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More Concerns About Iran Nuclear Policy; Intervie with Jamail Larkins; L.A. Times Reports "Deep Throat" Is Seriously Ill
Aired February 06, 2005 - 18:00 ET
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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR, CNN LIVE SUNDAY: He is hoarse and frail, but the pope's mere appearance is the answer to millions of prayers.
And he is the man who helped bring down Richard Nixon and the most famous anonymous source in mystery. But is deep throat near death and does that mean we're going to find out who it is? Also --
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FRANK BUCKLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He looks like any other MBA student at Notre Dame, until you see how Jason Frei was wounded in Iraq.
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LIN: When you meet this former Marine you know why we say semper Frei. It is February 6th, Super Bowl Sunday and you are watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
From CNN's global headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Carol Lin and here is what's happening right now in the news. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says it is time, a hopeful time in the Middle East. The nation's top diplomat met with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon today ahead of Tuesday' mideast summit.
And there was a tragedy in eastern Spain. Eighteen Spaniards have been found dead in a mountain hostel from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning. The victims are only about 25 to 40 years old. They had gathered there to celebrate a birthday.
And Ford Motor Company is announcing another major recall. The auto maker is calling back nearly 359,000 Ford Focus cars because of a potential problem with their rear door latches. It is the second recall for Ford in as many weeks.
Right now, we begin with the not so subtle warning and a defiant response. The rhetoric is heating up between the United States and Iran. Days after President Bush called the country the world's primary state sponsor of terror, Iran is firing back. Not literally, but seriously enough that we turn to CNN White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux.
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In this year's state of the union address, President Bush did not call Iran the axis of evil, but it was pretty close.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today, Iran remains the world's primary state sponsor of terror, pursuing nuclear weapons while depriving its people of the freedom they seek and deserve.
MALVEAUX: On this day, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator fired back saying any aggressive military action by the U.S. would be answered in kind.
HASSAN ROHANI, IRAN'S SUPREME NATL SEC. COUN. (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I don't think America itself will take such a risk because America knows very well that we will strongly answer such an attack. The Americans are well aware of our capabilities. They know our capabilities for retaliating against such attack.
MALVEAUX: But top White House officials insist the U.S. is working with its European allies on a diplomatic solution to convince Tehran to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think there's a good faith effort under way by our European allies to try to resolve this matter diplomatically. We support that effort.
MALVEAUX: But Bush critics say the president needs to do more. While Britain, France and Germany offered economic and diplomatic incentives to motivate Iran to suspend its nuclear program, the Bush administration is holding out.
MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, FMR. SECRETARY OF STATE: We can't be waiting for a change in regime in Iran, then also it seems that even the reformers are eager to have some kind of a nuclear capability.
SEN. JOHN McCAIN (R) ARIZONA: We can't take the military option completely off the table, but we can't saber rattle either.
MALVEAUX: One former secretary of state warns if Mr. Bush's policy is not successful, the consequences could be dire.
HENRY KISSINGER, FMR. SECRETARY OF STATE: If nuclear weapons spread to Iran, the genie will be really totally out of the bottle and we will live in a different world with huge risks for mankind.
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MALVEAUX: And a clear sign that the administration's strategy is to downplay any potential conflict with Iran, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld appeared on four talk shows. On the subject of Iran though, he had very little to say. Carol.
LIN: Suzanne, do you know whether the Bush administration has military options on the table right now regarding Iran?
MALVEAUX: What the Bush administration says is that they have all options on the table. They're certainly ruling it out but it is not a priority. It is unrealistic. We did hear from Cheney several weeks ago, talking about perhaps the scenario of Israel striking those nuclear sites inside of Iran. Those particular sites, but as far as the United States is concerned, that very much is seen as an unrealistic possibility militarily, also diplomatically, they do not think that it would be wise.
LIN: Suzanne Malveaux live at the White House.
Let's talk about what's happening right here at home. Two phrases being bandied about on Capitol Hill, belly up versus long-term challenge. Those are very different terms Republicans and Democrats are using today to describe the future of Social Security. Now Vice President Dick Cheney promoted the White House proposal to privatize part of the program to stop it from going broke, but he acknowledged the government would have to borrow more than $750 billion in the next decade and trillions more after that. Democrats say President Bush is overstating Social Security's problems.
In the meantime, looking weak and barely able to talk, Pope John Paul II made a public appearance from his hospital window today, his first, since he was taken ill with a respiratory infection. Our Walter Rodgers in Rome says the pope had a special message for anyone who believes he can no longer lead the Roman Catholic Church.
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WALTER RODGERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Those who prayed for the recovery of his holiness Pope John Paul II this past week saw their prayers answered on Sunday, when his holiness appeared at a bedroom window at the Gemelli hospital, the pope appearing to bless the faithful. He was in a wheelchair and it was his first public appearance since his angelus delivered from the Vatican, his bedroom window there Sunday a week ago. In that appearance, it's thought that the pope may have been exposed to too much cold.
On Monday it was announced he had flu, and there were complications on Tuesday, breathing problems, respiratory difficulty, such that his holiness was rushed to this hospital. There was considerable anxiety about his health. A watch was established, hundreds of television cameras set up outside this hospital, but the pope appeared in public today, albeit in a wheelchair and delivered a brief blessing, showing his frailty and hoarse, but nonetheless, showing the world that he is recovering.
POPE JOHN PAUL II: (INAUDIBLE)
RODGERS: His holiness Pope John Paul saying in Latin, of course, "in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit." Those are the only words he managed in this public appearance. The principal angelus, that is to say the message and the prayer which the pope delivers every Sunday, were actually read by one of his aides, Archbishop Leonardo Sandry (ph), the archbishop saying that the pope thanked the world for those who prayed for him, thanked the doctors and the pope also had a very pointed message in that angelus today that is he going to stay firmly on the throne of St. Peter here in the Vatican. He is not going to relinquish his authority as the pope. At the Vatican itself in St. Peter's Square, there were large video screens showing the pope's hospitalized message, reassuring the faithful, the scant several thousand pilgrims who were there that his holiness is indeed recovering from this illness. On Monday, at midday, the Vatican is expected to release another health bulletin. Walter Rodgers, CNN, Rome.
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LIN: Back here at home, there is no rest for the weary. The countdown is on for Super Bowl XXXIX. In about 20 minutes, the Philadelphia Eagles and the New England Patriots kick off the big game. So let's go live to the action in Jacksonville, Florida and CNN's Larry Smith on site there. Hi, Larry.
LARRY SMITH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, how are you? Good evening. The electricity is building here. A week of hype, two weeks of buildup are finally here. Patriots, Eagles just across the river about to kick off Super Bowl XXXIX. Now a lot of Eagles fans have come down from Philadelphia, even though they don't have tickets. One guy is ready to go. I mean, OK, why come down here from Philadelphia if you don't have a ticket? Just watch it at home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't need a ticket. It's a brotherhood. It's a fellowship all together, all together. It's a war! And we back up everyone of our soldiers.
SMITH: Tell me this, it's been 24 years since your last Super Bowl, 22 years since the last pro championship. I mean is it just so long coming that you had to be down here to be a part of the atmosphere?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So long coming, but guess what? We're talking about now. The past doesn't even matter. This is it. It's a new beginning and we're going on!
SMITH: As you can see, these guys are a little excited about the game. Make sure (ph) tonight though on the field over at the stadium, Terrell Owens, the pro-bowl wide receiver who broke his leg, right leg seven weeks ago will play in tonight's game. He is in uniform. He will be playing, and Eagles fans, as you can tell very psyched about that as well. For the Patriots, the defending Super Bowl champions try to win their third title in four years, depending on Tom Brady, twice a Super Bowl MVP. He is 8-0 in the playoffs. He is trying to now become, join only his boyhood idol, Joe Montana, as the only three-time Super Bowl MVP. So there you go.
I'm impartial, but as you can see here I've been donned an Eagles fan by these guys. Once again, the stadium, just across the river the fans are in there, nearly 80,000 in all. The city of Jacksonville excited. It's a little brisk right now as the winds are beginning to kick up. The sun is down. A little colder than it was this afternoon when everyone was out, but everyone very excited, 12th city ever to host a Super Bowl and here we go, 20 minutes to kickoff. Patriots and Eagles, we're back (ph) down to the game to tell you all about it. Let's go back to you. LIN: It looks like a beautiful day, thanks very much, Larry Smith.
In the meantime, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld goes on the defensive again about when U.S. troops will leave Iraq. Hear what he had to say straight ahead on CNN LIVE SUNDAY. Also -
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: stop about here, came through, hit me there, the blast took off most of my hand.
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LIN: Our segment on the front lines, a U.S. Marine wounded in the early days of the war in Iraq. Losing a hand has not kept him from living.
Also, the BTK killer, what are his motives for resurfacing again after all of these years?
And is deep throat near death? New claims that if true, could soon lead to the unveiling of the famous Watergate source.
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LIN: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is again refusing calls to set a timetable to remove U.S. forces from Iraq. Now in the "The Washington Post" today, Senator Joseph Biden says the administration needs to level with America on when there will be enough Iraqis trained to replace American troops in Iraq. Now here's how Rumsfeld responded to that on CNN's LATE EDITION.
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DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: The problem with answering that question with a date is that you can't know what the level of the insurgency is going to be. You don't know to the extent to which Iran and Syria are going to misbehave or behave. You can't know the extent to which Zarqawi's money is going to flow in. He's hire more criminals or suicide bombers. So what you have to do is look at the conditions and the answer is that you see the conditions on the ground, and they may be higher or lower and the test is to see that the Iraqi security forces over time, can manage that level of insurgency, and we're working very hard to achieve that and so far, they've done a very good job.
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LIN: The secretary also left unclear how many Iraqi troops are capable of battling the insurgency right now.
Well a U.S. soldier has been killed in a roadside bomb attack in Iraq. It happened north of Baghdad and two other soldiers were wounded. There's word Iraqi security forces suffered heavy casualties in an attack a short time ago near Baghdad. The Associated Press reports insurgents, armed with automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades fired at a police station in Mahawil, an hour-long gunfire ensued. Now it was all over, 22 Iraqi security forces and 14 attackers were dead.
Four Egyptian workers have been taken hostage also in Iraq. Egyptians were seized outside their home in western Baghdad this morning. They had been working for a telecommunications company in Iraq for about a year.
Now the political front, a key Sunni Muslim group tells CNN it will not participate in drafting a new constitution until coalition forces leave. The association of Muslim scholars says the government won't be legitimate, because so many Sunnis boycotted last week's vote. It's asking the United Nations to refuse to endorse the results which are expected later this week.
Iraq confirms it's holding a general also who served under Saddam Hussein. Authorities say 51-year-old, this general, was captured in December. He is being held on suspicion of financing insurgent attacks and plotting attacks aimed at disrupting the election.
Now every week, about this time, we bring you the more personal stories from the front lines. Today we revisit the story of a U.S. Marine whose life was turned upside down after he lost an arm just as the war broke out in Iraq. CNN's Frank Buckley caught up with Captain Jason Frei to see how he's recovered and what he's doing now.
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FRANK BUCKLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He looks like any other MBA student at Notre Dame, until you see how Jason Frei was wounded in Iraq. It happened just days after the war began, just moments after this picture was taken. In March, 2003, Marine Captain Jason Frei was commanding an artillery battery, racing through Iraq. Frei was sitting in the passenger seat of this Humvee, when a rocket- propelled grenade slammed into its side.
CAPT. JASON FREI: The RPG came in from the back and just took my arm off.
BUCKLEY: The door of the Humvee is on display at Camp Pendleton. Frei showed it to us last summer.
FREI: The RPG came in, you can see here from the back, and hit the door right here. It probably came through, my arm stops about here, came through, hit me there. The blast took off most of my hand, and a good chunk of my forearm.
BUCKLEY: It was a life-threatening moment that would force a life changing decision. The Naval academy graduate, the career Marine chose to leave the Marine corps. How difficult was it for you to walk away from that?
FREI: That was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Because you're not in the Marines. You are a Marine. BUCKLEY: But Frei knew that while he was leaving one family, the Marine Corps, his other family was growing. His 3-year-old Molly, and 4-year-old Robby, gained a new little brother, Tommy, who was born after Frei came home from the war.
FREI: That's a gift and every day when I come home, you see him and you can say wow! That's something, that's a person that might not have happened.
BUCKLEY: Because Frei didn't die on that battlefield in Iraq, and losing a hand hasn't kept him from living. He counsels future officers in the ROTC about what he's experienced. He'll have an MBA from Notre Dame in 2006.
(on-camera): And he is still leading. Fellow MBA students elected him class president.
(voice-over): He's become so used to using the prosthetic that replaced his arm that Jason's wife, Valerie, says he refuses her help. Jason says he can do anything. Is that true?
VALERIE FREI, JASON FREI'S WIFE: Almost anything. He can not juggle anymore, and the other thing he can not do is walk across the street holding his little girl and little boy's hand. He's adapted to that and now he says "hooks and hands, hooks and hands." And they take his hook and they take his hand and he can walk them across the street.
BUCKLEY: Before the war, Valerie had videotaped Jason playing with the children, not just so remind them of daddy, but also just in case. That fear nearly realized when the RPG hit, but the ambush that nearly killed him, that did take his arm, left Jason Frei more grateful than ever about the family he loves, and the life he still has.
FREI: Until you have something that important to you almost taken away, I don't think you can really appreciate it and I am very thankful for the things that I have.
BUCKLEY: Frank Buckley, CNN, South Bend, Indiana.
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LIN: Strength from tragedy.
Consider these words, please don't go. That is the message to the U.S. military in another part of the world. Straight ahead, why many Indonesian survivors of the deadly tsunami like having U.S. troops there.
And back in this country, the debate over same-sex marriages. One couple's quest for a legal union.
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LIN: I've got some news from around the world right now. NATO troops and rescue crews are stymied in their efforts to reach the wreckage of an Afghan passenger jet right on top of a remote mountain. More than 100 people on board are believed to have died. Several of the victims are Americans. It was foggy up there, and there's up to eight feet of snow and that's just making efforts to get to the site very complicated.
Also new tension in the nation of Togo. Togo's prime minister announced on television Saturday that the death of the country's president is making things complicated. The army installed the president's son as the new leader. Togo's parliament hastily amended the constitution to allow that succession. French troops have been put on alert, should they be needed to protect French citizens living in the West African nation.
Official results from Thailand's election won't be in until Wednesday, but the prime minister there (INAUDIBLE) is already claiming a historic re-election victory. In fact, it's an unprecedented second term.
It sure looks like U.S. troops have won the hearts and minds of the tsunami victims in the tsunami ravaged province of Banda Aceh. Many locals are now sorry that they are actually going to be leaving. CNN's Becky Diamond has that story.
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BECKY DIAMOND, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Before the tsunami destroyed his home, 11-year-old Rian Mustafa didn't know anything about the United States. Now he doesn't want this country he had never heard of to leave. He says he feels safer knowing the United States is here and he also thinks the U.S. soldiers are pretty cool.
RIAN MUSTAFA, 11-YEARS OLD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): They are different from the Indonesian military. The American troops are in better shape.
DIAMOND: As U.S. military forces begin to pull out of Aceh, they leave behind changing perceptions of America.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I used to think that the U.S. was an arrogant super power from the news reports, but now, after the tsunami, I can see that they help us when we are in need (ph). They really want to help the people of Aceh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I thank God the U.S. is helping us. God will repay them.
DIAMOND: There's another reason the U.S. military is welcome here. The people of Aceh province live under martial law, because separatists are waging a guerilla war against the Indonesian army. Having American soldiers here gave many a sense of security, as well as much needed supplies.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): When I see the American troops, I trust them. They do more to help the people than the Indonesian troops. I don't want them to leave. DIAMOND: While most locals seem to appreciate the American presence in Aceh, some Indonesians are wary of U.S. influence, like this religious leader.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The Acehnese (ph) are Muslims. America brings in inappropriate ethics and doesn't understand the Acehnese social customs and special food considerations.
DIAMOND: Though dietary needs didn't seem to be uppermost in the minds of these Acehnese. The vast majority are grateful for the goods and the goodwill. Becky Diamond, CNN, Banda Aceh, Indonesia.
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LIN: Coming up, is the most famous anonymous source in history near death? Straight ahead, what a former Nixon administration insider says is being done to prepare for that name to be revealed.
Plus the BTK killer, why resurface after all these years? I'm going to be talking with a former FBI insider.
And charged with murder in the deaths of her three children, police say a mother admits to taking their lives. You're watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
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LIN: Welcome back. Here's a quick look at what's happening right now in the news. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is in the Middle East for meetings with Israeli and Palestinian leaders. In Jerusalem, Condoleezza Rice tells CNN a prime U.S. concern is to help stabilize the situation and train Palestinian security forces to fight terrorism.
President Bush has called Iran "the world's leading sponsor of terrorism." Now Iran is lashing back. Iranian officials say the U.S. has no right to criticize Iran while supporting quote, "a Zionist terrorist group."
More than 80,000 Super Bowl fans are packing Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville, Florida under a heavy blanked of security. Dozens of law enforcement agencies are operating on the stands, and on the streets, in the air, on the river and in cyberspace to prevent any possible terror attack.
Rap mogul Suge night is in Barstow, California, and in a jail there, on suspicion of violating his parole. Police say they found marijuana in his truck last night during a traffic stop. The cofounder of Death Row Records has a criminal record for assault and weapons violations.
Deep Throat is probably one of the most protected sources in American politics. Well now it appears that that identity of the man who delivered the goods to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein during Watergate may be revealed. Bob Woodward promised to ID him after he died. As our Howard Kurtz reports, there's word that Deep Throat is very ill.
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ROBERT REDFORD, ACTOR: Story is stalled on us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you thought I'd help?
HOWARD KURTZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice-over): He's the most famous secret source in journalistic history, the man who whispered Watergate secrets to Bob Woodward in a parking garage, played by Hal Holbrook in the movie "All the President's Men." More than three decades later, could we be closer to learning the identity of Deep Throat? John Dean, the Nixon White House aide who went to jail over the Watergate cover-up says we might.
Writing in Sunday's "Los Angeles Times," Dean says that Deep Throat, the man, we do know he is a man, who helped bring down President Nixon, is ill. What's worse, says Dean, Woodward told the editor of "the Washington Post" about the illness. How exactly does Dean know this? He's got his own Deep Throat, a source he won't identify who gave him the information.
Woodward declined to comment Sunday about any alleged illness but confirmed that former "Post" editor, Ben Bradley, the only other person besides Woodward and Carl Bernstein who knows Throat's identity, has said publicly that the obituary is already written. At the very least, "The Post" has the material ready.
Journalists are increasingly on the defensive about their use of confidential sources. "New York Times" reporter Judith Miller and "Time Magazine's" Matt Cooper are facing possible jail terms for failing to disclose which Bush administration official or officials talked to them about Valerie Plame, the CIA operative who was leaked to columnist and CNN CROSSFIRE host Bob Novak. Other journalists could face jail in the case of Wen Ho Lee, the former nuclear weapons scientists, suing to find out who gave his name to reporters, including one former CNN correspondent.
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Last week's opening of an exhibit of Woodward and Bernstein's paper in the University of Texas rekindled interest in Deep Throat, who is still held up as a good source, a classic example of a whistleblower who need to be protected by the press. But who was Deep Throat? What was his motivation and why did he betray Richard Nixon? If John Dean is right we may soon be able to answer those lingering questions. Howard Kurtz, CNN, Washington.
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LIN: The current executive editor of "the Post" Len Downey tells Howard Kurtz that Bob Woodward has not actually contacted him to say that Deep Throat is ill.
Meantime, another decade's long mystery is back in the deadlines. The notorious BTK killer, who is linked to eight unsolved murders in Kansas has apparently resurfaced again sending letters to the media and the police. The latest communication was received just last week so what is he up to and why is he resurfacing now and what does it say about the killer? Joining me with insight as always, former FBI special agent Don Clark. Don, you heard about this latest postcard to KAKE TV.
DON CLARK, FORMER FBI AGENT: Yes, Carol, I have.
LIN: Do you think it's the real deal, do you think it is him?
CLARK: Well, it certainly sounds like him, Carol. Let's look back in history, 31 plus years ago, this guy destroyed a family. Then he gave himself a name, that in and of itself is just a tad odd. Some serial killers don't usually do that, so it's almost like "I'm here. I'm back again, and I want to you know that I'm here again." And that's what it seems to me like it's a little bit of seeking out attention.
LIN: Giving his name, BTK, bind, torture and kill. In this postcard, we don't know what the contents are. The television station gave it to police because apparently it contained a message to police, and then the sender actually thanks the television station for its quick response to two previous messages, even giving some personal details about the news anchors there, the long time news anchors there having contracted colds and that he felt sorry for them. What is this man trying to do?
CLARK: Well, profilers are going to have a field day with this. But, again, when you look at what he's doing I think he's really trying to bring a lot more attention to himself, and it's almost like a punch counterpoint is that I can be a little bit smarter than you guys trying to get me. But here's the key, Carol. What I really think is that the law enforcement has to concentrate really on that postcard and on the message in there, because there may be some better leads in this particular postcard than there have been in some of the others to follow. For ...
LIN: What do you decipher, Don? Let's say they read the postcard. We don't know what the wording is but what are they looking for and how do they crack the code?
CLARK: Well, it may not necessarily be what it says, but how it says and where the location might be. I think one thing that could fairly be concluded is that for him to have known what he has known about, what he said about the anchors and the colds and so forth meant that hey, I'm definitely in the viewing area. So that in and of itself narrows down a particular area that this guy could very well be in, which gives the law enforcement really something to look at now, because it brings it a lot closer. Those are the types of things, Carol, that I think they really have to look deep for, that type of a lead.
LIN: Well, I hate to say this, but if the BTK killer was really looking for attention, he would go out and kill again, as he has not done in a number of years. Does this indicate to you his physical state perhaps, that he is incapable of committing those crimes again, but he still wants to make headlines?
CLARK: Well, let's hope so. Let's hope that maybe he is incapable of doing that and that's the reason that he hasn't done it before, because clearly, Carol, this type of person, who has done these eight murders, is capable of killing again. He's done it eight times and I think he could certainly do it again. So if that's the case, then we're all a lot better off for it. I think that area, again, within that television viewing area, has to be the one that has to really be concerned about their safety in that community area.
LIN: Witchita, Kansas, all right. The FBI knows things that we don't know right now. How do they authenticate this note? Maybe it's just a hoax.
CLARK: Well, it could be, but you know, we're not in that war room, if you will, as to where all of this information, and again, they have significant other information that we don't know about, and Carol, they're going to go piece by piece, and try and put the pieces of this puzzle together, and unfortunately, or I should say fortunately there has not been a recent killing here for them to have fresh evidence for us, so they really have to deal in the history, but if they keep going back to the evidence that they have, the postcards, the message and keep trying to reanalyze that and work together, who knows, a clue may pop up.
LIN: Do you think serial killers want to be caught in a way?
CLARK: You know, we've seen both types and I'll get on a slippery slope, because I'm not a profiler but I've worked with enough of them to know that yes, there are some that are kind of begging for that kind of attention but by and large, the ones that I have been involved in, which is at least been two or three, that they didn't intend to get caught. Eventually, they just run out of rope and they do get caught. But I don't think most of them intend to get caught but some do want to get caught.
LIN: You know what, these families are waiting for that day. Don Clark, thank you very much.
CLARK: You bet, thank you, Carol.
LIN: First, a shocking discovery. Three children starved to death in their Huntsville, Alabama, home, and now according to authorities, a disturbing confession. Their mother told police it was not an accident.
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LIN (voice-over): The mother of the three children found dead in this Alabama apartment is now charged with capital murder. Huntsville police say 33-year-old Natashay Ward deliberately starved her son and two daughters to death. Police report that the disturbing confession came late Friday night. Earlier this day, emergency workers responding to a distress call at the home, found the bodies.
WENDELL JOHNSON, HUNTSVILLE, AL POLICE: The utilities had been turned off since January 12th. The children had been missing from school. They never returned to Ridgecrest after the school break.
LIN: 11-year-old Shanieka, 9-year-old Latricia, and Christopher, just 8, were found fully clothed, lying on the floor in separate bedrooms that had no beds. They appeared malnourished.
JOHNSON: Please try not to speculate, read anything, and go on rumors and innuendoes. This may be a long and extensive investigation.
LIN: Grieving family members say they tried to give the mother money for the electric bill, but Natashay Ward would not let them in. State social services called on the family in December, but no one answered the door. It is unclear when the children died. Neighbor Eddie Love says he last saw the family two weeks ago.
EDDIE LOVE, NEIGHBOR: They crossed the street upstairs and I used to see them going back and forth after school and we used to walk over there together and she never did talk much.
LIN: When the bodies were discovered Friday, the children's father was at the scene, so was their grandmother, whom police believe called 911. Both are being questioned. Neither lived with the family.
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LIN (on camera): A full autopsy report is expected in two weeks. In the meantime, the mother is being held without bail at the Madison County Jail.
Straight ahead on CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (on camera): We're just glad that we have the opportunity to have that equality that everyone else has and we did not.
LIN: They went to court to earn the right to marry, but how long will this lesbian couple keep that right?
And he's been flying planes longer than he's been driving a car and check out these moves. I'm going to talk to this young pilot who certainly has the right stuff.
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LIN: New York City's mayor says the city will appeal a court decision regarding same-sex marriage. The city is looking to a higher court to decide on the issue. We've got more now from CNN's Mary Snow.
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MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For the first time in their 23 years together, Jo-Ann Shain and Mary Jo Kennedy are close to making what they call their ordinary life part of history.
MARY JO KENNEDY, PLAINTIFF: All my life I never thought this day would come, so it's all the more wonderful.
SNOW: Shane and Kennedy are among five couples who have taken the front line in a fight to legalize same-sex marriages in New York City, saying civil unions aren't enough.
KENNEDY: I equate it with sitting at the back of the bus. The bus takes everybody to the same place, but it's not the same experience.
SNOW: They credit their 16-year-old daughter, Aliya, with inspiring them.
ALIYA SHAIN, COUPLE'S DAUGHTER: They always taught me to go what you fight for. It's time for them to practice what they he preach and go for it.
SNOW: Shain, Kennedy and four other couples celebrated when a New York State judge ruled that the ban on same-sex marriages in New York is unconstitutional. The judge stayed her ruling for 30 days. New York's mayor, who supports same-sex marriages, says the city will appeal. He wants to avoid what happened in San Francisco, when gay couples got the green light to get married, and it was later retracted.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, MAYOR OF NEW YORK: But we are going to follow the law, and I think if we did not appeal this, we would have chaos in this city.
SNOW: A New York political party opposed the ruling.
MICHAEL LONG, NY STATE CONSERVATIVE PARTY: The judge is rewriting laws, in fact, the law is very clear in New York State that marriage is between a man and a woman.
SNOW: Mary Jo Kennedy and Jo-Ann Shain know their fight is far from over but say they won't back down.
KENNEDY: There's more hurdles to overcome but we really look forward to the day that we can actually be spouses.
SNOW: Mary Snow, CNN, New York.
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LIN: Elsewhere across America, abortion rights and stem cell research advocates want an appeal of a Chicago judge's decision that an embryo is a human being. A fertility clinic accidentally destroyed nine embryos a couple had stored there. A judge Friday ruled they could sue the clinic for wrongful death because Illinois state law says legal personhood begins at conception.
A railroad company has fired three crew members over the January 6th freight train crash that killed nine people in South Carolina. Norfolk Southern says the engineer, conductor and brakemen failed to switch a track.
Officials don't yet know why a CSX train carrying new trails derailed today south of Cartersville, Ohio. There were no injuries.
We've got a fantastic story here and wonderful guest. Most young people may not know the difference between aerobatics and aerobics but Jamail Larkins does. At 21 he is the youngest aerobatics air show performer in America, besides being a pilot and president of his own company and an ambassador for the FAA at this tender age. Jamail Larkins joins me now.
Jamail, the reason why we invited you on not just your extraordinary history of starting at such a young age flying, but the FAA recruited you for help. I want to get to that in a moment, but let's look at your background. You actually started at the tender age of 12 getting behind the wheel of a plane and taking flight. Why, if you can't drive at that age, what were you doing in the sky?
JAMAIL LARKINS, AEROBAT: Well, you can start taking flying lessons at any age and I had the chance of flying since the age of 12 and since then I've had a chance to fly over 700 hours in 36 different types of aircraft, everything from small engine airplanes like the Cirrus SR-20 to small regional business jet like the Cessna Citation business jet.
LIN: What does a 12-year-old look behind the wheel of a plane?
LARKINS: Looks like someone who is having a lot of fun at the controls, doing something they never thought they'd have a chance to do.
LIN: And how old were you when you flew a Boeing 767? A major passenger plane?
LARKINS: I had a chance to do training in commercial airplanes, simulators since I was 14. Every since, every couple of years I get some good stick time in some of those simulators.
LIN: Were you thinking about being a pilot or astronaut?
LARKINS: Definitely. I love flying and I'm going to continue to fly as long as I possibly can. Flying is unbelievable. It's unlike anything else you'll get the chance to ever do.
LIN: What do you mean? What's it like when you're up there?
LARKINS: It's so much fun but at the same time it's challenging and interesting. Every flight you go on is going to be different than the last night you took. So it's never the same old, same old. It's always something new, and always going to be challenging and it's going to be a lot of fun.
LIN: Did you ever have a scary moment up there?
LARKINS: There's been a few things that happened as far as small emergencies since I've been in the cockpit.
LIN: Name one.
LARKINS: I've had some engine sputters electrical fail failures, but you do so much training when those situations happen, you typically can take care of them fairly easily.
LIN: All right. How old were you when you had your first engine sputter.
LARKINS: My first engine sputter happened when I was 17.
LIN: Usually we're stalling on the highway, but no, Jamail's up there 30,000 feet in the air. So the FAA has contacted you because not only do you have so much flight time but you started your own company. What kind of a company is it?
LARKINS: I have a small aviation sales and advertising company. I started that when I was 15. Basically what happened was the Federal Aviation Administration is very interested in educating young people about their career opportunities in the aviation and the aerospace industry, and once I discovered that, we started working together on some of their programs, and we had the opportunity to formalize our partnership last week actually in Washington, DC.
LIN: So what are you going to be doing for the FAA?
LARKINS: The administrator Blakey and all of her staff are very dedicated to getting young people involved in aviation, so I'm going to be traveling all across the country working with them, educating young people about their career opportunities in aviation, as well as letting everybody of all ages realize all of the opportunities and benefits that the aviation industry provides them every single day.
LIN: And it's not just the thrill of getting behind the wheel of a plane and taking flight. There's also very physical training that goes into the preparation for some of the aerobatics that you do.
LARKINS: Definitely. Inside of my aerobatic experience, I experience anything from positive seven Gs to negative five. So sometimes I can weigh literally over 1,000 pounds if I was to step on a scale, other times I have over 600 pounds of pressure trying to eject me completely outside myself cockpit.
LIN: That sounds painful.
LARKINS: It is painful but it's a lot of fun at the same time. There's nothing like rolling an airplane inverted and hanging from the straps looking up at the ground.
LIN: And I'm reminded by our control room that it's not the wheel of the plane but the controls.
LARKINS: Yes.
LIN: All right. At the helm. Thanks very much, Jamail. Good luck with the campaign. Sounds like you're going to get a lot of kids interested. Math science and physicalness of flying.
LARKINS: Exactly.
LIN: Good luck to you.
LARKINS: Thank you.
LIN: In the meantime, when CNN LIVE SUNDAY returns, it's the latest trend, a finger dipped in purple ink. CNN's Jeanne Moos with more on that as only she can tell us and this new badge of honor.
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LIN: Pointing fingers isn't always a bad thing, not when it's making a statement about Iraq. Fingertips that come in various shades are the latest political accessory. Though your manicurist may not approve. Here's CNN's Jeanne Moos.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Are they hailing a cab? Are they testing the wind? Are they testing their peripheral vision? You can sum up the latest patriotic trend in two words -- got ink?
(on camera) Move over middle finger. The index finger is the new finger of choice!
(voice-over) It's a gesture of homage to Iraqis brave enough to vote, purple ink to prevent people from voting more than once became a badge of honor. For Iraqis who voted in the U.S. a finger was worth 1,000 words.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have the purple finger to prove it.
MOOS: Now Congressmen are flaunting it on TV. Folks made a point of pointing their fingers at the state of the union. Websites are posting photos people send in of their upraised index fingers. In shades ranging from blue to purple to turquoise, poised on a trigger sent by a soldier in Iraq. Some display a single digit, some prefer the victory or peace sign. This Iraqi woman at the state of the union combined the two. This GOP website credits a 10-year-old Montana girl for inspiring others to dye their fingers. For her efforts, Shelby Dangerfield got to meet the president when he visited Montana Thursday. Comedy shows may joke about it.
JON STEWART: Is that ink?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, funny story, that's from Hassan, my translator. He voted earlier before we, uhhh ... MOOS: One political website offered a recipe for a cocktail called "the purple finger," made from grenadine, cassis, made from black currants and vodka. From us the purple finger got the -
(on camera) Thumbs down.
(voice-over) Another Website set up by this University of Michigan laws student calls itself "Give Terror the Finger." OK. Not everybody is using their index finger to make a political point, but not since ET cast this shadow across movie screens has a finger been to so poignant. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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LIN: That's all the time we have for this hour. Coming up next, PEOPLE IN THE NEWS profiles Robert Blake and at 8:00 CNN PRESENTS "Fat Chance." America is facing a fat epidemic and CNN shows how people shed pounds and keep them off and then stay tuned at 9:00 p.m. for LARRY KING. And of course I'll be back 10:00 Eastern for CNN SUNDAY NIGHT. We've got an exclusive report on the insurgents.
But first, though, a check of the headlines after the break
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LIN: I'm Carol Lin. PEOPLE IN THE NEWS in just a moment but first a look at what's happening right now.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says it is a hopeful time in the Middle East. America's top diplomat met with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ahead of Tuesday's Mid-East summit.
And tragedy in Eastern Spain. 18 Spaniards have been found dead in a mountain hostel from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning. The victims aged from 25 to 40 years old had gathered there to celebrate a birthday.
And Ford Motor Company is announcing another major recall. The automaker is calling back nearly 359,000 Ford Focus cars because of a
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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR, CNN LIVE SUNDAY: He is hoarse and frail, but the pope's mere appearance is the answer to millions of prayers.
And he is the man who helped bring down Richard Nixon and the most famous anonymous source in mystery. But is deep throat near death and does that mean we're going to find out who it is? Also --
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FRANK BUCKLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He looks like any other MBA student at Notre Dame, until you see how Jason Frei was wounded in Iraq.
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LIN: When you meet this former Marine you know why we say semper Frei. It is February 6th, Super Bowl Sunday and you are watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
From CNN's global headquarters in Atlanta, I'm Carol Lin and here is what's happening right now in the news. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says it is time, a hopeful time in the Middle East. The nation's top diplomat met with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon today ahead of Tuesday' mideast summit.
And there was a tragedy in eastern Spain. Eighteen Spaniards have been found dead in a mountain hostel from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning. The victims are only about 25 to 40 years old. They had gathered there to celebrate a birthday.
And Ford Motor Company is announcing another major recall. The auto maker is calling back nearly 359,000 Ford Focus cars because of a potential problem with their rear door latches. It is the second recall for Ford in as many weeks.
Right now, we begin with the not so subtle warning and a defiant response. The rhetoric is heating up between the United States and Iran. Days after President Bush called the country the world's primary state sponsor of terror, Iran is firing back. Not literally, but seriously enough that we turn to CNN White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux.
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In this year's state of the union address, President Bush did not call Iran the axis of evil, but it was pretty close.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today, Iran remains the world's primary state sponsor of terror, pursuing nuclear weapons while depriving its people of the freedom they seek and deserve.
MALVEAUX: On this day, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator fired back saying any aggressive military action by the U.S. would be answered in kind.
HASSAN ROHANI, IRAN'S SUPREME NATL SEC. COUN. (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I don't think America itself will take such a risk because America knows very well that we will strongly answer such an attack. The Americans are well aware of our capabilities. They know our capabilities for retaliating against such attack.
MALVEAUX: But top White House officials insist the U.S. is working with its European allies on a diplomatic solution to convince Tehran to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
DICK CHENEY, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think there's a good faith effort under way by our European allies to try to resolve this matter diplomatically. We support that effort.
MALVEAUX: But Bush critics say the president needs to do more. While Britain, France and Germany offered economic and diplomatic incentives to motivate Iran to suspend its nuclear program, the Bush administration is holding out.
MADELEINE ALBRIGHT, FMR. SECRETARY OF STATE: We can't be waiting for a change in regime in Iran, then also it seems that even the reformers are eager to have some kind of a nuclear capability.
SEN. JOHN McCAIN (R) ARIZONA: We can't take the military option completely off the table, but we can't saber rattle either.
MALVEAUX: One former secretary of state warns if Mr. Bush's policy is not successful, the consequences could be dire.
HENRY KISSINGER, FMR. SECRETARY OF STATE: If nuclear weapons spread to Iran, the genie will be really totally out of the bottle and we will live in a different world with huge risks for mankind.
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MALVEAUX: And a clear sign that the administration's strategy is to downplay any potential conflict with Iran, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld appeared on four talk shows. On the subject of Iran though, he had very little to say. Carol.
LIN: Suzanne, do you know whether the Bush administration has military options on the table right now regarding Iran?
MALVEAUX: What the Bush administration says is that they have all options on the table. They're certainly ruling it out but it is not a priority. It is unrealistic. We did hear from Cheney several weeks ago, talking about perhaps the scenario of Israel striking those nuclear sites inside of Iran. Those particular sites, but as far as the United States is concerned, that very much is seen as an unrealistic possibility militarily, also diplomatically, they do not think that it would be wise.
LIN: Suzanne Malveaux live at the White House.
Let's talk about what's happening right here at home. Two phrases being bandied about on Capitol Hill, belly up versus long-term challenge. Those are very different terms Republicans and Democrats are using today to describe the future of Social Security. Now Vice President Dick Cheney promoted the White House proposal to privatize part of the program to stop it from going broke, but he acknowledged the government would have to borrow more than $750 billion in the next decade and trillions more after that. Democrats say President Bush is overstating Social Security's problems.
In the meantime, looking weak and barely able to talk, Pope John Paul II made a public appearance from his hospital window today, his first, since he was taken ill with a respiratory infection. Our Walter Rodgers in Rome says the pope had a special message for anyone who believes he can no longer lead the Roman Catholic Church.
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WALTER RODGERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Those who prayed for the recovery of his holiness Pope John Paul II this past week saw their prayers answered on Sunday, when his holiness appeared at a bedroom window at the Gemelli hospital, the pope appearing to bless the faithful. He was in a wheelchair and it was his first public appearance since his angelus delivered from the Vatican, his bedroom window there Sunday a week ago. In that appearance, it's thought that the pope may have been exposed to too much cold.
On Monday it was announced he had flu, and there were complications on Tuesday, breathing problems, respiratory difficulty, such that his holiness was rushed to this hospital. There was considerable anxiety about his health. A watch was established, hundreds of television cameras set up outside this hospital, but the pope appeared in public today, albeit in a wheelchair and delivered a brief blessing, showing his frailty and hoarse, but nonetheless, showing the world that he is recovering.
POPE JOHN PAUL II: (INAUDIBLE)
RODGERS: His holiness Pope John Paul saying in Latin, of course, "in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit." Those are the only words he managed in this public appearance. The principal angelus, that is to say the message and the prayer which the pope delivers every Sunday, were actually read by one of his aides, Archbishop Leonardo Sandry (ph), the archbishop saying that the pope thanked the world for those who prayed for him, thanked the doctors and the pope also had a very pointed message in that angelus today that is he going to stay firmly on the throne of St. Peter here in the Vatican. He is not going to relinquish his authority as the pope. At the Vatican itself in St. Peter's Square, there were large video screens showing the pope's hospitalized message, reassuring the faithful, the scant several thousand pilgrims who were there that his holiness is indeed recovering from this illness. On Monday, at midday, the Vatican is expected to release another health bulletin. Walter Rodgers, CNN, Rome.
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LIN: Back here at home, there is no rest for the weary. The countdown is on for Super Bowl XXXIX. In about 20 minutes, the Philadelphia Eagles and the New England Patriots kick off the big game. So let's go live to the action in Jacksonville, Florida and CNN's Larry Smith on site there. Hi, Larry.
LARRY SMITH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, how are you? Good evening. The electricity is building here. A week of hype, two weeks of buildup are finally here. Patriots, Eagles just across the river about to kick off Super Bowl XXXIX. Now a lot of Eagles fans have come down from Philadelphia, even though they don't have tickets. One guy is ready to go. I mean, OK, why come down here from Philadelphia if you don't have a ticket? Just watch it at home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't need a ticket. It's a brotherhood. It's a fellowship all together, all together. It's a war! And we back up everyone of our soldiers.
SMITH: Tell me this, it's been 24 years since your last Super Bowl, 22 years since the last pro championship. I mean is it just so long coming that you had to be down here to be a part of the atmosphere?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So long coming, but guess what? We're talking about now. The past doesn't even matter. This is it. It's a new beginning and we're going on!
SMITH: As you can see, these guys are a little excited about the game. Make sure (ph) tonight though on the field over at the stadium, Terrell Owens, the pro-bowl wide receiver who broke his leg, right leg seven weeks ago will play in tonight's game. He is in uniform. He will be playing, and Eagles fans, as you can tell very psyched about that as well. For the Patriots, the defending Super Bowl champions try to win their third title in four years, depending on Tom Brady, twice a Super Bowl MVP. He is 8-0 in the playoffs. He is trying to now become, join only his boyhood idol, Joe Montana, as the only three-time Super Bowl MVP. So there you go.
I'm impartial, but as you can see here I've been donned an Eagles fan by these guys. Once again, the stadium, just across the river the fans are in there, nearly 80,000 in all. The city of Jacksonville excited. It's a little brisk right now as the winds are beginning to kick up. The sun is down. A little colder than it was this afternoon when everyone was out, but everyone very excited, 12th city ever to host a Super Bowl and here we go, 20 minutes to kickoff. Patriots and Eagles, we're back (ph) down to the game to tell you all about it. Let's go back to you. LIN: It looks like a beautiful day, thanks very much, Larry Smith.
In the meantime, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld goes on the defensive again about when U.S. troops will leave Iraq. Hear what he had to say straight ahead on CNN LIVE SUNDAY. Also -
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: stop about here, came through, hit me there, the blast took off most of my hand.
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LIN: Our segment on the front lines, a U.S. Marine wounded in the early days of the war in Iraq. Losing a hand has not kept him from living.
Also, the BTK killer, what are his motives for resurfacing again after all of these years?
And is deep throat near death? New claims that if true, could soon lead to the unveiling of the famous Watergate source.
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LIN: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is again refusing calls to set a timetable to remove U.S. forces from Iraq. Now in the "The Washington Post" today, Senator Joseph Biden says the administration needs to level with America on when there will be enough Iraqis trained to replace American troops in Iraq. Now here's how Rumsfeld responded to that on CNN's LATE EDITION.
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DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: The problem with answering that question with a date is that you can't know what the level of the insurgency is going to be. You don't know to the extent to which Iran and Syria are going to misbehave or behave. You can't know the extent to which Zarqawi's money is going to flow in. He's hire more criminals or suicide bombers. So what you have to do is look at the conditions and the answer is that you see the conditions on the ground, and they may be higher or lower and the test is to see that the Iraqi security forces over time, can manage that level of insurgency, and we're working very hard to achieve that and so far, they've done a very good job.
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LIN: The secretary also left unclear how many Iraqi troops are capable of battling the insurgency right now.
Well a U.S. soldier has been killed in a roadside bomb attack in Iraq. It happened north of Baghdad and two other soldiers were wounded. There's word Iraqi security forces suffered heavy casualties in an attack a short time ago near Baghdad. The Associated Press reports insurgents, armed with automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades fired at a police station in Mahawil, an hour-long gunfire ensued. Now it was all over, 22 Iraqi security forces and 14 attackers were dead.
Four Egyptian workers have been taken hostage also in Iraq. Egyptians were seized outside their home in western Baghdad this morning. They had been working for a telecommunications company in Iraq for about a year.
Now the political front, a key Sunni Muslim group tells CNN it will not participate in drafting a new constitution until coalition forces leave. The association of Muslim scholars says the government won't be legitimate, because so many Sunnis boycotted last week's vote. It's asking the United Nations to refuse to endorse the results which are expected later this week.
Iraq confirms it's holding a general also who served under Saddam Hussein. Authorities say 51-year-old, this general, was captured in December. He is being held on suspicion of financing insurgent attacks and plotting attacks aimed at disrupting the election.
Now every week, about this time, we bring you the more personal stories from the front lines. Today we revisit the story of a U.S. Marine whose life was turned upside down after he lost an arm just as the war broke out in Iraq. CNN's Frank Buckley caught up with Captain Jason Frei to see how he's recovered and what he's doing now.
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FRANK BUCKLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He looks like any other MBA student at Notre Dame, until you see how Jason Frei was wounded in Iraq. It happened just days after the war began, just moments after this picture was taken. In March, 2003, Marine Captain Jason Frei was commanding an artillery battery, racing through Iraq. Frei was sitting in the passenger seat of this Humvee, when a rocket- propelled grenade slammed into its side.
CAPT. JASON FREI: The RPG came in from the back and just took my arm off.
BUCKLEY: The door of the Humvee is on display at Camp Pendleton. Frei showed it to us last summer.
FREI: The RPG came in, you can see here from the back, and hit the door right here. It probably came through, my arm stops about here, came through, hit me there. The blast took off most of my hand, and a good chunk of my forearm.
BUCKLEY: It was a life-threatening moment that would force a life changing decision. The Naval academy graduate, the career Marine chose to leave the Marine corps. How difficult was it for you to walk away from that?
FREI: That was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Because you're not in the Marines. You are a Marine. BUCKLEY: But Frei knew that while he was leaving one family, the Marine Corps, his other family was growing. His 3-year-old Molly, and 4-year-old Robby, gained a new little brother, Tommy, who was born after Frei came home from the war.
FREI: That's a gift and every day when I come home, you see him and you can say wow! That's something, that's a person that might not have happened.
BUCKLEY: Because Frei didn't die on that battlefield in Iraq, and losing a hand hasn't kept him from living. He counsels future officers in the ROTC about what he's experienced. He'll have an MBA from Notre Dame in 2006.
(on-camera): And he is still leading. Fellow MBA students elected him class president.
(voice-over): He's become so used to using the prosthetic that replaced his arm that Jason's wife, Valerie, says he refuses her help. Jason says he can do anything. Is that true?
VALERIE FREI, JASON FREI'S WIFE: Almost anything. He can not juggle anymore, and the other thing he can not do is walk across the street holding his little girl and little boy's hand. He's adapted to that and now he says "hooks and hands, hooks and hands." And they take his hook and they take his hand and he can walk them across the street.
BUCKLEY: Before the war, Valerie had videotaped Jason playing with the children, not just so remind them of daddy, but also just in case. That fear nearly realized when the RPG hit, but the ambush that nearly killed him, that did take his arm, left Jason Frei more grateful than ever about the family he loves, and the life he still has.
FREI: Until you have something that important to you almost taken away, I don't think you can really appreciate it and I am very thankful for the things that I have.
BUCKLEY: Frank Buckley, CNN, South Bend, Indiana.
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LIN: Strength from tragedy.
Consider these words, please don't go. That is the message to the U.S. military in another part of the world. Straight ahead, why many Indonesian survivors of the deadly tsunami like having U.S. troops there.
And back in this country, the debate over same-sex marriages. One couple's quest for a legal union.
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LIN: I've got some news from around the world right now. NATO troops and rescue crews are stymied in their efforts to reach the wreckage of an Afghan passenger jet right on top of a remote mountain. More than 100 people on board are believed to have died. Several of the victims are Americans. It was foggy up there, and there's up to eight feet of snow and that's just making efforts to get to the site very complicated.
Also new tension in the nation of Togo. Togo's prime minister announced on television Saturday that the death of the country's president is making things complicated. The army installed the president's son as the new leader. Togo's parliament hastily amended the constitution to allow that succession. French troops have been put on alert, should they be needed to protect French citizens living in the West African nation.
Official results from Thailand's election won't be in until Wednesday, but the prime minister there (INAUDIBLE) is already claiming a historic re-election victory. In fact, it's an unprecedented second term.
It sure looks like U.S. troops have won the hearts and minds of the tsunami victims in the tsunami ravaged province of Banda Aceh. Many locals are now sorry that they are actually going to be leaving. CNN's Becky Diamond has that story.
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BECKY DIAMOND, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Before the tsunami destroyed his home, 11-year-old Rian Mustafa didn't know anything about the United States. Now he doesn't want this country he had never heard of to leave. He says he feels safer knowing the United States is here and he also thinks the U.S. soldiers are pretty cool.
RIAN MUSTAFA, 11-YEARS OLD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): They are different from the Indonesian military. The American troops are in better shape.
DIAMOND: As U.S. military forces begin to pull out of Aceh, they leave behind changing perceptions of America.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I used to think that the U.S. was an arrogant super power from the news reports, but now, after the tsunami, I can see that they help us when we are in need (ph). They really want to help the people of Aceh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I thank God the U.S. is helping us. God will repay them.
DIAMOND: There's another reason the U.S. military is welcome here. The people of Aceh province live under martial law, because separatists are waging a guerilla war against the Indonesian army. Having American soldiers here gave many a sense of security, as well as much needed supplies.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): When I see the American troops, I trust them. They do more to help the people than the Indonesian troops. I don't want them to leave. DIAMOND: While most locals seem to appreciate the American presence in Aceh, some Indonesians are wary of U.S. influence, like this religious leader.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The Acehnese (ph) are Muslims. America brings in inappropriate ethics and doesn't understand the Acehnese social customs and special food considerations.
DIAMOND: Though dietary needs didn't seem to be uppermost in the minds of these Acehnese. The vast majority are grateful for the goods and the goodwill. Becky Diamond, CNN, Banda Aceh, Indonesia.
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LIN: Coming up, is the most famous anonymous source in history near death? Straight ahead, what a former Nixon administration insider says is being done to prepare for that name to be revealed.
Plus the BTK killer, why resurface after all these years? I'm going to be talking with a former FBI insider.
And charged with murder in the deaths of her three children, police say a mother admits to taking their lives. You're watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
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LIN: Welcome back. Here's a quick look at what's happening right now in the news. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is in the Middle East for meetings with Israeli and Palestinian leaders. In Jerusalem, Condoleezza Rice tells CNN a prime U.S. concern is to help stabilize the situation and train Palestinian security forces to fight terrorism.
President Bush has called Iran "the world's leading sponsor of terrorism." Now Iran is lashing back. Iranian officials say the U.S. has no right to criticize Iran while supporting quote, "a Zionist terrorist group."
More than 80,000 Super Bowl fans are packing Alltel Stadium in Jacksonville, Florida under a heavy blanked of security. Dozens of law enforcement agencies are operating on the stands, and on the streets, in the air, on the river and in cyberspace to prevent any possible terror attack.
Rap mogul Suge night is in Barstow, California, and in a jail there, on suspicion of violating his parole. Police say they found marijuana in his truck last night during a traffic stop. The cofounder of Death Row Records has a criminal record for assault and weapons violations.
Deep Throat is probably one of the most protected sources in American politics. Well now it appears that that identity of the man who delivered the goods to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein during Watergate may be revealed. Bob Woodward promised to ID him after he died. As our Howard Kurtz reports, there's word that Deep Throat is very ill.
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ROBERT REDFORD, ACTOR: Story is stalled on us.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you thought I'd help?
HOWARD KURTZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT, (voice-over): He's the most famous secret source in journalistic history, the man who whispered Watergate secrets to Bob Woodward in a parking garage, played by Hal Holbrook in the movie "All the President's Men." More than three decades later, could we be closer to learning the identity of Deep Throat? John Dean, the Nixon White House aide who went to jail over the Watergate cover-up says we might.
Writing in Sunday's "Los Angeles Times," Dean says that Deep Throat, the man, we do know he is a man, who helped bring down President Nixon, is ill. What's worse, says Dean, Woodward told the editor of "the Washington Post" about the illness. How exactly does Dean know this? He's got his own Deep Throat, a source he won't identify who gave him the information.
Woodward declined to comment Sunday about any alleged illness but confirmed that former "Post" editor, Ben Bradley, the only other person besides Woodward and Carl Bernstein who knows Throat's identity, has said publicly that the obituary is already written. At the very least, "The Post" has the material ready.
Journalists are increasingly on the defensive about their use of confidential sources. "New York Times" reporter Judith Miller and "Time Magazine's" Matt Cooper are facing possible jail terms for failing to disclose which Bush administration official or officials talked to them about Valerie Plame, the CIA operative who was leaked to columnist and CNN CROSSFIRE host Bob Novak. Other journalists could face jail in the case of Wen Ho Lee, the former nuclear weapons scientists, suing to find out who gave his name to reporters, including one former CNN correspondent.
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Last week's opening of an exhibit of Woodward and Bernstein's paper in the University of Texas rekindled interest in Deep Throat, who is still held up as a good source, a classic example of a whistleblower who need to be protected by the press. But who was Deep Throat? What was his motivation and why did he betray Richard Nixon? If John Dean is right we may soon be able to answer those lingering questions. Howard Kurtz, CNN, Washington.
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LIN: The current executive editor of "the Post" Len Downey tells Howard Kurtz that Bob Woodward has not actually contacted him to say that Deep Throat is ill.
Meantime, another decade's long mystery is back in the deadlines. The notorious BTK killer, who is linked to eight unsolved murders in Kansas has apparently resurfaced again sending letters to the media and the police. The latest communication was received just last week so what is he up to and why is he resurfacing now and what does it say about the killer? Joining me with insight as always, former FBI special agent Don Clark. Don, you heard about this latest postcard to KAKE TV.
DON CLARK, FORMER FBI AGENT: Yes, Carol, I have.
LIN: Do you think it's the real deal, do you think it is him?
CLARK: Well, it certainly sounds like him, Carol. Let's look back in history, 31 plus years ago, this guy destroyed a family. Then he gave himself a name, that in and of itself is just a tad odd. Some serial killers don't usually do that, so it's almost like "I'm here. I'm back again, and I want to you know that I'm here again." And that's what it seems to me like it's a little bit of seeking out attention.
LIN: Giving his name, BTK, bind, torture and kill. In this postcard, we don't know what the contents are. The television station gave it to police because apparently it contained a message to police, and then the sender actually thanks the television station for its quick response to two previous messages, even giving some personal details about the news anchors there, the long time news anchors there having contracted colds and that he felt sorry for them. What is this man trying to do?
CLARK: Well, profilers are going to have a field day with this. But, again, when you look at what he's doing I think he's really trying to bring a lot more attention to himself, and it's almost like a punch counterpoint is that I can be a little bit smarter than you guys trying to get me. But here's the key, Carol. What I really think is that the law enforcement has to concentrate really on that postcard and on the message in there, because there may be some better leads in this particular postcard than there have been in some of the others to follow. For ...
LIN: What do you decipher, Don? Let's say they read the postcard. We don't know what the wording is but what are they looking for and how do they crack the code?
CLARK: Well, it may not necessarily be what it says, but how it says and where the location might be. I think one thing that could fairly be concluded is that for him to have known what he has known about, what he said about the anchors and the colds and so forth meant that hey, I'm definitely in the viewing area. So that in and of itself narrows down a particular area that this guy could very well be in, which gives the law enforcement really something to look at now, because it brings it a lot closer. Those are the types of things, Carol, that I think they really have to look deep for, that type of a lead.
LIN: Well, I hate to say this, but if the BTK killer was really looking for attention, he would go out and kill again, as he has not done in a number of years. Does this indicate to you his physical state perhaps, that he is incapable of committing those crimes again, but he still wants to make headlines?
CLARK: Well, let's hope so. Let's hope that maybe he is incapable of doing that and that's the reason that he hasn't done it before, because clearly, Carol, this type of person, who has done these eight murders, is capable of killing again. He's done it eight times and I think he could certainly do it again. So if that's the case, then we're all a lot better off for it. I think that area, again, within that television viewing area, has to be the one that has to really be concerned about their safety in that community area.
LIN: Witchita, Kansas, all right. The FBI knows things that we don't know right now. How do they authenticate this note? Maybe it's just a hoax.
CLARK: Well, it could be, but you know, we're not in that war room, if you will, as to where all of this information, and again, they have significant other information that we don't know about, and Carol, they're going to go piece by piece, and try and put the pieces of this puzzle together, and unfortunately, or I should say fortunately there has not been a recent killing here for them to have fresh evidence for us, so they really have to deal in the history, but if they keep going back to the evidence that they have, the postcards, the message and keep trying to reanalyze that and work together, who knows, a clue may pop up.
LIN: Do you think serial killers want to be caught in a way?
CLARK: You know, we've seen both types and I'll get on a slippery slope, because I'm not a profiler but I've worked with enough of them to know that yes, there are some that are kind of begging for that kind of attention but by and large, the ones that I have been involved in, which is at least been two or three, that they didn't intend to get caught. Eventually, they just run out of rope and they do get caught. But I don't think most of them intend to get caught but some do want to get caught.
LIN: You know what, these families are waiting for that day. Don Clark, thank you very much.
CLARK: You bet, thank you, Carol.
LIN: First, a shocking discovery. Three children starved to death in their Huntsville, Alabama, home, and now according to authorities, a disturbing confession. Their mother told police it was not an accident.
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LIN (voice-over): The mother of the three children found dead in this Alabama apartment is now charged with capital murder. Huntsville police say 33-year-old Natashay Ward deliberately starved her son and two daughters to death. Police report that the disturbing confession came late Friday night. Earlier this day, emergency workers responding to a distress call at the home, found the bodies.
WENDELL JOHNSON, HUNTSVILLE, AL POLICE: The utilities had been turned off since January 12th. The children had been missing from school. They never returned to Ridgecrest after the school break.
LIN: 11-year-old Shanieka, 9-year-old Latricia, and Christopher, just 8, were found fully clothed, lying on the floor in separate bedrooms that had no beds. They appeared malnourished.
JOHNSON: Please try not to speculate, read anything, and go on rumors and innuendoes. This may be a long and extensive investigation.
LIN: Grieving family members say they tried to give the mother money for the electric bill, but Natashay Ward would not let them in. State social services called on the family in December, but no one answered the door. It is unclear when the children died. Neighbor Eddie Love says he last saw the family two weeks ago.
EDDIE LOVE, NEIGHBOR: They crossed the street upstairs and I used to see them going back and forth after school and we used to walk over there together and she never did talk much.
LIN: When the bodies were discovered Friday, the children's father was at the scene, so was their grandmother, whom police believe called 911. Both are being questioned. Neither lived with the family.
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LIN (on camera): A full autopsy report is expected in two weeks. In the meantime, the mother is being held without bail at the Madison County Jail.
Straight ahead on CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (on camera): We're just glad that we have the opportunity to have that equality that everyone else has and we did not.
LIN: They went to court to earn the right to marry, but how long will this lesbian couple keep that right?
And he's been flying planes longer than he's been driving a car and check out these moves. I'm going to talk to this young pilot who certainly has the right stuff.
Among the most popular story this is hour on CNN.com, 18 people are dead following an apparent gas leak at a hostel in Spain. Iran says president bush should not point fingers when it comes to terror.
And Vice President Dick Cheney says he absolutely is not interested in becoming president. Click on to CNN.com for more details.
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LIN: New York City's mayor says the city will appeal a court decision regarding same-sex marriage. The city is looking to a higher court to decide on the issue. We've got more now from CNN's Mary Snow.
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MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For the first time in their 23 years together, Jo-Ann Shain and Mary Jo Kennedy are close to making what they call their ordinary life part of history.
MARY JO KENNEDY, PLAINTIFF: All my life I never thought this day would come, so it's all the more wonderful.
SNOW: Shane and Kennedy are among five couples who have taken the front line in a fight to legalize same-sex marriages in New York City, saying civil unions aren't enough.
KENNEDY: I equate it with sitting at the back of the bus. The bus takes everybody to the same place, but it's not the same experience.
SNOW: They credit their 16-year-old daughter, Aliya, with inspiring them.
ALIYA SHAIN, COUPLE'S DAUGHTER: They always taught me to go what you fight for. It's time for them to practice what they he preach and go for it.
SNOW: Shain, Kennedy and four other couples celebrated when a New York State judge ruled that the ban on same-sex marriages in New York is unconstitutional. The judge stayed her ruling for 30 days. New York's mayor, who supports same-sex marriages, says the city will appeal. He wants to avoid what happened in San Francisco, when gay couples got the green light to get married, and it was later retracted.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, MAYOR OF NEW YORK: But we are going to follow the law, and I think if we did not appeal this, we would have chaos in this city.
SNOW: A New York political party opposed the ruling.
MICHAEL LONG, NY STATE CONSERVATIVE PARTY: The judge is rewriting laws, in fact, the law is very clear in New York State that marriage is between a man and a woman.
SNOW: Mary Jo Kennedy and Jo-Ann Shain know their fight is far from over but say they won't back down.
KENNEDY: There's more hurdles to overcome but we really look forward to the day that we can actually be spouses.
SNOW: Mary Snow, CNN, New York.
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LIN: Elsewhere across America, abortion rights and stem cell research advocates want an appeal of a Chicago judge's decision that an embryo is a human being. A fertility clinic accidentally destroyed nine embryos a couple had stored there. A judge Friday ruled they could sue the clinic for wrongful death because Illinois state law says legal personhood begins at conception.
A railroad company has fired three crew members over the January 6th freight train crash that killed nine people in South Carolina. Norfolk Southern says the engineer, conductor and brakemen failed to switch a track.
Officials don't yet know why a CSX train carrying new trails derailed today south of Cartersville, Ohio. There were no injuries.
We've got a fantastic story here and wonderful guest. Most young people may not know the difference between aerobatics and aerobics but Jamail Larkins does. At 21 he is the youngest aerobatics air show performer in America, besides being a pilot and president of his own company and an ambassador for the FAA at this tender age. Jamail Larkins joins me now.
Jamail, the reason why we invited you on not just your extraordinary history of starting at such a young age flying, but the FAA recruited you for help. I want to get to that in a moment, but let's look at your background. You actually started at the tender age of 12 getting behind the wheel of a plane and taking flight. Why, if you can't drive at that age, what were you doing in the sky?
JAMAIL LARKINS, AEROBAT: Well, you can start taking flying lessons at any age and I had the chance of flying since the age of 12 and since then I've had a chance to fly over 700 hours in 36 different types of aircraft, everything from small engine airplanes like the Cirrus SR-20 to small regional business jet like the Cessna Citation business jet.
LIN: What does a 12-year-old look behind the wheel of a plane?
LARKINS: Looks like someone who is having a lot of fun at the controls, doing something they never thought they'd have a chance to do.
LIN: And how old were you when you flew a Boeing 767? A major passenger plane?
LARKINS: I had a chance to do training in commercial airplanes, simulators since I was 14. Every since, every couple of years I get some good stick time in some of those simulators.
LIN: Were you thinking about being a pilot or astronaut?
LARKINS: Definitely. I love flying and I'm going to continue to fly as long as I possibly can. Flying is unbelievable. It's unlike anything else you'll get the chance to ever do.
LIN: What do you mean? What's it like when you're up there?
LARKINS: It's so much fun but at the same time it's challenging and interesting. Every flight you go on is going to be different than the last night you took. So it's never the same old, same old. It's always something new, and always going to be challenging and it's going to be a lot of fun.
LIN: Did you ever have a scary moment up there?
LARKINS: There's been a few things that happened as far as small emergencies since I've been in the cockpit.
LIN: Name one.
LARKINS: I've had some engine sputters electrical fail failures, but you do so much training when those situations happen, you typically can take care of them fairly easily.
LIN: All right. How old were you when you had your first engine sputter.
LARKINS: My first engine sputter happened when I was 17.
LIN: Usually we're stalling on the highway, but no, Jamail's up there 30,000 feet in the air. So the FAA has contacted you because not only do you have so much flight time but you started your own company. What kind of a company is it?
LARKINS: I have a small aviation sales and advertising company. I started that when I was 15. Basically what happened was the Federal Aviation Administration is very interested in educating young people about their career opportunities in the aviation and the aerospace industry, and once I discovered that, we started working together on some of their programs, and we had the opportunity to formalize our partnership last week actually in Washington, DC.
LIN: So what are you going to be doing for the FAA?
LARKINS: The administrator Blakey and all of her staff are very dedicated to getting young people involved in aviation, so I'm going to be traveling all across the country working with them, educating young people about their career opportunities in aviation, as well as letting everybody of all ages realize all of the opportunities and benefits that the aviation industry provides them every single day.
LIN: And it's not just the thrill of getting behind the wheel of a plane and taking flight. There's also very physical training that goes into the preparation for some of the aerobatics that you do.
LARKINS: Definitely. Inside of my aerobatic experience, I experience anything from positive seven Gs to negative five. So sometimes I can weigh literally over 1,000 pounds if I was to step on a scale, other times I have over 600 pounds of pressure trying to eject me completely outside myself cockpit.
LIN: That sounds painful.
LARKINS: It is painful but it's a lot of fun at the same time. There's nothing like rolling an airplane inverted and hanging from the straps looking up at the ground.
LIN: And I'm reminded by our control room that it's not the wheel of the plane but the controls.
LARKINS: Yes.
LIN: All right. At the helm. Thanks very much, Jamail. Good luck with the campaign. Sounds like you're going to get a lot of kids interested. Math science and physicalness of flying.
LARKINS: Exactly.
LIN: Good luck to you.
LARKINS: Thank you.
LIN: In the meantime, when CNN LIVE SUNDAY returns, it's the latest trend, a finger dipped in purple ink. CNN's Jeanne Moos with more on that as only she can tell us and this new badge of honor.
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LIN: Pointing fingers isn't always a bad thing, not when it's making a statement about Iraq. Fingertips that come in various shades are the latest political accessory. Though your manicurist may not approve. Here's CNN's Jeanne Moos.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Are they hailing a cab? Are they testing the wind? Are they testing their peripheral vision? You can sum up the latest patriotic trend in two words -- got ink?
(on camera) Move over middle finger. The index finger is the new finger of choice!
(voice-over) It's a gesture of homage to Iraqis brave enough to vote, purple ink to prevent people from voting more than once became a badge of honor. For Iraqis who voted in the U.S. a finger was worth 1,000 words.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have the purple finger to prove it.
MOOS: Now Congressmen are flaunting it on TV. Folks made a point of pointing their fingers at the state of the union. Websites are posting photos people send in of their upraised index fingers. In shades ranging from blue to purple to turquoise, poised on a trigger sent by a soldier in Iraq. Some display a single digit, some prefer the victory or peace sign. This Iraqi woman at the state of the union combined the two. This GOP website credits a 10-year-old Montana girl for inspiring others to dye their fingers. For her efforts, Shelby Dangerfield got to meet the president when he visited Montana Thursday. Comedy shows may joke about it.
JON STEWART: Is that ink?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah, funny story, that's from Hassan, my translator. He voted earlier before we, uhhh ... MOOS: One political website offered a recipe for a cocktail called "the purple finger," made from grenadine, cassis, made from black currants and vodka. From us the purple finger got the -
(on camera) Thumbs down.
(voice-over) Another Website set up by this University of Michigan laws student calls itself "Give Terror the Finger." OK. Not everybody is using their index finger to make a political point, but not since ET cast this shadow across movie screens has a finger been to so poignant. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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LIN: That's all the time we have for this hour. Coming up next, PEOPLE IN THE NEWS profiles Robert Blake and at 8:00 CNN PRESENTS "Fat Chance." America is facing a fat epidemic and CNN shows how people shed pounds and keep them off and then stay tuned at 9:00 p.m. for LARRY KING. And of course I'll be back 10:00 Eastern for CNN SUNDAY NIGHT. We've got an exclusive report on the insurgents.
But first, though, a check of the headlines after the break
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LIN: I'm Carol Lin. PEOPLE IN THE NEWS in just a moment but first a look at what's happening right now.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says it is a hopeful time in the Middle East. America's top diplomat met with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ahead of Tuesday's Mid-East summit.
And tragedy in Eastern Spain. 18 Spaniards have been found dead in a mountain hostel from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning. The victims aged from 25 to 40 years old had gathered there to celebrate a birthday.
And Ford Motor Company is announcing another major recall. The automaker is calling back nearly 359,000 Ford Focus cars because of a
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