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AMERICAN MORNING

Bush Makes Nine-Point Gain With Hispanics; What Will A Second Term Counterterror Agenda Look Like?; Tooth Whitening Most Requested Cosmetic Dental Procedure

Aired November 4, 2004 - 08:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Back everybody. Just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING. Look at that shot of Central Park.
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: It's going to guess nicer and nicer as the leaves change...

O'BRIEN: They've been changing. I drove up the other day...

HEMMER: Little bit, yes, that's right.

O'BRIEN: ... Dutchess County. It was gorgeous.

Well, turning here, the September 11th attacks, as we well know now, defined the president's first term. So, how will he meet the terrorism challenge over the next four years? This morning, we talk about that with a veteran of special ops and military intelligence.

HEMMER: Also this half hour, they listened to, what, 200 witnesses, five months of testimony. Members of the Scott Peterson jury now listening to one another. They'll talk about it as deliberations continue today. And there's a report coming out looking at the jury options and what attorneys are asking them to consider. So, we'll get to that this half hour, too.

Daryn Kagan is with us at the CNN Center looking at headlines there. Daryn, good morning to you.

DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: And it's a pleasure to be with you this morning. Good morning, Bill.

Now in the news -- President Bush is set to hold what could be the last cabinet meeting of his first term. The president is expected to discuss some objectives he mentioned yesterday in his victory speech, including plans to invest Social Security funds in the stock market. The meeting is set to start in about an hour-and-a-half.

Another humanitarian group is pulling out of Iraq. Within the last half hour, CNN has learned that Doctors Without Borders is stopping its activities in Iraq after nearly two years there. The group cites escalating violence in that country.

And in Falluja, U.S. troops are continuing to pound suspected insurgent sites ahead of a possible offensive. Military sources say several barricaded fighting positions were destroyed. Pop star Michael Jackson is facing a new claim of sexual assault. A civil lawsuit filed in New Orleans accuses Jackson of battery and false imprisonment, allegedly during a nine-day period more than 20 years ago. Meanwhile, later this morning, a California judge is expected to rule on Jackson's request to remove the prosecutor in his current child molestation case.

And in New York, money was no object when it came to a Monet. The painting was among dozens of impressionist and modern pieces auctioned at Christie's Auction House last night. This one sold for about $20 million, the highest price tag of the night. The peace captures London's House of the Parliament surrounded by fog.

Sounds like a lot of dough, but Bill, really concerned that the art market might have topped out. There was a Van Gogh, though -- it was expected to go for 12 million, only went for $11.2. Makes you want to cry.

HEMMER: Missed it by a hundred grand...

KAGAN: Yeah.

HEMMER: Daryn, thanks.

Exit polls at CNN show that President Bush made a nine-point gain this time when it came to winning support of Hispanics. That's compared to 2000 four years ago. Ed Lavandera reports today on why so many members of this group, once loyal Democrats, now are changing sides.

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ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As ballots were counted on Election Night, a disturbing trend for Democrats emerged: more and more Hispanic votes falling in the Republican column. Like David Quintanilla's vote -- he used to support Democrats, but now volunteers with the Bush campaign in New Mexico.

DAVID QUINTANILLA, BUSH SUPPORTER: It is because of family values. Faith, honor, respect, integrity.

LAVANDERA: CNN exit poll numbers show President Bush made a significant gain among Latino voters nationwide, from 35 percent in the 2000 election to 44 percent this year. In Texas and Florida, he won a majority of the Hispanic vote.

Even in states where Bush lost the Hispanic vote, he still made gains. In New Mexico, Bush improved 12 points. In Arizona, nine. In California, plus four among Latinos. And in New York, plus six.

Republicans say a conservative social agenda is winning over Hispanic voters.

SEN. PETE DOMENICI (R), NEW MEXICO: Values, values, values -- that's what happened. And I mean -- by values, I mean the things I've been talking about: marriage, family -- they became issues. LAVANDERA (on camera): Many Hispanic Democrats across the southwest grumbled quietly during this campaign that John Kerry simply had a hard time connecting with Hispanic voters, as compared to George Bush, who is often perceived as a good-ole-boy from Texas.

(voice-over): Raymond Sanchez is a veteran of New Mexico politics. He served as the Democratic Speaker of the House in the state legislature for 18 years. He says these poll numbers should serve as a wake-up call to his party.

RAYMOND SANCHEZ: Do not take this group of people for granted. Their values are the same as everyone else's values. So, start talking about the values that we have.

LAVANDERA: The Latino Republican battle cry on the campaign trail has been Viva Bush. That motto appears to have taken a little bit of life out of the Democratic party this year.

Ed Lavandera, CNN, Albuquerque, New Mexico.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HEMMER: Ed, thanks for that,

A reminder to our viewers online, a great Web site for you is getting a lot of attention throughout this election at cnn.com. It's comprehensive. It is thorough. It is complete. You can check out now all the exit polling we have done over the past two days and find out what tilted in this election. So, there's an awful lot of information for you online. Great place to go. It's cnn.com, and kudos to the folks in Atlanta for putting that together yet again.

Here's Soledad now.

O'BRIEN: Let's take a look now at our special segment. It's called "On Terror's Trail." We stay here at home in the U.S. where President Bush was reelected to a second term, and yesterday once again reiterated the challenge that is posed by terror.

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GEORGE W. BUSH (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: With good allies at our side, we will fight this war on terror with every resource of our national power so our children can live in freedom and in peace.

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O'BRIEN: With Osama bin Laden still at large and a U.S. and Iraqi military attack against insurgents expected soon in Iraq, what will a second term counterterror agenda look like?

Here now, CNN's military intelligence analyst Ken Robinson live for us in Washington, D.C.. Ken, nice to see you, as always.

KEN ROBINSON, CNN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Good morning. O'BRIEN: Let's get right to it. Good morning.

You say President Bush really, in your mind, has two must-dos. One of them is Iraq, the other is the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Why are these first on your list?

ROBINSON: They are first on my list because Iraq will lead to the greater issue of Middle East instability if it's not resolved quickly. The Iraqi Army needs to be stood up, they need to subdue the insurgency, and they need to legitimize the government. Simultaneously, they have got to pay attention and become a legitimate partner in Palestinian peace. And right now, the Arab street does not see us as a fair, equal partner in the process.

O'BRIEN: Moments ago, we were talking about what is expected in Falluja -- an all-out military attack there. Why does what happens in Falluja have a much bigger impact on the overall war on terror?

ROBINSON: Several things. First, there's the issue of the Jihadists, who aren't from Iraq. They must be routed out, because they want to prevent Falluja from participating and Ramadi from participating in the legitimate elections in January. If they can disenfranchise the Sunni minority there , they can set seeds for instability and potentially civil war, because the Shia majority will rule. And Allawi is a Shia.

O'BRIEN: More of Osama bin Laden's previously unpublished messages came out on Monday. And he said -- really he was gloating over the economic harm that was caused by 9/11 and said that the goal is to bleed America to the point of bankruptcy.

Do you think that this is more of the same actually, or is this some kind of a new strategy?

ROBINSON: I think it's more of the same. I think it was a shock to them that the towers fell. They certainly didn't anticipate that the Bush administration would go into Afghanistan and rout them out. They thought they'd would take more missiles. But the unintended consequence of their action is now reaching a trillion dollars, if you look at all the money that's been spent since 9/11.

And so, if they can hit us economically, while also hurting us psychologically, they feel it's a major effectiveness for their goals and objectives.

O'BRIEN: Where do you predict the new fronts, if you will, on the war on terror to be over the next four years?

ROBINSON: We're going to have challenges in Africa, because the al Qaeda has moved into Africa because there are unstable states there. They are moving their money into blood diamonds and then moving them throughout the world. The other area is Malaysia and Indonesia with Abu Sayyaf's group in the Philippines and with the Jama'a Islamia group in Malaysia, who are affiliated with al Qaeda and are working toward their larger objectives of instability. O'BRIEN: A lot for the president to do in the next four years. Ken Robinson joining us this morning, CNN's military intelligence analyst. Thanks, Ken. Nice to see you.

ROBINSON: Thank you.

O'BRIEN: Bill?

HEMMER: About 22 minutes now before the hour. A California jury deciding the fate of Scott Peterson now, accused of killing his wife and their unborn son. Jurors started deliberations yesterday afternoon, and they will be sequestered for that.

Here's Chris Lawrence now in California.

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CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They've listened to nearly 200 witnesses over 23 weeks, but now the only voices that matter to this jury are their own.

JUDGE ALFRED DELUCCHI, SAN MATEO COUNTY: The only time you can discuss this case is when you are back in the jury room.

LAWRENCE: There was no murder weapon or cause of death. So, the jury will decide based on circumstantial evidence.

JIM HAMMER, FMR. PROSECUTOR: Jurors don't like to leave a jury room with questions unanswered, and there are questions they will never know in this case.

LAWRENCE: Such as when, where, and even how Laci died. But some legal experts say the biggest question is one the defense failed to answer.

DEAN JOHNSON, LEGAL ANALYST: How could it be that these two bodies washed up within a stone's throw of where Scott Peterson was fishing?

LAWRENCE: The defense argued that Peterson showed no physical signs that could even be consistent with a struggle, but prosecutor Rick Distaso said Peterson's own words, as he explained a fishing accident, contradicted that.

JOHNSON: And then he played the tape of Scott Peterson himself going, look, look at the scratches and scars on my hands. I cut my hands that day.

LAWRENCE: In his closing arguments, Defense Attorney Mark Geragos told jurors they can't convict Peterson because they don't like him and said the case comes down to evidence versus emotion.

(on camera): Peterson is charged with two counts of murder: one for his wife, who was eight months pregnant, and another for his unborn son. The jury will decide whether to acquit him or, if guilty, whether it's in the first or second degree. Chris Lawrence, CNN, Redwood City, California.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

HEMMER: Again, deliberations continue today, starting at 9:00 a.m. west coast time. That's noon on the east coast -- Soledad?

O'BRIEN: Weather now, and Chad Myers again at the CNN Center for us. Hey, Chad. Good morning, again.

(WEATHER REPORT)

O'BRIEN: In a moment here, you paid for the food and the in- flight movie. One airline is now betting that you've got a little more money to burn. Andy's got that story in a moment here.

SERWER: Plus, lots of folks want a brighter, whiter teeth, but you could go too far, and actually there are some serious risks. We'll explain as we continue in a moment.

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HEMMER: In medical news today, a bright smile can make you look like a million bucks. And Americans are now spending billions to keep their pearly whites. But as Dr. Sanjay Gupta tells us today, when it comes to teeth whitening, you can go too far.

Here's Sanjay.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whiter teeth after just three days, full results in seven.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): TV commercials and magazine ads promise sparkling white smiles. And who doesn't want that. But for some, teeth whitening has become an obsession.

JESSICA NEFF, TEETH WHITENING "JUNKIE": I tried the Tray and Gel and Systems in Office (ph). I've done the Rembrandt gel and toothpaste. I've done the Crest white strips. I just tried the new Oral-B White Strips, and the paint-on brush that you use.

GUPTA: And fueling Jessica's fascination with teeth whitening, shows like "The Swan" and "Extreme Makeover." And of course the desire to make a dazzling first impression. She is part after growing numbers of consumers referred to as teeth-whitening junkies, people who excessively bleach.

DR. JONATHAN LEVINE, AESTHETIC DENTIST: The manufacturer says use it for two weeks, morning and night, twice a day, or 10 days every day. That doesn't mean doubling up on it and use it for three months.

GUPTA: Once a treatment that was only administered by dentist, cheap and easy at-home products have transformed it into a relatively safe and effective beauty regimen for millions of Americans.

(on camera): But abusing these products might be harmful, causing gum irritation, oversensitivity, and in some cases irreversible damage.

LEVINE: You're breaking down the structural integrity of the tooth. These people will be prone to fractures, and they're going to need some type of long-term restorations to restore the tooth that the whitening broke down from the inside.

GUPTA (voice-over): Ironically, excessive bleaching can turn pearly whites into an unnatural translucent blue. Some simple guidelines can help to avoid this permanent damage from at-home whitening. Follow the directions, especially length and frequency of use. Use concentrations lower than 7 percent hydrogen peroxide. Look for hydrogen peroxide instead of carbamide peroxide ingredients. Steer clear of online products, which are mainly unregulated by the FDA, and of course talk to your dentist before starting any whitening regimen.

As far as Jessica goes, she's still obsessed with white teeth, but she does check with her dentist regularly. and together they keep that smile sparkling.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

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HEMMER: According to the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry, tooth whitening is the most requested cosmetic dental procedure in the country, spending billions on it, too -- Soledad.

O'BRIEN: Still to come, you've heard of couch potatoes, but what's a mouse potato. A vocabulary lessen from Toure is ahead. That'll be interesting. Stay with us. A mouse potato.

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O'BRIEN: There's news this morning of cutbacks at one of the country's largest airline. Also, another diversion for bored passengers on long flights. Andy Serwer's "Minding Your Business" this morning.

What do you want to start with?

SERWER: Let's do a little markets, first of all. I think it's fair to say the market will probably be catching its breath after yesterday's session. The Dow was up over a 100 points, Nasdaq also up very nicely, S&P up as well. Some jobless claims out this morning that were better than expected, and we have the first big economic news after the election coming out tomorrow, which will be the jobs report for the months of October. So we'll be watching that. Futures are mixed this morning.

As far as these airlines go. A couple great quotes from airline executives we'll get to. First of all, start with American Airlines, saying it's going to layoff a thousand workers. Where have we heard this before? Lost $200 million in the third quarter. Expects to lose more in the fourth quarter, say it's going to pay $500 million more for fuel in the fourth quarter than it did last year. And American's CEO Gerard Arpey, in kind of a rare dig at another company, said we'd be doing just fine if we weren't giving all our money to Exxon. You don't usually hear things like from that CEOs, but you know, I mean, he means it metaphorically.

HEMMER: Oil per barrel is what?

SERWER: Well, still around 50 right now, but jet fuel is, you know, obviously way up, along with price of gasoline Americans pay to put in their cars.

Let's talk about gambling, in-flight gambling, Soledad. What do you think?

O'BRIEN: That's a way to spend time.

SERWER: It sure is.

O'BRIEN: I'm not a gambler, I'm cheap.

SERWER: Well, listen, Ryanair, which is the discount carrier out of Dublin, is experimenting, looking into in-flight gambling. And the CEO of this company says, well, you know, the rules of about gaming in Europe don't apply, because we're flying in international waters. Actually, I think, you are flying in international airspace. But...

O'BRIEN: That's a little concerning, isn't it?

SERWER: But anyway...

O'BRIEN: OK, maybe not flying that airline.

SERWER: They're still looking into it at this point. I think he meant international airspace.

HEMMER: Are they serving drinks at those poker games?

SERWER: Yes, a lot.

(CROSSTALK)

SERWER: He didn't mean it. He didn't mean it.

O'BRIEN: Let's hope not.

SERWER: Let's hope not.

HEMMER: Do we have time for this, or not?

SERWER: Well, yes, we can hold it up, yes.

O'BRIEN: We're going to make time.

SERWER: This is huge.

O'BRIEN: Have you read this?

SERWER: I have read that.

O'BRIEN: Look at the cover story in "Fortune."

HEMMER: Not just the cover story. But Andy, he's talking to...

O'BRIEN: And look at the name right here, Andy Serwer.

SERWER: I'm doing something in my spare time.

O'BRIEN: Really? All that free time you have. "America's Richest Family," this is a look at Sam Walton's family. Right, and we'll be talking about that next week, and it's A lot of work and a lot of fun, and I hope people enjoy it.

HEMMER: But the point is the Walton family doesn't talk to anyone.

SERWER: Well, that's true. It took me a long time to get them.

HEMMER: And you have reached them.

O'BRIEN: Have as much money as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett combined.

SERWER: Yes.

TOURE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So this is a journalistic coup for you to get them to talk to you.

SERWER: Well, you said it.

O'BRIEN: Enough, enough, stop, already. Please, no more, no more.

HEMMER: Well done, Andy. Congratulations to you.

"The Cafferty File" is on vacation. You miss it already. But the Toure experience still rolling on.

SERWER: Are you experienced?

TOURE: So for show and tell this morning, I brought some new words, real words that are entering the language, because English is not static. It's constantly growing and changing. As society grows and changes, new words come in.

For example, lots of people have replaced the time they spend zoning out in front of the TV with time spent online, thus instead of calling them couch potatoes, we can call them mouse potatoes, people that are always on the Internet. I'm one of those.

What did you do last night? Oh, I was a total mouse potato, reading all the blogs. Blogs, of course, are those online diaries about whatever the blogger chooses to focus on. They link to each other and talk back and forth, so there's a real community of the blogs. So the "blogosphere" is the collective world of the blogs. Using it in a sentence, the news flew through the blogosphere, as all the bloggers had something to say about the election.

Switching gears away from the Internet, a word we can all make use of is "baggravation." That's what you feel at the airport when your bag comes off the plane last.

O'BRIEN: Oh, it's not just when you couldn't find a handbag to go with your outfit.

SERWER: Well, that's another sort.

TOURE: How was your flight? Oh, the flight was cool, but then I had major baggravation.

Another great word that Andy knows about "protire," which means to retire upwards, as in leaving your job to make your life better, to do something that nourishes your soul. He's protiring from the firm to join the Peace Corps because money ain't everything.

SERWER: Well, it's a lot, but OK, I see your point.

TOURE: Another great word for the ladies in the house, "shopgrifting." That's when you buy an expensive dress, or shirt or something, wear it and then return it.

O'BRIEN: That's nasty.

TOURE: That's true, though. She couldn't afford the Gucci dress, but she had to have it to win his heart, so she planned to shopgrift.

And finally, when have you sex following an epic disaster...

(CROSSTALK)

O'BRIEN: A young visitor here in the studio, by the way.

TOURE: "Apocalypse sex." That's what we call it. So after the Yankee's lost, the two were devastated and fell into a bout of apocalypse sex to save themselves.

SERWER: OK.

HEMMER: Is Rita watching today?

TOURE: Yes, she is, baby.

Hello, Rita.

O'BRIEN: Cover her ears. Cover her ears.

Those were very funny.

HEMMER: Thank you.

A break here.

In a moment, President Bush four more years in the White House. In a moment, what we can expect in the next term. A live report from the White House and Washington as we roll on after this.

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COLLINS: Still to come this morning, behind the scenes in the Kerry camp the day after the election. Who wanted to keep fighting for the votes in Ohio and who said it was time to concede. A look at that ahead as we continue here on AMERICAN MORNING.

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