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Holiday Travel; New York Man Fights Back; '90-Second Pop'
Aired November 24, 2004 - 07:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome back, everybody. It's just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING.
In just a moment, we're going to get you back to what could be a nightmare travel day today. Chad is standing by for another weather forecast for us. Also we have a report on some of the more unexpected reasons for missing a flight. Perhaps, say, the airport ran out of gas?
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Oh!
O'BRIEN: Oh, yes, that's it.
HEMMER: That will do it.
Also in a few minutes here, we'll meet a man named Robert O'Neal, a New Jersey father who say he's was mugged outside of his home. When the men threatened his daughter, he says he acted on instinct. A remarkable and violent story follows, and he'll tell it coming up here in a few moments.
O'BRIEN: Yes, it's pretty incredible.
HEMMER: Yes.
O'BRIEN: Heidi with us this morning, up right up here. Nice to have you.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, well, thank you, instead of being way over there.
O'BRIEN: You're closer, yes.
COLLINS: It still feels far away.
O'BRIEN: Does it?
COLLINS: Straight now to the news, though, everybody.
U.S.-led forces in Iraq are expanding an offensive in an area south of Baghdad known as the Triangle of Death. The new mission is the opening of a third front in Iraq after Falluja and Mosul. Some 5,000 troops taking part in the new operation aimed at stamping out the insurgency ahead of the January elections.
Family members of two of the victims in the Wisconsin hunters' shootings are expected to speak out in a news conference this afternoon. In the meantime, some questions linger over who fired the first shot on Sunday. The suspect in the shootings, Chai Vang, told investigators the group of hunters fired at him first and missed. And a survivor of the shooting is disputing that claim. Six deer hunters were killed in the incident.
The FDA is tightening restrictions on the severe acne medication, Accutane. And anyone who prescribes or uses the medication will be registered in a central database. Women will also have to prove they are not pregnant before taking the drug because of its link to birth defects. The moves comes after an agency scientist cited Accutane as one of five drugs on the market with possible health risks.
And two fans are suing three Indiana basketball players now over last Friday's game brawl. The fans say they were injured. One of the fans is claiming players Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson assaulted him. The other says he was hit by Jermaine O'Neal and then knocked unconscious by a thrown chair. Meantime, the NBA Players Union is appealing the suspension of the three players.
We heard from Ron Artest yesterday. He says he doesn't think he should have been thrown out for an entire season.
HEMMER: So those cases only took four days, right?
O'BRIEN: I was going to say, I'm surprised it took so long for those people to run to their lawyers' offices and file lawsuits.
COLLINS: Yes, what a nightmare.
O'BRIEN: How much money do you think they're going to get?
COLLINS: The whole thing, I don't know.
HEMMER: You know, the one fan, John Green (ph), the guy with the white hate on...
COLLINS: Right.
HEMMER: ... behind Artest, he was on with Larry King last night...
COLLINS: Yes.
HEMMER: ... for about 20 minutes or so. We'll play some of that interview a it later this morning.
O'BRIEN: He's the guy who allegedly...
HEMMER: Fully defending himself, as you would imagine. So we're going to hear from him.
O'BRIEN: Millions of dollars is going to change hands in that. Millions.
COLLINS: That's for sure. O'BRIEN: That's my prediction anyway. Thanks, Heidi.
Well, many of the roads in the nation and the airports as well are already busy with travelers who are heading to friends and family for Thanksgiving. We've got some pictures to show you now from Chicago, where the traffic appears to be moving just fine on 294. But let's remind you, it's still pretty early, just 6:30 a.m. local time there. In just a moment, we're going to hear from Deb Feyerick. She's keeping an eye on the airports from New York. Hey, Debt. But first, we begin with Chad Myers at the CNN center with details about some pretty bad weather elsewhere.
(WEATHER REPORT)
More than four and a half million people are expected to fly this holiday weekend. Airports around the country are already hopping with some eager travelers, including New York's LaGuardia Airport, and that is where we find Deborah Feyerick. She's there this morning for us.
Hey, Deb, good morning.
DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Soledad.
Well, we've got a couple of numbers for you. In the last hour, we have seen eight people sprinting to the gate, one very angry woman on a cell phone, and dozens of extremely sleepy toddlers, all part of the day. The departure board is not showing too many delays. Most planes leaving from LaGuardia on time, as people try to make the best of it.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
FEYERICK (voice over): When it comes to holiday travel, the only guarantee is there are no guarantees. Just ask Mr. and Mrs. Black. Each are taking extra days off work.
NAARA BLACK, AIR TRAVELER: The last time we flew back, the whole day was pushed to the next traveling day. So just in case.
FEYERICK: The Waldmoes from northern Virginia learned what waiting around feels like.
ANGELA WALDMOE, AIR TRAVELER: We started at 5:30 this morning at United Airways, and we were supposed to go in to Charlotte, North Carolina. And then we were going to go to the Virgin Islands. But all of that got backed up because the Norfolk International Airport lost fuel.
FEYERICK: Excuse me, what?
TODD WALDMOE, AIR TRAVELER: None of the airlines in Norfolk had any fuel. Imagine that. I think a guy was on vacation and somehow they missed a fuel status report or whatever, and they had no fuel.
FEYERICK: The Norfolk Airport confirmed airlines there did run out. A spokesperson saying it's never happened before. Back in New York, college senior Chris Petrosino was busy strategizing how to make a challenging day a little less challenging.
CHRIS PETROSINO, AIR TRAVELER: Well, I'm here three hours early. My flight isn't until 3:00. So I was dreading the rush. But I guess I beat it.
FEYERICK: Though Kansas resident Pat Bolin and his daughter, Daisy, made it to New York OK, Mrs. Bolin wasn't as lucky.
PAT BOLIN, AIR TRAVELER: My wife's flight comes in three hours late, so we're going to be spending a little time here at the airport.
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FEYERICK: And spending a little time at the airport is what a lot of people are doing. Some folks have hunkered down at the food court just waiting for their planes. They, too, like Chris Petrosino, tried to leave plenty of time, not only to get here, but also go get through the gates.
The TSA is reporting several minutes of delays of people here making their way to their gates. The FAA is saying that they're experiencing delays actually out at the Philadelphia airport. So in any event, just grin and bear it. Tomorrow should be a better day -- Soledad.
O'BRIEN: And, Deb, I've got to guess that that count that you had, one angry woman on a cell phone, is going to go much higher by the end of the day.
FEYERICK: I bet you're right.
O'BRIEN: Deb Feyerick for us at LaGuardia. Thanks, Deb. Appreciate it -- Bill.
HEMMER: It's about 22 minutes now before the hour, Soledad.
A New Jersey man was robbed by four men on Sunday night as he and his two teenage daughters were returning home from the movies. He did not take this, though, lying down. What happened next is a bizarre twist of events, ending with one dead suspect, two behind bars, and one still on the run.
Robert O'Neal is with us today and his two daughters, Ashley and Laveda (ph), with us in the studio here in New York.
And good morning to all three of you.
ROBERT O'NEAL, ATTACKED MUGGERS: Good morning.
HEMMER: You guys up over there? Yes, OK. Let's talk about Sunday night. You were coming home from the movies. And what happened when you arrived at home?
R. O'NEAL: I saw a vehicle slow down and follow my car. As my daughters exited the car, I noticed he did a slow drive-by and stopped two or three doors down. My girls got out the car and were entering the house. And the suspects had gotten out of their vehicle and were coming around the corner, talking loudly.
I thought they were kids from the neighborhood. I went back to retrieve my wallet, and one of them attempted to go up the porch. I said something to him. Another one distracted me. And the next thing I knew I had a gun in my face, and he threatened to kill me and hurt my girls.
HEMMER: How did he threaten to hurt your daughters?
R. O'NEAL: They said they would do bad things, "We'll rape your girls."
HEMMER: And where were you at that point, Ashley?
ASHLEY O'NEAL, 17 YEARS OLD: At this point, I was in my room. Her and I had heard somebody screaming and yelling, and we looked at each other, and then we ran downstairs to see what was going on. And when we got to the door, we heard our dad say, "Go in the house, lock the doors, lock the doors, lock the doors." And I've never seen my father go into a panic like that. So we did that immediately.
HEMMER: Laveda, a lot of what happened outside, you guys did not see, based on my understanding, is that right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
HEMMER: OK. you're back outside. You make a decision to go after these four suspects. You hop in your car. You go down the road. Shots are fired. What happened after that?
R. O'NEAL: It was all a blur. I was just simply attempting to get a license tag number so the police could bring the suspects to justice. I had no idea that it would unfold the way it did. I mean, shots -- they shot at my vehicle. I ducked under the dashboard and struck their vehicle. They kept moving. I kept moving. The cars kept moving, and everything just happened in blur.
HEMMER: So things are unfolding very quickly.
R. O'NEAL: Very quickly.
HEMMER: And one of the suspects ends up underneath your car dead.
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: How did that happen?
R. O'NEAL: In my estimation, he exited the vehicle as I was trying to gain control of my car. I looked up, I saw the suspect, I saw a silver-plated gun. I ducked under my dashboard again. And when my vehicle came to a halt on the other side of the highway, I looked around. I didn't see anybody. I thought they had all escaped. HEMMER: Why did you make the decision to go after them? They had your wallet. But in your wallet was what? Credit cards?
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: Driver's license?
R. O'NEAL: Driver's license.
HEMMER: No cash.
R. O'NEAL: No.
HEMMER: That's a heck of a decision you made.
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: Why did you do it?
R. O'NEAL: Well, you know, this happens all the time and nobody does -- the police need the information in order to bring these criminals to justice. All I was attempting to do was get a license tag number and call from a cell phone so that the police could arrest these guys. I had no idea it was going to unfold the way it did.
HEMMER: You have not been charged.
R. O'NEAL: No.
HEMMER: Do you think you will?
R. O'NEAL: I don't know yet. I'm apprehensive about it.
HEMMER: There is still one suspect on the run. Have police told you about his whereabouts or if they're close to arresting him?
R. O'NEAL: They're attempting to, of course, to find him. The Trenton police did a good job.
HEMMER: Yes.
R. O'NEAL: The same thing happened in Woodbury (ph) a couple days ago.
HEMMER: In New York?
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: I know yesterday on the phone you told me you don't want to be a hero.
R. O'NEAL: No, I'm no hero.
HEMMER: But you're trying to stress a point. And the point you're trying to stress is to get your story out to make sure that other people are not so passive. Would you recommend people taking the action that you did?
R. O'NEAL: Not that I did, no. But you have to be more active in getting the police the information that they need so that these people can be arrested immediately. If you see something happen, get the information that's necessary to the authorities as quickly as possible. Any delay could cost somebody a life.
HEMMER: Ashley, what do you think of your father?
A. O'NEAL: Well, he's always been a hero in my eyes. I mean, pretty much America is seeing what her and I see all the time.
HEMMER: Laveda?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pretty much the same thing.
HEMMER: What she said, huh?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
HEMMER: Listen, thanks for coming in. I know you have another young son, who is headed to Iraq in a couple of months.
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: We wish you the best as well.
R. O'NEAL: Thank you.
HEMMER: Thanks for sharing your story, and good luck.
R. O'NEAL: Thank you.
HEMMER: Nice to see you -- Soledad.
O'BRIEN: Still to come on AMERICAN MORNING, one company buys a competitor, then fires its own workers.
Plus, expecting another halftime shocker at the Super Bowl? Don't hold your breath.
And we're keeping our eye on today's travel trouble. That's ahead on AMERICAN MORNING. Stay with us.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
O'BRIEN: Welcome back, everybody. Jack's got the "Question of the Day."
Hello.
JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: Hello there.
The "CBS Evening News With Dan Rather," it's been in third place behind NBC and ABC for a long time. And at the end of the days, boy and girls, in this television business it's all about the ratings. The scandal over the allegedly forged documents provided a convenient excuse to make the change.
Nevertheless, without Rather, the "CBS Evening News" will sail into unchartered waters. He's been in that chair 24 years.
Does Dan Rather's resignation hurt or help CBS News is the question?
Eugene in Michigan writes: "It will be a good thing. He has meant well, served his time, I supposed. But he's been too obviously biased, and that hurt the true news message. People have too many ways to acquire the news today and cannot be prejudiced as in the past with misleading information. In a nanosecond we have all that we need to know at our fingertips, and the day of such anchors is over."
Barbara writes from Atlanta: "It's too bad a journalist with a modicum of integrity is forced to leave the airways, especially at this time when so many of you guys are sucking up to Bush."
Cheryl in New York writes: "Rather hasn't really resigned. He's taking a slightly lower profile and making room for a much-needed fresh outlook from the anchor desk. It's an opportunity for CBS to revamp its evening news and get back in the game."
Jack in Thibodaux, Louisiana: "He did the right thing. CBS will benefit to a limited degree. It will still be imperative that they prove their objectivity."
And J.C. in Chicago: "Internet rumors state that two anchors in the running for Rather's job are two of my CNN favorites: Bill and Anderson. Please, please hold on to them, CNN. It would be CBS's gain and your loss."
O'BRIEN: I've got them. He's not going anywhere. .
HEMMER: I love getting up at 4:00 a.m. What are you talking about?
CAFFERTY: Yes, and doing three hours instead of 30 minutes, right?
HEMMER: Hang out with you.
CAFFERTY: Yes.
HEMMER: Boy!
CAFFERTY: Yes, that's a treat, too. I forgot about that part.
HEMMER: Thanks, Jack.
The nation's largest phone coming trimming down, and it is a big weekend for football. Already the weekend. Here's Andy Serwer "Minding Your Business."
Good morning to you. Turkey day games tomorrow.
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Yes.
HEMMER: First the markets, huh?
SERWER: Let's do that. A kind of dull, sluggish, listless trading yesterday on Wall Street; directionless, too, as you can see here. The Dow up barely. The Nasdaq down barely.
Oil was kind of moving around a little bit. A lot of traders heading for the holidays early. And today is going to even be slower.
Cingular Wireless, now the nation's largest cell phone company, it's bigger than Verizon because it bought AT&T Wireless, laying off 10 percent of its workforce, 7,000 people, a lot of them down in Atlanta-way are going to probably have an unhappy X-mas coming up, and that is bad news. Forty-six million customers Cingular has now.
Let's move on to football. We don't have the anchor screen, but I can tell you, Soledad O'Brien is winning this little contest.
HEMMER: There you go right there.
SERWER: A batting average of 625.
O'BRIEN: Jack, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
SERWER: Then Bill, then Andy, then Heidi and then Jack.
(CROSSTALK)
SERWER: And, Jack, you've got nothing to high-five about over there.
CAFFERTY: I've got nothing period.
SERWER: I know that you...
CAFFERTY: No, I was just responding to my friend, Soledad, here.
SERWER: Oh, OK. And it's funny that the screen didn't...
O'BRIEN: I'm winning, I'm winning, I'm winning.
SERWER: ... work, Jack. And I saw you...
CAFFERTY: Huh?
SERWER: The screen with the rankings didn't work, and I saw you fiddling around in the back room there.
CAFFERTY: That wasn't me.
SERWER: You were piddling around, yes.
CAFFERTY: A miserable performance at best. Terrible.
SERWER: All right, let's talk about the two games on tap tomorrow? OK. Why do the Detroit Lions always play on -- that's the gobbling. The Detroit Lions always play. This is the 70th year the Detroit Lions are going to be playing. And I picked the Colts. Peyton Manning is going to be going for a touchdown record. He's got to do about, what, 35? He's only 13 behind. Who has...
HEMMER: Dan Marino.
CAFFERTY: Dan Marino, yes.
SERWER: That's correct. Carol Costello's Lions, sorry, Carol.
HEMMER: Lions always win on Thanksgiving Day.
SERWER: Actually, that's not true.
CAFFERTY: Would you like to make a friendly little bet on tomorrow's game?
SERWER: That's not true at all.
O'BRIEN: Ooh, this is getting interesting!
CAFFERTY: Let's have a friendly little wager on tomorrow's game.
SERWER: Very smart, Jack.
O'BRIEN: How much money?
CAFFERTY: How much money are we talking about here?
HEMMER: About 50 cents.
SERWER: Very good.
CAFFERTY: Oh, 50 cents.
SERWER: All right.
CAFFERTY: You're going to part with half a dollar out of that anchor salary.
SERWER: Let's move on to the next game, shall we? Do you want to do the next game?
CAFFERTY: Yes.
SERWER: I love that. The Cowboys been playing on Thanksgiving since 1966. They're going to be playing the Bears. And let's see, a new quarterback for the Cowboys, Drew Henson.
HEMMER: It's not going to happen.
SERWER: No.
HEMMER: That's right.
SERWER: He's a failed Yankees third baseman.
HEMMER: All right, 50 cents on that.
(CROSSTALK)
SERWER: OK, we've got that one, too.
CAFFERTY: Yes, I noticed. Deep pockets and short arms.
SERWER: Yes.
HEMMER: Has he annoyed you today? Right there, Jack.
O'BRIEN: Moving -- I'm sorry. Moving on, still to come this morning, Jerry and George and Elaine and Kramer together again for one night only. A look at that's up next. Stay with us.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
O'BRIEN: As we head into the holiday, it is time for our Wednesday edition of "90-Second Pop." The gang is all here this morning. Andy Borowitz, humorist, the big cheese over at BorowitzReport.com.
Hello, big cheese. Nice to see you.
Sarah Bernard, contributing editor for "New York" magazine.
Good morning to you.
SARAH BERNARD, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, "NEW YORK" MAGAZINE: Good morning.
O'BRIEN: B.J. Sigesmund, staff editor for "US Weekly."
Hello, hello, hello.
B.J. SIGESMUND, STAFF EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": Good morning, Soledad.
O'BRIEN: Let's talk about the "Seinfeld" reunion. It's not a reunion.
BERNARD: It's more like a clip show. It's true. But we haven't seen these guys on primetime in a long time on NBC. The thing that's funny about this is everyone's talking about how we're going to get to revisit them. They are on TV four times a day.
ANDY BOROWITZ, BOROWITZREPORT.COM: Eighteen. It's like 18.
BERNARD: Well, 18 in many places. So, I don't really feel like they've ever left. But for people who, you know, want to see what they look like now or whatever, it could be fun. We all know that there is an ulterior motive here going on that is actually to sell the DVD, which comes this week, and for November sweeps for NBC, of course. SIGESMUND: Now, this DVD is going to be the biggest DVD of all time, certainly.
BERNARD: It will.
SIGESMUND: It has the first three seasons are coming out this week. They have something like 24 hours of behind-the-scenes commentary all on these DVDs. They're expecting the sales to be incredible. And why wouldn't they be, you know?
BERNARD: I feel like "Seinfeld" is the new "Star Trek." You know, they're like -- like instead of Trekkies, there are these people that are obsessed with "Seinfeld." They know all of the dialogue. They recite them to each other. So for them, this is going to be the biggest week. And it's funny, because that was just six years ago that the show went off the air. but TV was so different. It was no reality show. It was, like, the sitcom reigned. And it was kind of a -- it's like a quaint little look back into what TV was like.
BOROWITZ: Well, that show is out on repeat so much I'm sort of wondering what you need the DVDs for. But I'm thinking, like, what if the cable goes out? You want to have something for backup.
O'BRIEN: Exactly.
BOROWITZ: You need to have that.
O'BRIEN: Exactly. Let's talk about "Friends." We've got Lisa Kudrow, who is making a comeback, literally, because her show is called "Comeback." It's on HBO, right?
BOROWITZ: Yes. She's doing this. It's a 13-episode commitment on HBO, and it's going to be produced by one of the guys who did "Sex and the City."
O'BRIEN: What's "Comeback" about?
BOROWITZ: It's sort of autobiographical in a way. It's about she's playing a sitcom star who is now trying to make a comeback. So sort of the show is kind of what it is.
SIGESMUND: And, you know, HBO really needs a comeback, too, because they've lost "Sex and the City." They're losing "The Sopranos" and "Six Feet Under." And their current shows, like "Deadwood" and "Carnival" and "Entourage," are just not generating the kind of buzz that HBO is used to. And this is the first half an hour series that they have bought since "Sex and the City."
BOROWITZ: Well, I think what's really going to generate the buzz is that this marks Lisa Kudrow's return to serious television after six months here.
BERNARD: Thank god!
BOROWITZ: So the wait is over. This is maybe even more exciting than those "Seinfeld" DVDs. O'BRIEN: What's the early buzz on it? I mean, I think she's very funny.
BOROWITZ: She is brilliant.
O'BRIEN: So...
BOROWITZ: She is brilliant.
BERNARD: I mean, I think this is a fantastic pairing. I mean, this is almost as good as Donald Trump and Mark Burnett, the two of them together.
BOROWITZ: Right.
BERNARD: Michael Patrick King, the mastermind behind "Sex and the City."
SIGESMUND: And she also she wrote it with Michael Patrick King. And she's a producer. And, you know, she's been wanting to produce shows. She has tried to produce like something five shows in the last year or so.
BERNARD: And she has. She has one CBS and one on EPN. I mean, she is really, I think, the friend that's done the most behind the scenes since the show.
O'BRIEN: Well, good for her. It will be nice to see something replacing "Sex and the City" now.
BERNARD: Oh!
O'BRIEN: All right, Paul McCartney.
SIGESMUND: Yes.
O'BRIEN: So, if he has a wardrobe malfunction...
BERNARD: Oh, goodness!
SIGESMUND: I don't think we'll be seeing any...
BERNARD: My! My!
SIGESMUND: Yes. We're not going to see any...
O'BRIEN: That might be worse.
SIGESMUND: No nipple guards for Paul McCartney. No, we have dealt with the fallout from the Super Bowl scandal all year long.
Oh, really?
SIGESMUND: CBS...
O'BRIEN: Gee, that's all we talk about all the time. SIGESMUND: Fox was fined for showing pixilated nudity in "Married By America." ABC had that thing last week with "Desperate Housewives." A few weeks back ABC's affiliates, some of them didn't want to show "Saving Private Ryan" even.
So, but this decision to have Paul McCartney, the company man for the music industry do the Super Bowl, it's practically a joke, like that you would have this 62-year-old...
BOROWITZ: Because the Muppets weren't available. I'm sure we were going to see "Rainbow Connection." You know, I thought that was...
O'BRIEN: OK, I love that song.
BERNARD: You just spoiled the surprise guest, Andy.
SIGESMUND: Sorry.
O'BRIEN: But as much as you laugh about it, I mean, come on. Paul McCartney, that's huge. I mean, he's...
(CROSSTALK)
SIGESMUND: He did it once before. He did the pre-show just two years ago.
BOROWITZ: Right.
O'BRIEN: Yes.
SIGESMUND: But...
BERNARD: His comeback!
SIGESMUND: Oh, another comeback.
BOROWITZ: I'm going to wait for the DVD.
SIGESMUND: How much older is he than the average CD buyer out there? He's got to be 40 years older than people actually buying and downloading CDs.
O'BRIEN: Well, we wish him luck. So keep your clothes on, Paul. That will be better for all of us.
BOROWITZ: I'll bet he does not perform "Why Don't We do it in the Road," that's my guess. That will not be on the play list.
O'BRIEN: Oh, I'm so embarrassed. OK. I think we'll just stop right there.
BOROWITZ: One too many.
O'BRIEN: I should have taken the rap. You guys, as always, thanks. Bill -- back to you.
HEMMER: Yes, you should have taken the rap, Andy, right on that double yellow over there, Andy, OK?
A break here. In a moment here, top stories.
Also, if you're on the road today, we have the latest travel and weather updates, and there are many. Back in a moment here, top of the hour after this.
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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. Welcome back, everybody. It's just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING.
In just a moment, we're going to get you back to what could be a nightmare travel day today. Chad is standing by for another weather forecast for us. Also we have a report on some of the more unexpected reasons for missing a flight. Perhaps, say, the airport ran out of gas?
BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Oh!
O'BRIEN: Oh, yes, that's it.
HEMMER: That will do it.
Also in a few minutes here, we'll meet a man named Robert O'Neal, a New Jersey father who say he's was mugged outside of his home. When the men threatened his daughter, he says he acted on instinct. A remarkable and violent story follows, and he'll tell it coming up here in a few moments.
O'BRIEN: Yes, it's pretty incredible.
HEMMER: Yes.
O'BRIEN: Heidi with us this morning, up right up here. Nice to have you.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, well, thank you, instead of being way over there.
O'BRIEN: You're closer, yes.
COLLINS: It still feels far away.
O'BRIEN: Does it?
COLLINS: Straight now to the news, though, everybody.
U.S.-led forces in Iraq are expanding an offensive in an area south of Baghdad known as the Triangle of Death. The new mission is the opening of a third front in Iraq after Falluja and Mosul. Some 5,000 troops taking part in the new operation aimed at stamping out the insurgency ahead of the January elections.
Family members of two of the victims in the Wisconsin hunters' shootings are expected to speak out in a news conference this afternoon. In the meantime, some questions linger over who fired the first shot on Sunday. The suspect in the shootings, Chai Vang, told investigators the group of hunters fired at him first and missed. And a survivor of the shooting is disputing that claim. Six deer hunters were killed in the incident.
The FDA is tightening restrictions on the severe acne medication, Accutane. And anyone who prescribes or uses the medication will be registered in a central database. Women will also have to prove they are not pregnant before taking the drug because of its link to birth defects. The moves comes after an agency scientist cited Accutane as one of five drugs on the market with possible health risks.
And two fans are suing three Indiana basketball players now over last Friday's game brawl. The fans say they were injured. One of the fans is claiming players Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson assaulted him. The other says he was hit by Jermaine O'Neal and then knocked unconscious by a thrown chair. Meantime, the NBA Players Union is appealing the suspension of the three players.
We heard from Ron Artest yesterday. He says he doesn't think he should have been thrown out for an entire season.
HEMMER: So those cases only took four days, right?
O'BRIEN: I was going to say, I'm surprised it took so long for those people to run to their lawyers' offices and file lawsuits.
COLLINS: Yes, what a nightmare.
O'BRIEN: How much money do you think they're going to get?
COLLINS: The whole thing, I don't know.
HEMMER: You know, the one fan, John Green (ph), the guy with the white hate on...
COLLINS: Right.
HEMMER: ... behind Artest, he was on with Larry King last night...
COLLINS: Yes.
HEMMER: ... for about 20 minutes or so. We'll play some of that interview a it later this morning.
O'BRIEN: He's the guy who allegedly...
HEMMER: Fully defending himself, as you would imagine. So we're going to hear from him.
O'BRIEN: Millions of dollars is going to change hands in that. Millions.
COLLINS: That's for sure. O'BRIEN: That's my prediction anyway. Thanks, Heidi.
Well, many of the roads in the nation and the airports as well are already busy with travelers who are heading to friends and family for Thanksgiving. We've got some pictures to show you now from Chicago, where the traffic appears to be moving just fine on 294. But let's remind you, it's still pretty early, just 6:30 a.m. local time there. In just a moment, we're going to hear from Deb Feyerick. She's keeping an eye on the airports from New York. Hey, Debt. But first, we begin with Chad Myers at the CNN center with details about some pretty bad weather elsewhere.
(WEATHER REPORT)
More than four and a half million people are expected to fly this holiday weekend. Airports around the country are already hopping with some eager travelers, including New York's LaGuardia Airport, and that is where we find Deborah Feyerick. She's there this morning for us.
Hey, Deb, good morning.
DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Soledad.
Well, we've got a couple of numbers for you. In the last hour, we have seen eight people sprinting to the gate, one very angry woman on a cell phone, and dozens of extremely sleepy toddlers, all part of the day. The departure board is not showing too many delays. Most planes leaving from LaGuardia on time, as people try to make the best of it.
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FEYERICK (voice over): When it comes to holiday travel, the only guarantee is there are no guarantees. Just ask Mr. and Mrs. Black. Each are taking extra days off work.
NAARA BLACK, AIR TRAVELER: The last time we flew back, the whole day was pushed to the next traveling day. So just in case.
FEYERICK: The Waldmoes from northern Virginia learned what waiting around feels like.
ANGELA WALDMOE, AIR TRAVELER: We started at 5:30 this morning at United Airways, and we were supposed to go in to Charlotte, North Carolina. And then we were going to go to the Virgin Islands. But all of that got backed up because the Norfolk International Airport lost fuel.
FEYERICK: Excuse me, what?
TODD WALDMOE, AIR TRAVELER: None of the airlines in Norfolk had any fuel. Imagine that. I think a guy was on vacation and somehow they missed a fuel status report or whatever, and they had no fuel.
FEYERICK: The Norfolk Airport confirmed airlines there did run out. A spokesperson saying it's never happened before. Back in New York, college senior Chris Petrosino was busy strategizing how to make a challenging day a little less challenging.
CHRIS PETROSINO, AIR TRAVELER: Well, I'm here three hours early. My flight isn't until 3:00. So I was dreading the rush. But I guess I beat it.
FEYERICK: Though Kansas resident Pat Bolin and his daughter, Daisy, made it to New York OK, Mrs. Bolin wasn't as lucky.
PAT BOLIN, AIR TRAVELER: My wife's flight comes in three hours late, so we're going to be spending a little time here at the airport.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
FEYERICK: And spending a little time at the airport is what a lot of people are doing. Some folks have hunkered down at the food court just waiting for their planes. They, too, like Chris Petrosino, tried to leave plenty of time, not only to get here, but also go get through the gates.
The TSA is reporting several minutes of delays of people here making their way to their gates. The FAA is saying that they're experiencing delays actually out at the Philadelphia airport. So in any event, just grin and bear it. Tomorrow should be a better day -- Soledad.
O'BRIEN: And, Deb, I've got to guess that that count that you had, one angry woman on a cell phone, is going to go much higher by the end of the day.
FEYERICK: I bet you're right.
O'BRIEN: Deb Feyerick for us at LaGuardia. Thanks, Deb. Appreciate it -- Bill.
HEMMER: It's about 22 minutes now before the hour, Soledad.
A New Jersey man was robbed by four men on Sunday night as he and his two teenage daughters were returning home from the movies. He did not take this, though, lying down. What happened next is a bizarre twist of events, ending with one dead suspect, two behind bars, and one still on the run.
Robert O'Neal is with us today and his two daughters, Ashley and Laveda (ph), with us in the studio here in New York.
And good morning to all three of you.
ROBERT O'NEAL, ATTACKED MUGGERS: Good morning.
HEMMER: You guys up over there? Yes, OK. Let's talk about Sunday night. You were coming home from the movies. And what happened when you arrived at home?
R. O'NEAL: I saw a vehicle slow down and follow my car. As my daughters exited the car, I noticed he did a slow drive-by and stopped two or three doors down. My girls got out the car and were entering the house. And the suspects had gotten out of their vehicle and were coming around the corner, talking loudly.
I thought they were kids from the neighborhood. I went back to retrieve my wallet, and one of them attempted to go up the porch. I said something to him. Another one distracted me. And the next thing I knew I had a gun in my face, and he threatened to kill me and hurt my girls.
HEMMER: How did he threaten to hurt your daughters?
R. O'NEAL: They said they would do bad things, "We'll rape your girls."
HEMMER: And where were you at that point, Ashley?
ASHLEY O'NEAL, 17 YEARS OLD: At this point, I was in my room. Her and I had heard somebody screaming and yelling, and we looked at each other, and then we ran downstairs to see what was going on. And when we got to the door, we heard our dad say, "Go in the house, lock the doors, lock the doors, lock the doors." And I've never seen my father go into a panic like that. So we did that immediately.
HEMMER: Laveda, a lot of what happened outside, you guys did not see, based on my understanding, is that right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
HEMMER: OK. you're back outside. You make a decision to go after these four suspects. You hop in your car. You go down the road. Shots are fired. What happened after that?
R. O'NEAL: It was all a blur. I was just simply attempting to get a license tag number so the police could bring the suspects to justice. I had no idea that it would unfold the way it did. I mean, shots -- they shot at my vehicle. I ducked under the dashboard and struck their vehicle. They kept moving. I kept moving. The cars kept moving, and everything just happened in blur.
HEMMER: So things are unfolding very quickly.
R. O'NEAL: Very quickly.
HEMMER: And one of the suspects ends up underneath your car dead.
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: How did that happen?
R. O'NEAL: In my estimation, he exited the vehicle as I was trying to gain control of my car. I looked up, I saw the suspect, I saw a silver-plated gun. I ducked under my dashboard again. And when my vehicle came to a halt on the other side of the highway, I looked around. I didn't see anybody. I thought they had all escaped. HEMMER: Why did you make the decision to go after them? They had your wallet. But in your wallet was what? Credit cards?
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: Driver's license?
R. O'NEAL: Driver's license.
HEMMER: No cash.
R. O'NEAL: No.
HEMMER: That's a heck of a decision you made.
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: Why did you do it?
R. O'NEAL: Well, you know, this happens all the time and nobody does -- the police need the information in order to bring these criminals to justice. All I was attempting to do was get a license tag number and call from a cell phone so that the police could arrest these guys. I had no idea it was going to unfold the way it did.
HEMMER: You have not been charged.
R. O'NEAL: No.
HEMMER: Do you think you will?
R. O'NEAL: I don't know yet. I'm apprehensive about it.
HEMMER: There is still one suspect on the run. Have police told you about his whereabouts or if they're close to arresting him?
R. O'NEAL: They're attempting to, of course, to find him. The Trenton police did a good job.
HEMMER: Yes.
R. O'NEAL: The same thing happened in Woodbury (ph) a couple days ago.
HEMMER: In New York?
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: I know yesterday on the phone you told me you don't want to be a hero.
R. O'NEAL: No, I'm no hero.
HEMMER: But you're trying to stress a point. And the point you're trying to stress is to get your story out to make sure that other people are not so passive. Would you recommend people taking the action that you did?
R. O'NEAL: Not that I did, no. But you have to be more active in getting the police the information that they need so that these people can be arrested immediately. If you see something happen, get the information that's necessary to the authorities as quickly as possible. Any delay could cost somebody a life.
HEMMER: Ashley, what do you think of your father?
A. O'NEAL: Well, he's always been a hero in my eyes. I mean, pretty much America is seeing what her and I see all the time.
HEMMER: Laveda?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pretty much the same thing.
HEMMER: What she said, huh?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
HEMMER: Listen, thanks for coming in. I know you have another young son, who is headed to Iraq in a couple of months.
R. O'NEAL: Yes.
HEMMER: We wish you the best as well.
R. O'NEAL: Thank you.
HEMMER: Thanks for sharing your story, and good luck.
R. O'NEAL: Thank you.
HEMMER: Nice to see you -- Soledad.
O'BRIEN: Still to come on AMERICAN MORNING, one company buys a competitor, then fires its own workers.
Plus, expecting another halftime shocker at the Super Bowl? Don't hold your breath.
And we're keeping our eye on today's travel trouble. That's ahead on AMERICAN MORNING. Stay with us.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
O'BRIEN: Welcome back, everybody. Jack's got the "Question of the Day."
Hello.
JACK CAFFERTY, CNN ANCHOR: Hello there.
The "CBS Evening News With Dan Rather," it's been in third place behind NBC and ABC for a long time. And at the end of the days, boy and girls, in this television business it's all about the ratings. The scandal over the allegedly forged documents provided a convenient excuse to make the change.
Nevertheless, without Rather, the "CBS Evening News" will sail into unchartered waters. He's been in that chair 24 years.
Does Dan Rather's resignation hurt or help CBS News is the question?
Eugene in Michigan writes: "It will be a good thing. He has meant well, served his time, I supposed. But he's been too obviously biased, and that hurt the true news message. People have too many ways to acquire the news today and cannot be prejudiced as in the past with misleading information. In a nanosecond we have all that we need to know at our fingertips, and the day of such anchors is over."
Barbara writes from Atlanta: "It's too bad a journalist with a modicum of integrity is forced to leave the airways, especially at this time when so many of you guys are sucking up to Bush."
Cheryl in New York writes: "Rather hasn't really resigned. He's taking a slightly lower profile and making room for a much-needed fresh outlook from the anchor desk. It's an opportunity for CBS to revamp its evening news and get back in the game."
Jack in Thibodaux, Louisiana: "He did the right thing. CBS will benefit to a limited degree. It will still be imperative that they prove their objectivity."
And J.C. in Chicago: "Internet rumors state that two anchors in the running for Rather's job are two of my CNN favorites: Bill and Anderson. Please, please hold on to them, CNN. It would be CBS's gain and your loss."
O'BRIEN: I've got them. He's not going anywhere. .
HEMMER: I love getting up at 4:00 a.m. What are you talking about?
CAFFERTY: Yes, and doing three hours instead of 30 minutes, right?
HEMMER: Hang out with you.
CAFFERTY: Yes.
HEMMER: Boy!
CAFFERTY: Yes, that's a treat, too. I forgot about that part.
HEMMER: Thanks, Jack.
The nation's largest phone coming trimming down, and it is a big weekend for football. Already the weekend. Here's Andy Serwer "Minding Your Business."
Good morning to you. Turkey day games tomorrow.
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Yes.
HEMMER: First the markets, huh?
SERWER: Let's do that. A kind of dull, sluggish, listless trading yesterday on Wall Street; directionless, too, as you can see here. The Dow up barely. The Nasdaq down barely.
Oil was kind of moving around a little bit. A lot of traders heading for the holidays early. And today is going to even be slower.
Cingular Wireless, now the nation's largest cell phone company, it's bigger than Verizon because it bought AT&T Wireless, laying off 10 percent of its workforce, 7,000 people, a lot of them down in Atlanta-way are going to probably have an unhappy X-mas coming up, and that is bad news. Forty-six million customers Cingular has now.
Let's move on to football. We don't have the anchor screen, but I can tell you, Soledad O'Brien is winning this little contest.
HEMMER: There you go right there.
SERWER: A batting average of 625.
O'BRIEN: Jack, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
SERWER: Then Bill, then Andy, then Heidi and then Jack.
(CROSSTALK)
SERWER: And, Jack, you've got nothing to high-five about over there.
CAFFERTY: I've got nothing period.
SERWER: I know that you...
CAFFERTY: No, I was just responding to my friend, Soledad, here.
SERWER: Oh, OK. And it's funny that the screen didn't...
O'BRIEN: I'm winning, I'm winning, I'm winning.
SERWER: ... work, Jack. And I saw you...
CAFFERTY: Huh?
SERWER: The screen with the rankings didn't work, and I saw you fiddling around in the back room there.
CAFFERTY: That wasn't me.
SERWER: You were piddling around, yes.
CAFFERTY: A miserable performance at best. Terrible.
SERWER: All right, let's talk about the two games on tap tomorrow? OK. Why do the Detroit Lions always play on -- that's the gobbling. The Detroit Lions always play. This is the 70th year the Detroit Lions are going to be playing. And I picked the Colts. Peyton Manning is going to be going for a touchdown record. He's got to do about, what, 35? He's only 13 behind. Who has...
HEMMER: Dan Marino.
CAFFERTY: Dan Marino, yes.
SERWER: That's correct. Carol Costello's Lions, sorry, Carol.
HEMMER: Lions always win on Thanksgiving Day.
SERWER: Actually, that's not true.
CAFFERTY: Would you like to make a friendly little bet on tomorrow's game?
SERWER: That's not true at all.
O'BRIEN: Ooh, this is getting interesting!
CAFFERTY: Let's have a friendly little wager on tomorrow's game.
SERWER: Very smart, Jack.
O'BRIEN: How much money?
CAFFERTY: How much money are we talking about here?
HEMMER: About 50 cents.
SERWER: Very good.
CAFFERTY: Oh, 50 cents.
SERWER: All right.
CAFFERTY: You're going to part with half a dollar out of that anchor salary.
SERWER: Let's move on to the next game, shall we? Do you want to do the next game?
CAFFERTY: Yes.
SERWER: I love that. The Cowboys been playing on Thanksgiving since 1966. They're going to be playing the Bears. And let's see, a new quarterback for the Cowboys, Drew Henson.
HEMMER: It's not going to happen.
SERWER: No.
HEMMER: That's right.
SERWER: He's a failed Yankees third baseman.
HEMMER: All right, 50 cents on that.
(CROSSTALK)
SERWER: OK, we've got that one, too.
CAFFERTY: Yes, I noticed. Deep pockets and short arms.
SERWER: Yes.
HEMMER: Has he annoyed you today? Right there, Jack.
O'BRIEN: Moving -- I'm sorry. Moving on, still to come this morning, Jerry and George and Elaine and Kramer together again for one night only. A look at that's up next. Stay with us.
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O'BRIEN: As we head into the holiday, it is time for our Wednesday edition of "90-Second Pop." The gang is all here this morning. Andy Borowitz, humorist, the big cheese over at BorowitzReport.com.
Hello, big cheese. Nice to see you.
Sarah Bernard, contributing editor for "New York" magazine.
Good morning to you.
SARAH BERNARD, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, "NEW YORK" MAGAZINE: Good morning.
O'BRIEN: B.J. Sigesmund, staff editor for "US Weekly."
Hello, hello, hello.
B.J. SIGESMUND, STAFF EDITOR, "US WEEKLY": Good morning, Soledad.
O'BRIEN: Let's talk about the "Seinfeld" reunion. It's not a reunion.
BERNARD: It's more like a clip show. It's true. But we haven't seen these guys on primetime in a long time on NBC. The thing that's funny about this is everyone's talking about how we're going to get to revisit them. They are on TV four times a day.
ANDY BOROWITZ, BOROWITZREPORT.COM: Eighteen. It's like 18.
BERNARD: Well, 18 in many places. So, I don't really feel like they've ever left. But for people who, you know, want to see what they look like now or whatever, it could be fun. We all know that there is an ulterior motive here going on that is actually to sell the DVD, which comes this week, and for November sweeps for NBC, of course. SIGESMUND: Now, this DVD is going to be the biggest DVD of all time, certainly.
BERNARD: It will.
SIGESMUND: It has the first three seasons are coming out this week. They have something like 24 hours of behind-the-scenes commentary all on these DVDs. They're expecting the sales to be incredible. And why wouldn't they be, you know?
BERNARD: I feel like "Seinfeld" is the new "Star Trek." You know, they're like -- like instead of Trekkies, there are these people that are obsessed with "Seinfeld." They know all of the dialogue. They recite them to each other. So for them, this is going to be the biggest week. And it's funny, because that was just six years ago that the show went off the air. but TV was so different. It was no reality show. It was, like, the sitcom reigned. And it was kind of a -- it's like a quaint little look back into what TV was like.
BOROWITZ: Well, that show is out on repeat so much I'm sort of wondering what you need the DVDs for. But I'm thinking, like, what if the cable goes out? You want to have something for backup.
O'BRIEN: Exactly.
BOROWITZ: You need to have that.
O'BRIEN: Exactly. Let's talk about "Friends." We've got Lisa Kudrow, who is making a comeback, literally, because her show is called "Comeback." It's on HBO, right?
BOROWITZ: Yes. She's doing this. It's a 13-episode commitment on HBO, and it's going to be produced by one of the guys who did "Sex and the City."
O'BRIEN: What's "Comeback" about?
BOROWITZ: It's sort of autobiographical in a way. It's about she's playing a sitcom star who is now trying to make a comeback. So sort of the show is kind of what it is.
SIGESMUND: And, you know, HBO really needs a comeback, too, because they've lost "Sex and the City." They're losing "The Sopranos" and "Six Feet Under." And their current shows, like "Deadwood" and "Carnival" and "Entourage," are just not generating the kind of buzz that HBO is used to. And this is the first half an hour series that they have bought since "Sex and the City."
BOROWITZ: Well, I think what's really going to generate the buzz is that this marks Lisa Kudrow's return to serious television after six months here.
BERNARD: Thank god!
BOROWITZ: So the wait is over. This is maybe even more exciting than those "Seinfeld" DVDs. O'BRIEN: What's the early buzz on it? I mean, I think she's very funny.
BOROWITZ: She is brilliant.
O'BRIEN: So...
BOROWITZ: She is brilliant.
BERNARD: I mean, I think this is a fantastic pairing. I mean, this is almost as good as Donald Trump and Mark Burnett, the two of them together.
BOROWITZ: Right.
BERNARD: Michael Patrick King, the mastermind behind "Sex and the City."
SIGESMUND: And she also she wrote it with Michael Patrick King. And she's a producer. And, you know, she's been wanting to produce shows. She has tried to produce like something five shows in the last year or so.
BERNARD: And she has. She has one CBS and one on EPN. I mean, she is really, I think, the friend that's done the most behind the scenes since the show.
O'BRIEN: Well, good for her. It will be nice to see something replacing "Sex and the City" now.
BERNARD: Oh!
O'BRIEN: All right, Paul McCartney.
SIGESMUND: Yes.
O'BRIEN: So, if he has a wardrobe malfunction...
BERNARD: Oh, goodness!
SIGESMUND: I don't think we'll be seeing any...
BERNARD: My! My!
SIGESMUND: Yes. We're not going to see any...
O'BRIEN: That might be worse.
SIGESMUND: No nipple guards for Paul McCartney. No, we have dealt with the fallout from the Super Bowl scandal all year long.
Oh, really?
SIGESMUND: CBS...
O'BRIEN: Gee, that's all we talk about all the time. SIGESMUND: Fox was fined for showing pixilated nudity in "Married By America." ABC had that thing last week with "Desperate Housewives." A few weeks back ABC's affiliates, some of them didn't want to show "Saving Private Ryan" even.
So, but this decision to have Paul McCartney, the company man for the music industry do the Super Bowl, it's practically a joke, like that you would have this 62-year-old...
BOROWITZ: Because the Muppets weren't available. I'm sure we were going to see "Rainbow Connection." You know, I thought that was...
O'BRIEN: OK, I love that song.
BERNARD: You just spoiled the surprise guest, Andy.
SIGESMUND: Sorry.
O'BRIEN: But as much as you laugh about it, I mean, come on. Paul McCartney, that's huge. I mean, he's...
(CROSSTALK)
SIGESMUND: He did it once before. He did the pre-show just two years ago.
BOROWITZ: Right.
O'BRIEN: Yes.
SIGESMUND: But...
BERNARD: His comeback!
SIGESMUND: Oh, another comeback.
BOROWITZ: I'm going to wait for the DVD.
SIGESMUND: How much older is he than the average CD buyer out there? He's got to be 40 years older than people actually buying and downloading CDs.
O'BRIEN: Well, we wish him luck. So keep your clothes on, Paul. That will be better for all of us.
BOROWITZ: I'll bet he does not perform "Why Don't We do it in the Road," that's my guess. That will not be on the play list.
O'BRIEN: Oh, I'm so embarrassed. OK. I think we'll just stop right there.
BOROWITZ: One too many.
O'BRIEN: I should have taken the rap. You guys, as always, thanks. Bill -- back to you.
HEMMER: Yes, you should have taken the rap, Andy, right on that double yellow over there, Andy, OK?
A break here. In a moment here, top stories.
Also, if you're on the road today, we have the latest travel and weather updates, and there are many. Back in a moment here, top of the hour after this.
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