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Pope's Health; Super Bowl XXXIX

Aired February 07, 2005 - 05:43   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Pope John Paul II seems determined to show the world he can still lead the Roman Catholic Church. He got out of his hospital bed to bless the faithful in person.

Let's head live to Rome and our Alessio Vinci, because I understand there's another update on the condition of the pope, and that really hasn't come since last Friday. So tell us -- Alessio.

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Carol, we are expecting this update here in Rome in about 10 or 15 minutes time. We're waiting to hear from the Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro Valls. So we do not really know anything new other than the fact that we saw the pope for the first time ever since he was rushed to the hospital here on Tuesday night.

I was here, and I can tell you that the pope, to me at least, he appeared very much the same as he has in the last few years. That is -- you know he did look frail, he was speaking with some degree of difficulty, actually, very, very slowly. His voice did sound also still hoarse, obviously still recuperating from the flu and the respiratory infection that is the reason why he was rushed here in a hurry on Tuesday night.

He delivered a very, very short blessing, only a few words. I was, frankly, a little bit surprised to see the fact that even for him to read just those few words he actually needed a piece of paper to be able to follow the prayer that a Vatican official was reciting on his behalf. Vatican officials are telling us that this is the protocol, if you want. The pope always reads with a piece of paper in front of him.

The media here, Italian media especially has speculated that the pope actually did not deliver his blessing live, that it was a prerecorded tape, something of course the Vatican is flatly denying. So lots of rumors, if you want, surrounding the true state of the pope's health.

But nevertheless, for the first time in five days, we did see him yesterday. And he did look like pretty much a man who is determined, as I said, to lead the Catholic Church, determined to return to Vatican as soon as possible and resume his normal duties. We do know, however, that for the first time in his 25 years, more than 25 year's papacy, Pope John Paul II will not preside over on Wednesday the ceremonies at the Vatican marking the beginning of Lent.

Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: Alessio, a delicate question for you, why does the pope hang on? Why does he want to stay in his position, that's what I'm asking you?

VINCI: Well, I think that, first of all, the pope says just as Jesus Christ did not come off the cross suffering, he himself cannot resign from his duty as the successor apparent (ph). The pope has said all along that he has no intention to resign. He wants to stay on, that he wants to continue, that he still has something to do. And he also, I think, wants to send a clear message to other old and frail and sick people around the world that there is still room for them as well.

This is a pope that still has a great amount of authority, as I said, has a great amount of authority inside the Catholic Church. He does not run the day-to-day operations, of course that is in the hands of the Roman curia, if you want, which is the government of the church. But at the same time, he still believes that he still has a lot to say and a lot to do in terms of the doctrine, in terms of the main issues that the Catholic Church faces today, from abortion rights to many other issues. That the pope really still thinks that he has something to say, and therefore, he does not want to give up.

Also because, by the way, popes really can't resign. I mean there are simple (ph) reasons in the Carnal Law (ph), but the last time the pope resigned was 500 years ago. So he doesn't want to be the first one in such a long time -- Carol.

COSTELLO: All right, Alessio Vinci, reporting live from Rome this morning, thank you.

Your news, money, weather and sports. It's 5:47 Eastern. Here's what's all new this morning.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is meeting with the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. She's expected to offer a U.S. team to monitor this period of calm between the Israelis and Palestinians. She's also bringing a $350 million pledge from the United States to the Palestinians.

Standoff now under way in Bern, Switzerland, police say unidentified attackers, perhaps just one man, burst into the Spanish Consulate, and he may be holding hostages.

In money news, pump prices up again. A national survey finds the average price for self-serve regular gas rose more than six cents over the past two weeks.

And in culture, hundreds of Jamaicans march for peace on the 60th anniversary of reggae legend Bob Marley's birth. Organizers hoped the march would stop gun violence for the day.

And in sports, a look at one of the Big Ten's in college basketball. Top ranked Illinois remains unbeaten with a decisive victory over Indiana. They won 60 to 47. Think we should give the Super Bowl score out?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Some folks were not awake, Carol, didn't stay up. I bet we should.

COSTELLO: Well, surprise, surprise, the New England Patriots won.

MYERS: 24-21, didn't cover the seven points, as we expected.

(WEATHER REPORT)

Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad.

Those are the latest headlines for you this morning.

We're still going to talk Super Bowl this morning on DAYBREAK. And when we do, we want to know what was your favorite commercial during the game? It's our e-mail "Question of the Morning." DAYBREAK@CNN.com. DAYBREAK@CNN.com. Please e-mail this morning, we want to hear from you.

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: We have some information just in from Bern, Switzerland. We've been telling you about a hostage situation at the Spanish Consulate there. Well, we understand that hostage situation is now over. Three men apparently burst into the consulate and for a short time took the employees hostage in there. We believe there were 12 to 15 employees inside.

Well according to authorities, the hostage situation is now over. No one is being held hostage at this time. No one was hurt. And we do not know at this time who the hostage takers were, but we do know they're in custody. We will give you more information as we get it here into CNN.

We're going to take another break now. Is that true we're going to take another break? When we come back, we'll talk Super Bowl.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: OK, Chad, we're going to talk Super Bowl now, are you ready?

MYERS: I am, I'm ready.

COSTELLO: OK, you're going to get really tired of hearing the D word, you know, dynasty.

MYERS: All right. COSTELLO: Yes, until all the post Super Bowl hype is over. In case you missed it, and we know some of you did, the Patriots won the Super Bowl beating the Eagles 24-21.

CNN's Mark McKay takes it from there.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MARK MCKAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dynasty, it's not a word used lightly in professional sports. Yet, with the New England Patriots claiming their third Super Bowl victory in four years, it's a word being used to describe this team, even if the Patriots themselves refuse to use it.

ROMAN PHIFER, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: If that's the word you use, fine, but like I said, you know we're a humble group of guys. We're guys that care about each other and we're just out to win.

TOM BRADY, PATRIOTS QUARTERBACK: We've never really self- proclaimed ourselves anything, that's just not our style. So we just love playing ball.

DEION BRANCH, SUPER BOWL XXXIX MVP: They may say we still have to win another championship to be a dynasty, so I don't know. What do you think?

MCKAY: Call it what you'd like, there is every reason to believe that the Patriots can build on their current string of success, thanks to a solid foundation. A 27-year-old quarterback in Tom Brady who has never lost a playoff game, nor his humility.

BRADY: I've played four years and we've done some great things in those four years, and a lot of it is -- and the reason why we've done it is because we've got just a great group of guys. And I'm proud to be the quarterback and I love leading the group and I love taking us onto the field.

MATT LIGHT, PATRIOTS TACKLE: But I wouldn't trade him for anybody out there in the league. I mean this guy is a great guy to be around. He's a great guy to play with. But I think he'd be the first person to tell you that you know it's not just him, it's this entire team.

TROY BROWN, PATRIOTS RECEIVER: He's a pretty damn good quarterback, you know, he's pretty good. You know I wouldn't ask for anybody else in a situation like this but Tom Brady. You know he's brought me through these things and you know. And if anybody else wants to come win one, play with Tom Brady.

MCKAY (on camera): To measure Tom Brady's achievement in winning his third title, consider this, on the day before Super Bowl XXXIX, two quarterbacks, Dan Marino and Steve Young were declared all-time greats with their election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They retired with only one Super Bowl title between them. How many more Brady has at the end of his enchanted career is fast becoming the only unknown on what's looking more and more like a Hall of Fame resume. Mark McKay, CNN, Jacksonville, Florida.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COSTELLO: I know, Chad, can you believe it, three Super Bowls before you're 28 years old.

MYERS: Yes, coming out of a great college career, too, but who thought? I mean who would have imagined that, you know, I mean, so.

COSTELLO: So maybe...

MYERS: A great defense, too. I mean you can't say anything bad about that defense last night.

COSTELLO: Just a great team all around.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about the ads, OK?

MYERS: OK. Saw a couple of them.

COSTELLO: Because...

MYERS: I really liked the diet or the Pepsi commercial with the truck.

COSTELLO: Really?

MYERS: That was the one that I thought was probably the best.

COSTELLO: Well let's listen to a couple of clips, shall we?

MYERS: Sure.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I tell you caused some excitement here is tremendous.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look at that. I didn't know P.Diddy drove a Diet Pepsi truck.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't scratch it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, this is how I roll.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Chad, you liked this one the best?

MYERS: You know, I mean if you're going to get a Hummer, you might as well get a Diet Pepsi truck.

COSTELLO: I like this one. MYERS: You get about the same gas mileage.

COSTELLO: I like this one a lot. I don't want to give it away in case you haven't seen it, but the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" comes in right after Cindy Crawford. It's not on there, but that was so funny.

MYERS: No, they didn't show it.

COSTELLO: This is another Pepsi commercial. Man, they were cleaning up the -- Budweiser, I apologize. Let's go to the Budweiser commercial. We're done with Pepsi now.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you ready? Go. Are you ready?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't do this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: This is the No. 1 ad as rated by "USA Today" -- Chad.

MYERS: Yes, and I didn't enjoy it.

COSTELLO: Really?

MYERS: No, you know what, though, I think the problem with some of these commercials for the Super Bowl is that they release them on Thursday and Friday. We saw them on "AMERICAN MORNING." So it's like, you know, I've seen that. So maybe they shouldn't be pre- releasing them, even though they get, obviously, airplay on our air.

COSTELLO: True, I never thought of it that way. They're giving away the big surprise and like the impact just isn't as great.

MYERS: The impact wasn't there for me. It kind of reminded me of the movie "Congo" when the pilots were jumping out of the plane and there was nobody else to fly, so they, obviously, everybody jumped out, but, yes, whatever.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about the half time show for just a second.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: Paul McCartney singing three songs, three really, really old songs, and it was a very classy performance and the audience joined in when he say "Hey, Jude." And I don't know.

MYERS: You watched it, right?

COSTELLO: Yes.

MYERS: Did it seem shorter than normal?

COSTELLO: It seemed to be shorter than normal and much tamer. We're going to read some of your e-mails that hopefully you're e- mailing us right now about the ads and the half time show. DAYBREAK@CNN.com.

Next hour starts right now.

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Aired February 7, 2005 - 05:43   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Pope John Paul II seems determined to show the world he can still lead the Roman Catholic Church. He got out of his hospital bed to bless the faithful in person.

Let's head live to Rome and our Alessio Vinci, because I understand there's another update on the condition of the pope, and that really hasn't come since last Friday. So tell us -- Alessio.

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Carol, we are expecting this update here in Rome in about 10 or 15 minutes time. We're waiting to hear from the Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro Valls. So we do not really know anything new other than the fact that we saw the pope for the first time ever since he was rushed to the hospital here on Tuesday night.

I was here, and I can tell you that the pope, to me at least, he appeared very much the same as he has in the last few years. That is -- you know he did look frail, he was speaking with some degree of difficulty, actually, very, very slowly. His voice did sound also still hoarse, obviously still recuperating from the flu and the respiratory infection that is the reason why he was rushed here in a hurry on Tuesday night.

He delivered a very, very short blessing, only a few words. I was, frankly, a little bit surprised to see the fact that even for him to read just those few words he actually needed a piece of paper to be able to follow the prayer that a Vatican official was reciting on his behalf. Vatican officials are telling us that this is the protocol, if you want. The pope always reads with a piece of paper in front of him.

The media here, Italian media especially has speculated that the pope actually did not deliver his blessing live, that it was a prerecorded tape, something of course the Vatican is flatly denying. So lots of rumors, if you want, surrounding the true state of the pope's health.

But nevertheless, for the first time in five days, we did see him yesterday. And he did look like pretty much a man who is determined, as I said, to lead the Catholic Church, determined to return to Vatican as soon as possible and resume his normal duties. We do know, however, that for the first time in his 25 years, more than 25 year's papacy, Pope John Paul II will not preside over on Wednesday the ceremonies at the Vatican marking the beginning of Lent.

Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: Alessio, a delicate question for you, why does the pope hang on? Why does he want to stay in his position, that's what I'm asking you?

VINCI: Well, I think that, first of all, the pope says just as Jesus Christ did not come off the cross suffering, he himself cannot resign from his duty as the successor apparent (ph). The pope has said all along that he has no intention to resign. He wants to stay on, that he wants to continue, that he still has something to do. And he also, I think, wants to send a clear message to other old and frail and sick people around the world that there is still room for them as well.

This is a pope that still has a great amount of authority, as I said, has a great amount of authority inside the Catholic Church. He does not run the day-to-day operations, of course that is in the hands of the Roman curia, if you want, which is the government of the church. But at the same time, he still believes that he still has a lot to say and a lot to do in terms of the doctrine, in terms of the main issues that the Catholic Church faces today, from abortion rights to many other issues. That the pope really still thinks that he has something to say, and therefore, he does not want to give up.

Also because, by the way, popes really can't resign. I mean there are simple (ph) reasons in the Carnal Law (ph), but the last time the pope resigned was 500 years ago. So he doesn't want to be the first one in such a long time -- Carol.

COSTELLO: All right, Alessio Vinci, reporting live from Rome this morning, thank you.

Your news, money, weather and sports. It's 5:47 Eastern. Here's what's all new this morning.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is meeting with the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. She's expected to offer a U.S. team to monitor this period of calm between the Israelis and Palestinians. She's also bringing a $350 million pledge from the United States to the Palestinians.

Standoff now under way in Bern, Switzerland, police say unidentified attackers, perhaps just one man, burst into the Spanish Consulate, and he may be holding hostages.

In money news, pump prices up again. A national survey finds the average price for self-serve regular gas rose more than six cents over the past two weeks.

And in culture, hundreds of Jamaicans march for peace on the 60th anniversary of reggae legend Bob Marley's birth. Organizers hoped the march would stop gun violence for the day.

And in sports, a look at one of the Big Ten's in college basketball. Top ranked Illinois remains unbeaten with a decisive victory over Indiana. They won 60 to 47. Think we should give the Super Bowl score out?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Some folks were not awake, Carol, didn't stay up. I bet we should.

COSTELLO: Well, surprise, surprise, the New England Patriots won.

MYERS: 24-21, didn't cover the seven points, as we expected.

(WEATHER REPORT)

Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad.

Those are the latest headlines for you this morning.

We're still going to talk Super Bowl this morning on DAYBREAK. And when we do, we want to know what was your favorite commercial during the game? It's our e-mail "Question of the Morning." DAYBREAK@CNN.com. DAYBREAK@CNN.com. Please e-mail this morning, we want to hear from you.

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: We have some information just in from Bern, Switzerland. We've been telling you about a hostage situation at the Spanish Consulate there. Well, we understand that hostage situation is now over. Three men apparently burst into the consulate and for a short time took the employees hostage in there. We believe there were 12 to 15 employees inside.

Well according to authorities, the hostage situation is now over. No one is being held hostage at this time. No one was hurt. And we do not know at this time who the hostage takers were, but we do know they're in custody. We will give you more information as we get it here into CNN.

We're going to take another break now. Is that true we're going to take another break? When we come back, we'll talk Super Bowl.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: OK, Chad, we're going to talk Super Bowl now, are you ready?

MYERS: I am, I'm ready.

COSTELLO: OK, you're going to get really tired of hearing the D word, you know, dynasty.

MYERS: All right. COSTELLO: Yes, until all the post Super Bowl hype is over. In case you missed it, and we know some of you did, the Patriots won the Super Bowl beating the Eagles 24-21.

CNN's Mark McKay takes it from there.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MARK MCKAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dynasty, it's not a word used lightly in professional sports. Yet, with the New England Patriots claiming their third Super Bowl victory in four years, it's a word being used to describe this team, even if the Patriots themselves refuse to use it.

ROMAN PHIFER, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: If that's the word you use, fine, but like I said, you know we're a humble group of guys. We're guys that care about each other and we're just out to win.

TOM BRADY, PATRIOTS QUARTERBACK: We've never really self- proclaimed ourselves anything, that's just not our style. So we just love playing ball.

DEION BRANCH, SUPER BOWL XXXIX MVP: They may say we still have to win another championship to be a dynasty, so I don't know. What do you think?

MCKAY: Call it what you'd like, there is every reason to believe that the Patriots can build on their current string of success, thanks to a solid foundation. A 27-year-old quarterback in Tom Brady who has never lost a playoff game, nor his humility.

BRADY: I've played four years and we've done some great things in those four years, and a lot of it is -- and the reason why we've done it is because we've got just a great group of guys. And I'm proud to be the quarterback and I love leading the group and I love taking us onto the field.

MATT LIGHT, PATRIOTS TACKLE: But I wouldn't trade him for anybody out there in the league. I mean this guy is a great guy to be around. He's a great guy to play with. But I think he'd be the first person to tell you that you know it's not just him, it's this entire team.

TROY BROWN, PATRIOTS RECEIVER: He's a pretty damn good quarterback, you know, he's pretty good. You know I wouldn't ask for anybody else in a situation like this but Tom Brady. You know he's brought me through these things and you know. And if anybody else wants to come win one, play with Tom Brady.

MCKAY (on camera): To measure Tom Brady's achievement in winning his third title, consider this, on the day before Super Bowl XXXIX, two quarterbacks, Dan Marino and Steve Young were declared all-time greats with their election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They retired with only one Super Bowl title between them. How many more Brady has at the end of his enchanted career is fast becoming the only unknown on what's looking more and more like a Hall of Fame resume. Mark McKay, CNN, Jacksonville, Florida.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COSTELLO: I know, Chad, can you believe it, three Super Bowls before you're 28 years old.

MYERS: Yes, coming out of a great college career, too, but who thought? I mean who would have imagined that, you know, I mean, so.

COSTELLO: So maybe...

MYERS: A great defense, too. I mean you can't say anything bad about that defense last night.

COSTELLO: Just a great team all around.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about the ads, OK?

MYERS: OK. Saw a couple of them.

COSTELLO: Because...

MYERS: I really liked the diet or the Pepsi commercial with the truck.

COSTELLO: Really?

MYERS: That was the one that I thought was probably the best.

COSTELLO: Well let's listen to a couple of clips, shall we?

MYERS: Sure.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I tell you caused some excitement here is tremendous.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look at that. I didn't know P.Diddy drove a Diet Pepsi truck.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't scratch it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, this is how I roll.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Chad, you liked this one the best?

MYERS: You know, I mean if you're going to get a Hummer, you might as well get a Diet Pepsi truck.

COSTELLO: I like this one. MYERS: You get about the same gas mileage.

COSTELLO: I like this one a lot. I don't want to give it away in case you haven't seen it, but the "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" comes in right after Cindy Crawford. It's not on there, but that was so funny.

MYERS: No, they didn't show it.

COSTELLO: This is another Pepsi commercial. Man, they were cleaning up the -- Budweiser, I apologize. Let's go to the Budweiser commercial. We're done with Pepsi now.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you ready? Go. Are you ready?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't do this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: This is the No. 1 ad as rated by "USA Today" -- Chad.

MYERS: Yes, and I didn't enjoy it.

COSTELLO: Really?

MYERS: No, you know what, though, I think the problem with some of these commercials for the Super Bowl is that they release them on Thursday and Friday. We saw them on "AMERICAN MORNING." So it's like, you know, I've seen that. So maybe they shouldn't be pre- releasing them, even though they get, obviously, airplay on our air.

COSTELLO: True, I never thought of it that way. They're giving away the big surprise and like the impact just isn't as great.

MYERS: The impact wasn't there for me. It kind of reminded me of the movie "Congo" when the pilots were jumping out of the plane and there was nobody else to fly, so they, obviously, everybody jumped out, but, yes, whatever.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about the half time show for just a second.

MYERS: Yes.

COSTELLO: Paul McCartney singing three songs, three really, really old songs, and it was a very classy performance and the audience joined in when he say "Hey, Jude." And I don't know.

MYERS: You watched it, right?

COSTELLO: Yes.

MYERS: Did it seem shorter than normal?

COSTELLO: It seemed to be shorter than normal and much tamer. We're going to read some of your e-mails that hopefully you're e- mailing us right now about the ads and the half time show. DAYBREAK@CNN.com.

Next hour starts right now.

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com