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Reorganization of Intelligence Gathering?; Najaf Fighting; "The Scream" and Other Paintings Stolen; "TIME" Magazine -- Living to 100.
Aired August 23, 2004 - 08:29 ET
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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everyone. Daryn Kagan with us here in New York City today. Good morning, Daryn.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, Bill. It's good to be here with you on this Monday morning.
HEMMER: Have you given me enough grief yet?
KAGAN: No! We're only halfway done with the show.
HEMMER: We are.
In a moment here, we're going to go back to Iraq. And all the talking has done nothing right now to stop a bloodshed in Najaf. More fighting again today. We'll look at what's happening at this hour. Live to Baghdad for that in a moment.
KAGAN: Also, few works of art are more well known that "The Scream." Right now, though, no one knows where this famous painting is -- well, maybe a couple of thieves do. We're going to look into the investigation into this brazen robbery at the Munch Museum in Oslo, Norway.
HEMMER: Apparently some of the people there on hand just were stunned to see it carried out in front of them with all the security detail in that museum, literally not stopping it. So...
KAGAN: Really not enough.
HEMMER: You're right about that.
In a moment here, do you think exercise is the best way to live to be 100? If so, Sanjay's here with us -- tells us what steps you need to take if you want a shot at the century mark. So, we'll give you that.
KAGAN: We'll do that. Right now, let's check in with Carol Costello -- she is at CNN Center in Atlanta with a look at what is happening now in the news. Good morning.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, Daryn. Thank you.
The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee has announced a new proposal to reorganize the intelligence gathering operation.
Senator Pat Roberts says he wants to break up the CIA and divide its responsibilities among three new agencies. It's considered the most sweeping reorganization proposal by anyone outside of the 9/11 Commission. A reaction from the Pentagon with CNN's Barbara Starr in the next half hour.
Israeli officials are announcing plans to build hundreds of new housing units in the West Bank. U.S. officials have suggested they would not object to continued Israeli construction, but Palestinian officials are warning that such a policy shift would wreck Mideast peace efforts.
Many schools and colleges in Bangladesh are closed today as the nation braces for the potential of more demonstrations. Protesters went on a rampage yesterday and at least 50 people were injured in clashes across the country.
The protests followed a grenade attack Saturday at a rally being addressed by the opposition party leader, killing at least 17 people and injuring 150.
And the city of Chicago says it will not decide until noon today whether the Cubs can play tonight's game at Wrigley Field. Pieces of concrete have fallen from the 90-year-old stadium's upper deck three times since June. Nylon netting has been put up for the time being. A complete repair job is expected when the baseball season ends -- Bill.
HEMMER: Yes, they're going to get that fixed; you know it. Wrigley? The venerable baseball park. Thank you Carol.
U.S. forces and Shiite militants have been engaging in fierce battles this morning in Najaf near that mosque -- reports again of causalities.
Diana Muriel has been working that story in Baghdad now. Good afternoon there, Diana.
DIANA MURIEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Bill. Yes, indeed, another bombardment overnight Sunday night into the early hours of Monday morning. At the shrine of Ali Imam in Najaf.
There have been reports of serious damage and indeed the crew on the ground; the CNN crew on the ground, has seen a two-foot breach in the outer wall of the compound that surrounds -- this wall that surrounds the shrine of Imam Ali.
This is a quite a serious amount of damage that's been sustained there -- but the fighting is ongoing. Not as intense as it was seen overnight but nonetheless ongoing.
That is, negotiations to try and end the impasse between supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr and the U.S. forces and the Iraqi government on the other side as appears to have stalled.
We hear from our team on the ground the concerns have been expressed by representatives of al-Sadr that the Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, whose representatives are negotiating to try and end the deadlock there -- they -- the concern is that they will if they do take control of the mosque away from the Sadr people that they will lock the mosque and therefore prevent people from going there to pray.
But in the meantime these negotiations are continuing, however painful, however tortured and they still remain the best hope for some sort of peaceful solution to this two-week standoff that's been taking place in Najaf.
Other negotiations, which have gone rather better, are those, which have taken place to secure the release of the threat of the American journalist Micah Garen, the 36-year-old journalist who was taken hostage in Nasiriyah a city in Southern Iraq just over a week ago, together with his translator.
He was taken hostage by a group calling themselves the Martyr's Brigade, who threatened to kill him unless U.S. forces withdrew from Najaf.
But a representative of al-Sadr was involved in the negotiation to release him, and on his release he gave an interview, Mr. Garen gave an interview, to Al-Jazeera television where he thanked all of those who'd taken part in that negotiation, and in particular he expressed his gratitude to representatives of al-Sadr.
He said that he was well treated whilst in captivity and indeed the U.S. Embassy here in Baghdad had conducted a medical check of him and he appears to be in good health. He also says that he, despite his ordeal, will continue to work in Iraq and that he will continue to report stories and investigate stories here in Iraq.
In fact he was working on a story which was looking at the problems surrounding archaeological sites and antiquities in the ongoing war. He says the ordeal has not deterred him -- Bill.
HEMMER: And the fact that he is staying there has stunned a lot of people. I know in this city, here in New York, when the news of his release hit over the weekend. Thanks Diana. Diana Muriel in Baghdad -- Daryn.
KAGAN: To Oslo now -- police have located the getaway car used in the heist of Edvard Munch's "The Scream," but they still have very few clues in the crime.
Colleen McEdwards has the latest.
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COLLEEN MCEDWARDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It happened in broad daylight. Two well-known paintings from Oslo's Munch Museum were simply marched out the door, taking guards and patrons by surprise.
UNIDENTIFIED MUSEUM SPOKESPERSON: Persons with hoods on their heads -- they were disguised and with weapons -- rushed into the museum and they knew exactly where these paintings were so they went directly up to them, took them down from the wall and run out as the alarm came on and they threatened the guards with guns. MCEDWARDS: The paintings were worth millions of dollars.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A man coming forward with a black guard over his mouth and nose and black pants but a gray sweatshirt. So we weren't sure what to think of him and he came -- he kind of paused at the back and then he came rushing forward and he went towards the "Madonna" painting and he grabbed it off the wall and he kind of -- he started banging it against the wall and against the ground I guess because of the gray strings weren't breaking off for him.
And then he kind of looked confused as to what to do next and he then saw "The Scream" and ran towards that and grabbed that off the wall and then he started rushing out the front and he started rushing out the back.
MCEDWARDS: The picture frames were later found in another part of the city -- the canvases cut out. Investigators are still looking for more clues.
Edvard Munch, who lived from 1863 to 1944, painted four versions of "The Scream." A founder of modern expressionism, he painted both "The Scream" and "Madonna" as part of a series about love, fear, and death. The best-known version of "The Scream" was stolen in 1994 and later recovered. It now hangs in the Oslo National Gallery.
Colleen McEdwards, CNN, Atlanta.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
HEMMER: Much more on this as we go throughout the week.
In the meantime, want to shift our focus right now to a dark chapter in American history, brought to light today with an official grand opening of the Underground Railroad freedom center located in Cincinnati, Ohio right along the banks of the Ohio River.
The center's chairman is the honorable Nathaniel Jones. He's my guest now from Cincinnati, and Judge Jones, nice to have you here and good morning to you.
NATHANIEL JONES, NAT'L UNDERGROUND RAILROAD CENTER: Good morning, glad to be with you.
HEMMER: I think the first question, maybe the obvious question for viewers across the country watching this -- why Cincinnati? For a museum of this type?
JONES: Cincinnati is the -- is the ideal location for the dedication of a mission to highlight the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center and the efforts of Americans to free slaves who made their major crossings along the border of the Ohio River.
The river was viewed by slaves and by abolitionists and the freedom conductors as River Jordan and they knew if they could get across the Ohio River into Ohio, they would have escaped slavery and they could move on up the road toward Canada and achieve and solidify their free status.
HEMMER: I can remember as a very young school child there in Cincinnati being taught those very lessons. Cincinnati represented freedom for all slaves, man, woman or family trying to remove the shackles of their own captivity from the South.
But I also understand the museum is not just dedicated to that era of American history but also encompasses really the struggle for freedom for all people all over the world.
What will visitors see inside the building?
JONES: Visitors will see the -- of course the involvement of the activities to eliminate slavery. They'll see the cooperation that existed between diverse groups. And from that history they will have a significant take away.
They'll be able to apply the lessons of that period, the lessons of history to the solution of problems across the spectrum today. Not just issues of race, but issues of gender, issues of ethnicity. All of the crises that we see in the world today, not just in this country but across the world. There are groups struggling, there are individuals struggling to be free from the serfdom and the caste systems and the oppression that seems to be a plague on so many elements of the world's population.
The lessons of this experience we have here can be a model to groups who are struggling whether they are in Africa, whether they are in Asia, whether they are in south America, no matter where they are. This is the great gift that they underground railroad freedom movement is making to the contemporary world.
HEMMER: It has not been without controversy. African-Americans in the city of Cincinnati some of them have protested this museum. What is their issue, Judge?
JONES: Well, I wish I could say I knew. As a lawyer and a judge, I believe in establishing remedies for the solutions to problems. We in this country have gone -- come a long way in using the legal system to challenge and to reform the institutions that were so severely distorted by the institution of slavery.
And we have remedies available now through the political process or through the legal process to challenge the lingering effects of that discrimination. There are some of those persons who do not choose to use those processes and they continue to challenge the method that is being offered by the Freedom Center to bring about a change in the status quo.
My appeal to all those who are embittered and who are frustrated is to use the remedies that were fashioned and sharpened during the period of the civil rights struggle -- the right to vote, the voting Rights Act of 1965, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. King and the NAACP and our illustrious leaders gave their lives to bring about -- those remedies are available and they must be used. The power of the ballot must be exercised to bring about a change in the political system to the extent that the system is then responsive. They must participate in it and see to it that persons are elected who do reflect the spirit that is contained in the laws that were enacted by virtue of the sit ins and the demonstrations that were so -- so severely jarred this country during the period of the '60s.
HEMMER: You've given us a lot to think about. Thank you, Judge.
JONES: Thank you very much, Bill.
HEMMER: Judge Jones there in Cincinnati, Ohio. Good luck today and we'll see you later tonight in fact.
JONES: Thank you. Good to be with you.
KAGAN: In fact, you're going to be MC'ing the opening ceremonies there?
HEMMER: I will have a small role back in my hometown.
KAGAN: In your hometown.
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HEMMER: In a moment here on AMERICAN MORNING, Daryn, just what you've been looking for.
You can get rid of your headache and have minty-fresh breath at the same time. There's a new product out there too. Andy's "Minding Your Business" back in a moment with that.
KAGAN: Was that a hint-hint about the breath? OK?
HEMMER: No.
KAGAN: Also we are "Paging Dr. Gupta" -- you exercise and you eat right but is it enough for a longer life? The secrets to living to 100 ahead on AMERICAN MORNING.
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KAGAN: New research suggests that a long life is no accident. So what's the secret? The cover story of this week's "TIME" magazine sheds some light on how to live to be 100.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta joins us from the CNN Center with details on that. Good morning.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SR. MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning Daryn. You know everyone is fascinated; it seems, with people who make it to the three-digit mark.
Scientists, researchers, people trying to figure out how do they live so long? And what they need to do first of all is go to those places where people live longer in general -- some of the places around the world where people tend to be more likely to live to 100.
Okinawa, Japan, for example. Four hundred of its 1.3 million inhabitants now living over the age of 100. Nova Scotia, Sardinia, the Russian Caucasus as well. Also take a look at the life expectancy rates in different parts of the world.
Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan. Those are the best: 81. Canada is 80 -- pretty good. France 79. The USA 77. China 72. Botswana the average lifespan right now is 30. Daryn that's mainly due to infectious diseases such as AIDS.
The "TIME" magazine journalists researchers tried to figure out what was it about these people who live longer. First of all breaking it down by personality traits.
What they found interesting and these are people who again are centenarians. They tend to be strong but flexible. Meaning that they're strong personalities but they don't have the explosive heat of people who are strong type A personalities.
They tend to be dominant, they're used to getting what they want, and they like having it their way.
Also suspiciousness. They tend not to expect -- to sort of accept things sort of at the superficial level. They tend to dig a little bit deeper. The practical, not idealistic and tend to be more relaxed in general.
Also, Daryn the centenarians in general -- not all of them -- but tended to have good strong relationships with people who are at least a generation younger than them. The point that the researchers here said that where they actually had a sort of window to a younger generation and that kept them more youthful as well, Daryn.
KAGAN: But how much do genetics play into it?
GUPTA: Yes, you know genetics versus sort of lifestyle. That was a tough question for them to answer. A couple of numbers to throw at you. First of all if you are the brother of a centenarian you're 17 times more likely to become a centenarian yourself. If you're the sister of a centenarian 8.5 times. So that would make a strong argument for genetics.
But they also found identical twins who were separated literally at birth trying to figure out if one lived to 100 how likely was the other person to live to 100 and they found after studying all that that it was about 20 to 30 percent a roll, that is to say 20-30 percent a roll overall.
Much more common is going to be lifestyle changes. There's been a lot of studies on this. They look at the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, in the United States. Clean living people, they tend to not smoke at all really -- they don't drink, they don't use tobacco.
And on average here in the United States they live eight years longer. Lifestyle is going to get a bigger, sort of dominate role in this Daryn.
KAGAN: All right. Dr. Sanjay Gupta thank you. We'll see you later in the morning.
GUPTA: All right, see you.
KAGAN: Still to come, how do you make a painkiller hit? One company thinks it has the answer. Andy Serwer is "Minding Your Business." Stay with us on AMERICAN MORNING.
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HEMMER: All right everybody. Welcome back to Jack.
JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: We're going to get a preview of the markets now and a cool new twist on pain relief with Andy Serwer who gets more vacation time than anyone in the Time-Warner empire. He's been gone for months. Welcome back.
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Thank you, Jack.
CAFFERTY: How much time do you get...
SERWER: I know what you did this summer, but I'm not going to tell -- you know, there are children watching. I'm not going to tell. Anyway, I had a good time. Thank you. Thank you for that, Jack.
Selling medication both over the counter and non-prescription and prescription for that matter is more and more about marketing. You've seen these new Viagra ads and Celebrex ads. Now get this: Johnson & Johnson is rolling out new Cool Caplets Tylenol. These are mint flavored Tylenol -- there's regular Tylenol and "The New York Times" has been reporting about that's it -- that's the new Cool Caplets.
This is a product that Bill Hemmer's got to love because Bill, our viewers may not know this, is seemingly addicted to those little breath mints. He likes to pass them out. And sometimes Bill might be getting headaches because he has to deal with people like myself and Jack. Not you, Daryn.
So those are some of the...
KAGAN: The thing about Bill, he brings enough for the whole class.
SERWER: He shares?
KAGAN: Yes, he does.
SERWER: So now if you get a headache, you can take some of these, cure the headache. These are also from your desk as well. You really like these things. Anyway, so Johnson & Johnson, which makes these things, had some models outside Manhattan passing these things out. We have tape of that?
There we got. These are kind of strange outfits. See that. Yes. There we go. Those are...
CAFFERTY: Most guys will take anything from something like that in Times Square. Whatever they're handing out I'll have some.
SERWER: Right, yes. Well, I don't know if it's going to work but anyway so consumer groups are concerned that it's mixing fun with medicine and all of that kind of stuff but anyway.
CAFFERTY: What about Wal-Mart?
SERWER: Oh, Wal-Mart. Let's talk about the markets. Let's do a recap of last week. Last week was a good week for the markets. I think there was a little bit of bargain hunting going on. You can see there. Up 284 points on the Dow. Nasdaq still got a ways to go to get back to that 2000 mark, right Bill?
This morning futures are modestly higher, Jack, because of oil prices. However, Wal-Mart is saying raining on the parade a little bit saying sales are not looking so great for August back to school looks a little weak and the hurricane they had to shut down 75 stores in Florida.
CAFFERTY: All right. Thanks, Andy.
On to "The Cafferty Files." The Supreme Court in Brazil has dropped obscenity charges against an avant guard theatre director who mooned the audience after an opera performance last year. Gerald Thomas (ph) shocked audience members by dropping trou after they booed and jeered his performance at the curtain call.
Supreme Court said his gesture was rude and in bad taste but it wasn't against the law.
Sonja Thomas, who weighs a scant 105 pounds, and is no relation to the mooning theatre director Gerald Thomas, won herself $500 and a trophy over the weekend for eating 38 lobsters in 12 minutes. That would be 9.76 pounds of lobster meat. She's a mere 105. She says she can eat more because she has unique stomach capacities.
This woman who also holds the record for eating hard boiled eggs and had just come off a baked beans victory in Indiana where she ate 8 1/2 pounds of beans with pork in two minutes and 47 seconds which presumably made the trip to Kennebunkport interesting.
SERWER: Freakish is the word.
CAFFERTY: This is not a picture of a bald eagle with toenail polish wearing an ankle bracelet. These are Gail Devers hands just before she took off in the 100-meter dash at the Olympics in Athens on Friday.
Check out that manicure. She lost in the 100 meters. On Saturday she pulled up lame after the first hurdle grabbing her left leg so she was eliminated from that competition. However, as far as we know she has not chipped a nail through all of this.
KAGAN: Thank goodness.
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SERWER: She scratched herself, however, when she grabbed her thigh there. It looked that way. You wouldn't want to grab a thigh with those nails. That might hurt don't you think?
I mean if she grabbed your thigh.
CAFFERTY: Don't even go there.
HEMMER: How do you feel being back? Did you miss us at all? Or...
SERWER: Did I miss you? You know...
HEMMER: It's been 2003 since we've seen each other.
SERWER: Well you know it feels like a month.
CAFFERTY: Really that's how long you were gone I think, a month, I think.
SERWER: I'm glad you're keeping track. You know that shows you care. It really does.
CAFFERTY: I mean it's easy for the people at CNN to see that you're not here but do the people at "Fortune" magazine know how much time off you take?
SERWER: I just shut the door.
CAFFERTY: Because they don't know if you're there or not. You could be doing a story or something. You're just gone.
SERWER: E-mail, I phone in, they have no idea. Now they know.
HEMMER: Welcome back.
SERWER: Well, thank you.
HEMMER: Let's get a break here. In a moment, a radical proposal for intelligence reform. Is it time to dump the CIA? Back to that story top of the hour here on AMERICAN MORNING.
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Aired August 23, 2004 - 08:29 ET
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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everyone. Daryn Kagan with us here in New York City today. Good morning, Daryn.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, Bill. It's good to be here with you on this Monday morning.
HEMMER: Have you given me enough grief yet?
KAGAN: No! We're only halfway done with the show.
HEMMER: We are.
In a moment here, we're going to go back to Iraq. And all the talking has done nothing right now to stop a bloodshed in Najaf. More fighting again today. We'll look at what's happening at this hour. Live to Baghdad for that in a moment.
KAGAN: Also, few works of art are more well known that "The Scream." Right now, though, no one knows where this famous painting is -- well, maybe a couple of thieves do. We're going to look into the investigation into this brazen robbery at the Munch Museum in Oslo, Norway.
HEMMER: Apparently some of the people there on hand just were stunned to see it carried out in front of them with all the security detail in that museum, literally not stopping it. So...
KAGAN: Really not enough.
HEMMER: You're right about that.
In a moment here, do you think exercise is the best way to live to be 100? If so, Sanjay's here with us -- tells us what steps you need to take if you want a shot at the century mark. So, we'll give you that.
KAGAN: We'll do that. Right now, let's check in with Carol Costello -- she is at CNN Center in Atlanta with a look at what is happening now in the news. Good morning.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, Daryn. Thank you.
The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee has announced a new proposal to reorganize the intelligence gathering operation.
Senator Pat Roberts says he wants to break up the CIA and divide its responsibilities among three new agencies. It's considered the most sweeping reorganization proposal by anyone outside of the 9/11 Commission. A reaction from the Pentagon with CNN's Barbara Starr in the next half hour.
Israeli officials are announcing plans to build hundreds of new housing units in the West Bank. U.S. officials have suggested they would not object to continued Israeli construction, but Palestinian officials are warning that such a policy shift would wreck Mideast peace efforts.
Many schools and colleges in Bangladesh are closed today as the nation braces for the potential of more demonstrations. Protesters went on a rampage yesterday and at least 50 people were injured in clashes across the country.
The protests followed a grenade attack Saturday at a rally being addressed by the opposition party leader, killing at least 17 people and injuring 150.
And the city of Chicago says it will not decide until noon today whether the Cubs can play tonight's game at Wrigley Field. Pieces of concrete have fallen from the 90-year-old stadium's upper deck three times since June. Nylon netting has been put up for the time being. A complete repair job is expected when the baseball season ends -- Bill.
HEMMER: Yes, they're going to get that fixed; you know it. Wrigley? The venerable baseball park. Thank you Carol.
U.S. forces and Shiite militants have been engaging in fierce battles this morning in Najaf near that mosque -- reports again of causalities.
Diana Muriel has been working that story in Baghdad now. Good afternoon there, Diana.
DIANA MURIEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Bill. Yes, indeed, another bombardment overnight Sunday night into the early hours of Monday morning. At the shrine of Ali Imam in Najaf.
There have been reports of serious damage and indeed the crew on the ground; the CNN crew on the ground, has seen a two-foot breach in the outer wall of the compound that surrounds -- this wall that surrounds the shrine of Imam Ali.
This is a quite a serious amount of damage that's been sustained there -- but the fighting is ongoing. Not as intense as it was seen overnight but nonetheless ongoing.
That is, negotiations to try and end the impasse between supporters of Muqtada al-Sadr and the U.S. forces and the Iraqi government on the other side as appears to have stalled.
We hear from our team on the ground the concerns have been expressed by representatives of al-Sadr that the Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, whose representatives are negotiating to try and end the deadlock there -- they -- the concern is that they will if they do take control of the mosque away from the Sadr people that they will lock the mosque and therefore prevent people from going there to pray.
But in the meantime these negotiations are continuing, however painful, however tortured and they still remain the best hope for some sort of peaceful solution to this two-week standoff that's been taking place in Najaf.
Other negotiations, which have gone rather better, are those, which have taken place to secure the release of the threat of the American journalist Micah Garen, the 36-year-old journalist who was taken hostage in Nasiriyah a city in Southern Iraq just over a week ago, together with his translator.
He was taken hostage by a group calling themselves the Martyr's Brigade, who threatened to kill him unless U.S. forces withdrew from Najaf.
But a representative of al-Sadr was involved in the negotiation to release him, and on his release he gave an interview, Mr. Garen gave an interview, to Al-Jazeera television where he thanked all of those who'd taken part in that negotiation, and in particular he expressed his gratitude to representatives of al-Sadr.
He said that he was well treated whilst in captivity and indeed the U.S. Embassy here in Baghdad had conducted a medical check of him and he appears to be in good health. He also says that he, despite his ordeal, will continue to work in Iraq and that he will continue to report stories and investigate stories here in Iraq.
In fact he was working on a story which was looking at the problems surrounding archaeological sites and antiquities in the ongoing war. He says the ordeal has not deterred him -- Bill.
HEMMER: And the fact that he is staying there has stunned a lot of people. I know in this city, here in New York, when the news of his release hit over the weekend. Thanks Diana. Diana Muriel in Baghdad -- Daryn.
KAGAN: To Oslo now -- police have located the getaway car used in the heist of Edvard Munch's "The Scream," but they still have very few clues in the crime.
Colleen McEdwards has the latest.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
COLLEEN MCEDWARDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It happened in broad daylight. Two well-known paintings from Oslo's Munch Museum were simply marched out the door, taking guards and patrons by surprise.
UNIDENTIFIED MUSEUM SPOKESPERSON: Persons with hoods on their heads -- they were disguised and with weapons -- rushed into the museum and they knew exactly where these paintings were so they went directly up to them, took them down from the wall and run out as the alarm came on and they threatened the guards with guns. MCEDWARDS: The paintings were worth millions of dollars.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A man coming forward with a black guard over his mouth and nose and black pants but a gray sweatshirt. So we weren't sure what to think of him and he came -- he kind of paused at the back and then he came rushing forward and he went towards the "Madonna" painting and he grabbed it off the wall and he kind of -- he started banging it against the wall and against the ground I guess because of the gray strings weren't breaking off for him.
And then he kind of looked confused as to what to do next and he then saw "The Scream" and ran towards that and grabbed that off the wall and then he started rushing out the front and he started rushing out the back.
MCEDWARDS: The picture frames were later found in another part of the city -- the canvases cut out. Investigators are still looking for more clues.
Edvard Munch, who lived from 1863 to 1944, painted four versions of "The Scream." A founder of modern expressionism, he painted both "The Scream" and "Madonna" as part of a series about love, fear, and death. The best-known version of "The Scream" was stolen in 1994 and later recovered. It now hangs in the Oslo National Gallery.
Colleen McEdwards, CNN, Atlanta.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
HEMMER: Much more on this as we go throughout the week.
In the meantime, want to shift our focus right now to a dark chapter in American history, brought to light today with an official grand opening of the Underground Railroad freedom center located in Cincinnati, Ohio right along the banks of the Ohio River.
The center's chairman is the honorable Nathaniel Jones. He's my guest now from Cincinnati, and Judge Jones, nice to have you here and good morning to you.
NATHANIEL JONES, NAT'L UNDERGROUND RAILROAD CENTER: Good morning, glad to be with you.
HEMMER: I think the first question, maybe the obvious question for viewers across the country watching this -- why Cincinnati? For a museum of this type?
JONES: Cincinnati is the -- is the ideal location for the dedication of a mission to highlight the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center and the efforts of Americans to free slaves who made their major crossings along the border of the Ohio River.
The river was viewed by slaves and by abolitionists and the freedom conductors as River Jordan and they knew if they could get across the Ohio River into Ohio, they would have escaped slavery and they could move on up the road toward Canada and achieve and solidify their free status.
HEMMER: I can remember as a very young school child there in Cincinnati being taught those very lessons. Cincinnati represented freedom for all slaves, man, woman or family trying to remove the shackles of their own captivity from the South.
But I also understand the museum is not just dedicated to that era of American history but also encompasses really the struggle for freedom for all people all over the world.
What will visitors see inside the building?
JONES: Visitors will see the -- of course the involvement of the activities to eliminate slavery. They'll see the cooperation that existed between diverse groups. And from that history they will have a significant take away.
They'll be able to apply the lessons of that period, the lessons of history to the solution of problems across the spectrum today. Not just issues of race, but issues of gender, issues of ethnicity. All of the crises that we see in the world today, not just in this country but across the world. There are groups struggling, there are individuals struggling to be free from the serfdom and the caste systems and the oppression that seems to be a plague on so many elements of the world's population.
The lessons of this experience we have here can be a model to groups who are struggling whether they are in Africa, whether they are in Asia, whether they are in south America, no matter where they are. This is the great gift that they underground railroad freedom movement is making to the contemporary world.
HEMMER: It has not been without controversy. African-Americans in the city of Cincinnati some of them have protested this museum. What is their issue, Judge?
JONES: Well, I wish I could say I knew. As a lawyer and a judge, I believe in establishing remedies for the solutions to problems. We in this country have gone -- come a long way in using the legal system to challenge and to reform the institutions that were so severely distorted by the institution of slavery.
And we have remedies available now through the political process or through the legal process to challenge the lingering effects of that discrimination. There are some of those persons who do not choose to use those processes and they continue to challenge the method that is being offered by the Freedom Center to bring about a change in the status quo.
My appeal to all those who are embittered and who are frustrated is to use the remedies that were fashioned and sharpened during the period of the civil rights struggle -- the right to vote, the voting Rights Act of 1965, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. King and the NAACP and our illustrious leaders gave their lives to bring about -- those remedies are available and they must be used. The power of the ballot must be exercised to bring about a change in the political system to the extent that the system is then responsive. They must participate in it and see to it that persons are elected who do reflect the spirit that is contained in the laws that were enacted by virtue of the sit ins and the demonstrations that were so -- so severely jarred this country during the period of the '60s.
HEMMER: You've given us a lot to think about. Thank you, Judge.
JONES: Thank you very much, Bill.
HEMMER: Judge Jones there in Cincinnati, Ohio. Good luck today and we'll see you later tonight in fact.
JONES: Thank you. Good to be with you.
KAGAN: In fact, you're going to be MC'ing the opening ceremonies there?
HEMMER: I will have a small role back in my hometown.
KAGAN: In your hometown.
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HEMMER: In a moment here on AMERICAN MORNING, Daryn, just what you've been looking for.
You can get rid of your headache and have minty-fresh breath at the same time. There's a new product out there too. Andy's "Minding Your Business" back in a moment with that.
KAGAN: Was that a hint-hint about the breath? OK?
HEMMER: No.
KAGAN: Also we are "Paging Dr. Gupta" -- you exercise and you eat right but is it enough for a longer life? The secrets to living to 100 ahead on AMERICAN MORNING.
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KAGAN: New research suggests that a long life is no accident. So what's the secret? The cover story of this week's "TIME" magazine sheds some light on how to live to be 100.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta joins us from the CNN Center with details on that. Good morning.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SR. MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning Daryn. You know everyone is fascinated; it seems, with people who make it to the three-digit mark.
Scientists, researchers, people trying to figure out how do they live so long? And what they need to do first of all is go to those places where people live longer in general -- some of the places around the world where people tend to be more likely to live to 100.
Okinawa, Japan, for example. Four hundred of its 1.3 million inhabitants now living over the age of 100. Nova Scotia, Sardinia, the Russian Caucasus as well. Also take a look at the life expectancy rates in different parts of the world.
Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan. Those are the best: 81. Canada is 80 -- pretty good. France 79. The USA 77. China 72. Botswana the average lifespan right now is 30. Daryn that's mainly due to infectious diseases such as AIDS.
The "TIME" magazine journalists researchers tried to figure out what was it about these people who live longer. First of all breaking it down by personality traits.
What they found interesting and these are people who again are centenarians. They tend to be strong but flexible. Meaning that they're strong personalities but they don't have the explosive heat of people who are strong type A personalities.
They tend to be dominant, they're used to getting what they want, and they like having it their way.
Also suspiciousness. They tend not to expect -- to sort of accept things sort of at the superficial level. They tend to dig a little bit deeper. The practical, not idealistic and tend to be more relaxed in general.
Also, Daryn the centenarians in general -- not all of them -- but tended to have good strong relationships with people who are at least a generation younger than them. The point that the researchers here said that where they actually had a sort of window to a younger generation and that kept them more youthful as well, Daryn.
KAGAN: But how much do genetics play into it?
GUPTA: Yes, you know genetics versus sort of lifestyle. That was a tough question for them to answer. A couple of numbers to throw at you. First of all if you are the brother of a centenarian you're 17 times more likely to become a centenarian yourself. If you're the sister of a centenarian 8.5 times. So that would make a strong argument for genetics.
But they also found identical twins who were separated literally at birth trying to figure out if one lived to 100 how likely was the other person to live to 100 and they found after studying all that that it was about 20 to 30 percent a roll, that is to say 20-30 percent a roll overall.
Much more common is going to be lifestyle changes. There's been a lot of studies on this. They look at the Seventh Day Adventists, for example, in the United States. Clean living people, they tend to not smoke at all really -- they don't drink, they don't use tobacco.
And on average here in the United States they live eight years longer. Lifestyle is going to get a bigger, sort of dominate role in this Daryn.
KAGAN: All right. Dr. Sanjay Gupta thank you. We'll see you later in the morning.
GUPTA: All right, see you.
KAGAN: Still to come, how do you make a painkiller hit? One company thinks it has the answer. Andy Serwer is "Minding Your Business." Stay with us on AMERICAN MORNING.
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HEMMER: All right everybody. Welcome back to Jack.
JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: We're going to get a preview of the markets now and a cool new twist on pain relief with Andy Serwer who gets more vacation time than anyone in the Time-Warner empire. He's been gone for months. Welcome back.
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Thank you, Jack.
CAFFERTY: How much time do you get...
SERWER: I know what you did this summer, but I'm not going to tell -- you know, there are children watching. I'm not going to tell. Anyway, I had a good time. Thank you. Thank you for that, Jack.
Selling medication both over the counter and non-prescription and prescription for that matter is more and more about marketing. You've seen these new Viagra ads and Celebrex ads. Now get this: Johnson & Johnson is rolling out new Cool Caplets Tylenol. These are mint flavored Tylenol -- there's regular Tylenol and "The New York Times" has been reporting about that's it -- that's the new Cool Caplets.
This is a product that Bill Hemmer's got to love because Bill, our viewers may not know this, is seemingly addicted to those little breath mints. He likes to pass them out. And sometimes Bill might be getting headaches because he has to deal with people like myself and Jack. Not you, Daryn.
So those are some of the...
KAGAN: The thing about Bill, he brings enough for the whole class.
SERWER: He shares?
KAGAN: Yes, he does.
SERWER: So now if you get a headache, you can take some of these, cure the headache. These are also from your desk as well. You really like these things. Anyway, so Johnson & Johnson, which makes these things, had some models outside Manhattan passing these things out. We have tape of that?
There we got. These are kind of strange outfits. See that. Yes. There we go. Those are...
CAFFERTY: Most guys will take anything from something like that in Times Square. Whatever they're handing out I'll have some.
SERWER: Right, yes. Well, I don't know if it's going to work but anyway so consumer groups are concerned that it's mixing fun with medicine and all of that kind of stuff but anyway.
CAFFERTY: What about Wal-Mart?
SERWER: Oh, Wal-Mart. Let's talk about the markets. Let's do a recap of last week. Last week was a good week for the markets. I think there was a little bit of bargain hunting going on. You can see there. Up 284 points on the Dow. Nasdaq still got a ways to go to get back to that 2000 mark, right Bill?
This morning futures are modestly higher, Jack, because of oil prices. However, Wal-Mart is saying raining on the parade a little bit saying sales are not looking so great for August back to school looks a little weak and the hurricane they had to shut down 75 stores in Florida.
CAFFERTY: All right. Thanks, Andy.
On to "The Cafferty Files." The Supreme Court in Brazil has dropped obscenity charges against an avant guard theatre director who mooned the audience after an opera performance last year. Gerald Thomas (ph) shocked audience members by dropping trou after they booed and jeered his performance at the curtain call.
Supreme Court said his gesture was rude and in bad taste but it wasn't against the law.
Sonja Thomas, who weighs a scant 105 pounds, and is no relation to the mooning theatre director Gerald Thomas, won herself $500 and a trophy over the weekend for eating 38 lobsters in 12 minutes. That would be 9.76 pounds of lobster meat. She's a mere 105. She says she can eat more because she has unique stomach capacities.
This woman who also holds the record for eating hard boiled eggs and had just come off a baked beans victory in Indiana where she ate 8 1/2 pounds of beans with pork in two minutes and 47 seconds which presumably made the trip to Kennebunkport interesting.
SERWER: Freakish is the word.
CAFFERTY: This is not a picture of a bald eagle with toenail polish wearing an ankle bracelet. These are Gail Devers hands just before she took off in the 100-meter dash at the Olympics in Athens on Friday.
Check out that manicure. She lost in the 100 meters. On Saturday she pulled up lame after the first hurdle grabbing her left leg so she was eliminated from that competition. However, as far as we know she has not chipped a nail through all of this.
KAGAN: Thank goodness.
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SERWER: She scratched herself, however, when she grabbed her thigh there. It looked that way. You wouldn't want to grab a thigh with those nails. That might hurt don't you think?
I mean if she grabbed your thigh.
CAFFERTY: Don't even go there.
HEMMER: How do you feel being back? Did you miss us at all? Or...
SERWER: Did I miss you? You know...
HEMMER: It's been 2003 since we've seen each other.
SERWER: Well you know it feels like a month.
CAFFERTY: Really that's how long you were gone I think, a month, I think.
SERWER: I'm glad you're keeping track. You know that shows you care. It really does.
CAFFERTY: I mean it's easy for the people at CNN to see that you're not here but do the people at "Fortune" magazine know how much time off you take?
SERWER: I just shut the door.
CAFFERTY: Because they don't know if you're there or not. You could be doing a story or something. You're just gone.
SERWER: E-mail, I phone in, they have no idea. Now they know.
HEMMER: Welcome back.
SERWER: Well, thank you.
HEMMER: Let's get a break here. In a moment, a radical proposal for intelligence reform. Is it time to dump the CIA? Back to that story top of the hour here on AMERICAN MORNING.
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