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Frustration of Iraqi Truckers Running on Empty; Secret Spouse

Aired February 09, 2005 - 10:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: We're just about at the midpoint here at CNN, where, boy, things are starting to get hectic this morning. I'm Rick Sanchez.
BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Betty Nguyen.

We've got a lot to tell you about, so let's get right to it. Now in the news, We are following a developing story out of central Florida. Three Lake County deputies have been shot, and a search is under way -- this is video of that search -- for the suspect who fled on an off-road motorcycle. The suspect's wife says he has an arsenal of weapons and the property in the Ocala National Forest could be booby-trapped. The circumstances of the shooting are not clear as of just yet. We're be following it.

This hour on Capitol Hill, Congress continues its focus on proposed changes to Social Security. Right now the House Budget Committee is holding a hearing on President Bush's call to privatize. Mr. Bush has launched a campaign-style blitz to sell the overhaul, but Democrats vow to fight it to the end.

And an Americans Airline captain is now the latest pilot to report a laser beam shining into the cockpit. It came as the jetliner was landing without incident at the Dallas Ft. Worth International Airport. The FAA is investigating this report and several others like it from around the country.

DNA tests were finally held today for "Baby 81," the baby found in the ravages of Sri Lanka's tsunami. Nine women initially claimed the baby as their lost child, but only one couple is now pursuing custody in court. The DNA results, which could be several days away, would have to confirm that before custody is granted.

And Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is meeting with his NATO counterparts and is expected to deliver a call for greater support of U.S.-led missions, specifically Rumsfeld wants a trans-Atlantic allies to help shoulder the burden of military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

SANCHEZ: Let's set the scene for you now out of this Orlando story that we've been following for you. It appears that three sheriff's deputies showed up at a house where there was a domestic dispute. They say a man inside suddenly started firing at them. There's a map of the area. It's in Lake County, not far from Disney World, in the Orlando area. As a result, one sheriff's deputy has already been airlifted to a hospital, a school in the area is in lockdown, a perimeter has been set up and they are looking for this gunmen.

Now moments ago we received some sound that we'd like to share with you now. This is from the reporter on a helicopter. His name is Steve Barrett, from television station WFTV. Here it is.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

STEVE BARRETT, WFTV REPORTER: ... is definitely locked down right now. In fact, the worry is that this man is armed and out he is out on a motorcycle in the area. If we can pull out that quarry (ph) a little bit and show the area, a very wooded area, with trails that easily a motorcycle can move in and out all of the area around here. You see the woods all around this Lake Catherine (ph) Heights area.

But at this point, it is believed that the Lake County Sheriff's office helicopter may have spotted this suspect. His wife has told deputies that he has an arsenal of weapons, his piece of property may be booby-trapped, in fact. This all started when deputies arrived to a domestic disturbance, and this man apparently opened fire on deputies. Three deputies shot. One's been transported by air. Two have been transported by ground. In fact, there are still two medical helicopters standing by sitting on the ground right now.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Once again, the original report that we have received is that he had somehow fled on a motorcycle. We're hoping to confirm what you just heard from the reporter that, in fact, police have spotted him.

If we get any new information on this story, obviously we're going to get back to it.

In fact, we're getting some pictures now. In fact, we're getting some pictures now just to show you. You heard in that report moments ago the reporter mention that the property may be booby-trapped. That's the property in question, the area that the police first responded to earlier in the day when they were shot at. Whether it's booby-trapped, how it's booby-trapped, certainly at this point we don't know. Again, that's information coming from the man's wife, she reported that to the police as this ongoing situation continues there in the area of Orlando.

Betty, over to you.

NGUYEN: We want to get to news out of Iraq right now. Election officials there reportedly aren't ready to say who won the January 30th national elections. And according to the Associated Press, officials say 300 ballot boxes are going to have to be recounted. How long will it take? Well, they don't know. Meanwhile, Haifa Street in downtown Baghdad is the scene of a blistering gun battle this morning between Iraqi police and insurgents. Look at this video.

An Iraqi police video says it is not clear if the black smoke seen her was caused by the fighting. Also today a senior Iraqi official was kidnapped from his Baghdad home. Police say he works with the interior ministry. And in Basra, a reporter with the U.S. backed Al-Hurra TV was killed outside his home, along with his 6-year- old son. Officials say gunmen fired On Abdul Hussein Khazaal (ph) when his bodyguards went back inside the house.

Diesel fuel in Iraq costs about 20 cents per gallon, making it some of the cheapest in the world. The trick, though, is finding it.

CNN's Jane Arraf examines the frustration of Iraqi truckers running on empty.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE ARRAF, CNN BAGHDAD BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): It's a weekday morning at a gas station in oil-rich Iraq and the drivers are seething. Ahmed Khadem and his friends say they've been waiting for seven hours now to be let through this gate to fill their tanks.

"This is Bush and Allawi's democracy," Khadem says, referring to the Iraqi prime minister, "no oil, no diesel, no gasoline, no country."

The fuel shortage is one of the biggest problems in Iraq. In some places, a tax on every part of the oil industry have brought fuel distribution to a virtual halt. It's a problem that U.S. forces will be handing over to a newly elected Iraqi government.

(on camera): The U.S. military still plays a large role in most parts of the country. But, increasingly, people here seem to be blaming their problems on Iraqi leaders, rather than American officials and looking to Iraqi leaders to solve them.

"Let Allawi come here. Iyad Allawi, Iyad Allawi, where are you?" shouts Salah Hasanobas (ph). He says he's been waiting since 4:00 a.m., trying to make enough money to feed his seven children. "This never happened in Saddam's time," he adds.

At about five cents a liter, this is some of the cheapest diesel in the world, but there isn't enough of it. Moufed Fleiyeh brings foodstuffs from the port of Baquba in Jordan. He says he's allowed only 300 liters of diesel at a time.

MOUFED FLEIYEH, IRAQI CITIZEN (through translator): I can't even get to the border on that. I spend 10 or fifteen days to get enough gas for the trip.

ARRAF: Even before the results are announced, these men have high expectations that a new Iraqi government will be able to solve problems the Americans didn't.

Jane Arraf, CNN, near Maqtoviah (ph), Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Let's do this for you now, take a look at some of the stories that are making news from coast to coast. NGUYEN: The U.S. Marine Corps is revoking the Purple Heart it awarded to Corporal Travis Eichelberger two years ago. Now officials determined the 22-year-old Kansas man was run over by a U.S. tank and not attacked by the enemy, as required. Ten other Marines also received so-called letters of error.

In Lansing, Michigan, an apartment building housing nearly three dozen units is engulfed in flames, as you can see from this video. Police say a car slammed into the building and ruptured a gas line, but officers were able to pull the driver from the wreckage and save him. Only one other injury is reported.

And in Maywood, Illinois, a baby girl believed to be the world's smallest surviving infant is home from the hospital this morning. Remasa Ruman (ph) was about the size of a cell phone when she was born in September, weighing 8.6 ounces and 9 1/2 inches long. Well, when she was discharged yesterday, she weighed 5 1/2 pounds and was nearly 17 inches long.

SANCHEZ: And then there's this story: For a lonely sergeant in the Army, meeting the perfect woman online was indeed a dream come true. But then his dream turned into a nightmare. How, you may ask? Well, he got an e-mail suddenly and discovered a secret.

Here is CNN's Gary Tuchman.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Staff Sergeant Mark Hunt had been alone for many years when he met a woman in an Internet chat room.

STAFF SGT. MARK HUNT, MARRIED ACCUSED BIGAMIST: I started falling in love with her pretty much within a week or so after I started talking to her, that's when I said, she's the one.

TUCHMAN: Sergeant Hunt is based in Missouri's Fort Leonard Wood, a 19-year veteran of the U.S. Army, but not a veteran of a truly loving relationship. That's the major reason he was so happy.

HUNT: She had asked me if I wanted to get married. I said, yes, of course, I do.

TUCHMAN: Mark Hunt and Julia Bish (ph) got married in Las Vegas last February. Sergeant Hunt's parents and brothers and sister were witnesses. The sergeant says plans were made for Julia Bish to move from Pennsylvania so the two could be together, but it didn't happen.

Instead, newlywed Mark Hunt received an e-mail from this man who said he has been married to Julia Bish for 15 years and has five children with her.

HUNT: I about had a coronary heart attack. I about died, but I still was in love with her. I didn't want to believe it.

TUCHMAN: But in December, Julia Bish was arrested on charges of bigamy.

HUNT: It basically destroyed me. I didn't know what to do no more. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't really eat. I started losing weight again.

TUCHMAN: Julia Bish admits she lived a secret life, not only marrying Sergeant Hunt, but another man in Las Vegas in 2002. She claims she did it to make herself safer from husband No. 1.

JULIA BISH, ACCUSED BIGAMIST: I left in a very abusive relationship, and I'm sorry that Mr. Bish is using this to control me.

TUCHMAN: Mr. Bish, who turned his wife in, says abuse allegations are untrue and adds...

RANDY BISH, FIRST HUSBAND: My only comment right now is that my only concern is for the children.

TUCHMAN: Julia Bish's attorney says she is not guilty because of a technicality.

LARRY BURNS, JULIA BISH'S ATTORNEY: What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Pennsylvania has no jurisdiction over actions of people out in Las Vegas and they never have.

TUCHMAN: Is that true?

PROF. MICHAEL BROYDE, EMORY UNIV. SCHOOL OF LAW: If you are validly married to a person in Pennsylvania and then you validly marry another in Las Vegas, you have violated the bigamy statute. No question about it.

TUCHMAN (on camera): Sergeant Hunt says he hopes to get an annulment by the end of the month. And when he gets married again, not surprisingly, he is adamant that he'll know a lot more about the bride-to-be beforehand.

(voice-over): But despite everything that has happened, he hasn't ruled out that bride could be Julia Bish again, who tells CNN she loves Mark Hunt and wants him back.

Gary Tuchman, CNN, St. Robert, Missouri.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Proving once again that love is, well, what it is. Anderson Cooper has another story of spousal deceit. Tonight a woman -- she's married for 15 years, mother of two, describes herself as a loyal wife. Oh, she's been having an affair for four years. Secret lives of suburban wives on "ANDERSON COOPER 360." That's tonight at 7:00 p.m. Eastern, of course.

NGUYEN: Oh, the tangled web we weave.

Well, when we come back, the ABCs of BTK. That's right. The world of a killer on the loose enters America's classroom. We will tell you how.

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NGUYEN: Big news today, shake-up there at Hewlett-Packard.

SANCHEZ: Yes. The person at the top is no longer at the top. Maybe somewhere near the bottom, huh? Susan Lisovicz following this one for us. We don't know -- just know she ain't at the top, right?

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Betty and Rick.

Yes. The big business story today, undoubtedly, that one of the most powerful women in corporate America has been ousted. Carly Fiorina has resigned as chairman and chief executive of Hewlett- Packard, forced out by its dissatisfied board of directors. Fiorina, of course, is one of the few women to head a Fortune 500 company. She pushed through H.P.'s controversial acquisition of Compaq in 2002, despite fierce resistance from some shareholders and directors, and even one of the descendants of the company's founders, Walter Hewlett.

Hewlett-Packard lost its lead in the P.C. market to Dell last year, but H.P.'s revenues have soared during Fiorina's five years at the helm at the company. Still the stock has floundered from its high of $70, trading now around $20. Her company board announced a reorganization last month that chipped away Fiorina's responsibilities.

H.P. shares are jumping on the news. The most actively traded issue here at the New York Stock Exchange, up 8.5 percent. Hewlett- Packard is one of the Dow 30 stocks and it is not helping the broader market, however.

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SANCHEZ: This isn't a topic that you'd usually find in your typical college course syllabus.

NGUYEN: In fact, it is a real life criminal case that is being probed in universities across the state. Up next, what's attracting professors to the Kansas BTK killer? We'll explain.

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NGUYEN: In Wichita, Kansas, the serial killer known only as "BTK" is still at large, suspected to be taunting police with messages to the local media. Now TV station KAKE has received at least three such messages in recent weeks, although the contents have not been made public. Now the case involves at least eight unsolved murderers going back to 1974.

SANCHEZ: What's interesting about this 30-year-old case and this mysterious killer is it's not only drawing the attention of the police. It's also getting attention from the media, with this back- and-forth thing that we've been seeing with the station.

Also some criminal justice teachers around the country are now using it as a tool and try and teach their students.

One such professor is good enough to come by and joins us now. He's Dr. Volkan Topalli. He teaches criminology over at Georgia State University.

Thanks for being with us.

How are you using this in the classroom?

VOLKAN TOPALLI, GEORGIA STATE UNIV.: I teach a course on aggression and violence, and it covers the topic from biology, psychology, sociology, anthropology.

SANCHEZ: So you're trying to figure it out with your students?

TOPALLI: Not trying to figure it out as much as explain to the students what the nature of the crime is and let them understand it within the theoretical perspectives that I provide in the classroom.

SANCHEZ: OK, you're using professorial speak.

TOPALLI: Sorry.

SANCHEZ: Bring it down for us a little bit.

I think with I heard you say is that you're trying to use what this guy is doing to try and explain to your students what a possible pattern may be in other cases.

TOPALLI: The courses and overview of aggression and violence, and I started using the case in the class mainly because the students have been nagging me, and they want to be learning about the case.

SANCHEZ: They're trying to be like little Barnaby Jones.

TOPALLI: Yes, there's a lot of that going on.

So part of what we do is we provide them with a theoretical perspective at the beginning of the course, and then we provide them with opportunities to apply that later on the course. The very last class will be focused on serial killers, and I'm going to use the BTK case as a base from which to lecture.

SANCHEZ: Let me be one of your students then and use you as my professor and ask you some questions that other people will probably ask -- who is this guy?

TOPALLI: Well, I mean, I think it's hard to tell right now. He's -- obviously enjoying the amount of attention that he's getting. He spends a lot of time writing back and forth to the police and to the radio stations. And there's been a lot of speculation that he's more interested in the fame than he is in the actual violence, so.

SANCHEZ: So you think this is a person who is, can I say, a head case?

TOPALLI: Well, I...

SANCHEZ: Somebody who's just convinced, he's diluted, he's thinking he's something he's not, and he's doing these things because he wants to hurt people to get famous?

TOPALLI: I think that there's been a number of profiles that have been formulated about him over the past number of years. And certainly he's tried to indicate that that's what he is about. I think if you look at some of the letters that he's written to police, he talks about how he has a monster within, and he isn't in control of what he's doing, but it's really hard to tell whether or not he's telling the truth in those letters.

SANCHEZ: How do your students use this as an example of other cases, when really there haven't been -- or maybe there have. We think about to Son of Sam and possibly others. Is this guy typical, or atypical, or what is it?

TOPALLI: Well, I think in the case of serial killing, you really don't have typical cases, because it's such a rare type of crime. Less than 1 percent of homicides in the United States are committed by serial killers.

SANCHEZ: What characterizes serial killers?

TOPALLI: Anybody who kills in serial fashion, meaning that they kill more than one person over a period of time.

SANCHEZ: I mean don't mean that. I mean psychologically, what makes these guys different from the rest of us that would allow them to do something so heinous?

TOPALLI: Well, I mean, there's obviously the will to do so, and the enjoyment of doing it. There's also indications that they may have had problems when they were younger, that they have not developed properly, mentally.

SANCHEZ: That's what you work on, trying to find that profile, because if you find the profile, you can sometimes find the person?

TOPALLI: Sometimes you can. Although to be honest with you, most these serial killers are caught either because they make mistakes, or because of just good old-fashioned police work. Profiling is really a small part of catching serial killers.

SANCHEZ: Dr. Volkan Topalli, criminal justice professor over at Georgia State, we thank you, sir, for being with us.

TOPALLI: My pleasure.

SANCHEZ: Thanks for coming in. Good information.

Betty, over to you.

NGUYEN: It's 10:54 on the East Coast, 7:54 on the West. Ceremonies are planned on both coasts today to mark the issuance of Ronald Reagan's stamp. Stay with us. We'll be back with a check on your forecast as well.

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Aired February 9, 2005 - 10:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: We're just about at the midpoint here at CNN, where, boy, things are starting to get hectic this morning. I'm Rick Sanchez.
BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Betty Nguyen.

We've got a lot to tell you about, so let's get right to it. Now in the news, We are following a developing story out of central Florida. Three Lake County deputies have been shot, and a search is under way -- this is video of that search -- for the suspect who fled on an off-road motorcycle. The suspect's wife says he has an arsenal of weapons and the property in the Ocala National Forest could be booby-trapped. The circumstances of the shooting are not clear as of just yet. We're be following it.

This hour on Capitol Hill, Congress continues its focus on proposed changes to Social Security. Right now the House Budget Committee is holding a hearing on President Bush's call to privatize. Mr. Bush has launched a campaign-style blitz to sell the overhaul, but Democrats vow to fight it to the end.

And an Americans Airline captain is now the latest pilot to report a laser beam shining into the cockpit. It came as the jetliner was landing without incident at the Dallas Ft. Worth International Airport. The FAA is investigating this report and several others like it from around the country.

DNA tests were finally held today for "Baby 81," the baby found in the ravages of Sri Lanka's tsunami. Nine women initially claimed the baby as their lost child, but only one couple is now pursuing custody in court. The DNA results, which could be several days away, would have to confirm that before custody is granted.

And Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is meeting with his NATO counterparts and is expected to deliver a call for greater support of U.S.-led missions, specifically Rumsfeld wants a trans-Atlantic allies to help shoulder the burden of military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

SANCHEZ: Let's set the scene for you now out of this Orlando story that we've been following for you. It appears that three sheriff's deputies showed up at a house where there was a domestic dispute. They say a man inside suddenly started firing at them. There's a map of the area. It's in Lake County, not far from Disney World, in the Orlando area. As a result, one sheriff's deputy has already been airlifted to a hospital, a school in the area is in lockdown, a perimeter has been set up and they are looking for this gunmen.

Now moments ago we received some sound that we'd like to share with you now. This is from the reporter on a helicopter. His name is Steve Barrett, from television station WFTV. Here it is.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

STEVE BARRETT, WFTV REPORTER: ... is definitely locked down right now. In fact, the worry is that this man is armed and out he is out on a motorcycle in the area. If we can pull out that quarry (ph) a little bit and show the area, a very wooded area, with trails that easily a motorcycle can move in and out all of the area around here. You see the woods all around this Lake Catherine (ph) Heights area.

But at this point, it is believed that the Lake County Sheriff's office helicopter may have spotted this suspect. His wife has told deputies that he has an arsenal of weapons, his piece of property may be booby-trapped, in fact. This all started when deputies arrived to a domestic disturbance, and this man apparently opened fire on deputies. Three deputies shot. One's been transported by air. Two have been transported by ground. In fact, there are still two medical helicopters standing by sitting on the ground right now.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Once again, the original report that we have received is that he had somehow fled on a motorcycle. We're hoping to confirm what you just heard from the reporter that, in fact, police have spotted him.

If we get any new information on this story, obviously we're going to get back to it.

In fact, we're getting some pictures now. In fact, we're getting some pictures now just to show you. You heard in that report moments ago the reporter mention that the property may be booby-trapped. That's the property in question, the area that the police first responded to earlier in the day when they were shot at. Whether it's booby-trapped, how it's booby-trapped, certainly at this point we don't know. Again, that's information coming from the man's wife, she reported that to the police as this ongoing situation continues there in the area of Orlando.

Betty, over to you.

NGUYEN: We want to get to news out of Iraq right now. Election officials there reportedly aren't ready to say who won the January 30th national elections. And according to the Associated Press, officials say 300 ballot boxes are going to have to be recounted. How long will it take? Well, they don't know. Meanwhile, Haifa Street in downtown Baghdad is the scene of a blistering gun battle this morning between Iraqi police and insurgents. Look at this video.

An Iraqi police video says it is not clear if the black smoke seen her was caused by the fighting. Also today a senior Iraqi official was kidnapped from his Baghdad home. Police say he works with the interior ministry. And in Basra, a reporter with the U.S. backed Al-Hurra TV was killed outside his home, along with his 6-year- old son. Officials say gunmen fired On Abdul Hussein Khazaal (ph) when his bodyguards went back inside the house.

Diesel fuel in Iraq costs about 20 cents per gallon, making it some of the cheapest in the world. The trick, though, is finding it.

CNN's Jane Arraf examines the frustration of Iraqi truckers running on empty.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE ARRAF, CNN BAGHDAD BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): It's a weekday morning at a gas station in oil-rich Iraq and the drivers are seething. Ahmed Khadem and his friends say they've been waiting for seven hours now to be let through this gate to fill their tanks.

"This is Bush and Allawi's democracy," Khadem says, referring to the Iraqi prime minister, "no oil, no diesel, no gasoline, no country."

The fuel shortage is one of the biggest problems in Iraq. In some places, a tax on every part of the oil industry have brought fuel distribution to a virtual halt. It's a problem that U.S. forces will be handing over to a newly elected Iraqi government.

(on camera): The U.S. military still plays a large role in most parts of the country. But, increasingly, people here seem to be blaming their problems on Iraqi leaders, rather than American officials and looking to Iraqi leaders to solve them.

"Let Allawi come here. Iyad Allawi, Iyad Allawi, where are you?" shouts Salah Hasanobas (ph). He says he's been waiting since 4:00 a.m., trying to make enough money to feed his seven children. "This never happened in Saddam's time," he adds.

At about five cents a liter, this is some of the cheapest diesel in the world, but there isn't enough of it. Moufed Fleiyeh brings foodstuffs from the port of Baquba in Jordan. He says he's allowed only 300 liters of diesel at a time.

MOUFED FLEIYEH, IRAQI CITIZEN (through translator): I can't even get to the border on that. I spend 10 or fifteen days to get enough gas for the trip.

ARRAF: Even before the results are announced, these men have high expectations that a new Iraqi government will be able to solve problems the Americans didn't.

Jane Arraf, CNN, near Maqtoviah (ph), Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Let's do this for you now, take a look at some of the stories that are making news from coast to coast. NGUYEN: The U.S. Marine Corps is revoking the Purple Heart it awarded to Corporal Travis Eichelberger two years ago. Now officials determined the 22-year-old Kansas man was run over by a U.S. tank and not attacked by the enemy, as required. Ten other Marines also received so-called letters of error.

In Lansing, Michigan, an apartment building housing nearly three dozen units is engulfed in flames, as you can see from this video. Police say a car slammed into the building and ruptured a gas line, but officers were able to pull the driver from the wreckage and save him. Only one other injury is reported.

And in Maywood, Illinois, a baby girl believed to be the world's smallest surviving infant is home from the hospital this morning. Remasa Ruman (ph) was about the size of a cell phone when she was born in September, weighing 8.6 ounces and 9 1/2 inches long. Well, when she was discharged yesterday, she weighed 5 1/2 pounds and was nearly 17 inches long.

SANCHEZ: And then there's this story: For a lonely sergeant in the Army, meeting the perfect woman online was indeed a dream come true. But then his dream turned into a nightmare. How, you may ask? Well, he got an e-mail suddenly and discovered a secret.

Here is CNN's Gary Tuchman.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Staff Sergeant Mark Hunt had been alone for many years when he met a woman in an Internet chat room.

STAFF SGT. MARK HUNT, MARRIED ACCUSED BIGAMIST: I started falling in love with her pretty much within a week or so after I started talking to her, that's when I said, she's the one.

TUCHMAN: Sergeant Hunt is based in Missouri's Fort Leonard Wood, a 19-year veteran of the U.S. Army, but not a veteran of a truly loving relationship. That's the major reason he was so happy.

HUNT: She had asked me if I wanted to get married. I said, yes, of course, I do.

TUCHMAN: Mark Hunt and Julia Bish (ph) got married in Las Vegas last February. Sergeant Hunt's parents and brothers and sister were witnesses. The sergeant says plans were made for Julia Bish to move from Pennsylvania so the two could be together, but it didn't happen.

Instead, newlywed Mark Hunt received an e-mail from this man who said he has been married to Julia Bish for 15 years and has five children with her.

HUNT: I about had a coronary heart attack. I about died, but I still was in love with her. I didn't want to believe it.

TUCHMAN: But in December, Julia Bish was arrested on charges of bigamy.

HUNT: It basically destroyed me. I didn't know what to do no more. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't really eat. I started losing weight again.

TUCHMAN: Julia Bish admits she lived a secret life, not only marrying Sergeant Hunt, but another man in Las Vegas in 2002. She claims she did it to make herself safer from husband No. 1.

JULIA BISH, ACCUSED BIGAMIST: I left in a very abusive relationship, and I'm sorry that Mr. Bish is using this to control me.

TUCHMAN: Mr. Bish, who turned his wife in, says abuse allegations are untrue and adds...

RANDY BISH, FIRST HUSBAND: My only comment right now is that my only concern is for the children.

TUCHMAN: Julia Bish's attorney says she is not guilty because of a technicality.

LARRY BURNS, JULIA BISH'S ATTORNEY: What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Pennsylvania has no jurisdiction over actions of people out in Las Vegas and they never have.

TUCHMAN: Is that true?

PROF. MICHAEL BROYDE, EMORY UNIV. SCHOOL OF LAW: If you are validly married to a person in Pennsylvania and then you validly marry another in Las Vegas, you have violated the bigamy statute. No question about it.

TUCHMAN (on camera): Sergeant Hunt says he hopes to get an annulment by the end of the month. And when he gets married again, not surprisingly, he is adamant that he'll know a lot more about the bride-to-be beforehand.

(voice-over): But despite everything that has happened, he hasn't ruled out that bride could be Julia Bish again, who tells CNN she loves Mark Hunt and wants him back.

Gary Tuchman, CNN, St. Robert, Missouri.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Proving once again that love is, well, what it is. Anderson Cooper has another story of spousal deceit. Tonight a woman -- she's married for 15 years, mother of two, describes herself as a loyal wife. Oh, she's been having an affair for four years. Secret lives of suburban wives on "ANDERSON COOPER 360." That's tonight at 7:00 p.m. Eastern, of course.

NGUYEN: Oh, the tangled web we weave.

Well, when we come back, the ABCs of BTK. That's right. The world of a killer on the loose enters America's classroom. We will tell you how.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

NGUYEN: Big news today, shake-up there at Hewlett-Packard.

SANCHEZ: Yes. The person at the top is no longer at the top. Maybe somewhere near the bottom, huh? Susan Lisovicz following this one for us. We don't know -- just know she ain't at the top, right?

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Betty and Rick.

Yes. The big business story today, undoubtedly, that one of the most powerful women in corporate America has been ousted. Carly Fiorina has resigned as chairman and chief executive of Hewlett- Packard, forced out by its dissatisfied board of directors. Fiorina, of course, is one of the few women to head a Fortune 500 company. She pushed through H.P.'s controversial acquisition of Compaq in 2002, despite fierce resistance from some shareholders and directors, and even one of the descendants of the company's founders, Walter Hewlett.

Hewlett-Packard lost its lead in the P.C. market to Dell last year, but H.P.'s revenues have soared during Fiorina's five years at the helm at the company. Still the stock has floundered from its high of $70, trading now around $20. Her company board announced a reorganization last month that chipped away Fiorina's responsibilities.

H.P. shares are jumping on the news. The most actively traded issue here at the New York Stock Exchange, up 8.5 percent. Hewlett- Packard is one of the Dow 30 stocks and it is not helping the broader market, however.

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SANCHEZ: This isn't a topic that you'd usually find in your typical college course syllabus.

NGUYEN: In fact, it is a real life criminal case that is being probed in universities across the state. Up next, what's attracting professors to the Kansas BTK killer? We'll explain.

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NGUYEN: In Wichita, Kansas, the serial killer known only as "BTK" is still at large, suspected to be taunting police with messages to the local media. Now TV station KAKE has received at least three such messages in recent weeks, although the contents have not been made public. Now the case involves at least eight unsolved murderers going back to 1974.

SANCHEZ: What's interesting about this 30-year-old case and this mysterious killer is it's not only drawing the attention of the police. It's also getting attention from the media, with this back- and-forth thing that we've been seeing with the station.

Also some criminal justice teachers around the country are now using it as a tool and try and teach their students.

One such professor is good enough to come by and joins us now. He's Dr. Volkan Topalli. He teaches criminology over at Georgia State University.

Thanks for being with us.

How are you using this in the classroom?

VOLKAN TOPALLI, GEORGIA STATE UNIV.: I teach a course on aggression and violence, and it covers the topic from biology, psychology, sociology, anthropology.

SANCHEZ: So you're trying to figure it out with your students?

TOPALLI: Not trying to figure it out as much as explain to the students what the nature of the crime is and let them understand it within the theoretical perspectives that I provide in the classroom.

SANCHEZ: OK, you're using professorial speak.

TOPALLI: Sorry.

SANCHEZ: Bring it down for us a little bit.

I think with I heard you say is that you're trying to use what this guy is doing to try and explain to your students what a possible pattern may be in other cases.

TOPALLI: The courses and overview of aggression and violence, and I started using the case in the class mainly because the students have been nagging me, and they want to be learning about the case.

SANCHEZ: They're trying to be like little Barnaby Jones.

TOPALLI: Yes, there's a lot of that going on.

So part of what we do is we provide them with a theoretical perspective at the beginning of the course, and then we provide them with opportunities to apply that later on the course. The very last class will be focused on serial killers, and I'm going to use the BTK case as a base from which to lecture.

SANCHEZ: Let me be one of your students then and use you as my professor and ask you some questions that other people will probably ask -- who is this guy?

TOPALLI: Well, I mean, I think it's hard to tell right now. He's -- obviously enjoying the amount of attention that he's getting. He spends a lot of time writing back and forth to the police and to the radio stations. And there's been a lot of speculation that he's more interested in the fame than he is in the actual violence, so.

SANCHEZ: So you think this is a person who is, can I say, a head case?

TOPALLI: Well, I...

SANCHEZ: Somebody who's just convinced, he's diluted, he's thinking he's something he's not, and he's doing these things because he wants to hurt people to get famous?

TOPALLI: I think that there's been a number of profiles that have been formulated about him over the past number of years. And certainly he's tried to indicate that that's what he is about. I think if you look at some of the letters that he's written to police, he talks about how he has a monster within, and he isn't in control of what he's doing, but it's really hard to tell whether or not he's telling the truth in those letters.

SANCHEZ: How do your students use this as an example of other cases, when really there haven't been -- or maybe there have. We think about to Son of Sam and possibly others. Is this guy typical, or atypical, or what is it?

TOPALLI: Well, I think in the case of serial killing, you really don't have typical cases, because it's such a rare type of crime. Less than 1 percent of homicides in the United States are committed by serial killers.

SANCHEZ: What characterizes serial killers?

TOPALLI: Anybody who kills in serial fashion, meaning that they kill more than one person over a period of time.

SANCHEZ: I mean don't mean that. I mean psychologically, what makes these guys different from the rest of us that would allow them to do something so heinous?

TOPALLI: Well, I mean, there's obviously the will to do so, and the enjoyment of doing it. There's also indications that they may have had problems when they were younger, that they have not developed properly, mentally.

SANCHEZ: That's what you work on, trying to find that profile, because if you find the profile, you can sometimes find the person?

TOPALLI: Sometimes you can. Although to be honest with you, most these serial killers are caught either because they make mistakes, or because of just good old-fashioned police work. Profiling is really a small part of catching serial killers.

SANCHEZ: Dr. Volkan Topalli, criminal justice professor over at Georgia State, we thank you, sir, for being with us.

TOPALLI: My pleasure.

SANCHEZ: Thanks for coming in. Good information.

Betty, over to you.

NGUYEN: It's 10:54 on the East Coast, 7:54 on the West. Ceremonies are planned on both coasts today to mark the issuance of Ronald Reagan's stamp. Stay with us. We'll be back with a check on your forecast as well.

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