpen up their public image. But what about the presidential ticket. CNN's Ed Henry has the story.

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ED HENRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Some of Washington's best kept secrets are not in the capitol or the White House, they're here at the grooming lounge, a D.C. spa for men, where male politicians like to sneak away to exfoliate and moisturize.

Men come for $50.00 haircuts and facials that run $90.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are male politicians who come in to exfoliate, to get manicures.

PIRDOZ SARSHAR, GROOMING LOUNGE COHEN: -FOUNDER: Absolutely. We try not to reveal who they are, because this is their private time, and they want to just come in here and relax.

HENRY: Does this mean we have metrosexuals in Congress?

SARSHAR: It's possible.

HENRY: You can't confirm?

SARSHAR: I can confirm that.

HENRY: And the lounge's chief stylist thinks both presidential tickets need to stop by for makeovers that might help them win some votes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator John Kerry a lot of comments about his hair out there. He needs to crop it down a bit. It looks like someone put a pot on his hair and sort of cut around his hair. So what we recommend for John Kerry is for him to basically trim down the hair and not only shape up his face, but it will make him look a little less tall. One other issue that we see with John Kerry is that he definitely needs an eyebrow wax, and his eyebrows are very fury.

HENRY: Lets talk a little bit about President Bush, what do you think about his style? His image?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has been fighting the war on terror, and I'm sure he doesn't get much very sleep. But to prevent the eyes from sagging and a combination of the sun on the ranch, I would think a little eye cream would be necessary.

HENRY: What about Senator John Edwards?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well John Edwards is a little to perfect, so eliminate that boyish look that he has. What we recommend is for John Edwards to texturize his hair a bit and use a fiber based product.

HENRY: What kind of advice would you give Dick Cheney?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you have no hair, if you're balding like that just take it off, get rid of it. So get out a pair of clippers and just shave your head. And believe me a lot of others will be able to relate to that.

HENRY: What about the man known as Rumstud, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He could get a crew cut which would make him look a little bit more like a military man. But what I would do for Secretary Rumsfeld is I would take all the gel out of his hair, again let it loose a bit, and perhaps eliminate the glasses.

HENRY: OK, what about the man known on Capitol Hill as the hammer, house majority leader Tom Delay?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A Caesar hair cut, sort of like what George Clooney wears a shorter hair cut, his hair is a little to stiff right now.

HENRY: I've got one more for you. What about me?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well the first thing I would do for you is I believe the sides, as far as your hair goes; the sides are a little too long. I would also go through the top and I don't really recommend the slicked back hair for you, so what I would do is I would cut your hair a little bit shorter.

HENRY: That's what I call an extreme makeover. Covering the politicians and the products, the hill and the haircuts. Ed Henry, CNN, Washington.

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WHITFIELD: Metrosexuals among the politicals nothing wrong with that, well how do you define metro-sexuals? Perhaps a man unafraid of nurturing his stylishly conscious side. Well author Peter Hyman has written a book about this gender bending phenomenal called "The Reluctant Metrosexual" dispatches from an almost hip life. He joins us from Detroit. Well good to see you Peter.

PETER HYMAN, AUTHOR: Hi Fredricka. How are you? Thanks for having me.

WHITFIELD: I'm doing pretty good. First of all, you've got to define what is the reluctant metrosexual.

HYMAN: Well reluctant metrosexual is someone who fears commitment generally and fierce metrosexualality spacifically. And the reason I called the book "The Reluctant Metrosexual" is also because the word reluctant tested much better in national focus groups than hypoallergenic integrities so we went with that.

WHITFIELD: Does this mean that metrosexual has become a dirty word? I mean a lot of guys who are metrosexual just don't want to admit it, because it infers something else?

HYMAN: I think it does, I think again personally I use the word reluctant. We thought it would help sell books, but also I think for me, I would never really self-define myself as a metrosexual or as a gen-x person or as aupy (ph). I think the terms sort of has the same kind of simplistic moniker, and I think its kind of really being used as more as a marketing construct than anything to define legitimate subculture.

WHITFIELD: So then your book ends up being kind of a funny guide to being a metrosexual? Yes? HYMAN: Somewhat, not really. It's actually -- well the font is very funny, I want to say, that first off. It's printed on a very funny font. I don't know how funny the book is. But it's really less a guidebook than it is to some extent unfortunately really an examination of my life through a collection of humorous essays.

Now whether the person going through those kind of misadventures is a metrosexual as opposed to I may have some tendencies that meet that term such as -- inability to discern between, you know, trousers that are flat front and pleated Dockers, apparently that somehow elevates me into that stratister (ph). But the book doesn't really give guides suggestions to people as to how you should decorate your home or what kind of flowers to put out. There are books that do that.

WHITFIELD: So if you are a metrosexual, you probably already know it, even though you don't want to necessarily profess as such. You mention in your book that metrosexuals have an affinity for expensive home furnishings, la prairie face products, or I guess any kind of big name, expensive designer face products, and heirloom tomatoes?

HYMAN: Well I used those sort of very specific examples, I think, in a way. I was attempting to send up the point that it's become kind of this -- again, a marketing construct is that -- in my opinion. So I -- you know, again, and I think the next line after that is something like oddly, you know, I prefer well-made objects to those of lesser quality.

And I think that it's sort obvious that anyone would want nicer things, and I don't know why -- what I have issue is why that means you're in this kind of special class that has this, you know, somehow this new determination.

WHITFIELD: I like it that your determination in the book, if there is a place where metrosexuals congregate, for one it would be the Conde Nast Building in Manhattan.

HYMAN: Well yes, although, the population of straight men in that building is very, very small, I did work there, I worked at "Vanity Fair" for about four years, and I think sort of in those types of industries you have men who perhaps lean a little bit more towards having an aesthetic sensibility that could be just gay enough.

I think that that in a way is what, if you want a definition of metrosexual, again I'm reluctant to use the term unless it would help my faltering career. But if you wanted a definition it might be a straight guy whose aesthetics are just gay enough. For better or worse, and I'm not advocating that people do that.

WHITFIELD: And I hope you're kidding in your book about your experience with the Brazilian wax. Please tell me you're kidding?

HYMAN: I don't know, you know it's difficult to say. The book is a collection of essays that are all true with the exceptions that I made up entirely, the parts I made up entirely. So that part, I think we'll leave it up to the readers to determine. But you know it was an interesting experience that particular.

WHITFIELD: So bottom line, can you be too coifed; you know can you be to stylish to be metrosexual, to kind of lose the luster of being a metrosexual?

HYMAN: Can one be too coifed? I think absolutely. And I think that anyone who sort of follows these kind of queer eye and any sort of extreme makeover type of advice too literally again, is probably not -- they might be a metrosexual, but they probably don't have their own unique since ability which I think is probably more interesting than just being someone that follows you know a Kenneth Cole catalog to a tee and looks like it.

WHITFIELD: All right, Peter Hyman in Detroit. Thanks so much for joining us. The book is "The Reluctant Metrosexual" dispatches from an almost hip life.

HYMAN: Thank you very much.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks a lot. Good luck to you in your book.

HYMAN: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: And it wouldn't be the end of the show coming up if we weren't watching late night laughs. Politics as seen through the seriously skewed eyes of Jon Stewart and Craig Kilborn straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: American politics always provide great fodder for the late night talk shows, and here's how they got some laughs this week.

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JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART:" My truth is that I am a gay American. (bleep).

Holy smoke, batman! I had no idea McGreevey was an American!

CRAIG KILBORNE, "THE LATE, LATE SHOW WITH CRAIG KILBORN:" My name is Craig Kilborne, I think everyone has heard the big news by now about me, I am leaving and I'm a gay American.

STEWART: I want to thank you guys for bringing the Republican National Convention to New York, because we were not enough of a target before. So well done, sir!

KILBORN: I honestly cannot believe I'm out of a job before George Bush. I was just --

STEWART: Why all the noise, why from both parties all the noise? Why the fog, why not just than have that debate?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because of what went on right now.

STEWART: Comedy central is the problem? Oh, my god! Oh, my god!

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WHITFIELD: And lots of laughs. That's it for us; straight ahead Paula Zahn explores the undecided vote with a town hall meeting in Ohio. And at 6:00 Eastern "CNN Live Sunday" continues with Carol Lin. Our senior political analyst Bill Schneider will join Carol to talk about the latest swift boat controversy and what it could mean come November.

And tonight on "People in the News," the political and personal lives of Ralph Nader and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Thanks for joining us; I'll be back with a look at the headlines.

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Is there anything especially gross left to eat in the world? Another reality show chips in with its gormet delites. But at issues is the controversial prize in the end.
And what's this you ask? Spiky hair on John Edwards? No hair on Dick Cheney? Leaner hair on John Kerry. And puffy eyes on the president. Professional groomers take a stand on politicians' looks.

And the artworld screams at its latest loss. Will Edvard Munch's paintings be recovered?

Hellow and welcome to CNN'S SUNDAY. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. First, let's check at what's happening now.

A French-American hostage is a free man. 36-year-old journalist Micah Garen was released in Nasiriyah today. He was kidnapped with his Iraqi translator more than a week ago. Right after his release, Garen told al-Jazeera television he was treated well during his captivity. And we'll have more in just a moment.

About 400 Florida students from Benhill Griffin Junior Elementary school will be going to a makeshift school in a Baptist Church tomorrow. Their school, which was heavily damaged by Hurricane Charley is still under repair. More on this story in about 30 minutes.

Fighting in Najaf eases slightly today, but the standoff continues. The wherabouts of wanted Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr are unknown. Iraq's Ministry of Health says 49 Iraqis were killed in the fighting in the last 24 hours.

And Pakistan now says the number of terror suspects arrested could be up to 10. The men are believed to have links to al Qaeda and were apparently planning to bomb several high-profile targets.

More than a week in captivity, French-American journalist Micah Garen has been released by his Iraqi captors. The 36-year-old was in Iraq working on a documentary about endangered archaeological sites. CNN's John Vause is following this developing story from Baghdad. And he joins us live with details -- John.

JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Fredricka. Micah Garen was held for about 9 days by a group calling themselves the Martyrs Brigade. They had threatened to kill him unless the U.S. and the Iraqi government ended their military offensive in Najaf. Now, a number of news organizations and the group Reporters Without Borders appealed directly to Muqtada al Sadr and his senior aides to intervene. They did. They began negotiations with this group about four days ago. They comdemned the kidnappings, they described it as unIslamic.

This is the second time al-Sadr's have become involved in negotiations to try and free a journalist. About two weeks ago, James Brandon, a British journalist, was taken from his hotel room in Basra. And once again, al-Sadr's men intervened. He was freed within a few hours.

Now Garen is a freelance reporter. He was working on a documentary about the theft of Iraq's antiquities when he was taken from a marketplace in Nasiriyah along with his Iraqi translator. Both have been release, both say they are now in good health -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: John Vause, thanks for the update from Baghdad.

Well, now turning to a major point of terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay. The legal battles for a handful of the some 600 suspected Taliban and al Qaeda detainees held at the U.S. facility in Cuba are heating up. Four terrorism suspects charged with conspiracy against the U.S. will go before a military commission starting Tuesday.

Our Susan Candiotti is at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay working on this case -- Susan.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI: Hello, Fredricka. Yes, as you said, proceedings don't begin until Tuesday, however, even military career veterans here call the tension palpable. They say there hasn't been this much attention to the base and on the base in years, not since the war on terror began.

Today, a dress rehearsal of sorts for the participants, except for the defendants, in historic proceedings that are about to begin. Now, we cannot show you the walk through, only the empty courtroom here at the base where no TV cameras will be allowed once the military commission starts.

More than 2 1/2 years after the first prisoners began to arrive from Afghanistan, the first 4 detainees charged so far with alleged war crimes go on trial. There are no witnesses that will be appearing. We only understand a guilty or not guilty plea may be entered and other motions will be argued.

Two of the defendant the from Yemen, one from The Sudan, 1 Australian. The process itself is tightly restricted, citing national security reasons. This military commission ordered by the president himself is held outside the United States. Five people will sit in judgment, all approved by the deputy secretary of defense.

There is no judge per se, a presiding officer. There is no independent civilian review of this process. However, authorities insist, the proceeding will be fair. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SUSAN MCGARVEY, U.S. NAVY: They can cross-examine each government witness as well as put on their own witnesses. They have the ability to offer evidence, in addition to witnesses, and they can -- you'll see, they can challenge the members. And with respect to that, they are presumed innocent and the standard is they must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

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CANDIOTTI: However, not everyone agrees that the proceedings will be fair to everyone. Critic, including human rights groups, question how fair the process will be.

We can tell you that when it is over, the maximum penalty is death for all the defendants but one, the Australian. And the judge will be overseeing the entire process, the presiding officer in this case.

If someone is found not guilty, it doesn't mean automatic freedom for the defendant. Because all of these people have been labeled enemy combatants, they can be held theoretically indefinitely until someone decides the war on terror is over -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Susan, when they use the terms, this is going to be a fair proceeding does, that mean that each of the 4 in particular will have legal representation?

CANDIOTTI: They do. All have been afforded free attorneys provided by the U.S. military. So technically not someone they automatically chose for themselves. They could hire someone, only one has been able to do so, the Australian, David Hicks.

WHITFIELD: Susan Candiotti, thanks very much for that update from GITMO.

Well adding more details about the September 11 attacks now. The officially disbanded 9/11 commission has released two legnthy reports on its Web site. It offers more information about terrorist financing that was not released in the commission's final report back in July.

The reports also show how the 19 hijackers violated U.S. immigration laws to gain entry into the U.S. or abuse laws to remain here illegally.

Details are also revealed about how alleged plot mastermind, Khalid Shaik Mohammed and two of his alleged co-conspirators, applied and received visas. Only Mohammed was successful in using his to enter the U.S. He was captured last year and is being held at an undisclosed location.

Now to politics, where an ad by the swift boat veterans group is rocking the boat at the White House. A former P.O.W. and volunteer for the president's re-election campaign has quit after appearing in one of the group's ads attacking John Kerry. Our Jill Dougherty is in Crawford, Texas where the president is spending the weekend -- Jill.

JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, that is just one development. And actually the latest one is this ad coming from the Kerry campaign, and it's really sparking another firestorm over that issue of Vietnam and the wartime record of John Kerry. This ad by the Kerry campaign, directly acuses the Bush campaign of connection to those so-called swift boat attack ads.

Now, just a few minutes ago, the Bush campaign came out and they said that they're asking TV station managers not to run it. They say that it is false, that it wrongly accuses the Bush campaign of violating campaign finance laws.

And Fredricka, you'd have to say that today really marked a point where the discussion and the debate and the fighting over this became extraordinarily personal. We had, for instance, the daughter of Senator Kerry, Vanessa Kerry, on TV today defending her father. Here's what she said.

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VANESSA KERRY, DAUGHTER OF SEN. JOHN KERRY: Which wound do you want to see? Which scar do you need to see to prove that my father served? And it's very frustrating when you grow up seeing somebody who is continually been courageous, fighting for something he believes in, sort of attacked unfairly, and with lies.

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DOUGHERTY: And another case, Senator Bob Dole, a decorated World War II veteran also weighing in very personally about John Kerry.

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BOB DOLE, FRM. U.S. SENATOR: I always quarrelled about are the Purple Hearts. I mean the first one, whether he should have got a Purple Heart --he got 2 in one day, I think, and he was out in less than four months. Three Purple Hearts and you are out. And as far as I know, he's never spent 1 day in the hospital. I don't think he draws any disability pay. He doesn't have any disability. And boasting about 2 Purple Hearts, when you think about some of the people who really got shot up in Vietnam.

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DOUGHERTY: So, both parties continue to say that they ultimately want to talk about the issues. And they say, at least publicly, that they are uncomfortable about all of this. And obviously, it has really touched a nerve.

We may get a chance tomorrow, Monday, to ask President Bush about that. He will be having a brief meeting with reporters and perhaps he'll have something to say, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And Jill, now that the Bush camp has asked that television managers not run these ads. Is there any way of knowing whether the Kerry camp will, in any way, withdraw their complaints to the FEC, or if they'll continue to pursue that?

DOUGHERTY: Well, the Kerry camp made it very clear that they believe in that complaint. That's why they filed it with the FEC. And it would be probably hard at this point to imagine that they would withdraw it.

This is just continuing to escalate with each side saying that the other side is overstepping the boundaries. And as you can see, that's exactly what seems to be happening.

WHITFIELD: All right. Jill Dougherty, thanks so much from Crawford, Texas.

Well, John Kerry and his running mate John Edwards, are wooing voters and raising cash. Kerry greeted New Yorkers at church on Long Island today. He spent much of the weekend in the Hamptons attending a number of private events, including a $25,000 a plate dinner.

Edwards attended church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He's also spending time with a laid-off textile worker and other voters in North Carolina today. Later he's expected to campaign in Milwaukee.

With the election expected to be close, both campaigns are focusing on the undecide voter, people who are often disenfranchise, like ex-cons and the homeless are being registered in droves. Our Ali Velshi looks at the push to get out the vote in unexpected places.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For me, it gives me a chance to voice my opinion. And to get a chance, if possible to elect a person I believe can actually run this country.

ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice-over): there are an estimated 3.5 million homeless people in America. They don't run in power circles, but many of them want to vote.

HAROLD CHANEY, HOMELESS IN DC: I think this will be one of the most important elections that we're going to have in this particular -- this century.

VELSHI: With this election shaping up to be tight one, even registered homeless voters can make a difference.

DONALD WHITEHEAD, NATL COALITION FOR HOMELESS: We want to register about 25,000 people nationally. Twenty-five thousand people is definitely -- would impact races in a lot of states.

VELSHI: But advocates concede that faced with the daily struggle for survival, registering to vote isn't a homeless person's top priority.

VELSHI, (on-camera): People who are homeless can rental to vote. Let's say you sleep near an intersection, or in a park. The U.S. voter registration form actually has a place where you can draw in where you live. If you spend a lot of time at a soup kitchen or shelter, you can use that as your address, too. And the drive to register disenfranchised voters isn't stopping with the homeless.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are listening to "Rocking the Boat," here on WOOB ...

VELSHI, (voice-over): A couple Maryland radio hosts, one an ex- convict himself, want to turn people from the cellblock, into a voting block.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where is the concept that folks shouldn't have their felony ranks restored?

VELSHI: In most cases, convicted felons lose their right to vote. In 30 states, ex-cons can register to vote once they serve their sentence.

MARVIN "DOC" CHEATHAM, HOST, ROCK AND THE VOTE: Right now, believe it or not, there are over 200,000 in the state of Maryland that are eligible that are former felons, but they have no idea that they can register to vote. Our goal is basically to restore voting rights to felons who have paid their debt to society.

HASSAN ALLEN GIORDANO, VOTING RIGHTS REST COALITION: People who are citizens who have made mistakes, who have served their time to society, now deserve their right to vote as well.

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WHITFIELD: Well, the hottest reality show on Spanish television is a program where contestants compete to win not cash or prices, but the hope of a green card. I'll talk with the show's creator and a critic of the program coming up.

And the fastest man in the world? Find out who now holds those bragging rights?

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WHITFIELD: If you're an illegal immigrant in this country, would you willingly go on TV and profess your intent of getting a green card? That's, in part, the premise of this next story about a popular new reality show. Here's CNN's Peter Viles.

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PETER VILES (voice-over): Behind the scenes at the hottest new reality TV show in Los Angeles. Like "Fear Factor," it's a contest to eat disgusting food. Today, Nachos with duck embryos.

But there's a bizarre twist, in "Gana la Verde" the prize isn't money, it's the hope of a green card, which means legal residency. Winners receive free legal advice from an immigration lawyer, which means some of the contestants are illegal aliens. This is how the show begins.

Contest includes risky stunts, jumping from one speeding truck to another, jumping from one speeding boat to another, fending off attack dogs, climbing down the side of a cliff.

Of course there's food: Contestants have eaten worms, and burritos stuffed with pig intestine, and a plate full of scorpions.

(on camera): And "Gana la Verde," is only broadcast in four American cities right now, and yet it's already a huge ratings hit. In Los Angeles alone, it's now reaching a weekly audience of 1 million viewers.

(voice-over): And it is causing controversy. Critics say the show offers false hope to immigrants, while humiliating them and exposing them to legal action.

CARL SHUSTERNMAN, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: And as an ex-I.N.S. Prosecutor, I think it's totally bizarre. It's like, here I am, I'm illegal, come and get me. Unfortunately for them, the criteria for getting a green card is not determined by how many worms or scorpions that you eat, it's determined whether you have relatives who are U.S. citizens who can apply for you.

VILES: The creator of the program says no laws are being broken and no one is being misled about the ultimate prize.

LENARD LIBERMAN, LIBERMAN BROADCASTER: No one says, if you participate and do these things you have a green card. We are very up front and very honest and explain we are here to help you, we want to provide a service which is valuable to you. But I wonder if those critics would say anything if you were providing a breast implant or toaster oven? that would be a better prize?

VILES: The federal government is not amused. In a statement, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement tells CNN, quote, "exploiting individual hopes and creating inaccurate expectations can lead the public to believe that legal immigration benefits can easily be acquired by anyone which is not the case.

Now, not all of the contestants are illegal. Some told us they are trying to win green cards for relatives. Now in any event, the station says literally thousands of people, Lou, are lining up to appear on this program. Peter Viles, CNN, Burbank, California.

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WHITFIELD: Well, does this program exploit those contestants who appear? Or does it give them an opportunity they couldn't get otherwise? Joining me from Los Angeles is Leonard Lieberman. He's the creator of "Gana la Verde." And from Miami, we have John de Leon. He's a civil rights attorney. Good to see both of you, gentlemen.

All right. Well, this is a hugely popular show among Hispanic audience between the ages 18 and 49. It's the No. 2 show, Mr. Lieberman. We get it, it's kind of "Fear Factor" like of a show. Can you tell us something more about these contestants?

LEONARD LIEBERMAN, CREATOR "GANA LA VERDE": Well, the contestants live mostly in Los Angeles, although, they're welcome to come from other parts of the country as well. Each day -- we shoot a show five days a week and each day 6 participants participate. And there's one winner everyday. And that winner receives the a services of a board certified immigration specialist to help with their immigration case.

WHITFIELD: Well, in the piece you just saw, some of those contestants are illegal immigrants. What do you do in terms of pursuing some of these immigrants so that you don't end up with a real legal nightmare for the contestants and for your show?

LIEBERMAN: Obviously, that's a great concern to us. And let me correct a myth that exists for some reason. Everyone who participates on the show is 18 years or older, and they represent to us that they're a legal resident of the United States. We don't induce illegal immigrants to participate on the show. And in fact, you need to be legally in the United States to participate.

WHITFIELD: But the criticism is, no matter what, whether they are willing contestants, illegal or otherwise, that their cases are really being exploited. Showing the desperation, the measures that someone will take in order to get some sort of legal residency, a green card.

LIEBERMAN: In terms of exploitation, Hispanics can appear on "Fear Factor" or "Survivor" and "The Apprentice" and nobody cares. But the fact that we offer a prize of great value to our community, meaning legal services, everybody is aghast. It's amazing that one can offer a great prize as opposed to Armani suits for a year and everybody criticizes us. So, you can dress Jose for success for a year and that's OK, but help Jose become a real success and everybody has a problem. I personally have a problem with that.

WHITFIELD: With that legal representation, aren't you offering to these contestants that there is some hope, much greater chance for them that they're likely to get the green card, because they have the legal representation? Are you making a promise to them just by virtue of rewarding them?

LIEBERMAN: Absolutely not. My father himself was a Mexican immigrant. He came to the United States. Nobody helped him become a U.S. citizen, it took many years, and all he received is racism and obstacles. We would never misrepresent to our public. We are very careful about explaining to everybody who appears on the show that what we can offer is legal services.

And you know, the fact of the matter is, that the majority of our participants qualify for improved immigration in the United States and never knew it. A gentleman by the name of Carlos Ocampo (ph), he could have received a green card two years ago, but he could not afford the attorneys to represent him. Through our show he found out that he qualifies for a green card. That is an amazing service.

WHITFIELD: All right, Mr. De leon, so what's your problem with this. Mr. Lieberman is saying it's quite simple, it's being able to provide some legal service that soem of these people otherwise would not have been able to afford or get? What's the matter with that? JOHN DE LEON, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Well, this is, frankly, about as racist as you get on television. Here we are a television production company that's exploiting a group of people trying under very difficult circumstances to live in our country. It's exploiting them in legal limbo. You can you say that they're here legally, but the reality is, the fact that they need the green card, and the fact they need legal representation is because they do need to get their status adjusted. They are in legal limbo.

WHITFIELD: You say this is nothing more than taking advantage of their situation?

DE LEON: They're absolutely taking advantage of the situation for financial gain. Frankly, I think a couple of things, this is like dangling in front of somebody who is very ill doctor services and then having them go through the indignity of seeing the things that we on television earlier of people eating worms and eating scorpions. It is really, frankly, as offensive a show as there is on television.

The difference between this and "Fear Factor" is on "Fear Fact" on, the people on that show aren't in any sort of legal limbo. They're there because they want to participate in the show. This is attacking the vulnerabilities of people who are in very, many of them, very difficult situation. They need to get their status adjusted and they're preying on these people's necessity to get their citizenship.

WHITFIELD: But similar to the example Mr. Lieberman gave, sometimes it might take someone as much as a decade or even longer to get a Green Card. If this is an opportunity in which to shorten that amount of time by getting the amount of legal representation, then it seems like this would be a win-win situation, if it's strictly defined as Mr. Lieberman puts it?

DE LEON: Fredericka, frankly the attorneys who are involved in the sham should be investigated by the Bar associations which they belong. Practicing law in California or in Florida or in Texas or in Georgia, or wherever these contestants are coming from, the practice of law should not devolve into becoming a game show and that's exactly what's going on here.

WHITFIELD: So, Mr. Lieberman, how do you respond to that?

LIEBERMAN: I live in a real world and there is fact versus fiction. The fact is Hispanics in Los Angeles and the southwest and maybe East Coast liberals don't understand this. They live in fear, they have anxiety and they can't afford attorneys. They have 2 and 3 jobs, they live check to check, and they don't have access to free legal service or attorneys. And I find it offensive people think they do.

The fact that we have a reality TV show is well accepted in society today. You can be -- a Hispanic can appear in fear factor, a Hispanic can appear on Survivor, a Hispanic can on Apprentice, nobody knows their legal residence when they apply to be on those shows. Nobody does an investigation they, but they can appear on those shows.

DE LEON: But Leonard, the reality is you're taking advantage, precisely, of the legal condition, not other factors.

LIEBERMAN: I'm here to offer help.

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WHITFIELD: That will have to be the last word. We're out of time. John de Leon civil rights attorney out of Miami. And Leonard Lieberman, Thanks so much you for joining us from Los Angeles. The creator of the show "Gana la Verde." Sorry to cut you off, gentleman, we're out of time.

Well, one of the world's most famous paintings is now in the hands of thieves after a daring bold heist. The story straight ahead.

And making do in Florida, an elementary school won't be open for class tomorrow, because of Hurricane Charley so a local church is stepping in.

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WHITFIELD: In Norway, it's an art theft that make authorities and art lovers want to scream: 2 priceless paints snatched from an Oslo museum in broad daylight. CNN's Glenn Van Sutphin has details.

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GLENN VAN SUTPHIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The brazen daytime theft of 2 well-known paintings from Oslo's Munch Museum took guards and patrons by surprise.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two persons with hoods on their heads, they were disguised and with weapons, rushed into the museum, and they knew exactly where the paintings were. So they went directly up to them, took them down from the wall and run out as the alarm came on. And they threatened the guards with guns.

VAN SUTPHIN: The thieves made off with the paintings worth millions of dollars.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Men coming forward with a black guard over his mouth and nose and black pants but a gray sweatshirt. So, we weren't sure what to think of him. And he came -- he kind of paused at back, and then he came rushing forward. And he went towards "The Madonna painting. And he grabbed that off the wall. And he kind of -- he started banging it against the wall and against the ground, I guess because the gray strings weren't breaking off for him. And then he kind of looked confused as to what to do next.

He then saw "The Scream," and ran towards that and grabbed that off the wall. And then he started rushing the front and we started rushing out the back.

VAN SUTPHIN: The picture frames were later found in another part of the city, the pictures cut out. Investigators are still looking for further clues. ERLEND FERNANDEZ STEDDING, (via telephone): They have camera footage of the robbery now and they also managed to get some pictures taken by tourists that were at the scene during the robbery. According to police, police reports this evening, they have no suspects at the moment, and they are asking witnesses now to come forward to help the police with the investigation.

VAN SUTPHIN (ph): Edvard Munch who lived from 1863 to 1944 painted four versions of "The Scream." A founder of modern expressionism he painted both "The Scream" and "Madonna" as part of a series about love, fear and death. The best-known version of "The Scream" was stolen in 1994 and later recovered. It now hangs in the Oslo National Gallery.

Glenn Van Sutphin, CNN, Atlanta.

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WHITFIELD: Other news happening now. French American journalist Micah Garen was released today in Nasiriyah, Iraq after being held for more than a week. Garen was kidnapped along with his translator while walking in a busy market in the Iraqi city. Garen said he was treated well during his captivity.

The first preliminary hearings for terror suspects being held at the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center will start next week, four men will face a commission of military officers, the hearing for each man is expected to take a full day.

New Jersey Governor James McGreevey took to the editorial pages today to explain his reluctance to immediately resign his post. He writes his administration has important initiatives to accomplish and that a special election would side track those goals.

Keeping you informed, CNN the most trusted name in news.

And who is the fastest man on earth? It's -- wait a minute, there's a starting line. Stick around. We'll have a live report on who crossed the finish line first?

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WHITFIELD: Hurricane Charley caused billions of dollars worth of damage to homes and business in Florida. Some area schools were also hit hard in last weeks storm. One elementary school is getting a helping hand however from a local church. CNN's Sarah Dorsey is in southwest Florida. Sarah.

SARAH DORSEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi Fredricka. The sign is under construction, welcoming the Ben Hill Griffin elementary students here to the First Baptist Church, this is where they will be reporting to school tomorrow because their original school building was devastated by Hurricane Charley. The destruction is extensive.

The storm peeled back the roof there and water seeped in, damaging papers in the office, many of the schoolrooms. Some of the books. Construction crews are beginning to clean up there, but students of course won't be able to go back for quite awhile. Instead, they will report here to the First Baptist Church. Teachers and students will be going back to the basics in this building. The rooms are very small. They were originally built to house Sunday school classes. And they are a little bit split up.

Many of the students will come to the building here, and others will go across the street into a house that has been turned in to another school building. Teachers don't have black boards on many of the walls; some of them are using dry erase boards and things like that in order to teach the students. They say they're going to have to make do. It is going to be cramped, but they say possibly it will offer the students a new experience, something they'll probably remember for quite awhile -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Well Sarah, you have to wonder will there be a lot of students since so many of these families were displaced?

DORSEY: That's a question I did ask. They say they do hope many of the students will show up but they know several families that have students in this area have lost their homes and are living in shelters, they told me they will make special exceptions for any of those students that can't come to school tomorrow.

WHITFIELD: All right, Sarah Dorsey thanks so much.

Well here's a question for you, are men paying more attention to their clothing? Getting more manicures, talking about baby stuff to their male friends. Is it possible that more men out there are metro sexual? The author of "The Reluctant Metrosexual" joins us soon. Right after we take a look at grooming suggestions for U.S. political leaders. Should Dick Cheney shave his head? Should John Kerry cut his hair? The professionals weigh in.

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WHITFIELD: It's been another full day of competition at the Olympics in Athens, Greece. Today was the day for crowning the fastest man in the world among other victories. CNN's sports correspondent Larry Smith is joining us live from Athens, and you know Larry I love to hang on every word of yours, but understand and don't take offense as to why I'm going to cover my ears this time.

LARRY SMITH, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: OK gotcha. Because this was thrilling though Fredricka. One of the fastest races in Olympic history. The top four finishers in the men's 100-yard dash all within .04 second within each other. Here's the winner, if you don't want to know, don't look, mute your TV. Justin Gatlin takes gold. The 22 year old running in a time of 9.85 seconds that is a personal best. 2000 Sidney gold medallist Maurice Greene takes home bronze five runners finishing in ten seconds or less. A thrilling finish to end the evening at the Olympic Stadium here in Athens.

Now another scandal to talk about the gold medal winner of the first-ever women's competition ever to be held at ancient Olympia could lose that title, Russia's Irina Korzhanenko has failed a drug test. She will meet with IOC officials with her faith, not looking very good right now. She could follow in the footsteps of Leonidas Sampanis the Greek weight lifter today, striped of his bronze medal by the IOC. He had tested positive for twice the level of testosterone allowed, and so he has been banished from these games.

The marathon, women's marathon finishing at Pannako (ph) Stadium just about less than a mile away from our location here, and it was a win for Japan and Mizuki Noguchi getting the gold medal ahead of the Catherine Nedereba of Kenya. The U.S. takes bronze, Dina Kester becomes the -- she is the first American woman to take bronze since Joan Benoit back in 1984 in Los Angeles. Britain's Paula Radcliffe by the way favored but she quit the race late in the race, she is the world record holder but ran out of steam in the heat here in Athens.

And we finish off with the U.S. Softball women's team; they've done it again, now 8-0 in these games a 5-0 win over Australia. Lisa Fernandez a three hitter, they'll face the Aussies again tomorrow for the gold medal. Australia later beating Japan to earn another crack at the U.S. Once again they are 8-0 still have yet to allow a single run in these games. In fact Fredricka in eight games they allowed only 14 hits, trying to now win their third gold medal in as many Olympics.

Lets go back to you.

WHITFIELD: Wow, they're indeed all-time favorites. But I think now a new favorite is this woman marathoner, people are so happy to see that kind of history being made. Well tonight is also a big night for individual gymnast, isn't it? Hopefully no scandals there?

SMITH: There really is, but not a very good night though. Well no scandals right now, you have heard over the weekend we now heard that Paul Hamm's gold medal that he won the first-ever by an American male in the all-around, we heard on Saturday that they did admit there was a scoring mistake he should not have won that gold medal, as of right now he does keep it.

He did not fare well tonight as he finished sixth and last in the two events he was in the individual the pommel horse he was sixth. Last in the floor exercise, it was not a very good night for Paul Hamm or the Americans who did not medal in any of the men's gymnastic events.

WHITFIELD: Eek, what a contrast. All right, Larry Smith from Athens thanks so much.

Well many movers and shakers in Washington appear to be on the political grooming bandwagon, politicians are shelling out big bucks for expensive haircuts and facials and massages to sharpen up their public image. But what about the presidential ticket. CNN's Ed Henry has the story.

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ED HENRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Some of Washington's best kept secrets are not in the capitol or the White House, they're here at the grooming lounge, a D.C. spa for men, where male politicians like to sneak away to exfoliate and moisturize.

Men come for $50.00 haircuts and facials that run $90.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are male politicians who come in to exfoliate, to get manicures.

PIRDOZ SARSHAR, GROOMING LOUNGE COHEN: -FOUNDER: Absolutely. We try not to reveal who they are, because this is their private time, and they want to just come in here and relax.

HENRY: Does this mean we have metrosexuals in Congress?

SARSHAR: It's possible.

HENRY: You can't confirm?

SARSHAR: I can confirm that.

HENRY: And the lounge's chief stylist thinks both presidential tickets need to stop by for makeovers that might help them win some votes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator John Kerry a lot of comments about his hair out there. He needs to crop it down a bit. It looks like someone put a pot on his hair and sort of cut around his hair. So what we recommend for John Kerry is for him to basically trim down the hair and not only shape up his face, but it will make him look a little less tall. One other issue that we see with John Kerry is that he definitely needs an eyebrow wax, and his eyebrows are very fury.

HENRY: Lets talk a little bit about President Bush, what do you think about his style? His image?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has been fighting the war on terror, and I'm sure he doesn't get much very sleep. But to prevent the eyes from sagging and a combination of the sun on the ranch, I would think a little eye cream would be necessary.

HENRY: What about Senator John Edwards?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well John Edwards is a little to perfect, so eliminate that boyish look that he has. What we recommend is for John Edwards to texturize his hair a bit and use a fiber based product.

HENRY: What kind of advice would you give Dick Cheney?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you have no hair, if you're balding like that just take it off, get rid of it. So get out a pair of clippers and just shave your head. And believe me a lot of others will be able to relate to that.

HENRY: What about the man known as Rumstud, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He could get a crew cut which would make him look a little bit more like a military man. But what I would do for Secretary Rumsfeld is I would take all the gel out of his hair, again let it loose a bit, and perhaps eliminate the glasses.

HENRY: OK, what about the man known on Capitol Hill as the hammer, house majority leader Tom Delay?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A Caesar hair cut, sort of like what George Clooney wears a shorter hair cut, his hair is a little to stiff right now.

HENRY: I've got one more for you. What about me?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well the first thing I would do for you is I believe the sides, as far as your hair goes; the sides are a little too long. I would also go through the top and I don't really recommend the slicked back hair for you, so what I would do is I would cut your hair a little bit shorter.

HENRY: That's what I call an extreme makeover. Covering the politicians and the products, the hill and the haircuts. Ed Henry, CNN, Washington.

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WHITFIELD: Metrosexuals among the politicals nothing wrong with that, well how do you define metro-sexuals? Perhaps a man unafraid of nurturing his stylishly conscious side. Well author Peter Hyman has written a book about this gender bending phenomenal called "The Reluctant Metrosexual" dispatches from an almost hip life. He joins us from Detroit. Well good to see you Peter.

PETER HYMAN, AUTHOR: Hi Fredricka. How are you? Thanks for having me.

WHITFIELD: I'm doing pretty good. First of all, you've got to define what is the reluctant metrosexual.

HYMAN: Well reluctant metrosexual is someone who fears commitment generally and fierce metrosexualality spacifically. And the reason I called the book "The Reluctant Metrosexual" is also because the word reluctant tested much better in national focus groups than hypoallergenic integrities so we went with that.

WHITFIELD: Does this mean that metrosexual has become a dirty word? I mean a lot of guys who are metrosexual just don't want to admit it, because it infers something else?

HYMAN: I think it does, I think again personally I use the word reluctant. We thought it would help sell books, but also I think for me, I would never really self-define myself as a metrosexual or as a gen-x person or as aupy (ph). I think the terms sort of has the same kind of simplistic moniker, and I think its kind of really being used as more as a marketing construct than anything to define legitimate subculture.

WHITFIELD: So then your book ends up being kind of a funny guide to being a metrosexual? Yes? HYMAN: Somewhat, not really. It's actually -- well the font is very funny, I want to say, that first off. It's printed on a very funny font. I don't know how funny the book is. But it's really less a guidebook than it is to some extent unfortunately really an examination of my life through a collection of humorous essays.

Now whether the person going through those kind of misadventures is a metrosexual as opposed to I may have some tendencies that meet that term such as -- inability to discern between, you know, trousers that are flat front and pleated Dockers, apparently that somehow elevates me into that stratister (ph). But the book doesn't really give guides suggestions to people as to how you should decorate your home or what kind of flowers to put out. There are books that do that.

WHITFIELD: So if you are a metrosexual, you probably already know it, even though you don't want to necessarily profess as such. You mention in your book that metrosexuals have an affinity for expensive home furnishings, la prairie face products, or I guess any kind of big name, expensive designer face products, and heirloom tomatoes?

HYMAN: Well I used those sort of very specific examples, I think, in a way. I was attempting to send up the point that it's become kind of this -- again, a marketing construct is that -- in my opinion. So I -- you know, again, and I think the next line after that is something like oddly, you know, I prefer well-made objects to those of lesser quality.

And I think that it's sort obvious that anyone would want nicer things, and I don't know why -- what I have issue is why that means you're in this kind of special class that has this, you know, somehow this new determination.

WHITFIELD: I like it that your determination in the book, if there is a place where metrosexuals congregate, for one it would be the Conde Nast Building in Manhattan.

HYMAN: Well yes, although, the population of straight men in that building is very, very small, I did work there, I worked at "Vanity Fair" for about four years, and I think sort of in those types of industries you have men who perhaps lean a little bit more towards having an aesthetic sensibility that could be just gay enough.

I think that that in a way is what, if you want a definition of metrosexual, again I'm reluctant to use the term unless it would help my faltering career. But if you wanted a definition it might be a straight guy whose aesthetics are just gay enough. For better or worse, and I'm not advocating that people do that.

WHITFIELD: And I hope you're kidding in your book about your experience with the Brazilian wax. Please tell me you're kidding?

HYMAN: I don't know, you know it's difficult to say. The book is a collection of essays that are all true with the exceptions that I made up entirely, the parts I made up entirely. So that part, I think we'll leave it up to the readers to determine. But you know it was an interesting experience that particular.

WHITFIELD: So bottom line, can you be too coifed; you know can you be to stylish to be metrosexual, to kind of lose the luster of being a metrosexual?

HYMAN: Can one be too coifed? I think absolutely. And I think that anyone who sort of follows these kind of queer eye and any sort of extreme makeover type of advice too literally again, is probably not -- they might be a metrosexual, but they probably don't have their own unique since ability which I think is probably more interesting than just being someone that follows you know a Kenneth Cole catalog to a tee and looks like it.

WHITFIELD: All right, Peter Hyman in Detroit. Thanks so much for joining us. The book is "The Reluctant Metrosexual" dispatches from an almost hip life.

HYMAN: Thank you very much.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks a lot. Good luck to you in your book.

HYMAN: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: And it wouldn't be the end of the show coming up if we weren't watching late night laughs. Politics as seen through the seriously skewed eyes of Jon Stewart and Craig Kilborn straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: American politics always provide great fodder for the late night talk shows, and here's how they got some laughs this week.

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JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART:" My truth is that I am a gay American. (bleep).

Holy smoke, batman! I had no idea McGreevey was an American!

CRAIG KILBORNE, "THE LATE, LATE SHOW WITH CRAIG KILBORN:" My name is Craig Kilborne, I think everyone has heard the big news by now about me, I am leaving and I'm a gay American.

STEWART: I want to thank you guys for bringing the Republican National Convention to New York, because we were not enough of a target before. So well done, sir!

KILBORN: I honestly cannot believe I'm out of a job before George Bush. I was just --

STEWART: Why all the noise, why from both parties all the noise? Why the fog, why not just than have that debate?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because of what went on right now.

STEWART: Comedy central is the problem? Oh, my god! Oh, my god!

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WHITFIELD: And lots of laughs. That's it for us; straight ahead Paula Zahn explores the undecided vote with a town hall meeting in Ohio. And at 6:00 Eastern "CNN Live Sunday" continues with Carol Lin. Our senior political analyst Bill Schneider will join Carol to talk about the latest swift boat controversy and what it could mean come November.

And tonight on "People in the News," the political and personal lives of Ralph Nader and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Thanks for joining us; I'll be back with a look at the headlines.

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