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"Deep Dish Politics"; Soldier Field Could Lose Federal Landmark Status
Aired October 22, 2004 - 08:30 ET
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BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. We're live at the Adler Planetarium, on the shores of Lake Michigan.
Soledad is dancing, because she goes home today...
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Great music.
HEMMER: She goes home to see her four children today.
O'BRIEN: Yes.
HEMMER: You're looking forward to that, aren't you?
O'BRIEN: Yes, I am, although we've had a wonderful visit...
HEMMER: Yes, we have.
O'BRIEN: And a good time.
HEMMER: I got a lot of pictures.
O'BRIEN: Yes, I had a nice time, and we had some great music and beautiful pieces. And big thank you to everyone who's been hosting us. And also some of the folks we've been working with.
HEMMER: We got some stories too, stories about Jack.
O'BRIEN: A little work, a little fun.
Got a lot of stories about Jack. No, we won't tell them.
HEMMER: Welcome back, everyone, to this AMERICAN MORNING.
In a moment, serving up another slice of -- a final slice of deep dish politics. Members of the Chicago media join us, talking about last-minute factors that may swing the election, things like the return of Bill Clinton on Monday, same day voter registration, all that, coming up in just moments here.
O'BRIEN: Also this morning, did an out-of-control architect turn Chicago's legendary Soldier Field -- I keep calling it "Soldier's Field," which of course is the name of the one in Boston, but Soldier Field into a monstrosity. Some people say yes. That's one version. We're going to get a look at other version of events, and take a look at why some officials plan to make an example of the football stadium. That's just ahead. HEMMER: I like it.
Heidi Collins here...
O'BRIEN: You might be the only one.
HEMMER: I think you're right.
Heidi Collins has the headlines.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: I had a chance when I was in Denver to watch the construction of INVESCO Field when they got rid of, you know, Broncos stadium, and that as quite controversial as well, but now gorgeous. So maybe you'll have some people jumping on it, onboard your train.
HEMMER: Opinions can change with time.
COLLINS: Yes, this is true.
I do want to get to the news now, though, this morning, intense fighting between Pakistani troops and suspected Al Qaeda members, so much so that some families and towns along the border with Afghanistan are fleeing the violence. Pakistani troops combing the area for Osama bin Laden and members of his terror network.
Back here in the United States, new information about last week's bus crash in eastern Arkansas. Arkansas state police say careless drive something to blame for the crash that killed 14 people and injured 16 others. The bus company denies that claim though. Federal officials are still investigating.
On the campaign trail, former Vice President Al Gore heading to Florida. Gore will campaign on behalf of Senator John Kerry this weekend, in the same state where a bitter recount ended his own presidential bid. I'm sure you remember that.
President Bush also spends this weekend in the Sunshine State, but today, he rallies with supporters in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Ralph Nader wants the U.S. Supreme Court to place him on the Pennsylvania ballot. The independent candidate reportedly asked the High Court to review the battleground state's decision to keep him off. On Tuesday, the state upheld a lower court's ruling that found Nader's nomination papers flawed. Pennsylvania officials have until this afternoon to respond to those accusations.
And that is all the news for now.
Back to you, Soledad. I almost said, back to you, soldier.
O'BRIEN: Aye-aye, ma'am.
Soldier Field, in fact, is the home of the Bears, one of Chicago's greatest landmarks, but it could be losing its federal landmark status. CNN's Chris Lawrence is outside Soldier Field this morning for us.
Hey, Chris, good morning.
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Soledad, Bill is not only one who likes it. "The New York Times has raved about it, the design has won awards, but of course, some people here still call it the "toilet bowl." But you know, this argument against landmark status really isn't about whether you love it or hate it, it cuts to the heart of what it means to be a national landmark and whether you can change something so much that the building becomes something completely new and different.
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LAWRENCE (voice-over): For the Chicago Bears, it's one thing to get beat at home, but quite another to watch your home take a critical beating.
BLAIR KAMIN, "CHICAGO TRIBUNE": It almost looks like the Starship Enterprise crash landed on top of the Lincoln Memorial.
LAWRENCE: Critics call Soldier Field's renovation the "eyesore on the lake shore."
ZAK BURKONE, FRUSTRATED FAN: It needed a facelift, but this is more than a face lift. This is a tummy tuck, the whole deal.
LAWRENCE: Soldier Field was built 80 years ago and dedicated to veterans of World War I. It's a national landmark, like the White House and Brooklyn Bridge. To renovate it, planners squeezed a new stadium between the colonnades.
But the National Park Service says the changes obliterate what made the place historic, and recommended Soldier Field be removed from the national landmark list.
JOE CAPRILE, ARCHITECT: It's not trying to replicate the historic. The historic has been kept intact, and separated from the new.
LAWRENCE: Architect Joe Caprile helped redesigned Soldier Field, and wants the landmarks people to realize the challenge of building the new, while preserving the old.
JEAN JEHTY, SATISFIED FAN: They made the upgrades that they've needed to make without actually losing most of that historic feel that you had before.
LAWRENCE: Architecture critic Blair Kamin says the government is sending a message to other architects and politicians who change historic structures.
KAMIN: We will take it off our list, we will strip it of its status. LAWRENCE: It doesn't matter in terms of money, but you lose prestige. And the final call comes down to the secretary of the interior who will decide whether Soldier Field's architect scored a touchdown, or fumbled away its landmark status.
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(on camera): Again, it's a big honor, that's the big thing, it's an honorary designation. And ultimately, by the end of the year, it's going to be up to the Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton who will make the final call -- Soledad.
O'BRIEN: So it's a big decision. What could it mean, and what could be implications be for other landmarks?
LAWRENCE: Well, you can look ahead and think, well, if they're going to do this, if they're going to put these parameters on how much you can change, you could say, well, say if officials decided for security reasons to dramatically alter the White House, it's conceivable that down the line even something as important as that could lose its landmark status.
O'BRIEN: Big implications. Chris Lawrence, thanks so much. Appreciate it.
And let's head back over to Bill.
HEMMER: All right, Soledad, thanks, on this Friday morning. One final slice of "Deep Dish Politics."
From left to right over here, Debra Pickett is back with us from the "Chicago Sun-Times," from the "Tribune," Jim Warren is here.
Jim, good morning to you.
JIM WARREN, "CHICAGO TRIBUNE": Hello.
HEMMER: And Teri O'Brien, radio host at WLS here in Chicago.
How're we doing?
TERI O'BRIEN, WLS RADIO: Terrific.
HEMMER: Bill Clinton back on the stump for John Kerry on Monday.
O'BRIEN: He is. He is.
HEMMER: Do you think there were some risks in this, like what?
O'BRIEN: It's -- he's a very polarizing figure, and so it's a double-edged sword. He's a rock star to Democrats, clearly, and we know that John Kerry's very concerned about the African-American vote, and he's very popular with that community. But on the other hand, he could energize the people that are very much opposed to what his administration represented.
HEMMER: Tough to keep him down, though, when it's presidential politics in an election year.
Debra, curious to know, what's the reaction you're hearing from mothers and from women based on the Teresa Heinz Kerry/Laura Bush comments from this week?
DEBRA PICKETT, "CHICAGO SUN-TIMES": Well, it's interesting. I hear a lot from my readers who are younger single women who aren't necessarily mothers, and they were really interested in the idea of having a discussion about work, and life and how real women actually balance that. And so the idea of actually talking about real jobs and real life was kind of exciting, and it's almost too bad I think for that block of voters that everyone is so eager to apologize and sort of smooth over this whole thing.
HEMMER: Do they take anything in an insulting manner when they hear that phrase "real job?" Because that was the catch phrase that...
PICKETT: That certainly was the catch phrase. In some respects, that's sort of the ultimate politically incorrect thing to say, to actually make some sort of implication that working outside the home for pay, getting up and going out and doing a job every day is realer than being a stay-at-home mom. But the fact is that the reality, economically, for most women in this country is that they have to go out and work a job.
HEMMER: I want to get to the Catholic issue here. Chicago, Illinois, well known for its Catholic population. When it comes to John Kerry, how does he secure this vote, and are there dangers right now in the waters in which he's treading, Jim?
WARREN: I've got to be the early morning grouch here, Bill. I don't think Bill Clinton's appearance is going to make any difference. I don't think Laura Bush, the comment about Laura and jobs, is going to make a difference by Teresa Heinz Kerry. I think it's most important really for the president. The president, yesterday his 40th trip to the state of Pennsylvania. What that is largely about is trying to secure a big chunk of that estimated 30 percent of the Pennsylvania vote which is claimed to be Roman Catholic. No surprise, no accident that he spent time with the Catholic archbishop of Philadelphia yesterday. His fingers are crossed, as it is, with the conservative, Christian vote, that he believes can he get out four million of those, Karl Rove believes, did not come out four years ago. It's all part and parcel of that.
HEMMER: It's why the White House is securing from Catholic Church, church lists, trying to get to those people, direct mail. It's going to be very interesting.
To me, the most interesting thing is are we sort of setting up a caricature of these people? If you're the Roman catholic in Pennsylvania, who is, say, out of work, you've lost your manufacturing job, do you view yourself as a Catholic, who is a little bit chagrined by John Kerry's views on stem cell research? Or do you view yourself as someone who is desperate to get a job again, who is not terribly happy with your perception of the president's handling of the economy. HEMMER: In 2000, 25 percent of those who voted were Roman Catholics.
WARREN: Right.
HEMMER: So you're suggesting now that this vote could be split this year?
WARREN: I'm suggesting that it's really kind of tricky what yourself image is, how you go and vote. Are you going to vote as a Catholic? Are you doing to vote as a Catholic? Are you going to vote as someone who's looking for a job, or are you going to vote, for instance, in a state like Oregon, or Michigan or Ohio, which have these gay marriage-ban referendums as someone who's intrigued by that issue?
HEMMER: And you saw what happened when that referendum was in the state of Missouri.
What do you got there? Are we getting to that part just yet?
O'BRIEN: You can't ask me another question. Going to go back.
HEMMER: OK, wonderful. Thank you for that.
O'BRIEN: I've got one for you guys as well.
HEMMER: What do you hear from your radio call-in folks?
O'BRIEN: About?
HEMMER: About the Catholic issue here in Chicago.
O'BRIEN: Oh, definitely a very important issue, because in that last debate, that was the one issue that reduced Senator Kerry to just incomprehensible babbling, and he contradicts himself a lot, but he contradicted himself like four times in 30 seconds. It was really frightening.
PICKETT: You know, I'm not sure about that. I think, as Jim said, you really run a risk of reducing someone to a single factor in their identity in talking about Catholic voters. I think there's a real distinction in terms of people who take their faith extremely seriously, and who consider that a priority in making their voting decision, whether evangelical Christians, or Catholics, or whatever faith they hold, versus folks who are taking a more complex view and looking at themselves in economic terms or in other terms as well. I think those folks...
HEMMER: It is a good discussion. And a lot to consider, and only 11 days left to do it.
Informed, involved, involved, connected, that sounds like AMERICAN MORNING, doesn't it?
O'BRIEN: It does. WARREN: On behalf of the Chamber of Commerce, you know, thanks for showing up here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, we had a great time here.
HEMMER: Well, we've had a great week ourselves, so thank you as well. All right, go get warm. Nice to see you all.
Back upstairs now to Soledad.
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HEMMER: In a moment here, there's a lunar eclipse next week. We're in the perfect spot to get some tips on how best to view it. Some advice from the Adler Planetarium, in a moment here.
O'BRIEN: Plus, Martha Stewart gets creative in the prison kitchen. Andy is "Minding Your Business," just ahead.
Stay with us. You're watching AMERICAN MORNING.
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O'BRIEN: So what goes on here at the Adler when AMERICAN MORNING is not in town? This morning, we are talking to planetarium president, Paul Knappenberger. He's going to show us a little show- and-tell, because of course the lunar eclipse is coming up. We'll talk about that in one moment.
But first, thanks for having us, thanks for hosting us in your amazing planetarium.
PAUL KNAPPENBERGER, PRESIDENT, ADLER PLANETARIUM: Our pleasure.
O'BRIEN: Please, we've enjoyed it very much.
I want to talk a little bit, though, about Max Adler.
Back in the 1930s, a good 20 to 30 years before general public was into science and space exploration, he put a ton of money into building this planetarium. What foresight.
KNAPPENBERGER: He did. He was an officer at Sears Roebuck and Company, and retired in the late '20s, went to Germany, visited the Deutsches Museum, and saw the world's first planetarium, and he said, I've got to have one for Chicago. So he built this. It opened in 1930 on his birthday, May 12th. So next year is our 75th anniversary.
O'BRIEN: You're gearing up for a really big celebration I know.
KNAPPENBERGER: We are.
O'BRIEN: We Has the success of the Mars rovers and the fact that so many people, and especially children, are really following this in the news headlines, at one point, every single day. Has that added to the number of people that come by every day?
KNAPPENBERGER: It has. And we have a full-scale Mars rover model here at the museum. Lots of schoolkids, lots of families have come by and seen it. We also have color 3-D images from the Spirit and Opportunity rovers that we show in our galleries every day.
O'BRIEN: That rover exhibit is great. We're going to take folks inside in just a little bit to show it to them a little bit closer.
For people who want to see the lunar eclipse on Wednesday, first explain what a lunar eclipse exactly is.
KNAPPENBERGER: OK. A lunar eclipse occurs when the full moon passes into the Earth's shadow, and that happens not very frequently, every few years. And so we have a model from our collection. We have one of the largest collections in the world of astronomical -- historical astronomical instruments. And this is called a Tellurian. It was made in Prague in the 1800s.
O'BRIEN: It's beautiful. I notice you wear gloves when you go to touch it, so I'll stand back...
KNAPPENBERGER: Our curators and collection managers tell me I have to wear these gloves to do that. The candle is the sun. And the sun is shining on the Earth, and the moon is orbiting the Earth.
O'BRIEN: So this is our moon here.
KNAPPENBERGER: That's the moon. That's the Earth.
O'BRIEN: You crank it up. As the moon goes this way.
KNAPPENBERGER: Yes, it goes into the shadow of the Earth, and that's the eclipse. That's the lunar eclipse, and then it moves on out on the other side.
O'BRIEN: Will everybody be able to see the lunar eclipse on Wednesday?
KNAPPENBERGER: They will be. Starting -- central time, starting at 8:15, the moon will move into the Earth's shadow, and then it will be total eclipse at 9:20, 10:00 central eclipse, and by 10:40, it starts to come out on the other side of the Earth's shadow.
O'BRIEN: And as you say, it doesn't happen again, I think, until 2007.
KNAPPENBERGER: 2007, but everyone in the U.S., if the skies are clear, ought to be able to see this.
O'BRIEN: What a great opportunity. Paul Knappenberger, thank you again for joining us this morning, and for hosting us this morning.
KNAPPENBERGER: Well, thank you for having me.
O'BRIEN: We appreciate it -- Bill.
HEMMER: Galileo would have been proud. Thanks.
O'BRIEN: You think?
HEMMER: Yes, a break here in a moment. Andy is back, "Minding Your Business," tells us how free trade applies to buffalo wings and waitresses in skimpy outfits. Andy has that, as we continue live in Chicago right after this on AMERICAN MORNING.
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O'BRIEN: Beautiful, isn't it?
HEMMER: Lake Michigan.
O'BRIEN: It's beautiful.
HEMMER: That's where we are today.
O'BRIEN: Yes we are.
HEMMER: Good morning, everyone. Welcome back. Adler Planetarium, our final day in our tour of Chicago this week. Back inside to Jack and Andy. Taking the easy job today, aren't you, guys? You got four walls and a ceiling.
JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: Any way I can get it. Nice and warm in here. Eating those sandwiches. Andy and I are living large.
Martha Stewart is making the best of it in the joint down there in West Virginia. And can it be true we've got an American product that may succeed in the final corruption of the Far East? Andy Serwer is "Minding Your Business." Good morning.
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: That's quite some tease, Jack. Thanks very much.
Let's talk a little bit about the market yesterday. Techs led the charge. Stocks like eBay and Google were up significantly. That's why the Nasdaq was ahead 20 points. You can see there the Dow leading the down side.
Let's talk a little bit about Martha Stewart. First reports coming out of prison, her lawyer was on the "Today" show yesterday saying that she is using her prison time to learn about innovative ways to do microwave cooking. That's where the prisoners prepare their meals. Also, she's been picking crab apples on the grounds of Alderson Prison in West Virginia, learning to respect others apparently, and writing her memoirs on a manual typewriter. She has to buy her own ribbons at the prison store.
CAFFERTY: Don't you wonder if that's all she's been doing?
SERWER: This is all just too much. And I can't read to read the memoirs. I just can't wait. And you know, I guess maybe there's some justice in world, because China send us bird flu and we're sending them Hooters back.
CAFFERTY: Well, that's not -- is that a fair exchange?
SERWER: I think it's a fair exchange. Hooters is coming to Shanghai. And actually, Hooters has got a bunch of stores -- restaurants around the world. They've got one in Switzerland -- my, that's going to be an exciting one. Guatemala -- there's one in Guatemala, as well. Fourteen countries. It started in Clearwater, Florida, in 1983.
And this is an interesting comment from the head of the Shanghai Culinary Association, a gentleman named Xue Yuanqing, who says, "I don't know much about this restaurant, but generally American food is not known for any particular virtues." Well, Xue, it's not about the food. And I think you're about to find out.
CAFFERTY: They're going to go nuts over there.
SERWER: I think it's going to be a hit, don't you think?
CAFFERTY: Oh, it'll be a giant hit. You kidding? Terrific. The divorce rate will skyrocket in -- where is it, Shanghai?
SERWER: Shanghai.
CAFFERTY: All right. Thanks, Andy.
Chicago, once the center of film and TV production for all the wrong reasons. The city's vivid past gave rise to numerous films about Al Capone and the mob in Chicago, as well as violent television series like "The Untouchables," with crimebuster Eliot Ness engaged in weekly submachine gun battles with the likes of Frank Nitti.
It apparently all became too much for a Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley, who ran Hollywood right out of town in the early 1970s by developing a policy that made it almost impossible for filmmakers to get permits to make their movies. But moviemaking's good for the economy -- you know, jobs and all that -- and Chicago's just too rich a location. And eventually, the moviemakers returned and the cataloging of the great stories from this wonderful town resumed.
Here now in "The Cafferty File," a quick trip down Chicago movie memory lane, starting with Alfred Hitchcock's "North By Northwest," shot here in 1959. "In the Heat of the Night" came in 1957. Jack Nicholson's early success "Five Easy Pieces," 1970. And "Silver Streak" with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder -- right...
SERWER: Yes, that's right.
CAFFERTY: ... in 1976. "Blues Brothers," of course, shot here in 1980. So was "Ordinary People," the film that won all those Oscars -- had Robert Redford and Mary Tyler Moore in it -- in 1980. 1983, "Risky Business," the film that launched Tom Cruise's career. John Hughes hit the trifecta in Chicago when he did "Sixteen Candles" in 1984, "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" in 1986, and "Pretty in Pink" in 1987. "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles" debuted in 1987, so did "Field of Dreams," 1989.
Some of the best gangster movies ever shot in Chicago, of course "The Untouchables," 1987. "Goodfellas" was shot in Chicago in 1990. And "Hoffa" -- great film -- 1992, Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito. "Home Alone" was shot here in 1990. 1992 brought "A League of Their Own" with Tom Hanks, Rosie O'Donnell, and one of the most overrated singers in the entire world -- that would have been Madonna. 1993, "Groundhog Day" with Bill Murray -- of course, he's out of Second City here.
In fact, 1993 was a big year for movies in Chicago -- "Rudy," "Sleepless in Seattle" was shot here, along with "The Fugitive" starring Harrison Ford. In 1995, "While You Were Sleeping" with Sandra Bullock. And in 2003, Steve Martin shot "Cheaper By the Dozen" here.
Just a few of the hundreds of films made in the Windy City. Back to you guys.
HEMMER: Jack, did I hear "Sharky's Machine" on that list?
CAFFERTY: No you didn't. And that's a very good point. We missed that one. Tell them why that matters.
HEMMER: We were talking about the other day, right, that they look like corn...
O'BRIEN: Those towers.
HEMMER: ... right?
CAFFERTY: That's what they call them. They're nicknamed the Corn Cobs here in downtown Chicago.
HEMMER: And the back end of the parking lot shows the back end of every vehicle that's parked between the -- floor one and floor 10, right?
CAFFERTY: Right.
HEMMER: Which is a lovely sight, too, by the way. And in that film, one of those cars backed out the wrong way and went into the Chicago River. And now we know. Thank you, Jack.
CAFFERTY: You're welcome.
HEMMER: See you in a couple minutes.
CAFFERTY: All right.
O'BRIEN: Still to come this morning, with just 11 days to the election, one candidate has a surprise edge in a key battleground state. How's it going to affect the campaign? The spin from both sides when AMERICAN MORNING continues from Chicago. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
HEMMER: Good morning. Close races that could bring huge swings in the electoral college. John Kerry and George Bush battling for any edge in just a handful of states.
Police in Boston forced to answer painful questions after a 21- year-old fan is killed during a Red Sox celebration.
And the stranded hikers going home -- what the mountain took away, the mountain has returned -- on this AMERICAN MORNING.
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Aired October 22, 2004 - 08:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. We're live at the Adler Planetarium, on the shores of Lake Michigan.
Soledad is dancing, because she goes home today...
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Great music.
HEMMER: She goes home to see her four children today.
O'BRIEN: Yes.
HEMMER: You're looking forward to that, aren't you?
O'BRIEN: Yes, I am, although we've had a wonderful visit...
HEMMER: Yes, we have.
O'BRIEN: And a good time.
HEMMER: I got a lot of pictures.
O'BRIEN: Yes, I had a nice time, and we had some great music and beautiful pieces. And big thank you to everyone who's been hosting us. And also some of the folks we've been working with.
HEMMER: We got some stories too, stories about Jack.
O'BRIEN: A little work, a little fun.
Got a lot of stories about Jack. No, we won't tell them.
HEMMER: Welcome back, everyone, to this AMERICAN MORNING.
In a moment, serving up another slice of -- a final slice of deep dish politics. Members of the Chicago media join us, talking about last-minute factors that may swing the election, things like the return of Bill Clinton on Monday, same day voter registration, all that, coming up in just moments here.
O'BRIEN: Also this morning, did an out-of-control architect turn Chicago's legendary Soldier Field -- I keep calling it "Soldier's Field," which of course is the name of the one in Boston, but Soldier Field into a monstrosity. Some people say yes. That's one version. We're going to get a look at other version of events, and take a look at why some officials plan to make an example of the football stadium. That's just ahead. HEMMER: I like it.
Heidi Collins here...
O'BRIEN: You might be the only one.
HEMMER: I think you're right.
Heidi Collins has the headlines.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: I had a chance when I was in Denver to watch the construction of INVESCO Field when they got rid of, you know, Broncos stadium, and that as quite controversial as well, but now gorgeous. So maybe you'll have some people jumping on it, onboard your train.
HEMMER: Opinions can change with time.
COLLINS: Yes, this is true.
I do want to get to the news now, though, this morning, intense fighting between Pakistani troops and suspected Al Qaeda members, so much so that some families and towns along the border with Afghanistan are fleeing the violence. Pakistani troops combing the area for Osama bin Laden and members of his terror network.
Back here in the United States, new information about last week's bus crash in eastern Arkansas. Arkansas state police say careless drive something to blame for the crash that killed 14 people and injured 16 others. The bus company denies that claim though. Federal officials are still investigating.
On the campaign trail, former Vice President Al Gore heading to Florida. Gore will campaign on behalf of Senator John Kerry this weekend, in the same state where a bitter recount ended his own presidential bid. I'm sure you remember that.
President Bush also spends this weekend in the Sunshine State, but today, he rallies with supporters in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Ralph Nader wants the U.S. Supreme Court to place him on the Pennsylvania ballot. The independent candidate reportedly asked the High Court to review the battleground state's decision to keep him off. On Tuesday, the state upheld a lower court's ruling that found Nader's nomination papers flawed. Pennsylvania officials have until this afternoon to respond to those accusations.
And that is all the news for now.
Back to you, Soledad. I almost said, back to you, soldier.
O'BRIEN: Aye-aye, ma'am.
Soldier Field, in fact, is the home of the Bears, one of Chicago's greatest landmarks, but it could be losing its federal landmark status. CNN's Chris Lawrence is outside Soldier Field this morning for us.
Hey, Chris, good morning.
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Soledad, Bill is not only one who likes it. "The New York Times has raved about it, the design has won awards, but of course, some people here still call it the "toilet bowl." But you know, this argument against landmark status really isn't about whether you love it or hate it, it cuts to the heart of what it means to be a national landmark and whether you can change something so much that the building becomes something completely new and different.
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LAWRENCE (voice-over): For the Chicago Bears, it's one thing to get beat at home, but quite another to watch your home take a critical beating.
BLAIR KAMIN, "CHICAGO TRIBUNE": It almost looks like the Starship Enterprise crash landed on top of the Lincoln Memorial.
LAWRENCE: Critics call Soldier Field's renovation the "eyesore on the lake shore."
ZAK BURKONE, FRUSTRATED FAN: It needed a facelift, but this is more than a face lift. This is a tummy tuck, the whole deal.
LAWRENCE: Soldier Field was built 80 years ago and dedicated to veterans of World War I. It's a national landmark, like the White House and Brooklyn Bridge. To renovate it, planners squeezed a new stadium between the colonnades.
But the National Park Service says the changes obliterate what made the place historic, and recommended Soldier Field be removed from the national landmark list.
JOE CAPRILE, ARCHITECT: It's not trying to replicate the historic. The historic has been kept intact, and separated from the new.
LAWRENCE: Architect Joe Caprile helped redesigned Soldier Field, and wants the landmarks people to realize the challenge of building the new, while preserving the old.
JEAN JEHTY, SATISFIED FAN: They made the upgrades that they've needed to make without actually losing most of that historic feel that you had before.
LAWRENCE: Architecture critic Blair Kamin says the government is sending a message to other architects and politicians who change historic structures.
KAMIN: We will take it off our list, we will strip it of its status. LAWRENCE: It doesn't matter in terms of money, but you lose prestige. And the final call comes down to the secretary of the interior who will decide whether Soldier Field's architect scored a touchdown, or fumbled away its landmark status.
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(on camera): Again, it's a big honor, that's the big thing, it's an honorary designation. And ultimately, by the end of the year, it's going to be up to the Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton who will make the final call -- Soledad.
O'BRIEN: So it's a big decision. What could it mean, and what could be implications be for other landmarks?
LAWRENCE: Well, you can look ahead and think, well, if they're going to do this, if they're going to put these parameters on how much you can change, you could say, well, say if officials decided for security reasons to dramatically alter the White House, it's conceivable that down the line even something as important as that could lose its landmark status.
O'BRIEN: Big implications. Chris Lawrence, thanks so much. Appreciate it.
And let's head back over to Bill.
HEMMER: All right, Soledad, thanks, on this Friday morning. One final slice of "Deep Dish Politics."
From left to right over here, Debra Pickett is back with us from the "Chicago Sun-Times," from the "Tribune," Jim Warren is here.
Jim, good morning to you.
JIM WARREN, "CHICAGO TRIBUNE": Hello.
HEMMER: And Teri O'Brien, radio host at WLS here in Chicago.
How're we doing?
TERI O'BRIEN, WLS RADIO: Terrific.
HEMMER: Bill Clinton back on the stump for John Kerry on Monday.
O'BRIEN: He is. He is.
HEMMER: Do you think there were some risks in this, like what?
O'BRIEN: It's -- he's a very polarizing figure, and so it's a double-edged sword. He's a rock star to Democrats, clearly, and we know that John Kerry's very concerned about the African-American vote, and he's very popular with that community. But on the other hand, he could energize the people that are very much opposed to what his administration represented.
HEMMER: Tough to keep him down, though, when it's presidential politics in an election year.
Debra, curious to know, what's the reaction you're hearing from mothers and from women based on the Teresa Heinz Kerry/Laura Bush comments from this week?
DEBRA PICKETT, "CHICAGO SUN-TIMES": Well, it's interesting. I hear a lot from my readers who are younger single women who aren't necessarily mothers, and they were really interested in the idea of having a discussion about work, and life and how real women actually balance that. And so the idea of actually talking about real jobs and real life was kind of exciting, and it's almost too bad I think for that block of voters that everyone is so eager to apologize and sort of smooth over this whole thing.
HEMMER: Do they take anything in an insulting manner when they hear that phrase "real job?" Because that was the catch phrase that...
PICKETT: That certainly was the catch phrase. In some respects, that's sort of the ultimate politically incorrect thing to say, to actually make some sort of implication that working outside the home for pay, getting up and going out and doing a job every day is realer than being a stay-at-home mom. But the fact is that the reality, economically, for most women in this country is that they have to go out and work a job.
HEMMER: I want to get to the Catholic issue here. Chicago, Illinois, well known for its Catholic population. When it comes to John Kerry, how does he secure this vote, and are there dangers right now in the waters in which he's treading, Jim?
WARREN: I've got to be the early morning grouch here, Bill. I don't think Bill Clinton's appearance is going to make any difference. I don't think Laura Bush, the comment about Laura and jobs, is going to make a difference by Teresa Heinz Kerry. I think it's most important really for the president. The president, yesterday his 40th trip to the state of Pennsylvania. What that is largely about is trying to secure a big chunk of that estimated 30 percent of the Pennsylvania vote which is claimed to be Roman Catholic. No surprise, no accident that he spent time with the Catholic archbishop of Philadelphia yesterday. His fingers are crossed, as it is, with the conservative, Christian vote, that he believes can he get out four million of those, Karl Rove believes, did not come out four years ago. It's all part and parcel of that.
HEMMER: It's why the White House is securing from Catholic Church, church lists, trying to get to those people, direct mail. It's going to be very interesting.
To me, the most interesting thing is are we sort of setting up a caricature of these people? If you're the Roman catholic in Pennsylvania, who is, say, out of work, you've lost your manufacturing job, do you view yourself as a Catholic, who is a little bit chagrined by John Kerry's views on stem cell research? Or do you view yourself as someone who is desperate to get a job again, who is not terribly happy with your perception of the president's handling of the economy. HEMMER: In 2000, 25 percent of those who voted were Roman Catholics.
WARREN: Right.
HEMMER: So you're suggesting now that this vote could be split this year?
WARREN: I'm suggesting that it's really kind of tricky what yourself image is, how you go and vote. Are you going to vote as a Catholic? Are you doing to vote as a Catholic? Are you going to vote as someone who's looking for a job, or are you going to vote, for instance, in a state like Oregon, or Michigan or Ohio, which have these gay marriage-ban referendums as someone who's intrigued by that issue?
HEMMER: And you saw what happened when that referendum was in the state of Missouri.
What do you got there? Are we getting to that part just yet?
O'BRIEN: You can't ask me another question. Going to go back.
HEMMER: OK, wonderful. Thank you for that.
O'BRIEN: I've got one for you guys as well.
HEMMER: What do you hear from your radio call-in folks?
O'BRIEN: About?
HEMMER: About the Catholic issue here in Chicago.
O'BRIEN: Oh, definitely a very important issue, because in that last debate, that was the one issue that reduced Senator Kerry to just incomprehensible babbling, and he contradicts himself a lot, but he contradicted himself like four times in 30 seconds. It was really frightening.
PICKETT: You know, I'm not sure about that. I think, as Jim said, you really run a risk of reducing someone to a single factor in their identity in talking about Catholic voters. I think there's a real distinction in terms of people who take their faith extremely seriously, and who consider that a priority in making their voting decision, whether evangelical Christians, or Catholics, or whatever faith they hold, versus folks who are taking a more complex view and looking at themselves in economic terms or in other terms as well. I think those folks...
HEMMER: It is a good discussion. And a lot to consider, and only 11 days left to do it.
Informed, involved, involved, connected, that sounds like AMERICAN MORNING, doesn't it?
O'BRIEN: It does. WARREN: On behalf of the Chamber of Commerce, you know, thanks for showing up here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, we had a great time here.
HEMMER: Well, we've had a great week ourselves, so thank you as well. All right, go get warm. Nice to see you all.
Back upstairs now to Soledad.
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HEMMER: In a moment here, there's a lunar eclipse next week. We're in the perfect spot to get some tips on how best to view it. Some advice from the Adler Planetarium, in a moment here.
O'BRIEN: Plus, Martha Stewart gets creative in the prison kitchen. Andy is "Minding Your Business," just ahead.
Stay with us. You're watching AMERICAN MORNING.
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O'BRIEN: So what goes on here at the Adler when AMERICAN MORNING is not in town? This morning, we are talking to planetarium president, Paul Knappenberger. He's going to show us a little show- and-tell, because of course the lunar eclipse is coming up. We'll talk about that in one moment.
But first, thanks for having us, thanks for hosting us in your amazing planetarium.
PAUL KNAPPENBERGER, PRESIDENT, ADLER PLANETARIUM: Our pleasure.
O'BRIEN: Please, we've enjoyed it very much.
I want to talk a little bit, though, about Max Adler.
Back in the 1930s, a good 20 to 30 years before general public was into science and space exploration, he put a ton of money into building this planetarium. What foresight.
KNAPPENBERGER: He did. He was an officer at Sears Roebuck and Company, and retired in the late '20s, went to Germany, visited the Deutsches Museum, and saw the world's first planetarium, and he said, I've got to have one for Chicago. So he built this. It opened in 1930 on his birthday, May 12th. So next year is our 75th anniversary.
O'BRIEN: You're gearing up for a really big celebration I know.
KNAPPENBERGER: We are.
O'BRIEN: We Has the success of the Mars rovers and the fact that so many people, and especially children, are really following this in the news headlines, at one point, every single day. Has that added to the number of people that come by every day?
KNAPPENBERGER: It has. And we have a full-scale Mars rover model here at the museum. Lots of schoolkids, lots of families have come by and seen it. We also have color 3-D images from the Spirit and Opportunity rovers that we show in our galleries every day.
O'BRIEN: That rover exhibit is great. We're going to take folks inside in just a little bit to show it to them a little bit closer.
For people who want to see the lunar eclipse on Wednesday, first explain what a lunar eclipse exactly is.
KNAPPENBERGER: OK. A lunar eclipse occurs when the full moon passes into the Earth's shadow, and that happens not very frequently, every few years. And so we have a model from our collection. We have one of the largest collections in the world of astronomical -- historical astronomical instruments. And this is called a Tellurian. It was made in Prague in the 1800s.
O'BRIEN: It's beautiful. I notice you wear gloves when you go to touch it, so I'll stand back...
KNAPPENBERGER: Our curators and collection managers tell me I have to wear these gloves to do that. The candle is the sun. And the sun is shining on the Earth, and the moon is orbiting the Earth.
O'BRIEN: So this is our moon here.
KNAPPENBERGER: That's the moon. That's the Earth.
O'BRIEN: You crank it up. As the moon goes this way.
KNAPPENBERGER: Yes, it goes into the shadow of the Earth, and that's the eclipse. That's the lunar eclipse, and then it moves on out on the other side.
O'BRIEN: Will everybody be able to see the lunar eclipse on Wednesday?
KNAPPENBERGER: They will be. Starting -- central time, starting at 8:15, the moon will move into the Earth's shadow, and then it will be total eclipse at 9:20, 10:00 central eclipse, and by 10:40, it starts to come out on the other side of the Earth's shadow.
O'BRIEN: And as you say, it doesn't happen again, I think, until 2007.
KNAPPENBERGER: 2007, but everyone in the U.S., if the skies are clear, ought to be able to see this.
O'BRIEN: What a great opportunity. Paul Knappenberger, thank you again for joining us this morning, and for hosting us this morning.
KNAPPENBERGER: Well, thank you for having me.
O'BRIEN: We appreciate it -- Bill.
HEMMER: Galileo would have been proud. Thanks.
O'BRIEN: You think?
HEMMER: Yes, a break here in a moment. Andy is back, "Minding Your Business," tells us how free trade applies to buffalo wings and waitresses in skimpy outfits. Andy has that, as we continue live in Chicago right after this on AMERICAN MORNING.
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O'BRIEN: Beautiful, isn't it?
HEMMER: Lake Michigan.
O'BRIEN: It's beautiful.
HEMMER: That's where we are today.
O'BRIEN: Yes we are.
HEMMER: Good morning, everyone. Welcome back. Adler Planetarium, our final day in our tour of Chicago this week. Back inside to Jack and Andy. Taking the easy job today, aren't you, guys? You got four walls and a ceiling.
JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: Any way I can get it. Nice and warm in here. Eating those sandwiches. Andy and I are living large.
Martha Stewart is making the best of it in the joint down there in West Virginia. And can it be true we've got an American product that may succeed in the final corruption of the Far East? Andy Serwer is "Minding Your Business." Good morning.
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: That's quite some tease, Jack. Thanks very much.
Let's talk a little bit about the market yesterday. Techs led the charge. Stocks like eBay and Google were up significantly. That's why the Nasdaq was ahead 20 points. You can see there the Dow leading the down side.
Let's talk a little bit about Martha Stewart. First reports coming out of prison, her lawyer was on the "Today" show yesterday saying that she is using her prison time to learn about innovative ways to do microwave cooking. That's where the prisoners prepare their meals. Also, she's been picking crab apples on the grounds of Alderson Prison in West Virginia, learning to respect others apparently, and writing her memoirs on a manual typewriter. She has to buy her own ribbons at the prison store.
CAFFERTY: Don't you wonder if that's all she's been doing?
SERWER: This is all just too much. And I can't read to read the memoirs. I just can't wait. And you know, I guess maybe there's some justice in world, because China send us bird flu and we're sending them Hooters back.
CAFFERTY: Well, that's not -- is that a fair exchange?
SERWER: I think it's a fair exchange. Hooters is coming to Shanghai. And actually, Hooters has got a bunch of stores -- restaurants around the world. They've got one in Switzerland -- my, that's going to be an exciting one. Guatemala -- there's one in Guatemala, as well. Fourteen countries. It started in Clearwater, Florida, in 1983.
And this is an interesting comment from the head of the Shanghai Culinary Association, a gentleman named Xue Yuanqing, who says, "I don't know much about this restaurant, but generally American food is not known for any particular virtues." Well, Xue, it's not about the food. And I think you're about to find out.
CAFFERTY: They're going to go nuts over there.
SERWER: I think it's going to be a hit, don't you think?
CAFFERTY: Oh, it'll be a giant hit. You kidding? Terrific. The divorce rate will skyrocket in -- where is it, Shanghai?
SERWER: Shanghai.
CAFFERTY: All right. Thanks, Andy.
Chicago, once the center of film and TV production for all the wrong reasons. The city's vivid past gave rise to numerous films about Al Capone and the mob in Chicago, as well as violent television series like "The Untouchables," with crimebuster Eliot Ness engaged in weekly submachine gun battles with the likes of Frank Nitti.
It apparently all became too much for a Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley, who ran Hollywood right out of town in the early 1970s by developing a policy that made it almost impossible for filmmakers to get permits to make their movies. But moviemaking's good for the economy -- you know, jobs and all that -- and Chicago's just too rich a location. And eventually, the moviemakers returned and the cataloging of the great stories from this wonderful town resumed.
Here now in "The Cafferty File," a quick trip down Chicago movie memory lane, starting with Alfred Hitchcock's "North By Northwest," shot here in 1959. "In the Heat of the Night" came in 1957. Jack Nicholson's early success "Five Easy Pieces," 1970. And "Silver Streak" with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder -- right...
SERWER: Yes, that's right.
CAFFERTY: ... in 1976. "Blues Brothers," of course, shot here in 1980. So was "Ordinary People," the film that won all those Oscars -- had Robert Redford and Mary Tyler Moore in it -- in 1980. 1983, "Risky Business," the film that launched Tom Cruise's career. John Hughes hit the trifecta in Chicago when he did "Sixteen Candles" in 1984, "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" in 1986, and "Pretty in Pink" in 1987. "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles" debuted in 1987, so did "Field of Dreams," 1989.
Some of the best gangster movies ever shot in Chicago, of course "The Untouchables," 1987. "Goodfellas" was shot in Chicago in 1990. And "Hoffa" -- great film -- 1992, Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito. "Home Alone" was shot here in 1990. 1992 brought "A League of Their Own" with Tom Hanks, Rosie O'Donnell, and one of the most overrated singers in the entire world -- that would have been Madonna. 1993, "Groundhog Day" with Bill Murray -- of course, he's out of Second City here.
In fact, 1993 was a big year for movies in Chicago -- "Rudy," "Sleepless in Seattle" was shot here, along with "The Fugitive" starring Harrison Ford. In 1995, "While You Were Sleeping" with Sandra Bullock. And in 2003, Steve Martin shot "Cheaper By the Dozen" here.
Just a few of the hundreds of films made in the Windy City. Back to you guys.
HEMMER: Jack, did I hear "Sharky's Machine" on that list?
CAFFERTY: No you didn't. And that's a very good point. We missed that one. Tell them why that matters.
HEMMER: We were talking about the other day, right, that they look like corn...
O'BRIEN: Those towers.
HEMMER: ... right?
CAFFERTY: That's what they call them. They're nicknamed the Corn Cobs here in downtown Chicago.
HEMMER: And the back end of the parking lot shows the back end of every vehicle that's parked between the -- floor one and floor 10, right?
CAFFERTY: Right.
HEMMER: Which is a lovely sight, too, by the way. And in that film, one of those cars backed out the wrong way and went into the Chicago River. And now we know. Thank you, Jack.
CAFFERTY: You're welcome.
HEMMER: See you in a couple minutes.
CAFFERTY: All right.
O'BRIEN: Still to come this morning, with just 11 days to the election, one candidate has a surprise edge in a key battleground state. How's it going to affect the campaign? The spin from both sides when AMERICAN MORNING continues from Chicago. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
HEMMER: Good morning. Close races that could bring huge swings in the electoral college. John Kerry and George Bush battling for any edge in just a handful of states.
Police in Boston forced to answer painful questions after a 21- year-old fan is killed during a Red Sox celebration.
And the stranded hikers going home -- what the mountain took away, the mountain has returned -- on this AMERICAN MORNING.
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