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The New Pope; News Conference by U.S. Cardinals

Aired April 20, 2005 - 05:30   ET

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KELLY WALLACE, CNN ANCHOR: Well time now for our DAYBREAK "Eye Openers."
Where else but in Seattle would they hold the world's Barista championships. Coffeemakers from all over the world competed for the king of coffee crown. And that title was taken by a Danish barista who says his secret was using milk he brought with him from Copenhagen.

Now what does this look like to you? For some people in Chicago, it looks like the Virgin Mary has appeared on a wall near the expressway. People took pictures and lit candles around the image they are now calling "Our Lady of the Underpass."

And it is not quite the running of the bulls, but in England they enjoy watching the sheep races. Needless to say, sheep racing was invented after a night of drinking. Yes, that's right.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: That's steeple chasing.

WALLACE: Yes, exactly. Anyway, the sheep and their knitted jockeys trot around the course in search of the food trough. The winner gets an extra portion of whatever it is that sheep eat.

What do they eat -- Chad?

MYERS: Sheep food.

WALLACE: Sheep food. That's good.

And lastly, but not leastly, if that's such a word, for more farm animal fun, how about the Pig Olympics in China. These puny porkers have to make their way over the hurdles, under the water and through the hoops and to grandma's house they go. One race official says the pigs teach children to never give up.

They're so cute.

MYERS: They can swim good, too.

WALLACE: Listen to this one, either that or they just make the kids hungry for a ham sandwich. No.

MYERS: No. Who wrote that?

WALLACE: No. Writers, writers, no.

MYERS: No, no, no, no, maybe some Kung Pao Chicken.

WALLACE: Yes.

MYERS: But certainly not a ham sandwich.

WALLACE: They're too cute to think of that.

All right, Chad, we'll talk to you in a few minutes.

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WALLACE: Good morning, and welcome to the second half-hour of DAYBREAK. From the Time Warner Center in New York, I'm Kelly Wallace in for Carol Costello, and along with Chad Myers.

"Now in the News."

Pope Benedict XVI has said his first mass as the new leader of the Roman Catholic Church. The pontiff celebrated mass this morning in the Sistine Chapel where less than a day before the College of Cardinals elected him pope.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says she's making some progress on her trip to Russia. Rice expressed some concern about the state of democracy in Russia and urged President Vladimir Putin to make good on his promise not to run for a third term. The secretary is preparing for President Bush's visit to Russia next month.

The same congressional panel that investigated steroid use in Major League Baseball now wants to grill the NFL. The committee wants to know more about how football players are tested and which drugs they're tested for.

And Michael Jackson says he thinks his child molestation trial is, to use his words, -- quote -- "going well." He made the comment after the fifth day of testimony by the mother of the boy accusing him of abuse. The prosecution expects to wrap up its case next week.

And Chad Myers in Atlanta.

Good morning, again, -- Chad.

MYERS: Good morning, Kelly.

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Back to you -- Kelly.

WALLACE: All right, Chad, we'll talk to you in a few minutes. Thanks so much.

MYERS: You're welcome.

WALLACE: Beneath Michelangelo's scenes from the book of Genesis, the new pope celebrates his first mass in the Sistine Chapel. Certainly Catholics around the world are very interested to learn what the new pope is saying about his aims and his faith.

Let's go live to Rome now and speak with Claudia Lavanga, an Italian journalist with REI Television.

Claudio Lavanga, thanks for joining us. First question to you, how are Italians reacting about this new pope?

CLAUDIO LAVANGA, REI-TV: They're reacting well. They're happy. They would have been happy if the pope was from any other nationality but Italian. They weren't expecting too much of an Italian pope, because they got so used to a non-Italian who speaks Italian and who behaves like an Italian, like John Paul II did.

I mean this is really the heritage that John Paul II left Ratzinger but from the conservative ideas on the doctrine of the faith. And Ratzinger speaks perfect Italian. And he proved that yesterday on the balcony behind me, although with a broken -- well not even a broken accent, with a strong accent, but Italians are used to it. I mean probably if an Italian would have come out on the balcony with an accent from Milan, it would have sounded less familiar than this. So they're happy. They're happy.

WALLACE: All right, Claudio, I want to hold you there, because we want to go now to a news conference that is taking place in Vatican City. And you are listening now to Archbishop Theodore McCarrick, the Archbishop of Washington. These are the American cardinals speaking about what took place in the conclave. Let's listen in.

CARDINAL THEODORE MCCARRICK, ARCHBISHOP OF WASHINGTON: And you're all equals. And you're all, you know, talking eminence this, eminence that or first name, this first name, that. And then suddenly one of them is different, the election is over and there's a Holy Father.

And you know you -- yesterday morning I think many of us had spoke to Cardinal Ratzinger and said your eminence, how are you, or something like that, or had a conversation with him. And then suddenly in the evening he is no longer one of you, he's no longer Cardinal Ratzinger, he's the Holy Father. He's the successor of Peter the Vicar of Christ and he's Pope Benedict XVI.

So it's a wonderful progression of history that we lived through, all of us, during these last few days. And how extraordinarily powerful it is as a witness. This is one of the great democracy of the world, the choice of the Holy Father. And when it is over, we are able to greet him and to say, Holy Father, your holiness, and to know that he has, as we believe, the authority to teach in Jesus' name and the authority to lead the church and to guide the church along the roads that he feels, after prayer, after reflection, after discussion.

And he mentions this a number of times in the talk that Cardinal Mahoney referred to today that he wants to be collegial, he wants the advice of the cardinals, he wants to be talking to the bishops. He will do it in the synod and he will do it on other occasions.

So I think that that, for me, was one of the great things. And I think might be something which you can all hold on to, that suddenly, after an election, there's a big difference in the Holy Father, a big difference in all of us as we relate to him.

SISTER MARY ANN (ph): Thank you, your eminence.

Cardinal Rigali.

CARDINAL RIGALI, ARCHBISHOP OF PHILADELPHIA: Once again...

WALLACE: You are listening to a news conference, U.S. cardinals speaking to reporters in Vatican City. We were just listening to Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the Archbishop of Washington. Some 11 American cardinals, we understand, voted in the conclave selecting Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany as the new pope.

We were talking with our guest, Claudio Lavanga, Italian journalist with REI-TV.

And, Claudio, let me ask you, because in the United States polls are showing that American Catholics somewhat concerned about the conservative views of the new pope. Some were wanting a more liberal approach, a more moderate approach. What are you picking up when you look at how Italians are feeling in that regard?

LAVANGA: Italians feel exactly the same, especially because John Paul II reached out to so many youth that it was actually the youth that had more expectations of who the next pope was. And although Ratzinger is very popular, I mean they are, of course, concerned of the fact that he has this very conservative take on issues like homosexuality, celibacy and the ordination of women.

But everybody understands, also, and everybody thinks that this is a transition period. I mean they have elected the cardinal it looks like to fix all the problems of the church. And they delayed and they postponed these other issues of more progressive take for the next pope, which you know probably will come in a few years. And while I hope for Cardinal Ratzinger to live as long as he can, but he's also 78, that's why they think it's a transition period. So let's say that the issue is postponed.

WALLACE: Let me ask you also, Claudio, no disappointment, because, as you were mentioning at the top of our conversation, there were some cardinals, Italian cardinals sort of on any short list as possible candidates to become new pope? You detecting any disappointment at all on the part of Italians?

LAVANGA: Well the Italians, you know, have the biggest group for any nation. Of course in the conclave they're 20. At the beginning, they were talking about two big sides, and the one side was Ratzinger. The one side was Martini who was going for Cardinal Tettamanzi.

Now it looks like that have been voted -- having been elected so quickly, the Italians have changed their mind and they have seen in Ratzinger the best person to lead the church. So this is not really defeat for the Italian cardinals, this is just what they also think is the best choice.

WALLACE: All right. Claudio Lavanga, joining us this morning from Rome, we appreciate it.

We want to take you back live now to that news conference under way. American cardinals speaking out. You're listening now to Cardinal Rigali, Archbishop of Philadelphia. Let's listen in.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you, your eminence.

Cardinal Egan, could you give us a few words, please?

CARDINAL EDWARD MICHAEL EGAN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEW YORK: I do. And I want to start by thanking the media for your extraordinary kindness over these last several weeks. As I read the newspapers and when I was watching television and listening to the radio, I thought that your insights and your understanding and your kindness was extraordinary. And I'm very, very grateful for this.

I have known this wonderful Holy Father for a large number of years, a long number of years. I mentioned last night when we had a press conference that he was extraordinarily kind to me when I was leaving Rome in 1985. I had been working here in the Coria (ph) for 14 years and I was going back to New York as an auxiliary bishop to my predecessor John Cardinal O'Connor.

I had done some work for the office, which the Holy Father then headed, but I had not certainly been someone who was in regular involvement with him. Nonetheless, on a Friday night, his secretary called me up and said that the cardinal was on retreat but he was coming back to Rome on Saturday morning to say goodbye. And I was shocked. I said, well please don't have him do that, that's not necessary at all. He said, well, he's going to do it.

And so on a bright sunny May morning I went over to his office. And he was sitting there in his black hassock, and he said I just didn't want you to leave without saying goodbye. And I believe that that is a characteristic that you will come to know in him as the months and the years pass. He's a man of calm, a man of secure faith, a man who is strong, vital, a man who is extraordinarily intelligent.

The assignment for all of the reporters, of course, is that you start reading all of his books. And instead of guessing at where he stands on the great questions of our time, read what he has to say. He has had a phenomenal output of theology and philosophy and insights into our world, which I believe very soon will come to be known and much admired and create an image of this man that is proper.

All during these days, terribly difficult days for him, when he was leading all of us in the funeral, in the days after the funeral, in the conclave and in this morning's beautiful mass, in all of this time you never thought for one minute that he wasn't in the presence of his God and that he was confident and at peace.

And so I hope that when all of you have finished the "Oprah Omnia (ph)," all the books and all the articles of Cardinal Ratzinger, now Benedict XVI, you will come to know him as I know him, extraordinarily intelligent, very calm and secure in his faith and a wonderful human being. We're very fortunate.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you, your eminence.

We'll now open it to questions.

Mr. Stammer (ph).

QUESTION: All of you to a man in the last day or two have stressed (INAUDIBLE) personal qualities, intellectual qualities and you spoke as a pastoral man, as a man of great knowledge. And you seem to be concerned that there is even a dimensional view of this man out there.

I'm wondering if the reason you are so positive in your assessment is because you were concerned about how Catholics in the United States will receive this new pontiff? And do you see your task, one of your first tasks is to assist him in reinventing himself, not himself, but bringing out the other qualities? Is this important for you to do -- whoever?

CARDINAL ROGER MICHAEL MAHONEY, ARCHBISHOP OF LOS ANGELES: Well since he's from Los Angeles, I'll start the response.

I think that we just have to be very careful about characterizing the Holy Father and very simply putting labels upon this man of the church. I think, as all of us have remarked, he has so many dimensions and so many qualities I pointed out. Some of his finest writings, for me, are his spiritual writings.

And so I think we have to be very careful not to characterize him in certain ways. That is very simple to do. And I've already seen some headlines in our country doing that and I think that's a mistake. We have to get to know this man. And I think the more people know him, as we have, as they will love and appreciate him.

CARDINAL ADAM JOSEPH MAIDA, ARCHBISHOP OF DETROIT: If I could just add a word to that. I believe in the grace of the office. And when God calls us to do His work, He provides us with the grace and the direction and the inspiration. And so it isn't just the man we're talking about, it's how God uses each one of us as his instruments. And I think you'll find in Cardinal Ratzinger a very humble man, a holy man, an instrument of God in this time, in this place in history.

And as has been said by my contraries, I totally believe that just like Karol Wojtyla was called out of the East, this man has been called out of the West to preach a message and to live a life and make a difference in his time that God gives him.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you.

The woman back there, sorry. Please indicate to whom you address your question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Louder.

QUESTION: OK. Noel Knox (ph) with "USA Today." Could you please address the speed of the conclave, the unity in which you reached your decision and the advantages of this cardinal versus a cardinal from the third world?

SISTER MARY ANN: To whom are you addressing your question?

EGAN: Well I'll try to answer. I didn't catch your name, though, and I didn't catch the name of the...

QUESTION: Noel Knox with "USA Today."

EGAN: I'm going to speak louder than you do. I still didn't catch it, but that's all right.

For Catholics, I believe we see the finger of God in the leading of the church and we have to trust that the Lord is in charge. And the choice has clearly been made of Benedict XVI.

And in this world, largely because of the marvels of communication, I believe that the first, second, third and fourth world, are there four, are really one. You made it one. And his message, whether it be to Italy or to the United States of America or to Africa or to South America will be carried by you over the airwaves in your newspaper columns and articles, and you have really made it one world.

On top of that, he will be able to do a lot of traveling. I can't believe that I can get on an airplane and in eight hours find myself in the capital of the world. And I'm sure you all know where that is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Washington.

(LAUGHTER)

EGAN: That's the first piece of disunity in the whole three weeks.

When I first came here in 1954 as a student, I got on a wonderful ship on the west side of Manhattan and spent nine days crossing the ocean. Incidentally, there were nine wonderful days I was hoping that the thing would get stuck in the middle of the ocean. It was such a great trip. But nine days to go back and forth.

Now we can do it in eight-and-a-half hours. And so when we divide the worlds, as you did, and as we all do, I think that those divisions are slipping away. There is really one humanity, just as there is one gospel. And with the cleverness of all of you and the wonder of electronics and communications, I believe that he will be speaking to all four of the worlds, if there are four, certainly to the three.

Is that an OK answer?

Thank you.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you, your eminence.

Cardinal Keeler from Baltimore has just joined us, so I'd like to ask him if he wants to say a few words before we continue with questions.

CARDINAL WILLIAM HENRY KEELER, ARCHBISHOP OF BALTIMORE: Thank you very much, Sister Mary Ann.

These are days of great joy for us, as you can see, as you may already have heard, certainly. And I spoke last night with our people in Baltimore and found that they saw the same joy on the faces of those in the crowd that we saw from the balcony of St. Peter's and that they're sharing in that joy.

Also, I see here Rabbi Bemporad is in the audience. Rabbi Bemporad, would you raise your hand, please, so others can know who you are? He has been a leader in working with us, has been teaching at a couple of the universities here in Rome.

And I know that he knows that we had recently, in Washington, a dialogue on the wonderful statement on the Hebrew scriptures made by the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith and to the leadership of Cardinal Ratzinger. And that Cardinal Ratzinger had written the introduction for that statement. So that offered us, in the United States, an opportunity to move ahead in our dialogue of mutual support and friendship.

Thank you very much for this opportunity.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you.

Continue. Ann Rogers (ph).

QUESTION: Ann Rogers (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?

QUESTION: Question is for Cardinal (INAUDIBLE). (INAUDIBLE) Pope Benedict's address this morning and of his call for dialogue and collegiality and there was some mention of the upcoming synod. This a man who's sort of the public story that is told of his previous work at the Vatican is that it has not been really dialogue oriented, that it was often coming one way. What are your hopes for how you will relate to this pope in discussing the concerns of the church? And what changes do you think might be seen in the upcoming synod?

MCCARRICK: Those are great questions. Let me approach it this way. I think that the vision that some have of the Holy Father as someone who is not a person of dialogue is a skewed vision. I think sometimes when people don't get the answers that they want they say he didn't talk to anybody else, and I think that's not fair.

The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is one of the large congregations. There are bishops from all over the world in it. And they have many consultants from all over the world, too, so that when they come up with a statement, it is not just Cardinal Ratzinger, you know, going into his office and closing the door and writing it. It is something which comes from a lot of people and always has to be in the tradition of the church. And I think he has been so great in both those things.

He's a man who talks to others. As you know, or you may recall, I was involved in the task force on politicians and bishops and worked very closely with Cardinal Ratzinger on a number of occasions. And always -- well, not always -- but almost all the time, and I want to be, give you my honest answer, almost every time I've gone to see him, he's always had a number of people there.

He's always invited people from the congregation, bishops and priests who are expert in these areas, and we've always had a round robin discussion. So that my experience with him is that he has and when I came, he's always had notes that he's taken from other people in the congregation or experts who are asked to comment on it by the congregation. He's always had a wealth of experience, not just his own, before he comes up with an answer. I think he's probably better at that than I am when I deal with answers in Washington sometimes.

But my experience in him has really been a man who consults, a man who reads up on things, a man who does his homework and a man who gets other people to do their homework, too, and comes up with the answer that he and is always an answer. And this is, I think, very clear, and my brother Carlos (ph) said the same thing, he is very much in the tradition of John Paul II. He's very -- and which is the tradition of the church.

He is a follower of the late Holy Father. And not only a follower, but one who with the Holy Father, with John Paul II, worked on the annunciation in modern terms of the doctrines of the church. So I think that when we say that he has that other reputation, we're talking about some of the things that the other cardinals have said, he has this presumed persona that is maybe -- which is, in many cases, not true.

This is a man who does his homework, who asks, who gets other people to work with him. I believe that we will find in the papacy of Benedict XVI a good deal of consultation, a good deal of collegiality and a good deal of making sure that what the church is teaching is in the tradition of our scripture and the works of the fathers. And also, in a very special way, in the tradition of the Second Vatican Council, of which he was one of the parity, as you know, and one of the experts who was there at the time, and someone who has been one of the great exponents of that council.

SISTER MARY ANN: John Allen.

QUESTION: John Allen with the "National Catholic Reporter."

Cardinal George, you mentioned earlier that one of the remarkable things about this election is that in comparison to the conclave of 1978 that elected the Archbishop of Krakow, Karol Wojtyla, is that at that stage in history, in a sense, you can make the argument the primary challenge facing the church came from the East. Whereas today, in a sense, one can make the argument the primary challenge comes from the West.

Of course the hallmark of John Paul II's papacy, at least in the early years, was the struggle against the Soviet dictatorship in Eastern Europe. Now we heard Cardinal Ratzinger, on the morning before the conclave, talk about a dictatorship of relativism in the West. Could we presume that the struggle against the dictatorship of relativism in the West will be, in a sense, the signal defining issue, at least in the early stages of Benedict XVI's pontificate, as that struggle against the Soviet dictatorship was for John Paul II?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't say whether the sequence will be like that. But in fact in the last years of John Paul II's pontificate, he took great pains to show that justice there was a fault line in the Soviet empire that eventually brought it down, a clash of values between the concern for social justice and the suppression of personal freedom in order to attain that goal, which wasn't sustainable.

So also the late pope taught that there is a fault line in our society and our cultures between the concern for personal freedom and an abandonment of objective truth. And that's not sustainable in the long run. And I think that's certainly the opinion of the present Holy Father, as well.

How he chooses to address it or the time, the tempo that he takes in addressing it, I'm not sure. But that's certainly going to be part of his concern as we move forward.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There will be two more questions.

Patricia?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is for Cardinal McCarrick (INAUDIBLE).

Can you just tell me a little bit about the personal interaction you've had with the new pope over the years, how long you've known him and (AUDIO GAP) talked about, it's very strange saying Your Eminence, Your Eminence and then it's your Holy Father.

When you (AUDIO GAP) knelt to him when he was named pope, did he say anything to you?

CARDINAL THOMAS MCCARRICK, ARCHBISHOP OF WASHINGTON: Two questions, two good questions.

I guess I got to know him when he came -- he began to come to the United States a number of times to give talks. And I was still in New York when, the first time he came. So that's more than 25 years ago. And I guess I got to know him then. I had been secretary to Cardinal Cook, as you know. And so when he would come over, the cardinal would be involved with him. And I had the privilege of getting to know him.

Over the years, he was nice enough to recognize me. You know, he would figure out who I was and -- which is always very flattering. You always say wow, you know, he's so much smarter than I am and he knows me. This was all very nice.

So I did have that opportunity. And even the opportunity of listening to him on a number of occasions, not just listening in the formal setting of a lecture, but listening to him in conversation when there might have been just two or three of us around, and of appreciating his extraordinary mind.

One of the cardinals earlier, I think it might have been Cardinal Mahoney, spoke of him not just as a genius -- I think he's a genius -- but not just as a genius, but as a very spiritual man. And I have used some of his books for meditation and, in fact, that's the thing I said to him yesterday. There's a book called "Diener Unserer Freude," "The Servant of our Joy." And it's a very, very, very, very powerful book about the priesthood and about living the life that brings joy because you're trying to live a life of holiness.

And yesterday when I came up to him, I said, "Holy Father, I pray that we will always be the diener euer Freude, that we'll always be the servants of your joy, so that we will bring joy to your life by our fidelity and by our striving always to be in union with you and with our brothers in the church."

I think that that is one of the things that we can offer to the Holy Father, our fidelity, our unity and our willingness to be of service. So that I think that will, hopefully, will be one of the marks of all of us as we deal with the Holy Father.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And our last question, Patricia Montemurri.

PATRICIA MONTEMURRI, "DETROIT FREE PRESS": Patricia Montemurri, "Detroit Free Press."

Can you tell us what you hope the new pope will do to help you in your jobs in terms of attracting new vocations, in terms of staffing understaffed parishes? A lot of you are facing half closed parishes, are facing the decisions to close parishes. What can this pope do to help you in that regard?

And primarily to Cardinal Maida, but I'd appreciate any other insights.

Thank you.

CARDINAL ADAM JOSEPH MAIDA, ARCHBISHOP OF DETROIT: Well, the Holy Father is primarily a servant and he assumes his leadership role as being a servant of the servants of god. And, as such, I believe that in giving himself and setting an example, he will inspire all of us in our activities and he will bring out the best of the human and spiritual qualities that are out there.

And, consequently, I believe that the Holy Father will set a beautiful tone, just as Pope John Paul II, during his papacy, had set a tone and set a legacy of his ability to communicate with people.

So our present Holy Father, Benedict XVI, will be his own man. He will be his own man. He will be his own spiritual, he will be a spiritual guide according to his mode and his humanity. And god will use him as an instrument of grace. And I firmly believe that no matter who we are, if we look through the scriptural stories, god has taken the most unusual people and placed them in places of authority and power, if you will, and he's used them for his purposes.

And so I believe that Cardinal Ratzinger, with all his gifts and talents and even with some of his shortcomings, will somehow be able to reach others because it will be the grace of god that ultimately touches the hearts and minds of people as he does his ministry faithfully, spiritually and religiously.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cardinal McCarrick?

MCCARRICK: I just want to say a word about vocations, because I think that was part of your question.

The fact that the Holy Father, even in his homily at the funeral of the late Pope John Paul II, spoke to ejoveny (ph) -- and, in fact, he got one of his biggest applause when he mentioned that -- the fact that he noticed that they were there, the fact that he's not going to forget this extraordinary gift of the charisma of Pope John Paul II in reaching out to young people, and the fact that today when he spoke with us -- spoke to us, he mentioned, also, that he's definitely going to be with the young people in Cologne in August at World Youth Day.

I think he's very conscious of the need to, not, to continue that bridge between the Holy Father and young people. He'll have a different charisma than J.P. II, obviously. We know that. But I think he will have his own charisma. And the fact that he's interested in doing it, as was shown in the homily of the funeral and also in his talk to us today, I think the young people will recognize that and respond to it. And therefore vocations will be coming from those folks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cardinal Mahoney?

CARDINAL ROGER MICHAEL MAHONEY, ARCHBISHOP OF LOS ANGELES: Yes, I just add to that, as well, every time the election of a new pope, it is a new moment of Pentecost for the church. It's always a time of special grace. And I know as all of us go back to our respective dioceses and countries, we go back filled with a new spirit, a new enthusiasm, a new joy. And I think that that is sensed by our people, as well. So this is a wonderful opportunity to accept those graces and to use them to deal with the issues that we face. I think that will help us move forward with new assurance and new courage.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would any other cardinal want to make a closing statement?

CARDINAL EDWARD MICHAEL EGAN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEW YORK: Well, I'd make a very short one.

Last night we came back here because I wanted an opportunity to speak to the media. And when I walked in, I would say there were somewhere between 40 and 50 young men who are studying here at the Pontifical North American College. And I suspect that most of the media saw this last night.

They were exalted. They were shouting, "Thank you!"

My good friend, Cardinal McCarrick, will forgive me if I bring my own clack. But in any event...

MCCARRICK: You always know how to please the crowd (INAUDIBLE).

EGAN: And so last night I would simply say that -- I'm not exaggerating one minute -- it was exaltation. I lived in this building nine years of my life. I was a repetitor here. I taught theology. They went to hear the Jesuits in the morning and they came to hear me in the afternoon. And I don't know who won in that race, but nonetheless, I loved it here in this wonderful, wonderful seminary.

And last night after the media left, I shook hands with another 50 or so young men and they all told me where they were from. And each and every one of them said to me, "Thank you, thank you, thank you."

And so if you want to know what good is going to come in the vocation area, go right up there to that second floor -- where we were never allowed when I was a student to go before, eh?

When I see that -- only the faculty and Archbishop O'Connor got up there, but I'm glad to see you fellows have made it, eh?

But go and speak to them and I think you'll find out that the vocations are going to do very well.

Thank you.

KELLY WALLACE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And you have been listening to a news conference in Vatican City of U.S. cardinals, some of the American cardinals who took part in the conclave and joined in electing Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany as the new pope.

The targeted audience, it appears, definitely American Catholics. A new poll, 60 percent of American Catholics saying they are unsure yet about the new pope. One of the cardinals, Cardinal Roger Mahoney of Los Angeles, saying be careful about characterizing the Holy Father and simply putting labels on him. He is saying as more people know him, they will come to love him as we do.

Again, a news conference of American cardinals wrapping up in Vatican City.

And you can learn more about the life of the Catholic Church's 265th pope. Just visit cnn.com/pope.

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WALLACE: And welcome back to DAYBREAK.

A vote on John Bolton's nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations is unexpectedly on hold. His confirmation may be in jeopardy. One Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee joined Democrats in calling for the delay. They want another look at allegations of unbecoming conduct by the former State Department official.

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SEN. GEORGE VOINOVICH (R), OHIO: I've heard enough today that I don't feel comfortable about voting for Mr. Bolton. I think one's interpersonal skills and their relationship with their fellow man is a very important ingredient in anyone that works for me. I call it the kitchen test, do we feel comfortable about the kitchen test?

And I've heard enough today that gives me some real concern about Mr. Bolton.

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WALLACE: The White House is continuing to express full support for Bolton's nomination.

Your news, money, weather and sports.

It's about 14 minutes after the hour and here is what is all new this morning.

Pope Benedict XVI says his first challenge as new leader of the Catholic Church is to reunify all Christians. He celebrated his first mass as pope this morning in Vatican City.

In money news, chocolate has a new name, more or less. Hershey Foods has changed its name to the Hershey Company. The subtle name change and logo redesign is part of a corporate makeover that is focused on a more streamlined candy maker.

In culture, 13 films have been chosen to compete for the top spot at the Cannes Film Festival. Among the competing directors will be Jim Jarmusch, Gus Van Sant and Tommy Lee Jones. That festival begins May 11.

In sports, Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers kept their play-off hopes alive with a win over the Boston Celtics. But to advance, the Cavs still need to win their final game and have the New Jersey Nets lose -- Chad, it's always tough when you're counting on another team to lose to get into the playoffs.

MYERS: Yes. When you're not in control of your own destiny.

WALLACE: Correct.

MYERS: Good morning, everybody.

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WALLACE: Well, we are marking the anniversary today of a very tragic event. Six years ago today, two students killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado. And the most recent teen shooting in Minnesota ended with 10 people dead, including the 16-year-old that police say carried out that attack.

So here's the question -- is there a way to reach out to troubled kids who may be on the brink of violence?

Our guest says there is.

Perry Stanley is a clinical psychologist and creator of the Choices program for kids and their families.

Perry Stanley, thanks so much for being with us today.

PERRY STANLEY, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, DIRECTOR, NORTHWOOD HEALTH SYSTEMS: Thank you, Kelly.

WALLACE: So the first question, how do we identify kids who could be troubled and could be at risk of violence?

STANLEY: Well, we at Northwood Health Systems, and we in West Virginia, we have partnered with the Ohio County schools, and together with the school counselors, the schoolteachers, the school principals, we identify children at a very young age, sometimes as young as kindergarten, always in the elementary schools, as our focus.

We're looking for children who have been aggressive, who are fighting, who are disruptive in the classroom, as well as those children who seem to not fit in well with others and show some signs of depression.

WALLACE: What is -- it seems the key to your program, not just identifying kids early, but bringing family, counselors and school officials all together in the effort.

Is that right?

STANLEY: That's right. The family-centered nature of the program, as well as the school based focus of the program, is our key. We have worked with the school counselors to engage the parents. Oftentimes the parents have not had good experiences in school themselves and through working with the school personnel and the families together, we create a support system for these families.

And what we find is that the children find more belonging, more hope and show increased cooperation, both at home and within the schools.

WALLACE: You know, there is a problem you hear from parents over and over again, and that is the issue of bullying, kids that are bullying other kids.

How much of a concern should bullying be in terms of kids that could go on to future, more violent behavior?

STANLEY: I think we need to recognize that bullying doesn't begin overnight, that it's a process that evolves over a period of time. And so that's why we intervene very young and we help these children to develop social skills and we help them to talk about that sense of not fitting in and the anger they feel and how to better cope with that anger and express their feelings.

WALLACE: But you know also it's such a big issue, peer pressure, especially for the littlest ones.

How do you convince kids that it's OK to go ahead and tell school officials or family officials -- family members, rather -- if they're hearing some issues of concern, without being viewed as a snitch by their friends and fellow classmates?

STANLEY: Well, we've actually taken that peer pressure and made it a positive factor. We have children who now tell us, we are third year into this program, that, you know, before they would sit with their backs to the group and now they're telling us that they are being picked on in the playgrounds or in the community. And one of the things that they think about before they act and they make a choice is the thought goes through their head, what would my group members say?

And so we've created this positive norm within the group and the children talk with each other and help each other out.

WALLACE: It's important information and hopefully parents, school officials, other counselors, can learn from the important work that you are doing.

Perry Stanley, thanks so much for being with us, creator of the Choices program for kids and their families.

We appreciate your time and your insights today.

STANLEY: Thank you, Kelly.

WALLACE: Still to come on this Wednesday edition of DAYBREAK, safety in the skies. From knives and guns to fake bombs and more, investigators say there is a lot getting past the screeners. We'll ask what can be done about it.

And wait until you see what some people are buying and selling already one day into the new pope's reign.

That's all when DAYBREAK continues.

Don't go away.

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WALLACE: It is about 23 minutes after the hour.

Time for our usual "Business Buzz."

And in the headlines this morning, the nation's seventh largest carrier, US Airways, is in advance merger talks with America West. US Airways had already filed for bankruptcy twice, so a merger may be what's needed for that airline to survive.

Internet powerhouse Yahoo! has more than doubled its earnings since last year. The company credits advertising sales for pushing first quarter profits to more than $204 million. That's up from about $1 million a year ago.

And online broker Ameritrade says it has lost account information for as many as 200,000 customers. A spokeswoman says it may have happened when a shipper lost tapes with customer data last February.

Time again for a CNN "Security Watch."

Is airline security being compromised by outdated technology?

Well, that's what one new report says. But a change may be coming. The Transportation Security Administration has allocated $30 million for a new program. They're installing 147 special explosive trace detectors at 40 of the nation's busiest airports.

For more on these and other airport security issues, we are joined from Washington by CNN security analyst Clark Kent Ervin, also, former inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security.

Thanks for being with us today.

CLARK KENT ERVIN, CNN SECURITY ANALYST: A pleasure, Kelly.

WALLACE: So here's the question. Our viewers are likely to be outraged when they hear that the screening for weapons, explosives, other dangerous items, no better now than it was a few years ago.

How could that be?

ERVIN: Well, that's right. It's a very disturbing conclusion and it appears as though the recommendations that we made when we last did this testing in '03 weren't fully implemented by TSA. Among those recommendations were the deployment of very sophisticated equipment and technology that can significantly increase screeners' ability to detect these weapons, equipment and technology like multi-view x-ray machines that can rotate bags so that hidden weapons can be discovered; back scatter technology that can see through clothing to see whether any weapons are hidden on the body; and then finally threat image projection software that can all project fake images on the screen, fake bags, so that when real weapons are found in real bags, the screeners can actually find them and discover them.

WALLACE: So what's the holdup? If you know what's needed and we know what equipment is out there, what's the holdup in terms of getting that to the nation's airports?

ERVIN: Well, it's partly a question of money. And that's why the other report that came out from the office of inspector general yesterday about TSA is also troubling. All these issues are interrelated. That report shows that there was about $19 million spent on a state-of-the-art operations center with, for example, half a million dollars spent on art work and silk plants. The more money is spent on things like that, the less money is available to purchase the kind of equipment and technology that can help the screener workforce detect these deadly weapons.

WALLACE: Is this a department in crisis?

ERVIN: There's no question about that. The good news, though, is the new leadership team that's been put in place, Secretary Chertoff and his team, is beginning, I think, to lead the department in the right direction, to focus its resources on the most significant threats that would have the most serious consequences if they were to materialize. And so I'm hopeful that there will be a complete change in culture at the agency that will prevent the recurrence of these kinds of problems.

WALLACE: So much more to talk about, but we have a busy news morning today.

Clark Kent Ervin, former inspector general, Department of Homeland Security, CNN security analyst.

Thanks for being with us today.

ERVIN: Thanks, Kelly.

WALLACE: And, of course, be sure to stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security.

Still to come in the last half hour of DAYBREAK, just a child in 1999. He lost his sister and saw a friend die. Now a young man, this Columbine survivor is sharing his life experiences six years later. You won't want to miss that.

We'll be right back.

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WALLACE: Good Wednesday morning to you.

From the Time Warner Center in New York, I'm Kelly Wallace, in today for Carol Costello.

Here are some stories now in the news.

A historic day. Pope Benedict XVI celebrates his first mass as leader of the Roman Catholic Church and its one billion followers. He expressed feelings of both inadequacy and profound gratitude and asked for prayers.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is in Russia talking about the state of democracy and urging President Putin not to run for a third term. The secretary is preparing for President Bush's visit to Russia next month.

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CONDOLEEZZA RICE, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: So when we have these discussions, they're not in an accusatory way. They're not through a sense of criticism, but rather to try and talk about why democratic progress is so linked to Russia's future development, as well as to the development of U.S.-Russian relations.

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KELLY WALLACE, CNN ANCHOR: Well time now for our DAYBREAK "Eye Openers."
Where else but in Seattle would they hold the world's Barista championships. Coffeemakers from all over the world competed for the king of coffee crown. And that title was taken by a Danish barista who says his secret was using milk he brought with him from Copenhagen.

Now what does this look like to you? For some people in Chicago, it looks like the Virgin Mary has appeared on a wall near the expressway. People took pictures and lit candles around the image they are now calling "Our Lady of the Underpass."

And it is not quite the running of the bulls, but in England they enjoy watching the sheep races. Needless to say, sheep racing was invented after a night of drinking. Yes, that's right.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: That's steeple chasing.

WALLACE: Yes, exactly. Anyway, the sheep and their knitted jockeys trot around the course in search of the food trough. The winner gets an extra portion of whatever it is that sheep eat.

What do they eat -- Chad?

MYERS: Sheep food.

WALLACE: Sheep food. That's good.

And lastly, but not leastly, if that's such a word, for more farm animal fun, how about the Pig Olympics in China. These puny porkers have to make their way over the hurdles, under the water and through the hoops and to grandma's house they go. One race official says the pigs teach children to never give up.

They're so cute.

MYERS: They can swim good, too.

WALLACE: Listen to this one, either that or they just make the kids hungry for a ham sandwich. No.

MYERS: No. Who wrote that?

WALLACE: No. Writers, writers, no.

MYERS: No, no, no, no, maybe some Kung Pao Chicken.

WALLACE: Yes.

MYERS: But certainly not a ham sandwich.

WALLACE: They're too cute to think of that.

All right, Chad, we'll talk to you in a few minutes.

And here is what is all new in the next half-hour of DAYBREAK.

A teacher's good deeds catch the eye of President Bush.

Plus, four young men who take your average pop single and turn it into pure magic.

And a reminder, our e-mail "Question of the Day," do you feel safer flying now than you did before September 11? Send us your e- mail answers at DAYBREAK@CNN.com and we'll let you know what you're saying.

We'll be right back.

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WALLACE: Good morning, and welcome to the second half-hour of DAYBREAK. From the Time Warner Center in New York, I'm Kelly Wallace in for Carol Costello, and along with Chad Myers.

"Now in the News."

Pope Benedict XVI has said his first mass as the new leader of the Roman Catholic Church. The pontiff celebrated mass this morning in the Sistine Chapel where less than a day before the College of Cardinals elected him pope.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says she's making some progress on her trip to Russia. Rice expressed some concern about the state of democracy in Russia and urged President Vladimir Putin to make good on his promise not to run for a third term. The secretary is preparing for President Bush's visit to Russia next month.

The same congressional panel that investigated steroid use in Major League Baseball now wants to grill the NFL. The committee wants to know more about how football players are tested and which drugs they're tested for.

And Michael Jackson says he thinks his child molestation trial is, to use his words, -- quote -- "going well." He made the comment after the fifth day of testimony by the mother of the boy accusing him of abuse. The prosecution expects to wrap up its case next week.

And Chad Myers in Atlanta.

Good morning, again, -- Chad.

MYERS: Good morning, Kelly.

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Back to you -- Kelly.

WALLACE: All right, Chad, we'll talk to you in a few minutes. Thanks so much.

MYERS: You're welcome.

WALLACE: Beneath Michelangelo's scenes from the book of Genesis, the new pope celebrates his first mass in the Sistine Chapel. Certainly Catholics around the world are very interested to learn what the new pope is saying about his aims and his faith.

Let's go live to Rome now and speak with Claudia Lavanga, an Italian journalist with REI Television.

Claudio Lavanga, thanks for joining us. First question to you, how are Italians reacting about this new pope?

CLAUDIO LAVANGA, REI-TV: They're reacting well. They're happy. They would have been happy if the pope was from any other nationality but Italian. They weren't expecting too much of an Italian pope, because they got so used to a non-Italian who speaks Italian and who behaves like an Italian, like John Paul II did.

I mean this is really the heritage that John Paul II left Ratzinger but from the conservative ideas on the doctrine of the faith. And Ratzinger speaks perfect Italian. And he proved that yesterday on the balcony behind me, although with a broken -- well not even a broken accent, with a strong accent, but Italians are used to it. I mean probably if an Italian would have come out on the balcony with an accent from Milan, it would have sounded less familiar than this. So they're happy. They're happy.

WALLACE: All right, Claudio, I want to hold you there, because we want to go now to a news conference that is taking place in Vatican City. And you are listening now to Archbishop Theodore McCarrick, the Archbishop of Washington. These are the American cardinals speaking about what took place in the conclave. Let's listen in.

CARDINAL THEODORE MCCARRICK, ARCHBISHOP OF WASHINGTON: And you're all equals. And you're all, you know, talking eminence this, eminence that or first name, this first name, that. And then suddenly one of them is different, the election is over and there's a Holy Father.

And you know you -- yesterday morning I think many of us had spoke to Cardinal Ratzinger and said your eminence, how are you, or something like that, or had a conversation with him. And then suddenly in the evening he is no longer one of you, he's no longer Cardinal Ratzinger, he's the Holy Father. He's the successor of Peter the Vicar of Christ and he's Pope Benedict XVI.

So it's a wonderful progression of history that we lived through, all of us, during these last few days. And how extraordinarily powerful it is as a witness. This is one of the great democracy of the world, the choice of the Holy Father. And when it is over, we are able to greet him and to say, Holy Father, your holiness, and to know that he has, as we believe, the authority to teach in Jesus' name and the authority to lead the church and to guide the church along the roads that he feels, after prayer, after reflection, after discussion.

And he mentions this a number of times in the talk that Cardinal Mahoney referred to today that he wants to be collegial, he wants the advice of the cardinals, he wants to be talking to the bishops. He will do it in the synod and he will do it on other occasions.

So I think that that, for me, was one of the great things. And I think might be something which you can all hold on to, that suddenly, after an election, there's a big difference in the Holy Father, a big difference in all of us as we relate to him.

SISTER MARY ANN (ph): Thank you, your eminence.

Cardinal Rigali.

CARDINAL RIGALI, ARCHBISHOP OF PHILADELPHIA: Once again...

WALLACE: You are listening to a news conference, U.S. cardinals speaking to reporters in Vatican City. We were just listening to Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, the Archbishop of Washington. Some 11 American cardinals, we understand, voted in the conclave selecting Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany as the new pope.

We were talking with our guest, Claudio Lavanga, Italian journalist with REI-TV.

And, Claudio, let me ask you, because in the United States polls are showing that American Catholics somewhat concerned about the conservative views of the new pope. Some were wanting a more liberal approach, a more moderate approach. What are you picking up when you look at how Italians are feeling in that regard?

LAVANGA: Italians feel exactly the same, especially because John Paul II reached out to so many youth that it was actually the youth that had more expectations of who the next pope was. And although Ratzinger is very popular, I mean they are, of course, concerned of the fact that he has this very conservative take on issues like homosexuality, celibacy and the ordination of women.

But everybody understands, also, and everybody thinks that this is a transition period. I mean they have elected the cardinal it looks like to fix all the problems of the church. And they delayed and they postponed these other issues of more progressive take for the next pope, which you know probably will come in a few years. And while I hope for Cardinal Ratzinger to live as long as he can, but he's also 78, that's why they think it's a transition period. So let's say that the issue is postponed.

WALLACE: Let me ask you also, Claudio, no disappointment, because, as you were mentioning at the top of our conversation, there were some cardinals, Italian cardinals sort of on any short list as possible candidates to become new pope? You detecting any disappointment at all on the part of Italians?

LAVANGA: Well the Italians, you know, have the biggest group for any nation. Of course in the conclave they're 20. At the beginning, they were talking about two big sides, and the one side was Ratzinger. The one side was Martini who was going for Cardinal Tettamanzi.

Now it looks like that have been voted -- having been elected so quickly, the Italians have changed their mind and they have seen in Ratzinger the best person to lead the church. So this is not really defeat for the Italian cardinals, this is just what they also think is the best choice.

WALLACE: All right. Claudio Lavanga, joining us this morning from Rome, we appreciate it.

We want to take you back live now to that news conference under way. American cardinals speaking out. You're listening now to Cardinal Rigali, Archbishop of Philadelphia. Let's listen in.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you, your eminence.

Cardinal Egan, could you give us a few words, please?

CARDINAL EDWARD MICHAEL EGAN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEW YORK: I do. And I want to start by thanking the media for your extraordinary kindness over these last several weeks. As I read the newspapers and when I was watching television and listening to the radio, I thought that your insights and your understanding and your kindness was extraordinary. And I'm very, very grateful for this.

I have known this wonderful Holy Father for a large number of years, a long number of years. I mentioned last night when we had a press conference that he was extraordinarily kind to me when I was leaving Rome in 1985. I had been working here in the Coria (ph) for 14 years and I was going back to New York as an auxiliary bishop to my predecessor John Cardinal O'Connor.

I had done some work for the office, which the Holy Father then headed, but I had not certainly been someone who was in regular involvement with him. Nonetheless, on a Friday night, his secretary called me up and said that the cardinal was on retreat but he was coming back to Rome on Saturday morning to say goodbye. And I was shocked. I said, well please don't have him do that, that's not necessary at all. He said, well, he's going to do it.

And so on a bright sunny May morning I went over to his office. And he was sitting there in his black hassock, and he said I just didn't want you to leave without saying goodbye. And I believe that that is a characteristic that you will come to know in him as the months and the years pass. He's a man of calm, a man of secure faith, a man who is strong, vital, a man who is extraordinarily intelligent.

The assignment for all of the reporters, of course, is that you start reading all of his books. And instead of guessing at where he stands on the great questions of our time, read what he has to say. He has had a phenomenal output of theology and philosophy and insights into our world, which I believe very soon will come to be known and much admired and create an image of this man that is proper.

All during these days, terribly difficult days for him, when he was leading all of us in the funeral, in the days after the funeral, in the conclave and in this morning's beautiful mass, in all of this time you never thought for one minute that he wasn't in the presence of his God and that he was confident and at peace.

And so I hope that when all of you have finished the "Oprah Omnia (ph)," all the books and all the articles of Cardinal Ratzinger, now Benedict XVI, you will come to know him as I know him, extraordinarily intelligent, very calm and secure in his faith and a wonderful human being. We're very fortunate.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you, your eminence.

We'll now open it to questions.

Mr. Stammer (ph).

QUESTION: All of you to a man in the last day or two have stressed (INAUDIBLE) personal qualities, intellectual qualities and you spoke as a pastoral man, as a man of great knowledge. And you seem to be concerned that there is even a dimensional view of this man out there.

I'm wondering if the reason you are so positive in your assessment is because you were concerned about how Catholics in the United States will receive this new pontiff? And do you see your task, one of your first tasks is to assist him in reinventing himself, not himself, but bringing out the other qualities? Is this important for you to do -- whoever?

CARDINAL ROGER MICHAEL MAHONEY, ARCHBISHOP OF LOS ANGELES: Well since he's from Los Angeles, I'll start the response.

I think that we just have to be very careful about characterizing the Holy Father and very simply putting labels upon this man of the church. I think, as all of us have remarked, he has so many dimensions and so many qualities I pointed out. Some of his finest writings, for me, are his spiritual writings.

And so I think we have to be very careful not to characterize him in certain ways. That is very simple to do. And I've already seen some headlines in our country doing that and I think that's a mistake. We have to get to know this man. And I think the more people know him, as we have, as they will love and appreciate him.

CARDINAL ADAM JOSEPH MAIDA, ARCHBISHOP OF DETROIT: If I could just add a word to that. I believe in the grace of the office. And when God calls us to do His work, He provides us with the grace and the direction and the inspiration. And so it isn't just the man we're talking about, it's how God uses each one of us as his instruments. And I think you'll find in Cardinal Ratzinger a very humble man, a holy man, an instrument of God in this time, in this place in history.

And as has been said by my contraries, I totally believe that just like Karol Wojtyla was called out of the East, this man has been called out of the West to preach a message and to live a life and make a difference in his time that God gives him.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you.

The woman back there, sorry. Please indicate to whom you address your question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Louder.

QUESTION: OK. Noel Knox (ph) with "USA Today." Could you please address the speed of the conclave, the unity in which you reached your decision and the advantages of this cardinal versus a cardinal from the third world?

SISTER MARY ANN: To whom are you addressing your question?

EGAN: Well I'll try to answer. I didn't catch your name, though, and I didn't catch the name of the...

QUESTION: Noel Knox with "USA Today."

EGAN: I'm going to speak louder than you do. I still didn't catch it, but that's all right.

For Catholics, I believe we see the finger of God in the leading of the church and we have to trust that the Lord is in charge. And the choice has clearly been made of Benedict XVI.

And in this world, largely because of the marvels of communication, I believe that the first, second, third and fourth world, are there four, are really one. You made it one. And his message, whether it be to Italy or to the United States of America or to Africa or to South America will be carried by you over the airwaves in your newspaper columns and articles, and you have really made it one world.

On top of that, he will be able to do a lot of traveling. I can't believe that I can get on an airplane and in eight hours find myself in the capital of the world. And I'm sure you all know where that is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Washington.

(LAUGHTER)

EGAN: That's the first piece of disunity in the whole three weeks.

When I first came here in 1954 as a student, I got on a wonderful ship on the west side of Manhattan and spent nine days crossing the ocean. Incidentally, there were nine wonderful days I was hoping that the thing would get stuck in the middle of the ocean. It was such a great trip. But nine days to go back and forth.

Now we can do it in eight-and-a-half hours. And so when we divide the worlds, as you did, and as we all do, I think that those divisions are slipping away. There is really one humanity, just as there is one gospel. And with the cleverness of all of you and the wonder of electronics and communications, I believe that he will be speaking to all four of the worlds, if there are four, certainly to the three.

Is that an OK answer?

Thank you.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you, your eminence.

Cardinal Keeler from Baltimore has just joined us, so I'd like to ask him if he wants to say a few words before we continue with questions.

CARDINAL WILLIAM HENRY KEELER, ARCHBISHOP OF BALTIMORE: Thank you very much, Sister Mary Ann.

These are days of great joy for us, as you can see, as you may already have heard, certainly. And I spoke last night with our people in Baltimore and found that they saw the same joy on the faces of those in the crowd that we saw from the balcony of St. Peter's and that they're sharing in that joy.

Also, I see here Rabbi Bemporad is in the audience. Rabbi Bemporad, would you raise your hand, please, so others can know who you are? He has been a leader in working with us, has been teaching at a couple of the universities here in Rome.

And I know that he knows that we had recently, in Washington, a dialogue on the wonderful statement on the Hebrew scriptures made by the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith and to the leadership of Cardinal Ratzinger. And that Cardinal Ratzinger had written the introduction for that statement. So that offered us, in the United States, an opportunity to move ahead in our dialogue of mutual support and friendship.

Thank you very much for this opportunity.

SISTER MARY ANN: Thank you.

Continue. Ann Rogers (ph).

QUESTION: Ann Rogers (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?

QUESTION: Question is for Cardinal (INAUDIBLE). (INAUDIBLE) Pope Benedict's address this morning and of his call for dialogue and collegiality and there was some mention of the upcoming synod. This a man who's sort of the public story that is told of his previous work at the Vatican is that it has not been really dialogue oriented, that it was often coming one way. What are your hopes for how you will relate to this pope in discussing the concerns of the church? And what changes do you think might be seen in the upcoming synod?

MCCARRICK: Those are great questions. Let me approach it this way. I think that the vision that some have of the Holy Father as someone who is not a person of dialogue is a skewed vision. I think sometimes when people don't get the answers that they want they say he didn't talk to anybody else, and I think that's not fair.

The Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith is one of the large congregations. There are bishops from all over the world in it. And they have many consultants from all over the world, too, so that when they come up with a statement, it is not just Cardinal Ratzinger, you know, going into his office and closing the door and writing it. It is something which comes from a lot of people and always has to be in the tradition of the church. And I think he has been so great in both those things.

He's a man who talks to others. As you know, or you may recall, I was involved in the task force on politicians and bishops and worked very closely with Cardinal Ratzinger on a number of occasions. And always -- well, not always -- but almost all the time, and I want to be, give you my honest answer, almost every time I've gone to see him, he's always had a number of people there.

He's always invited people from the congregation, bishops and priests who are expert in these areas, and we've always had a round robin discussion. So that my experience with him is that he has and when I came, he's always had notes that he's taken from other people in the congregation or experts who are asked to comment on it by the congregation. He's always had a wealth of experience, not just his own, before he comes up with an answer. I think he's probably better at that than I am when I deal with answers in Washington sometimes.

But my experience in him has really been a man who consults, a man who reads up on things, a man who does his homework and a man who gets other people to do their homework, too, and comes up with the answer that he and is always an answer. And this is, I think, very clear, and my brother Carlos (ph) said the same thing, he is very much in the tradition of John Paul II. He's very -- and which is the tradition of the church.

He is a follower of the late Holy Father. And not only a follower, but one who with the Holy Father, with John Paul II, worked on the annunciation in modern terms of the doctrines of the church. So I think that when we say that he has that other reputation, we're talking about some of the things that the other cardinals have said, he has this presumed persona that is maybe -- which is, in many cases, not true.

This is a man who does his homework, who asks, who gets other people to work with him. I believe that we will find in the papacy of Benedict XVI a good deal of consultation, a good deal of collegiality and a good deal of making sure that what the church is teaching is in the tradition of our scripture and the works of the fathers. And also, in a very special way, in the tradition of the Second Vatican Council, of which he was one of the parity, as you know, and one of the experts who was there at the time, and someone who has been one of the great exponents of that council.

SISTER MARY ANN: John Allen.

QUESTION: John Allen with the "National Catholic Reporter."

Cardinal George, you mentioned earlier that one of the remarkable things about this election is that in comparison to the conclave of 1978 that elected the Archbishop of Krakow, Karol Wojtyla, is that at that stage in history, in a sense, you can make the argument the primary challenge facing the church came from the East. Whereas today, in a sense, one can make the argument the primary challenge comes from the West.

Of course the hallmark of John Paul II's papacy, at least in the early years, was the struggle against the Soviet dictatorship in Eastern Europe. Now we heard Cardinal Ratzinger, on the morning before the conclave, talk about a dictatorship of relativism in the West. Could we presume that the struggle against the dictatorship of relativism in the West will be, in a sense, the signal defining issue, at least in the early stages of Benedict XVI's pontificate, as that struggle against the Soviet dictatorship was for John Paul II?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't say whether the sequence will be like that. But in fact in the last years of John Paul II's pontificate, he took great pains to show that justice there was a fault line in the Soviet empire that eventually brought it down, a clash of values between the concern for social justice and the suppression of personal freedom in order to attain that goal, which wasn't sustainable.

So also the late pope taught that there is a fault line in our society and our cultures between the concern for personal freedom and an abandonment of objective truth. And that's not sustainable in the long run. And I think that's certainly the opinion of the present Holy Father, as well.

How he chooses to address it or the time, the tempo that he takes in addressing it, I'm not sure. But that's certainly going to be part of his concern as we move forward.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There will be two more questions.

Patricia?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is for Cardinal McCarrick (INAUDIBLE).

Can you just tell me a little bit about the personal interaction you've had with the new pope over the years, how long you've known him and (AUDIO GAP) talked about, it's very strange saying Your Eminence, Your Eminence and then it's your Holy Father.

When you (AUDIO GAP) knelt to him when he was named pope, did he say anything to you?

CARDINAL THOMAS MCCARRICK, ARCHBISHOP OF WASHINGTON: Two questions, two good questions.

I guess I got to know him when he came -- he began to come to the United States a number of times to give talks. And I was still in New York when, the first time he came. So that's more than 25 years ago. And I guess I got to know him then. I had been secretary to Cardinal Cook, as you know. And so when he would come over, the cardinal would be involved with him. And I had the privilege of getting to know him.

Over the years, he was nice enough to recognize me. You know, he would figure out who I was and -- which is always very flattering. You always say wow, you know, he's so much smarter than I am and he knows me. This was all very nice.

So I did have that opportunity. And even the opportunity of listening to him on a number of occasions, not just listening in the formal setting of a lecture, but listening to him in conversation when there might have been just two or three of us around, and of appreciating his extraordinary mind.

One of the cardinals earlier, I think it might have been Cardinal Mahoney, spoke of him not just as a genius -- I think he's a genius -- but not just as a genius, but as a very spiritual man. And I have used some of his books for meditation and, in fact, that's the thing I said to him yesterday. There's a book called "Diener Unserer Freude," "The Servant of our Joy." And it's a very, very, very, very powerful book about the priesthood and about living the life that brings joy because you're trying to live a life of holiness.

And yesterday when I came up to him, I said, "Holy Father, I pray that we will always be the diener euer Freude, that we'll always be the servants of your joy, so that we will bring joy to your life by our fidelity and by our striving always to be in union with you and with our brothers in the church."

I think that that is one of the things that we can offer to the Holy Father, our fidelity, our unity and our willingness to be of service. So that I think that will, hopefully, will be one of the marks of all of us as we deal with the Holy Father.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And our last question, Patricia Montemurri.

PATRICIA MONTEMURRI, "DETROIT FREE PRESS": Patricia Montemurri, "Detroit Free Press."

Can you tell us what you hope the new pope will do to help you in your jobs in terms of attracting new vocations, in terms of staffing understaffed parishes? A lot of you are facing half closed parishes, are facing the decisions to close parishes. What can this pope do to help you in that regard?

And primarily to Cardinal Maida, but I'd appreciate any other insights.

Thank you.

CARDINAL ADAM JOSEPH MAIDA, ARCHBISHOP OF DETROIT: Well, the Holy Father is primarily a servant and he assumes his leadership role as being a servant of the servants of god. And, as such, I believe that in giving himself and setting an example, he will inspire all of us in our activities and he will bring out the best of the human and spiritual qualities that are out there.

And, consequently, I believe that the Holy Father will set a beautiful tone, just as Pope John Paul II, during his papacy, had set a tone and set a legacy of his ability to communicate with people.

So our present Holy Father, Benedict XVI, will be his own man. He will be his own man. He will be his own spiritual, he will be a spiritual guide according to his mode and his humanity. And god will use him as an instrument of grace. And I firmly believe that no matter who we are, if we look through the scriptural stories, god has taken the most unusual people and placed them in places of authority and power, if you will, and he's used them for his purposes.

And so I believe that Cardinal Ratzinger, with all his gifts and talents and even with some of his shortcomings, will somehow be able to reach others because it will be the grace of god that ultimately touches the hearts and minds of people as he does his ministry faithfully, spiritually and religiously.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cardinal McCarrick?

MCCARRICK: I just want to say a word about vocations, because I think that was part of your question.

The fact that the Holy Father, even in his homily at the funeral of the late Pope John Paul II, spoke to ejoveny (ph) -- and, in fact, he got one of his biggest applause when he mentioned that -- the fact that he noticed that they were there, the fact that he's not going to forget this extraordinary gift of the charisma of Pope John Paul II in reaching out to young people, and the fact that today when he spoke with us -- spoke to us, he mentioned, also, that he's definitely going to be with the young people in Cologne in August at World Youth Day.

I think he's very conscious of the need to, not, to continue that bridge between the Holy Father and young people. He'll have a different charisma than J.P. II, obviously. We know that. But I think he will have his own charisma. And the fact that he's interested in doing it, as was shown in the homily of the funeral and also in his talk to us today, I think the young people will recognize that and respond to it. And therefore vocations will be coming from those folks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cardinal Mahoney?

CARDINAL ROGER MICHAEL MAHONEY, ARCHBISHOP OF LOS ANGELES: Yes, I just add to that, as well, every time the election of a new pope, it is a new moment of Pentecost for the church. It's always a time of special grace. And I know as all of us go back to our respective dioceses and countries, we go back filled with a new spirit, a new enthusiasm, a new joy. And I think that that is sensed by our people, as well. So this is a wonderful opportunity to accept those graces and to use them to deal with the issues that we face. I think that will help us move forward with new assurance and new courage.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would any other cardinal want to make a closing statement?

CARDINAL EDWARD MICHAEL EGAN, ARCHBISHOP OF NEW YORK: Well, I'd make a very short one.

Last night we came back here because I wanted an opportunity to speak to the media. And when I walked in, I would say there were somewhere between 40 and 50 young men who are studying here at the Pontifical North American College. And I suspect that most of the media saw this last night.

They were exalted. They were shouting, "Thank you!"

My good friend, Cardinal McCarrick, will forgive me if I bring my own clack. But in any event...

MCCARRICK: You always know how to please the crowd (INAUDIBLE).

EGAN: And so last night I would simply say that -- I'm not exaggerating one minute -- it was exaltation. I lived in this building nine years of my life. I was a repetitor here. I taught theology. They went to hear the Jesuits in the morning and they came to hear me in the afternoon. And I don't know who won in that race, but nonetheless, I loved it here in this wonderful, wonderful seminary.

And last night after the media left, I shook hands with another 50 or so young men and they all told me where they were from. And each and every one of them said to me, "Thank you, thank you, thank you."

And so if you want to know what good is going to come in the vocation area, go right up there to that second floor -- where we were never allowed when I was a student to go before, eh?

When I see that -- only the faculty and Archbishop O'Connor got up there, but I'm glad to see you fellows have made it, eh?

But go and speak to them and I think you'll find out that the vocations are going to do very well.

Thank you.

KELLY WALLACE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And you have been listening to a news conference in Vatican City of U.S. cardinals, some of the American cardinals who took part in the conclave and joined in electing Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger of Germany as the new pope.

The targeted audience, it appears, definitely American Catholics. A new poll, 60 percent of American Catholics saying they are unsure yet about the new pope. One of the cardinals, Cardinal Roger Mahoney of Los Angeles, saying be careful about characterizing the Holy Father and simply putting labels on him. He is saying as more people know him, they will come to love him as we do.

Again, a news conference of American cardinals wrapping up in Vatican City.

And you can learn more about the life of the Catholic Church's 265th pope. Just visit cnn.com/pope.

This is DAYBREAK for a Wednesday morning.

We'll be right back.

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WALLACE: And welcome back to DAYBREAK.

A vote on John Bolton's nomination to be ambassador to the United Nations is unexpectedly on hold. His confirmation may be in jeopardy. One Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee joined Democrats in calling for the delay. They want another look at allegations of unbecoming conduct by the former State Department official.

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SEN. GEORGE VOINOVICH (R), OHIO: I've heard enough today that I don't feel comfortable about voting for Mr. Bolton. I think one's interpersonal skills and their relationship with their fellow man is a very important ingredient in anyone that works for me. I call it the kitchen test, do we feel comfortable about the kitchen test?

And I've heard enough today that gives me some real concern about Mr. Bolton.

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WALLACE: The White House is continuing to express full support for Bolton's nomination.

Your news, money, weather and sports.

It's about 14 minutes after the hour and here is what is all new this morning.

Pope Benedict XVI says his first challenge as new leader of the Catholic Church is to reunify all Christians. He celebrated his first mass as pope this morning in Vatican City.

In money news, chocolate has a new name, more or less. Hershey Foods has changed its name to the Hershey Company. The subtle name change and logo redesign is part of a corporate makeover that is focused on a more streamlined candy maker.

In culture, 13 films have been chosen to compete for the top spot at the Cannes Film Festival. Among the competing directors will be Jim Jarmusch, Gus Van Sant and Tommy Lee Jones. That festival begins May 11.

In sports, Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers kept their play-off hopes alive with a win over the Boston Celtics. But to advance, the Cavs still need to win their final game and have the New Jersey Nets lose -- Chad, it's always tough when you're counting on another team to lose to get into the playoffs.

MYERS: Yes. When you're not in control of your own destiny.

WALLACE: Correct.

MYERS: Good morning, everybody.

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WALLACE: Well, we are marking the anniversary today of a very tragic event. Six years ago today, two students killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado. And the most recent teen shooting in Minnesota ended with 10 people dead, including the 16-year-old that police say carried out that attack.

So here's the question -- is there a way to reach out to troubled kids who may be on the brink of violence?

Our guest says there is.

Perry Stanley is a clinical psychologist and creator of the Choices program for kids and their families.

Perry Stanley, thanks so much for being with us today.

PERRY STANLEY, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, DIRECTOR, NORTHWOOD HEALTH SYSTEMS: Thank you, Kelly.

WALLACE: So the first question, how do we identify kids who could be troubled and could be at risk of violence?

STANLEY: Well, we at Northwood Health Systems, and we in West Virginia, we have partnered with the Ohio County schools, and together with the school counselors, the schoolteachers, the school principals, we identify children at a very young age, sometimes as young as kindergarten, always in the elementary schools, as our focus.

We're looking for children who have been aggressive, who are fighting, who are disruptive in the classroom, as well as those children who seem to not fit in well with others and show some signs of depression.

WALLACE: What is -- it seems the key to your program, not just identifying kids early, but bringing family, counselors and school officials all together in the effort.

Is that right?

STANLEY: That's right. The family-centered nature of the program, as well as the school based focus of the program, is our key. We have worked with the school counselors to engage the parents. Oftentimes the parents have not had good experiences in school themselves and through working with the school personnel and the families together, we create a support system for these families.

And what we find is that the children find more belonging, more hope and show increased cooperation, both at home and within the schools.

WALLACE: You know, there is a problem you hear from parents over and over again, and that is the issue of bullying, kids that are bullying other kids.

How much of a concern should bullying be in terms of kids that could go on to future, more violent behavior?

STANLEY: I think we need to recognize that bullying doesn't begin overnight, that it's a process that evolves over a period of time. And so that's why we intervene very young and we help these children to develop social skills and we help them to talk about that sense of not fitting in and the anger they feel and how to better cope with that anger and express their feelings.

WALLACE: But you know also it's such a big issue, peer pressure, especially for the littlest ones.

How do you convince kids that it's OK to go ahead and tell school officials or family officials -- family members, rather -- if they're hearing some issues of concern, without being viewed as a snitch by their friends and fellow classmates?

STANLEY: Well, we've actually taken that peer pressure and made it a positive factor. We have children who now tell us, we are third year into this program, that, you know, before they would sit with their backs to the group and now they're telling us that they are being picked on in the playgrounds or in the community. And one of the things that they think about before they act and they make a choice is the thought goes through their head, what would my group members say?

And so we've created this positive norm within the group and the children talk with each other and help each other out.

WALLACE: It's important information and hopefully parents, school officials, other counselors, can learn from the important work that you are doing.

Perry Stanley, thanks so much for being with us, creator of the Choices program for kids and their families.

We appreciate your time and your insights today.

STANLEY: Thank you, Kelly.

WALLACE: Still to come on this Wednesday edition of DAYBREAK, safety in the skies. From knives and guns to fake bombs and more, investigators say there is a lot getting past the screeners. We'll ask what can be done about it.

And wait until you see what some people are buying and selling already one day into the new pope's reign.

That's all when DAYBREAK continues.

Don't go away.

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WALLACE: It is about 23 minutes after the hour.

Time for our usual "Business Buzz."

And in the headlines this morning, the nation's seventh largest carrier, US Airways, is in advance merger talks with America West. US Airways had already filed for bankruptcy twice, so a merger may be what's needed for that airline to survive.

Internet powerhouse Yahoo! has more than doubled its earnings since last year. The company credits advertising sales for pushing first quarter profits to more than $204 million. That's up from about $1 million a year ago.

And online broker Ameritrade says it has lost account information for as many as 200,000 customers. A spokeswoman says it may have happened when a shipper lost tapes with customer data last February.

Time again for a CNN "Security Watch."

Is airline security being compromised by outdated technology?

Well, that's what one new report says. But a change may be coming. The Transportation Security Administration has allocated $30 million for a new program. They're installing 147 special explosive trace detectors at 40 of the nation's busiest airports.

For more on these and other airport security issues, we are joined from Washington by CNN security analyst Clark Kent Ervin, also, former inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security.

Thanks for being with us today.

CLARK KENT ERVIN, CNN SECURITY ANALYST: A pleasure, Kelly.

WALLACE: So here's the question. Our viewers are likely to be outraged when they hear that the screening for weapons, explosives, other dangerous items, no better now than it was a few years ago.

How could that be?

ERVIN: Well, that's right. It's a very disturbing conclusion and it appears as though the recommendations that we made when we last did this testing in '03 weren't fully implemented by TSA. Among those recommendations were the deployment of very sophisticated equipment and technology that can significantly increase screeners' ability to detect these weapons, equipment and technology like multi-view x-ray machines that can rotate bags so that hidden weapons can be discovered; back scatter technology that can see through clothing to see whether any weapons are hidden on the body; and then finally threat image projection software that can all project fake images on the screen, fake bags, so that when real weapons are found in real bags, the screeners can actually find them and discover them.

WALLACE: So what's the holdup? If you know what's needed and we know what equipment is out there, what's the holdup in terms of getting that to the nation's airports?

ERVIN: Well, it's partly a question of money. And that's why the other report that came out from the office of inspector general yesterday about TSA is also troubling. All these issues are interrelated. That report shows that there was about $19 million spent on a state-of-the-art operations center with, for example, half a million dollars spent on art work and silk plants. The more money is spent on things like that, the less money is available to purchase the kind of equipment and technology that can help the screener workforce detect these deadly weapons.

WALLACE: Is this a department in crisis?

ERVIN: There's no question about that. The good news, though, is the new leadership team that's been put in place, Secretary Chertoff and his team, is beginning, I think, to lead the department in the right direction, to focus its resources on the most significant threats that would have the most serious consequences if they were to materialize. And so I'm hopeful that there will be a complete change in culture at the agency that will prevent the recurrence of these kinds of problems.

WALLACE: So much more to talk about, but we have a busy news morning today.

Clark Kent Ervin, former inspector general, Department of Homeland Security, CNN security analyst.

Thanks for being with us today.

ERVIN: Thanks, Kelly.

WALLACE: And, of course, be sure to stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security.

Still to come in the last half hour of DAYBREAK, just a child in 1999. He lost his sister and saw a friend die. Now a young man, this Columbine survivor is sharing his life experiences six years later. You won't want to miss that.

We'll be right back.

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WALLACE: Good Wednesday morning to you.

From the Time Warner Center in New York, I'm Kelly Wallace, in today for Carol Costello.

Here are some stories now in the news.

A historic day. Pope Benedict XVI celebrates his first mass as leader of the Roman Catholic Church and its one billion followers. He expressed feelings of both inadequacy and profound gratitude and asked for prayers.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is in Russia talking about the state of democracy and urging President Putin not to run for a third term. The secretary is preparing for President Bush's visit to Russia next month.

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CONDOLEEZZA RICE, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: So when we have these discussions, they're not in an accusatory way. They're not through a sense of criticism, but rather to try and talk about why democratic progress is so linked to Russia's future development, as well as to the development of U.S.-Russian relations.

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