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Bush to Canada; Iraqi Election Debate; Pledge of Abstinence; Art of Collecting

Aired November 30, 2004 - 05:30   ET

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(WEATHER REPORT)
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush heads to Canada just a few hours from now. First stop on the two-day trip is Ottawa. Then tomorrow he travels to Halifax, Nova Scotia. The president's main goal to try to patch up relations with our northern neighbor.

The Canadians have been beefing up security ahead of the president's arrival. Some people there are not particularly happy to see him come, and it's not just the public, it's the politicians as well.

Our Judy Woodruff has details.

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JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Some members of Parliament and other Canadians are not shy about showing their less- than-friendly feelings toward President Bush. This lawmaker recently was seen on Canadian television stomping on a Bush action figure. It was meant to be a spoof, but it wasn't the first time she had publicly dissed the president.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are not joining the coalition of the idiots.

WOODRUFF: That helps explain why President Bush will not address the Canadian Parliament during his trip, as most major foreign leaders do. Cat calls from sometimes raucous members would have been a real possibility, as President Reagan found out in 1987.

RONALD REAGAN, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We see such a campaign on our own shores, threatening -- is there an echo in here?

WOODRUFF: It may be more difficult for Mr. Bush to avoid the thousands of anti-war protesters expected to converge in Canada during his visit.

Like the Europeans, many Canadians oppose the U.S.-led war in Iraq and are turned off by what they perceive to be the Bush administration's go-it-alone foreign policy. Two-thirds of Canadians say their opinion of the United States has gotten worse over the past four years. No wonder Mr. Bush is expected to deliver a we're all in this together message to Canadians, particularly on the war on terror.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Looking forward to bringing the greetings of my great country to your great country.

WOODRUFF: Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin is expected to walk a fine line during his talks with the president. He hopes to make progress on trade disputes without appearing too chummy with someone so unpopular with so many Canadians.

PAUL MARTIN, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER: We have a lot of issues to discuss in terms of North America and also in terms of the world.

WOODRUFF: Judy Woodruff, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: A recent poll by Canadian television finds 58 percent of Canadians view President Bush's re-election as a bad thing. Twenty-six percent say it's a good thing. But this is also telling, pollsters asked -- quote -- "I don't like or respect anything that the United State or its people stand for." And 15 percent of those polled agree with that statement, 84 percent do not. A polling executive explains it as Canadians being anti-Bush but not anti-American.

To the war in Iraq now, a car bomb exploded today near a U.S. military convoy in the northern city of Baiji. Four Iraqi civilians were killed, 19 people wounded, including 2 American soldiers. A third U.S. soldier was wounded in a separate attack in Baiji, it on an Army tank.

And there was also a car bomb attack on a U.S. military convoy in Baghdad this morning. It happened on the main road to the city's airport. The military has not released any information on casualties yet.

And outside Falluja, the military has released some detainees taken during the assault on the rebel-held city. The freed men were greeted by family members as they arrived in a nearby town.

Across Iraq, the election debate is growing, should the nation go ahead with the big vote as planned in January?

Our Karl Penhaul reports now from Baghdad.

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KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Shortly before dawn in what's called the triangle of death, U.S., British and Iraqi troops speed up a river hunting for guerrillas. Every day there are many small missions like this, all with a bigger aim, making Iraq safe for January the 30th in time for its first re-elections in half a century.

In a safe house north of Baghdad, these are the kind of people coalition forces are targeting, resistance fighters vowing to derail the vote by force.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): You cannot have elections while we're still under occupation. We can have elections when the occupational forces leave. We don't agree with having elections at this time.

PENHAUL: Even some supporters of free elections agree the time isn't right. At least 17 secular religious and regional parties, some staunch coalition allies, fear Iraqis won't be able to vote in safety.

Shiite Muslim leaders, long oppressed under Saddam, disagree.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): The Shiite political council thinks that the election should be held on time.

PENHAUL: Some Sunni Muslim politicians, once favored by Saddam over the majority Shi'as, don't want elections at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We reject elections under the occupation authority because we do not trust this authority.

PENHAUL: The January election deadline was mandated by a United Nations Security Council resolution and the government won't hear talk of delay. But there are other practical problems. The voter roles based on Saddam's old ration lists. Some citizens have been receiving election registration cards with their subsidized monthly food supplies. In other areas, insurgents forbade distribution of the cards and torched the shops of defiant merchants. This is all that's left of Hamed Belkat's business.

AL-HAJI HAMED BELKAT (through translator): When we got the registration cards, our problems begin. They kidnapped one storekeeper and one or two more shops were burned. They are saboteurs and want no stability for the country.

PENHAUL: Down at this Baghdad teahouse, the political wrangling is these customers first real taste of democracy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I don't know who the candidates are for the elections. I haven't seen the names. I don't even know who to vote for.

PENHAUL (on camera): But maybe such debate and confusion is a sign of progress. Under Saddam's dictatorship there was rarely a vote and only ever one choice.

Karl Penhaul, CNN, Baghdad.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: Still to come this morning on DAYBREAK, a lot of teens are wearing them but these silver rings are more than just a fashion statement. We'll tell you what teens have to say to get one after 38 minutes after the hour.

And the art of investing at 48 after, our very own DAYBREAK contributor Ali Velshi joins me in the studio with some picture perfect advice.

We're looking for your e-mails, too. Our question this morning, should the media play tapes from known terrorists? But first, here's a look at what else is making news this Tuesday morning.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COLLINS: World AIDS Day isn't until tomorrow, but many countries have already begun shining a spotlight on the seriousness of HIV and AIDS. Candles representing South Africa's 660,000 children infected with HIV were lit all across the country. Organizers call them candles of hope.

Meanwhile, in cities across the U.S., teenagers are being urged to make a pledge of abstinence as a way to fight AIDS.

CNN's Monita Rajpal reports from Charleston, West Virginia.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MONITA RAJPAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Both Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson brought abstinence into focus early in their careers, becoming instant role models for an army of young fans. While Britney and Jessica have now taken wedding vows and rings, far away from the celebrity circus in ordinary towns across the U.S. many teens are putting on rings of their own and making a vow of virginity.

(on camera): Here in Charleston, West Virginia, the latest group of teenagers is about to make their pledge as the Silver Ring Thing road show hits town.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sex is great.

CROWD: Sex is great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was awesome.

RAJPAL: Shouldn't you be educating young people about empowerment, self-respect, trying to make sure that they make decisions that are right for them?

DENNY PATTYN, SILVER RING THING FOUNDER: We're empowering them to say you can make this decision. We're saying we don't want you to have a sexy transmitted disease, we don't want you to get pregnant. The only foolproof way of doing that is abstinence.

RAJPAL (voice-over): To some young people who have already experienced sex, the group offers a fresh start through its second chance pledge of future abstinence.

Ashley (ph) was just 12 when she became pregnant and had a baby.

ASHLEY, TEEN MOTHER: Coming to this program was like a brand new world. I could clean my plate off. I could, you know, just start over and I wouldn't have to be labeled anymore that I was a slut or trash or anything like that.

RAJPAL: Studies critical of abstinence programs claim they merely delay sexual encounters for a year or two. And when people break the pledge, many of them don't use protection.

Outside the event, the committed and the curious were getting to know each other. Not everyone was convinced.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think instead of promoting abstinence, don't have sex, don't do this, you should kind of switch around and say you know if you do have sex and you're not married and you know these are the ways you can protect yourself.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're going to find some people that are going to want to you know make that promise, but the majority of teenagers our age, they are just not going to.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you don't have sex you're different, you're the outsider. Like there are few people that don't have sex anymore. So to promote not having sex completely is a tough goal to reach right now.

RAJPAL (on camera): There's a lot of pressure out there, a lot of pressure for young people to have sex. How do you fight that off?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's hard because your friends teasing you, your teammate is bragging about everything they have done, but you make a commitment and it's something you've got to stick to.

RAJPAL: What about educating people about safe sex like contraceptives?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't want to give a mixed message. We don't want to say oh yeah you know we really think you guys are going to wait until your married to have sex, but just in case here you go.

RAJPAL (voice-over): The Silver Ring Thing aims to reach 20 percent of young people in the U.S. within seven years. As founder Denny Pattyn continues his crusade and urges more teens to say no, he finds himself saying sorry.

PATTYN: And I apologize to you for what my generation has done to your generation.

RAJPAL: Monita Rajpal, CNN, Charleston, West Virginia.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: Your news, money, weather and sports. It is now 5:43 and here is what's all new this morning.

A car bomb explodes near a U.S. military patrol in the northern Iraqi city of Baiji today killing four Iraqi civilians. The military says 19 people, including 3 American soldiers, were wounded. South of the city, a U.S. soldier was wounded in a rocket-propelled grenade attack.

Actor John Barrymore, the father of actress Drew Barrymore, has died. He was 72. No information has been released on the cause of death. In money, a California company is giving $5,000 to any of its U.S. employees who buys a gas-electric hybrid car that gets at least 45 miles per gallon. It's a real hot deal designed to promote cleaner air.

In culture, the Sundance Film Festival has named the films that will compete in its 2005 festival that's coming up next month. Documentaries include "Enron's Rise and Fall."

In sports this woman is making history. Barbara Zemann is a banker by trade. Now she's the first female player for a men's hockey team in Austria. She holds a key position too, she's the goalie.

I love that -- Rob.

MARCIANO: Nice. Nice.

COLLINS: Yes.

MARCIANO: Between the pipes, female goal tender.

COLLINS: And she still has great teeth.

MARCIANO: Thanks to the advances of the modern facemask I guess. Hey, that's awesome. And it's hockey season, as you know, and we don't have an NHL, so enjoy football and basketball.

COLLINS: Details. Details.

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MARCIANO: Back to you -- Heidi.

COLLINS: Nice day in San Francisco, all right, we'll remember that. Thanks, Rob.

Gallery owners think art is getting a bad wrap and they are sounding off about it.

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SHARLA BAILEYKIDER, BIDDINGTON'S INC.: People have gotten a little too accustomed to thinking that art is something in a great white space wall or in some museum with gargoyles.

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COLLINS: It's the art of investing. And in just a few minutes, we're going to get some financial advice on how to start and build an art collection.

Our e-mail question of the day is should the media play tapes from known terrorists? Tell us what you think about that.

This is DAYBREAK for Tuesday, November 30.

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COLLINS: Good music on this show.

So are you an art collector? Well it's something you may want to think about, because art is actually proving to be quite a good investment.

DAYBREAK contributor Ali Velshi has more about the art of collecting.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MIKE MCGINIS, PHILLIPS DUPREY: Art is a good investment. The returns can be incredible. And whether you're spending, you know, $1,000 or $100,000 or $1 million, I mean, the recent market has really shown an incredible growth.

ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): According to a study tracking art sales over the last 50 years, investing in art would have given you a 12.5 percent return on your money. Now that's better than the 11.5 percent the S&P would have given you. Want to get started?

BAILEYKIDER: You can start, I suppose, about $1,000 would be a reasonable minimum. If you can go up to $5,000, that's better yet, but that's a reasonable price range.

VELSHI: Sharla Baileykider runs Biddingtons.com, an online contemporary art gallery.

BAILEYKIDER: I've got the paintings in.

VELSHI: She's a broker of sorts, helping people start and build their art collections with the work of professional artists.

BAILEYKIDER: A professional artist these days has gone to art school, has been showing work around at galleries and at suitable venues for a number of years, so that's your starting point. That's your first builder. You don't need a brand name artist, but you need somebody who is not a Sunday painter and somebody who is not a street artist.

VELSHI: But where do you find all of this information?

BAILEYKIDER: There's wonderful art information on the net. And physically, if you're going around town looking at things, it's good to go to galleries. University out across America, university museums often run wonderful, wonderful contemporary art programs.

VELSHI (on camera): OK. So even though it's an investment, it is going to be on your wall. How about something realistic like this? You can have this in your house for less than $5,000. And don't worry if you don't really like that sort of thing. Try something like this, a little more abstract. Probably cost you about the same thing.

BAILEYKIDER: This is how you're going to live with your art. I think people have gotten a little too accustomed to thinking that art is something in a great white space wall, or in some museum with gargoyles, you know. My love of art is to live with it, you know. It's here in the morning with my morning coffee, you know. It's here when the light changes with the seasons. It's a way to look at art. This is how you're going to live with it.

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VELSHI: Now Sharla has her art in her home, in her apartment in Manhattan and she introduces novice artists, novice art collectors to art. So it's a very comfortable setting. One of the issues, and you and I are sort of both transplants here, going down to these art galleries in New York, no matter what anybody says, it's a little bit intimidating. And if I were to walk in and say I'd like to spend $1,000 and start an art collection or $5,000 and start an art collection, I kind of feel like I might not be received so well.

COLLINS: I don't know, I mean they might be nice to you. But I think one of the main points is that's pretty amazing that you can start with just $1,000.

VELSHI: Well that's something because...

COLLINS: I mean she says that's very reasonable.

VELSHI: And well a lot of people see it the same way they see their homes, right? It's not necessarily part of your investment portfolio, but it is an investment. So art is just yet another way of diversifying. Do you go in to beat the stock market, maybe not, but it's something that could appreciate over time or you pass it on to your heirs. Whatever the case is. It can be interesting and you can enjoy it at the same time.

Now you now there's a little business of framing stock certificates, if you want to keep it in the stock market.

COLLINS: There you go, great idea.

VELSHI: Yes, there you go.

COLLINS: All right, Ali, thanks so much for that.

VELSHI: Good to see you (ph).

COLLINS: Appreciate it.

So here's what's all new in the next hour of DAYBREAK.

Now plastic may soon be passe. We'll take a look at some new technology that could prompt you to give your credit cards up forever.

And a jury that convicted Scott Peterson of murder is due back in court today. We'll run down what is and isn't happening with that.

Also today's question. On this day in 1940, what famous TV couple tied the knot in real life for the first time?

From New York, this is DAYBREAK for a Tuesday.

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COLLINS: OK, our history question for the day is on this day in 1940, what famous TV couple tied the knot in real life for the first time? The answer is Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz of course. They eloped on this date and remarried 10 years later because they wanted to have children and didn't believe they were married in the eyes of God. Their first child, Lucie Desiree was born in July of 1951.

Did you know that, Rob? We're going to click on the Web clicks this morning, too. Did you know that about Lucy and Desi?

MARCIANO: No, I didn't know that. I know they were married somewhere close to where I was born, but I'm not sure if it's the first or second time.

COLLINS: Does that make you extra funny?

MARCIANO: Not at all, no. You just asked me a question. I'm not trying to be funny here, Heidi. You know I can't carry this show that's why I'm subbing in here.

COLLINS: All right, let's check on the Web clicks this morning now. What stories are getting your attention on our Web site? Let's go ahead and check it out, CNN.com right now.

First up, Fox Television's "The Rebel Billionaire" starring dare devil Richard Branson. Well that's a good one.

MARCIANO: Have you seen the show?

COLLINS: I have not seen the show.

MARCIANO: I've just seen the promos. It looks good, but I guess it's not doing well.

COLLINS: They're not doing so well. All right, well.

Up next, Michael Jordan's older brother has asked to stay in the Army for a year beyond his mandatory retirement date so he can complete a yearlong deployment to Iraq. Have you seen this one, this is a great story?

MARCIANO: Yes, he's been in the military since he was 19, I think.

COLLINS: Yes, he has. And he is very dedicated to it, obviously, and proud of his brother, but doesn't bring up his brother a whole lot. He's got his own thing going.

MARCIANO: That's a great story. True patriot. Love it. Love it.

COLLINS: Absolutely. All right, Rob, thank you. Osama bin Laden's right hand man wants Americans to know the fight will go on. A man believed to be Ayman Al-Zawahiri appears on a new tape that surfaced at the Al-Jazeera network. In it, the man vows that al Queda's fight will go on until Muslims are treated with respect. He also says the only thing that's important to al Qaeda, U.S. policies toward Muslims.

Time to read some e-mails now. Here is the question of the day as we talked about a little bit earlier. Should the media play tapes from known terrorist?

MARCIANO: You got a couple? I got a couple in my hand if you want these.

COLLINS: Yes, you go right ahead -- Rob.

MARCIANO: OK. One says, yes, keep playing them, they keep reminding us of why we are fighting them and why we should continue to hunt down these animals. And that was from Sharon (ph) in Louisiana.

COLLINS: All right, this one is coming to us from Canton, Georgia. Of course the media should play the tapes, but then they should also be covering the returning coffins of our fallen soldiers. Do we not have a right to know? Are we not told for our own good? Part of the problem today is the growing problem between truth and propaganda between what those in power know and do and what the public truly hears about it.

A lot of talk about that whether or not to air the coffins being brought back.

MARCIANO: Right.

COLLINS: Some people say it's none of their business and other people say they really want to know and then there is the respect for the family members, too. So it's certainly life (ph).

Do you have another one?

MARCIANO: I do. The media should not, this is from -- I can't tell who this is from, somebody who is at Verizon.com. The media should not give these idiots any airtime whatsoever. This is precisely what they want. And when terrorists can use scare tactics against us, the media is playing right into their hands by showing it on national TV.

And that is an excellent point as well. So you know (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- Heidi.

COLLINS: All right. That's right. Thanks to our viewers for those.

MARCIANO: Yes.

COLLINS: We're going to get some more of them a little bit later on. Meanwhile, the next hour of DAYBREAK begins now.

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Aired November 30, 2004 - 05:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(WEATHER REPORT)
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: President Bush heads to Canada just a few hours from now. First stop on the two-day trip is Ottawa. Then tomorrow he travels to Halifax, Nova Scotia. The president's main goal to try to patch up relations with our northern neighbor.

The Canadians have been beefing up security ahead of the president's arrival. Some people there are not particularly happy to see him come, and it's not just the public, it's the politicians as well.

Our Judy Woodruff has details.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JUDY WOODRUFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Some members of Parliament and other Canadians are not shy about showing their less- than-friendly feelings toward President Bush. This lawmaker recently was seen on Canadian television stomping on a Bush action figure. It was meant to be a spoof, but it wasn't the first time she had publicly dissed the president.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are not joining the coalition of the idiots.

WOODRUFF: That helps explain why President Bush will not address the Canadian Parliament during his trip, as most major foreign leaders do. Cat calls from sometimes raucous members would have been a real possibility, as President Reagan found out in 1987.

RONALD REAGAN, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We see such a campaign on our own shores, threatening -- is there an echo in here?

WOODRUFF: It may be more difficult for Mr. Bush to avoid the thousands of anti-war protesters expected to converge in Canada during his visit.

Like the Europeans, many Canadians oppose the U.S.-led war in Iraq and are turned off by what they perceive to be the Bush administration's go-it-alone foreign policy. Two-thirds of Canadians say their opinion of the United States has gotten worse over the past four years. No wonder Mr. Bush is expected to deliver a we're all in this together message to Canadians, particularly on the war on terror.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Looking forward to bringing the greetings of my great country to your great country.

WOODRUFF: Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin is expected to walk a fine line during his talks with the president. He hopes to make progress on trade disputes without appearing too chummy with someone so unpopular with so many Canadians.

PAUL MARTIN, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER: We have a lot of issues to discuss in terms of North America and also in terms of the world.

WOODRUFF: Judy Woodruff, CNN, Washington.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: A recent poll by Canadian television finds 58 percent of Canadians view President Bush's re-election as a bad thing. Twenty-six percent say it's a good thing. But this is also telling, pollsters asked -- quote -- "I don't like or respect anything that the United State or its people stand for." And 15 percent of those polled agree with that statement, 84 percent do not. A polling executive explains it as Canadians being anti-Bush but not anti-American.

To the war in Iraq now, a car bomb exploded today near a U.S. military convoy in the northern city of Baiji. Four Iraqi civilians were killed, 19 people wounded, including 2 American soldiers. A third U.S. soldier was wounded in a separate attack in Baiji, it on an Army tank.

And there was also a car bomb attack on a U.S. military convoy in Baghdad this morning. It happened on the main road to the city's airport. The military has not released any information on casualties yet.

And outside Falluja, the military has released some detainees taken during the assault on the rebel-held city. The freed men were greeted by family members as they arrived in a nearby town.

Across Iraq, the election debate is growing, should the nation go ahead with the big vote as planned in January?

Our Karl Penhaul reports now from Baghdad.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Shortly before dawn in what's called the triangle of death, U.S., British and Iraqi troops speed up a river hunting for guerrillas. Every day there are many small missions like this, all with a bigger aim, making Iraq safe for January the 30th in time for its first re-elections in half a century.

In a safe house north of Baghdad, these are the kind of people coalition forces are targeting, resistance fighters vowing to derail the vote by force.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): You cannot have elections while we're still under occupation. We can have elections when the occupational forces leave. We don't agree with having elections at this time.

PENHAUL: Even some supporters of free elections agree the time isn't right. At least 17 secular religious and regional parties, some staunch coalition allies, fear Iraqis won't be able to vote in safety.

Shiite Muslim leaders, long oppressed under Saddam, disagree.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): The Shiite political council thinks that the election should be held on time.

PENHAUL: Some Sunni Muslim politicians, once favored by Saddam over the majority Shi'as, don't want elections at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We reject elections under the occupation authority because we do not trust this authority.

PENHAUL: The January election deadline was mandated by a United Nations Security Council resolution and the government won't hear talk of delay. But there are other practical problems. The voter roles based on Saddam's old ration lists. Some citizens have been receiving election registration cards with their subsidized monthly food supplies. In other areas, insurgents forbade distribution of the cards and torched the shops of defiant merchants. This is all that's left of Hamed Belkat's business.

AL-HAJI HAMED BELKAT (through translator): When we got the registration cards, our problems begin. They kidnapped one storekeeper and one or two more shops were burned. They are saboteurs and want no stability for the country.

PENHAUL: Down at this Baghdad teahouse, the political wrangling is these customers first real taste of democracy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I don't know who the candidates are for the elections. I haven't seen the names. I don't even know who to vote for.

PENHAUL (on camera): But maybe such debate and confusion is a sign of progress. Under Saddam's dictatorship there was rarely a vote and only ever one choice.

Karl Penhaul, CNN, Baghdad.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: Still to come this morning on DAYBREAK, a lot of teens are wearing them but these silver rings are more than just a fashion statement. We'll tell you what teens have to say to get one after 38 minutes after the hour.

And the art of investing at 48 after, our very own DAYBREAK contributor Ali Velshi joins me in the studio with some picture perfect advice.

We're looking for your e-mails, too. Our question this morning, should the media play tapes from known terrorists? But first, here's a look at what else is making news this Tuesday morning.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COLLINS: World AIDS Day isn't until tomorrow, but many countries have already begun shining a spotlight on the seriousness of HIV and AIDS. Candles representing South Africa's 660,000 children infected with HIV were lit all across the country. Organizers call them candles of hope.

Meanwhile, in cities across the U.S., teenagers are being urged to make a pledge of abstinence as a way to fight AIDS.

CNN's Monita Rajpal reports from Charleston, West Virginia.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MONITA RAJPAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Both Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson brought abstinence into focus early in their careers, becoming instant role models for an army of young fans. While Britney and Jessica have now taken wedding vows and rings, far away from the celebrity circus in ordinary towns across the U.S. many teens are putting on rings of their own and making a vow of virginity.

(on camera): Here in Charleston, West Virginia, the latest group of teenagers is about to make their pledge as the Silver Ring Thing road show hits town.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sex is great.

CROWD: Sex is great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was awesome.

RAJPAL: Shouldn't you be educating young people about empowerment, self-respect, trying to make sure that they make decisions that are right for them?

DENNY PATTYN, SILVER RING THING FOUNDER: We're empowering them to say you can make this decision. We're saying we don't want you to have a sexy transmitted disease, we don't want you to get pregnant. The only foolproof way of doing that is abstinence.

RAJPAL (voice-over): To some young people who have already experienced sex, the group offers a fresh start through its second chance pledge of future abstinence.

Ashley (ph) was just 12 when she became pregnant and had a baby.

ASHLEY, TEEN MOTHER: Coming to this program was like a brand new world. I could clean my plate off. I could, you know, just start over and I wouldn't have to be labeled anymore that I was a slut or trash or anything like that.

RAJPAL: Studies critical of abstinence programs claim they merely delay sexual encounters for a year or two. And when people break the pledge, many of them don't use protection.

Outside the event, the committed and the curious were getting to know each other. Not everyone was convinced.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think instead of promoting abstinence, don't have sex, don't do this, you should kind of switch around and say you know if you do have sex and you're not married and you know these are the ways you can protect yourself.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're going to find some people that are going to want to you know make that promise, but the majority of teenagers our age, they are just not going to.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you don't have sex you're different, you're the outsider. Like there are few people that don't have sex anymore. So to promote not having sex completely is a tough goal to reach right now.

RAJPAL (on camera): There's a lot of pressure out there, a lot of pressure for young people to have sex. How do you fight that off?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's hard because your friends teasing you, your teammate is bragging about everything they have done, but you make a commitment and it's something you've got to stick to.

RAJPAL: What about educating people about safe sex like contraceptives?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't want to give a mixed message. We don't want to say oh yeah you know we really think you guys are going to wait until your married to have sex, but just in case here you go.

RAJPAL (voice-over): The Silver Ring Thing aims to reach 20 percent of young people in the U.S. within seven years. As founder Denny Pattyn continues his crusade and urges more teens to say no, he finds himself saying sorry.

PATTYN: And I apologize to you for what my generation has done to your generation.

RAJPAL: Monita Rajpal, CNN, Charleston, West Virginia.

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COLLINS: Your news, money, weather and sports. It is now 5:43 and here is what's all new this morning.

A car bomb explodes near a U.S. military patrol in the northern Iraqi city of Baiji today killing four Iraqi civilians. The military says 19 people, including 3 American soldiers, were wounded. South of the city, a U.S. soldier was wounded in a rocket-propelled grenade attack.

Actor John Barrymore, the father of actress Drew Barrymore, has died. He was 72. No information has been released on the cause of death. In money, a California company is giving $5,000 to any of its U.S. employees who buys a gas-electric hybrid car that gets at least 45 miles per gallon. It's a real hot deal designed to promote cleaner air.

In culture, the Sundance Film Festival has named the films that will compete in its 2005 festival that's coming up next month. Documentaries include "Enron's Rise and Fall."

In sports this woman is making history. Barbara Zemann is a banker by trade. Now she's the first female player for a men's hockey team in Austria. She holds a key position too, she's the goalie.

I love that -- Rob.

MARCIANO: Nice. Nice.

COLLINS: Yes.

MARCIANO: Between the pipes, female goal tender.

COLLINS: And she still has great teeth.

MARCIANO: Thanks to the advances of the modern facemask I guess. Hey, that's awesome. And it's hockey season, as you know, and we don't have an NHL, so enjoy football and basketball.

COLLINS: Details. Details.

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MARCIANO: Back to you -- Heidi.

COLLINS: Nice day in San Francisco, all right, we'll remember that. Thanks, Rob.

Gallery owners think art is getting a bad wrap and they are sounding off about it.

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SHARLA BAILEYKIDER, BIDDINGTON'S INC.: People have gotten a little too accustomed to thinking that art is something in a great white space wall or in some museum with gargoyles.

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COLLINS: It's the art of investing. And in just a few minutes, we're going to get some financial advice on how to start and build an art collection.

Our e-mail question of the day is should the media play tapes from known terrorists? Tell us what you think about that.

This is DAYBREAK for Tuesday, November 30.

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COLLINS: Good music on this show.

So are you an art collector? Well it's something you may want to think about, because art is actually proving to be quite a good investment.

DAYBREAK contributor Ali Velshi has more about the art of collecting.

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MIKE MCGINIS, PHILLIPS DUPREY: Art is a good investment. The returns can be incredible. And whether you're spending, you know, $1,000 or $100,000 or $1 million, I mean, the recent market has really shown an incredible growth.

ALI VELSHI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): According to a study tracking art sales over the last 50 years, investing in art would have given you a 12.5 percent return on your money. Now that's better than the 11.5 percent the S&P would have given you. Want to get started?

BAILEYKIDER: You can start, I suppose, about $1,000 would be a reasonable minimum. If you can go up to $5,000, that's better yet, but that's a reasonable price range.

VELSHI: Sharla Baileykider runs Biddingtons.com, an online contemporary art gallery.

BAILEYKIDER: I've got the paintings in.

VELSHI: She's a broker of sorts, helping people start and build their art collections with the work of professional artists.

BAILEYKIDER: A professional artist these days has gone to art school, has been showing work around at galleries and at suitable venues for a number of years, so that's your starting point. That's your first builder. You don't need a brand name artist, but you need somebody who is not a Sunday painter and somebody who is not a street artist.

VELSHI: But where do you find all of this information?

BAILEYKIDER: There's wonderful art information on the net. And physically, if you're going around town looking at things, it's good to go to galleries. University out across America, university museums often run wonderful, wonderful contemporary art programs.

VELSHI (on camera): OK. So even though it's an investment, it is going to be on your wall. How about something realistic like this? You can have this in your house for less than $5,000. And don't worry if you don't really like that sort of thing. Try something like this, a little more abstract. Probably cost you about the same thing.

BAILEYKIDER: This is how you're going to live with your art. I think people have gotten a little too accustomed to thinking that art is something in a great white space wall, or in some museum with gargoyles, you know. My love of art is to live with it, you know. It's here in the morning with my morning coffee, you know. It's here when the light changes with the seasons. It's a way to look at art. This is how you're going to live with it.

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VELSHI: Now Sharla has her art in her home, in her apartment in Manhattan and she introduces novice artists, novice art collectors to art. So it's a very comfortable setting. One of the issues, and you and I are sort of both transplants here, going down to these art galleries in New York, no matter what anybody says, it's a little bit intimidating. And if I were to walk in and say I'd like to spend $1,000 and start an art collection or $5,000 and start an art collection, I kind of feel like I might not be received so well.

COLLINS: I don't know, I mean they might be nice to you. But I think one of the main points is that's pretty amazing that you can start with just $1,000.

VELSHI: Well that's something because...

COLLINS: I mean she says that's very reasonable.

VELSHI: And well a lot of people see it the same way they see their homes, right? It's not necessarily part of your investment portfolio, but it is an investment. So art is just yet another way of diversifying. Do you go in to beat the stock market, maybe not, but it's something that could appreciate over time or you pass it on to your heirs. Whatever the case is. It can be interesting and you can enjoy it at the same time.

Now you now there's a little business of framing stock certificates, if you want to keep it in the stock market.

COLLINS: There you go, great idea.

VELSHI: Yes, there you go.

COLLINS: All right, Ali, thanks so much for that.

VELSHI: Good to see you (ph).

COLLINS: Appreciate it.

So here's what's all new in the next hour of DAYBREAK.

Now plastic may soon be passe. We'll take a look at some new technology that could prompt you to give your credit cards up forever.

And a jury that convicted Scott Peterson of murder is due back in court today. We'll run down what is and isn't happening with that.

Also today's question. On this day in 1940, what famous TV couple tied the knot in real life for the first time?

From New York, this is DAYBREAK for a Tuesday.

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COLLINS: OK, our history question for the day is on this day in 1940, what famous TV couple tied the knot in real life for the first time? The answer is Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz of course. They eloped on this date and remarried 10 years later because they wanted to have children and didn't believe they were married in the eyes of God. Their first child, Lucie Desiree was born in July of 1951.

Did you know that, Rob? We're going to click on the Web clicks this morning, too. Did you know that about Lucy and Desi?

MARCIANO: No, I didn't know that. I know they were married somewhere close to where I was born, but I'm not sure if it's the first or second time.

COLLINS: Does that make you extra funny?

MARCIANO: Not at all, no. You just asked me a question. I'm not trying to be funny here, Heidi. You know I can't carry this show that's why I'm subbing in here.

COLLINS: All right, let's check on the Web clicks this morning now. What stories are getting your attention on our Web site? Let's go ahead and check it out, CNN.com right now.

First up, Fox Television's "The Rebel Billionaire" starring dare devil Richard Branson. Well that's a good one.

MARCIANO: Have you seen the show?

COLLINS: I have not seen the show.

MARCIANO: I've just seen the promos. It looks good, but I guess it's not doing well.

COLLINS: They're not doing so well. All right, well.

Up next, Michael Jordan's older brother has asked to stay in the Army for a year beyond his mandatory retirement date so he can complete a yearlong deployment to Iraq. Have you seen this one, this is a great story?

MARCIANO: Yes, he's been in the military since he was 19, I think.

COLLINS: Yes, he has. And he is very dedicated to it, obviously, and proud of his brother, but doesn't bring up his brother a whole lot. He's got his own thing going.

MARCIANO: That's a great story. True patriot. Love it. Love it.

COLLINS: Absolutely. All right, Rob, thank you. Osama bin Laden's right hand man wants Americans to know the fight will go on. A man believed to be Ayman Al-Zawahiri appears on a new tape that surfaced at the Al-Jazeera network. In it, the man vows that al Queda's fight will go on until Muslims are treated with respect. He also says the only thing that's important to al Qaeda, U.S. policies toward Muslims.

Time to read some e-mails now. Here is the question of the day as we talked about a little bit earlier. Should the media play tapes from known terrorist?

MARCIANO: You got a couple? I got a couple in my hand if you want these.

COLLINS: Yes, you go right ahead -- Rob.

MARCIANO: OK. One says, yes, keep playing them, they keep reminding us of why we are fighting them and why we should continue to hunt down these animals. And that was from Sharon (ph) in Louisiana.

COLLINS: All right, this one is coming to us from Canton, Georgia. Of course the media should play the tapes, but then they should also be covering the returning coffins of our fallen soldiers. Do we not have a right to know? Are we not told for our own good? Part of the problem today is the growing problem between truth and propaganda between what those in power know and do and what the public truly hears about it.

A lot of talk about that whether or not to air the coffins being brought back.

MARCIANO: Right.

COLLINS: Some people say it's none of their business and other people say they really want to know and then there is the respect for the family members, too. So it's certainly life (ph).

Do you have another one?

MARCIANO: I do. The media should not, this is from -- I can't tell who this is from, somebody who is at Verizon.com. The media should not give these idiots any airtime whatsoever. This is precisely what they want. And when terrorists can use scare tactics against us, the media is playing right into their hands by showing it on national TV.

And that is an excellent point as well. So you know (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- Heidi.

COLLINS: All right. That's right. Thanks to our viewers for those.

MARCIANO: Yes.

COLLINS: We're going to get some more of them a little bit later on. Meanwhile, the next hour of DAYBREAK begins now.

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