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2004 Safest Year to Fly; Could Submarine Sonar Cause Dolphins to Beach Themselves?
Aired March 07, 2005 - 19:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from New York. I'm Anderson Cooper.
Here are the top stories at this hour.
In Pittsburgh, a role reversal of sorts, the president introducing the first lady today, and listened as she announced a summit to combat youth gangs and drug use.
The global airlines industry says 2004 was the safest year ever for commercial air travel. The chances of dying in an airline accident last year were only 1 in 10 million.
And the Navy is investigating whether sonar use by its submarines might have caused the beaching of more than 60 dolphins off the Florida Keys. Caretakers are asking for more volunteers to help save the dolphins.
Going to have another update on the top stories in about 15 minutes.
360 starts right now.
What really happened when crazed chimpanzees attacked? You've seen the headlines. Now hear for yourself from the woman who survived an unimaginable attack.
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LADONNA DAVIS, ATTACKED BY CHIMPANZEES: He just reached around with his head and chomped off my thumb.
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COOPER: Tonight, she tells her harrowing tale of survival, and what the two chimps did to her husband, whose life now hangs in the balance.
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DAVIS: They bit off all of his fingers and half of one hand.
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COOPER: Mayhem at the gas pump, prices on the rise, and more motorists are stealing gas. Tonight, why are so many people pumping and running?
More than two months after the tsunami, more victims are being identified. Can science help one mother's search for her lost daughter?
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ANNA-LIE KJELLANDER, ANNA KJELLANDER'S MOTHER: It's not knowing if she's dead or alive, or not knowing that she's missing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COOPER: And our special series, Of Two Minds, the differences between men and women. Tonight, sex on the brain, how your brain is really different from the opposite sex.
ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.
COOPER: Hey, good evening.
We begin tonight with an attack that is simply hard to imagine, an attack by chimpanzees on two humans. Tonight, we have new details of exactly what happened, and you will hear from a woman whose thumb was bitten off, whose husband at this very moment lies in a hospital with unimaginable injuries.
Ladonna Davis and her husband were visiting a chimp they owned named Moe, a chimp they raised for 30 years. And suddenly, they were attacked, unprovoked, caught completely by surprise. You'll hear from Ladonna in a moment.
But first, CNN's Heidi Collins takes us beyond the headlines with a frantic 911 call moments after the attack.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fire department, what is the address of your emergency?
MARK CARRUTHERS: Yes, ma'am, I need an ambulance here immediately, the Animal Haven Chimpanzee Sanctuary.
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HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): You could hear the terror in the voice of the caller, and a chimpanzee screeching in the background. Something awful had happened at the Animal Haven ranch.
St. James Davis was visiting the sanctuary with his wife, Ladonna, throwing a birthday party for their pet chimp, Moe, when they were suddenly viciously attacked by two other chimps.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A chimpanzee?
CARRUTHERS: A man's been attacked by two chimpanzees. He is very critical.
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COLLINS: The panicked voice on the telephone belongs to Mark Carruthers, son-in-law of the sanctuary's owners, Ralph and Virginia Brauer (ph). He witnessed the attack and may have saved St. James Davis's life.
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CARRUTHERS: Listen, there are still two chimpanzees loose. They are not dangerous.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: The two that did attack him are down, I have just shot them.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
COLLINS: As Davis lay bleeding on the ground, a breathless Carruthers tries to describe the magnitude of the mauled man's injuries to the 911 operator.
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CARRUTHERS: Tell me his injuries and repeat them. They need to know. They tore out his eye.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They tore out his eye?
CARRUTHERS: What's that? Left hand. Left foot.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Left Foot.
CARRUTHERS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. All right, I'm going to give you some instructions. I'm going to tell you how to help him. I need you to relay this for me, OK, Mark?
CARRUTHERS: OK.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
COOPER: And he does, shouting instructions at Davis's wife, who's trying desperately to keep her husband alive.
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CARRUTHERS: Ladonna, I want you to take these towels, apply pressure, as even pressure as you can to all of those wounds.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.
CARRUTHERS: And leave them (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't lift them up.
CARRUTHERS: And put them on all of the wounds that you can, and apply pressure, and hold them there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, now, are we getting some of that bleeding controlled?
CARRUTHERS: Ladonna, put the pressure on the wounds, stay there with him. You need to stay there with him and apply pressure to those wounds.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
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COLLINS: And Ladonna Davis did just that.
Shortly after St. James Davis was rushed to the hospital. His family has requested confidentiality concerning his well-being, as you might imagine, after going through something like this.
We do understand, though, Anderson, that he had surgery that night, the same night of the attack, which would have been Thursday, and he is now in intensive care tonight.
COOPER: Yes, unbelievable injuries he sustained. Heidi Collins, thanks very much.
Earlier I spoke with Ladonna Davis about this unbelievable attack.
LADONNA DAVIS, ATTACKED BY CHIMPANZEES: I'm holding my own. It hurts a little bit, but I'm going to be fine.
COOPER: Were they able to...
DAVIS: Thank you.
COOPER: ... to reattach your finger?
DAVIS: No. The thumb is severed all the way down.
COOPER: And your husband, St. James, how is he doing?
DAVIS: Right now, I've been have advised that it's kind of a minute-by-minute situation, and mainly because they have to keep his breathing constant in order for him to live.
COOPER: The surgery that they've done on him, do you know what part are they operating? I mean, are they trying to do something with his face? Or I know his foot was also, I think, ripped off, and his testicles as well.
DAVIS: The -- most of the 12-hour surgery was on his face, because of the eye socket being ripped off, the cheek, the nose, and a little bit of the side of the mouth. As I understand it, the eye socket was -- or the eye was put back in, and they did -- they reattached some of the skin to the lower area. He still has no nose, just two little tubes, but a trach. And the next surgery will hopefully cover his foot.
COOPER: I'm so sorry for what you've both been through. You had gone to this place because your chimpanzee, Moe, who is living there -- it was, I guess, Moe's birthday. You went there with a cake. What happened exactly?
DAVIS: We had taken a birthday cake up, which we give to all of the animals on the compound, drinks and paper plates and cups and napkins. And we'd set up a little table just two feet from Moe. And St. James was pouring out the chocolate milk. And Moe had already had a cup, and was clapping his hands for another one.
So St. James bent down to fill his cup up and finish his, and I had cut two pieces of cake. And I turned to the facility, and gave them their cake. I only had to make a step. And I turned back around to cut another piece of cake. Then the lady was going to take the cake to the rest of the compound for all the other animals.
And when I turned, my left eye caught a movement. And I looked up. And I saw two chimps. And when we made eye contact, they just took off.
COOPER: And they took off running to her and to her husband. You're going to hear more of my interview with Ladonna Davis a little bit later on in this hour of 360.
Coming up next, however, gas and go. Fuel prices spiking at the pump, and more people taking off without paying. They're just driving off, not realizing they've been caught on videotape. We'll show you the tapes ahead.
Plus, swept away from her father's arms, a little girl lost, a child of the tsunami. Tonight, some answers. What really happened to little Anna?
Also ahead tonight, the birds and the bees and your brain, why men and women think differently about sex. The answer is as clear as the brain in your head.
All that ahead. First, your picks, the most popular stories on CNN.com right now.
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COOPER: Well, if you've been to the pump lately, you already know, just in time for the spring thaw, just as you're getting ready to plan a summer vacation, gas prices are hitting new highs, in some places up 30 cents since the start of the year. What we've also noticed, however, is that as the cost of gas rises, there is also a rise in people trying to avoid that cost. They're filling up their tanks, and they're just taking off.
Here's CNN's Dan Lothian.
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DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's an old crime, pumped to new levels, hitting the Tiger Mart in Salisbury, Maryland, the B.P. Amoco station in Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and this Mobil station in Brookline, Massachusetts.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A customer took off with $36 of gasoline. Once the light became green, flew out of here like you wouldn't believe.
LOTHIAN: Soaring gas prices that have frustrated some drivers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been upset about it.
LOTHIAN: And spawned this Boycott Gas Web site by this angry real estate broker.
JOHN TYLER, BOYCOTTGASOLINE.COM: This one just did it. They're into my wallet. I didn't like it.
LOTHIAN: Have been driving up so-called gas-and-dash incidents, costing some retailers as much as $800 in losses a month.
JEFF LENARD, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CONVENIENCE STORES: It's gone from a teen, who might be doing it for the thrill as much as the $5 or $10 stolen, to all demographics, including late-model SUVs pulling out with upwards of $50 or even $60 worth of gas.
LOTHIAN: In surveillance tape obtained by CNN from the Maryland mart, a driver pulls in, fills up, replaces the gas cap, while appearing to look around, makes an odd maneuver, then, according to management, drives off without paying a dime.
The same, they allege, for this woman, who casually cleans her windshield before taking off. And one more flies an American flag while allegedly pumping and running.
(on camera): If this is such a big problem, then why don't all retailers require everyone to prepay? Experts say that's because, given the options, some customers will go to a station that allows them to pump first and pay later.
(voice-over): And there's the issue of profits.
LENARD: They're also are less likely to go inside the store and buy other items, where margins are much healthier.
LOTHIAN: Surveillance cameras, like this one in Wisconsin, help retailers track the license plate numbers of offenders. And in some 25 states, punishment could include the temporary loss of a driver's license.
In Brookline, Elias Audi (ph) hopes to install security cameras at his station, so the next time someone drives off with his gas, he'll have the evidence on tape.
Dan Lothian, CNN, Boston.
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COOPER: Unbelievable, a guy driving around with an American flag on his car, and takes off.
360 next, a child swept from her father's arms during the tsunami. We brought you her story first. Tonight, we go beyond the headlines for an update. What really happened to little Anna?
Also tonight, chimpanzees attack, and mangle a man in front of his wife. They bit off his face, his foot. They didn't stop there. Tonight, she reveals the horror of the attack.
And a little later, men, women, sex, and your brain. What turns you on may all be found in your head. Part of our weeklong special series. We're covering all the angles.
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COOPER: Welcome back to 360.
Some fascinating testimony today in the Michael Jackson trial, when the prosecution put the brother of the alleged victim on the stand.
Here with details and the rest of the top stories at this hour is Erica Hill from "HEADLINE NEWS." Hey, Erica.
ERICA HILL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Anderson.
Yes, fascinating, and what you might call actually fairly explicit, so just a warning to everybody there about this testimony we heard in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial today.
The younger brother of Jackson's accuser took the stand and said the singer showed them sexually explicit Web sites and gave them wine, which he allegedly called Jesus juice. The boy said Jackson warned the kids, quote, "Not to tell your parents what we did." Jackson has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
Martha Stewart received a rousing welcome today when she visited the offices of her media company. She told employees she thought of them every day while she was in prison, and that they are her heroes. Stewart was not yet wearing the electronic ankle bracelet she'll be required to wear during her five month home detention. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) at that time at her estate in Bedford, New York, but will, of course, be able to leave her home to go to work for 48 hours each week. Ed McMahon is in the hospital after falling at his home. He has a concussion and a gash on the head, which had to stitched up. But doctors say the former "Tonight" show co-host should be able to go home in a few days.
And if you're in the market for a new car, small cars are taking a bit of a hit from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. In a recent roundup of side-impact crash tests, the Institute found only the Toyota Corolla and the Chevrolet Cobalt performed well enough to earn an acceptable rating, and that being attributed too to their side airbags. Cars earning poor ratings include the Ford Focus, Mazda 3, Mitsubishi Lancer, Saturn Ion, and Volkswagen's new Beetle.
And that's going to do it for us from here, Anderson. Back to you.
COOPER: All right, Erica, thanks. Next time, would you ask the "HEADLINE NEWS" band to turn it down just a little bit?
HILL: I'll work on that. But, you know, they're very proud of their, you know, of their skills, so...
COOPER: I know. Well, these kids with their music, the -- with the rock and roll...
HILL: It's crazy, the kids these days.
COOPER: ... they love it. Erica, thanks.
Tonight, the search for a Chicago man missing since last year's tsunami has ended. The remains of Ben Abels were found this weekend in Thailand. He was 33 years old, he was on vacation when the waves hit. A private burial is planned for later this week.
This has been one of the most-viewed stories on CNN.com all day. Every day, 360's Rudi Bakhtiar looks into the Web stores to bring an angle you won't see anywhere else. Rudi, what did you find today?
RUDI BAKHTIAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson, another tsunami survivor has gone back to the ruins on a mission no mother should ever have to take.
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BAKHTIAR (voice-over): It has been more than two months since the tsunami washed away virtually everything in its path. Today, the number of people dead or missing is approaching 300,000.
Among the victims, 4-year-old Anna Kjellander from Sweden. She and her family were on Phi Phi Island in Thailand when the wave hit.
Her parents and 7-year-old brother survived the tsunami. Just days after the disaster, Anna's mother, Anna-Lie Kjellander, spoke to Anderson from a hospital in Bangkok about her little girl.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANNA-LIE KJELLANDER, ANNA KJELLANDER'S MOTHER: I would like to know either if she is alive, or if someone on Phi Phi, after the disaster, have seen some child lying on the ground looking like that. It's not knowing if she's dead or alive, or not knowing that she's missing.
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BAKHTIAR: Today, Anna-Lie is in Thailand, where she believes she may have found the body of her daughter. We talked to Anna-Lie's sister this afternoon. She tells us that Anna-Lie identified Anna in a photograph, but has to wait until Thai authorities can make a positive identification through DNA.
Her sister also told us that Anna's brother, Martin, is doing OK, but still has nightmares about what happened on that December day.
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BAKHTIAR: And I'm sure, Anderson, we haven't heard the last of these sad stories coming out of that area.
COOPER: Yes, the last -- when I had talked to her last, they had -- were just going back to Sweden, and the little boy, Martin, he wasn't speaking at all. He was so traumatized, he couldn't speak. So at least he's speaking a little bit.
There is some good news.
BAKHTIAR: Still having nightmares.
COOPER: Yes. There is some good news, though, about the number of orphans. People had thought the numbers were going to be huge, especially in Indonesia.
BAKHTIAR: Yes, you might remember the prime minister of Indonesia just last month had said that they're going to need 50,000 beds for the -- what they were calling orphans that they were going to find. And they've only found, in the Aceh Province, 116, far lower than they were predicting in that area or any other area.
And they're really saying that there's a sort of sad logic to this anomaly. They're saying that a lot of kids under the age of 5 just didn't make it.
COOPER: Couldn't run fast enough.
BAKHTIAR: Couldn't get out of it.
COOPER: All right. Rudi Bakhtiar, thanks very much.
And for former president George Bush, he's talking about the tsunami fund-raising mission he took with another ex-commander in chief. Here's a quick news note for you. Bush and Bill Clinton just wrapped up their tour of the countries devastated by the wave. Clinton said some $7 billion in donations have been pledged. And in a light-hearted revelation, Bush said that one night, Clinton allowed him to sleep in the only bed on the government's plane. Bush mentioned that the next morning, he walked into the other room and saw Clinton sound asleep on the plane's floor.
What really happened when crazed chimpanzees attacked? You've seen the headlines, now hear for yourself from the woman who survived an unimaginable attack.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAVIS: He just reached around with his head and chomped off my thumb.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COOPER: Tonight, she tells her harrowing tale of survival, and what the two chimps did to her husband, whose life now hangs in the balance.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAVIS: They bit off all of his fingers and half of one hand.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COOPER: And our special series, Of Two Minds, the differences between men and women. Tonight, sex on the brain, how your brain is really different from the opposite sex.
360 continues.
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COOPER: Earlier this hour, we heard firsthand what chimps like these could do if they turn violent. And they did, just last Thursday, at an animal sanctuary near Bakersfield, California.
Ladonna Davis and her husband, St. James, were attacked by two chimps. St. James was mauled. Tonight, he clings to life in a hospital.
In just a moment, we're going to continue my interview with Ladonna Davis, who describes what it was like when the chimps attacked.
But first, more from the 911 call made just moments after the attack.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fire department, what is the address of your emergency?
CARRUTHERS: Yes, ma'am, I need an ambulance here immediately, the Animal Haven Chimpanzee Sanctuary.
(CROSSTALK)
CARRUTHERS: ... attacked by two chimpanzees. He is very critical.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I'm going to get some information and we are going to get you help right out there.
CARRUTHERS: He has major...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE) injury. We have two...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are they loose?
CARRUTHERS: Excuse me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are the animals loose?
CARRUTHERS: There are...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are the animals...
CARRUTHERS: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- listen, yes, yes, listen. There' are still two chimpanzees loose. They are not dangerous.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I...
CARRUTHERS: The two that did attack him are down, I have just shot them.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
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CARRUTHERS: One individual was very tore up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: His wife is also going to be a patient.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: She lost her thumb.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is there any serious bleeding?
CARRUTHERS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, OK. Are they completely awake?
CARRUTHERS: I don't know, I'm not out there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, OK, sir. Now, they're getting started while we're on the phone. What part of the body was bitten?
CARRUTHERS: Face, back. His face is tore up really bad. His back is tore up. Leg, from what I saw. They were just attacking him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, when did this happen, Mark?
CARRUTHERS: This just happened.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
COOPER: One chimpanzee bit off his face, another took his foot, as well as his testicles.
Here's more from my interview with victim Ladonna Davis, who was accompanied by her attorney, Gloria Allred.
Those two chimps, were they in a cage at that point, or were they already loose?
DAVIS: They were loose. I believe four chimps got out, on a compound that's way lower than us. And four had gotten out, two females, I guess, that had run away. And then these two males must have come around from behind the building, so nobody saw them until they came over to our area.
And I tell you, when they get that run, there is not much time for decision making.
COOPER: So you made, you looked into their eyes, you made eye contact with them, and you knew there was going to be trouble.
DAVIS: I knew. Yes. It was not -- it was just -- you could -- yes. The signals were all there.
COOPER: Were they screaming? Were they crying, the chimps?
DAVIS: No, they weren't really making much of any sound. The judgment was already made, I think, of what he was going to do. And I don't know why. There are several theories that I kind of have. But, you know, nobody I don't think will ever know why. This was just something that happened. I don't -- It's hard to explain.
COOPER: So they charged towards you?
DAVIS: Yes. And when the male got to me, I was right in front of my husband. So I -- my back was to him. So he pushed at me, and I went around my husband's neck as I'm going down, and he just reached around with his head and chopped off my thumb. And I guess my husband realized that this was not going to be good. So as we're falling, he pushed me way back. I actually kind of tumbled a little bit. And they just physically went after him. One was at the head area and the other one was at the foot area.
COOPER: So they're both working really as a pair?
DAVIS: It was the big male that actually did the damage to me, that was the one that was going to be the aggressive one. And I guess he knew that the facial area was the contact area. Plus, they bit off all of his fingers and half of one hand.
COOPER: And were you -- did you witness all of this?
DAVIS: I couldn't see what they did to his face, but I knew he was trying to realize with them, and he was trying to make them understand, but it was so aggressive and so -- it was -- there was nothing you could do. Nothing you could do. It was awful. I can't open that door because if I open that door, it's horrendous. It's horrendous.
COOPER: Did you see Moe, Ladonna, during this point? I mean, Moe was just sort of sitting there?
DAVIS: Yes. One of the times -- with all this, I rolled over. I got -- I looked -- I brought my head up to Moe. And him and I made eye contact. And I could tell he -- he didn't understand this at all. I mean, he -- it was -- I don't think any of us have ever experienced -- I don't think he even thought this was capable.
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY: It must have been really disturbing to Moe, too, because Mr. Davis is the only parent that he's ever known other than Mrs. Davis. These have been his human parents shortly after birth, of course. He was orphaned, Moe, the chimp. His mother was killed and Mr. Davis brought him from Africa to the United States. So, they raised him in their home for over 30 years. He would sit at the breakfast table and have breakfast with them, wash dishes.
COOPER: Ladonna, does it change -- would you do it again? I mean, would you bring a chimpanzee into your home again? Would you recommend other people do that as well?
DAVIS: Oh, yes. No. No. It takes a particular -- this is a project that when you start, it's lifetime. It's a commitment that you stay with 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for your entire life. This is -- they bond. It's bonding. And it's a little bit more than a child who grows up and wants to start his own life. An animal kingdom stays pretty much bonded together as a family for its entire existence.
COOPER: Ladonna Davis, I can't imagine what you've been through. We appreciate you being on with us to talk about it. And we wish the best to you and you're husband as well. We'll be keeping him in our thoughts and our prayers. Thank you very much, Donna.
DAVIS: Thank you.
COOPER: And Gloria...
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COOPER: And her husband, St. James, lies in a hospital bed right now. Doctors have tried to operate on his face. Obviously, his foot is gone, as well as other body parts as well. Coming up next on 360, we're going to look at the medical angle on this story. When chimps do that much damage, how are doctors able to help Ladonna Davis and her husband? She had her thumb bitten off. We'll get some insight from 360 M.D., Sanjay Gupta.
Plus, far different story. New research on how men and women really are different in their brains, especially when it comes to sex. Part of our special series of two minds.
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DAVIS: Most of the 12 hour surgery was on his face because of the eye socket being ripped off, the cheek, the nose and a little bit of the side of the mouth. As I understand it, the eye socket was -- or the eye was put back in.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COOPER: This woman named Ladonna Davis talking about the unimaginable ordeal of her husband, St. James, who was grievously injured last week when he was attacked by two chimpanzees at a wildlife sanctuary in California. We're joined now by "360" MD, Sanjay Gupta to talk about what doctors in medical science can do in such bizarre circumstances. I mean, what can do. His face has been bitten off, his foot is gone...
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: His testicles as well. Lots of things to consider. First of all, significant injuries just from the bites alone. A chimpanzee bite, dog bites are our best experience with that. Lots of bacteria just in the mouth of the chimpanzee. So the infection is going to be a real consideration to start off with. Also, when you talk about things like the nose and the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- she said the eye socket being ripped out and sort of being pushed back in. She said, that can actually happen, Anderson, if the eye was just sort of pushed out, but the nerve wasn't damaged and the artery wasn't damaged. They could actually put the eye back as long as it wasn't infected.
COOPER: Can it still function?
GUPTA: It might be able to still function. That's going probably be a period of time to be able to tell that for sure. If there was a pull on the nerve for awhile, it's going to be hard to say. With the nose in particular, it's actually very interesting what they typically do. Let's say the nose is gone, which it sounds like in this case. A lot of times what they'll do is, they'll actually take skin from the forehead, for example, and sort of rotate that down to cover the nose. They may take a little cartilage from the opposite ear that was not attacked, and use that cartilage also in the nose. They may even take rib to reconstruct the nose as well. It's a very cosmetic area, obviously. The lips as well. Sometimes if the upper lip is really ripped up, they'll take some skin from the lower lip and try to fix that as well. COOPER: In terms of -- her attorney was saying to me off camera, that they looked around the area to see if there were any pieces, is what she said, to see if they could reattach. I mean, reattachment, I imagine, requires timeliness.
GUPTA: It requires timeliness, and this really isn't the situation where you can reattach a hand for example or even a digit. The reason being, you know, people who are in machine accidents and have clean cuts, you can sometimes reattach those. Here it is a dirty wound. The animal essentially mauled the hand and the digits off. So it's going to be very emascerated together. It's almost impossible to reconnect something like that. And you just couldn't do it because it's going to get infected and become contaminated anyway.
COOPER: And he's in intensive care right now, obviously...
GUPTA: The breathing is going to be the critical thing for him -- as she mentioned, for him in the next couple of days, really keeping him alive.
COOPER: And a long road for recovery. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thanks.
GUPTA: Thank you.
COOPER: Well, let's find out what is coming up in about 20 minutes on "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks, Anderson. We're going to be looking at a very scary drug that we believe up to 500,000 teens may be using, not to get high but to get strong. Steroids in school. They're becoming rampant. We're going to tell you tonight about some of the danger signs as a parent you should be watching out for. Dr. Sanjay Gupta will also be along to give us some other helpful hints as many parents try to navigate those terrible adolescent years. As if we didn't have enough problems with just their age, Anderson. It's the steroid problem that's...
COOPER: Yes, it's unbelievable how many kids are doing this. All right. Paula, thanks very much. That's about 20 minutes from now.
Coming up next on 360, men, women, sex and your brain. Why you like what you like and how the opposite sex really is different. Part of our special series "Of Two Minds."
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COOPER: A solemn ceremony today in Italy where an Italian secret service agent was laid to rest. Nicola Calipari received a state funeral to honor him for helping to free a journalist who was held hostage in Iraq and then using his body to shield her from U.S. gunfire outside Baghdad. U.S. officials have said the shooting was an accident. For the latest out of Iraq today, we turn to Erica Hill at Headline News.
Hey, Erica. HILL: Yes, Anderson, kind of a tough day in Iraq. At least 17 people are dead after a series of attacks against Iraqi security forces. Two high ranking police officers were gunned down by insurgents during separate attacks in Baghdad, while 30 miles north a car bomb attack struck an Iraqi police convoy, killing 10. Five students were killed by a separate car bomb blast outside an Iraqi officer's house.
A warning for you now. We're about to tell you about the most explicit testimony yet in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial. That came today when the brother of his accuser testified that he saw Jackson with his hand in his brother's pants. It was the first direct eyewitness account of alleged sexual contact between Jackson and the accuser. The boy also said Jackson appeared nude and aroused in their presence, slept in bed with them and gave them wine. Jackson appeared attentive and somewhat agitated during the testimony.
A new study shows aspirin can help healthy women avoid strokes but doesn't lower the risk of heart attacks in women under 65. And that's actually the opposite of how it affects men. Previous research was almost exclusively done on men. The results are generally good news because women proportionately actually suffer more strokes, and men more heart attacks. The findings will be published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger says he wants to ban the sale of junk food in schools across the state. He spoke out about it at his Arnold Classic Body Building Weekend. Schwarzenegger says his administration is introducing legislation this year that will replace snack foods at schools with healthier options like fruits and vegetables, he also wants milk in the vending machines -- Anderson.
COOPER: That was among the more bizarre pictures I've seen today, Erica.
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COOPER: Thank you very much, appreciate it.
HILL: Just a little something special for you.
COOPER: Yes. So tan. How do you get that tan, I didn't even know that's possible.
HILL: I think it's real.
COOPER: I think so, too -- not. Thanks, Erica.
You expect passionate debates on college campuses but rarely do they spread nationwide or even around the world. Yet that is what has happened with the battle of the sexes debate sparked by Harvard President Lawrence Summers who recently suggested women's brains are not genetically wired for math and science. The controversy got us wondering how are men and women really different?
All this week on 360 we're going to be looking at that question. "Of Two Minds," we call it, the difference between men and women. That's the series title. Tonight we're looking at sex on the brain.
CNN's Gary Tuchman shows us the differences in what we like and why we like it.
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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Four courageous graduate students. Brave because they've volunteered to let us witness...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just like you look at them as if you were watching a movie and just have your natural reaction.
TUCHMAN: They're reactions to explicit sexual images, all in the name of science, of course. Jen Pokorny is hooked up to a skin response machine that measures sweat. This is her response when looking at a non-sexual picture, almost a flat line. But when looking at an explicit picture of a couple, her lines start to move. But compare her lines to Henry Lanks (ph). He looks at a similar image and this is what happens on the computer screen.
Now, it's not revolutionary to find out men have stronger reactions to sexual images, but research here at Atlanta's Emory University with a larger group of people showing these pictures and others found that much of the reason for the differences has to do with our brains.
PROF. STEPHEN HAMANN, EMORY UNIVERSITY: We found that there are very specific parts of the brain that are more active in men than in women.
TUCHMAN: Professor Stephen Hamann's research using MRI brain scans in addition to the skin tests has shown...
HAMANN: The areas that were more active in the males were here in the amygdala on both sides, and in that central area, the hypothalamus.
TUCHMAN (on camera): And the woman?
HAMANN: Now the women you can see in that same area, the amygdala, on both sides, no activity, and just very little activity in the hypothalamus.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): Among our group, the women insist they did find some of the pictures arousing.
JEN POKORNY, EMORY UNIV. GRADUATE STUDENT: I'm surprised that there was relatively little response.
TUCHMAN: But the results in our test as well as the complete studies show the men are more likely to have a dramatic response.
(on camera): Is it enough for you just to see the picture and know nothing about what you're looking at?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Definitely.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): There are certainly sociological reasons for the differences.
(on camera): You're looking at pictures with no context at all, no social context. If there was some context and you knew more -- if you knew the people, would that make it more arousing?
POKORNY: Probably, yes, because you could look at it that they're just pictures. But, yes, if there was a story or there was some sort of context put into it, you could probably respond better.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): But this study has shown these students and many others there are biological reasons, too.
Gary Tuchman, CNN, Atlanta.
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COOPER: Let's take that research and apply it to your own love life. Joining me now is Dr. Drew Pinsky, a relationship expert and co-host of the syndicated radio program "Loveline."
Dr. Drew, good to see you.
DR. DREW PINSKY, "LOVELINE": Anderson.
COOPER: Let's talk about what's happening in the appetite centers of the brain when a man looks at sexual images versus women.
PINSKY: Right. That's the key difference. With women, they have arousal, they experience arousal, they describe arousal, but the actual appetite centers do not activate so there is no desire necessarily associated with arousal. With men, it goes visual arousal and drive. Immediately they want to do something with that material they're looking at. Women, they can appreciate it, they can look at it. I had this with my own wife one day. She said, ah, that Billy Idol, he's so hot. And I go, what are you talking about? Do you want to have sex -- no, just because I say he's hot doesn't mean I want to have sex with him. How dare you? Those things are disconnected for me. And I go, oh, there you go...
COOPER: Was this Billy Idol like mid-'80s Billy Idol or...
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PINSKY: ... the more recent Billy Idol too, so he's making a comeback. But I actually went in the scanner myself. I'm doing a program for the Discovery Health Channel, and I was aware of doctor -- there's research being done down at Emory and I sent my crew down there, and I went into the scanner (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
COOPER: So what surprised you most?
PINSKY: Well, a couple of things surprised me. One was the depth of the arousal pattern, the drive patterns that were sort of activating in my brain. There is profound...
COOPER: Now, this is a scan where you're looking at pictures?
PINSKY: They have you look at neutral pictures and arousing pictures, different kinds of arousing pictures. And it's actually -- the sexual pictures were actually picked by women to be most arousing to women. Interesting that the men still react to them most prominently.
And the thing -- other than seeing my brain light up with these powerful, powerful drives in response to some of this material, the other thing that was really interesting is they show you explicit gay erotica, too, men in provocative poses. And I sort of went through it, and I didn't think anything of it -- and I consider myself -- I just sort of have a neutral reaction to it. And yet, my scan, when I looked at my scan, it showed a bilateral threat response, which is really...
COOPER: And how do you see that in the brain?
PINSKY: Well, it's a thalamic response, a typical response that the researchers were noting in regard to most men when they looked at this material. It was interesting. Heterosexual men who looked at that material seemed to have -- some say -- and he's not broken it at all down yet to look at maybe -- do homosexual men have a similar kind of response? Is that (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We really don't know what to make of that yet.
COOPER: What is this translated to? I mean, how does this help people in their love lives at home?
PINSKY: To me, the bottom line is, look, we -- you and I differ from a female human by an entire base -- by an entire chromosome. We differ from chimpanzees by a few hundred fragments of DNA. I mean, the differences between a male human and a female human are profound, an entire chromosome different. Why are we surprised at their biological differences? So the fact is, there are these amazing biological differences. And frankly, I believe the female is probably more developed form of the human being.
Be that as it may, these differences are there. Why don't we learn to appreciate these differences and understand them, rather than pretend they're not there? So in order to have a relationship, you have got to be able to appreciate how the other person comes to the same circumstance.
COOPER: And I think a lot of men don't necessarily get that a lot of times.
PINSKY: Oh, absolutely not. I think it's actually the women that have a tougher time with it, frankly. It's like, how can he be like that? When I go out to college campuses and give talks, most of what women want to talk to me about is, what's going with the men? I read "Cosmo," I read these magazines, they tell me all I have to do is these 10 things and everything is great. I don't understand how he works. I don't understand how we can share this moment and he walks away.
Well, the reality is, there is a hormone called oxytocin, that is released in both men and women...
COOPER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) cuddle...
PINSKY: The bonding hormone or the cuddle hormone or what not, and it's released by our pituitaries. And in women, it's a profound bonding experience when that hormone floods their system. In a male, under the influence of testosterone, that hormone has very little influence. It doesn't work. So men are sort of wired in a way as to sort of not be bonded by intimate physical contact.
COOPER: It's fascinating, the differences. Dr. Drew Pinsky, thanks very much.
PINSKY: My pleasure.
COOPER: Well, coming up tomorrow night, we are going to continue our special series of "Two Minds," with the look at separating the boys from the girls in the classroom. Is single-sex education really better for your child? On Wednesday, body talk in the office. How you might be sending the wrong message to the opposite sex in meetings or at the water cooler. Thursday, the humor gap between men and women. And on Friday, blame the hormones, the male midlife crisis and male menopause.
Coming up next on 360, viewer e-mail, plus looking for an exotic vacation (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We take one option to "The Nth Degree." Before you pack your bags, you better like North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Il, because that's where you may be going. We'll tell you why ahead.
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COOPER: Time again to check some viewer e-mails. We were struck by one incredibly perceptive one by Fiona from Toronto, Canada, who writes: "I enjoyed the interview of Ari Fleischer. You won't believe this, but I had a crush on him just around the same time I fell for you, Anderson. I was visited by a strange sensation looking at two of you talking with each other without knowing you used to be romantic rivals."
Fiona, we appreciate it. Thank you very much. Ari and I have long known we're romantic rivals for your affections. We often talked about it. And frankly, during our interview, the tension was -- well, it was unbearable.
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COOPER: While it may be valid in some cases, it's often used to avoid answering questions.
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COOPER: Not a good interview. It was a very tough interview. If you've got something on your mind, send us an e-mail. Go to cnn.com/360. Click on the instant feedback link. Can't respond to them all, but we do try to read as many of them as we can.
Tonight, the exotic vacation to "The Nth Degree."
Have you seen the pyramids, watched the sunrise on a tropic isle, flown the ocean in a silver plane, seen the jungle when it's wet with rain? Do you have a bad case of been there, done that? Well, Kim Jong Il feels your pain and has a plan. Why not visit North Korea? There is even a handy new Web site to tell you how.
You'll meet in Beijing, where you'll find no one home. Then be whisked by a red airplane silhouette over a pixillated map toward Pyongyang, where you'll see what looks to be a warehouse, some very large tools, people standing around doing nothing, empty streets. After which it's back into your red jet, cut out for a flight north, where you'll take in a cabin, water, some flowers, a guy made of brass, and some sort of rude poster.
But hey, the best is yet to come. Back in Pyongyang again, after some more empty streets and scenes of lots of people dressed identically, you'll be chased by the secret police towards some kind of a compound outside of town, where at first just two, but then pretty soon a lot of soldiers will be waiting for you.
And as a parting gift, you'll meet Kim Jong Il himself, and both of North Korea's barbershop quartets.
You better book now. A trip like that to the DPRK is going to sell out PDQ.
I'm Anderson Cooper. Thanks for watching 360. Prime-time coverage continues now with "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from New York. I'm Anderson Cooper.
Here are the top stories at this hour.
In Pittsburgh, a role reversal of sorts, the president introducing the first lady today, and listened as she announced a summit to combat youth gangs and drug use.
The global airlines industry says 2004 was the safest year ever for commercial air travel. The chances of dying in an airline accident last year were only 1 in 10 million.
And the Navy is investigating whether sonar use by its submarines might have caused the beaching of more than 60 dolphins off the Florida Keys. Caretakers are asking for more volunteers to help save the dolphins.
Going to have another update on the top stories in about 15 minutes.
360 starts right now.
What really happened when crazed chimpanzees attacked? You've seen the headlines. Now hear for yourself from the woman who survived an unimaginable attack.
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LADONNA DAVIS, ATTACKED BY CHIMPANZEES: He just reached around with his head and chomped off my thumb.
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COOPER: Tonight, she tells her harrowing tale of survival, and what the two chimps did to her husband, whose life now hangs in the balance.
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DAVIS: They bit off all of his fingers and half of one hand.
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COOPER: Mayhem at the gas pump, prices on the rise, and more motorists are stealing gas. Tonight, why are so many people pumping and running?
More than two months after the tsunami, more victims are being identified. Can science help one mother's search for her lost daughter?
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ANNA-LIE KJELLANDER, ANNA KJELLANDER'S MOTHER: It's not knowing if she's dead or alive, or not knowing that she's missing.
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COOPER: And our special series, Of Two Minds, the differences between men and women. Tonight, sex on the brain, how your brain is really different from the opposite sex.
ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.
COOPER: Hey, good evening.
We begin tonight with an attack that is simply hard to imagine, an attack by chimpanzees on two humans. Tonight, we have new details of exactly what happened, and you will hear from a woman whose thumb was bitten off, whose husband at this very moment lies in a hospital with unimaginable injuries.
Ladonna Davis and her husband were visiting a chimp they owned named Moe, a chimp they raised for 30 years. And suddenly, they were attacked, unprovoked, caught completely by surprise. You'll hear from Ladonna in a moment.
But first, CNN's Heidi Collins takes us beyond the headlines with a frantic 911 call moments after the attack.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fire department, what is the address of your emergency?
MARK CARRUTHERS: Yes, ma'am, I need an ambulance here immediately, the Animal Haven Chimpanzee Sanctuary.
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HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): You could hear the terror in the voice of the caller, and a chimpanzee screeching in the background. Something awful had happened at the Animal Haven ranch.
St. James Davis was visiting the sanctuary with his wife, Ladonna, throwing a birthday party for their pet chimp, Moe, when they were suddenly viciously attacked by two other chimps.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A chimpanzee?
CARRUTHERS: A man's been attacked by two chimpanzees. He is very critical.
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COLLINS: The panicked voice on the telephone belongs to Mark Carruthers, son-in-law of the sanctuary's owners, Ralph and Virginia Brauer (ph). He witnessed the attack and may have saved St. James Davis's life.
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CARRUTHERS: Listen, there are still two chimpanzees loose. They are not dangerous.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: The two that did attack him are down, I have just shot them.
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COLLINS: As Davis lay bleeding on the ground, a breathless Carruthers tries to describe the magnitude of the mauled man's injuries to the 911 operator.
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CARRUTHERS: Tell me his injuries and repeat them. They need to know. They tore out his eye.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They tore out his eye?
CARRUTHERS: What's that? Left hand. Left foot.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Left Foot.
CARRUTHERS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. All right, I'm going to give you some instructions. I'm going to tell you how to help him. I need you to relay this for me, OK, Mark?
CARRUTHERS: OK.
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COOPER: And he does, shouting instructions at Davis's wife, who's trying desperately to keep her husband alive.
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CARRUTHERS: Ladonna, I want you to take these towels, apply pressure, as even pressure as you can to all of those wounds.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.
CARRUTHERS: And leave them (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't lift them up.
CARRUTHERS: And put them on all of the wounds that you can, and apply pressure, and hold them there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, now, are we getting some of that bleeding controlled?
CARRUTHERS: Ladonna, put the pressure on the wounds, stay there with him. You need to stay there with him and apply pressure to those wounds.
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COLLINS: And Ladonna Davis did just that.
Shortly after St. James Davis was rushed to the hospital. His family has requested confidentiality concerning his well-being, as you might imagine, after going through something like this.
We do understand, though, Anderson, that he had surgery that night, the same night of the attack, which would have been Thursday, and he is now in intensive care tonight.
COOPER: Yes, unbelievable injuries he sustained. Heidi Collins, thanks very much.
Earlier I spoke with Ladonna Davis about this unbelievable attack.
LADONNA DAVIS, ATTACKED BY CHIMPANZEES: I'm holding my own. It hurts a little bit, but I'm going to be fine.
COOPER: Were they able to...
DAVIS: Thank you.
COOPER: ... to reattach your finger?
DAVIS: No. The thumb is severed all the way down.
COOPER: And your husband, St. James, how is he doing?
DAVIS: Right now, I've been have advised that it's kind of a minute-by-minute situation, and mainly because they have to keep his breathing constant in order for him to live.
COOPER: The surgery that they've done on him, do you know what part are they operating? I mean, are they trying to do something with his face? Or I know his foot was also, I think, ripped off, and his testicles as well.
DAVIS: The -- most of the 12-hour surgery was on his face, because of the eye socket being ripped off, the cheek, the nose, and a little bit of the side of the mouth. As I understand it, the eye socket was -- or the eye was put back in, and they did -- they reattached some of the skin to the lower area. He still has no nose, just two little tubes, but a trach. And the next surgery will hopefully cover his foot.
COOPER: I'm so sorry for what you've both been through. You had gone to this place because your chimpanzee, Moe, who is living there -- it was, I guess, Moe's birthday. You went there with a cake. What happened exactly?
DAVIS: We had taken a birthday cake up, which we give to all of the animals on the compound, drinks and paper plates and cups and napkins. And we'd set up a little table just two feet from Moe. And St. James was pouring out the chocolate milk. And Moe had already had a cup, and was clapping his hands for another one.
So St. James bent down to fill his cup up and finish his, and I had cut two pieces of cake. And I turned to the facility, and gave them their cake. I only had to make a step. And I turned back around to cut another piece of cake. Then the lady was going to take the cake to the rest of the compound for all the other animals.
And when I turned, my left eye caught a movement. And I looked up. And I saw two chimps. And when we made eye contact, they just took off.
COOPER: And they took off running to her and to her husband. You're going to hear more of my interview with Ladonna Davis a little bit later on in this hour of 360.
Coming up next, however, gas and go. Fuel prices spiking at the pump, and more people taking off without paying. They're just driving off, not realizing they've been caught on videotape. We'll show you the tapes ahead.
Plus, swept away from her father's arms, a little girl lost, a child of the tsunami. Tonight, some answers. What really happened to little Anna?
Also ahead tonight, the birds and the bees and your brain, why men and women think differently about sex. The answer is as clear as the brain in your head.
All that ahead. First, your picks, the most popular stories on CNN.com right now.
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COOPER: Well, if you've been to the pump lately, you already know, just in time for the spring thaw, just as you're getting ready to plan a summer vacation, gas prices are hitting new highs, in some places up 30 cents since the start of the year. What we've also noticed, however, is that as the cost of gas rises, there is also a rise in people trying to avoid that cost. They're filling up their tanks, and they're just taking off.
Here's CNN's Dan Lothian.
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DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's an old crime, pumped to new levels, hitting the Tiger Mart in Salisbury, Maryland, the B.P. Amoco station in Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and this Mobil station in Brookline, Massachusetts.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A customer took off with $36 of gasoline. Once the light became green, flew out of here like you wouldn't believe.
LOTHIAN: Soaring gas prices that have frustrated some drivers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been upset about it.
LOTHIAN: And spawned this Boycott Gas Web site by this angry real estate broker.
JOHN TYLER, BOYCOTTGASOLINE.COM: This one just did it. They're into my wallet. I didn't like it.
LOTHIAN: Have been driving up so-called gas-and-dash incidents, costing some retailers as much as $800 in losses a month.
JEFF LENARD, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CONVENIENCE STORES: It's gone from a teen, who might be doing it for the thrill as much as the $5 or $10 stolen, to all demographics, including late-model SUVs pulling out with upwards of $50 or even $60 worth of gas.
LOTHIAN: In surveillance tape obtained by CNN from the Maryland mart, a driver pulls in, fills up, replaces the gas cap, while appearing to look around, makes an odd maneuver, then, according to management, drives off without paying a dime.
The same, they allege, for this woman, who casually cleans her windshield before taking off. And one more flies an American flag while allegedly pumping and running.
(on camera): If this is such a big problem, then why don't all retailers require everyone to prepay? Experts say that's because, given the options, some customers will go to a station that allows them to pump first and pay later.
(voice-over): And there's the issue of profits.
LENARD: They're also are less likely to go inside the store and buy other items, where margins are much healthier.
LOTHIAN: Surveillance cameras, like this one in Wisconsin, help retailers track the license plate numbers of offenders. And in some 25 states, punishment could include the temporary loss of a driver's license.
In Brookline, Elias Audi (ph) hopes to install security cameras at his station, so the next time someone drives off with his gas, he'll have the evidence on tape.
Dan Lothian, CNN, Boston.
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COOPER: Unbelievable, a guy driving around with an American flag on his car, and takes off.
360 next, a child swept from her father's arms during the tsunami. We brought you her story first. Tonight, we go beyond the headlines for an update. What really happened to little Anna?
Also tonight, chimpanzees attack, and mangle a man in front of his wife. They bit off his face, his foot. They didn't stop there. Tonight, she reveals the horror of the attack.
And a little later, men, women, sex, and your brain. What turns you on may all be found in your head. Part of our weeklong special series. We're covering all the angles.
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COOPER: Welcome back to 360.
Some fascinating testimony today in the Michael Jackson trial, when the prosecution put the brother of the alleged victim on the stand.
Here with details and the rest of the top stories at this hour is Erica Hill from "HEADLINE NEWS." Hey, Erica.
ERICA HILL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Anderson.
Yes, fascinating, and what you might call actually fairly explicit, so just a warning to everybody there about this testimony we heard in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial today.
The younger brother of Jackson's accuser took the stand and said the singer showed them sexually explicit Web sites and gave them wine, which he allegedly called Jesus juice. The boy said Jackson warned the kids, quote, "Not to tell your parents what we did." Jackson has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
Martha Stewart received a rousing welcome today when she visited the offices of her media company. She told employees she thought of them every day while she was in prison, and that they are her heroes. Stewart was not yet wearing the electronic ankle bracelet she'll be required to wear during her five month home detention. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) at that time at her estate in Bedford, New York, but will, of course, be able to leave her home to go to work for 48 hours each week. Ed McMahon is in the hospital after falling at his home. He has a concussion and a gash on the head, which had to stitched up. But doctors say the former "Tonight" show co-host should be able to go home in a few days.
And if you're in the market for a new car, small cars are taking a bit of a hit from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. In a recent roundup of side-impact crash tests, the Institute found only the Toyota Corolla and the Chevrolet Cobalt performed well enough to earn an acceptable rating, and that being attributed too to their side airbags. Cars earning poor ratings include the Ford Focus, Mazda 3, Mitsubishi Lancer, Saturn Ion, and Volkswagen's new Beetle.
And that's going to do it for us from here, Anderson. Back to you.
COOPER: All right, Erica, thanks. Next time, would you ask the "HEADLINE NEWS" band to turn it down just a little bit?
HILL: I'll work on that. But, you know, they're very proud of their, you know, of their skills, so...
COOPER: I know. Well, these kids with their music, the -- with the rock and roll...
HILL: It's crazy, the kids these days.
COOPER: ... they love it. Erica, thanks.
Tonight, the search for a Chicago man missing since last year's tsunami has ended. The remains of Ben Abels were found this weekend in Thailand. He was 33 years old, he was on vacation when the waves hit. A private burial is planned for later this week.
This has been one of the most-viewed stories on CNN.com all day. Every day, 360's Rudi Bakhtiar looks into the Web stores to bring an angle you won't see anywhere else. Rudi, what did you find today?
RUDI BAKHTIAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson, another tsunami survivor has gone back to the ruins on a mission no mother should ever have to take.
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BAKHTIAR (voice-over): It has been more than two months since the tsunami washed away virtually everything in its path. Today, the number of people dead or missing is approaching 300,000.
Among the victims, 4-year-old Anna Kjellander from Sweden. She and her family were on Phi Phi Island in Thailand when the wave hit.
Her parents and 7-year-old brother survived the tsunami. Just days after the disaster, Anna's mother, Anna-Lie Kjellander, spoke to Anderson from a hospital in Bangkok about her little girl.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANNA-LIE KJELLANDER, ANNA KJELLANDER'S MOTHER: I would like to know either if she is alive, or if someone on Phi Phi, after the disaster, have seen some child lying on the ground looking like that. It's not knowing if she's dead or alive, or not knowing that she's missing.
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BAKHTIAR: Today, Anna-Lie is in Thailand, where she believes she may have found the body of her daughter. We talked to Anna-Lie's sister this afternoon. She tells us that Anna-Lie identified Anna in a photograph, but has to wait until Thai authorities can make a positive identification through DNA.
Her sister also told us that Anna's brother, Martin, is doing OK, but still has nightmares about what happened on that December day.
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BAKHTIAR: And I'm sure, Anderson, we haven't heard the last of these sad stories coming out of that area.
COOPER: Yes, the last -- when I had talked to her last, they had -- were just going back to Sweden, and the little boy, Martin, he wasn't speaking at all. He was so traumatized, he couldn't speak. So at least he's speaking a little bit.
There is some good news.
BAKHTIAR: Still having nightmares.
COOPER: Yes. There is some good news, though, about the number of orphans. People had thought the numbers were going to be huge, especially in Indonesia.
BAKHTIAR: Yes, you might remember the prime minister of Indonesia just last month had said that they're going to need 50,000 beds for the -- what they were calling orphans that they were going to find. And they've only found, in the Aceh Province, 116, far lower than they were predicting in that area or any other area.
And they're really saying that there's a sort of sad logic to this anomaly. They're saying that a lot of kids under the age of 5 just didn't make it.
COOPER: Couldn't run fast enough.
BAKHTIAR: Couldn't get out of it.
COOPER: All right. Rudi Bakhtiar, thanks very much.
And for former president George Bush, he's talking about the tsunami fund-raising mission he took with another ex-commander in chief. Here's a quick news note for you. Bush and Bill Clinton just wrapped up their tour of the countries devastated by the wave. Clinton said some $7 billion in donations have been pledged. And in a light-hearted revelation, Bush said that one night, Clinton allowed him to sleep in the only bed on the government's plane. Bush mentioned that the next morning, he walked into the other room and saw Clinton sound asleep on the plane's floor.
What really happened when crazed chimpanzees attacked? You've seen the headlines, now hear for yourself from the woman who survived an unimaginable attack.
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DAVIS: He just reached around with his head and chomped off my thumb.
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COOPER: Tonight, she tells her harrowing tale of survival, and what the two chimps did to her husband, whose life now hangs in the balance.
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DAVIS: They bit off all of his fingers and half of one hand.
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COOPER: And our special series, Of Two Minds, the differences between men and women. Tonight, sex on the brain, how your brain is really different from the opposite sex.
360 continues.
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COOPER: Earlier this hour, we heard firsthand what chimps like these could do if they turn violent. And they did, just last Thursday, at an animal sanctuary near Bakersfield, California.
Ladonna Davis and her husband, St. James, were attacked by two chimps. St. James was mauled. Tonight, he clings to life in a hospital.
In just a moment, we're going to continue my interview with Ladonna Davis, who describes what it was like when the chimps attacked.
But first, more from the 911 call made just moments after the attack.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fire department, what is the address of your emergency?
CARRUTHERS: Yes, ma'am, I need an ambulance here immediately, the Animal Haven Chimpanzee Sanctuary.
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CARRUTHERS: ... attacked by two chimpanzees. He is very critical.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I'm going to get some information and we are going to get you help right out there.
CARRUTHERS: He has major...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE) injury. We have two...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are they loose?
CARRUTHERS: Excuse me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are the animals loose?
CARRUTHERS: There are...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are the animals...
CARRUTHERS: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- listen, yes, yes, listen. There' are still two chimpanzees loose. They are not dangerous.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I...
CARRUTHERS: The two that did attack him are down, I have just shot them.
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CARRUTHERS: One individual was very tore up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: His wife is also going to be a patient.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
CARRUTHERS: She lost her thumb.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is there any serious bleeding?
CARRUTHERS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, OK. Are they completely awake?
CARRUTHERS: I don't know, I'm not out there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, OK, sir. Now, they're getting started while we're on the phone. What part of the body was bitten?
CARRUTHERS: Face, back. His face is tore up really bad. His back is tore up. Leg, from what I saw. They were just attacking him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, when did this happen, Mark?
CARRUTHERS: This just happened.
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COOPER: One chimpanzee bit off his face, another took his foot, as well as his testicles.
Here's more from my interview with victim Ladonna Davis, who was accompanied by her attorney, Gloria Allred.
Those two chimps, were they in a cage at that point, or were they already loose?
DAVIS: They were loose. I believe four chimps got out, on a compound that's way lower than us. And four had gotten out, two females, I guess, that had run away. And then these two males must have come around from behind the building, so nobody saw them until they came over to our area.
And I tell you, when they get that run, there is not much time for decision making.
COOPER: So you made, you looked into their eyes, you made eye contact with them, and you knew there was going to be trouble.
DAVIS: I knew. Yes. It was not -- it was just -- you could -- yes. The signals were all there.
COOPER: Were they screaming? Were they crying, the chimps?
DAVIS: No, they weren't really making much of any sound. The judgment was already made, I think, of what he was going to do. And I don't know why. There are several theories that I kind of have. But, you know, nobody I don't think will ever know why. This was just something that happened. I don't -- It's hard to explain.
COOPER: So they charged towards you?
DAVIS: Yes. And when the male got to me, I was right in front of my husband. So I -- my back was to him. So he pushed at me, and I went around my husband's neck as I'm going down, and he just reached around with his head and chopped off my thumb. And I guess my husband realized that this was not going to be good. So as we're falling, he pushed me way back. I actually kind of tumbled a little bit. And they just physically went after him. One was at the head area and the other one was at the foot area.
COOPER: So they're both working really as a pair?
DAVIS: It was the big male that actually did the damage to me, that was the one that was going to be the aggressive one. And I guess he knew that the facial area was the contact area. Plus, they bit off all of his fingers and half of one hand.
COOPER: And were you -- did you witness all of this?
DAVIS: I couldn't see what they did to his face, but I knew he was trying to realize with them, and he was trying to make them understand, but it was so aggressive and so -- it was -- there was nothing you could do. Nothing you could do. It was awful. I can't open that door because if I open that door, it's horrendous. It's horrendous.
COOPER: Did you see Moe, Ladonna, during this point? I mean, Moe was just sort of sitting there?
DAVIS: Yes. One of the times -- with all this, I rolled over. I got -- I looked -- I brought my head up to Moe. And him and I made eye contact. And I could tell he -- he didn't understand this at all. I mean, he -- it was -- I don't think any of us have ever experienced -- I don't think he even thought this was capable.
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY: It must have been really disturbing to Moe, too, because Mr. Davis is the only parent that he's ever known other than Mrs. Davis. These have been his human parents shortly after birth, of course. He was orphaned, Moe, the chimp. His mother was killed and Mr. Davis brought him from Africa to the United States. So, they raised him in their home for over 30 years. He would sit at the breakfast table and have breakfast with them, wash dishes.
COOPER: Ladonna, does it change -- would you do it again? I mean, would you bring a chimpanzee into your home again? Would you recommend other people do that as well?
DAVIS: Oh, yes. No. No. It takes a particular -- this is a project that when you start, it's lifetime. It's a commitment that you stay with 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for your entire life. This is -- they bond. It's bonding. And it's a little bit more than a child who grows up and wants to start his own life. An animal kingdom stays pretty much bonded together as a family for its entire existence.
COOPER: Ladonna Davis, I can't imagine what you've been through. We appreciate you being on with us to talk about it. And we wish the best to you and you're husband as well. We'll be keeping him in our thoughts and our prayers. Thank you very much, Donna.
DAVIS: Thank you.
COOPER: And Gloria...
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COOPER: And her husband, St. James, lies in a hospital bed right now. Doctors have tried to operate on his face. Obviously, his foot is gone, as well as other body parts as well. Coming up next on 360, we're going to look at the medical angle on this story. When chimps do that much damage, how are doctors able to help Ladonna Davis and her husband? She had her thumb bitten off. We'll get some insight from 360 M.D., Sanjay Gupta.
Plus, far different story. New research on how men and women really are different in their brains, especially when it comes to sex. Part of our special series of two minds.
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DAVIS: Most of the 12 hour surgery was on his face because of the eye socket being ripped off, the cheek, the nose and a little bit of the side of the mouth. As I understand it, the eye socket was -- or the eye was put back in.
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COOPER: This woman named Ladonna Davis talking about the unimaginable ordeal of her husband, St. James, who was grievously injured last week when he was attacked by two chimpanzees at a wildlife sanctuary in California. We're joined now by "360" MD, Sanjay Gupta to talk about what doctors in medical science can do in such bizarre circumstances. I mean, what can do. His face has been bitten off, his foot is gone...
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: His testicles as well. Lots of things to consider. First of all, significant injuries just from the bites alone. A chimpanzee bite, dog bites are our best experience with that. Lots of bacteria just in the mouth of the chimpanzee. So the infection is going to be a real consideration to start off with. Also, when you talk about things like the nose and the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- she said the eye socket being ripped out and sort of being pushed back in. She said, that can actually happen, Anderson, if the eye was just sort of pushed out, but the nerve wasn't damaged and the artery wasn't damaged. They could actually put the eye back as long as it wasn't infected.
COOPER: Can it still function?
GUPTA: It might be able to still function. That's going probably be a period of time to be able to tell that for sure. If there was a pull on the nerve for awhile, it's going to be hard to say. With the nose in particular, it's actually very interesting what they typically do. Let's say the nose is gone, which it sounds like in this case. A lot of times what they'll do is, they'll actually take skin from the forehead, for example, and sort of rotate that down to cover the nose. They may take a little cartilage from the opposite ear that was not attacked, and use that cartilage also in the nose. They may even take rib to reconstruct the nose as well. It's a very cosmetic area, obviously. The lips as well. Sometimes if the upper lip is really ripped up, they'll take some skin from the lower lip and try to fix that as well. COOPER: In terms of -- her attorney was saying to me off camera, that they looked around the area to see if there were any pieces, is what she said, to see if they could reattach. I mean, reattachment, I imagine, requires timeliness.
GUPTA: It requires timeliness, and this really isn't the situation where you can reattach a hand for example or even a digit. The reason being, you know, people who are in machine accidents and have clean cuts, you can sometimes reattach those. Here it is a dirty wound. The animal essentially mauled the hand and the digits off. So it's going to be very emascerated together. It's almost impossible to reconnect something like that. And you just couldn't do it because it's going to get infected and become contaminated anyway.
COOPER: And he's in intensive care right now, obviously...
GUPTA: The breathing is going to be the critical thing for him -- as she mentioned, for him in the next couple of days, really keeping him alive.
COOPER: And a long road for recovery. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thanks.
GUPTA: Thank you.
COOPER: Well, let's find out what is coming up in about 20 minutes on "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks, Anderson. We're going to be looking at a very scary drug that we believe up to 500,000 teens may be using, not to get high but to get strong. Steroids in school. They're becoming rampant. We're going to tell you tonight about some of the danger signs as a parent you should be watching out for. Dr. Sanjay Gupta will also be along to give us some other helpful hints as many parents try to navigate those terrible adolescent years. As if we didn't have enough problems with just their age, Anderson. It's the steroid problem that's...
COOPER: Yes, it's unbelievable how many kids are doing this. All right. Paula, thanks very much. That's about 20 minutes from now.
Coming up next on 360, men, women, sex and your brain. Why you like what you like and how the opposite sex really is different. Part of our special series "Of Two Minds."
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COOPER: A solemn ceremony today in Italy where an Italian secret service agent was laid to rest. Nicola Calipari received a state funeral to honor him for helping to free a journalist who was held hostage in Iraq and then using his body to shield her from U.S. gunfire outside Baghdad. U.S. officials have said the shooting was an accident. For the latest out of Iraq today, we turn to Erica Hill at Headline News.
Hey, Erica. HILL: Yes, Anderson, kind of a tough day in Iraq. At least 17 people are dead after a series of attacks against Iraqi security forces. Two high ranking police officers were gunned down by insurgents during separate attacks in Baghdad, while 30 miles north a car bomb attack struck an Iraqi police convoy, killing 10. Five students were killed by a separate car bomb blast outside an Iraqi officer's house.
A warning for you now. We're about to tell you about the most explicit testimony yet in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial. That came today when the brother of his accuser testified that he saw Jackson with his hand in his brother's pants. It was the first direct eyewitness account of alleged sexual contact between Jackson and the accuser. The boy also said Jackson appeared nude and aroused in their presence, slept in bed with them and gave them wine. Jackson appeared attentive and somewhat agitated during the testimony.
A new study shows aspirin can help healthy women avoid strokes but doesn't lower the risk of heart attacks in women under 65. And that's actually the opposite of how it affects men. Previous research was almost exclusively done on men. The results are generally good news because women proportionately actually suffer more strokes, and men more heart attacks. The findings will be published in the New England Journal of Medicine.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger says he wants to ban the sale of junk food in schools across the state. He spoke out about it at his Arnold Classic Body Building Weekend. Schwarzenegger says his administration is introducing legislation this year that will replace snack foods at schools with healthier options like fruits and vegetables, he also wants milk in the vending machines -- Anderson.
COOPER: That was among the more bizarre pictures I've seen today, Erica.
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COOPER: Thank you very much, appreciate it.
HILL: Just a little something special for you.
COOPER: Yes. So tan. How do you get that tan, I didn't even know that's possible.
HILL: I think it's real.
COOPER: I think so, too -- not. Thanks, Erica.
You expect passionate debates on college campuses but rarely do they spread nationwide or even around the world. Yet that is what has happened with the battle of the sexes debate sparked by Harvard President Lawrence Summers who recently suggested women's brains are not genetically wired for math and science. The controversy got us wondering how are men and women really different?
All this week on 360 we're going to be looking at that question. "Of Two Minds," we call it, the difference between men and women. That's the series title. Tonight we're looking at sex on the brain.
CNN's Gary Tuchman shows us the differences in what we like and why we like it.
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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Four courageous graduate students. Brave because they've volunteered to let us witness...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just like you look at them as if you were watching a movie and just have your natural reaction.
TUCHMAN: They're reactions to explicit sexual images, all in the name of science, of course. Jen Pokorny is hooked up to a skin response machine that measures sweat. This is her response when looking at a non-sexual picture, almost a flat line. But when looking at an explicit picture of a couple, her lines start to move. But compare her lines to Henry Lanks (ph). He looks at a similar image and this is what happens on the computer screen.
Now, it's not revolutionary to find out men have stronger reactions to sexual images, but research here at Atlanta's Emory University with a larger group of people showing these pictures and others found that much of the reason for the differences has to do with our brains.
PROF. STEPHEN HAMANN, EMORY UNIVERSITY: We found that there are very specific parts of the brain that are more active in men than in women.
TUCHMAN: Professor Stephen Hamann's research using MRI brain scans in addition to the skin tests has shown...
HAMANN: The areas that were more active in the males were here in the amygdala on both sides, and in that central area, the hypothalamus.
TUCHMAN (on camera): And the woman?
HAMANN: Now the women you can see in that same area, the amygdala, on both sides, no activity, and just very little activity in the hypothalamus.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): Among our group, the women insist they did find some of the pictures arousing.
JEN POKORNY, EMORY UNIV. GRADUATE STUDENT: I'm surprised that there was relatively little response.
TUCHMAN: But the results in our test as well as the complete studies show the men are more likely to have a dramatic response.
(on camera): Is it enough for you just to see the picture and know nothing about what you're looking at?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Definitely.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): There are certainly sociological reasons for the differences.
(on camera): You're looking at pictures with no context at all, no social context. If there was some context and you knew more -- if you knew the people, would that make it more arousing?
POKORNY: Probably, yes, because you could look at it that they're just pictures. But, yes, if there was a story or there was some sort of context put into it, you could probably respond better.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): But this study has shown these students and many others there are biological reasons, too.
Gary Tuchman, CNN, Atlanta.
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COOPER: Let's take that research and apply it to your own love life. Joining me now is Dr. Drew Pinsky, a relationship expert and co-host of the syndicated radio program "Loveline."
Dr. Drew, good to see you.
DR. DREW PINSKY, "LOVELINE": Anderson.
COOPER: Let's talk about what's happening in the appetite centers of the brain when a man looks at sexual images versus women.
PINSKY: Right. That's the key difference. With women, they have arousal, they experience arousal, they describe arousal, but the actual appetite centers do not activate so there is no desire necessarily associated with arousal. With men, it goes visual arousal and drive. Immediately they want to do something with that material they're looking at. Women, they can appreciate it, they can look at it. I had this with my own wife one day. She said, ah, that Billy Idol, he's so hot. And I go, what are you talking about? Do you want to have sex -- no, just because I say he's hot doesn't mean I want to have sex with him. How dare you? Those things are disconnected for me. And I go, oh, there you go...
COOPER: Was this Billy Idol like mid-'80s Billy Idol or...
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PINSKY: ... the more recent Billy Idol too, so he's making a comeback. But I actually went in the scanner myself. I'm doing a program for the Discovery Health Channel, and I was aware of doctor -- there's research being done down at Emory and I sent my crew down there, and I went into the scanner (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
COOPER: So what surprised you most?
PINSKY: Well, a couple of things surprised me. One was the depth of the arousal pattern, the drive patterns that were sort of activating in my brain. There is profound...
COOPER: Now, this is a scan where you're looking at pictures?
PINSKY: They have you look at neutral pictures and arousing pictures, different kinds of arousing pictures. And it's actually -- the sexual pictures were actually picked by women to be most arousing to women. Interesting that the men still react to them most prominently.
And the thing -- other than seeing my brain light up with these powerful, powerful drives in response to some of this material, the other thing that was really interesting is they show you explicit gay erotica, too, men in provocative poses. And I sort of went through it, and I didn't think anything of it -- and I consider myself -- I just sort of have a neutral reaction to it. And yet, my scan, when I looked at my scan, it showed a bilateral threat response, which is really...
COOPER: And how do you see that in the brain?
PINSKY: Well, it's a thalamic response, a typical response that the researchers were noting in regard to most men when they looked at this material. It was interesting. Heterosexual men who looked at that material seemed to have -- some say -- and he's not broken it at all down yet to look at maybe -- do homosexual men have a similar kind of response? Is that (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We really don't know what to make of that yet.
COOPER: What is this translated to? I mean, how does this help people in their love lives at home?
PINSKY: To me, the bottom line is, look, we -- you and I differ from a female human by an entire base -- by an entire chromosome. We differ from chimpanzees by a few hundred fragments of DNA. I mean, the differences between a male human and a female human are profound, an entire chromosome different. Why are we surprised at their biological differences? So the fact is, there are these amazing biological differences. And frankly, I believe the female is probably more developed form of the human being.
Be that as it may, these differences are there. Why don't we learn to appreciate these differences and understand them, rather than pretend they're not there? So in order to have a relationship, you have got to be able to appreciate how the other person comes to the same circumstance.
COOPER: And I think a lot of men don't necessarily get that a lot of times.
PINSKY: Oh, absolutely not. I think it's actually the women that have a tougher time with it, frankly. It's like, how can he be like that? When I go out to college campuses and give talks, most of what women want to talk to me about is, what's going with the men? I read "Cosmo," I read these magazines, they tell me all I have to do is these 10 things and everything is great. I don't understand how he works. I don't understand how we can share this moment and he walks away.
Well, the reality is, there is a hormone called oxytocin, that is released in both men and women...
COOPER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) cuddle...
PINSKY: The bonding hormone or the cuddle hormone or what not, and it's released by our pituitaries. And in women, it's a profound bonding experience when that hormone floods their system. In a male, under the influence of testosterone, that hormone has very little influence. It doesn't work. So men are sort of wired in a way as to sort of not be bonded by intimate physical contact.
COOPER: It's fascinating, the differences. Dr. Drew Pinsky, thanks very much.
PINSKY: My pleasure.
COOPER: Well, coming up tomorrow night, we are going to continue our special series of "Two Minds," with the look at separating the boys from the girls in the classroom. Is single-sex education really better for your child? On Wednesday, body talk in the office. How you might be sending the wrong message to the opposite sex in meetings or at the water cooler. Thursday, the humor gap between men and women. And on Friday, blame the hormones, the male midlife crisis and male menopause.
Coming up next on 360, viewer e-mail, plus looking for an exotic vacation (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We take one option to "The Nth Degree." Before you pack your bags, you better like North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Il, because that's where you may be going. We'll tell you why ahead.
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COOPER: Time again to check some viewer e-mails. We were struck by one incredibly perceptive one by Fiona from Toronto, Canada, who writes: "I enjoyed the interview of Ari Fleischer. You won't believe this, but I had a crush on him just around the same time I fell for you, Anderson. I was visited by a strange sensation looking at two of you talking with each other without knowing you used to be romantic rivals."
Fiona, we appreciate it. Thank you very much. Ari and I have long known we're romantic rivals for your affections. We often talked about it. And frankly, during our interview, the tension was -- well, it was unbearable.
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COOPER: While it may be valid in some cases, it's often used to avoid answering questions.
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COOPER: Not a good interview. It was a very tough interview. If you've got something on your mind, send us an e-mail. Go to cnn.com/360. Click on the instant feedback link. Can't respond to them all, but we do try to read as many of them as we can.
Tonight, the exotic vacation to "The Nth Degree."
Have you seen the pyramids, watched the sunrise on a tropic isle, flown the ocean in a silver plane, seen the jungle when it's wet with rain? Do you have a bad case of been there, done that? Well, Kim Jong Il feels your pain and has a plan. Why not visit North Korea? There is even a handy new Web site to tell you how.
You'll meet in Beijing, where you'll find no one home. Then be whisked by a red airplane silhouette over a pixillated map toward Pyongyang, where you'll see what looks to be a warehouse, some very large tools, people standing around doing nothing, empty streets. After which it's back into your red jet, cut out for a flight north, where you'll take in a cabin, water, some flowers, a guy made of brass, and some sort of rude poster.
But hey, the best is yet to come. Back in Pyongyang again, after some more empty streets and scenes of lots of people dressed identically, you'll be chased by the secret police towards some kind of a compound outside of town, where at first just two, but then pretty soon a lot of soldiers will be waiting for you.
And as a parting gift, you'll meet Kim Jong Il himself, and both of North Korea's barbershop quartets.
You better book now. A trip like that to the DPRK is going to sell out PDQ.
I'm Anderson Cooper. Thanks for watching 360. Prime-time coverage continues now with "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
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