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ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Street Crime by Gangs Up 25 Percent. Surrogate Mother Gives Birth to Quintuplets.
Aired April 15, 2005 - 19:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, everyone.
Shocking reality -- in the last quarter century the Justice Department says 70 percent of all of the murders in our big cities have been gang related. Think about it -- 70 percent.
Now, we've been told that crime is dropping, and it is, but in the last five years, gang killings have gone up by 25 percent. It's gotten so bad the FBI has pretty much decided it make gang violence its No. 1 priority not foreign terrorists, gang violence.
We spent several months in one of the most gang infested communities in America hanging out with cops and gangsters and their victims. The woman you are about to meet thought she could save her kids from getting involved in gangs. She was dead wrong.
SOLEDAD BROCK, MOTHER: Take care of my boys for me.
COOPER (voice-over): When Soledad Brock visits the cemetery, she grieves for two sons. In death, Angel and Ronny are side by side. In life, they looked almost like twins, but they followed different paths. Angel joined a gang, Ronny joined the Marines. In the end, it didn't matter.
BROCK: I ask you God to give me the strength, the courage and the wisdom to keep on going.
COOPER: Tragic stories of gang violence are common in this community. This is Hollenbeck, a police district just east of downtown Los Angeles. Nearly a third of the residents live in poverty, unemployment is twice national rate.
(on camera): Police say Hollenbeck has the highest concentration of gangs in all of Los Angeles. They count 34 gangs here, with some 6,800 members and associates. You go to any street, any corner in Hollenbeck, and you'll find it's claimed by a gang.
BROCK: I love you, guys.
COOPER (voice-over): Soledad Brock did her best to keep her sons out of the gangs involved with sports. She was only partially successful.
Angel joined State Street.
BROCK: You hear people getting shot, people getting killed. And I didn't want that for my boys.
COOPER: Angel also wanted something better for his younger brother. He urged Ronny to join the Marines. And after September 11, Ronny wanted to help in the war on terror.
BROCK: I honestly didn't want him to go. I didn't want my son killed.
COOPER: Before being sent overseas, Ronny came home for a visit. Late one night, he was approached on the sidewalk in front of his house. His mother heard the conversation through an open window.
BROCK: You could hear a lot of mumbling. Like, when it's more than one person. And the only thing I heard is, I heard somebody's voice saying, where you from?
JAKE DUGGER, LAPD, HOLLENBECK: Where you from? Meaning, what gang are from you. What neighborhood are you from, and really what he's wanting to know is, why are you here?
BROCK: And they asked him. And he told them, nowhere, fool. And when he told him that my heart, it was like, I thought they were going to beat him up.
COOPER: Instead, there were gunshots.
BROCK: He was just all full of blood. From everywhere, he got shot twice in the head, four times in the back, and they shot his hand off.
COOPER: Ronny was 19, buried with military honors.
Eight months later, his brother Angel was on the front porch, and apparently surprised by rival gang members.
BROCK: It sounded like a war zone out there for like 20 minutes.
COOPER: According to the autopsy report, more than 70 rounds were fired. One of them to Angel's head.
BROCK: I didn't know what to do. I was just holding him and telling God, you know -- as a mother, I was telling God, if he's hurting a lot, if he's, you know, I don't want him to hurt and stuff. And I prayed to God to take him.
COOPER: Both sons lost to gangs, one who joined, one who tried to leave. It's part of life in Hollenbeck.
AARON SKIVER, LAPD HOLLENBECK: They have a better chance of encountering act of terrorism from a street gang than they ever will from anything in the Middle East.
COOPER: Police in Hollenbeck can't solve many of the gang crimes, because witnesses are often afraid to come forward. Pay back for talking to police can be a shot in the back of the head.
DUGGER: Gang is their family. If you mess with one of their member, the whole family's going to come after you.
COOPER: Last year, Los Angeles doubled the reward for information on gang murders. $25,000 wasn't worth the risk.
Soledad Brock considered moving away from Hollenbeck, a way to escape the horror of her son's deaths. In the end, she couldn't pick up and run.
BROCK: I feel like as a mother, you always waiting for them to come back. And I felt at that time, that if I moved, they weren't going to find me.
COOPER: So she stays in the house where her sons were born, grew up and died. And remembers the hopes she had in Hollenbeck.
COOPER: And are there many stories like that in Hollenbeck. Coming up next on 360, you've met the victims, now meet the gangsters. Find out what really makes them tick. A young man who has been shot, beaten, and still says he is ready to die for his gang.
COOPER (voice-over): Also coming up on 360, two girls sentenced to life for the brutal slaying of one teen's grandparents. How could they do it? Find out tonight as they relive the crime and tell the court how easy it was to kill.
Every wonder why you buy the things do you? It's all about the packaging: manipulation by labeling. Tonight, how companies get you to buy what their selling even if you don't need it.
And pregnant with quintuplets. She wanted to help a couple unable to have kids. Now she's got more than she bargained for. Tonight, a surrogate mother's decision to bare five children free of charge. 360 continues.
COOPER: Well, we talked about gang crime in America. The L.A.P.D. calls it domestic terrorism, the kind of terrorism much more likely to affect your community than al Qaeda, for instance.
We spent two months in a gang-infested L.A. community, and were able to get inside gang life in a way rarely seen before. Our guide, a gangster named Kiki (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are entering the zone now. I walk around with a tattoo on my head. I'm a target. I have a pusa (ph). That should tell you everything.
COOPER: Kiki (ph) is 26, a proud member of White Fence, one of Hollenbeck's 34 gangs. The police say there are now 700 White Fence members and associates.
KIKI: Pick up the fully automatic, let them have it, getting rid of static, who's the baddest?
COOPER: Gangsters who claim to be guardians of neighborhood.
Kiki (ph) he's been shot three times.
KIKI: Right there, 10 in the morning, drive-by. When you get shot, you're like damn. People are just screaming. Aahhh, you are going to be all right. Then I'm like, damn, man. Then, I'm like damn in the hospital. I got is not my arm. Like what the...
COOPER: Kiki was 14 when he joined White Fence. He was jumped in, beaten up by fellow gang members. It's a common initiation meant to test loyalty and give members a taste of what gang life is all about. For Kiki who spent time in foster care, the gang was everything he hoped for. Friends, family, and fights.
KIKI: When I was in junior high, that's what we used to go to school for, to pick a fight. I was nuts to two bucks, that was it.
COOPER: His status in the gang grew, along with his juvenile record.
KIKI: Guns, drugs, assault, attempted murder, gang banging, everything.
COOPER (on camera): Some people would say it's wrong to be in a gang. And it's wrong to sell drug, gang bang, whatever.
KIKI: Well, sell drugs is like -- I mean, we don't do it. Someone else is going to do it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I've got -- my last name on my back.
COOPER (voice-over): Older gang member, veteranos, schooled Kiki in the odd gang morality and the rules of engagement. Drive-by shootings are OK, as long as they don't kill innocent kids.
KIKI: That's a no-no. I mean, damn, they don't know right from wrong.
COOPER: And if a home boy is killed, gang members should take the law into their own hands.
KIKI: The cops, they've got so many murderers on their hand, I mean, we'd rather take our own actions.
One of my friends died right here protecting the bridge. So this is one of the places we can't let go.
COOPER: Though he joined the gang for a sense of belonging, 12 years later, Kiki now finds himself alone. Most of his friends are in prison or dead.
(on camera): I don't quite get appeal of being in a gang right now for you.
KIKI: This is all I got. I don't got nothing else. I don't come home to nothing else.
COOPER (voice-over): Kiki passes time tattooing, a skill he picked up in jail. He has no full-time job, but takes classes at a community college. He's on probation for selling crack.
(on camera): So like 10 years from now, what do you think you'll be doing?
KIKI: I don't know. I don't think ahead like that. I just go day by day.
COOPER (voice-over): Kiki does think about putting his fighting skills to use. Inspired by one of his favorite movies, "Full Metal Jacket." he talks about joining the Marines.
KIKI: I think that's best route for us gang members. That would be the best route for society. I would rather die a hero, than you know, die a statistic.
COOPER: But his criminal record, joining the Marines is just a fantasy, a fantasy he's fighting to hold on to.
COOPER: Well, at least one of the gang members we met while shooting that report has already been killed.
This weekend, check out our "CNN PRESENTS" special program, homicide at home, and in depth look at life and lose in gang ridden community. It airs Saturday 8:00 p.m. and also at 11:00 p.m.
On the market, off the market, the FDA says high doses of ephedra are illegal.
Erica Hill from Headline News joins us with that and more, at about quarter past the hour.
ERICA HILL, HEADLINE NEWS": Hey, Anderson. Happy Friday.
The FDA, we're learning, is now keeping in place a ban on products, with higher doses of ephedra. Now, this decision comes just a day after the judge threw out agency's ban on lower doses of the once popular weight control diet supplement. That ruling applied to 10 milligrams or less. The FDA pulled ephedra off the market last year. You recall, after it's use was linked to heart attacks and strokes. Manufacturers insist however that it is safe when use as directed.
A horrible scene in Paris today. An early-morning fire filled the six-story Paris Opera Hotel with thick smoke and flame, rendering the buildings only exit unusable for most floors. Many people jumped or fell from the windows as firefighters tried desperately to reach them on ladders. At least 20 people were killed, half of them children, 53 others were hurt.
NASA is assessing a new automated technology system, which they say, could one day lead it an automated docking system for spacecraft. It all starts with the satellite known as DART, which was sent into orbit today. DART is designed to locate an rendezvous with another target satellite with no direction from the ground. DART is expected to complete 53 pre-program sets of maneuvers, including flying around the target satellite, moving in close and backing away.
Tonight's midnight tax deadline is forcing many to forget happy hour and hunker down. Of course, for most filers getting that return done will take much more than one hour. The IRS estimate Americans spend 6.6 billion hours on the paperwork. What does that translate to? Well, for you and me, the typical taxpayer about 27 hours of record-keeping, preparing form, copying and mailing. Now on the good side here, that's down about an hour and a half from last year.
So you get back an hour 1/2, but you've still got to do the taxes -- Anderson.
COOPER: Erica, I know you don't really pay taxes, do you?
HILL: Of course not. Only little people pay taxes, Anderson, remember.
COOPER: Ah, Leona Helms, where is she now.
HILL: Who could forget her?
COOPER: I wonder, being audited, no doubt. Erica, thanks very much. And I know that you do pay taxes.
HILL: I do, I do.
COOPER: All right, well, see you again in about 30 minutes.
Coming up next on 360, ever been to the supermarket and you buy all this stuff you don't really want. Ever wonder why that happens? Believe it's no accident. Coming up, how marketers seduce you into buying things you don't even need. The dirty secrets they don't want you to know.
Also ahead tonight, killer confession. A teenager describes a frenzy fueled by crack cocaine -- find out why her drug dealer is now being charged with murder.
Also a little later tonight, quintuplets by surrogate. Meet a remarkable woman who's carrying five babies for another couple. And she is doing it, she says, for free. She joins us live. We're covering all the angles. Stay with us.
COOPER: So did you ever get something at the supermarket, take it home, and then say to yourself, I don't need this, I don't want it. Why did I buy it? That, my friends, is the power of product packaging. It's a billion-dollar business, where companies are betting you'll think that image and design are just as important as flavor. All this week, as part of our special series, we have been looking at the split-second decisions, really, that all of us make, decisions which are the focus of the new best-selling book, "Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking," by Michael Gladwell. Tonight, Heidi Collins reveals the science of product packaging.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): America's typical supermarket, as many as 100,000 different products clamoring for your attention. How do you choose?
We went shopping with marketing expert Darrel Rhea, CEO of Cheskin Consulting firm, to get a firsthand look at the methods companies use to get you to buy what they are selling.
DARREL RHEA, CEO, CHESKIN CONSULTING: One of the things manufacturers do and designers do is they really sweat the details. Here on the Hormel logo, things like this sprig of parsley are engineered into that design to communicate freshness.
COLLINS (on camera): Come on, that little tiny bit of green, that sprig, is going to actually make me say, huh, this must be fresh?
RHEA: It will add to it.
COLLINS (voice-over): While you may not realize it, packages send subtle messages and tap our emotions. The thinking is, the sunrise on Folgers coffee connects with the morning ritual of sipping that perfect cup.
The glass jar of Del Monte Fruit reminds us of grandma's kitchen.
The film reel and colors on Orville Redenbacher's popcorn have that movie theater feel.
And all of these visual cues don't just manipulate our first impressions...
RHEA: The packaging does influence the taste of the product as well. We do taste products with our eyes.
COLLINS: Look no further than the ice cream aisle.
RHEA: Packaging that's in a slender container is perceived as tasting better, and being more premium than packaging in a rectangular package. It's the combination of the fact that we've got stripes. Those stripes kind of harken back to an old-fashioned ice cream parlor, and we've got the ice cream in a bowl. We got flavor cues that are hitting us.
COLLINS: And hitting our wallets. The fancier presentation triggers our impulse to buy, and pay more.
In this store, $3.19 will get you 100 bags of straightforward Salada tea at regular price, or just 20 bags of the more ornate Twinings.
(on camera): And when you actually do the comparison, in here, it's $3.19 basically a pound. Here, it's nearly $16 a pound. That better be some darn good tea.
RHEA: Absolutely. You have some of them going up to $17 or $18 a pound.
COLLINS (voice-over): In fact, it often comes down to trust. And who do you trust more than these familiar characters?
COLLINS: Daring or not, these personalities are carefully designed and tested for mass appeal. It's all about the right look to get us to make that split-second decision to go from shelf to cart.
And packaging isn't just for grown-ups. A lot of prime store real estate is dedicated to little shoppers.
RHEA: We were looking at a fruit roll-up product that has tongue talk tattoos.
COLLINS (on camera): Oh, yummy.
RHEA: This is really toy packaging, not food packaging.
We've got Barbie, "Shark Tales," "Shrek," really fun packaging that invokes an entertainment experience.
COLLINS (voice-over): So big or small, old or young, are we all being manipulated?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we're being manipulated all the time. And I think we have to know the extent to which our unconscious is being manipulated. Once you know about that, you do make different decisions, and you make smarter decisions, and you're at least in charge.
COLLINS: Two-thirds of our grocery purchases are unplanned. What can you do to resist impulse buying? Well, make sure specials are special. Be wary of those end-of-aisle displays. Not everything there is on sale. Make a detailed shopping list, complete with brand names, and slow down. Interrupt the impulse.
And if all else fails? RHEA: Just shop online. You won't have the sensory overload that we get in the grocery store like this.
COLLINS: There is actually a term for all of this that Malcolm Gladwell came up with. He calls our split-decision making thin slicing, and we all do it every day. And, Anderson, when it comes to shopping, it was kind of like a self-defense mechanism. Because there are so many products in places like grocery stores, we become overwhelmed, we kind of panic, and then just buy. Because then, if you were to sit there and actually think long and hard about each one of those purchases, obviously you'd be in the grocery store for hours.
COOPER: That's why they have all those little things when you are checking out, because you just end up reaching out and buying them. At least I do.
COLLINS: That's right. Impulse buys. I do, too.
COOPER: All right, Heidi, thanks very much.
A woman -- two girls sentenced to life for the brutal slaying of one teen's grandparents. How could they do it? Find out tonight as they relive the crime and tell the court how easy it was to kill.
And pregnant with quintuplets. She wanted to help a couple unable to have kids. Now she's got more than she bargained for. Tonight, a surrogate mother's decision to bear five children free of charge. 360 continues.
COOPER: This is the story of a good deed gone wild, but very happily so. That is all Teresa Anderson wanted to do, just a good deed, by helping an infertile woman become a mother. So she offered herself up as a surrogate. And how has it worked out? Well, it's worked out, all right. She's carrying quintuplets. You are going to meet her in a moment, but first, 360 MD Sanjay Gupta has her story.
LUISA GONZALEZ, BIOLOGICAL MOTHER OF QUINTUPLETS: Everyone asks, when are you having your babies? When are you having your babies? I don't know what to say. I guess (INAUDIBLE).
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SR. MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Luis Gonzalez and her husband Enrique Moreno tried for nine years to have a baby. When their efforts failed, they sought out the services of a surrogate. They found Teresa Anderson.
TERESA ANDERSON, SURROGATE MOTHER: I thought about being a surrogate because I've had so many previous normal, healthy babies.
GUPTA: Four healthy babies, to be exact. And so she agreed to help Gonzalez and Moreno by delivering their dream. Last September, doctors harvested eggs from Luisa, fertilized them with her husband's sperm, and implanted five embryos into Teresa's uterus. Seh says they told her there was a one in three chance that one would take. But as she went through a series of ultrasounds, she was in for a shock.
ANDERSON: A, B, C, D and E.
GUPTA: According to the centers for Disease Control and Prevention, by 2002, more than 45,000 births resulted from advance reproductive technology such as IVF and fertility drugs, 548 of those were born to surrogate mothers. But Teresa's obstetrician appearing on "Good Morning America" says this case is unique.
DR. JOHN ELLIOTT, TERESA'S DOCTOR: I have checked with two support group, Mothers of Super Twins and Triplet Connection, who kind of have an idea of all multiples that occur and they are unaware of this happening before. So I think this is a first.
GUPTA: Gonzalez and Moreno face the future with five new mouths to feed and massive medical bills. One of the babies is already showing signs of a heart condition. So Teresa says she decided to forego her promised $15,000 fee.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.
COOPER: Amazing story.
Here they are live from Phoenix, Arizona. Jared Anderson and his wife Teresa, who happens to be as you saw, really, really, really, really, really, that was five reallies, in case you missed the point, pregnant.
Appreciate you both being with us. Thanks very much for all of you being with us I suppose I should say.
TERESA ANDERSON, SURROGATE MOM OF QUINTUPLETS: Thanks for having us.
COOPER: How do you feel? You're just a few weeks from delivering?
T. ANDERSON: Well, I feel like any pregnant mother, you know, anticipating the birth. Just a couple of weeks away and it's getting closer everyday.
COOPER: Are they kicking a lot?
T. ANDERSON: At this point, they don't have much room. So it doesn't seem to be that they kick too much.
COOPER: That's I guess is a silver lining.
The doctors implanted five embryos. Did you know there was a chance that all five could produce healthy fetuses?
T. ANDERSON: Well, I really didn't think that -- well there was -- I understand that there was a small chance that one could take. So, having five take is kind of extraordinary.
COOPER: Yes. To say the least.
Jared, what did you think when you heard your wife was carrying quintuplets?
JARED ANDERSON, WIFE CARRYING QUINTUPLETS: I was shocked at first. Very -- I had to take a step back. Just shocked, I guess I could say. It was exciting, though.
COOPER: Wow. I know you said you're not going to accept payment, the $15,000 fee. Why, Teresa? What was your thinking on that?
T. ANDERSON: Well, Luis and I became friends, and Enrique became friends over the course of the time. And considering the extreme circumstances -- you know, we're not well off by any means, but we know how much it is to care for our children. And having two of our own, we just thought that it could be something that we could help them out, because it's going to be so expensive for everything. That's five children to be responsible for and we know how big of an issue that is.
J. ANDERSON: Always.
COOPER: Jared, how did the biological parents react when you all told them you were not going to accept the fee?
J. ANDERSON: They were shocked, stunned. They had to take a seat. And then they said, thank you. And started crying at the time. I think we all did. It was very heartfelt moment.
COOPER: Would do you this again, Teresa, for another couple?
T. ANDERSON: Probably. But I wouldn't have five.
So if anybody wants five out there, three's tops.
COOPER: What's the -- I mean I guess some days are better than others. I mean, are you able to walk around much? I mean, you are obviously very pregnant.
T. ANDERSON: Not these days. For the last three week, it's very hard. My feet swell, my blood pressure goes up. It's just a lot of back pain. It's very heavy.
So, these guys are very heavy. So right now, I'm just kind of laying around.
COOPER: Well, gosh, you know, it's great to actually meet you. And it's just a remarkable story. And you're doing a wonderful thing for another couple out there and for these five kids. Teresa, appreciate you being with us. And Jared Anderson, as well, thank you.
T. ANDERSON: Thank you for having us.
J. ANDERSON: Thank you.
COOPER: Coming up next on 360, a story that's hard to believe: Two girls on a drug fueled frenzy. Find out why police are charging one of these girl's drug dealer with murder.
Also tonight, what do you get when you cross a whale and a dolphin? Yes, well, we were surprised too. You're looking at it. It's called a wolfin. We have the cross-breeding story ahead.
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COOPER: Well parents, before we get into this next report, we want to warn it is graphic, so you might want to consider taking the kids out of the room for a few minutes.
The story is about two murderers who scrawled a to-do list on one of their arms. It said simply, kill, keys, money, jewelry. The two teenaged girls, who were allegedly lovers from Georgia. And they made sure the first part of the plan was carrying out: stabbing to death the grandparents of one of the girls.
This week in a plea deal with prosecutors, they pled guilty to crime, but not before telling the court the gruesome details of their deed.
CNN's Gary Tuchman reports.
GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A 16-year-old girl charged with murdering the grandparents who helped raise her. The accusation? That Halle Harvey and 16-year-old Sandy Kechum did it because the grandparents did not approve of their lesbian relationship.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, this is what I want you to explain to me, fully, how it was that you decided to stab your grandfather and grandmother.
TUCHMAN: Because she agreed to a plea bargain that could get her out of prison in 20 year, Harvey was compelled to answer Judge Pascal English's questions. And what she said was chilling?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where did you get the knife from?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: From the kitchen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what type of knife was it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Biggest one.
TUCHMAN: The teenager said she killed her grandmother first.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You closed your eyes and you stabbed her? Do you know where you stabbed her?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In the back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know how many times you stabbed her?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe three times.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All in the back? Well, when you stabbed her in the back, what happened the first time?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She made -- she screamed, but it wasn't very loud.
TUCHMAN: Her grandfather picked up the telephone to call for help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He the phone in his hand. Then, I had pulled the cord out of the wall. Then, he had ran and grabbed a knife. And I thought he was going to stab me. But I took the knife from my grandpa, and closed my eyes, and I just started stabbing my grandpa real fast.
TUCHMAN: After that, Harvey and Kechum took off in the grandparents' truck. They drove it a friend's house. A friend who called 911 minutes after the murders.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They have blood from head to toe everywhere, and she came. And at first she told me she got jumped. So I asked her why? And she didn't tell me and I gave her a towel so they could dry off.
And then she told me that she lied. And that she killed her grandparents at her house in Riverdell. I don't know where her house is, but it's in Riverdell.
TUCHMAN: They were caught within a day and brought to court in bulletproof vests. Police say they had been smoking marijuana and crack cocaine before the crime. Harvey told the judge they had practiced stabbing the knife into the bed before the murders.
ENGLISH: Did you stab anything other than the bed?
ENGLISH: Was anything on the wall?
HARVEY: A picture frame.
ENGLISH: Was anything in the picture frame?
HARVEY: There was a painted picture of some puppies. ENGLISH: A painted picture of some puppies?
HARVEY: Yes, sir.
ENGLISH: And you practiced and Sandy practiced stabbing the puppies? Is that right?
HARVEY: Yes, sir.
TUCHMAN: The other teen will be eligible for parole in 14 years, a lighter sentence partly because Sandy Ketchum cooperated with police and showed early remorse.
Although listen to the whispered prompting her lawyer gave her in the midst of this statement to the judge.
SANDRA KETCHUM: I would like to say that if there was any way I could take their place and give them my life, I wouldn't think twice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell him you're sorry.
KETCHUM: And I'm really sorry that this happened.
TUCHMAN: Holly Harvey also asked for forgiveness, and mentioned her mother, who was in prison on a drug charge at the same time of the murders. That mother, now out of prison, was asked if she accepted any of the blame for the turn her daughter's life has taken.
CARLA HARVEY, HOLLY HARVEY'S MOTHER: Absolutely none, any at all. It was her action, it was her doings. I can't hold myself responsible for that.
TUCHMAN: Holly Harvey told Judge English at the hearing that she got her crack cocaine from a friend named Calvin. Well, that was bad news for one Calvin Larson (ph), who was apprehend and arrested after the hearing and also charged with murder. Prosecutors alleging it's a proper charge, because the killings occurred as a result of his providing the drugs.
It's expected that Calvin Larson's (ph) attorney will vigorously fight that murder charge -- Anderson.
COOPER: Unbelievable story. Gary, thank you very much. Bizarre.
Finger food or fraud? Wendy's is doubling a reward for anyone who can solve a mystery. Erica Hill from HEADLINE NEWS joins us with that at about 20 to the hour.
COOPER: Eighteen to the hour, there you go. Erica, thanks.
HILL: That's because I did my taxes already. My math is still good.
Yeah, this one gets stranger by the day. You probably heard the story now about the woman who said she found a finger in her chili from a Wendy's restaurant. Well, now, Wendy's is doubling its reward for information about that incident to a whopping $100,000. The company says the bad publicity has hurt sales, and forced some layoffs. And the woman who made the claim last month has since dropped her legal case against Wendy's.
During the heated debate over the fate of Terri Schiavo, her parents frequently claimed her husband, Michael, mistreated the brain- damaged woman and was not qualified to be in charge of her care, but documents released today by Florida's Department of Children and Family Services conclude there is no evidence to support such claims. DCS officials say they found Michael Schiavo to be a quote, "loving spouse, who cared deeply about his wife." Terri Schiavo died on March 31st, after her feeding tube was removed over the objection of her parents.
The Australian man who caused a security scare at the U.S. Capitol has now been deported. He was tackled by police on Monday after he stood on Capitol grounds with two black suitcases and demanded to speak to President Bush. Those bags were blown up. Nothing dangerous, though, was found inside.
And there is an apparent rash of pelican injuries in Huntington Beach, California. A veterinarian performed emergency surgery today on an endangered brown pelican that had its throat poach cut. This is the fourth pelican recovered in the area with similar injuries in recent weeks. And officials don't know if someone is doing it deliberately. Let's hope not.
And that's latest from HEADLINE NEWS. Anderson, back to you.
COOPER: That's just a horrible story about the pelican.
HILL: It's awful.
COOPER: All right, Erica, thanks very much. See you again in about 30 minutes.
Now, let's find out what is coming up in a few minutes on "PAULA ZAHN NOW." Hey, Paula.
PAULA ZAHN, HOST, "PAULA ZAHN NOW": Hi, Anderson, how are you tonight.
ZAHN: We're going to look at what's going on tonight and virtually every weekend all across suburbia, behind the manicured lawns, behind the closed doors. Normally law-abiding parents are actually inviting underaged teenagers to do something completely illegal -- drink alcohol, and in many cases drink heavily at home. A shocking story about suburban America's dirty little secret at the top of the hour. The worst part of this, Anderson, in many cases, these parents are letting kids get into the cars after they leave their homes.
COOPER: That's remarkable. All right, Paula, thanks very much. That's in about 15 minutes from now. Appreciate it.
Coming up next on 360, we got ligers, we got tigons, and now we got wholphins. That's right, wholphins. Oh, my. Yes, part dolphin, part whale. How did this happen? We're not exactly sure, but the mixed breeding hits the water. We'll tell you all about the hybrid Flipper, and maybe some ligers as well.
COOPER: You're looking at the answer to that ever-burning question. It's really an old-age question asked on college campuses late at night after a party. What would happen if a killer whale made it with a bottle-nosed dolphin? Who hasn't asked that question? That's what's called a wholphin. If you ask me, I'd say it looks like a plain old dolphin, but it's not. Hawaii sea life park says it is the only whale-dolphin hybrid ever born in captivity. It agrees. As strange as it is, the wholphin has company in the cross-breeding business. There is in fact a creature in Miami's Parrot Jungle Island that has the crowds gawking at one supersized kitty. Take a look.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who is that? Who is that guy, huh?
COOPER (voice-over): Meet Hercules the liger, and his trainer, Dr. Bhagovan Antle. So what exactly is a liger? Well, for starters...
DR. BHAGOVAN ANTLE, THE INSTITUTE OF GREATLY ENDANGERED & RARE SPECIES: Hercules is a liger, because his mother is a tiger and his father is a lion.
COOPER: That coupling produces the world's largest cat.
ANTLE: This big guy's about 900 pounds, and he's almost 12 feet tall.
COOPER: But what if the mother was a lion, the father a tiger?
ANGLE: He'd be a tigon, and he'd be a dwarf.
COOPER: A dwarf like this cub, who won't grow bigger than 350 pounds.
For Hercules, the opposite happened. And in this mixed breed, everything is supersized.
ANTLE: Good boy.
Ligers like this have incredible teeth. He seems to have the teeth of both his mother and father combined.
COOPER: Which he can use to eat up to 100 pounds of meat in a single sitting -- that is when he isn't drinking a bottle.
ANTLE: He's all worked himself up.
COOPER: Because after all, his trainer says he's really just a big baby. He's expected to keep growing until he reaches 1,000 pounds.
COOPER: In Miami to talk about the magnificent creature of his is Dr. Bhagovan Antle, director of the Institute of Greatly Endangered and Rare Species. Doctor, thanks for being with us. Is that Hercules there?
ANTLE: This is Hercules, my little liger boy. About 900 pounds of kitty cat.
COOPER: How did this happen? How did Hercules come about? I mean, this doesn't happen in the wild, obviously, lions and tigers live in separate places and don't normally hook up.
ANTLE: Well, for us, we have a lot of big cats that we use for different wildlife educational performances like what we do here at Parrot Jungle Island. And we have these big free roaming areas that they're able to exercise in and play around in. Out there, there was one this lion boy that just decide he liked the tiger girl far better than we'd really planned on, and we've reproduced some ligers. This is how Hercules popped up.
COOPER: Hercules certainly likes -- seems to like milk an awful lot there. I hope you don't run out of that milk soon. What -- they get different things from -- I mean, obviously lions and tigers are very different. What traits does Hercules have from the lion's side and what traits from the tiger's side.
ANTLE: You know, we're very fortunate with him in a lot of his attributes like that. He's got a lot of the social things that lions do. Lions are more social, and they want to touch more. And they're able to be a lot more communicative than a lot of tigers are. So Hercules here is able to have that ability, to be petted and come up and say hi to you. But then he's not so ferocious. Lions as they mature become so ferocious. Tigers a little more mild mannered. So, you kind of get the best of both worlds in him psychologically, that you do you in this incredible look as well. Got his mom's stripes but the tawny color of his dad.
COOPER: Such a beautiful animal. You know, there are those who say that tigers shouldn't be tamed and domesticated. There's concern about black market of the exotic animals.
ANTLE: I mean, I absolutely don't think that anyone should have a pet tiger. You know, I don't think that's really a good thing. That you need one in your local neighborhood. I mean, I think this is America and should able to do anything you want within bounds and with permits and stuff like that. But Hercules isn't my pet, right? He's an educational tool that's used for wildlife conservation. The shows at Parrot Jungle Island that we work on, have a whole system of talking to the public and creating the opportunity for them to see animals up close and uncaged. I think that the bond that people get by seeing animals, not sleeping or pacing in cages creates a different idea for them. And that they're much more interested in what you have to say. He's an ambassador to teach people about ideas of conservation, reduce, reuse, renew. You know, reducing your consumption and reusing what you've got.
COOPER: Let me ask you, how big is that tongue?
ANTLE: That's a long tongue. I get comes out about 10 inches, if he wants to. He loves this baby bottle. He had a bottle since he was a baby and we just kept him on it. So this is his treat.
COOPER: And he eats up to like 100 pounds of meat a day, is that possibly?
ANTLE: He can eat a hundred pounds in a single sitting, but it will make him gain extra weight. So, we keep him at 20, 25 pounds, beef or chicken with a special vitamin and mineral mix on it, and that keeps him in optimum health. If you gave him 100 pounds every day, he'd probably end up weighing 1,500 pounds, but he wouldn't be able to walk too well
COOPER: Hey, Doctor Angelo, appreciate you joining us with Hercules. Just unbelievably beautiful, beautiful animal there, a liger. Thanks very much, doctor.
COOPER: 360 next, more wild animals. Yes, can't get enough of them! Buy hey, these creatures could be peacemaker. International diplomats? We'll take that to "The Nth Degree."
COOPER: And time for some of your "Viewer E-mail." A lot of you wrote about our coverage of sexual offenders living in Florida. Lee from Orange, Texas writes, "Mr. Cooper, you are as dumb as the judges and prosecutors. The only way to stop these child molesters, killers is to keep them in jail all their lives. They all have long records. This is what you should be pointing up."
Lee thanks for the e-mail. It must be tough being the only smart person around. Just so you know I don't really think it's my job to point out things or point up things, as you so charmingly suggest. We don't sides on 360, I don't shove my opinion down viewer's throats. We try to look at all the angles. Just wanted to point that up to you.
On a lighter note, Cynthia from Toronto writes, Hey Anderson, I've always wondered what you looked like in the '80's."
Cynthia, the '80's weren't kind for anyone. And I've most of those photos destroyed. But we did find this one of me from about '84. Yes, I know, it wasn't pretty. You might have seen my TV series back then.
Ian in New York, writes, "Anderson, I don't know if you were keeping track, but if you were, you'd realize that this Friday is the 400th episode of 360. Interesting, huh? Congratulations. Here's wish you 400 more."
Ian, thank you. We actually were not keeping track. But upon getting your e-mail, we tried to figure out how best to celebrate, then, of course, it hit us. Our favorite commercial. Because really putting together a good TV show is just like being in the Japanese Navy. It's all about seaman ship
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COOPER: Ah, yes, we ran it twice, because we can. It's good to be old. Send us your thoughts anytime, cnn.com/360, and click on the instant feedback link.
Tonight, reaching out to "The Nth Degree."
A wonderful, warm and fuzzy thing happened the other today in one of the worlds most terribly tense places. No really, this is going to bring tears to your eyes. Across the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea, those two countries which never have made peace with one another, and who's remains to this day, a thorn in the Earth's side, there went waddling, and loping and bounding and clopping, from north to south, a little parade of hippos, a small party of red kangaroos, assorted wallabies, of course you're basic selection of guanacos and llamas. And then going the other direction from Pyongyang to Seoul, you had your compliment of Asiatic Black Bear, a scattering of lynxes, a soup column of coyotes, a smattering of African ponies, and standard contingent of Siberian weasels.
Yes, that's right, it was the first ever exchange of zoo animals between a couple of countries that have been at one another's throat for decades now. Of course, any small gesture of any kind at all on the part of reclusive, secretive nuclear weapon seeking, oppressor of his people like North Korea's Kim Jong Il, has got to be considered a good thing. It certainly does, but this gesture especially because, well as we all know, nothing says, let's let bygones be bygones like a gift weasels.
I remember my first gift of weasels. I'm Anderson Cooper, thanks for watching 360. Prime time coverage continues right now with Paula Zahn, hey Paula.
PAULA ZAHN, "HOST PAULA ZAHN NOW": Hey, thanks Anderson, happy 400.
COOPER: Thanks very much.
ZAHN: You don't look a day over 399. COOPER: Well, it's a lot of Botox, but you know, we do what we can.
ZAHN: Have a good weekend. Appreciate it.
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