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Priest Sex Abuse; 'New You Revolution'

Aired February 08, 2005 - 09:31   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. Just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING.
Mr. Hemmer's got the day off. He's back tomorrow. But Rob Marciano has been filling in for him for the past couple of days. Big thanks to you.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN ANCHOR: It has been my pleasure.

O'BRIEN: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Coming up the trial of defrocked priest Paul Shanley. One man's story convicted him. But there are many others with similar claims. This morning we talk to a woman who says Shanley started assaulting her when she was just 13 years old. We have her story just ahead.

MARCIANO: Also a mystery that has tantalized Washington for decades. Who was the secret informant that gave Woodward and Bernstein their big scoop on Watergate? In a few minutes, a man who guarantees he can identify "Deep Throat." That name is coming up.

O'BRIEN: Lot of people have sign lined up to say that they guarantee that they can identify Deep Throat. Well, we'll see.

Let's check the headline now. Heidi Collins, good morning.

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning again, guys. And good morning to you once again, everybody.

Now in the news this morning, a new opportunity for peace in the Middle East. Just over an hour ago, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas hailed a cease-fire agreement. The agreement coming during an historic summit in Sharm Al-Sheikh Egypt. It is the first high-level meeting between Israeli and Palestinian leaders in more than four years.

Doctors are now saying that Pope John Paul II is improving. But a Vatican official is leaving open the possibility the pope may step down one day. When asked if the 84-year-old pontiff would consider resigning, the official replied, quote, "Let's leave that hypothesis up to the pope's conscience." There are no indications, though, that the pope is planning to step down.

And President Bush is taking his budget plan on the road. The president's set to depart in the next half our or so for Detroit, Michigan. He's touting a $2.5 trillion budget, calling it a lean tax and spending blueprint.

CNN will have live coverage of the president's speech in Detroit, beginning at noon Eastern.

And the New England Patriots' victory parade set to get under way in Boston. Actually, it looks like people are lining up right now. Live pictures for you coming out of Boston. The parade should actually start in about two hours. We're looking at these pictures as people are still very excited. How long ago was it? Just on Sunday, right? Some 2,000 cheering fans welcomed home their Super Bowl champs yesterday but today's festivities are similar to those for world series champions Boston Red Sox last fall.

O'BRIEN: One of the main streets there in Boston on Tremont (ph) Street.

COLLINS: I bet some of those folks have been there since Sunday. They probably have.

MARCIANO: A very proud and Patriot fan in our ear telling us that information about Boston.

COLLINS: Yes, funny how we get those live shots when Ted's in the booth. Very suspicious. All right, Heidi, thank.

MARCIANO: Former Priest Paul Shanley is guilty of raping and molesting a child. The jury in Cambridge, Massachusetts convicted him yesterday, based largely on the testimony of a single accuser. Many others, though, have come forward, but not all of them male.

Dale Walsh says she was 13 when Shanley first raped her. She joins us from Boston this morning. Ms. Shanley -- Ms. Walsh rather, excuse me, thank you very much for joining us. We certainly appreciate it.

Your case not going to be heard because of the statute of limitations. Give us a sense what happened back when you were 13.

DALE WALSH, ACCUSES SHANLEY OF RAPE: When I was 13, I was involved with the charismatic Catholic Church, and we would do retreats for teenagers in somewhere in eastern Massachusetts, different places. And Paul Shanley would come to these retreats. He wasn't involved with them. But he would come and speak to the kids who would like him to speak to them.

And I went in to see him one day. And he was fine. But then the second time I went to see him was when I was severely molested.

O'BRIEN: As I mentioned, because of the statute of limitations, your case cannot be heard. How difficult was it for you to watch the trial with another victim going forward?

WALSH: First of all, I think the other victim was extremely courageous. I watched the trial just a little bit at a time, because it brought back all kinds of memories for me, so I thing that what this young man was able to do is -- it's awe inspiring.

O'BRIEN: Even though your case never came up, even though the priest has never been convicted of raping you, as you claim, do you feel vindicated in some way by what happened with this other case?

WALSH: I feel relieved. I also feel that after all these years Paul Shanley is going to have to take responsibility for what he did so many years ago. He raped so many children, in the hundreds. I know for a fact it's in the hundreds, and it may be even higher than that.

O'BRIEN: His niece, though, said, "We're no closer to finding out the truth about this scandal or finding out what happened." That's a quote from her. What do you make of her statement?

WALSH: Well, she's very close to her uncle, and she hasn't seen any of this kind of behavior. But there are many, many, many of us who have seen it and who have experienced it. And we know the truth.

O'BRIEN: A lot of the testimony, as you well know, in this case, relied on the repressed and recovered memories, and some were very concerned that it might make for a very weak case. The jury had to buy it or not buy it. What was your sense of that kind of testimony?

WALSH: Well, it is difficult, but I also had repressed memories. I did not remember what went on with Paul Shanley and myself until they brought him back from California. And I saw pictures of him as a young man, then it just all hit me. So I believe Paul's testimony. I also have many, many friends that that happened to. And I've also worked with people who that's happened to, and I have my own cases that it does happen. I know it happens.

O'BRIEN: You're obviously still struggling with this very much. What do you do next? I mean, you will always be an alleged victim. You will never be defined in the court as an actual victim of Paul Shanley. So what do you do?

WALSH: Right. Well, I go on with my own healing. And I think that Paul Shanley is going to have to take responsibility for all of the things that he has done, because I believe that what you give out you get back again. And this may not happen in this lifetime, but it will happen.

O'BRIEN: Dale Walsh is a Shanley accuser. Ms. Walsh, thank you very much for being with us this morning. Appreciate you talking with us.

WALSH: You're welcome.

(WEATHER REPORT)

` MARCIANO: Well, just who wrote -- or just who is Deep Throat, the informant who helped "Washington Post" reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein break the Watergate scandal? More than 30 years later, the identity remains a mystery, but that could soon change.

Kelly Wallace is here with more. Kelly, you got a name for us? You going to blurt it out?

KELLY WALLACE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, you know, well, we do have someone who thinks he knows the name. You know, the latest clue comes from former Nixon aide John Dean, who says he has a source who tells him that Bob Woodward has informed his executive editor at "The Washington Post" that Deep Throat is, in fact, ill.

Now, if this is true, could this put 30 years of questions to rest? Well, as we were saying, we have one professor who says for him and his students, well, they say they already know the answer.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

WALLACE (voice-over): The biggest mystery in American politics, who is Deep Throat, that secret source made famous in the 1974 movie "All the President's Men"?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you thought I'd help?

WALLACE: But a mystery no more, according to this Web site. The journalism department at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign touting its four-year investigation, which ended in 2003.

BILL GAINES, JOURNALISM PROFESSOR: We concluded, though, that we know who Deep Throat is and his name is Fred Fielding.

WALLACE: Fielding was chief deputy to John Dean when Dean was counsel to President Nixon.

GAINES: We're not speculating. We have traced the flow of information and Fred Fielding had the information that Deep Throat conveyed. Nobody else qualifies to be Deep Throat. And we are 100 percent sure that he is.

WALLACE: Professor Gaines and his students' investigation aside, there are many other names that have been tossed around over the past 30 years, from General Alexander Haig, Nixon's chief of staff, to Ron Ziegler, Nixon's press secretary, to Mark Phelps, a longtime FBI official who Nixon passed over for the top job.

Even former White House adviser David Gergen and Nixon speechwriter Patrick Buchanan. Hard to believe these two men who frequently appear on television could be the secret source if Deep Throat is, in fact, ill. Woodward and Carl Bernstein say their lips will remain sealed until...

BOB WOODWARD, REPORTER/AUTHOR: This source changes his mind and says, here's my identity or he dies.

WALLACE: So what's a reporter to do with a nugget such as Deep Throat could be ill?

BERNARD KALB, FMR. CBS & NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: You've got to check everywhere you can. You've got to check, what is it, potential widows, You've got to check hospitals, you've got to find out who's coughing furiously. But as I say, I wish good health to whoever Deep Throat is -- was.

(END VIDEOTAPE) WALLACE: And so we did just that. We worked the phones yesterday, calling some of these names that have been tossed around, including Professor Gaines' pick, Fred Fielding. He, we should point out, was a member of the September 11 Commission. We talked to his office. His assistant said he's in the office. They didn't get back to us about an interview request. Bottom line, Rob, we'll never know 100 percent for sure until Deep Throat comes forward or until he passes.

MARCIANO: You're just a big tease.

WALLACE: I was hoping to uncover the story yesterday, but no luck.

MARCIANO: It's good stuff. Thanks, Kelly.

WALLACE: Sure.

MARCIANO: Soledad, back over to you.

O'BRIEN: TV producer Mark Burnett worked his magic with "Survivor," then he added more luster to Donald Trump's resume with "The Apprentice." So what can he do for Martha Stewart? Burnett talks to us tomorrow about his new "Apprentice" spin-off, which features the domestic diva. That's tomorrow on AMERICAN MORNING at 7:00 a.m. Eastern.

And there's a new reason to start calling Elton John rocket man. Andy's going explain when he minds your business coming up next.

Plus it's week four of the "New You Revolution." Grandmother Sandra Garth is working out to lose weight, but exercise has also solved one of her other problems, as well. We'll explain, up next on AMERICAN MORNING.

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O'BRIEN: It is week four of our "New You Revolution." We're helping five people break their bad habits and start new, healthy ones.

MARCIANO: Dr. Sanjay Gupta is at the CNN Center to tell us how things are going with our participants. Now they've reached the halfway point, Sanjay, what's going on?

SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Rob and Soledad.

It's been about a month now, and most Americans, I'll point out, have already given up their resolutions. But our "New You Revolution" bunch is doing well, especially our grandmother, Sandra Garth.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were at 200, and this time we are at 193. So that is awesome!

SANDRA GARTH, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: Seven pounds.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are you are at 33.6, and last time you were at 37.4.

GUPTA (voice over): Sandra has been eating less.

GARTH: I can think back now to what I used to eat, and I was eating a ton of food.

GUPTA: And better. Instead of cheese eggs, French toast and bacon, her breakfast now looks like this: egg whites, whole wheat toast with one carefully measured tablespoon of peanut butter, and a banana. But is she hungry?

GARTH: Not at all.

GUPTA: Two weeks into the "New You Revolution," Sandra told us that it wasn't just her bad habits that contributed to her initial weight gain. She also suffers from depression.

GARTH: I was diagnosed with it in 2002.

GUPTA: She went to see a psychiatrist.

GARTH: And immediately, he started writing out the prescriptions. And he told me one of the side effects is that you're going to gain weight.

GUPTA: Dissatisfied with the drugs, she stopped taking them. But since she's been exercising more, she has been feeling better. Studies have shown that for some people, moderately intense workouts can be as effective as antidepressants. And Sandra has been exercising a lot.

Sandra's success has even led to a wardrobe malfunction, of sorts.

GARTH: This is cool. And that's just been since two weeks. The swimming suit is a little big here, so another excuse to shop. I love it!

(END VIDEOTAPE)

O'BRIEN: That's the kind of wardrobe malfunction you want, right? You lose a couple of pounds?

GUPTA: After the Super Bowl.

O'BRIEN: Exactly, exactly. Hey, Sanjay, she made a big point about being depressed. It seemed like it was pretty hard for her to talk about. Why was that important to her?

GUPTA: Well, she feels not enough people do talk about depression, and the depression can lead to problems with weight either because of the disease itself or the medications. An important point. It was hard for her to talk about it, but she definitely wants to get the message out there, Soledad.

MARCIANO: Well, she's not the only one, Sanjay, in this program. How are the other participants doing?

GUPTA: Well, they're making a lot of progress, Rob, with the help of some experts. Here's our weekly checkup.

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GUPTA (voice over): Harald is definitely getting more exercise and eating healthier. But as far as sleep, he's not there yet. Remarkably, less sleep actually causes weight gain. So to figure it out, his doctor recommended a sleep test.

HARALD FRICKER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: So, according to Dr. Warner, I failed that miserably.

GUPTA: He's been diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea, which can contribute to heart disease. Weight loss is the simplest way to reduce apnea. So, Harald has yet another incentive to keep the weight coming off. In the meantime, he's going to wear this mask to help him breathe better and sleep longer.

SARA COWLAN, NUTRITIONIST: Don't skip meals.

GUPTA: Nutritionist Sara Cowlan barged in on Thekla's busy workday to remind her why she has to break that bad habit.

COWLAN: No matter what your intentions are as far as, you know, not wanting to each too much, your body needs the food. And before you might know that you're pregnant, it's important to have enough folic acid in your diet.

GUPTA: And just to be sure, taking a daily prenatal vitamin every day is essential to getting all of the nutrients she needs. But Thekla can check this item off of her pre-pregnancy list.

THEKLA FISCHER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: I made an appointment with my dentist and got a checkup, which I'm very proud of, because I hadn't done it in a long time. And that was one of the things that they told me was very important for prenatal.

LEIGH ANN RAYNOR, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: I haven't had any fast food since the program began.

GUPTA: That's because Leigh Ann is learning about healthy food with the help of her registered dietitian.

RAYNOR: Okie-doke.

GUPTA: Leigh Ann may like to kid around a lot.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, put it back. Put it back.

GUPTA: But she really is serious about eating healthier meals.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can have bread. It's all about portion control.

GUPTA: Her cooking skills may be another story.

RAYNOR: When the smoke alarm goes off, it's probably done.

GUPTA: We'll tell you how that's going next week.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

And next week, we'll also focus on Jonathan Karp.

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JONATHAN KARP, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: You've got to try anything you know. You've got to think outside the box sometimes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUPTA: He is seeking some alternative therapies, if you will, to help him break his habit once and for all.

All of our participants seem to be forming some new healthy habits. And you too can benefit from some of what they've learned with these take-home tips.

Whole wheat bread is healthier and will fill you up longer than white bread. But to be sure you're getting real whole wheat bread, check the ingredients. Make sure the first ingredient listed is whole wheat flour, not enriched wheat flour. An important point.

Also, eating healthier means eating more fruits and veggies. But that can put a dent in your wallet. You can save money if you buy fruit in season or buy frozen or canned fruit and vegetables. They're almost as nutritious as long as they don't contain the added sugar or salt.

And, of course, you can follow all of our participants and e-mail them as well, e-mail them directly by logging on to CNN.com/am. Good stuff. I think they're doing pretty well.

Back to you, Soledad.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

O'BRIEN: All right, Sanjay. Yes, they are doing well. Thanks.

Pretty soon you'll get a chance to fly with Elton John, kind of, sort of. Andy explains. He's "Minding Your Business," just ahead on AMERICAN MORNING.

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O'BRIEN: Welcome back, everybody. Believe it or not, soon Elton John's going to truly become the rocket man. Here with that and a check of the market, Andy Serwer's "Minding Your Business."

That sounds strange, but let's start with the market first.

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Let's do that, go down to Wall Street, see how the Big Board is doing. We were down double digits, but I think we're just down single digits right now. Down only 4. Nasdaq is up a little bit. Taser is weighing in on the market this morning; 77 percent increase in profits, still not quite enough for wall street. The stock is down about 14 percent.

Elton John is everywhere, dissing Madonna on "LARRY KING," and now he's on the side of some airplanes. Get a load of Elton John on the side of AirTran Jets. This is a promotion. They've got XM Radio, and they've got E.J.'s likeness. How about that, E.J.'s likeness on the side of AirTran, which is based in Atlanta. Elton John, of course, is a part-time Atlantan. No word on how much the deal is, although I understand that Elton gets a six-foot model AirTran jet with his likeness and $50,000 to one of his charities.

O'BRIEN: And that's it, for Elton John?

SERWER: Well, they don't know about the money part. But air traffic controllers are calling the planes Elton One. I think it's kind of cute.

MARCIANO: I like it.

SERWER: Elton and the jets.

O'BRIEN: Andy, thank you very much.

Coming up on CNN this morning, one of the most powerful weapons for a terrorist. Not a bomb or a gun, but a piece of paper. CNN's Jeanne Meserve goes inside a secret lab that tracks terrorist's paper trail. That's in the next hour with Rick Sanchez and Betty Nguyen on CNN LIVE TODAY.

AMERICAN MORNING is back in just a moment.

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Aired February 8, 2005 - 09:31   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. Just about half past the hour on this AMERICAN MORNING.
Mr. Hemmer's got the day off. He's back tomorrow. But Rob Marciano has been filling in for him for the past couple of days. Big thanks to you.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN ANCHOR: It has been my pleasure.

O'BRIEN: Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Coming up the trial of defrocked priest Paul Shanley. One man's story convicted him. But there are many others with similar claims. This morning we talk to a woman who says Shanley started assaulting her when she was just 13 years old. We have her story just ahead.

MARCIANO: Also a mystery that has tantalized Washington for decades. Who was the secret informant that gave Woodward and Bernstein their big scoop on Watergate? In a few minutes, a man who guarantees he can identify "Deep Throat." That name is coming up.

O'BRIEN: Lot of people have sign lined up to say that they guarantee that they can identify Deep Throat. Well, we'll see.

Let's check the headline now. Heidi Collins, good morning.

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning again, guys. And good morning to you once again, everybody.

Now in the news this morning, a new opportunity for peace in the Middle East. Just over an hour ago, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas hailed a cease-fire agreement. The agreement coming during an historic summit in Sharm Al-Sheikh Egypt. It is the first high-level meeting between Israeli and Palestinian leaders in more than four years.

Doctors are now saying that Pope John Paul II is improving. But a Vatican official is leaving open the possibility the pope may step down one day. When asked if the 84-year-old pontiff would consider resigning, the official replied, quote, "Let's leave that hypothesis up to the pope's conscience." There are no indications, though, that the pope is planning to step down.

And President Bush is taking his budget plan on the road. The president's set to depart in the next half our or so for Detroit, Michigan. He's touting a $2.5 trillion budget, calling it a lean tax and spending blueprint.

CNN will have live coverage of the president's speech in Detroit, beginning at noon Eastern.

And the New England Patriots' victory parade set to get under way in Boston. Actually, it looks like people are lining up right now. Live pictures for you coming out of Boston. The parade should actually start in about two hours. We're looking at these pictures as people are still very excited. How long ago was it? Just on Sunday, right? Some 2,000 cheering fans welcomed home their Super Bowl champs yesterday but today's festivities are similar to those for world series champions Boston Red Sox last fall.

O'BRIEN: One of the main streets there in Boston on Tremont (ph) Street.

COLLINS: I bet some of those folks have been there since Sunday. They probably have.

MARCIANO: A very proud and Patriot fan in our ear telling us that information about Boston.

COLLINS: Yes, funny how we get those live shots when Ted's in the booth. Very suspicious. All right, Heidi, thank.

MARCIANO: Former Priest Paul Shanley is guilty of raping and molesting a child. The jury in Cambridge, Massachusetts convicted him yesterday, based largely on the testimony of a single accuser. Many others, though, have come forward, but not all of them male.

Dale Walsh says she was 13 when Shanley first raped her. She joins us from Boston this morning. Ms. Shanley -- Ms. Walsh rather, excuse me, thank you very much for joining us. We certainly appreciate it.

Your case not going to be heard because of the statute of limitations. Give us a sense what happened back when you were 13.

DALE WALSH, ACCUSES SHANLEY OF RAPE: When I was 13, I was involved with the charismatic Catholic Church, and we would do retreats for teenagers in somewhere in eastern Massachusetts, different places. And Paul Shanley would come to these retreats. He wasn't involved with them. But he would come and speak to the kids who would like him to speak to them.

And I went in to see him one day. And he was fine. But then the second time I went to see him was when I was severely molested.

O'BRIEN: As I mentioned, because of the statute of limitations, your case cannot be heard. How difficult was it for you to watch the trial with another victim going forward?

WALSH: First of all, I think the other victim was extremely courageous. I watched the trial just a little bit at a time, because it brought back all kinds of memories for me, so I thing that what this young man was able to do is -- it's awe inspiring.

O'BRIEN: Even though your case never came up, even though the priest has never been convicted of raping you, as you claim, do you feel vindicated in some way by what happened with this other case?

WALSH: I feel relieved. I also feel that after all these years Paul Shanley is going to have to take responsibility for what he did so many years ago. He raped so many children, in the hundreds. I know for a fact it's in the hundreds, and it may be even higher than that.

O'BRIEN: His niece, though, said, "We're no closer to finding out the truth about this scandal or finding out what happened." That's a quote from her. What do you make of her statement?

WALSH: Well, she's very close to her uncle, and she hasn't seen any of this kind of behavior. But there are many, many, many of us who have seen it and who have experienced it. And we know the truth.

O'BRIEN: A lot of the testimony, as you well know, in this case, relied on the repressed and recovered memories, and some were very concerned that it might make for a very weak case. The jury had to buy it or not buy it. What was your sense of that kind of testimony?

WALSH: Well, it is difficult, but I also had repressed memories. I did not remember what went on with Paul Shanley and myself until they brought him back from California. And I saw pictures of him as a young man, then it just all hit me. So I believe Paul's testimony. I also have many, many friends that that happened to. And I've also worked with people who that's happened to, and I have my own cases that it does happen. I know it happens.

O'BRIEN: You're obviously still struggling with this very much. What do you do next? I mean, you will always be an alleged victim. You will never be defined in the court as an actual victim of Paul Shanley. So what do you do?

WALSH: Right. Well, I go on with my own healing. And I think that Paul Shanley is going to have to take responsibility for all of the things that he has done, because I believe that what you give out you get back again. And this may not happen in this lifetime, but it will happen.

O'BRIEN: Dale Walsh is a Shanley accuser. Ms. Walsh, thank you very much for being with us this morning. Appreciate you talking with us.

WALSH: You're welcome.

(WEATHER REPORT)

` MARCIANO: Well, just who wrote -- or just who is Deep Throat, the informant who helped "Washington Post" reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein break the Watergate scandal? More than 30 years later, the identity remains a mystery, but that could soon change.

Kelly Wallace is here with more. Kelly, you got a name for us? You going to blurt it out?

KELLY WALLACE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, you know, well, we do have someone who thinks he knows the name. You know, the latest clue comes from former Nixon aide John Dean, who says he has a source who tells him that Bob Woodward has informed his executive editor at "The Washington Post" that Deep Throat is, in fact, ill.

Now, if this is true, could this put 30 years of questions to rest? Well, as we were saying, we have one professor who says for him and his students, well, they say they already know the answer.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

WALLACE (voice-over): The biggest mystery in American politics, who is Deep Throat, that secret source made famous in the 1974 movie "All the President's Men"?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you thought I'd help?

WALLACE: But a mystery no more, according to this Web site. The journalism department at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign touting its four-year investigation, which ended in 2003.

BILL GAINES, JOURNALISM PROFESSOR: We concluded, though, that we know who Deep Throat is and his name is Fred Fielding.

WALLACE: Fielding was chief deputy to John Dean when Dean was counsel to President Nixon.

GAINES: We're not speculating. We have traced the flow of information and Fred Fielding had the information that Deep Throat conveyed. Nobody else qualifies to be Deep Throat. And we are 100 percent sure that he is.

WALLACE: Professor Gaines and his students' investigation aside, there are many other names that have been tossed around over the past 30 years, from General Alexander Haig, Nixon's chief of staff, to Ron Ziegler, Nixon's press secretary, to Mark Phelps, a longtime FBI official who Nixon passed over for the top job.

Even former White House adviser David Gergen and Nixon speechwriter Patrick Buchanan. Hard to believe these two men who frequently appear on television could be the secret source if Deep Throat is, in fact, ill. Woodward and Carl Bernstein say their lips will remain sealed until...

BOB WOODWARD, REPORTER/AUTHOR: This source changes his mind and says, here's my identity or he dies.

WALLACE: So what's a reporter to do with a nugget such as Deep Throat could be ill?

BERNARD KALB, FMR. CBS & NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: You've got to check everywhere you can. You've got to check, what is it, potential widows, You've got to check hospitals, you've got to find out who's coughing furiously. But as I say, I wish good health to whoever Deep Throat is -- was.

(END VIDEOTAPE) WALLACE: And so we did just that. We worked the phones yesterday, calling some of these names that have been tossed around, including Professor Gaines' pick, Fred Fielding. He, we should point out, was a member of the September 11 Commission. We talked to his office. His assistant said he's in the office. They didn't get back to us about an interview request. Bottom line, Rob, we'll never know 100 percent for sure until Deep Throat comes forward or until he passes.

MARCIANO: You're just a big tease.

WALLACE: I was hoping to uncover the story yesterday, but no luck.

MARCIANO: It's good stuff. Thanks, Kelly.

WALLACE: Sure.

MARCIANO: Soledad, back over to you.

O'BRIEN: TV producer Mark Burnett worked his magic with "Survivor," then he added more luster to Donald Trump's resume with "The Apprentice." So what can he do for Martha Stewart? Burnett talks to us tomorrow about his new "Apprentice" spin-off, which features the domestic diva. That's tomorrow on AMERICAN MORNING at 7:00 a.m. Eastern.

And there's a new reason to start calling Elton John rocket man. Andy's going explain when he minds your business coming up next.

Plus it's week four of the "New You Revolution." Grandmother Sandra Garth is working out to lose weight, but exercise has also solved one of her other problems, as well. We'll explain, up next on AMERICAN MORNING.

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O'BRIEN: It is week four of our "New You Revolution." We're helping five people break their bad habits and start new, healthy ones.

MARCIANO: Dr. Sanjay Gupta is at the CNN Center to tell us how things are going with our participants. Now they've reached the halfway point, Sanjay, what's going on?

SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Rob and Soledad.

It's been about a month now, and most Americans, I'll point out, have already given up their resolutions. But our "New You Revolution" bunch is doing well, especially our grandmother, Sandra Garth.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were at 200, and this time we are at 193. So that is awesome!

SANDRA GARTH, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: Seven pounds.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are you are at 33.6, and last time you were at 37.4.

GUPTA (voice over): Sandra has been eating less.

GARTH: I can think back now to what I used to eat, and I was eating a ton of food.

GUPTA: And better. Instead of cheese eggs, French toast and bacon, her breakfast now looks like this: egg whites, whole wheat toast with one carefully measured tablespoon of peanut butter, and a banana. But is she hungry?

GARTH: Not at all.

GUPTA: Two weeks into the "New You Revolution," Sandra told us that it wasn't just her bad habits that contributed to her initial weight gain. She also suffers from depression.

GARTH: I was diagnosed with it in 2002.

GUPTA: She went to see a psychiatrist.

GARTH: And immediately, he started writing out the prescriptions. And he told me one of the side effects is that you're going to gain weight.

GUPTA: Dissatisfied with the drugs, she stopped taking them. But since she's been exercising more, she has been feeling better. Studies have shown that for some people, moderately intense workouts can be as effective as antidepressants. And Sandra has been exercising a lot.

Sandra's success has even led to a wardrobe malfunction, of sorts.

GARTH: This is cool. And that's just been since two weeks. The swimming suit is a little big here, so another excuse to shop. I love it!

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O'BRIEN: That's the kind of wardrobe malfunction you want, right? You lose a couple of pounds?

GUPTA: After the Super Bowl.

O'BRIEN: Exactly, exactly. Hey, Sanjay, she made a big point about being depressed. It seemed like it was pretty hard for her to talk about. Why was that important to her?

GUPTA: Well, she feels not enough people do talk about depression, and the depression can lead to problems with weight either because of the disease itself or the medications. An important point. It was hard for her to talk about it, but she definitely wants to get the message out there, Soledad.

MARCIANO: Well, she's not the only one, Sanjay, in this program. How are the other participants doing?

GUPTA: Well, they're making a lot of progress, Rob, with the help of some experts. Here's our weekly checkup.

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GUPTA (voice over): Harald is definitely getting more exercise and eating healthier. But as far as sleep, he's not there yet. Remarkably, less sleep actually causes weight gain. So to figure it out, his doctor recommended a sleep test.

HARALD FRICKER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: So, according to Dr. Warner, I failed that miserably.

GUPTA: He's been diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea, which can contribute to heart disease. Weight loss is the simplest way to reduce apnea. So, Harald has yet another incentive to keep the weight coming off. In the meantime, he's going to wear this mask to help him breathe better and sleep longer.

SARA COWLAN, NUTRITIONIST: Don't skip meals.

GUPTA: Nutritionist Sara Cowlan barged in on Thekla's busy workday to remind her why she has to break that bad habit.

COWLAN: No matter what your intentions are as far as, you know, not wanting to each too much, your body needs the food. And before you might know that you're pregnant, it's important to have enough folic acid in your diet.

GUPTA: And just to be sure, taking a daily prenatal vitamin every day is essential to getting all of the nutrients she needs. But Thekla can check this item off of her pre-pregnancy list.

THEKLA FISCHER, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: I made an appointment with my dentist and got a checkup, which I'm very proud of, because I hadn't done it in a long time. And that was one of the things that they told me was very important for prenatal.

LEIGH ANN RAYNOR, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: I haven't had any fast food since the program began.

GUPTA: That's because Leigh Ann is learning about healthy food with the help of her registered dietitian.

RAYNOR: Okie-doke.

GUPTA: Leigh Ann may like to kid around a lot.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, put it back. Put it back.

GUPTA: But she really is serious about eating healthier meals.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can have bread. It's all about portion control.

GUPTA: Her cooking skills may be another story.

RAYNOR: When the smoke alarm goes off, it's probably done.

GUPTA: We'll tell you how that's going next week.

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And next week, we'll also focus on Jonathan Karp.

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JONATHAN KARP, "NEW YOU" PARTICIPANT: You've got to try anything you know. You've got to think outside the box sometimes.

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GUPTA: He is seeking some alternative therapies, if you will, to help him break his habit once and for all.

All of our participants seem to be forming some new healthy habits. And you too can benefit from some of what they've learned with these take-home tips.

Whole wheat bread is healthier and will fill you up longer than white bread. But to be sure you're getting real whole wheat bread, check the ingredients. Make sure the first ingredient listed is whole wheat flour, not enriched wheat flour. An important point.

Also, eating healthier means eating more fruits and veggies. But that can put a dent in your wallet. You can save money if you buy fruit in season or buy frozen or canned fruit and vegetables. They're almost as nutritious as long as they don't contain the added sugar or salt.

And, of course, you can follow all of our participants and e-mail them as well, e-mail them directly by logging on to CNN.com/am. Good stuff. I think they're doing pretty well.

Back to you, Soledad.

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O'BRIEN: All right, Sanjay. Yes, they are doing well. Thanks.

Pretty soon you'll get a chance to fly with Elton John, kind of, sort of. Andy explains. He's "Minding Your Business," just ahead on AMERICAN MORNING.

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O'BRIEN: Welcome back, everybody. Believe it or not, soon Elton John's going to truly become the rocket man. Here with that and a check of the market, Andy Serwer's "Minding Your Business."

That sounds strange, but let's start with the market first.

ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Let's do that, go down to Wall Street, see how the Big Board is doing. We were down double digits, but I think we're just down single digits right now. Down only 4. Nasdaq is up a little bit. Taser is weighing in on the market this morning; 77 percent increase in profits, still not quite enough for wall street. The stock is down about 14 percent.

Elton John is everywhere, dissing Madonna on "LARRY KING," and now he's on the side of some airplanes. Get a load of Elton John on the side of AirTran Jets. This is a promotion. They've got XM Radio, and they've got E.J.'s likeness. How about that, E.J.'s likeness on the side of AirTran, which is based in Atlanta. Elton John, of course, is a part-time Atlantan. No word on how much the deal is, although I understand that Elton gets a six-foot model AirTran jet with his likeness and $50,000 to one of his charities.

O'BRIEN: And that's it, for Elton John?

SERWER: Well, they don't know about the money part. But air traffic controllers are calling the planes Elton One. I think it's kind of cute.

MARCIANO: I like it.

SERWER: Elton and the jets.

O'BRIEN: Andy, thank you very much.

Coming up on CNN this morning, one of the most powerful weapons for a terrorist. Not a bomb or a gun, but a piece of paper. CNN's Jeanne Meserve goes inside a secret lab that tracks terrorist's paper trail. That's in the next hour with Rick Sanchez and Betty Nguyen on CNN LIVE TODAY.

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