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A Look at "Homegrown Terror"; Allegations Surface Against Cosby
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THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's take a look at what's happening now in the news. A car bombing in southern Baghdad today killed at least 14 people and wounded 42 others. The attack occurred outside a Shiite mosque. Worshipers had just left services marking the end of the Hajj, a Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca. There were also attacks today on a river police patrol in Baghdad and a police station in Ramadi.
We're showing you live pictures of the prayer service at Washington National Cathedral. The service is the last official function of the inauguration. Clergy of different faiths from around the country are participating. Evangelist Billy Graham is there. It's his eighth inaugural prayer service.
A senior government official tells CNN that FCC Chairman Michael Powell plans to submit his resignation. An announcement is expected some time today. Powell has been with the Federal Communications Commission for eight years, the last four as chairman.
And brides take a look at this video. New this morning, desperate for a bargain, these brides-to-be rushed in where others feared to tread. The stampede for low cost bridal wear is going on at Filenes's basement. The store is right here in Atlanta. Good luck, ladies.
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: And now this. In his inaugural address, President Bush called September 11th a day of fire that helped make his mission clear. Since the attack, the nation's attention primarily has been focused on al Qaeda and international terrorism.
But there's another type of terrorism that comes from within. In our continuing series, "Defending America", we investigate homegrown terror. And introduce to you what may be a new term for you. They are called lone wolves.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ (voice over): Abbeville, South Carolina. A town that prides itself as the birthplace of the confederacy.
CRAIG GAGNON, CHIROPRACTOR: There you go.
SANCHEZ: Chiropractor Craig Gagnon is called doc in Abbeville. He got a strange phone call one morning from one of his patients.
GAGNON: She says, Craig, this is Rita Bixby. I just wanted to let you know that it's begun and Steven has shot a deputy. And I said, well, when did this happen? She said, about 15 minutes ago. He came into the house and Steven shot him. And I said, well, how's the deputy? She says, I don't suppose he's doing so good right now seeing as Steven shot him with a .7 millimeter.
SANCHEZ: Hell was about to break loose in Abbeville that day. It wouldn't be just a shoot-out. It would be a family's declaration of war against the government. And Gagnon would find himself right smack in the middle of it.
Because after the call from Rita Bixby, Gagnon and his partner raced to the scene where they found a car with the engine still running, a deputy's car. So when they saw another officer arrive, they tried to warn him, don't go toward the house, Gagnon's partner shouted. It was too late.
GAGNON: And I saw -- well, I heard an explosion from the house. And instantly knew it was a shot. And I heard the glass of the front porch -- after the shot. It was just a weird -- it was almost like it was in slow motion almost.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've got shots fired.
SANCHEZ: What he heard was a second shot. A second officer down. Constable Donny Utz (ph) now laid dying just steps from the Bixby's front door while his fellow officer Danny Wilson (ph) lay dying inside the Bixby home.
Police, even Gagnon tried talking Steven and Arthur Bixby out of the house. It didn't work. They were headed for a showdown, a massive gunfight.
GAGNON: When they finally started exchanging gunfire, you could hear the service revolvers of the agents bap, bap. You hear Steve in the house, boom, boom, boom. There would be an exchange, bap, bap, boom, boom. Bap, bap, bap. Boom, boom.
SANCHEZ: Hundreds, maybe thousands of rounds were exchanged. And it took all that as well as countless canisters of tear gas over 13 hours to get the Bixby's to give themselves up, to be charged with first degree murder in the deaths of the two officers.
SANCHEZ, (on camera): And what was this all about? This small chunk of land. The government wanted to expand highway 72 on to their property. How much property? We'll count it for you. One, two, three steps.
SANCHEZ, (voice over): It was government surveyors preparing that piece of land three days earlier that had apparently set off the Bixby's. But local law enforcement officials are convinced there was more to it. They call it an ambush. A setup against anyone wearing a uniform.
NEAL HENDERSON, ABBEVILLE POLICE CHIEF: Whether it was the U.P.S. man, the mailman, a meter reader, whatever. First person that stepped foot on that property that day was going to get it. SANCHEZ: In fact, in court the day after the shoot-out, Steven Bixby revealed what touched off the family's rage.
STEVEN BIXBY: Why did I do it? We didn't do it. They started it. They started it. And if we can't be any freer than that in this country, I just as soon die.
SANCHEZ: Even though the Bixby's would actually have gained, not lost land, Bixby referred to the government as communist bureaucrat dictators and claimed that he had a constitutional right to revolution.
Bixby: Ruby Ridge, Waco, this country's shown what it is. I love this country, but I just can't stand the bastards in it.
SANCHEZ: The Bixby's brought their defiant and anti-government and pro-property rights stance with them when they moved to South Carolina.
BIXBY: I'm originally from New Hampshire where the motto is "live free or die." They brought the hostile aggression on.
SANCHEZ: Back in New Hampshire, a superior court judge had feared the Bixbys so much; she asked for and received round the clock police protection. In law enforcement terms Steven Bixby is a lone wolf, driven to act by his anti-government views and he's not the only one. Even though the nation's attention has shifted since 9/11 to the threat from al Qaeda, the danger here at home remains enormous.
MARK POTOK, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: Luckily for all of us, up to this point, they have not been as organized or nearly as sophisticated as al-Quada.
SANCHEZ: For now. But here's a question we ask. Who else could possibly be out there who could act seemingly without warning? And who is trying to keep tabs on them and try and stop them before the violence happens?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's not only Osama bin Laden out there. It's not only people with turbans on who are capable of blowing you and your family up. That there are actual real life Americans, people from -- people who are our neighbors.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ: When we come back, you'll hear and see for yourself where one threat may originate and what some are doing to try and stop it. We'll have that for you on the other side of the commercial break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: We want to update you on a story we started following yesterday about Abu Musab al Zarqawi. There are reports that he released a new tape on an Islamic web site urging followers to be patient and encouraging them as the fierce battle does not end quickly.
Also talking that Fallujah should be our front battle and praising those insurgents that have fought coalition forces in Fallujah. National Intelligence sources now say they do believe the voice on the tape on this Internet site is indeed Abu Musab al Zarqawi.
SANCHEZ: Back now to our special report. Before the break, we saw the results of a bloody shoot-out in the small town of Abbeville, South Carolina. Where a man, as you may have seen, said he had the right to revolution and is accused of killing two police officers.
But he and his anti-government family are just part of a much bigger picture. More now on our special CNN investigation on lone wolves and those now trying to track them.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ, (voice over): Investigator Joe Roy watches things that would make your stomach turn.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There isn't a Jew on this earth that deserves to live for what they have done to our race.
SANCHEZ: On this day, he's monitoring a speech from Reverend James Wickstrom (ph) at a neo-Nazi rally.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Jews will go away because they're all going to die. And I say to them with my heart -- what you do with it and how you handle it is strictly going to be between you --
JOE ROY, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: That's the lone wolf.
SANCHEZ: At the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery Alabama, Roy and others keep a constant watch on people who may be driven to act after hearing such hateful language. People who evolve from hate-filled to violent, like Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh, and quite possibly Steven Bixby.
However, since 9/11, the hunt for these types has not been the top priority for U.S. law enforcement.
SANCHEZ, (on camera): Do they ignore domestic terrorism at their own peril?
ROY: Well, sure. I think that anybody that ignores it, it's at their own peril.
POTOK: it is not only Osama bin laden out there; it is not only people with turbans on that are capable of blowing you and your family up. There are actual real life Americans, people who are our neighbors.
SANCHEZ, (voice over): People like William Crar (ph), arrested in Texas with enough sodium cyanide to potentially kill thousands. He's now in a federal prison. And Steven Geordie (ph), arrested and planning to fire bomb abortion clinics.
And what about the anthrax killer? Remember him? The one who terrorized all of us after 9/11 but still hasn't been caught.
SANCHEZ, (on camera): You think that person, that person out there, the anthrax killer is a lone wolf?
POTOK: Yes. I don't think there's any question.
SANCHEZ: (voice over): Mark Potok was a newspaper reporter who joined the center after seeing the carnage that Tim McVeigh wrought on Oklahoma City. Now, he runs the "Intelligence Report", the center's magazine, which exposes extremist groups on both right and the left.
POTOK: What is our aim? Our aim is to destroy these groups, if possible.
SANCHEZ: And they've had success. By working with law enforcement and bringing civil suits against groups like the neo-Nazi National Alliance whose former leader wrote the book that inspired Tim McVeigh.
POTOK: Two years ago these people were all staff at the National Alliance. Every one of these people is now gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone.
SANCHEZ: Security here is tight. For good reason. They've made lots of enemies. Even been firebombed.
SANCHEZ: (on camera): Do you worry about your own safety? Or the safety of this building and the people who work inside here?
POTOK: The reality is that there are close to 30 people in federal prison for various plots over the last 20 years to blow this place up or to assassinate its founder.
SANCHEZ: (voice over): There's something else that worries Potok and Roy these days. It may be a by-product of their own success. While they've managed to splinter or eliminate large, well- organized hate groups, they may have made it harder to keep track of their former members who could be spurred to act after hearing speeches like this one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And give them a holocaust that they rightly deserve.
SANCHEZ: (on camera): Whether it is a small town in the South like Abbeville or a big city in the Midwest, the question that remains is how many others living perhaps in communities like our own could have an ax to grind against the government and are willing to act on it, as Steven Bixby is now accused of.
POTOK: That's inevitable that we'll see another Bixby shoot-out. There will be something more like this. There's something like it almost every year. SANCHEZ: (voice over): But how do you stop it? How do you stop the lone wolf? In Abbeville, the chief of police knew Steven Bixby, even drove him around town, thought he was loud, strange, but capable of murdering two police officers on that day in December 2003?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would never think that something like this would happen in a town of 6,000 people. I never saw it coming. I never saw anything like this coming.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ: We should tell that you prosecutors are now seeking the death penalty for not only Steven Bixby, but also for his father and mother, all are pleading not guilty. Steven's lawyer tells us, and we quote "at this point in the case it is not exactly clear who pulled the trigger."
We also called Arthur Bixby, the father's lawyer, he preferred not to comment. While Rita Bixby's lawyer is telling us that the charges against his client are inappropriate because she was not involved in the shooting. That may be so, but prosecutors say she planned it and had her son and husband executed.
We remind you to stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security.
KAGAN: Thank you for those stories. Very interesting.
A lot of developing news that we're following today. From Tyler, Texas, we're going live to a news conference. The latest on the disappearance of Megan Holden. Her truck, we are hearing from authorities, has been found 1,200 miles away from the site where they believe she was abducted in Tyler, Texas. More of that just ahead.
SANCHEZ: We'll also be following a story on accusation against Bill Cosby. We'll be talking to Harvey Levin, "Celebrity Justice" about these. We'll have it for you right here. Stay with us. We're coming right back with a lot more.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: Bill Cosby's attorney confirms that Philadelphia police are checking out a complaint against the outspoken entertainer, but he says the allegations against Cosby are bizarre and preposterous.
A video of Cosby at an event in Detroit earlier this month, not related to the incident in question. The alleged incident could have taken place a year ago in Philadelphia. It is worth recalling that Cosby has been the victim of unfounded accusations before. So here to explain what we do know, Harvey Levin, executive producer of "Celebrity Justice."
Harvey, good morning.
HARVEY LEVIN, EXEC. PROD, "CELEBRITY JUSTICE": Good morning.
KAGAN: Most importantly, no charges filed in this case at this point?
LEVIN: It is so preliminary. Not only no charges, the police in Pennsylvania have not even contacted this alleged victim yet. So it is very preliminary.
KAGAN: Yet Bill Cosby has been in the news lately. He's been making what some people consider controversial statements from within the African American community about choices that people make in raising their children.
LEVIN: That's true. He's has been a lightning rod. Bill Cosby speaks his mind. Bill Cosby has been had problems with other people making allegations. But he is saying, Daryn, he's saying unequivocally that absolutely nothing happened. There is something interesting that came out this morning.
There is a statement from Cosby's people saying at most this allegation amounts to unwanted touching. And that could kind of be looked at two ways. Is he saying at most that's what he did or at most that's what the allegation is. We can clear that up. We've contacted Cosby's people. They are saying the allegation itself only amounts to unwanted touching, but they absolutely deny he did anything wrong.
KAGAN: But isn't that even strange to say at this point? Kind of say, well, something funky maybe did happen, but it wasn't that big of a deal.
LEVIN: They're saying that nothing funky did happen. They're saying the allegation itself is not like rape. I think that's what they're trying to convey, that the allegation is that he touched her breasts, that she may have put -- he may have put her hand on his private area. But at most, that's what it is. They're saying he did not do it.
What's really interesting is that there is a connection here. She worked at Temple University. This is what we found out. In the basketball program. Bill Cosby is an icon at Temple University, just an absolute icon there. Really a big supporter and has been a big booster of women's basketball as well.
So it appears that if there is a connection between these two, that's how it came about.
KAGAN: Bill Cosby has had to do a lot of his private life personally in the public like light as well going back to 1997 when this woman Autumn Jackson came out claiming to be his daughter.
LEVIN: And indeed Autumn Jackson was convicted of extortion for that because she was allegedly -- in fact, she was convicted. She tried to get money out of Bill Cosby in return for silence. That's always an issue in cases like this. And really, it's one of the first things that police look at. And this is something that we're trying to find out as well.
Did this woman make any contact with Bill Cosby trying to get any money before the police in Toronto were contacted? That's always a question, especially now because this is not something that allegedly happened yesterday or a month ago. It supposedly happened a year ago while she worked at Temple University.
She has since left temple. She moved to Canada, and then talked to the Canada police who got in touch with people in Philadelphia.
KAGAN: Harvey Levin thanks for filling in details for us.
LEVIN: My pleasure Daryn.
SANCHEZ: There is in fact a lot of news that we're following for you on this day. Like this story. Hollywood actors say they want a bigger slice of the DVD market pie. But the big movie studios have managed to win at least round one against the show biz union. That story is going to be coming up after the break.
KAGAN: And here's another look inside the National Cathedral prayer service. The president and Mrs. Bush.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can only describe it as I had a hole in my heart. And the more I try -
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
SANCHEZ: Let's look at business. David Haffenreffer is standing by. How are things shaping up there today?
(STOCK MARKET REPORT)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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Aired January 21, 2005 - 10:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's take a look at what's happening now in the news. A car bombing in southern Baghdad today killed at least 14 people and wounded 42 others. The attack occurred outside a Shiite mosque. Worshipers had just left services marking the end of the Hajj, a Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca. There were also attacks today on a river police patrol in Baghdad and a police station in Ramadi.
We're showing you live pictures of the prayer service at Washington National Cathedral. The service is the last official function of the inauguration. Clergy of different faiths from around the country are participating. Evangelist Billy Graham is there. It's his eighth inaugural prayer service.
A senior government official tells CNN that FCC Chairman Michael Powell plans to submit his resignation. An announcement is expected some time today. Powell has been with the Federal Communications Commission for eight years, the last four as chairman.
And brides take a look at this video. New this morning, desperate for a bargain, these brides-to-be rushed in where others feared to tread. The stampede for low cost bridal wear is going on at Filenes's basement. The store is right here in Atlanta. Good luck, ladies.
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: And now this. In his inaugural address, President Bush called September 11th a day of fire that helped make his mission clear. Since the attack, the nation's attention primarily has been focused on al Qaeda and international terrorism.
But there's another type of terrorism that comes from within. In our continuing series, "Defending America", we investigate homegrown terror. And introduce to you what may be a new term for you. They are called lone wolves.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ (voice over): Abbeville, South Carolina. A town that prides itself as the birthplace of the confederacy.
CRAIG GAGNON, CHIROPRACTOR: There you go.
SANCHEZ: Chiropractor Craig Gagnon is called doc in Abbeville. He got a strange phone call one morning from one of his patients.
GAGNON: She says, Craig, this is Rita Bixby. I just wanted to let you know that it's begun and Steven has shot a deputy. And I said, well, when did this happen? She said, about 15 minutes ago. He came into the house and Steven shot him. And I said, well, how's the deputy? She says, I don't suppose he's doing so good right now seeing as Steven shot him with a .7 millimeter.
SANCHEZ: Hell was about to break loose in Abbeville that day. It wouldn't be just a shoot-out. It would be a family's declaration of war against the government. And Gagnon would find himself right smack in the middle of it.
Because after the call from Rita Bixby, Gagnon and his partner raced to the scene where they found a car with the engine still running, a deputy's car. So when they saw another officer arrive, they tried to warn him, don't go toward the house, Gagnon's partner shouted. It was too late.
GAGNON: And I saw -- well, I heard an explosion from the house. And instantly knew it was a shot. And I heard the glass of the front porch -- after the shot. It was just a weird -- it was almost like it was in slow motion almost.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've got shots fired.
SANCHEZ: What he heard was a second shot. A second officer down. Constable Donny Utz (ph) now laid dying just steps from the Bixby's front door while his fellow officer Danny Wilson (ph) lay dying inside the Bixby home.
Police, even Gagnon tried talking Steven and Arthur Bixby out of the house. It didn't work. They were headed for a showdown, a massive gunfight.
GAGNON: When they finally started exchanging gunfire, you could hear the service revolvers of the agents bap, bap. You hear Steve in the house, boom, boom, boom. There would be an exchange, bap, bap, boom, boom. Bap, bap, bap. Boom, boom.
SANCHEZ: Hundreds, maybe thousands of rounds were exchanged. And it took all that as well as countless canisters of tear gas over 13 hours to get the Bixby's to give themselves up, to be charged with first degree murder in the deaths of the two officers.
SANCHEZ, (on camera): And what was this all about? This small chunk of land. The government wanted to expand highway 72 on to their property. How much property? We'll count it for you. One, two, three steps.
SANCHEZ, (voice over): It was government surveyors preparing that piece of land three days earlier that had apparently set off the Bixby's. But local law enforcement officials are convinced there was more to it. They call it an ambush. A setup against anyone wearing a uniform.
NEAL HENDERSON, ABBEVILLE POLICE CHIEF: Whether it was the U.P.S. man, the mailman, a meter reader, whatever. First person that stepped foot on that property that day was going to get it. SANCHEZ: In fact, in court the day after the shoot-out, Steven Bixby revealed what touched off the family's rage.
STEVEN BIXBY: Why did I do it? We didn't do it. They started it. They started it. And if we can't be any freer than that in this country, I just as soon die.
SANCHEZ: Even though the Bixby's would actually have gained, not lost land, Bixby referred to the government as communist bureaucrat dictators and claimed that he had a constitutional right to revolution.
Bixby: Ruby Ridge, Waco, this country's shown what it is. I love this country, but I just can't stand the bastards in it.
SANCHEZ: The Bixby's brought their defiant and anti-government and pro-property rights stance with them when they moved to South Carolina.
BIXBY: I'm originally from New Hampshire where the motto is "live free or die." They brought the hostile aggression on.
SANCHEZ: Back in New Hampshire, a superior court judge had feared the Bixbys so much; she asked for and received round the clock police protection. In law enforcement terms Steven Bixby is a lone wolf, driven to act by his anti-government views and he's not the only one. Even though the nation's attention has shifted since 9/11 to the threat from al Qaeda, the danger here at home remains enormous.
MARK POTOK, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: Luckily for all of us, up to this point, they have not been as organized or nearly as sophisticated as al-Quada.
SANCHEZ: For now. But here's a question we ask. Who else could possibly be out there who could act seemingly without warning? And who is trying to keep tabs on them and try and stop them before the violence happens?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's not only Osama bin Laden out there. It's not only people with turbans on who are capable of blowing you and your family up. That there are actual real life Americans, people from -- people who are our neighbors.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ: When we come back, you'll hear and see for yourself where one threat may originate and what some are doing to try and stop it. We'll have that for you on the other side of the commercial break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: We want to update you on a story we started following yesterday about Abu Musab al Zarqawi. There are reports that he released a new tape on an Islamic web site urging followers to be patient and encouraging them as the fierce battle does not end quickly.
Also talking that Fallujah should be our front battle and praising those insurgents that have fought coalition forces in Fallujah. National Intelligence sources now say they do believe the voice on the tape on this Internet site is indeed Abu Musab al Zarqawi.
SANCHEZ: Back now to our special report. Before the break, we saw the results of a bloody shoot-out in the small town of Abbeville, South Carolina. Where a man, as you may have seen, said he had the right to revolution and is accused of killing two police officers.
But he and his anti-government family are just part of a much bigger picture. More now on our special CNN investigation on lone wolves and those now trying to track them.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ, (voice over): Investigator Joe Roy watches things that would make your stomach turn.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There isn't a Jew on this earth that deserves to live for what they have done to our race.
SANCHEZ: On this day, he's monitoring a speech from Reverend James Wickstrom (ph) at a neo-Nazi rally.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Jews will go away because they're all going to die. And I say to them with my heart -- what you do with it and how you handle it is strictly going to be between you --
JOE ROY, SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER: That's the lone wolf.
SANCHEZ: At the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery Alabama, Roy and others keep a constant watch on people who may be driven to act after hearing such hateful language. People who evolve from hate-filled to violent, like Oklahoma City bomber Tim McVeigh, and quite possibly Steven Bixby.
However, since 9/11, the hunt for these types has not been the top priority for U.S. law enforcement.
SANCHEZ, (on camera): Do they ignore domestic terrorism at their own peril?
ROY: Well, sure. I think that anybody that ignores it, it's at their own peril.
POTOK: it is not only Osama bin laden out there; it is not only people with turbans on that are capable of blowing you and your family up. There are actual real life Americans, people who are our neighbors.
SANCHEZ, (voice over): People like William Crar (ph), arrested in Texas with enough sodium cyanide to potentially kill thousands. He's now in a federal prison. And Steven Geordie (ph), arrested and planning to fire bomb abortion clinics.
And what about the anthrax killer? Remember him? The one who terrorized all of us after 9/11 but still hasn't been caught.
SANCHEZ, (on camera): You think that person, that person out there, the anthrax killer is a lone wolf?
POTOK: Yes. I don't think there's any question.
SANCHEZ: (voice over): Mark Potok was a newspaper reporter who joined the center after seeing the carnage that Tim McVeigh wrought on Oklahoma City. Now, he runs the "Intelligence Report", the center's magazine, which exposes extremist groups on both right and the left.
POTOK: What is our aim? Our aim is to destroy these groups, if possible.
SANCHEZ: And they've had success. By working with law enforcement and bringing civil suits against groups like the neo-Nazi National Alliance whose former leader wrote the book that inspired Tim McVeigh.
POTOK: Two years ago these people were all staff at the National Alliance. Every one of these people is now gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone.
SANCHEZ: Security here is tight. For good reason. They've made lots of enemies. Even been firebombed.
SANCHEZ: (on camera): Do you worry about your own safety? Or the safety of this building and the people who work inside here?
POTOK: The reality is that there are close to 30 people in federal prison for various plots over the last 20 years to blow this place up or to assassinate its founder.
SANCHEZ: (voice over): There's something else that worries Potok and Roy these days. It may be a by-product of their own success. While they've managed to splinter or eliminate large, well- organized hate groups, they may have made it harder to keep track of their former members who could be spurred to act after hearing speeches like this one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And give them a holocaust that they rightly deserve.
SANCHEZ: (on camera): Whether it is a small town in the South like Abbeville or a big city in the Midwest, the question that remains is how many others living perhaps in communities like our own could have an ax to grind against the government and are willing to act on it, as Steven Bixby is now accused of.
POTOK: That's inevitable that we'll see another Bixby shoot-out. There will be something more like this. There's something like it almost every year. SANCHEZ: (voice over): But how do you stop it? How do you stop the lone wolf? In Abbeville, the chief of police knew Steven Bixby, even drove him around town, thought he was loud, strange, but capable of murdering two police officers on that day in December 2003?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would never think that something like this would happen in a town of 6,000 people. I never saw it coming. I never saw anything like this coming.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
SANCHEZ: We should tell that you prosecutors are now seeking the death penalty for not only Steven Bixby, but also for his father and mother, all are pleading not guilty. Steven's lawyer tells us, and we quote "at this point in the case it is not exactly clear who pulled the trigger."
We also called Arthur Bixby, the father's lawyer, he preferred not to comment. While Rita Bixby's lawyer is telling us that the charges against his client are inappropriate because she was not involved in the shooting. That may be so, but prosecutors say she planned it and had her son and husband executed.
We remind you to stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security.
KAGAN: Thank you for those stories. Very interesting.
A lot of developing news that we're following today. From Tyler, Texas, we're going live to a news conference. The latest on the disappearance of Megan Holden. Her truck, we are hearing from authorities, has been found 1,200 miles away from the site where they believe she was abducted in Tyler, Texas. More of that just ahead.
SANCHEZ: We'll also be following a story on accusation against Bill Cosby. We'll be talking to Harvey Levin, "Celebrity Justice" about these. We'll have it for you right here. Stay with us. We're coming right back with a lot more.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
KAGAN: Bill Cosby's attorney confirms that Philadelphia police are checking out a complaint against the outspoken entertainer, but he says the allegations against Cosby are bizarre and preposterous.
A video of Cosby at an event in Detroit earlier this month, not related to the incident in question. The alleged incident could have taken place a year ago in Philadelphia. It is worth recalling that Cosby has been the victim of unfounded accusations before. So here to explain what we do know, Harvey Levin, executive producer of "Celebrity Justice."
Harvey, good morning.
HARVEY LEVIN, EXEC. PROD, "CELEBRITY JUSTICE": Good morning.
KAGAN: Most importantly, no charges filed in this case at this point?
LEVIN: It is so preliminary. Not only no charges, the police in Pennsylvania have not even contacted this alleged victim yet. So it is very preliminary.
KAGAN: Yet Bill Cosby has been in the news lately. He's been making what some people consider controversial statements from within the African American community about choices that people make in raising their children.
LEVIN: That's true. He's has been a lightning rod. Bill Cosby speaks his mind. Bill Cosby has been had problems with other people making allegations. But he is saying, Daryn, he's saying unequivocally that absolutely nothing happened. There is something interesting that came out this morning.
There is a statement from Cosby's people saying at most this allegation amounts to unwanted touching. And that could kind of be looked at two ways. Is he saying at most that's what he did or at most that's what the allegation is. We can clear that up. We've contacted Cosby's people. They are saying the allegation itself only amounts to unwanted touching, but they absolutely deny he did anything wrong.
KAGAN: But isn't that even strange to say at this point? Kind of say, well, something funky maybe did happen, but it wasn't that big of a deal.
LEVIN: They're saying that nothing funky did happen. They're saying the allegation itself is not like rape. I think that's what they're trying to convey, that the allegation is that he touched her breasts, that she may have put -- he may have put her hand on his private area. But at most, that's what it is. They're saying he did not do it.
What's really interesting is that there is a connection here. She worked at Temple University. This is what we found out. In the basketball program. Bill Cosby is an icon at Temple University, just an absolute icon there. Really a big supporter and has been a big booster of women's basketball as well.
So it appears that if there is a connection between these two, that's how it came about.
KAGAN: Bill Cosby has had to do a lot of his private life personally in the public like light as well going back to 1997 when this woman Autumn Jackson came out claiming to be his daughter.
LEVIN: And indeed Autumn Jackson was convicted of extortion for that because she was allegedly -- in fact, she was convicted. She tried to get money out of Bill Cosby in return for silence. That's always an issue in cases like this. And really, it's one of the first things that police look at. And this is something that we're trying to find out as well.
Did this woman make any contact with Bill Cosby trying to get any money before the police in Toronto were contacted? That's always a question, especially now because this is not something that allegedly happened yesterday or a month ago. It supposedly happened a year ago while she worked at Temple University.
She has since left temple. She moved to Canada, and then talked to the Canada police who got in touch with people in Philadelphia.
KAGAN: Harvey Levin thanks for filling in details for us.
LEVIN: My pleasure Daryn.
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