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Vulcano Warning For Mt. St. Helens; Bush, Kerry Set To Debate Tomorrow Night, Mark Geragos Finishes Crossexamination of Lead Detective In Peterson Trial

Aired September 29, 2004 - 19:00   ET

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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from New York. I'm Anderson Cooper.
Waiting and watching Mount St. Helens, the ominous signs that have scientists on alert.

360 starts now.

Mount St. Helens, ready and rumbling. Scientists issue a warning. Is the mountain really about to blow?

Ready for a prime time duel, how both candidates are preparing tonight for the most-anticipated presidential debate in decades.

Mark Geragos finishes grilling the top cop in the Scott Peterson case. But did he really make jurors doubt the detective's methods and his motives?

Martha Stewart gets a cell. The Department of Justice tells her what prison she'll be sent to. We'll tell you what the conditions are like in her new Big House.

And does the guy you like really like you back? A new book from the "Sex in the City" experts tells women to wake up, because in truth, he's just not that into you.

ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COOPER: Good evening again.

We begin tonight with the possibility of a volcanic eruption. Not on some faraway land, but right here at home. In Washington state, Mount St. Helens is awake. The lava dome from the 8,363-foot volcano appears to be growing.

Geologists have issued a volcano advisory saying there is a heightened possibility of an eruption. The question is when, and how strong would it be?

You'll remember in 1980 when Mount St. Helens erupted, it had the energy equivalent to 27,000 atomic bombs. The ash stretched across states and climbed 15 miles into the air. Dozens of people were killed, and an entire mountainside disappeared.

CNN's Kimberly Osias is at Mount St. Helens right now with the latest.

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KIMBERLY OSIAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She was a sleeping giant until May 18, 1980. That's when Mount St. Helens blew, killing 57 people and destroying 200 homes.

Mike Dukas remembers that day. He's a scientist with the United States Geological Survey. He's been monitoring St. Helens for years, calls the mountain an old friend.

MIKE DUKAS, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SERVICE SCIENTIST: The seismicity taking place at the volcano is still increasing every day.

OSIAS: Today, he's waiting for the thick layer of fog to lift so he can get close to the crater and get results.

DUKAS: This is a CO2 analyzer.

OSIAS: This machine measures carbon dioxide gas. That and sulfur dioxide are emitted if new hot earth moves inside the mountain. That would mean that another volcanic eruption is imminent.

DUKAS: Part of the excitement is the unknown. What are we going to see when we get around the corner?

OSIAS: Earlier in the week, scientists tested but didn't find anything of significance. But last night, the 925-foot dome moved upwards 1.5 inches. And complicating the picture even more, the sheer number of fresh quakes in the last week.

Today, scientists from the University of Washington recorded three to four earthquakes a minute, some measuring 2 or more on the Richter scale. That's the most activity on this mountain in well over a decade.

CYNTHIA GARDNER, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SERVICE SCIENTIST IN CHARGE: We are expecting that either nothing could happen, or we perhaps could have an explosive event. We're looking at something, our best guesstimate is something that's small to moderate.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

OSIAS: Now, what is causing this movement? Scientists still don't know. Fall, typically, rainwater collects at the crater's base. Now, that could be warming up and percolating, and it could be steam that forced the dome up a little bit, or it could be something a little bit more serious. It could be magma that's moving.

Now, Anderson, the results of the helicopter that tested the gases today came back. That is also statistically insignificant, just like Monday.

COOPER: So is, is, are, I mean, are they saying at this point how likely it is that this thing may explode? OSIAS: You know, that is anybody's guess. In terms of an alert level, Anderson, 0 to 4, we are right smack in the middle right now at a 2. So it's watching and waiting.

COOPER: All right. Kimberly Osias, thanks very much.

Mount St. Helens, of course, wrote its name into the modern record books more than 20 years ago with a blast that caused amazing destruction. Take a look.

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COOPER (voice-over): The warning signs were there for weeks prior to the morning of May 18, 1980, a growing lava dome and swarms of earthquakes. At 8:32 that morning, the mountain exploded. More than 1,300 feet of summit vaporized. Debris moving at an estimated 300 miles per hour knocked down gigantic trees as if they were toothpicks, killed millions of fish, birds, and animals, as well as 57 people.

And that was a little one. In 1991, the Philippines, Mount Pinatubo on the island of Lusanne (ph) blew. It was an estimated 10 times larger than Mount St. Helens. Three hundred people were killed, but an estimated 60,000 people were evacuated to safety prior to the blast.

And in 1997, a volcano on the island of Montserrat erupted, forcing the evacuation of the capital, Plymouth. It remains abandoned to this day.

Devastating eruptions go back centuries. In 1883, Krakatoa, a massive mountain in Indonesia, erupted with a blast so loud it was heard 3,000 miles away. It generated tidal waves 10 stories high and killed an estimated 32,000 people.

One of the most famous explosions happened nearly 2,000 years ago when Italy's Mount Vesuvius blew, burying nearby towns, including Pompeii. It's been quiet for the last 60 years.

Not all volcanoes are that deadly, of course. Kilauea in Hawaii has been erupting, mostly lava flows, for more than 20 years. It was just a piker compared to Mount Aetna in Italy, which has been going pretty much continuously for 3,500 years.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

Well, monitoring Mount St. Helens right now is Dr. Carl Thornber with the Cascade Volcano Observatory. He is standing (audio interrupt) the mountain.

Thanks very much for being with us, Dr. Thornber.

How concerned are you that an eruption may take place in the next several days?

DR. CARL THORNBER, CASCADE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY: Well, we've issued our -- a volcano advisory at this point, which is one step up from our lower-level alert, which is simply a notice of volcanic unrest. The advisory suggests that an eruption of some sort is likely, but not necessarily imminent.

And at the same time, everything can die down without erupting at all. So we're waiting to see exactly what's going to happen.

COOPER: And why is it, I mean, pardon my ignorance on this, I'm not very good at science, why is it that we sort of don't know more than we do?

THORNBER: Well, simply because, you know, the technology is there, the instruments are there. We're looking at a rather unusual situation. We would have expected, perhaps, something much more dramatic in 1998 when we had a lot of deep earthquakes at six to nine kilometers and magma moving up into this system. And then the system settled down in June-July '98.

At this point in time, all we have are very shallow earthquakes, and no evidence, either from our deformation measurements or from our gas measurements that there's new magma moving up into the volcanic edifice.

So we're looking at a different kind of process. It seems to us that it may not be all hydrothermally generated at this point in time, but perhaps more likely that there's still some residual magma in the system from 1998 (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

COOPER: Let me ask you (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- when you, when you -- 1980, when this erupted, I mean, how much of a surprise was that, and how much, I mean, did you anticipate the size of that eruption?

THORNBER: I don't think the 1980 eruption was a surprise. What was a surprise, in 20-20 hindsight, and obviously, we wouldn't have been monitoring from this point in 1980, and David Johnston wouldn't have died at this point in 1980 if we had presumed that it was going to be a lateral blast, if we had interpreted that it was going to be a lateral blast. We thought it would be blasting upward.

So there were all of the signs months ahead of time that the volcano was going to erupt. It -- in 20-20 hindsight at this point in time tells us that it was going to blast laterally.

So, you know, there's a difference between then and now as well. We're looking at probably a very small event, if we have any event at all.

COOPER: Well, let's certainly hope so. Dr. Carl Thornber, I appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much.

THORNBER: OK, you're welcome. Thank you.

COOPER: As the Pacific Northwest waits with bated breath on a potential Mount St. Helens eruption, let's put this in perspective for a moment. We may not hear about volcanoes that often, but there are actually about 20 volcanoes periodically erupting in the world right now. Between 12 and 15 of those are erupting all the time.

Now, more than 1,500 volcanoes are still classified as active, and that's because they've erupted sometime in the past 10,000 years.

Well, if you were in Washington today, you saw a strange sight over the Pentagon. That's one of the stories happening right now cross-country.

It -- that is not the Goodyear blimp. A 178-foot-long airship developed by the Army hovered over the Pentagon and other capital buildings today as part of a demonstration flight. It is equipped with infrared and optical cameras, which the military says can be used for surveillance to protect U.S. troops.

Near Victoria, Texas, now, off the tracks. A coal train from Wyoming slammed into a parked freight train early this morning, derailed two engines and seven cars. Two crew members were injured. Some of the coal spilled as well.

New York, New York, no betting on the Donald. The gambling Web site has suspended bets on the NBC hit show "The Apprentice" after noticing suspiciously high wagers placed on two of the show's contestants. Now, the site is concerned the names of the winners may have been leaked. It's had similar problems with bets on other reality shows.

That's a quick look at what's going on cross-country tonight.

Coming up next on 360, Martha Stewart doesn't get her prison pick. Find out where she'll be doing some hard time, though how hard can it be in a place they call Camp Cupcake? We're going to talk to a former inmate about what it's really like in Stewart's new digs.

Plus, a wild ride to the edge of the world. Some space cowboys go for a $10 million prize.

And make it, making it or breaking it on national TV. Bush and Kerry down to the final hours before the debate. Will there be any surprises? We'll take a look at that ahead.

First, let's take a look at your picks, the most popular stories right now on CNN.com.

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COOPER: Well, the people of Florida have endured Charley and Frances and Ivan and Jeanne. Now come hurricanes George and John, making landfall in the same place at the same time, Coral Gables tomorrow night.

No question about it, the political wind is picking up.

Candy Crowley is following the doings among the Democrats. We'll get to her in a moment.

But we begin with John King and the president -- John. JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, the president took a glimpse at some of that hurricane damage today, and before leaving Texas, he took a bike ride, and he went fishing, all part of a White House effort to project a president they say is confident and eager for the showdown.

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KING (voice-over): The president broke from debate preparations to survey damage from Hurricane Jeanne, walking through an orange grove hit by three hurricanes this year. He ignored a question about the looming debate, leaving it to aides to suggest the incumbent president is somehow the underdog.

DAN BARTLETT, WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Senator Kerry has been preparing his whole life for this. He is -- he was a prep star debater, he was an Ivy League debater himself, 20 years in the United States Senate.

KING: Iraq is certain to be the major flashpoint. The Bush camp promises to highlight what it calls a history of shifting Kerry positions.

This Bush campaign debate guide mocks the Democrat. "Now you say the war you voted for made us less safe." It goes on to say Senator Kerry's strategy is "Pretend like no position you have ever taken matters. Nobody knows what you really believe anyway."

In Minnesota, Vice President Cheney tested another line of attack, suggesting Senator Kerry is irresponsible to say he favors bringing troops home from Iraq within four years.

DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We clearly want them home, but that's not the way to state the objective. The objective is to finish the mission, to get the job done, to do it right.

KING: Senator Kerry calls Iraq chaos now and wants the debate focused on what he calls Mr. Bush's poor planning.

SUSAN RICE, KERRY FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER: What is his exit strategy for Iraq? How are we going to get out of the mess in Iraq?

KING: Democrats predict a backlash if the president is overly optimistic.

JOHN PODESTA, FORMER CLINTON WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: If he doesn't really come to grips with the reality on the ground in Iraq today, I think he could actually come across as being out of touch.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, John, you say that the Republicans are trying to play up Senator Kerry's debating prowess, but President Bush is no slacker when it comes to debating as well. I mean, he did great in '94 against Ann Richards, people say he's won every debate he's ever been in.

KING: Most people do say that. His worst performance, interestingly, is when he was the incumbent governor of Texas against Democratic challenger Gary Morrow (ph). Mr. Bush easily won reelection in that race, but anyone who's looked at all the tapes say that was his worst defense, worst debate.

He was the incumbent then, as he will be in these three debates beginning tomorrow night. A much higher burden on an incumbent, Anderson, much harder to deflect, which most critics say was Mr. Bush's strategy when he is the challenger. He deflects and he attacks, immediately moves to more favorable ground.

The president knows his record will be in the spotlight all night tomorrow.

COOPER: And we'll be there live on 360 with a very special edition. John King, thanks very much. See you tomorrow.

Now to Candy Crowley and the Kerry campaign.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Kerry campaign sees Thursday night's debate as another chance at a first impression.

SEN. JOHN EDWARDS, DEMOCRATIC VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I've been talking to John every day, and he is in a fighting mood. He is ready for this debate.

CROWLEY: After three days of briefing books, mock debates, and rest at a golf resort in Wisconsin, John Kerry left for Miami with a to-do list. First, create doubt about the president as commander in chief, doubt about his ability to do the job. The admen are all over it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, KERRY-EDWARDS AD)

ANNOUNCER: Maybe George Bush can't tell us why he went to Iraq, but it's time he tells us how he's going to fix it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CROWLEY: Item two, question the president's grip on reality, his truthfulness.

EDWARDS: People keep talking about it being a test for John Kerry. It's a test for George Bush. It's a test for whether this president is finally going to be straight and come clean with the American people about what's happening in Iraq.

CROWLEY: And finally, most importantly for Kerry, item three, undo some of this damage.

SEN. JOHN KERRY, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.

CROWLEY: In an interview with ABC, Kerry took another go at an explanation.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "GOOD MORNING AMERICA," ABC)

KERRY: It just was a very inarticulate way of saying something, and I had one of those inarticulate moments late in the evening when I was dead tired in the primaries, and I didn't say something very clearly.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CROWLEY: As the Bush campaign dutifully notes, it was 1:00 in the afternoon when Kerry made his remarks.

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COOPER: Candy, is the Kerry camp trying to sort of downplay their candidate's debate prowess and play up the debate prowess of President Bush?

CROWLEY: Actually, I was a little bit surprised today to hear Kerry strategists say, We expect our guy to do very well. I will tell you what they are doing, which I find very interesting, which is to concede the style points. They're saying, Look, George Bush is a likable, amiable guy. And then they sort of draw the string from that and say, But, you know, really, what's important are these serious issues.

So they've already kind of conceded the, yes, people are going to be drawn to him. Yes, people are going to like him. But that's not what this is all about. So there are some expectations games going on, it's just not on the who-will-win and who-will-lose angle.

COOPER: Interesting, which I think is a line that Senator Kerry used in a debate against William Weld awhile back in Massachusetts, in that famous series of debates. He sort of said the same kind of thing, like, I may not be able to, you know, sort of speak as well as my opponent, but he obviously has used that line before.

All right, Candy Crowley, thanks very much.

CROWLEY: Thank you.

COOPER: We'll check in with you tomorrow.

As they prepare for tomorrow's debate, each candidate has been reviewing their opponent's past debates, looking for clues, of course, and strategies, strong points and weaknesses.

Last night, we took a look at President Bush's debating record. Tonight, it is Senator Kerry's turn.

Eight years ago, as I just mentioned, Kerry was in a tough fight to keep his Senate seat in Massachusetts, up against a very popular Republican governor. He was behind in the polls. Kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Anyway, midway through the series of the televised debates, Kerry seemed to come alive, and he successfully fended off his challenger. Pulling ahead in the homestretch is a classic move in raw politics.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER (voice-over): During the series of eight senatorial debates in 1996, Senator John Kerry amazed his opponent, then-Governor William Weld, with his ability to deflect criticism.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: No, governor, I tend to look at it from the point of view of a human being thinking about how we can make things work.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: And his art of counterpunching.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

GOV. WILLIAM WELD (R), MASSACHUSETTS: You're the one that voted for the $800 per-person surcharge on Medicare recipients in 1988.

KERRY: Governor, that was for people who were earning more than $100,000, governor.

WELD: No...

KERRY: That's correct.

WELD: ... it was every single person.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WELD: This guy has the speed of a welterweight. He can bob, he can weave, he can move around. It's very hard to land a direct blow on him in a debate.

COOPER: His accuracy defied all expectations.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: It has given us steady growth in this country, 10.5 million jobs, low interest rates, low inflation, low unemployment. We have the smallest government we've had in Washington since Jack Kennedy was president of the United States.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JAMES FALLOWS, "ATLANTIC MONTHLY" CORRESPONDENT: The main model I think people should have in mind as they watch him is a prosecutor in a courtroom, who is trying to grill a witness and is sort of thinking two questions and two answers ahead of the witness. That's when he is at his best. COOPER: And then there was this moment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

WELD: Could you look into the camera or perhaps at Anne Scavina (ph)...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Governor Weld brought in the audience the mother of a murdered police officer to challenge John Kerry's opposition to the death penalty.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

WELD: Tell her why the life of the man that murdered her son is worth more than the life of her son, the police officer.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: This was John Kerry's response.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: It's not worth more. It's not. It's not worth anything. It's scum that ought to be thrown into jail for the rest of its life and that ought to learn day after day the pain and hell of living with a loss of freedom and with the crime committed.

But the fact is, governor, that, yes, I've been opposed to the death penalty. I know something about killing. I don't like killing. And I don't think a state honors life by turning around and sanctioning killing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FALLOWS: He showed a jiu-jitsu-like ability to turn what Weld had thought was his strength back against Weld himself.

COOPER: In Massachusetts, using martial arts in a debate? Now that is raw politics.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: You bet.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: It's going to be a fascinating night tomorrow.

360 next, space cowboys on a wild ride, blasting to the edge of the world for a $10 million prize. Question is, will they make history by making space tourism possible? Also tonight, Martha Stewart's prison. We're going to hear from a former inmate who has been there, hear what life will be like for the multimillion felon.

And a little later, a new Laci Peterson theory, yes, a new one. Details emerge of an eyewitness in the Peterson neighborhood who says he saw a scared pregnant woman yanked into a van. Did police investigate? We'll look at that ahead.

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COOPER: One of America's first astronauts, Allen Shepard, is famously quoted as telling folks on the ground who were dealing with a problem to, quote, well, he said, "Why don't you fix your little problem and light this candle?"

We got a reminder of that spirit today when a test pilot rode a privately financed rocket to the edge of space, despite being told to abort his mission.

Here's CNN space correspondent Miles O'Brien.

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MILES O'BRIEN, CNN SPACE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On a roll, and on the cusp of a head-spinning payday, "Spaceshipone" rocketed straight toward a dip in space once again, the first of two hurdles to capture the $10 million Ansari X-Prize, pilot Mike Melvill offering a breathtaking display of unplanned high-altitude aerobatic flying.

MIKE MELVILL, "SPACESHIPONE" PILOT: It was a fast roll, and it was a spectacular view out of the window, watching the world go around that quickly.

O'BRIEN: Fun, but he still turned the rocket motor off early just in case, but not too early to pass through the boundary of space, 328,000 feet. Radars at nearby Edwards Air Force Base recorded the apex at 337,500. The prize judges concurred.

GREGG MARAYNIAK, X-PRIZE JUDGE: In terms of white smoke or black smoke, the answer is white smoke.

O'BRIEN: Now the team has two weeks to repeat the feat in order to win the prize. Designer and builder Burt Rutan believes he can fly again much sooner. He says there's nothing to fix on the spacecraft. He says the rolls just prove how safe the spaceship really is.

BURT RUTAN, SCALED COMPOSITES: When you end up with a high roll rate and you didn't plan to do it, OK, on a manned spacecraft, that's normally a very, very big deal. I mean, that would be an accident if it happened on the space shuttle or the X-15. No question we would be looking for small pieces now.

O'BRIEN: Instead, they're looking to pick up a big check, and the founder of the X-Prize could not be happier. PETER DIAMANDIS, ANSARI X-PRIZE: Thank you, Mike, for making our dreams come true today. We're one step further towards getting us all into space.

O'BRIEN: Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen funded the $25 million project.

PAUL ALLEN, "SPACESHIPONE" FUNDER: Being halfway to win the X- Prize is fantastic. Now we can do this every, you know, every four or five days, we can do this.

O'BRIEN (on camera): Now the team is motivated to turn "Spaceshipone" around for that second flight, and they'd still like to aim for Monday, October 4. That spectacular roll we saw is not stopping them from rolling on. It may have seemed scary for us, but for folks here in Mojave, it's just another day at the office.

Miles O'Brien, CNN, Mojave, California.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: It's a pretty tough office.

A death sentence for terrorists involved in the U.S.S. "Cole" attack tops our look at what's happening around the world in the uplink.

In Yemen, two men will be put to death. Four others face prison terms up to 10 years for planning the U.S.S. "Cole" suicide bombing four years ago. The attack killed 17 U.S. sailors. One defendant says the sentence is unjust. That's what he called it.

Ledow (ph), Norway, a trouble in flight. A man with an axe attacked a pilot and a passenger. The plane went into a nosedive during the attack. Somehow the pilots managed to level the plane. Three people were injured. Police say the attacker probably carried the axe on board the plane. Hard to believe. The motive is unclear.

In Japan, Typhoon Mary strikes. The streets are flooded due to the heavy rains. Take a look at the winds, gusts up to 67 miles per hour. A tough day there indeed.

Beijing, China, peacekeeping forces now heading for Haiti. This is China's first U.N. mission in the Western Hemisphere. They'll help the hurricane-ravaged country, where more than 1,500 people were killed when Jeanne hit earlier this month. There's also political tension after President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was ousted earlier this year.

And in Rio de Janeiro, beach beatings caught on video. Take a look at this. A gang of about 30 teenagers attacked and robbed tourists sunbathing on Rio's famous La Blum (ph) Beach. Police stepped up security and are looking at the video in hopes of tracking down those involved. Terrible thing.

That is a quick look at what's happening tonight's uplink. Geragos finishes grilling the top cop in the Scott Peterson case, but did he really make jurors doubt the detective's methods and his motives?

Martha Stewart gets a cell. The Department of Justice tells her what prison she'll be sent to. We'll tell you what the conditions are like in her new Big House.

And does the guy you like really like you back? A new book from the "Sex in the City" experts tells women to wake up, because, in truth, he's just not that into you.

360 continues.

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COOPER: Martha Stewart is told what prison she'll go to and a former inmate describes what it's really like on the inside. That's next on 360.

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COOPER: In the next half hour on 360, an inside look at Martha Stewart's new prison home. We'll hear from a former inmate on what she can expect there.

First let's check our top stories in tonight's "Reset."

Washington state: a volcano advisory at Mount St. Helens. Scientists warning the mountain is likely to blow. The lava dome within the crater appears to be moving up and scientists are monitoring the most intense seismic activity there in 20 years. Last eruption, of course, was back in 1980, 57 people were killed in an avalanche of rock and ash. Scientists' best guess is this one will not be nearly as bad if it does erupt.

The fourth hurricane to hit the U.S., whipping up enormous damages. Insurance industries tell CNN, combined insurance damages will exceed $15.5 billion. It's pretty staggering, it's not the worst, certainly. 1992's Hurricane Andrew alone remains the costliest hurricane on record in today's dollars, we're talking $20 billion.

In New York a key part of the Patriot Act was struck down. A federal judge has ruled the provision that allows the FBI to demand company records from businesses without court approval is unconstitutional. The ACLU brought the suit, the government will likely appeal. That's a quick look at "The Reset" tonight.

Our top story, though Martha Stewart has a new home, Alderson, West Virginia, population 1,091, soon to be 92. We suspect Ms. Stewart had to look it up Alderson on a map. It's unlikely she would imagine she would spend time there.

Of course, by October 8th, she'll not be spending time there, she'll be doing time.

CNN's Allan Chernoff has more on the minimum security federal home.

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ALLAN CHERNOFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: From the outside it could pass for a prep school campus, but make no mistake, this is the prison camp Martha Stewart will call home for five months. She must check in no later than a week from Friday. Inside, Stewart will be sharing one of these bunks wearing a khaki uniform. And instead of giving orders, Stewart will have to take them. She'll be working, perhaps cleaning or grounds keeping for 12 cents an hour. Alderson, West Virginia, is not where Martha Stewart had hoped to go.

MARTHA STEWART: I do hope there will be room at Danbury facility which is the prison near toast my home and close enough so that my 90- year-old mother and others can visit me.

CHERNOFF: In a statement Stewart said Wednesday, while I had hoped to be designated to a facility closer to my family and more accessible to my appellate attorneys, I am pleased that the bureau of prisons has designated me so quickly to the federal prison camp, Alderson. Alderson, known as camp cupcake was established as the first prison camp for women. The majority of inmates are drug offender, singer Billie Holiday did time for drugs. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme who tried to kill President Ford escaped from Alderson. Martha Stewart was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to federal agents about a stock sale. She got the minimum sentence five months in prison, five months of home detention, but it will be a huge adjustment for a corporate executive and member of high society.

STEWART: I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid whatsoever.

CHERNOFF: Stewart's attorneys are going ahead with their appeal and expect a hearing in early January, meaning Martha Stewart will still be serving her time as her attorneys try to reverse her conviction.

Allan Chernoff, CNN Financial News, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: My next guest knows a lot about Alderson. Becky Johnson was an inmate for five months for a trespassing conviction. She joins me now from San Francisco.

Thank you very much for being with us, Becky.

In understand, you say the first day for you was really the hardest, why?

BECKY JOHNSON, FORMER ALDERSON INMATE: Absolutely. The first day is the day where you learn about the unknown. The whole experience is unknown and you spend time that first day just going through the motions of learning that you don't have control over your life anymore. You have to have a tuberculosis test. You have your first strip search. All of these are demeaning and scary acts that you have to go through on your first day. COOPER: And once you make it through that first day what then becomes the hardest part?

JOHNSON: Well, honestly, at the end of first day you get your first great surprise which is that the inmates really welcome you with open arms. But after that the hardest issue for the rest of the time is just realizing how little control you have over your life which is part of the punishment, of course.

COOPER: So the other inmates welcome you with open arms?

I mean, that's so different from what I've heard of other prisons where, you know, sort of horrible things happen once you actually get into the general population.

JOHNSON: Well, that may be true in other prisons, but at Alderson, the women who come there are nonviolent offenders, which means they don't have violence in their past. They're not escape risks. And so there's really no danger of physical violence there. What is...

COOPER: I know -- I'm sorry, go ahead.

JOHNSON: Go ahead.

COOPER: I know there have been famous people there in the past, Billie Holiday, Squeaky Fromme was there, how do you think fame makes a prisoner different?

How do you think Martha Stewart will be received?

JOHNSON: Well, honestly, when I was there I was considered one of the protester, one of the famous people who have newspaper articles made about them. And it was just -- it was an anomaly, but people wondered at it as opposed, nobody felt very badly about us. In fact they wanted to know what we did. And I feel like the same thing will happen for Martha Stewart.

COOPER: I mean, are there, you know, you hear in prisons there are drugs, there is sex and there is all sorts of illicit activity going on. I take it at a facility like this, that doesn't occur?

JOHNSON: Well, there must be all of those things going on as well. It's not at the surface, though. Really, the women who are there are non-violent offenders. Most of them would probably be better being sentenced to some other form of service for their sentence. And so really, they form a bond with each other. They're not perfect, of course, they've made mistakes in their life, but they do form a strong bond, trying to make the best out of their situation.

COOPER: What's your best advice for someone like Martha Stewart?

JOHNSON: Well, really, she has to go in there realizing that these women are not evil. If she goes in believing that they are OK women and that she can actually be a part of them, maybe even make friends with them over the time that she's there, I think she'll do a lot better than if she tries to stay to herself.

COOPER: And you were in a what -- it's a bunk bed, very limited privileges, you have to get a minimum wage job?

JOHNSON: Absolutely. Minimum wage at the prison camp is $5.25 a month and we are required to work for 40 hours a week. And the bunk bed area, you stay on a warehouse floor when you first move there in a cubicle area with a bunkmate, of course.

COOPER: All right, Becky Johnson. Well, it's a tough experience and we appreciate you joining us to talk about it.

JOHNSON: No problem. I'm glad to be here.

COOPER: All right. Thanks very much, Becky.

Today's "Buzz" is this.

What do you think? Do you think Martha Stewart will make a successful comeback after prison?

Log on to cnn.com/360. Cast your votes, we'll have results at the end of program tonight.

Up next on 360, the Scott Peterson trial, a new theory on his wife's murder. There have been many from the defense, today yet another one

Today are you calling him when he's not calling you?

Hanging on instead of hanging up?

The truth about men and how to know when he's just not that into you. A new book tells it all. We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Prosecutors say Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife in their home and then of course dumped her body into the bay, but the defense today wanted the jury to know that there were other possibilities from tips they say the police never followed up on and they tried to hammer that home during the final day of cross- examination of the top cop. CNN's Ted Rowlands has the latest from the courtroom.

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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Defense attorney Mark Geragos has finished his cross-examination of Detective Craig Grogan. It has been four days of using Grogan to try to punch holes in the prosecution's case. The defense wants the jury to know that many tips in this case were not investigated by police. Grogan acknowledged that one man told police that near Peterson's neighborhood he saw a scared pregnant woman urinating next to a van a few days after Laci Peterson was reported missing. The tipster told police a suspicious male stood guard with his hands up which Geragos demonstrated in front of the jury. According to the story, the woman was then taken to the van and pulled in by another man. Grogan testified that a number of sightings which Geragos has brought up were not investigated because there were thousands of tips and resources were limited. The judge has allowed Geragos to ask Grogan about these tips and leads whether they were verified or not to allow jurors a sense of the choices that Grogan made during the investigation. But the judge has told jurors not to take the content of these tips as the truth.

DEAN JOHNSON, LEGAL ANALYST: I tend to think that if a juror has heard somewhere that somebody sighted Laci and McKinsey (ph) on a walk they're not going to say, well, that was only admitted for Detective Grogan's state of mind. We have to ignore that.

ROWLANDS: Grogan also testified that while investigators believed Laci Peterson was strangled or suffocated, no physical evidence of that was found in the Petersons' bed or anywhere in the house.

When Mark Geragos announced that he had completed his cross- examination of Detective Grogan, one of the jurors actually did a mock clap in the courtroom. Ted Rowlands, CNN, Redwood City, California.

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COOPER: Covering the trial for us in "Justice Served" from the courthouse, 360 legal analyst Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom and from Miami defense attorney Jayne Weintraub. Good to see both of you. Kimberly, I understand you think the prosecution scored some points with testimony about Peterson's hopes of trying to sell his house furnished. What points do you think they scored?

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE NEWSOM, 360 LEGAL ANALYST: Yes, this came at the end of day, after the juror clapped because thank goodness, the cross-examination was over. It was an issue of about Scott Peterson wanting to sell the house. At the same time he sent an e-mail to Laci's family saying I'm sorry I wasn't straightforward about my infidelity about the affair with Amber. Let's work together, we can do more together than separate. This sounded amazing, what a loving husband. We were like, where is she going with this?

Sure enough, very subtle, the D.A. Burgett Flattiger came in with a bang and said this was at same time that this man was inquiring about selling this house furnished and one of the issues in the e-mail was how he said he said he wanted to keep the lamps. They had asked for some property of Laci's back, these special lamps she liked, photos, memorabilia, et cetera, and he said I'd like to keep the things and the furniture so it can be here when she gets home while at the same time he's making calls to two different realtors to sell the house furnished. It was awful. People in the court were, like, wow. One lady next to me goes, perfect, like that. It was unbelievable.

COOPER: Jayne, I can't see you, but I can imagine you rolling your eyes right now.

JAYNE WEINTRAUB, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I certainly am. That at the end of the day when Mark Geragos has Grogan on the witness stand to admit four significant tips that were ignored on her block, one by a deputy D.A., one by a police officer that was never followed up that he thought he saw a pregnant woman matching the description forced in a van. These aren't maybe crazy people. These are real people in the neighborhood. That's number one but number two, what did Geragos get today that was amazing to me? How about the fact that they discussed, as police officers and district attorneys, whether or not to do an experiment, if the boat would tip with a pregnant woman or not.

In other words, is it possible that he took her on that boat and they decided not to try. You know why? Because if they tried and it failed like they were afraid they would have to disclose that to the defense and it would become part of the record. So they didn't bother to try.

COOPER: Kimberly, how significant do you think that is?

GUILFOYLE NEWSOM: I think it is very significant. I was speaking with sources, shall we say, very close to the defense and they felt that that was a big point. I think it was a big point. But then again we would be criticizing the prosecution if they did do it, because it would have been O.J. Simpson with the glove all over again. Perhaps there were a few lessons that have been learned over the years.

COOPER: Jayne, the defense made a big deal about this burglary that had occurred on the block, but...

WEINTRAUB: The brown van.

COOPER: The brown van and a burglary, but the timeline on that seems somewhat confused because the dog, the Peterson's dog was seen roaming around before the couple ever left, before this burglary allegedly took place.

WEINTRAUB: But that doesn't mean that those people didn't come back. One thing I can tell you, of course, I won't name my sources, but one thing I can tell you from clients is a lot of times people committing burglaries or robberies go back for certain things. They find ways to get into certain places and they go back again.

COOPER: Your clients have told you this?

WEINTRAUB: You know, you'd be amazed at things I know, Anderson. I'll tell you something else about this case. This case is a classic case of the police trying to fit a square peg in a circle and Mark Geragos demonstrated today over and over again, no matter what, they weren't looking for the truth. They were looking at ways to get that in to convict Scott Peterson.

COOPER: I'll have to leave it there. Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom and criminal defense attorney Jayne Weintraub. Thanks very much.

For women it's the no excuse truth to understanding guys, a much lighter note next on 360, a new book based on an episode of "Sex in the City" says, you know what? Truth is, he's just not that into you. We'll talk to the authors coming up next.

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CYNTHIA NIXON, ACTRESS: And he said he'd call.

SARAH JESSICA PARKER, ACTRESS: Two kisses, very promising.

NIXON: You think, even though he didn't come up.

KRISTEN DAVIS, ACTRESS: Definitely. It means he likes you, but he wants to take it slow. That's nice.

NIXON: Berger, what do you think?

RON LIVINGSTON, ACTOR: You really want to know?

NIXON: Please, I would love to have a man's opinion for a change.

LIVINGSTON: All right. I'm not going to sugar coat it for you. He's just not that into you.

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COOPER: Ouch! Miranda in the show "Sex and the City," hearing the very words that countless dating women fear, the real reason he doesn't want to come up, the real reason he doesn't return e-mails, the real reason he doesn't call, he's just not that into you.

That wake-up call for women comes from "Sex and the City" consultant Greg Behrendt and executive story editor Liz Dechula, -- excuse me, Tuccillo. Their new book, "He's Just Not That Into You: The No Excuses Truth To Understanding Guys" has become a best seller. Earlier I spoke to both of them about why otherwise smart women make excuses for uninterested men.

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COOPER: Do women make it easier for guys to sport sort of give excuses?

LIZ TUCCILLO, AUTHOR: Yes. They either let them or they actually give the excuses for them. Sometimes the man doesn't have an excuse.

GREG BEHRENDT, AUTHOR: And they are completely complicit in it. Yes, they definitely make it happen.

COOPER: Why do they do that?

TUCCILLO: I think that they would rather often have the sort of desire for a relationship as opposed to the reality of the relationship. So even when they think it's not really happening, they sort of want to cling on to an excuse. COOPER: That's sad.

BEHRENDT: It is sad. And then it makes men kind of paranoid. And so they decide to fade you out as opposed to tell you it's over, because men are afraid of conflict.

COOPER: All right. Let's talk about the excuses that women sort of give themselves. The maybe he doesn't want to ruin a friendship excuse.

BEHRENDT: No. He doesn't want to ruin the friendship because that's not true. He's not turned on by you. If he was sexually into you, he would love that, because then he would have the friendship and the sex. Basically he's saying we're only ever going to be friends.

COOPER: Bottom line.

BEHRENDT: He's just not into you.

TUCCILLO: He's just not into you.

COOPER: It's terrible.

TUCCILLO: It's so tough. This is going to be rough.

COOPER: It's like a slap in the face.

TUCCILLO: Oh yes. It's a slap in the face.

COOPER: But you think it's a healthy thing.

BEHRENDT: I think it's a really good thing. Because that way you look at the situation of what's actually happening in the situation and then you get to move on. And you don't have to stay in this lousy relationship with a dude who's not honoring you, or into you.

COOPER: All right. Sometimes women say, maybe he's intimidated by me. That's an excuse.

TUCCILLO: We use that a lot in "Sex and the City" because we all have the great jobs, and Greg would say, you'd want to go out with a guy who's intimidated with you?

BEHRENDT: Who wants to go out with a guy who's intimidated? Oh, I'm a weakling. You know what I mean? Like if a guys what's something, and you want a job, you'll get the job. So, if you want a girl, why would you put that kind of effort into it?

COOPER: And you don't think a guy really -- I mean, isn't that a valid excuse. Maybe some guys are intimidated to...

BEHRENDT: Then they don't get to have the good thing. Don't be intimidated. Be the man, step up, risk something. That's the guy you want to be with.

COOPER: Maybe he's just too busy, can't call.

BEHRENDT: That's the weapons of mass destruction.

TUCCILLO: Yes. That's the biggest one, especially in New York.

BEHRENDT: I mean, who isn't busy. Who can't say that? You can't argue with busy, I'm busy. Doing what? I have stuff going on. What kind of stuff? Lots of stuff, business stuff, busy stuff going on. Basically, it's like, no, my foot hurts, I'm seeing somebody else, I'm not into you.

TUCCILLO: It's so rough.

BEHRENDT: And in this day and age, people say he was just too busy to call.

TUCCHILLO: Yes. We'll use that all the time. That's the first one we'll go to for ladies and...

BEHRENDT: That's impossible. Because I wasn't too busy to call my wife. That's how she became my wife. You know what I mean? I'll even call her to tell her I can't call.

Hi. I can't call now. Like when Liz and I were writing the book, we're really busy, but I love you, I'll call tomorrow. You know what I mean? Just let them know. I love her, I respect her and I don't want to hurt her feelings.

COOPER: If they're not calling, they're just not into you.

But a lot of people say, look, but he gave me the number and he told me to call.

BEHRENDT: The magic trick. The magic trick. Hey, David Blaine, how did you do that? Get out of your glass box. How did you flip it so now suddenly you're asking him out. That doesn't make sense.

COOPER: Should a woman call a guy?

TUCCILLO: It's very controversial. Greg has beaten it into my head no and I'm starting to come around, yes. I say no. Even though a liberated woman.

COOPER: No.

TUCCILLO: Because you know what? A guy should ask me out.

BEHRENDT: Yes. Women are worth being asked out. I think that's the best place to start.

COOPER: What about if maybe he wants to take it slow.

BEHRENDT: He wants to slow down to make it stop. Slow it down to a complete halt, how about that?

COOPER: Well, he doesn't want to have sex, he just likes to cuddle a lot.

BEHRENDT: Ooh, who's that guy? You know what I mean.

He's not that into you.

TUCCILLO: Yes. He doesn't want to be in a relationship with you, so this is the closest he'll get.

BEHRENDT: Yes. The relationship part is have we get have sex and stuff. We get to hang out together.

COOPER: It's a brutal wake-up call, but perhaps a healthy wake- up call.

TUCCILLO: People, obviously, the book is doing well so people clearly needed it. They needed to hear it I guess now.

COOPER: Greg and Liz, thanks very much.

BEHRENDT: Thank you, man.

COOPER: Tough crowd.

360 next, it's a bird, it's a plane, but it's not superman, at least not in Sweden where a couple wants to name their son after the superhero, but they're being told no. We're going to take that to the Nth Degree.

Tomorrow, we're live from Miami as President Bush and Senator Kerry square off in their first televised debate. A special edition of 360 tomorrow.

First today's Buzz. "Do you think Martha Stewart will make a successful comeback after prison? Log on to CNN.com/360, cast your vote. Results in a moment.

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COOPER: The Buzz, "Do you think Martha Stewart will make a successful comeback after prison?" Her agent will be thrilled with these results. 89 percent say yes, 11 percent say no. Not a scientific poll, but it is your Buzz. We appreciate you voting.

Tonight, taking freedom of choice to the Nth Degree. Yeah, yeah, Swedes or liberal, tolerant, nonjudgmental, open mined, anything goes in Sweden as long as you don't rub people's faces in what you're doing or make a lot of noise.

And yet, get this. Authorities in that famously live and let live country have denied a husband and wife permission to give their infant son the name of their choice.

The authorities say calling the kid Superman would lead to trouble later in the boy's life. Oh, sure, Superman is much worse than, what? Ingmar? Anyway, is this the government's business? Not in the U.S. of A, thank goodness, we Americans can call our kids any fool thing we want. Groucho, Uncle Sam, Bo Peep, Madonna, Buffalo Bill. It's no one's lookout, but our own, if we want to name the pride and joy, Spiderman, Shaquille, Dr. Phil, Diet Pepsi.

A weird name may cause trouble later in life. I mean, imagine introducing yourself at a cocktail party as Donald Duck Jacoby, but hey, isn't freedom worth a little embarrassment?

I'm Anderson Cooper. Thanks for watching 360. We'll be down in Miami tomorrow night for special coverage of the debates. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

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Waiting and watching Mount St. Helens, the ominous signs that have scientists on alert.

360 starts now.

Mount St. Helens, ready and rumbling. Scientists issue a warning. Is the mountain really about to blow?

Ready for a prime time duel, how both candidates are preparing tonight for the most-anticipated presidential debate in decades.

Mark Geragos finishes grilling the top cop in the Scott Peterson case. But did he really make jurors doubt the detective's methods and his motives?

Martha Stewart gets a cell. The Department of Justice tells her what prison she'll be sent to. We'll tell you what the conditions are like in her new Big House.

And does the guy you like really like you back? A new book from the "Sex in the City" experts tells women to wake up, because in truth, he's just not that into you.

ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COOPER: Good evening again.

We begin tonight with the possibility of a volcanic eruption. Not on some faraway land, but right here at home. In Washington state, Mount St. Helens is awake. The lava dome from the 8,363-foot volcano appears to be growing.

Geologists have issued a volcano advisory saying there is a heightened possibility of an eruption. The question is when, and how strong would it be?

You'll remember in 1980 when Mount St. Helens erupted, it had the energy equivalent to 27,000 atomic bombs. The ash stretched across states and climbed 15 miles into the air. Dozens of people were killed, and an entire mountainside disappeared.

CNN's Kimberly Osias is at Mount St. Helens right now with the latest.

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KIMBERLY OSIAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She was a sleeping giant until May 18, 1980. That's when Mount St. Helens blew, killing 57 people and destroying 200 homes.

Mike Dukas remembers that day. He's a scientist with the United States Geological Survey. He's been monitoring St. Helens for years, calls the mountain an old friend.

MIKE DUKAS, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SERVICE SCIENTIST: The seismicity taking place at the volcano is still increasing every day.

OSIAS: Today, he's waiting for the thick layer of fog to lift so he can get close to the crater and get results.

DUKAS: This is a CO2 analyzer.

OSIAS: This machine measures carbon dioxide gas. That and sulfur dioxide are emitted if new hot earth moves inside the mountain. That would mean that another volcanic eruption is imminent.

DUKAS: Part of the excitement is the unknown. What are we going to see when we get around the corner?

OSIAS: Earlier in the week, scientists tested but didn't find anything of significance. But last night, the 925-foot dome moved upwards 1.5 inches. And complicating the picture even more, the sheer number of fresh quakes in the last week.

Today, scientists from the University of Washington recorded three to four earthquakes a minute, some measuring 2 or more on the Richter scale. That's the most activity on this mountain in well over a decade.

CYNTHIA GARDNER, U.S. GEOLOGICAL SERVICE SCIENTIST IN CHARGE: We are expecting that either nothing could happen, or we perhaps could have an explosive event. We're looking at something, our best guesstimate is something that's small to moderate.

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OSIAS: Now, what is causing this movement? Scientists still don't know. Fall, typically, rainwater collects at the crater's base. Now, that could be warming up and percolating, and it could be steam that forced the dome up a little bit, or it could be something a little bit more serious. It could be magma that's moving.

Now, Anderson, the results of the helicopter that tested the gases today came back. That is also statistically insignificant, just like Monday.

COOPER: So is, is, are, I mean, are they saying at this point how likely it is that this thing may explode? OSIAS: You know, that is anybody's guess. In terms of an alert level, Anderson, 0 to 4, we are right smack in the middle right now at a 2. So it's watching and waiting.

COOPER: All right. Kimberly Osias, thanks very much.

Mount St. Helens, of course, wrote its name into the modern record books more than 20 years ago with a blast that caused amazing destruction. Take a look.

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COOPER (voice-over): The warning signs were there for weeks prior to the morning of May 18, 1980, a growing lava dome and swarms of earthquakes. At 8:32 that morning, the mountain exploded. More than 1,300 feet of summit vaporized. Debris moving at an estimated 300 miles per hour knocked down gigantic trees as if they were toothpicks, killed millions of fish, birds, and animals, as well as 57 people.

And that was a little one. In 1991, the Philippines, Mount Pinatubo on the island of Lusanne (ph) blew. It was an estimated 10 times larger than Mount St. Helens. Three hundred people were killed, but an estimated 60,000 people were evacuated to safety prior to the blast.

And in 1997, a volcano on the island of Montserrat erupted, forcing the evacuation of the capital, Plymouth. It remains abandoned to this day.

Devastating eruptions go back centuries. In 1883, Krakatoa, a massive mountain in Indonesia, erupted with a blast so loud it was heard 3,000 miles away. It generated tidal waves 10 stories high and killed an estimated 32,000 people.

One of the most famous explosions happened nearly 2,000 years ago when Italy's Mount Vesuvius blew, burying nearby towns, including Pompeii. It's been quiet for the last 60 years.

Not all volcanoes are that deadly, of course. Kilauea in Hawaii has been erupting, mostly lava flows, for more than 20 years. It was just a piker compared to Mount Aetna in Italy, which has been going pretty much continuously for 3,500 years.

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Well, monitoring Mount St. Helens right now is Dr. Carl Thornber with the Cascade Volcano Observatory. He is standing (audio interrupt) the mountain.

Thanks very much for being with us, Dr. Thornber.

How concerned are you that an eruption may take place in the next several days?

DR. CARL THORNBER, CASCADE VOLCANO OBSERVATORY: Well, we've issued our -- a volcano advisory at this point, which is one step up from our lower-level alert, which is simply a notice of volcanic unrest. The advisory suggests that an eruption of some sort is likely, but not necessarily imminent.

And at the same time, everything can die down without erupting at all. So we're waiting to see exactly what's going to happen.

COOPER: And why is it, I mean, pardon my ignorance on this, I'm not very good at science, why is it that we sort of don't know more than we do?

THORNBER: Well, simply because, you know, the technology is there, the instruments are there. We're looking at a rather unusual situation. We would have expected, perhaps, something much more dramatic in 1998 when we had a lot of deep earthquakes at six to nine kilometers and magma moving up into this system. And then the system settled down in June-July '98.

At this point in time, all we have are very shallow earthquakes, and no evidence, either from our deformation measurements or from our gas measurements that there's new magma moving up into the volcanic edifice.

So we're looking at a different kind of process. It seems to us that it may not be all hydrothermally generated at this point in time, but perhaps more likely that there's still some residual magma in the system from 1998 (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

COOPER: Let me ask you (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- when you, when you -- 1980, when this erupted, I mean, how much of a surprise was that, and how much, I mean, did you anticipate the size of that eruption?

THORNBER: I don't think the 1980 eruption was a surprise. What was a surprise, in 20-20 hindsight, and obviously, we wouldn't have been monitoring from this point in 1980, and David Johnston wouldn't have died at this point in 1980 if we had presumed that it was going to be a lateral blast, if we had interpreted that it was going to be a lateral blast. We thought it would be blasting upward.

So there were all of the signs months ahead of time that the volcano was going to erupt. It -- in 20-20 hindsight at this point in time tells us that it was going to blast laterally.

So, you know, there's a difference between then and now as well. We're looking at probably a very small event, if we have any event at all.

COOPER: Well, let's certainly hope so. Dr. Carl Thornber, I appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much.

THORNBER: OK, you're welcome. Thank you.

COOPER: As the Pacific Northwest waits with bated breath on a potential Mount St. Helens eruption, let's put this in perspective for a moment. We may not hear about volcanoes that often, but there are actually about 20 volcanoes periodically erupting in the world right now. Between 12 and 15 of those are erupting all the time.

Now, more than 1,500 volcanoes are still classified as active, and that's because they've erupted sometime in the past 10,000 years.

Well, if you were in Washington today, you saw a strange sight over the Pentagon. That's one of the stories happening right now cross-country.

It -- that is not the Goodyear blimp. A 178-foot-long airship developed by the Army hovered over the Pentagon and other capital buildings today as part of a demonstration flight. It is equipped with infrared and optical cameras, which the military says can be used for surveillance to protect U.S. troops.

Near Victoria, Texas, now, off the tracks. A coal train from Wyoming slammed into a parked freight train early this morning, derailed two engines and seven cars. Two crew members were injured. Some of the coal spilled as well.

New York, New York, no betting on the Donald. The gambling Web site has suspended bets on the NBC hit show "The Apprentice" after noticing suspiciously high wagers placed on two of the show's contestants. Now, the site is concerned the names of the winners may have been leaked. It's had similar problems with bets on other reality shows.

That's a quick look at what's going on cross-country tonight.

Coming up next on 360, Martha Stewart doesn't get her prison pick. Find out where she'll be doing some hard time, though how hard can it be in a place they call Camp Cupcake? We're going to talk to a former inmate about what it's really like in Stewart's new digs.

Plus, a wild ride to the edge of the world. Some space cowboys go for a $10 million prize.

And make it, making it or breaking it on national TV. Bush and Kerry down to the final hours before the debate. Will there be any surprises? We'll take a look at that ahead.

First, let's take a look at your picks, the most popular stories right now on CNN.com.

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COOPER: Well, the people of Florida have endured Charley and Frances and Ivan and Jeanne. Now come hurricanes George and John, making landfall in the same place at the same time, Coral Gables tomorrow night.

No question about it, the political wind is picking up.

Candy Crowley is following the doings among the Democrats. We'll get to her in a moment.

But we begin with John King and the president -- John. JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, the president took a glimpse at some of that hurricane damage today, and before leaving Texas, he took a bike ride, and he went fishing, all part of a White House effort to project a president they say is confident and eager for the showdown.

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KING (voice-over): The president broke from debate preparations to survey damage from Hurricane Jeanne, walking through an orange grove hit by three hurricanes this year. He ignored a question about the looming debate, leaving it to aides to suggest the incumbent president is somehow the underdog.

DAN BARTLETT, WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Senator Kerry has been preparing his whole life for this. He is -- he was a prep star debater, he was an Ivy League debater himself, 20 years in the United States Senate.

KING: Iraq is certain to be the major flashpoint. The Bush camp promises to highlight what it calls a history of shifting Kerry positions.

This Bush campaign debate guide mocks the Democrat. "Now you say the war you voted for made us less safe." It goes on to say Senator Kerry's strategy is "Pretend like no position you have ever taken matters. Nobody knows what you really believe anyway."

In Minnesota, Vice President Cheney tested another line of attack, suggesting Senator Kerry is irresponsible to say he favors bringing troops home from Iraq within four years.

DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We clearly want them home, but that's not the way to state the objective. The objective is to finish the mission, to get the job done, to do it right.

KING: Senator Kerry calls Iraq chaos now and wants the debate focused on what he calls Mr. Bush's poor planning.

SUSAN RICE, KERRY FOREIGN POLICY ADVISER: What is his exit strategy for Iraq? How are we going to get out of the mess in Iraq?

KING: Democrats predict a backlash if the president is overly optimistic.

JOHN PODESTA, FORMER CLINTON WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: If he doesn't really come to grips with the reality on the ground in Iraq today, I think he could actually come across as being out of touch.

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COOPER: Well, John, you say that the Republicans are trying to play up Senator Kerry's debating prowess, but President Bush is no slacker when it comes to debating as well. I mean, he did great in '94 against Ann Richards, people say he's won every debate he's ever been in.

KING: Most people do say that. His worst performance, interestingly, is when he was the incumbent governor of Texas against Democratic challenger Gary Morrow (ph). Mr. Bush easily won reelection in that race, but anyone who's looked at all the tapes say that was his worst defense, worst debate.

He was the incumbent then, as he will be in these three debates beginning tomorrow night. A much higher burden on an incumbent, Anderson, much harder to deflect, which most critics say was Mr. Bush's strategy when he is the challenger. He deflects and he attacks, immediately moves to more favorable ground.

The president knows his record will be in the spotlight all night tomorrow.

COOPER: And we'll be there live on 360 with a very special edition. John King, thanks very much. See you tomorrow.

Now to Candy Crowley and the Kerry campaign.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Kerry campaign sees Thursday night's debate as another chance at a first impression.

SEN. JOHN EDWARDS, DEMOCRATIC VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I've been talking to John every day, and he is in a fighting mood. He is ready for this debate.

CROWLEY: After three days of briefing books, mock debates, and rest at a golf resort in Wisconsin, John Kerry left for Miami with a to-do list. First, create doubt about the president as commander in chief, doubt about his ability to do the job. The admen are all over it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, KERRY-EDWARDS AD)

ANNOUNCER: Maybe George Bush can't tell us why he went to Iraq, but it's time he tells us how he's going to fix it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CROWLEY: Item two, question the president's grip on reality, his truthfulness.

EDWARDS: People keep talking about it being a test for John Kerry. It's a test for George Bush. It's a test for whether this president is finally going to be straight and come clean with the American people about what's happening in Iraq.

CROWLEY: And finally, most importantly for Kerry, item three, undo some of this damage.

SEN. JOHN KERRY, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it.

CROWLEY: In an interview with ABC, Kerry took another go at an explanation.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "GOOD MORNING AMERICA," ABC)

KERRY: It just was a very inarticulate way of saying something, and I had one of those inarticulate moments late in the evening when I was dead tired in the primaries, and I didn't say something very clearly.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CROWLEY: As the Bush campaign dutifully notes, it was 1:00 in the afternoon when Kerry made his remarks.

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COOPER: Candy, is the Kerry camp trying to sort of downplay their candidate's debate prowess and play up the debate prowess of President Bush?

CROWLEY: Actually, I was a little bit surprised today to hear Kerry strategists say, We expect our guy to do very well. I will tell you what they are doing, which I find very interesting, which is to concede the style points. They're saying, Look, George Bush is a likable, amiable guy. And then they sort of draw the string from that and say, But, you know, really, what's important are these serious issues.

So they've already kind of conceded the, yes, people are going to be drawn to him. Yes, people are going to like him. But that's not what this is all about. So there are some expectations games going on, it's just not on the who-will-win and who-will-lose angle.

COOPER: Interesting, which I think is a line that Senator Kerry used in a debate against William Weld awhile back in Massachusetts, in that famous series of debates. He sort of said the same kind of thing, like, I may not be able to, you know, sort of speak as well as my opponent, but he obviously has used that line before.

All right, Candy Crowley, thanks very much.

CROWLEY: Thank you.

COOPER: We'll check in with you tomorrow.

As they prepare for tomorrow's debate, each candidate has been reviewing their opponent's past debates, looking for clues, of course, and strategies, strong points and weaknesses.

Last night, we took a look at President Bush's debating record. Tonight, it is Senator Kerry's turn.

Eight years ago, as I just mentioned, Kerry was in a tough fight to keep his Senate seat in Massachusetts, up against a very popular Republican governor. He was behind in the polls. Kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Anyway, midway through the series of the televised debates, Kerry seemed to come alive, and he successfully fended off his challenger. Pulling ahead in the homestretch is a classic move in raw politics.

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COOPER (voice-over): During the series of eight senatorial debates in 1996, Senator John Kerry amazed his opponent, then-Governor William Weld, with his ability to deflect criticism.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: No, governor, I tend to look at it from the point of view of a human being thinking about how we can make things work.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: And his art of counterpunching.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

GOV. WILLIAM WELD (R), MASSACHUSETTS: You're the one that voted for the $800 per-person surcharge on Medicare recipients in 1988.

KERRY: Governor, that was for people who were earning more than $100,000, governor.

WELD: No...

KERRY: That's correct.

WELD: ... it was every single person.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WELD: This guy has the speed of a welterweight. He can bob, he can weave, he can move around. It's very hard to land a direct blow on him in a debate.

COOPER: His accuracy defied all expectations.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: It has given us steady growth in this country, 10.5 million jobs, low interest rates, low inflation, low unemployment. We have the smallest government we've had in Washington since Jack Kennedy was president of the United States.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JAMES FALLOWS, "ATLANTIC MONTHLY" CORRESPONDENT: The main model I think people should have in mind as they watch him is a prosecutor in a courtroom, who is trying to grill a witness and is sort of thinking two questions and two answers ahead of the witness. That's when he is at his best. COOPER: And then there was this moment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

WELD: Could you look into the camera or perhaps at Anne Scavina (ph)...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Governor Weld brought in the audience the mother of a murdered police officer to challenge John Kerry's opposition to the death penalty.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

WELD: Tell her why the life of the man that murdered her son is worth more than the life of her son, the police officer.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: This was John Kerry's response.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: It's not worth more. It's not. It's not worth anything. It's scum that ought to be thrown into jail for the rest of its life and that ought to learn day after day the pain and hell of living with a loss of freedom and with the crime committed.

But the fact is, governor, that, yes, I've been opposed to the death penalty. I know something about killing. I don't like killing. And I don't think a state honors life by turning around and sanctioning killing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FALLOWS: He showed a jiu-jitsu-like ability to turn what Weld had thought was his strength back against Weld himself.

COOPER: In Massachusetts, using martial arts in a debate? Now that is raw politics.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, 1995)

KERRY: You bet.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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COOPER: It's going to be a fascinating night tomorrow.

360 next, space cowboys on a wild ride, blasting to the edge of the world for a $10 million prize. Question is, will they make history by making space tourism possible? Also tonight, Martha Stewart's prison. We're going to hear from a former inmate who has been there, hear what life will be like for the multimillion felon.

And a little later, a new Laci Peterson theory, yes, a new one. Details emerge of an eyewitness in the Peterson neighborhood who says he saw a scared pregnant woman yanked into a van. Did police investigate? We'll look at that ahead.

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COOPER: One of America's first astronauts, Allen Shepard, is famously quoted as telling folks on the ground who were dealing with a problem to, quote, well, he said, "Why don't you fix your little problem and light this candle?"

We got a reminder of that spirit today when a test pilot rode a privately financed rocket to the edge of space, despite being told to abort his mission.

Here's CNN space correspondent Miles O'Brien.

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MILES O'BRIEN, CNN SPACE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On a roll, and on the cusp of a head-spinning payday, "Spaceshipone" rocketed straight toward a dip in space once again, the first of two hurdles to capture the $10 million Ansari X-Prize, pilot Mike Melvill offering a breathtaking display of unplanned high-altitude aerobatic flying.

MIKE MELVILL, "SPACESHIPONE" PILOT: It was a fast roll, and it was a spectacular view out of the window, watching the world go around that quickly.

O'BRIEN: Fun, but he still turned the rocket motor off early just in case, but not too early to pass through the boundary of space, 328,000 feet. Radars at nearby Edwards Air Force Base recorded the apex at 337,500. The prize judges concurred.

GREGG MARAYNIAK, X-PRIZE JUDGE: In terms of white smoke or black smoke, the answer is white smoke.

O'BRIEN: Now the team has two weeks to repeat the feat in order to win the prize. Designer and builder Burt Rutan believes he can fly again much sooner. He says there's nothing to fix on the spacecraft. He says the rolls just prove how safe the spaceship really is.

BURT RUTAN, SCALED COMPOSITES: When you end up with a high roll rate and you didn't plan to do it, OK, on a manned spacecraft, that's normally a very, very big deal. I mean, that would be an accident if it happened on the space shuttle or the X-15. No question we would be looking for small pieces now.

O'BRIEN: Instead, they're looking to pick up a big check, and the founder of the X-Prize could not be happier. PETER DIAMANDIS, ANSARI X-PRIZE: Thank you, Mike, for making our dreams come true today. We're one step further towards getting us all into space.

O'BRIEN: Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen funded the $25 million project.

PAUL ALLEN, "SPACESHIPONE" FUNDER: Being halfway to win the X- Prize is fantastic. Now we can do this every, you know, every four or five days, we can do this.

O'BRIEN (on camera): Now the team is motivated to turn "Spaceshipone" around for that second flight, and they'd still like to aim for Monday, October 4. That spectacular roll we saw is not stopping them from rolling on. It may have seemed scary for us, but for folks here in Mojave, it's just another day at the office.

Miles O'Brien, CNN, Mojave, California.

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COOPER: It's a pretty tough office.

A death sentence for terrorists involved in the U.S.S. "Cole" attack tops our look at what's happening around the world in the uplink.

In Yemen, two men will be put to death. Four others face prison terms up to 10 years for planning the U.S.S. "Cole" suicide bombing four years ago. The attack killed 17 U.S. sailors. One defendant says the sentence is unjust. That's what he called it.

Ledow (ph), Norway, a trouble in flight. A man with an axe attacked a pilot and a passenger. The plane went into a nosedive during the attack. Somehow the pilots managed to level the plane. Three people were injured. Police say the attacker probably carried the axe on board the plane. Hard to believe. The motive is unclear.

In Japan, Typhoon Mary strikes. The streets are flooded due to the heavy rains. Take a look at the winds, gusts up to 67 miles per hour. A tough day there indeed.

Beijing, China, peacekeeping forces now heading for Haiti. This is China's first U.N. mission in the Western Hemisphere. They'll help the hurricane-ravaged country, where more than 1,500 people were killed when Jeanne hit earlier this month. There's also political tension after President Jean-Bertrand Aristide was ousted earlier this year.

And in Rio de Janeiro, beach beatings caught on video. Take a look at this. A gang of about 30 teenagers attacked and robbed tourists sunbathing on Rio's famous La Blum (ph) Beach. Police stepped up security and are looking at the video in hopes of tracking down those involved. Terrible thing.

That is a quick look at what's happening tonight's uplink. Geragos finishes grilling the top cop in the Scott Peterson case, but did he really make jurors doubt the detective's methods and his motives?

Martha Stewart gets a cell. The Department of Justice tells her what prison she'll be sent to. We'll tell you what the conditions are like in her new Big House.

And does the guy you like really like you back? A new book from the "Sex in the City" experts tells women to wake up, because, in truth, he's just not that into you.

360 continues.

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COOPER: Martha Stewart is told what prison she'll go to and a former inmate describes what it's really like on the inside. That's next on 360.

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COOPER: In the next half hour on 360, an inside look at Martha Stewart's new prison home. We'll hear from a former inmate on what she can expect there.

First let's check our top stories in tonight's "Reset."

Washington state: a volcano advisory at Mount St. Helens. Scientists warning the mountain is likely to blow. The lava dome within the crater appears to be moving up and scientists are monitoring the most intense seismic activity there in 20 years. Last eruption, of course, was back in 1980, 57 people were killed in an avalanche of rock and ash. Scientists' best guess is this one will not be nearly as bad if it does erupt.

The fourth hurricane to hit the U.S., whipping up enormous damages. Insurance industries tell CNN, combined insurance damages will exceed $15.5 billion. It's pretty staggering, it's not the worst, certainly. 1992's Hurricane Andrew alone remains the costliest hurricane on record in today's dollars, we're talking $20 billion.

In New York a key part of the Patriot Act was struck down. A federal judge has ruled the provision that allows the FBI to demand company records from businesses without court approval is unconstitutional. The ACLU brought the suit, the government will likely appeal. That's a quick look at "The Reset" tonight.

Our top story, though Martha Stewart has a new home, Alderson, West Virginia, population 1,091, soon to be 92. We suspect Ms. Stewart had to look it up Alderson on a map. It's unlikely she would imagine she would spend time there.

Of course, by October 8th, she'll not be spending time there, she'll be doing time.

CNN's Allan Chernoff has more on the minimum security federal home.

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ALLAN CHERNOFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: From the outside it could pass for a prep school campus, but make no mistake, this is the prison camp Martha Stewart will call home for five months. She must check in no later than a week from Friday. Inside, Stewart will be sharing one of these bunks wearing a khaki uniform. And instead of giving orders, Stewart will have to take them. She'll be working, perhaps cleaning or grounds keeping for 12 cents an hour. Alderson, West Virginia, is not where Martha Stewart had hoped to go.

MARTHA STEWART: I do hope there will be room at Danbury facility which is the prison near toast my home and close enough so that my 90- year-old mother and others can visit me.

CHERNOFF: In a statement Stewart said Wednesday, while I had hoped to be designated to a facility closer to my family and more accessible to my appellate attorneys, I am pleased that the bureau of prisons has designated me so quickly to the federal prison camp, Alderson. Alderson, known as camp cupcake was established as the first prison camp for women. The majority of inmates are drug offender, singer Billie Holiday did time for drugs. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme who tried to kill President Ford escaped from Alderson. Martha Stewart was convicted of obstructing justice and lying to federal agents about a stock sale. She got the minimum sentence five months in prison, five months of home detention, but it will be a huge adjustment for a corporate executive and member of high society.

STEWART: I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid whatsoever.

CHERNOFF: Stewart's attorneys are going ahead with their appeal and expect a hearing in early January, meaning Martha Stewart will still be serving her time as her attorneys try to reverse her conviction.

Allan Chernoff, CNN Financial News, New York.

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COOPER: My next guest knows a lot about Alderson. Becky Johnson was an inmate for five months for a trespassing conviction. She joins me now from San Francisco.

Thank you very much for being with us, Becky.

In understand, you say the first day for you was really the hardest, why?

BECKY JOHNSON, FORMER ALDERSON INMATE: Absolutely. The first day is the day where you learn about the unknown. The whole experience is unknown and you spend time that first day just going through the motions of learning that you don't have control over your life anymore. You have to have a tuberculosis test. You have your first strip search. All of these are demeaning and scary acts that you have to go through on your first day. COOPER: And once you make it through that first day what then becomes the hardest part?

JOHNSON: Well, honestly, at the end of first day you get your first great surprise which is that the inmates really welcome you with open arms. But after that the hardest issue for the rest of the time is just realizing how little control you have over your life which is part of the punishment, of course.

COOPER: So the other inmates welcome you with open arms?

I mean, that's so different from what I've heard of other prisons where, you know, sort of horrible things happen once you actually get into the general population.

JOHNSON: Well, that may be true in other prisons, but at Alderson, the women who come there are nonviolent offenders, which means they don't have violence in their past. They're not escape risks. And so there's really no danger of physical violence there. What is...

COOPER: I know -- I'm sorry, go ahead.

JOHNSON: Go ahead.

COOPER: I know there have been famous people there in the past, Billie Holiday, Squeaky Fromme was there, how do you think fame makes a prisoner different?

How do you think Martha Stewart will be received?

JOHNSON: Well, honestly, when I was there I was considered one of the protester, one of the famous people who have newspaper articles made about them. And it was just -- it was an anomaly, but people wondered at it as opposed, nobody felt very badly about us. In fact they wanted to know what we did. And I feel like the same thing will happen for Martha Stewart.

COOPER: I mean, are there, you know, you hear in prisons there are drugs, there is sex and there is all sorts of illicit activity going on. I take it at a facility like this, that doesn't occur?

JOHNSON: Well, there must be all of those things going on as well. It's not at the surface, though. Really, the women who are there are non-violent offenders. Most of them would probably be better being sentenced to some other form of service for their sentence. And so really, they form a bond with each other. They're not perfect, of course, they've made mistakes in their life, but they do form a strong bond, trying to make the best out of their situation.

COOPER: What's your best advice for someone like Martha Stewart?

JOHNSON: Well, really, she has to go in there realizing that these women are not evil. If she goes in believing that they are OK women and that she can actually be a part of them, maybe even make friends with them over the time that she's there, I think she'll do a lot better than if she tries to stay to herself.

COOPER: And you were in a what -- it's a bunk bed, very limited privileges, you have to get a minimum wage job?

JOHNSON: Absolutely. Minimum wage at the prison camp is $5.25 a month and we are required to work for 40 hours a week. And the bunk bed area, you stay on a warehouse floor when you first move there in a cubicle area with a bunkmate, of course.

COOPER: All right, Becky Johnson. Well, it's a tough experience and we appreciate you joining us to talk about it.

JOHNSON: No problem. I'm glad to be here.

COOPER: All right. Thanks very much, Becky.

Today's "Buzz" is this.

What do you think? Do you think Martha Stewart will make a successful comeback after prison?

Log on to cnn.com/360. Cast your votes, we'll have results at the end of program tonight.

Up next on 360, the Scott Peterson trial, a new theory on his wife's murder. There have been many from the defense, today yet another one

Today are you calling him when he's not calling you?

Hanging on instead of hanging up?

The truth about men and how to know when he's just not that into you. A new book tells it all. We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Prosecutors say Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife in their home and then of course dumped her body into the bay, but the defense today wanted the jury to know that there were other possibilities from tips they say the police never followed up on and they tried to hammer that home during the final day of cross- examination of the top cop. CNN's Ted Rowlands has the latest from the courtroom.

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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Defense attorney Mark Geragos has finished his cross-examination of Detective Craig Grogan. It has been four days of using Grogan to try to punch holes in the prosecution's case. The defense wants the jury to know that many tips in this case were not investigated by police. Grogan acknowledged that one man told police that near Peterson's neighborhood he saw a scared pregnant woman urinating next to a van a few days after Laci Peterson was reported missing. The tipster told police a suspicious male stood guard with his hands up which Geragos demonstrated in front of the jury. According to the story, the woman was then taken to the van and pulled in by another man. Grogan testified that a number of sightings which Geragos has brought up were not investigated because there were thousands of tips and resources were limited. The judge has allowed Geragos to ask Grogan about these tips and leads whether they were verified or not to allow jurors a sense of the choices that Grogan made during the investigation. But the judge has told jurors not to take the content of these tips as the truth.

DEAN JOHNSON, LEGAL ANALYST: I tend to think that if a juror has heard somewhere that somebody sighted Laci and McKinsey (ph) on a walk they're not going to say, well, that was only admitted for Detective Grogan's state of mind. We have to ignore that.

ROWLANDS: Grogan also testified that while investigators believed Laci Peterson was strangled or suffocated, no physical evidence of that was found in the Petersons' bed or anywhere in the house.

When Mark Geragos announced that he had completed his cross- examination of Detective Grogan, one of the jurors actually did a mock clap in the courtroom. Ted Rowlands, CNN, Redwood City, California.

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COOPER: Covering the trial for us in "Justice Served" from the courthouse, 360 legal analyst Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom and from Miami defense attorney Jayne Weintraub. Good to see both of you. Kimberly, I understand you think the prosecution scored some points with testimony about Peterson's hopes of trying to sell his house furnished. What points do you think they scored?

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE NEWSOM, 360 LEGAL ANALYST: Yes, this came at the end of day, after the juror clapped because thank goodness, the cross-examination was over. It was an issue of about Scott Peterson wanting to sell the house. At the same time he sent an e-mail to Laci's family saying I'm sorry I wasn't straightforward about my infidelity about the affair with Amber. Let's work together, we can do more together than separate. This sounded amazing, what a loving husband. We were like, where is she going with this?

Sure enough, very subtle, the D.A. Burgett Flattiger came in with a bang and said this was at same time that this man was inquiring about selling this house furnished and one of the issues in the e-mail was how he said he said he wanted to keep the lamps. They had asked for some property of Laci's back, these special lamps she liked, photos, memorabilia, et cetera, and he said I'd like to keep the things and the furniture so it can be here when she gets home while at the same time he's making calls to two different realtors to sell the house furnished. It was awful. People in the court were, like, wow. One lady next to me goes, perfect, like that. It was unbelievable.

COOPER: Jayne, I can't see you, but I can imagine you rolling your eyes right now.

JAYNE WEINTRAUB, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I certainly am. That at the end of the day when Mark Geragos has Grogan on the witness stand to admit four significant tips that were ignored on her block, one by a deputy D.A., one by a police officer that was never followed up that he thought he saw a pregnant woman matching the description forced in a van. These aren't maybe crazy people. These are real people in the neighborhood. That's number one but number two, what did Geragos get today that was amazing to me? How about the fact that they discussed, as police officers and district attorneys, whether or not to do an experiment, if the boat would tip with a pregnant woman or not.

In other words, is it possible that he took her on that boat and they decided not to try. You know why? Because if they tried and it failed like they were afraid they would have to disclose that to the defense and it would become part of the record. So they didn't bother to try.

COOPER: Kimberly, how significant do you think that is?

GUILFOYLE NEWSOM: I think it is very significant. I was speaking with sources, shall we say, very close to the defense and they felt that that was a big point. I think it was a big point. But then again we would be criticizing the prosecution if they did do it, because it would have been O.J. Simpson with the glove all over again. Perhaps there were a few lessons that have been learned over the years.

COOPER: Jayne, the defense made a big deal about this burglary that had occurred on the block, but...

WEINTRAUB: The brown van.

COOPER: The brown van and a burglary, but the timeline on that seems somewhat confused because the dog, the Peterson's dog was seen roaming around before the couple ever left, before this burglary allegedly took place.

WEINTRAUB: But that doesn't mean that those people didn't come back. One thing I can tell you, of course, I won't name my sources, but one thing I can tell you from clients is a lot of times people committing burglaries or robberies go back for certain things. They find ways to get into certain places and they go back again.

COOPER: Your clients have told you this?

WEINTRAUB: You know, you'd be amazed at things I know, Anderson. I'll tell you something else about this case. This case is a classic case of the police trying to fit a square peg in a circle and Mark Geragos demonstrated today over and over again, no matter what, they weren't looking for the truth. They were looking at ways to get that in to convict Scott Peterson.

COOPER: I'll have to leave it there. Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom and criminal defense attorney Jayne Weintraub. Thanks very much.

For women it's the no excuse truth to understanding guys, a much lighter note next on 360, a new book based on an episode of "Sex in the City" says, you know what? Truth is, he's just not that into you. We'll talk to the authors coming up next.

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CYNTHIA NIXON, ACTRESS: And he said he'd call.

SARAH JESSICA PARKER, ACTRESS: Two kisses, very promising.

NIXON: You think, even though he didn't come up.

KRISTEN DAVIS, ACTRESS: Definitely. It means he likes you, but he wants to take it slow. That's nice.

NIXON: Berger, what do you think?

RON LIVINGSTON, ACTOR: You really want to know?

NIXON: Please, I would love to have a man's opinion for a change.

LIVINGSTON: All right. I'm not going to sugar coat it for you. He's just not that into you.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Ouch! Miranda in the show "Sex and the City," hearing the very words that countless dating women fear, the real reason he doesn't want to come up, the real reason he doesn't return e-mails, the real reason he doesn't call, he's just not that into you.

That wake-up call for women comes from "Sex and the City" consultant Greg Behrendt and executive story editor Liz Dechula, -- excuse me, Tuccillo. Their new book, "He's Just Not That Into You: The No Excuses Truth To Understanding Guys" has become a best seller. Earlier I spoke to both of them about why otherwise smart women make excuses for uninterested men.

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COOPER: Do women make it easier for guys to sport sort of give excuses?

LIZ TUCCILLO, AUTHOR: Yes. They either let them or they actually give the excuses for them. Sometimes the man doesn't have an excuse.

GREG BEHRENDT, AUTHOR: And they are completely complicit in it. Yes, they definitely make it happen.

COOPER: Why do they do that?

TUCCILLO: I think that they would rather often have the sort of desire for a relationship as opposed to the reality of the relationship. So even when they think it's not really happening, they sort of want to cling on to an excuse. COOPER: That's sad.

BEHRENDT: It is sad. And then it makes men kind of paranoid. And so they decide to fade you out as opposed to tell you it's over, because men are afraid of conflict.

COOPER: All right. Let's talk about the excuses that women sort of give themselves. The maybe he doesn't want to ruin a friendship excuse.

BEHRENDT: No. He doesn't want to ruin the friendship because that's not true. He's not turned on by you. If he was sexually into you, he would love that, because then he would have the friendship and the sex. Basically he's saying we're only ever going to be friends.

COOPER: Bottom line.

BEHRENDT: He's just not into you.

TUCCILLO: He's just not into you.

COOPER: It's terrible.

TUCCILLO: It's so tough. This is going to be rough.

COOPER: It's like a slap in the face.

TUCCILLO: Oh yes. It's a slap in the face.

COOPER: But you think it's a healthy thing.

BEHRENDT: I think it's a really good thing. Because that way you look at the situation of what's actually happening in the situation and then you get to move on. And you don't have to stay in this lousy relationship with a dude who's not honoring you, or into you.

COOPER: All right. Sometimes women say, maybe he's intimidated by me. That's an excuse.

TUCCILLO: We use that a lot in "Sex and the City" because we all have the great jobs, and Greg would say, you'd want to go out with a guy who's intimidated with you?

BEHRENDT: Who wants to go out with a guy who's intimidated? Oh, I'm a weakling. You know what I mean? Like if a guys what's something, and you want a job, you'll get the job. So, if you want a girl, why would you put that kind of effort into it?

COOPER: And you don't think a guy really -- I mean, isn't that a valid excuse. Maybe some guys are intimidated to...

BEHRENDT: Then they don't get to have the good thing. Don't be intimidated. Be the man, step up, risk something. That's the guy you want to be with.

COOPER: Maybe he's just too busy, can't call.

BEHRENDT: That's the weapons of mass destruction.

TUCCILLO: Yes. That's the biggest one, especially in New York.

BEHRENDT: I mean, who isn't busy. Who can't say that? You can't argue with busy, I'm busy. Doing what? I have stuff going on. What kind of stuff? Lots of stuff, business stuff, busy stuff going on. Basically, it's like, no, my foot hurts, I'm seeing somebody else, I'm not into you.

TUCCILLO: It's so rough.

BEHRENDT: And in this day and age, people say he was just too busy to call.

TUCCHILLO: Yes. We'll use that all the time. That's the first one we'll go to for ladies and...

BEHRENDT: That's impossible. Because I wasn't too busy to call my wife. That's how she became my wife. You know what I mean? I'll even call her to tell her I can't call.

Hi. I can't call now. Like when Liz and I were writing the book, we're really busy, but I love you, I'll call tomorrow. You know what I mean? Just let them know. I love her, I respect her and I don't want to hurt her feelings.

COOPER: If they're not calling, they're just not into you.

But a lot of people say, look, but he gave me the number and he told me to call.

BEHRENDT: The magic trick. The magic trick. Hey, David Blaine, how did you do that? Get out of your glass box. How did you flip it so now suddenly you're asking him out. That doesn't make sense.

COOPER: Should a woman call a guy?

TUCCILLO: It's very controversial. Greg has beaten it into my head no and I'm starting to come around, yes. I say no. Even though a liberated woman.

COOPER: No.

TUCCILLO: Because you know what? A guy should ask me out.

BEHRENDT: Yes. Women are worth being asked out. I think that's the best place to start.

COOPER: What about if maybe he wants to take it slow.

BEHRENDT: He wants to slow down to make it stop. Slow it down to a complete halt, how about that?

COOPER: Well, he doesn't want to have sex, he just likes to cuddle a lot.

BEHRENDT: Ooh, who's that guy? You know what I mean.

He's not that into you.

TUCCILLO: Yes. He doesn't want to be in a relationship with you, so this is the closest he'll get.

BEHRENDT: Yes. The relationship part is have we get have sex and stuff. We get to hang out together.

COOPER: It's a brutal wake-up call, but perhaps a healthy wake- up call.

TUCCILLO: People, obviously, the book is doing well so people clearly needed it. They needed to hear it I guess now.

COOPER: Greg and Liz, thanks very much.

BEHRENDT: Thank you, man.

COOPER: Tough crowd.

360 next, it's a bird, it's a plane, but it's not superman, at least not in Sweden where a couple wants to name their son after the superhero, but they're being told no. We're going to take that to the Nth Degree.

Tomorrow, we're live from Miami as President Bush and Senator Kerry square off in their first televised debate. A special edition of 360 tomorrow.

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COOPER: The Buzz, "Do you think Martha Stewart will make a successful comeback after prison?" Her agent will be thrilled with these results. 89 percent say yes, 11 percent say no. Not a scientific poll, but it is your Buzz. We appreciate you voting.

Tonight, taking freedom of choice to the Nth Degree. Yeah, yeah, Swedes or liberal, tolerant, nonjudgmental, open mined, anything goes in Sweden as long as you don't rub people's faces in what you're doing or make a lot of noise.

And yet, get this. Authorities in that famously live and let live country have denied a husband and wife permission to give their infant son the name of their choice.

The authorities say calling the kid Superman would lead to trouble later in the boy's life. Oh, sure, Superman is much worse than, what? Ingmar? Anyway, is this the government's business? Not in the U.S. of A, thank goodness, we Americans can call our kids any fool thing we want. Groucho, Uncle Sam, Bo Peep, Madonna, Buffalo Bill. It's no one's lookout, but our own, if we want to name the pride and joy, Spiderman, Shaquille, Dr. Phil, Diet Pepsi.

A weird name may cause trouble later in life. I mean, imagine introducing yourself at a cocktail party as Donald Duck Jacoby, but hey, isn't freedom worth a little embarrassment?

I'm Anderson Cooper. Thanks for watching 360. We'll be down in Miami tomorrow night for special coverage of the debates. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

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