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Should Car Chases Be Televised?; Pitt Opens Up to `GQ`

Aired May 12, 2005 - 19:00:00   ET


A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Closing in on car chase TV.
KARYN BRYANT, CO-HOST: And Brad Pitt on the break-up heard around the world. I`m Karyn Bryant.


BRYANT: Chasing the story. It`s the latest but not the last drama to play out on the highway. Tonight`s we`re asking, should car chases be broadcast live in your living room?

HAMMER: Pitt stop. Brad Pitt opens up like never before about his marriage, the paparazzi and why he says breaking up is beautiful.

BRYANT: Why is Andy Garcia hanging with Picasso?


ANDY GARCIA, "MODIGLIANI": I love you, Pablo. It`s myself I hate.


BRYANT: Andy Garcia paints the picture for us live in the "SHOWBIZ Sitdown."

HAMMER: The big Gunnar. He`s behind some of the hottest bodies in Hollywood. Tonight, fitness trainer to the stars Gunnar Peterson puts our own Brooke Anderson through the paces.

BRYANT: Tonight, in our special series, as "Star Trek" gets set to say good-bye, we say hello to two characters who were a part of the remarkable voyage live.


GEORGE TAKEI, "STAR TREK": I`m George Takei. And if it happened today, it`s on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.


HAMMER: Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer, and you are at the top of the show.

BRYANT: I`m Karyn Bryant. We are live with you from Headline Prime studios in New York City for the next hour.

HAMMER: The thrill, the chase, the speed, the rush. But should it be shown live on TV?

BRYANT: A dramatic car chase in southern California that ended in a fatal shooting is raising new questions tonight about whether such not so trivial pursuits should be televised live. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s David Haffenreffer is here with the story.

DAVID HAFFENREFFER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT: Yes, because it was so graphic, A.J. and Karyn, the car chase that unfolded on live TV last night in southern California and was the talk of the nation today. The chase started after a cop tried to pull over a stolen car. It ended in Long Beach with a dead suspect, and shocked viewers at home watched it all.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You want to get crazy with me?


HAFFENREFFER (voice-over): When we see car chases in movies like "Gone in 60 Seconds," we can`t turn away.




HAFFENREFFER: And when we see a real-life car chase on TV, we can`t turn away, either, even when it ends in real-life bloodshed.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shots are being fired! Shots are being fired!


PROF. ROBERT THOMPSON, SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY: Car chases are inherently dangerous. It`s like the appeal of NASCAR. There is the very real possibility that something really spectacularly awful is going to happen.

HAFFENREFFER: Something awful did happen in this car chase, which LA residents watched live yesterday and the rest of the nation watched repeatedly today on cable news shows.


MILES O`BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: A dramatic end to a high-speed chase...


HAFFENREFFER: It was like something out of a high-octane action movie.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of pedestrians getting in the way-


HAFFENREFFER: An armed man in a stolen car led police on a reckless high-speed chase, it ending when the suspect ditched his car in a restaurant parking lot and ran out holding a gun.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s getting out, and he`s starting to run!


HAFFENREFFER: He was shot once, and again after he apparently reached for another gun.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Something in his hand just dropped out of there!


HAFFENREFFER: We`re freezing the video so that you won`t see the final shot that killed the suspect, but LA residents watched it live, and it`s reigniting a debate about whether TV news outlets should be showing police chases at all.

THOMPSON: Is it important news that we need to have, as citizens? Absolutely not. Is it irresistible to a news organization, so irresistible that they can`t stop themselves?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... to try to get the suspect vehicle to pull over...


HAFFENREFFER: An entire nation stayed glued to their TVs back in 1994 when then murder suspect O.J. Simpson led police in that infamous low-speed car chase. In old movies like "Bullet" and in modern movies like "The Bourne Identity," a good car chase means instant drama and a captive audience. But while running a live car chase on TV has its reward -- namely, ratings -- it also carries a risk.

THOMPSON: The only time when it becomes a little dicey is, in this case, when you`re covering something like this live, you never know what`s going to happen.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need to come out of this shot just a little bit in case shots would be fired here.


HAFFENREFFER: TV outlets do take some measures to make sure nothing too graphic gets on TV, like going to a wide shot when it looks like something`s about to happen.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pull out! Pull out, Mike! Pull out!


HAFFENREFFER: They`re not always fast enough. But even though a deadly chase captured live on TV causes a bit of an outcry, you can bet that you won`t stop seeing car chases on TV.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is it. Stopped traffic.


HAFFENREFFER: And that`s because we won`t stop watching them.

THOMPSON: People tell me, There is a car chase, turn on CNN. And I usually do.


HAFFENREFFER: Some local LA stations chose not to air the chase or its ending live. One news director told "The LA Times" today, quote, "It was apparent to the seasoned eye that it was going to end badly." Karyn back to you.

BRYANT: David Haffenreffer, thanks very much. Now we want to know your thoughts. It`s our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Real-life car chases: Should they be televised live? You can vote at, or if you want to tell us more, e-mail us at We`ll share some of what you had to say later in the show.

HAMMER: Well, tonight, a personal side of Brad Pitt you haven`t heard before. In a shockingly candid and introspective interview in June`s "GQ" magazine, Pitt opens up about his feelings for Jennifer Aniston and why he believes, quote, "Sometimes love just changes shape."


MICHAEL HAINEY, "GQ" MAGAZINE: His marriage with Jennifer was a great thing. I think you`re looking at a couple that just sort of have gone different ways now. He`s still incredibly fond of her, very protective of her. And you know, he`s just called her "My Jen" still, you know?

HAMMER (voice-over): Pitt says there was a certain beauty in his marriage to Aniston, and surprisingly, also in their split. He said, quote, "I`m actually really proud of us. We`ve done it another way. We`ve done it our way, and I love her for that. We`ve kept the love we have for each other." He said he doesn`t see his divorce as a failure, and he thinks that the messiness of life is beautiful. And don`t be fooled by this Hollywood hunk with abs of steel. He may look like a pretty boy, but he`s also pretty down to earth.

HAINEY: You can think of him as a great superstar, as he is, but I also think he`s a real guy. For "GQ" readers, it`s that thing of, you know, he`s 40 years old and he`s in a life transition.

HAMMER: A regular guy in transition, but pretty healthy about everything. He quit smoking, and he told "GQ" magazine he would like to get married again and start a family, but not with just anyone.

HAINEY: The reality is, it`s Brad Pitt, and he lives in Hollywood and he`s a successful guy. And at the end of the day, he`s probably going to have dinner with other celebrities and not you and I.

HAMMER: The hardest part of his life might be the constant stalking by paparazzi, especially in the heat of his divorce, and the constant speculation about his relationship with bombshell Angelina Jolie. But Pitt says he`s learning to live with the paparazzi.

HAINEY: He`s taken to riding a motorcycle now with a helmet on because he can sort of, like, scoot away from them. I think he enjoys sort of losing them and feeling that he`s slipped out of their bounds. So if you see a guy riding around LA with a helmet on, it could be Brad Pitt.


HAMMER: Pitt tells "GQ" magazine things that the tabloids have said during his split with Aniston made him want to punch their lights out. He also says rumors claiming he wanted kids and she didn`t are just totally untrue -- Karyn.

BRYANT: Well, tonight, for the first time, TV sitcom star George Lopez opens up about the kidney transplant that saved his life. The donor, the person who helped save him, his own wife. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was on the set of "The George Lopez Show" back in February, where he seemed to be healthy and in great spirits. But weeks later, Lopez found out his kidneys were failing, and he was rushed to the hospital, where he underwent a kidney transplant. A month later, he tells John Quinones of ABC`s "Primetime Live," he`s now the picture of health.


GEORGE LOPEZ, "THE GEORGE LOPEZ SHOW": John, I feel better than I ever have in my life. It hasn`t even been a month, and I feel alive. I feel as good as I did bad. I mean, it`s unbelievable. Everything has changed. My personality has changed. My appetite has changed. My energy level has changed. I sweat now. I never sweat before. I mean, it`s just amazing.

JOHN QUINONES, "PRIMETIME LIVE": You didn`t want to see life -- continue to live without him or...

ANN LOPEZ, GEORGE`S WIFE: You know, there was no question. I love my husband. And you know, when you`re put in that position where you could possibly lose someone you love, it`s a very easy decision. It is.

QUINONES: She is amazing!

GEORGE LOPEZ: Yes, she is. She`s it, man. She`s it. And she`s been telling me it was -- she was it forever. And I -- you know, it took me a long time to believe it, but she`s right. She is it.

QUINONES: Is there any way you could pay her back?

GEORGE LOPEZ: Just be good to her, you know, and honor her and love her. That`s how I`m going to do it. And buy her a bunch of (DELETED), too. But you know (INAUDIBLE)



BRYANT: Lopez tells ABC he never considered quitting his TV show. He said he was made to do TV and this wasn`t going to stop him. "Primetime Live" airs tonight on ABC.

HAMMER: Well, tonight, everyone is still talking about that security scare in Washington, D.C., where the White House and the Capitol were evacuated after a small plane flew into restricted air space yesterday. TV star Fran Drescher happened to be on Capitol Hill during the evacuation. Drescher, a uterine cancer survivor, was honored by "Capitol File" magazine for lobbying Congress for programs for gynecologic cancers.

Because of the evacuation, Drescher tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, she ended up giving one of her pitches on the street because, like everyone else, Fran ran.


FRAN DRESCHER, IN D.C. DURING EVACUATION: And you know, we`re walking in the street, and there`s a guy with, like, a machine gun in Army boots, and they`re shouting, You got to get across D Street. And I said to my assistant, I have to get out of these heels! Then somebody said to me, There`s Representative Bono. Why don`t you go talk to her now? I went racing across the street. And then within minutes, I was actually doing my advocacy spiel on a street corner.


DRESCHER: Exactly.


HAMMER: Well, terror scares may not be a laughing matter in real life, but when the sun goes down on late-night TV, all bets are off. The late-night talk show hosts had a field day with the evacuation.


JAY LENO, "TONIGHT" SHOW: You know what`s fascinating? And this is absolutely true. During the scare, Vice President Cheney was working in the West Wing, and President Bush was outside riding his bicycle. So it`s a typical day at the White House, really.

DAVE LETTERMAN, "LATE NIGHT WITH DAVID LETTERMAN": So Congress was evacuated, and it caused a 15-minute interruption of getting absolutely nothing accomplished. So that was...

JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW": The important thing is in the three- and-a-half years since 9/11, we`ve made tremendous progress in dealing with these kinds of situations. A new strategy has been implemented. It worked to perfection today. It`s called, "Run for your lives." Run in blind terror! Run without knowing where you`re going! Run as fast and as aimlessly as you can! But oh, for God`s sake, run, you magnificent bastards!


HAMMER: We`ll have more late-night laughs coming up for you in "Laughter Dark" later in the show.

BRYANT: Andy Garcia paints the town -- literally. We`ll explain why Garcia is not suffering for his art when he joins us live for a "SHOWBIZ Sitdown." That`s coming up.

HAMMER: Plus, Gunnar Peterson. Is that the perfect name for a Hollywood personal trainer or what? Coming up, Gunnar shows our Brooke Anderson how the stars stay in red carpet shape.

BRYANT: Also ahead, our special series, "The Final Trek." Two stars who were along for the "Star Trek" voyage join us live.

Now tonight`s "Entertainment Weekly Great American Pop Culture Quiz." In the 1994 film, "Speed," the bus cannot go below how many miles per hour or the bomb will go off? Is it 45, 55, 50 or 60? We`ll be right back with the answer.


BRYANT: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. So again, tonight`s "Entertainment Weekly Great American Pop Culture Quiz." In the 1994 film, "Speed," the bus cannot go below how many miles per hour or the bomb will go off? Is it 45, 55, 50 or 60? The answer is C, 50.

HAMMER: Well, we`re on the "American Idol" home stretch now. Last night was a results show, of course, and one of the final four was sent home.


RYAN SEACREST, "AMERICAN IDOL": Vonzell, you are safe, which means Anthony leaves us tonight on "American Idol."


HAMMER: Millions voted, and last night, Anthony came up short, leaving just three contestants. The final three are Bo, Carrie and Vonzell, and they will all perform next Tuesday. The finale is now just two weeks away.

BRYANT: Well, tonight, in our first "SHOWBIZ Sitdown," Andy Garcia. You know him from memorable films, including "The Untouchables," "When a Man Loves a Woman" and "Ocean`s 11" and "Ocean`s 12." Now he`s starring in "Modigliani." It`s a new movie about the bitter rivalry between Pablo Picasso and painter Amedeo Modigliani.

Andy Garcia joins us live from Los Angeles. Thanks for sitting down with us.

ANDY GARCIA, "MODIGLIANI": You`re welcome.

BRYANT: If you could, a little back story on the relationship between Modigliani and Picasso.

GARCIA: Well, they were contemporaries in the sense that they were both part of this extraordinary gathering of some of the most important artists in the past century, the modernists, in 1920s Paris, when Modigliani actually died at the age of 35. There was -- everybody basically frequented this small area in Paris known as Montmartre and Mont Parnasse. And there was -- you know, in our movie, we sort of depict a healthy love/hate relationship between them.

BRYANT: OK. Great. Well, actually, we`re going to take a look at a clip, and it is setting up that rivalry. So let`s check "Modigliani."


GARCIA: We don`t have to look any further. The future of art is in a woman`s face. Bella! (SPEAKS IN ITALIAN) Tell me, Pablo, how do you make love to a cube?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pablo! Pablo! Pablo!


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pablo! Pablo! Pablo!


BRYANT: So Andy, audiences last saw you in "Ocean`s 12." Obviously, this is a very different movie. What was the appeal of playing Modigliani?

GARCIA: Well, he was an extraordinary figure, you know, and from an actor`s point of view, that`s always very challenging. I mean, he -- he`s one of the most important painters of the last century and -- but what`s curious was that he was sort of legendary before his paintings were legendary. He was known as "the prince of Mont Parnasse," and he had this rather tragic and amazing love story with his wife, Jeanne Hebuterne, who we also depict in the movie. The movie is focused not only on the rivalry between Picasso, but really, his love affair with his wife, Jeanne, who was his muse. And this relationship came to a very tragic end, which I won`t reveal.


GARCIA: And -- so it`s the stuff of very -- it`s a very emotional story and a very emotional film about a rather extraordinary man.

BRYANT: When you look at a film like this about artists, you often see that genius is walking the line with crazy, you know what I mean? Is that still the case in Hollywood today, would you say?

GARCIA: Well, you know, there is a thin line between genius and madness. In our movie, there is quite a deal of -- a great deal of madness in the relationships that we present. And it -- you know, this is a bit of a cliche, but it`s a reason why it`s a cliche. There`s a lot of things that I think -- there`s a saying that once was told to me, there was a very thin line between boyish enthusiasm and megalomania.

BRYANT: Right!

GARCIA: And I think you could say that about many things. You know, in the case of Modigliani, you know, he -- you know, he chose to live his life. He abused himself considerably with drugs and alcohol, and he was -- he had tuberculosis as a young boy and died of tubercular meningitis at the age of 35. So in that short span of time in which he painted, he created some of the most important works in the 20th century. So...

BRYANT: All right.

GARCIA: ... this, to me, is a very curious situation.

BRYANT: Well, people are curious if there is going to be an "Ocean`s 13." Do you know? Can you dish on that a little bit?

GARCIA: I have no lead -- I have no lead on that. I assume, if they want to do it, they won`t call it "13." Maybe they`ll skip a number.

BRYANT: Right. All right. Well, thanks very much for joining us, Andy Garcia. And "Modigliani" opens in Los Angeles tomorrow.

HAMMER: All right, when you see these home makeover shows, it`s only natural to wonder what these guys` own houses look like. Well, mystery solved. We are inside Ty Pennington`s house. That`s coming up in "Thursday In Style."

BRYANT: Plus, on-line music. Suddenly, there are more choices than ever, side by side like peas in an Ipod. We`ll help you sort them out coming up in the "SHOWBIZ Guide."


BRYANT: It`s time now for "Thursday In Style." Tonight, Ty Pennington.

HAMMER: You see him every Sunday night renovating homes on "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." Well, enough of other people`s homes. Here`s an inside look at Ty Pennington at home.


SUBIRA SHAW, "IN STYLE" MAGAZINE: Ty lives with his girlfriend, Dre Bach (ph), in a 1924 art deco-style home near the beach in Los Angeles. The home is very colorful and quirky. It`s filled with his creative touches, like in the entryway, he`s got a radial wall sculpture which he fashioned out of old piano keys.

TY PENNINGTON, "EXTREME MAKEOVER: HOME EDITION": My favorite aspect of the new house is just coming home to it and being able to walk in the door and know you`re home and having a spacious home that`s relaxing and fun that has my color palette in it.

SHAW: The den contains a raggedy rug and two sketches Ty did himself of a beaver and a rooster. Ty says he sees an animal in every human, and as for himself, he`s an otter because he says he`s constantly playing.

PENNINGTON: The bedroom, I think, is one of the most important rooms in your house. Your bedroom should be a place where you can relax, you can chill, and you can really kind of get cozy and finally feel at home. I built a really big bed, and it`s where I feel most comfortable.

SHAW: The living room features a 1924 original fireplace flanked by two vintage guitars, which Ty collects. Also, there`s the media center he designed himself, with a large flat-screen television. Ty jokes that he`s so narcissistic that he wants to see himself huge.

PENNINGTON: I tell you what, there`s no place like home.

SHAW: The modern kitchen has a north-facing door that lets in a lot of light. Also some very bright touches, like the yellow-and-orange stools.

PENNINGTON: Coming into the kitchen is always -- it`s just -- you know, it`s a warm feeling. You get the aromas from whatever`s cooking. And it`s where everybody hangs out. And it`s -- I guess it`s the -- what would you call that, the heart of the house, would be the kitchen. And then, of course, there`s the bathroom, which I love spending time in, as well. But no, I`m kidding!


HAMMER: For more about Ty`s pad, plus some ideas for your own home, you can pick up a copy of this month`s "In Style" magazine. It`s on newsstands now.

BRYANT: They`ve been talking, and we`ve been listening. Now, as we do every night on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the best from today`s talk shows.

HAMMER: Well, of course, it`s prom season, and Ellen has been showing bad prom photos from viewers all week long. So on today`s "Ellen Degeneres Show," Ellen finally revealed her own.


ELLEN DEGENERES, HOST: I`ve said it before. No one leaves the house thinking they look bad. So...


HAMMER: You told me you would wear that dress.

BRYANT: I love that dress! I think it`s fantastic!

HAMMER: Tomorrow, Ellen`s prom date will be a guest on the show.

BRYANT: Well, on "The View," "Saturday Night Live`s" Rachel Dratch was the ideal celebrity guest host.

HAMMER: Right down to her spotless complexion.


BARBARA WALTERS, "THE VIEW": Before we come back for hot topics -- because I`m looking at you and your poitrine -- you have got -- well, I am!




UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, she talks French!


WALTERS: All I wanted to say was that your bosom -- you`ve got the most gorgeous skin.


RACHEL DRATCH, ``SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE": I have skin on my face.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Barbara is not a lesbian. Barbara is not a lesbian.

WALTERS: Thank you!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ask her husbands. They know.


BRYANT: Tomorrow on "The View," "Monster-in-Law`s" Jane Fonda and Jennifer Lopez.

HAMMER: Well, after living long and prospering for 18 years, "Star Trek" is in its final voyage. Two more "Star Trek" stars are joining us live tonight. That`s coming up in our series "The Final Trek."

BRYANT: Back on earth, where gravity is a factor, the stars turn to Gunnar Peterson to help them stay fit. We`ll get some of Gunnar`s secrets coming up.


HAMMER: Tonight, bodies of work. Why Angelina, Jenn and Gwen are getting hot and sweaty with the same guy.

BRYANT: And the final trek, our week long series of "Star Trek" stars past and present live.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi, I`m Kevin. If it happened today, it`s on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.


BRYANT: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 31 minutes past the hour. I`m Karyn Bryant.

HAMMER: I`m AJ Hammer. Here are tonight`s hot headlines. Pitt gets personal. In June`s "GQ" magazine, Pitt speaks candidly about his marriage to Jennifer Anniston and he doesn`t see their impending divorce as a failure. He also adds that the tabloid reports made him want to, quote punch their lights out.

BRYANT: Fran ran. TV star Fran Drescher was on Capitol Hill yesterday during the security care in Washington, D.C. And when told to immediately leave, like everyone else, she ran. Drescher was lobbying Congress for programs for gynecologic cancers.

HAMMER: And chasing chases, last night`s dramatic fatal car chase in southern California, which unfolded on L.A.`s TV stations, is raising questions tonight on whether they should be broadcast live.

BRYANT: And tonight we want to know what you think. It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day, real life car chases. Should they be televised live? Keep voting at and send us your e- mails at We`ll share some of what you had to say at 54 past the hour.

HAMMER: Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Lopez, Gwen Stefani and Matthew McConaughey all have somebody in common and that body helped them get their body. He`s trainer to the stars Gunnar Peterson and he puts SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Brooke Anderson through the paces. She joins us now live from Hollywood to tell us all about it. So Brooke, you still sweating from your big celebrity workout?

BROOKE ANDERSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: AJ, I`m still sweating and I`m still a little bit sore. It was quite the workout when I stopped by Gunnar`s Hollywood hills studio to discover what it takes to get a celebrity body and let me tell you AJ, it is far from glamorous.


ANDERSON: Gunner, I know you`ve shaped some of Hollywood`s best bodies, but I`m hoping you`ll share some of those shapeup secrets with little ol` me.

GUNNAR PETERSON, CELEBRITY TRAINER: Let`s go. I`ll start you with the fundamentals.

ANDERSON: Let`s get to it. I understand you work with Matthew McConaughey to get him ready for his last movie role. Those abs, we`ve all seen him with his shirt off, how do we all get abs like that?

PETERSON: Well abs is a combination of work, diet, hydration -- got to get your water -- and sleep so your body can get rid of the excess body fat that it`s holding. You`re going to take that ball overhead, extend, tag it behind you and then bring it up.

ANDERSON: Like no ab workout I`ve ever done before. The stars have to wear these low cut dresses. I know Hilary Swank at the Oscars had one right down here, her back looked incredible. How do we get the back that looks like that?

PETERSON: You have to work the back. You have to work the shoulders. You want to make sure that you`re challenged by the final repetitions of the set, whether it`s 12, 13, 14, 15 or whether it`s 7, 8, 9, 10, it`s all about form.

ANDERSON: Quality over quantity, got it. Gwen Stefani, I know you work with her. She`s got some of the best legs in the business. How can I get some legs and glutes like that?

PETERSON: First I`ll turn it on so you can feel it, but then I`m going to give you a bar bell. No, no, no. Can you imagine, she boards the plane and walks right into the cockpit and starts pushing buttons.


PETERSON: Stairs are your friend.

ANDERSON: Stairs are our friend.

PETERSON: And stairs are your friend by the way in real life, too.

ANDERSON: Bottom line, there`s no secret. There`s no five minute or 10 minute secret workout that can whip you into shape.

PETERSON: Yeah. Kind of boring, huh? Not too sexy.

ANDERSON: Thanks for having us. I appreciate it. It was fun.

PETERSON: Look at the improvements.

ANDERSON: Already.

PETERSON: Already.


ANDERSON: Gunnar told me the key to getting that rock hard body is simply hard work. He said Matthew McConaughey and Penelope Cruz were going in for workouts with him three and four times a week before they filmed "Sahara." Gunnar has also written his first book about fitness. It`s titled "G Force" and it`s on sale now. AJ.

HAMMER: A lot of hard work and you got to avoid the bacon double cheeseburgers, too Brooke, right?

ANDERSON: Absolutely. You have to have good nutrition and a good diet as well. It`s all in variety and how you keep up with it.

HAMMER: Well, you`ve earned yourself a yogurt. Go have one. Thanks a look, Brooke Anderson joining us from Hollywood. You can catch more celebrity fitness tips on HOUSE CALL with CNN medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta. That airs on May 28 and 29 at 8:30 a.m. Eastern on CNN.

BRYANT: From ship-shape to a star ship. It`s the final trek for "Star Trek" and we have interviews with the stars. Find out who we`ve got tonight next. And here`s a hint. Think visions of rainbows.

HAMMER: And another player in the online music battle. Where should you spend your digital dollars? That`s coming up in "the showbiz guide."


BRYANT: Tonight, another showbiz sit down. It is part of our week long final trek series. After this Friday when "Star Trek" ENTERPRISE signs off, it will be the first time in 18 years that no new episodes of "Star Trek" will be on television. As of now there are no new movies in the works either.

HAMMER: So all this week of course we`ve been bringing you interviews with "Star Trek" stars past and present spanning the last 40 years. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s David Haffenreffer is back here with us comfortably ensconced on the bridge of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with tonight`s final trek.

HAFFENREFFER: Just two days left. It`s been a busy week. In all, there have been six "Star Trek" television series, including the animated series of course. Two actors who have been "Star Trek" crew members aboard federation starships are Levar Burton who played Lt. Commander Jordy Laforge in "Star Trek: The Next Generation," and Robert Picardo, the holographic doctor on "Star Trek: Voyager." Both we should tell you have permission to beam aboard SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. They join us now live from Hollywood. Gentlemen, welcome to the program.

LEVAR BURTON, LAFORGE ON "STAR TREK: TNG": Thanks for having us.

HAFFENREFFER: Levar, I`ve got a 3-year-old son at home so I know you from PBS`s reading rainbow, of course. It`s a TV show that helps to sort of explain the importance of reading for children these days. Tell us a little bit about what children might take away from "Star Trek" when it comes to reading and getting smarter.

BURTON: Well, that`s a great question because I was a science fiction fan as a kid. I read a lot of science fiction novels and there weren`t often heroes in the pages of those novels who looked like me so Gene Roddenberry`s vision of the future was one that was very inclusive. Gene coined a phrase, infinite diversity in infinite combination. There was inherently a respect for all life forms that were encountered in "Star Trek". And so I think that`s a pretty strong message right there.

HAFFENREFFER: Robert, aside from "Voyager," you`ve got a real interest on a personal level on the subject of space. Tell us a little bit about how you have explored that aspect of your life and what it was that sort of piqued your interest.

ROBERT PICARDO, DOCTOR ON "STAR TREK: VOYAGER": My involvement with "Star Trek" got me involved with a wonderful organization called the Planetary Society, a non-profit that encourages our exploration of space and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. It`s a great organization. I encourage everyone to go to and at the various Planetary Society events, I`ve been struck with the number of scientists and engineers who are engaged in space exploration who thank us, the "Star Trek" actors, for inspiring them when they were young to pursue their own interests in science and space.

BURTON: I was at NASA just last week. And, you`re right, Bob. All of those people are wildly excited about that which we do, and which is kind of bizarre, because, you know, we worship these people who put their lives on the line and are actually doing for real what we`re only imaging that we do on television.

HAFFENREFFER: It`s an interesting way that sort of ripple effects out to the fan base out there. Levar, tell us a little bit about what it was like for you to walk onto the "Star Trek" set as a director rather than an actor. You have directed as well.

BURTON: Yeah. You know, the "Star Trek" family is exactly that, a family. And whenever one of us had done the required study, had gone to school and looked at the job of director from every conceivable angle -- editing, post production, preproduction -- whenever you stepped across that line and sat in the director`s chair, there was a net of family support around you. Of course, whether you got another shot to do that really depended upon how well you did the first time out. But the net of support, the family that is involved in making this show, some of them have been there for 18 years. And it`s just -- it sort of - that`s the part about this that I will miss most is the family being together on a daily basis.

HAFFENREFFER: Indeed. Bob, you`ve played a lot of doctors in your career. "China Beach," you played a doctor, "Star Trek", of course a doctor as well. There`s even word that you had planned on being a doctor when you were younger as well, so sort of a thought-provoking question here for you. What do you remember curing in your role in "Star Trek" that if you were a doctor today you would like to cure?

PICARDO: Male pattern baldness, was the greatest challenge that I tried to address in -- but apparently in the 24th century, there`s no more Rogaine. I think it`s just wiped out somewhere in the 22nd. But, seriously, the medical emergency scenes in "Star Trek", the drama of those scenes, were really just as exciting as the ones I played on "China Beach" years ago, because there`s something inherently dramatic in a life and death medical situation. Those are the days of shooting that I remember the most, when we did those big exciting hand-held camera, running around trying to save someone`s life in a few scenes.

HAFFENREFFER: Levar, we`ve had the pleasure of speaking with Nichelle Nichols this week as well as Anthony Montgomery. Anthony very poignantly said to us just last night, speaking a little bit about the diversity of the original series cast and how that really spoke to him as a kid, seeing Nichelle Nichols on set. And I was curious to get your thoughts on that. As a kid, growing up, do you recall seeing Nichelle Nichols as Lieutenant Uhura and thinking what?

BURTON: Thinking that finally here`s a version of the future that includes people who look like me. It`s no secret that there are a lot of us out there who saw ourselves represented in "Star Trek" and felt comfort in that. Mae Carol Jemison, the first African-American woman to fly in space became a scientist first and then an astronaut because of those images of Nichelle Nichols on the bridge. I think that it is impossible to underestimate the inspirational value of this franchise, because it`s meant so much to so many for so long and "Star Trek" asks those big questions. And the most important of them is just two words, "what if"? What if we lived in a world that was absent racism, sexism, prejudice of any sort? What if we were actually able to create a future that included everybody equally? Not a bad thing to contemplate.

HAFFENREFFER: Not a bad thing to contemplate and I hope we`re all moving in that direction as we speak. Levar Burton, Robert Picardo, thank you for being with us tonight. We appreciate your thoughts.

BURTON: Thank you very much. T

PICARDO: You bet.

HAFFENREFFER: he cast and crew of "Star Trek: Enterprise" pulls into dry dock for the last time this Friday in a two-hour series finale on UPN. Karyn, AJ.

BRYANT: Nice job, David. Way to go Levar. Live long and prosper all of you at home as well.

HAMMER: The final trek on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT will continue tomorrow as we end our salute to "Star Trek" with the creative captain of "Star Trek: Enterprise," the man who actually guided the series from its very first flight.

Well, now it is time to get your laugh on in laughter dark. As we do every single night, bringing you the late night laughs you just might have missed.

BRYANT: On "Jimmy Kimmel Live," Jimmy shows us there`s a familiar face behind all the recent controversy surrounding "American Idol" judge Paula Abdul.


JIMMY KIMMEL,HOST, JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE: In their home. So this former contestant, though, Corey Clark, will not rest. He wants everyone in the world to know he had an affair with Paula Abdul. And he says, now, he can identify a mark on Paula`s body to prove it. Which is -- I mean, the woman has been famous for -- everyone knows what the mark is anyway. Zoom in on that, if you would. She`s got -- she`s had it for many years. The William Hung mole.


HAMMER: I didn`t realize that`s what it was all that time.

BRYANT: That is funny. Tonight Jimmy`s got "That 70s Show" Wilmer Valderrama music from our friend Ludacris.

Coming up in the showbiz guide, a big battle brewing in the online music world. Where should you spend your downloading dollars? We`ll tell you.

HAMMER: And there`s still some time for you to sound off in our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Real life car chase, should they be televised live? You can vote by going to tonight or e-mail us what`s on your mind at We`re going to read some of your thoughts live coming up next.


HAMMER: It`s time now for the showbiz guide where throughout the week, we help you to decide where to best spend your dollars on movies, music, DVDs and more. Tonight it`s your guide to music online. Yahoo! has just launched a music service that`s ramping up the competition in the world of online music. Yahoo! is also taking aim at Apple`s iTunes with this and all the other online sites like Napster and Rhapsody. So the question is, should you Yahoo! or should you go somewhere else? Joining us live now to guide us through all of this, senior editor of "Time" magazine, Chris Farley. Chris, I`m a longtime user of one of the online music services, one of the more popular ones. Yahoo! however creating quite a buzz. Can you sort of give us an overview of what their service is all about?

CHRIS FARLEY, SENIOR EDITOR, TIME MAGAZINE: Yahoo! has really kind of drawn a line in the sand here. They`ve got a name. They`ve got a site a lot of people already use to search, to look at music videos. Now they want you to go there for your sort of downloading needs. What they`ve done is really kind of created the battle lines here is you can`t use the iPod on this new Yahoo! unlimited music service. You`ve got to use other kinds of MP3 players. So you`ve got to make a clear choice. Do you want to go with Yahoo! and their music and their plan or do you want to go someplace else to perhaps the more popular right now iTunes site.

HAMMER: And they`re going about it two ways, like iTunes, sort of like a music store. You can buy songs individually or by the album. But they also have a subscription based service. How does that work?

FARLEY: And that`s a clear difference here. They have a very discounted subscription rate. Right now it`s an introductory rate, so we don`t know if it`s going to go up later. It only going to cost you approximately $4.99 a month.

HAMMER: We`re showing it $6.99 on our screen.

FARLEY: It is $6.99 unless you want to go for the whole year. So it`s $60. We`re talking about $4.99 a month. So if you go for the whole year, you can get that $4.99 price a month and that`s a cut rate that really sort of sharply cuts the kind of subscription plans that are available out there by about a third.

HAFFENREFFER: As we showed, it was actually a lower rate than Napster or Rhapsody. Talk about their per song and per album structure. How does that work out?

FARLEY: That`s the whole thing. Right now in iTunes, you can go per song, 99 cents per song. A lot of people think that`s the way to get music. They want to go track by track, maybe they want the new Coldplay track. Maybe they want a track by somebody else. But this new subscription plan really sort of challenged that model and sort of says, instead of going track by track, stick with us throughout the whole year and it will cost you less.

HAMMER: In other words, as we just showed 79 cents per song, but you still have to pay a subscription fee.

FARLEY: Here`s the thing. The one semi-hidden thing here is, if you`re on the new Yahoo! unlimited service plan and you let your subscription lapse, you can no longer play your music. Your music is only rented. It`s not bought. It`s different with other services. So you have to sort of stick with Yahoo! if you want your music to continue working.

HAMMER: Got it. However, it`s not going to work on your iPod if you want to move those songs onto your iPod. This is a pretty complex situation especially for people who haven`t encountered the online music world. So we`ll definitely have you back to sort of go through it a little bit more. Chris Farley, we appreciate you coming in, letting us know about the new online services.

Yesterday of course, we asked you how you preferred your music. Our question of the day was, online music, is it better than buying CDs? It looks like you still like the shiny silver disk, 46 percent of you said they preferred the online music systems, while 54 percent of you said you preferred CDs.

BRYANT: Just a short time ago in cities far and not so far away, a star-studded movie premier nearly 30 years in the making. "Star Wars Episode III, Revenge of the Sith." we were right there at Ziegfield theater for the New York City premier of the final "Star Wars" film. Samuel L. Jackson was there, too and talked about his first "Star Wars" experience.


SAMUEL L. JACKSON, ACTOR: When I went to see "Star Wars" for the first time, the first screening, there was nobody there. It was only about 150 people there. We were all together. We just kind of bought a ticket and walked in. Wasn`t no huge line, no people standing outside screaming and wondering what was going on inside. We just kind of walked in and had a great time. It was awesome.


BRYANT: "Revenge of the Sith" premiers also underway tonight in Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta and Miami. The movie officially opens May 19th.

HAMMER: Well, throughout the show, we`ve been asking you to vote online on tonight`s SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Real life car chases, should they be televised? Here`s how the vote is going so far. 32 percent saying, yes, real life car chases should be televised, 68 percent say, no, keep them off TV. Some e-mail on the question, too, like one from Rebecca in Riverside, California. She writes, if people don`t want to watch live car chases, change the channel. Reporters give ample warning about disturbing news.

Also heard from John who`s in Mandota Heights, Minnesota. He writes, I don`t think that car chases should be televised. They should only be done in the movie. We`d like you to keep voting by going to

BRYANT: It is time to see what`s playing on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT tomorrow.

HAMMER: He`s standing by ready to go. Here`s the marquee guy.

ANNOUNCER: He slams people on mats. Now he`s making slamming tracks. WWE superstar John Cena. He`ll rap with us live about his raps. AJ, Karyn, no wrestling on the set, John Cena, seen on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT tomorrow.

Well, this man is all woman. She`s Aimee Mann. Her new album is "The Forgotten Arm," but we won`t forget about her. She`s (INAUDIBLE) Tuesday, but tomorrow is Friday and she`ll be on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Aimee Mann live. I`m the marquee guy, a man among men. And, man, oh, man, I`m a manly man. Amen.

HAMMER: Can I put you on the spot for a second? Aimee Mann nominated for an Oscar for a song from what movie?

BRYANT: "Magnolia."

HAMMER: That`s right.

BRYANT: All right.

HAMMER: That`s it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m AJ Hammer.

BRYANT: And I`m Karyn Bryant. Stay tuned for the latest from CNN HEADLINE NEWS.


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