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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR, CNN SUNDAY: "Finding Nemo" was a big hit. But did it make the list of the top 100 movies?
Motley Crue member rather Vince Neil has a new line of work and it has nothing to do with music but instead involves drinking.
And do you know how to save money when you're renting a car? You're about to find out.
Hello and welcome to CNN SUNDAY. I'm Fredricka Whitfield all that and more after a look at the headlines.
The first lady gets shoved around by anti America demonstrators while visiting holy sites in Jerusalem. She kept her cool and was unhurt. We'll have a report on Mrs. Bush's day coming up in eight minutes.
Saddam Hussein's lawyers threaten to sue British tabloid "The Sun" for $1 million for publishing pictures of the former dictator in his underwear. News agency ITN reports the suit could claim an invasion of privacy.
The FBI opens its crime lab to sift through evidence in the case of two missing Idaho children. And tips stream in from "America's Most Wanted" television program. We'll have a live report on the search for Shasta (ph) and Dylan Groene coming up in less than five minutes.
Right now, let's begin in Lake Worth, Florida where police responded to a reported abduction of an 8-year-old girl. Several hours later they found the child buried alive in a landfill. That is where our Susan Candiotti joins us now to sort out some of the facts. Susan.
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello Fredricka. Police call this an irony. The suspect charged in this case well, his first name is the Spanish word for miracle, yet police say it's a miracle that his alleged victim survived what happened to her. Balogra (ph) Cunningham is 17 years old, he is being charged as an adult in the attempted murder and sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl, CNN has not identified her because she is an alleged rape victim.
The case started as an amber alert. Police say the suspect himself reported her missing in the middle of the night. He made up what police call an elaborate story of what happened that two men snuck into the house where both of them were staying, took the little girl, they drove off with her and he told police that he ran after the car and it stopped at one point and the people inside beat him up. They said, however, he had no injuries. Well, eventually, police were looking all over the place for her. One hundred officers in all and wound up at a landfill a few blocks from the home where she was staying. She was found inside a dumpster covered in rocks and the officer that found her said when he looked odds, he saw the rocks, a hand and a foot and then he saw movement.
MIKE DRISCOLL, FOLE SPECIAL AGENT: She identified her attacker immediately and we're just emphasizing the position she was in, it's similar to that trashcan over there. Upside down with very large, heavy boulders on top of her. I mean she was in a position that you wouldn't think someone could ever survive.
CANDIOTTI: We know very little about the 17-year-old who has been charged in this case. Other than investigators telling us he was staying at this house for about four months, we don't know where he's from and why he moved there. However, we know that the little girl was just spending the night there according to authorities. Because her mother, we are told, was working. She was staying with her godmother that lived at the home and to have this happen, her mother is celebrating tonight. The little girl is at a local hospital. Police describe her condition as good. Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: And what about family members? How are they reacting to this? I mean, what a mixed bag of emotions. Happy that the little girl is OK but at the same time that they knew this alleged attacker.
CANDIOTTI: Well, you put your finger on it. In fact we saw a group of her relatives and friends of the family celebrating in prayer outside of the home where she was staying. Naturally, we hope to learn more about this as the time goes on. And the young man is expected to make a first appearance in court tomorrow morning.
WHITFIELD: All right. Susan Candiotti, thank you so much from Lake Worth, Florida.
In Florida, a missing child found. In Idaho, the search continues for two missing siblings after their mother and brother were among those found dead last week. CNN's Alina Cho is in Coeur D'Alene with the latest on that investigation -- Alina.
ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, everyone here is waiting for that one big break in the case. Something that will lead investigators to Dylan and Shasta Groene who have not been seen for a week but so far investigators have very few clues to go on. Here's what we can tell you. Critical pieces of evidence have actually been hand carried to the FBI lab in Virginia. That lab is normally closed on Sunday but it is actually open today so it can begin processing that evidence.
We can also tell you that FBI profilers have now arrived on the scene. And those investigators found evidence in every room of the home where the bodies of the children's mother, 13-year-old brother and mother's boyfriend were found on Monday night. Family members say they have put aside their grief for now to focus their efforts on finding the two children. JENNIFER INWOOD, CHILDREN'S COUSIN: Driving into town and seeing their faces up on the boards. Seeing the amber alerts and having people in this community just reach out to us has meant so much and I just -- you know, that is the most important thing is we just ask America to stick with us. As the days go on, if we don't find the kids immediately, keep looking.
Look at the kids that you see and pass you on the street. Think about what you would do if this is your child and just please, you know, be our eyes and ears throughout the country and the country, you know, so far done a great job of stepping forward and I don't -- you know, made us so much stronger and help us keep going.
CHO: Family members have also released new photos of the 8-year- old Shasta Goene she is a beautiful little girl. With waist length, auburn hair, green eyes and a slight built, she is just 40 pounds and 3 feet 10 inches tall. Her brother Dylan, 9 years old, 60 pounds, 4 feet tall, blue eyes and a blond crew cut. As I mentioned earlier they have not been seen for a week.
More than 800 tips have come into the hotline, 40 investigators are following those leads, and an additional 12 tips, Fredricka, have come in since the family appeared on "Americas Most Wanted" last night. Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: Alina do investigators feel like a lot of those tips that have come in have come as a result of Thursday press conference when the investigators asked that people who are attending a party that was taking place at that family's home call in?
CHO: Well, certainly some people from that party have called in and they won't release the details of the conversations with those people, of course. But yes, many people called in, 800 at all. As you know. I can tell you that most of those tips, authorities concede, probably turn out to be nothing. But they say they take every one very seriously.
WHITFIELD: All right. Alina Cho in Couer D'Alene, Idaho thanks so much.
Anti-American sentiment erupts in Israel as first lady Laura Bush visits holy sites around Jerusalem. At one point Mrs. Bush found herself besieged by demonstrators and later said it shows what an emotional place it is. CNN White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux is traveling with the first lady and here is her report.
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): It was a chaotic scene surrounding the first lady. As Mrs. Bush began her visit to the Dome of the Rock, one of Islam's holiest sites, a crowd formed. She approached the mosque as is custom wearing a headscarf and taking her shoes off at the door. Then an angry man shouted, you don't belong in the mosque. I stood beside her as Israeli press clamored to get inside. Grabbing a secret service agent, I was pulled in. Inside the shrine, it was calm. But when stepped out of the mosque, the heckling resumed. How dare you come in here? How dare you hassle our Muslims, one yelled.
Secret service agents closed in around Mrs. Bush as both Israeli journalists and Palestinians tried to penetrate the first lady's inner circle. At that point, Israeli police created a human linked chain around her security detail. Throughout, Mrs. Bush was poised and calm. But around her, tensions reached a point where I saw an Israeli policeman draw his gun as a young boy who was running towards Mrs. Bush. The first lady's motorcade whisked her away. It wasn't the first of the day.
Earlier, the first lady at a Western Wall. Following tradition, she placed a prayer note in the wall. But she didn't find calm there, either. Dozens of young Israeli women standing behind me shouted for the release of Jonathan Pollard, an American serving a life sentence for spying for Israel. Mrs. Bush did not react to the commotion. Later she reflected on the day's events.
LAURA BUSH, FIRST LADY: So I am really glad to be here, but I also know that especially the American press who are here with me see what an emotional place this is. As we go from each one of these very, very holy spots to the next. And, it's a -- we're reminded again of what we all want, what every one of us pray for.
MALVEAUX: The first lady says that is peace. As for the day's events, the secret service put out a statement saying nothing out of the ordinary happened. Clearly, Mrs. Bush got a taste of the passions some feel regarding U.S.-Middle East policy.
Suzanne Malveaux, CNN, Jerusalem.
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WHITFIELD: A teenager, a murder and a confession. The story you will hear only on CNN.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Peter Reilly thinks about his mother's murder every day.
PETER REILLY: My focus to solve the crime. That's exactly what my focus is.
COLLINS: Blamed for his mother's murder, Peter Reilly says that it was a case of grave injustice.
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WHITFIELD: thirty-two years ago Peter Reilly confessed to brutally killing his own mother and now he says he didn't commit the crime and Reilly is on a quest to solve the murder that has dominated his life. In a story you will only see on CNN, CNN's Heidi Collins delves into a mystery, is it a case of grave injustice?
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COLLINS (voice over): Peter Reilly thinks about his mother's murder every day. REILLY: My focus to solve the crime. That's exactly what my focus is.
COLLINS: His mother, Barbara Gibbons viciously beaten and stabbed almost 30 years ago. Her throat slit, her legs broken. He found her in a pool of blood in their modest four-room home in Western Connecticut. He was 18.
REILLY: Because this was all one property and we rented the cottage from the property owner.
COLLINS: It was a moment that changed his life. And a murder he would be blamed for. It would become a decade long fight to clear his name and find the real killers.
REILLY: This was home. And unfortunately, this is also where some people killed my mother.
COLLINS: Barbara Gibbons has raised her son alone, a single parent taking him to little league games and teaching him how to fish and hunt. She loved to read and pushed Peter to do the same.
REILLY: She would always put me before her. If there were needs in the house, my needs always came first. And she would sacrifice to make sure that I had good clothing. You know, the things I needed for school.
COLLINS: Barbara Gibbons had worked for an insurance company and for a time, managed the gas station across the street. Then, she went on welfare and people that knew her say she drank too much. Peter Reilly was more interested in guitars and cars than in school but he wasn't one to stir up trouble. He drove a used corvette but never got a speeding ticket.
REILLY: I guess, you know, 14, 15, 16 years old, somewhere in there we had a sit down and one of her things that she taught me, she said you have to remember, you always have to take care of number one. Nobody's going to do it for you.
COLLINS: It was advice he wishes he followed that fateful Friday night in September 1973. He'd spent the evening after school in a teen center at a local church. After dropping off a friend and driving himself home, he found his mother. She was on the floor bleeding and barely breathing.
Were you scared?
REILLY: I was terrified.
COLLINS: Sad?
REILLY: I didn't have time to be sad. I had time to do something. I had to get help right away.
COLLINS: Reilly called for an ambulance. Soon police were on the scene. And Reilly was a suspect. Strip-searched, placed in a police car, and kept from friends and neighbors.
REILLY: I didn't know this was a murder. I didn't understand. I thought it was possible that my mother had been suicidal and had done this to herself. I didn't know. And I didn't know that she was dead.
COLLINS: State police took Reilly to their barracks and they kept him up all night questioning him alone.
REILLY: They just plain exhausted me to the point of I was just absolutely lost and terrified and didn't know which way to turn.
COLLINS: Is there anything that you would have done differently?
REILLY: Yes. I should have asked for a lawyer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have a right to remain silent. If you talk to the police, anything you say can and will be used against you.
COLLINS: Peter Reilly cooperated, agreeing to answer all the police questions. And the questions went on all night. Then, transferred the next day to the state police headquarters in Hartford with only a couple of hours of sleep in jail, the questions continued.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well I think we got a little problem here Pete.
REILLY: What do you mean?
COLLINS: Reilly voluntarily took a lie detector test, measuring changes in the heartbeat and breathing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These charts say you hurt your mother last night.
REILLY: The thing is I don't remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The charts don't say that Pete.
COLLINS: Police wouldn't give up telling him their high-tech equipment read his denials as lies.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said a moment ago that you had doubt in your mind if you flew of the handle last night, and you don't recollect.
REILLY: It doesn't seem like me.
COLLINS: There were eight more hours of interrogation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't know for sure if you did this thing do you?
REILLY: No I don't.
COLLINS: After dozens of leading questions, Reilly eventually conceded he had snapped. But Reilly told lead investigator James Shay that his memory was still foggy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You recall cutting her throat with a straight razor?
REILLY: It's hard to say.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well --
REILLY: I think I recall doing it. I mean I imagine myself doing it. It's coming out of the back of my head. But I'm not absolutes positive of anything ---
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said to us repeatedly that you were responsible for your mother's death. You told us half a dozen times that you cut your mother with a straight razor.
REILLY: I said I thought that I did.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, you said you did. You didn't say you thought you did, you said you did.
COLLINS: Shay told Reilly police had evidence to prove he did it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, if she died when you were in the house, and there were only the two of you there, somebody is responsible for the other's death.
COLLINS: Riley told another officer he wasn't sure about that.
REILLY: It seems like I'm being pushed into saying things. He won't allow me to say what I think I did.
COLLINS: Shay wanted a confession in writing and got angry when Reilly refused.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't want you to play any more head games with us. And if you want to play this way, we'll take you and we'll lock you up, and we'll treat you like an animal.
COLLINS: Finally, without a lawyer present, Reilly signed a confession with no doubts.
DONALD CONNERY, "GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN....:" It just seemed to me a classic exercise in brainwashing.
COLLINS: Journalist Donald Connery has studied and written about the Reilly case from the beginning. His daughters were in school with Reilly. Connery and experts we talked to say during a long, aggressive interrogation false confessions can happen and a suspect can be persuaded of his own guilt, even fabricate details to back up the accusations. Especially when a suspect's confidence in his memory is attacked and police confront him with false, incriminating evidence over and over again.
CONNERY: I was astonished at the power of the police in the confinement of an interrogation room to use psychological ploys and pressures to get a totally innocent person to believe himself to be guilty and to start to speculate as Peter did about how he could have committed the crime he didn't commit. And those speculations ended up in an one-page confession. That he signed in his exhaustion.
COLLINS: That confession would cost Peter Reilly his freedom.
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WHITFIELD: And Peter Reilly's story continues next.
REILLY: I'm not ashamed of who I am. If anybody should be ashamed, it should be the activities of the police, the way they handled me back then.
WHITFIELD: Life after the confession.
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WHITFIELD: Welcome back to CNN SUNDAY, we continue to explore the gruesome death of a Connecticut mother and the son accused of her killing in part two of "Grave Injustice" confessed killer Peter Reilly retracts his confession. Heidi Collins continues the story.
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COLLINS (voice over): One month after confessing, on tape, to his mother's 1973 murder -- 18-year-old Peter Reilly allowed to go to his mother's funeral but he went in handcuffs concealed by a jail guard's coat.
REILLY: One hundred and forty three days here. That I'm never getting back.
COLLINS: Reilly spent five months in jail, released on bail raised by the friends and neighbors just as his trial began in the spring of 1974. By then Reilly had recanted his confession. Still, the confession became the prosecutor's main exhibit in the 6-week trial at the Lynch field County Courthouse. But there were no eyewitnesses. And little physical evidence. No bloody clothes belonging to Reilly. No definitive murder weapon.
The government's forensic expert said a kitchen knife with blood residue might have been used. He never identified whose blood was on the knife. A jury deliberated just two days before finding Reilly guilty of first-degree manslaughter.
REILLY: It was amazing that they could convict me. I'm standing there knowing full well that I never did anything wrong. At first I was kind of knocked down and then again that overwhelming feeling of, we have to fight on.
COLLINS: Reilly was facing 6 to 16 years in prison. Families in the community again bailed him out while he appealed his case. He was allowed to finish high school. And supporters began a drive for a new trial. Connecticut celebrities led by playwright Arthur Miller chipped in with much needed cash. Neighbors like journalist Donald Connery believed in his innocence.
CONNERY: It was hard for anyone to understand that this particular person with no reputation for wrongdoing or violence or anything would have done this. I was appalled at the prospect that the authorities had seemingly ignored evidence of innocence. And evidence of others who were probably guilty.
COLLINS: Why would they do that?
CONNERY: There is the belief that even among police to this day and prosecutors most of them no one will confess to a crime he didn't commit and once they have a confession, like then they're lazy.
COLLINS: Connecticut state police refuse requests by CNN to be interviewed on camera about their investigation. So did now retired lead investigator James Shay. A private investigator hired by Reilly's new defense team dug up fresh evidence for the appeal.
A newly identified fingerprint on the back door of his mother's house. It belonged to a local teenager who stole Reilly's mother's wallet one week before her murder. And, a statement by an off duty cop who saw Reilly driving his Corvette five miles from the house at the time prosecutors contended Reilly was committing the murder.
And on appeal, testimony from a defense psychiatrist who told the court Reilly's confession was coerced. In 1976, two years after his conviction, a Connecticut judge tossed it out. He granted Reilly a new trial saying a grave injustice has been done. The next year, the state dropped all charges and a judge ruled Reilly could never be prosecuted again for his mother's murder.
REILLY: It was a grave injustice. My mind was full of youthful ideals where things don't go wrong in the United States and they had at that point.
COLLINS: Peter Reilly went on with his life working as an emergency medical technician and a salesman. He was married for a few years in California but now lives back in Connecticut with a family that took him in during his darkest days.
COLLINS: When you get meet new friends, does it come up?
REILLY: It can be a little rough in the dating department. When you try to explain to someone who you are and the things you have done in your life and it's not everybody has got a murder conviction that's been overturned.
COLLINS: What's the reaction?
REILLY: One hell of an icebreaker. You know, I have nothing to hide. I'm not ashamed of who I am. If anybody should be ashamed, it should be the activities of the police the way they handled me back then.
COLLINS: Reilly and Don Connery petitioned the state to obtain access to all the police files from the case. They finally won access this month. CNN was there when they went to the police headquarters for the first time to inspect two filing cabinets full of documents. Documents that may hold clues to finally crack the case.
REILLY: It's a day we have been waiting for quite sometime.
CONNERY: About 32 years.
COLLINS: Reilly and Connery contend the police never stopped believing in Reilly's guilt and never investigated leads that pointed to anyone else even though a grand jury report filed after Reilly was cleared named five suspects worthy of investigation. Including the neighbor we told you about who stole Reilly's mother's wallet but he has always denied committing the murder.
REILLY: The state knows who we think did it and they'll spend the rest of their lives looking over the shoulder. I am not going away.
CONNERY: We are in a position of being able at this point with the new files to look at everything. All the testimony. Independent information. Police information. And try to see if it will hold up. It is like at long last we're putting the puzzle together.
COLLINS: A state police spokesman told CNN the case is an open investigation. And, "We never name suspects in any investigation at all for fear comprising the progress of it." But he added, "If anyone came up with any lead whatsoever, it would be pursued."
Some people would say you know what ultimately the justice system did work here. Peter Reilly is not in prison. Peter Reilly was exonerated.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some people would say that. But of a system didn't work in this case and it still isn't working. So long as the crime is unsolved and the killers are out there and free and never convicted, justice is not been done in this case. But maybe it will be.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's all about my mother and bringing to justice the individuals who committed this crime. And beyond that, how it affects me really doesn't matter, anymore.
COLLINS: Heidi Collins, CNN, Kent, Connecticut.
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WHITFIELD: And we'll change gears when we come right back. Most people have a favorite movie, but do their favorites make it to the top 100 movie list? You might be surprised what was left off.
And while we're on the subject of movies -- the music...
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Duh da, duh da.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Duh da, duhdaduhdaduhda.
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WHITFIELD: And the mayhem. For 30 years now, people have been jolted by "Jaws."
When we come back, a fond look back at this shark movie. Some producers thought at first was a turkey.
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WHITFIELD: Every week, dozens of stories slip beneath the news radar. Well, here are a few you might have missed.
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WHITFIELD (voice-over): Is it "Taps" for buglers? Many people worry it could be. On Saturday, 866 trumpeters and spanned out along 40 miles of rural New York highway to play "Taps." It was to let the nation know Uncle Sam needs more buglers to play "Taps" at military funerals.
Lots of kids throw tantrums when they don't get their way. Well, this tyke went way beyond that. When his mom wouldn't give him money for this vending machine, he crawled inside it. He had a blast with the toys for about an hour before the fire department got him out and, no, he still didn't get a toy to keep.
Heavy metal's bad boy Vince Neil has consumed a lot of vino in his day, now the Motley Crue frontman is starting his own wine label. Vince Vineyards. Don't worry, he won't be stomping the grapes himself.
And in Los Angeles, everyone recognizes "To Kill a Mockingbird" as an American classic, but it took Gregory Peck's widow to coax 79- year-old author Harper Lee to make a rare public appearance. Lee was at the Los Angeles Public Library the other night to pick up its annual literary award. Handing her the award was actor Brock Peters, he played the wrongly accused man in the 1962 movie with Gregory Peck.
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WHITFIELD: The movie that made us afraid to go into the water. And it's hard to believe that fear rippled over a 30-year period. As CNN's Sibila Vargas tells us, the horror film really took a big bite out of the box office.
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VARGAS (voice-over): The music...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Duh da, duh da.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Duh da, duh da, duhdaduhda.
VARGAS: And the mayhem. For 30 years now, people have been jolted by "Jaws."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That scared the bejeezus out of me.
VARGAS: Hard to believe then that before the movie opened in 1975 Universal Studios was worried.
TOM SHONE, AUTHOR: The producers were convinced they had made the biggest turkey, because the shoot of the movie had been so troubled. And it had gone so over budget.
VARGAS: Over budget mainly because the mechanical shark playing the lead role kept breaking down.
CARL GOTTLIEB, CO-WRITER/COSTAR, "JAWS": The world was collapsing around us, and the shark wasn't working and the actors were fractious, and the crew was muttering.
VARGAS: Carl Gottlieb, author of the "Jaws" log (ph) co-wrote and co-starred in the film. He still marvels at how a young director named Steven Spielberg kept his cool.
GOTTLIEB: He held it all together. He improvised in ways that nobody was aware.
VARGAS: Spielberg made a virtue of the shark's failure to perform.
STEVEN SPIELBERG, DIRECTOR: I resorted to Hitchcockian rule, which is basically shooting the water and suggesting the shark without showing it. Having the peer go out and turn around by itself and come back again.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take my word for it. Don't look back. Swim, swim.
VARGAS: That increased the suspense, which became evident during early test screenings.
GOTTLIEB: The people screamed, and then they screamed again, and then they jumped in their seats.
VARGAS: Then the film opened to the public and a movie industry legend was born.
SHONE: Jaws mania kind of swept the country in a grassroots kind of way.
GOTLIEB: There was a shark on the cover of "Time" magazine. And it just grew in the public consciousness.
SHONE: It really became like this kind of cultural event.
GOTTLIEB: It played and played and played, and people just kept coming. SHONE: The amount of money that "Jaws" made, you know, just completely changed the course of Hollywood, you know, moviemaking. Immediately, the first response, can we do it again? And how many times can we do it? And what about next summer? So it was the beginning of kind of Hollywood's sort of endless summer.
VARGAS (on camera): "Jaws" went on to earn an astonishing $470 million worldwide in 1975. And that's not even adjusted for inflation. Those numbers will surely increase when a special 30th edition comes out on DVD in June.
Sibila Vargas, CNN, Los Angeles.
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WHITFIELD: Well, "Jaws" no doubt made movie history, but is it one of the best films ever? Well, "Time" is -- Time.com that is -- is out with the top 100 movies of al time and listed on Time.com. And with us to talk about the list of movie magic is Mark Coatney. He's deputy editor of "Time" magazine's Web site. And joins us from the Time Warner center in New York.
Good to see you.
MARK COATNEY, TIME: Good to see you, Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: Now, the official list is going to be on your Web site starting tomorrow right. So we're getting a little preview right now.
COATNEY: Right.
WHITFIELD: All right. So, did "Jaws" make that top 100 list?
COATNY: "Jaws" did not. Although there are two Speilbergers.
WHITFIELD: Why not?
COATNEY: Well, you know -- we could only have 100.
WHITFIELD: It was impactful, no doubt, "Jaws" was.
COATNEY: Definitely did. Yes.
WHITFIELD: So, what is the criteria for this movie -- a movie to make it on the top 100?
COATNEY: Well, our critics -- our two critics had different set of criteria and we kind of merged the two. Richard Shickel, one of our long time critics at "Time" magazine looked at the list as here are 100 movies that I really like. And when Richard Corliss, the other critic was kind of coming to it, his conception was here are 100 movies that represent all of cinema.
And so we took each one of the lists and we smushed them together and there really wasn't much overlap. Each one had about 20 in common, maybe, and then we kind of fought a lot and negotiated it down to the 100 that we decided on.
WHITFIELD: Well, so Richard square almost saw eye to eye?
COATNEY: Almost. There were quite a few movies that they disagreed on. And some trading that went on in the process.
WHITFIELD: And so how did you all as a committee decide on what movies to eliminate? Was it by the genre of movie, the categories, how they impacted people or moved people, et cetera.
COATNEY: All of those things, really. And, you know, honestly, some of it would -- both critics would agree, some (INAUDIBLE) here's a movie I liked when I was 20. You know?
But -- all of those things came into play. Corliss, for instance, really insisted that we have something to represent South American cinema. So, which is why "City of God," which is a fairly new film is on the list. And Shickel felt very strongly that we should have something from the silent movie era, so we have a couple, like "Metropolis" for one, or "Sherlock Junior," which is a Buster Keaton film.
WHITFIELD: When I look at the list, though, you talk like the "City of God" which is fairly recent, within the past ten years, really recent five years even, it almost looks like of the 100, many of these movies are modern day movies. Is there a reason for that?
COATNEY: Well, not -- nothing conscious. I think that especially in the last 20 years or so, there were a lot of -- actually, the biggest decade is the 1980's, 16 films. Maybe not that many, 15 films from the 1980s. And, you know, five from post-2000.
And, you know, it is tough, because I think you are not always sure what stands the test of time. And I know for instance time hated the movies we think are great. Like we hated "Casablanca" when it came out.
WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh. But that did made it on the list, I noticed.
Let's talk about some of the movies that did make it on the list. "Finding Nemo." Can't get any more current than that. Why in the world...
COATNEY: Great film. Yes. That was Richard Corliss' big pick because he felt that we needed to represent the CGI movie, which is kind of the coming future of film. And you know, it's also just a great story. I mean, no matter what, technically brilliant but also just really nice to look at.
WHITFIELD: And "Goodfellas?"
COATNEY: "Goodfellas."
WHITFIELD: I mean, really shifting gears here quite a bit. COATNEY: Yes. We're jumping around. "Goodfellas" is one of three Scorsese films on the list. And it's probably the one that both critics agreed on most. Great, you know, kind of mob drama, maybe Scorsese's big, finest moment in the kind of themes that he kind of touches on through a lot of his movies, the kind of Italian-American mafia movie.
WHITFIELD: Well, "Goodfellas" was in, I didn't necessarily see any of the "Godfathers" on there.
COATNEY: Oh, no, no. "Godfather" Part 1 and 2. Not part 3, but part 1 and 2.
WHITFIELD: I must have overlooked that.
COATNEY: Yep.
WHITFIELD: All right.
"Dr. Strangelove" that's Stanley Kubrick's film.
COATNEY: Very fun film and very much of its time, the kind of Cold War paranoia thing. Peter Sellers is brilliant playing all these different roles. One of Stanley Kubrick's great films, too.
WHITFIELD: "Some Like It Hot."
COATNEY: "Some Like It Hot."
WHITFIELD: Quite memorable for most.
COATNEY: Quite memorable. Quite memorable. Great performances from Jack Lemons, Tony Curtis and Marilyn Monroe.
Although, interestingly enough, when that came out, "Time" magazine kind of said that, you know, Marilyn's been skinnier and sexier in other pictures and they didn't really think that much of it. But looking back, it's truly a classic.
WHITFIELD: And few would argue that "It's A Wonderful Life" deserves a spot on that list.
COATNEY: Well, that's one of those movies that you almost just have to put on there. And we looked at it as, yes, everyone has seen it a million times. And it's become kind of this cliche, but really, just sit down with it with fresh eyes and it's a really nice film, really well done. Jimmy Stewart's probably never been better. And it tells a really compelling, family story.
WHITFIELD: Are you afraid that some folks might at the list and say, wait a minute, are they kidding me? Like "The Fly" for instance. The remake and not necessarily the original.
COATNEY: Right.
Well, The Fly" was our biggest fight, actually. Because Corliss insisted on that, and Shickel thought it was appalling as a film. And, you know, I can see some of those sides. But really, the idea behind "The Fly' was that it, you know, it's not just a gross picture, but if you think of it as kind of a metaphor for anything, like aging or dying of cancer, something like that, it's the idea of like bad things that can happen in your life and how you deal with them.
WHITFIELD: And trying to transform yourself.
COATNEY: Right. Exactly.
WHITFIELD: And a couple of things that we here notice not on the list and we were aghast, like "To Kill a Mockingbird." Not on the list. No "Sound of Music." Did I overlook that one? No "Sound of Music" on this list?
COATNEY: No. No "Sound of Music." No.
WHITFIELD: What is going on here?
COATNEY: Well, again, we had to pick 100. There were -- we got down into the 110, 120s and then we really started to just drop off movies that we really liked. "Blue Velvet" was one that I really liked. And that was probably our 101st movie and we had to drop that one, too.
WHITFIELD: And "National Velvet." I don't think I saw that on there, speaking of velvets.
COATNEY: No. No "National Velvet."
WHITFIELD: Next time, consult me, Mark.
COATNEY: You're our first phone call.
WHITFIELD: All right. Mark Coatney, thank so much, of Time.com. And just in case you want to see more, or learn a little bit more of all of these movies, check out Time.com where you will see the listing starting tomorrow. All right. Thanks a lot, Mark.
COATNEY: All right. Thank you.
WHITFIELD: Well, don't move. A countdown is straight ahead. And when we come back, an egg-citing blast off worth nine grand.
And when on vacation, get a deal on wheels. Tips that'll save you cash on car rentals.
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WHITFIELD: A marathon Saturday along a section of China's Great Wall attracted hundreds of runners from 35 countries. Many said they came just for the thrill of racing atop one of the world's greatest marvels. The winner was an American man that lived in Shanghai.
And yes, Virginia (ph), it really is rocket science. The goal was to launch two raw eggs and have them land exactly 60 seconds later without breaking, of course. Well, a 4-H club from Minnesota beat out 99 other teams to claim the $9,000 top prize.
Always a lot of fun making science fun.
All right. About an hour from now, a little over that, Carol Lin picks up straight ahead with CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: 12 minutes from now.
WHITFIELD:: Oh my gosh.
LIN: I know, normally I talk to you in the 4:00 hour.
WHITFIELD: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
LIN: This is your new show.
WHITFIELD: Oh, this Sunday is confusing me.
LIN: Well, we will unconfuse you.
WHITFIELD: All right. Straighten it out.
LIN: All week long, we've been talking about the filibuster fight. We've had our own filibuster in the news about the filibuster. Carlos Watson, our CNN political analyst, has a new segment on the show called "Fresh Take" and he actually has some really interesting news that's coming out of the filibuster fight about a political phoenix rising from the ashes from his racist remarks that lost his very high profile, powerful position as senate majority leader. He may be making a political come back through the...
WHITFIELD: Getting some new points. Gaining some points.
LIN: And gaining some points, exactly.
10:00 tonight, Fredricka, I just interviewed -- I just pretaped an interview with an American scientist who was actually assisting the South Koreans in developing these new therapeutic lines of stem cells. They were able to clone human cells which could grow to be human tissue.
WHITFIELD: And that effort on his behalf being very controversial now, too.
LIN: Very controversial. And but for him, very poignant. He had just lost his mother to Alzheimer's this year, one of the diseases that may benefit from stem cell research. So he's here -- we talked about what it was like for him to watch these developments, what it really means and how it plays into the political debate as the House votes on expanding federal funding on Tuesday for stem cell research and President Bush's position on the issue.
WHITFIELD: Fantastic. We'll be looking for all that.
Thanks a lot.
WHITFIELD: Thank you.
Well, get ready to hit the road. We'll give you the dollars and cents on car rentals when CNN LIVE SUNDAY returns.
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WHITFIELD: As Memorial Day approaches, you may be preparing to hit the road on vacation. If you're renting a car, we'll tell you how to get the best deals in our "Dollars and Sense" segment. With us, Vera Gibbons, contributing editor for Kiplingers Personal Finance. She joins us from Boston. Good to see you.
VERA GIBBONS, KIPLINGERS: Nice to see you, Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: All right. Well, does there seem to be a peak and nonpeak season when it comes to car rentals?
GIBBONS: Yes. And it does become tougher this time of year to find those good rates. In part because we are getting into a busy season, but also because this is an industry with a rates are changing constantly. They're literally hundreds if not thousands of rate changes every day.
I would -- one thing you want to do if you're in the market of a car rental is make sure you get the total rate up front, not the base rate, because there are a lot of fees and those can easily put a dent in your budget.
In fact, a study done by Consumers Reports Web Watch found that fees higher than most other travel products including airfare, hotel rooms, cruise lines and vacation packages. But if you search early on, you can probably find something, but I would definitely factor in those fees.
WHITFIELD: So often that happens. You think you got a good rate, and then come to find out there are fees and taxes, they just go on and on and on.
GIBBONS: Yes.
WHITFIELD: So, is it unavoidable? I mean, yes, you can ask up front, give me the total rate package. But are some of those fees, perhaps unavoidable?
GIBBONS: Yes. Taxes are the ones that are definitely unavoidable. What happens is, the car rental companies get taxed by the local government to fund projects such as stadiums, convention centers. And they pass those taxes right on to you, the consumer. The out of town vacationing visitor. Those taxes really pack a mean punch, particularly if you've rented at an airport.
Taxes add 26 percent on average to the base rate according to a study by Travelocity. And if you rented a car in Houston at Houston's Bush Intercontinental Airport, you paid an additional 66 percent beyond that base rate.
WHITFIELD: Interesting.
Now, auto insurance. Boy does that tricky.
GIBBONS: Yes.
WHITFIELD: You have got your own insurance, but then sometimes you go rent a car and they try to talk you into getting theirs. What is the right thing to do?
GIBBONS: Well, if you have comprehensive and collision coverage through your own auto policy and you've got supplemental coverage through your credit card company, you're probably all set on this one. But what you don't know could cost you.
So, what I would suggest you do is make a couple of calls before you hit the counter. Call your insurance agent, find out how generous your collision coverage is. It may in fact be limited to the value of your car. Also, call your credit card company. Do I have primary coverage? Do I have secondary coverage? Are there various exclusions? And if you're worried about theft of your belongings, then of course, you want to check your homeowners' policy.
But the bottom line here, Fredricka, is you don't want to wait until you get to the counter to make a decision. You want to know what you have got in advance, because you could end up being covered four times over.
WHITFIELD: Wow. And you know, you can save a whole lot of money if it turns out your own insurance covers that rental policy.
GIBBONS: Yes. But part of the problem is the scare tactics that the reps use at the counter to get you to buy that insurance. So, you have got to be careful there.
WHITFIELD:: No kidding.
Now, why is it not so quick to rent a car these days? Why is it taking so long. Why is it taking so long on some occasions?
GIBBONS: Yes, this is interesting. A J.D. Powers survey, 2004 survey, found that it's taking 43 percent of all car rental customers had to wait an average of 14 minutes to get their car, plus another eight minutes for the shuttle. And this is up from 12 minutes in 2003. And that is in large part because a lot of these facilities have been consolidated. You've got all these airports having the car rental companies all under one roof. And for security purposes and to reduce suggestion, they are running fewer shuttles to and from these consolitaded facilities. So, it's taking awhile to get your car.
WHITFIELD; All right. Vera Gibbons, thanks so much. Kiplingers Personal Finance. Thanks for joining us from Boston.
GIBBONS: Thanks.
WHITFIELD: All right. That's going to do it for us. Carol Lin's up next as CNN SUNDAY LIVE (sic) continues. And don't forget 8:00 Eastern, CNN Presents "Autism Is A World."
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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR, CNN SUNDAY: "Finding Nemo" was a big hit. But did it make the list of the top 100 movies?
Motley Crue member rather Vince Neil has a new line of work and it has nothing to do with music but instead involves drinking.
And do you know how to save money when you're renting a car? You're about to find out.
Hello and welcome to CNN SUNDAY. I'm Fredricka Whitfield all that and more after a look at the headlines.
The first lady gets shoved around by anti America demonstrators while visiting holy sites in Jerusalem. She kept her cool and was unhurt. We'll have a report on Mrs. Bush's day coming up in eight minutes.
Saddam Hussein's lawyers threaten to sue British tabloid "The Sun" for $1 million for publishing pictures of the former dictator in his underwear. News agency ITN reports the suit could claim an invasion of privacy.
The FBI opens its crime lab to sift through evidence in the case of two missing Idaho children. And tips stream in from "America's Most Wanted" television program. We'll have a live report on the search for Shasta (ph) and Dylan Groene coming up in less than five minutes.
Right now, let's begin in Lake Worth, Florida where police responded to a reported abduction of an 8-year-old girl. Several hours later they found the child buried alive in a landfill. That is where our Susan Candiotti joins us now to sort out some of the facts. Susan.
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello Fredricka. Police call this an irony. The suspect charged in this case well, his first name is the Spanish word for miracle, yet police say it's a miracle that his alleged victim survived what happened to her. Balogra (ph) Cunningham is 17 years old, he is being charged as an adult in the attempted murder and sexual assault of an 8-year-old girl, CNN has not identified her because she is an alleged rape victim.
The case started as an amber alert. Police say the suspect himself reported her missing in the middle of the night. He made up what police call an elaborate story of what happened that two men snuck into the house where both of them were staying, took the little girl, they drove off with her and he told police that he ran after the car and it stopped at one point and the people inside beat him up. They said, however, he had no injuries. Well, eventually, police were looking all over the place for her. One hundred officers in all and wound up at a landfill a few blocks from the home where she was staying. She was found inside a dumpster covered in rocks and the officer that found her said when he looked odds, he saw the rocks, a hand and a foot and then he saw movement.
MIKE DRISCOLL, FOLE SPECIAL AGENT: She identified her attacker immediately and we're just emphasizing the position she was in, it's similar to that trashcan over there. Upside down with very large, heavy boulders on top of her. I mean she was in a position that you wouldn't think someone could ever survive.
CANDIOTTI: We know very little about the 17-year-old who has been charged in this case. Other than investigators telling us he was staying at this house for about four months, we don't know where he's from and why he moved there. However, we know that the little girl was just spending the night there according to authorities. Because her mother, we are told, was working. She was staying with her godmother that lived at the home and to have this happen, her mother is celebrating tonight. The little girl is at a local hospital. Police describe her condition as good. Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: And what about family members? How are they reacting to this? I mean, what a mixed bag of emotions. Happy that the little girl is OK but at the same time that they knew this alleged attacker.
CANDIOTTI: Well, you put your finger on it. In fact we saw a group of her relatives and friends of the family celebrating in prayer outside of the home where she was staying. Naturally, we hope to learn more about this as the time goes on. And the young man is expected to make a first appearance in court tomorrow morning.
WHITFIELD: All right. Susan Candiotti, thank you so much from Lake Worth, Florida.
In Florida, a missing child found. In Idaho, the search continues for two missing siblings after their mother and brother were among those found dead last week. CNN's Alina Cho is in Coeur D'Alene with the latest on that investigation -- Alina.
ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, everyone here is waiting for that one big break in the case. Something that will lead investigators to Dylan and Shasta Groene who have not been seen for a week but so far investigators have very few clues to go on. Here's what we can tell you. Critical pieces of evidence have actually been hand carried to the FBI lab in Virginia. That lab is normally closed on Sunday but it is actually open today so it can begin processing that evidence.
We can also tell you that FBI profilers have now arrived on the scene. And those investigators found evidence in every room of the home where the bodies of the children's mother, 13-year-old brother and mother's boyfriend were found on Monday night. Family members say they have put aside their grief for now to focus their efforts on finding the two children. JENNIFER INWOOD, CHILDREN'S COUSIN: Driving into town and seeing their faces up on the boards. Seeing the amber alerts and having people in this community just reach out to us has meant so much and I just -- you know, that is the most important thing is we just ask America to stick with us. As the days go on, if we don't find the kids immediately, keep looking.
Look at the kids that you see and pass you on the street. Think about what you would do if this is your child and just please, you know, be our eyes and ears throughout the country and the country, you know, so far done a great job of stepping forward and I don't -- you know, made us so much stronger and help us keep going.
CHO: Family members have also released new photos of the 8-year- old Shasta Goene she is a beautiful little girl. With waist length, auburn hair, green eyes and a slight built, she is just 40 pounds and 3 feet 10 inches tall. Her brother Dylan, 9 years old, 60 pounds, 4 feet tall, blue eyes and a blond crew cut. As I mentioned earlier they have not been seen for a week.
More than 800 tips have come into the hotline, 40 investigators are following those leads, and an additional 12 tips, Fredricka, have come in since the family appeared on "Americas Most Wanted" last night. Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: Alina do investigators feel like a lot of those tips that have come in have come as a result of Thursday press conference when the investigators asked that people who are attending a party that was taking place at that family's home call in?
CHO: Well, certainly some people from that party have called in and they won't release the details of the conversations with those people, of course. But yes, many people called in, 800 at all. As you know. I can tell you that most of those tips, authorities concede, probably turn out to be nothing. But they say they take every one very seriously.
WHITFIELD: All right. Alina Cho in Couer D'Alene, Idaho thanks so much.
Anti-American sentiment erupts in Israel as first lady Laura Bush visits holy sites around Jerusalem. At one point Mrs. Bush found herself besieged by demonstrators and later said it shows what an emotional place it is. CNN White House correspondent Suzanne Malveaux is traveling with the first lady and here is her report.
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): It was a chaotic scene surrounding the first lady. As Mrs. Bush began her visit to the Dome of the Rock, one of Islam's holiest sites, a crowd formed. She approached the mosque as is custom wearing a headscarf and taking her shoes off at the door. Then an angry man shouted, you don't belong in the mosque. I stood beside her as Israeli press clamored to get inside. Grabbing a secret service agent, I was pulled in. Inside the shrine, it was calm. But when stepped out of the mosque, the heckling resumed. How dare you come in here? How dare you hassle our Muslims, one yelled.
Secret service agents closed in around Mrs. Bush as both Israeli journalists and Palestinians tried to penetrate the first lady's inner circle. At that point, Israeli police created a human linked chain around her security detail. Throughout, Mrs. Bush was poised and calm. But around her, tensions reached a point where I saw an Israeli policeman draw his gun as a young boy who was running towards Mrs. Bush. The first lady's motorcade whisked her away. It wasn't the first of the day.
Earlier, the first lady at a Western Wall. Following tradition, she placed a prayer note in the wall. But she didn't find calm there, either. Dozens of young Israeli women standing behind me shouted for the release of Jonathan Pollard, an American serving a life sentence for spying for Israel. Mrs. Bush did not react to the commotion. Later she reflected on the day's events.
LAURA BUSH, FIRST LADY: So I am really glad to be here, but I also know that especially the American press who are here with me see what an emotional place this is. As we go from each one of these very, very holy spots to the next. And, it's a -- we're reminded again of what we all want, what every one of us pray for.
MALVEAUX: The first lady says that is peace. As for the day's events, the secret service put out a statement saying nothing out of the ordinary happened. Clearly, Mrs. Bush got a taste of the passions some feel regarding U.S.-Middle East policy.
Suzanne Malveaux, CNN, Jerusalem.
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WHITFIELD: A teenager, a murder and a confession. The story you will hear only on CNN.
HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Peter Reilly thinks about his mother's murder every day.
PETER REILLY: My focus to solve the crime. That's exactly what my focus is.
COLLINS: Blamed for his mother's murder, Peter Reilly says that it was a case of grave injustice.
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WHITFIELD: thirty-two years ago Peter Reilly confessed to brutally killing his own mother and now he says he didn't commit the crime and Reilly is on a quest to solve the murder that has dominated his life. In a story you will only see on CNN, CNN's Heidi Collins delves into a mystery, is it a case of grave injustice?
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COLLINS (voice over): Peter Reilly thinks about his mother's murder every day. REILLY: My focus to solve the crime. That's exactly what my focus is.
COLLINS: His mother, Barbara Gibbons viciously beaten and stabbed almost 30 years ago. Her throat slit, her legs broken. He found her in a pool of blood in their modest four-room home in Western Connecticut. He was 18.
REILLY: Because this was all one property and we rented the cottage from the property owner.
COLLINS: It was a moment that changed his life. And a murder he would be blamed for. It would become a decade long fight to clear his name and find the real killers.
REILLY: This was home. And unfortunately, this is also where some people killed my mother.
COLLINS: Barbara Gibbons has raised her son alone, a single parent taking him to little league games and teaching him how to fish and hunt. She loved to read and pushed Peter to do the same.
REILLY: She would always put me before her. If there were needs in the house, my needs always came first. And she would sacrifice to make sure that I had good clothing. You know, the things I needed for school.
COLLINS: Barbara Gibbons had worked for an insurance company and for a time, managed the gas station across the street. Then, she went on welfare and people that knew her say she drank too much. Peter Reilly was more interested in guitars and cars than in school but he wasn't one to stir up trouble. He drove a used corvette but never got a speeding ticket.
REILLY: I guess, you know, 14, 15, 16 years old, somewhere in there we had a sit down and one of her things that she taught me, she said you have to remember, you always have to take care of number one. Nobody's going to do it for you.
COLLINS: It was advice he wishes he followed that fateful Friday night in September 1973. He'd spent the evening after school in a teen center at a local church. After dropping off a friend and driving himself home, he found his mother. She was on the floor bleeding and barely breathing.
Were you scared?
REILLY: I was terrified.
COLLINS: Sad?
REILLY: I didn't have time to be sad. I had time to do something. I had to get help right away.
COLLINS: Reilly called for an ambulance. Soon police were on the scene. And Reilly was a suspect. Strip-searched, placed in a police car, and kept from friends and neighbors.
REILLY: I didn't know this was a murder. I didn't understand. I thought it was possible that my mother had been suicidal and had done this to herself. I didn't know. And I didn't know that she was dead.
COLLINS: State police took Reilly to their barracks and they kept him up all night questioning him alone.
REILLY: They just plain exhausted me to the point of I was just absolutely lost and terrified and didn't know which way to turn.
COLLINS: Is there anything that you would have done differently?
REILLY: Yes. I should have asked for a lawyer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have a right to remain silent. If you talk to the police, anything you say can and will be used against you.
COLLINS: Peter Reilly cooperated, agreeing to answer all the police questions. And the questions went on all night. Then, transferred the next day to the state police headquarters in Hartford with only a couple of hours of sleep in jail, the questions continued.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well I think we got a little problem here Pete.
REILLY: What do you mean?
COLLINS: Reilly voluntarily took a lie detector test, measuring changes in the heartbeat and breathing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These charts say you hurt your mother last night.
REILLY: The thing is I don't remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The charts don't say that Pete.
COLLINS: Police wouldn't give up telling him their high-tech equipment read his denials as lies.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said a moment ago that you had doubt in your mind if you flew of the handle last night, and you don't recollect.
REILLY: It doesn't seem like me.
COLLINS: There were eight more hours of interrogation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't know for sure if you did this thing do you?
REILLY: No I don't.
COLLINS: After dozens of leading questions, Reilly eventually conceded he had snapped. But Reilly told lead investigator James Shay that his memory was still foggy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You recall cutting her throat with a straight razor?
REILLY: It's hard to say.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well --
REILLY: I think I recall doing it. I mean I imagine myself doing it. It's coming out of the back of my head. But I'm not absolutes positive of anything ---
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You said to us repeatedly that you were responsible for your mother's death. You told us half a dozen times that you cut your mother with a straight razor.
REILLY: I said I thought that I did.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, you said you did. You didn't say you thought you did, you said you did.
COLLINS: Shay told Reilly police had evidence to prove he did it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, if she died when you were in the house, and there were only the two of you there, somebody is responsible for the other's death.
COLLINS: Riley told another officer he wasn't sure about that.
REILLY: It seems like I'm being pushed into saying things. He won't allow me to say what I think I did.
COLLINS: Shay wanted a confession in writing and got angry when Reilly refused.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't want you to play any more head games with us. And if you want to play this way, we'll take you and we'll lock you up, and we'll treat you like an animal.
COLLINS: Finally, without a lawyer present, Reilly signed a confession with no doubts.
DONALD CONNERY, "GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN....:" It just seemed to me a classic exercise in brainwashing.
COLLINS: Journalist Donald Connery has studied and written about the Reilly case from the beginning. His daughters were in school with Reilly. Connery and experts we talked to say during a long, aggressive interrogation false confessions can happen and a suspect can be persuaded of his own guilt, even fabricate details to back up the accusations. Especially when a suspect's confidence in his memory is attacked and police confront him with false, incriminating evidence over and over again.
CONNERY: I was astonished at the power of the police in the confinement of an interrogation room to use psychological ploys and pressures to get a totally innocent person to believe himself to be guilty and to start to speculate as Peter did about how he could have committed the crime he didn't commit. And those speculations ended up in an one-page confession. That he signed in his exhaustion.
COLLINS: That confession would cost Peter Reilly his freedom.
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WHITFIELD: And Peter Reilly's story continues next.
REILLY: I'm not ashamed of who I am. If anybody should be ashamed, it should be the activities of the police, the way they handled me back then.
WHITFIELD: Life after the confession.
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WHITFIELD: Welcome back to CNN SUNDAY, we continue to explore the gruesome death of a Connecticut mother and the son accused of her killing in part two of "Grave Injustice" confessed killer Peter Reilly retracts his confession. Heidi Collins continues the story.
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COLLINS (voice over): One month after confessing, on tape, to his mother's 1973 murder -- 18-year-old Peter Reilly allowed to go to his mother's funeral but he went in handcuffs concealed by a jail guard's coat.
REILLY: One hundred and forty three days here. That I'm never getting back.
COLLINS: Reilly spent five months in jail, released on bail raised by the friends and neighbors just as his trial began in the spring of 1974. By then Reilly had recanted his confession. Still, the confession became the prosecutor's main exhibit in the 6-week trial at the Lynch field County Courthouse. But there were no eyewitnesses. And little physical evidence. No bloody clothes belonging to Reilly. No definitive murder weapon.
The government's forensic expert said a kitchen knife with blood residue might have been used. He never identified whose blood was on the knife. A jury deliberated just two days before finding Reilly guilty of first-degree manslaughter.
REILLY: It was amazing that they could convict me. I'm standing there knowing full well that I never did anything wrong. At first I was kind of knocked down and then again that overwhelming feeling of, we have to fight on.
COLLINS: Reilly was facing 6 to 16 years in prison. Families in the community again bailed him out while he appealed his case. He was allowed to finish high school. And supporters began a drive for a new trial. Connecticut celebrities led by playwright Arthur Miller chipped in with much needed cash. Neighbors like journalist Donald Connery believed in his innocence.
CONNERY: It was hard for anyone to understand that this particular person with no reputation for wrongdoing or violence or anything would have done this. I was appalled at the prospect that the authorities had seemingly ignored evidence of innocence. And evidence of others who were probably guilty.
COLLINS: Why would they do that?
CONNERY: There is the belief that even among police to this day and prosecutors most of them no one will confess to a crime he didn't commit and once they have a confession, like then they're lazy.
COLLINS: Connecticut state police refuse requests by CNN to be interviewed on camera about their investigation. So did now retired lead investigator James Shay. A private investigator hired by Reilly's new defense team dug up fresh evidence for the appeal.
A newly identified fingerprint on the back door of his mother's house. It belonged to a local teenager who stole Reilly's mother's wallet one week before her murder. And, a statement by an off duty cop who saw Reilly driving his Corvette five miles from the house at the time prosecutors contended Reilly was committing the murder.
And on appeal, testimony from a defense psychiatrist who told the court Reilly's confession was coerced. In 1976, two years after his conviction, a Connecticut judge tossed it out. He granted Reilly a new trial saying a grave injustice has been done. The next year, the state dropped all charges and a judge ruled Reilly could never be prosecuted again for his mother's murder.
REILLY: It was a grave injustice. My mind was full of youthful ideals where things don't go wrong in the United States and they had at that point.
COLLINS: Peter Reilly went on with his life working as an emergency medical technician and a salesman. He was married for a few years in California but now lives back in Connecticut with a family that took him in during his darkest days.
COLLINS: When you get meet new friends, does it come up?
REILLY: It can be a little rough in the dating department. When you try to explain to someone who you are and the things you have done in your life and it's not everybody has got a murder conviction that's been overturned.
COLLINS: What's the reaction?
REILLY: One hell of an icebreaker. You know, I have nothing to hide. I'm not ashamed of who I am. If anybody should be ashamed, it should be the activities of the police the way they handled me back then.
COLLINS: Reilly and Don Connery petitioned the state to obtain access to all the police files from the case. They finally won access this month. CNN was there when they went to the police headquarters for the first time to inspect two filing cabinets full of documents. Documents that may hold clues to finally crack the case.
REILLY: It's a day we have been waiting for quite sometime.
CONNERY: About 32 years.
COLLINS: Reilly and Connery contend the police never stopped believing in Reilly's guilt and never investigated leads that pointed to anyone else even though a grand jury report filed after Reilly was cleared named five suspects worthy of investigation. Including the neighbor we told you about who stole Reilly's mother's wallet but he has always denied committing the murder.
REILLY: The state knows who we think did it and they'll spend the rest of their lives looking over the shoulder. I am not going away.
CONNERY: We are in a position of being able at this point with the new files to look at everything. All the testimony. Independent information. Police information. And try to see if it will hold up. It is like at long last we're putting the puzzle together.
COLLINS: A state police spokesman told CNN the case is an open investigation. And, "We never name suspects in any investigation at all for fear comprising the progress of it." But he added, "If anyone came up with any lead whatsoever, it would be pursued."
Some people would say you know what ultimately the justice system did work here. Peter Reilly is not in prison. Peter Reilly was exonerated.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some people would say that. But of a system didn't work in this case and it still isn't working. So long as the crime is unsolved and the killers are out there and free and never convicted, justice is not been done in this case. But maybe it will be.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's all about my mother and bringing to justice the individuals who committed this crime. And beyond that, how it affects me really doesn't matter, anymore.
COLLINS: Heidi Collins, CNN, Kent, Connecticut.
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WHITFIELD: And we'll change gears when we come right back. Most people have a favorite movie, but do their favorites make it to the top 100 movie list? You might be surprised what was left off.
And while we're on the subject of movies -- the music...
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WHITFIELD: And the mayhem. For 30 years now, people have been jolted by "Jaws."
When we come back, a fond look back at this shark movie. Some producers thought at first was a turkey.
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WHITFIELD: Every week, dozens of stories slip beneath the news radar. Well, here are a few you might have missed.
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WHITFIELD (voice-over): Is it "Taps" for buglers? Many people worry it could be. On Saturday, 866 trumpeters and spanned out along 40 miles of rural New York highway to play "Taps." It was to let the nation know Uncle Sam needs more buglers to play "Taps" at military funerals.
Lots of kids throw tantrums when they don't get their way. Well, this tyke went way beyond that. When his mom wouldn't give him money for this vending machine, he crawled inside it. He had a blast with the toys for about an hour before the fire department got him out and, no, he still didn't get a toy to keep.
Heavy metal's bad boy Vince Neil has consumed a lot of vino in his day, now the Motley Crue frontman is starting his own wine label. Vince Vineyards. Don't worry, he won't be stomping the grapes himself.
And in Los Angeles, everyone recognizes "To Kill a Mockingbird" as an American classic, but it took Gregory Peck's widow to coax 79- year-old author Harper Lee to make a rare public appearance. Lee was at the Los Angeles Public Library the other night to pick up its annual literary award. Handing her the award was actor Brock Peters, he played the wrongly accused man in the 1962 movie with Gregory Peck.
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WHITFIELD: The movie that made us afraid to go into the water. And it's hard to believe that fear rippled over a 30-year period. As CNN's Sibila Vargas tells us, the horror film really took a big bite out of the box office.
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VARGAS (voice-over): The music...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Duh da, duh da.
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VARGAS: And the mayhem. For 30 years now, people have been jolted by "Jaws."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That scared the bejeezus out of me.
VARGAS: Hard to believe then that before the movie opened in 1975 Universal Studios was worried.
TOM SHONE, AUTHOR: The producers were convinced they had made the biggest turkey, because the shoot of the movie had been so troubled. And it had gone so over budget.
VARGAS: Over budget mainly because the mechanical shark playing the lead role kept breaking down.
CARL GOTTLIEB, CO-WRITER/COSTAR, "JAWS": The world was collapsing around us, and the shark wasn't working and the actors were fractious, and the crew was muttering.
VARGAS: Carl Gottlieb, author of the "Jaws" log (ph) co-wrote and co-starred in the film. He still marvels at how a young director named Steven Spielberg kept his cool.
GOTTLIEB: He held it all together. He improvised in ways that nobody was aware.
VARGAS: Spielberg made a virtue of the shark's failure to perform.
STEVEN SPIELBERG, DIRECTOR: I resorted to Hitchcockian rule, which is basically shooting the water and suggesting the shark without showing it. Having the peer go out and turn around by itself and come back again.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Take my word for it. Don't look back. Swim, swim.
VARGAS: That increased the suspense, which became evident during early test screenings.
GOTTLIEB: The people screamed, and then they screamed again, and then they jumped in their seats.
VARGAS: Then the film opened to the public and a movie industry legend was born.
SHONE: Jaws mania kind of swept the country in a grassroots kind of way.
GOTLIEB: There was a shark on the cover of "Time" magazine. And it just grew in the public consciousness.
SHONE: It really became like this kind of cultural event.
GOTTLIEB: It played and played and played, and people just kept coming. SHONE: The amount of money that "Jaws" made, you know, just completely changed the course of Hollywood, you know, moviemaking. Immediately, the first response, can we do it again? And how many times can we do it? And what about next summer? So it was the beginning of kind of Hollywood's sort of endless summer.
VARGAS (on camera): "Jaws" went on to earn an astonishing $470 million worldwide in 1975. And that's not even adjusted for inflation. Those numbers will surely increase when a special 30th edition comes out on DVD in June.
Sibila Vargas, CNN, Los Angeles.
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WHITFIELD: Well, "Jaws" no doubt made movie history, but is it one of the best films ever? Well, "Time" is -- Time.com that is -- is out with the top 100 movies of al time and listed on Time.com. And with us to talk about the list of movie magic is Mark Coatney. He's deputy editor of "Time" magazine's Web site. And joins us from the Time Warner center in New York.
Good to see you.
MARK COATNEY, TIME: Good to see you, Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: Now, the official list is going to be on your Web site starting tomorrow right. So we're getting a little preview right now.
COATNEY: Right.
WHITFIELD: All right. So, did "Jaws" make that top 100 list?
COATNY: "Jaws" did not. Although there are two Speilbergers.
WHITFIELD: Why not?
COATNEY: Well, you know -- we could only have 100.
WHITFIELD: It was impactful, no doubt, "Jaws" was.
COATNEY: Definitely did. Yes.
WHITFIELD: So, what is the criteria for this movie -- a movie to make it on the top 100?
COATNEY: Well, our critics -- our two critics had different set of criteria and we kind of merged the two. Richard Shickel, one of our long time critics at "Time" magazine looked at the list as here are 100 movies that I really like. And when Richard Corliss, the other critic was kind of coming to it, his conception was here are 100 movies that represent all of cinema.
And so we took each one of the lists and we smushed them together and there really wasn't much overlap. Each one had about 20 in common, maybe, and then we kind of fought a lot and negotiated it down to the 100 that we decided on.
WHITFIELD: Well, so Richard square almost saw eye to eye?
COATNEY: Almost. There were quite a few movies that they disagreed on. And some trading that went on in the process.
WHITFIELD: And so how did you all as a committee decide on what movies to eliminate? Was it by the genre of movie, the categories, how they impacted people or moved people, et cetera.
COATNEY: All of those things, really. And, you know, honestly, some of it would -- both critics would agree, some (INAUDIBLE) here's a movie I liked when I was 20. You know?
But -- all of those things came into play. Corliss, for instance, really insisted that we have something to represent South American cinema. So, which is why "City of God," which is a fairly new film is on the list. And Shickel felt very strongly that we should have something from the silent movie era, so we have a couple, like "Metropolis" for one, or "Sherlock Junior," which is a Buster Keaton film.
WHITFIELD: When I look at the list, though, you talk like the "City of God" which is fairly recent, within the past ten years, really recent five years even, it almost looks like of the 100, many of these movies are modern day movies. Is there a reason for that?
COATNEY: Well, not -- nothing conscious. I think that especially in the last 20 years or so, there were a lot of -- actually, the biggest decade is the 1980's, 16 films. Maybe not that many, 15 films from the 1980s. And, you know, five from post-2000.
And, you know, it is tough, because I think you are not always sure what stands the test of time. And I know for instance time hated the movies we think are great. Like we hated "Casablanca" when it came out.
WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh. But that did made it on the list, I noticed.
Let's talk about some of the movies that did make it on the list. "Finding Nemo." Can't get any more current than that. Why in the world...
COATNEY: Great film. Yes. That was Richard Corliss' big pick because he felt that we needed to represent the CGI movie, which is kind of the coming future of film. And you know, it's also just a great story. I mean, no matter what, technically brilliant but also just really nice to look at.
WHITFIELD: And "Goodfellas?"
COATNEY: "Goodfellas."
WHITFIELD: I mean, really shifting gears here quite a bit. COATNEY: Yes. We're jumping around. "Goodfellas" is one of three Scorsese films on the list. And it's probably the one that both critics agreed on most. Great, you know, kind of mob drama, maybe Scorsese's big, finest moment in the kind of themes that he kind of touches on through a lot of his movies, the kind of Italian-American mafia movie.
WHITFIELD: Well, "Goodfellas" was in, I didn't necessarily see any of the "Godfathers" on there.
COATNEY: Oh, no, no. "Godfather" Part 1 and 2. Not part 3, but part 1 and 2.
WHITFIELD: I must have overlooked that.
COATNEY: Yep.
WHITFIELD: All right.
"Dr. Strangelove" that's Stanley Kubrick's film.
COATNEY: Very fun film and very much of its time, the kind of Cold War paranoia thing. Peter Sellers is brilliant playing all these different roles. One of Stanley Kubrick's great films, too.
WHITFIELD: "Some Like It Hot."
COATNEY: "Some Like It Hot."
WHITFIELD: Quite memorable for most.
COATNEY: Quite memorable. Quite memorable. Great performances from Jack Lemons, Tony Curtis and Marilyn Monroe.
Although, interestingly enough, when that came out, "Time" magazine kind of said that, you know, Marilyn's been skinnier and sexier in other pictures and they didn't really think that much of it. But looking back, it's truly a classic.
WHITFIELD: And few would argue that "It's A Wonderful Life" deserves a spot on that list.
COATNEY: Well, that's one of those movies that you almost just have to put on there. And we looked at it as, yes, everyone has seen it a million times. And it's become kind of this cliche, but really, just sit down with it with fresh eyes and it's a really nice film, really well done. Jimmy Stewart's probably never been better. And it tells a really compelling, family story.
WHITFIELD: Are you afraid that some folks might at the list and say, wait a minute, are they kidding me? Like "The Fly" for instance. The remake and not necessarily the original.
COATNEY: Right.
Well, The Fly" was our biggest fight, actually. Because Corliss insisted on that, and Shickel thought it was appalling as a film. And, you know, I can see some of those sides. But really, the idea behind "The Fly' was that it, you know, it's not just a gross picture, but if you think of it as kind of a metaphor for anything, like aging or dying of cancer, something like that, it's the idea of like bad things that can happen in your life and how you deal with them.
WHITFIELD: And trying to transform yourself.
COATNEY: Right. Exactly.
WHITFIELD: And a couple of things that we here notice not on the list and we were aghast, like "To Kill a Mockingbird." Not on the list. No "Sound of Music." Did I overlook that one? No "Sound of Music" on this list?
COATNEY: No. No "Sound of Music." No.
WHITFIELD: What is going on here?
COATNEY: Well, again, we had to pick 100. There were -- we got down into the 110, 120s and then we really started to just drop off movies that we really liked. "Blue Velvet" was one that I really liked. And that was probably our 101st movie and we had to drop that one, too.
WHITFIELD: And "National Velvet." I don't think I saw that on there, speaking of velvets.
COATNEY: No. No "National Velvet."
WHITFIELD: Next time, consult me, Mark.
COATNEY: You're our first phone call.
WHITFIELD: All right. Mark Coatney, thank so much, of Time.com. And just in case you want to see more, or learn a little bit more of all of these movies, check out Time.com where you will see the listing starting tomorrow. All right. Thanks a lot, Mark.
COATNEY: All right. Thank you.
WHITFIELD: Well, don't move. A countdown is straight ahead. And when we come back, an egg-citing blast off worth nine grand.
And when on vacation, get a deal on wheels. Tips that'll save you cash on car rentals.
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WHITFIELD: A marathon Saturday along a section of China's Great Wall attracted hundreds of runners from 35 countries. Many said they came just for the thrill of racing atop one of the world's greatest marvels. The winner was an American man that lived in Shanghai.
And yes, Virginia (ph), it really is rocket science. The goal was to launch two raw eggs and have them land exactly 60 seconds later without breaking, of course. Well, a 4-H club from Minnesota beat out 99 other teams to claim the $9,000 top prize.
Always a lot of fun making science fun.
All right. About an hour from now, a little over that, Carol Lin picks up straight ahead with CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: 12 minutes from now.
WHITFIELD:: Oh my gosh.
LIN: I know, normally I talk to you in the 4:00 hour.
WHITFIELD: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
LIN: This is your new show.
WHITFIELD: Oh, this Sunday is confusing me.
LIN: Well, we will unconfuse you.
WHITFIELD: All right. Straighten it out.
LIN: All week long, we've been talking about the filibuster fight. We've had our own filibuster in the news about the filibuster. Carlos Watson, our CNN political analyst, has a new segment on the show called "Fresh Take" and he actually has some really interesting news that's coming out of the filibuster fight about a political phoenix rising from the ashes from his racist remarks that lost his very high profile, powerful position as senate majority leader. He may be making a political come back through the...
WHITFIELD: Getting some new points. Gaining some points.
LIN: And gaining some points, exactly.
10:00 tonight, Fredricka, I just interviewed -- I just pretaped an interview with an American scientist who was actually assisting the South Koreans in developing these new therapeutic lines of stem cells. They were able to clone human cells which could grow to be human tissue.
WHITFIELD: And that effort on his behalf being very controversial now, too.
LIN: Very controversial. And but for him, very poignant. He had just lost his mother to Alzheimer's this year, one of the diseases that may benefit from stem cell research. So he's here -- we talked about what it was like for him to watch these developments, what it really means and how it plays into the political debate as the House votes on expanding federal funding on Tuesday for stem cell research and President Bush's position on the issue.
WHITFIELD: Fantastic. We'll be looking for all that.
Thanks a lot.
WHITFIELD: Thank you.
Well, get ready to hit the road. We'll give you the dollars and cents on car rentals when CNN LIVE SUNDAY returns.
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WHITFIELD: As Memorial Day approaches, you may be preparing to hit the road on vacation. If you're renting a car, we'll tell you how to get the best deals in our "Dollars and Sense" segment. With us, Vera Gibbons, contributing editor for Kiplingers Personal Finance. She joins us from Boston. Good to see you.
VERA GIBBONS, KIPLINGERS: Nice to see you, Fredricka.
WHITFIELD: All right. Well, does there seem to be a peak and nonpeak season when it comes to car rentals?
GIBBONS: Yes. And it does become tougher this time of year to find those good rates. In part because we are getting into a busy season, but also because this is an industry with a rates are changing constantly. They're literally hundreds if not thousands of rate changes every day.
I would -- one thing you want to do if you're in the market of a car rental is make sure you get the total rate up front, not the base rate, because there are a lot of fees and those can easily put a dent in your budget.
In fact, a study done by Consumers Reports Web Watch found that fees higher than most other travel products including airfare, hotel rooms, cruise lines and vacation packages. But if you search early on, you can probably find something, but I would definitely factor in those fees.
WHITFIELD: So often that happens. You think you got a good rate, and then come to find out there are fees and taxes, they just go on and on and on.
GIBBONS: Yes.
WHITFIELD: So, is it unavoidable? I mean, yes, you can ask up front, give me the total rate package. But are some of those fees, perhaps unavoidable?
GIBBONS: Yes. Taxes are the ones that are definitely unavoidable. What happens is, the car rental companies get taxed by the local government to fund projects such as stadiums, convention centers. And they pass those taxes right on to you, the consumer. The out of town vacationing visitor. Those taxes really pack a mean punch, particularly if you've rented at an airport.
Taxes add 26 percent on average to the base rate according to a study by Travelocity. And if you rented a car in Houston at Houston's Bush Intercontinental Airport, you paid an additional 66 percent beyond that base rate.
WHITFIELD: Interesting.
Now, auto insurance. Boy does that tricky.
GIBBONS: Yes.
WHITFIELD: You have got your own insurance, but then sometimes you go rent a car and they try to talk you into getting theirs. What is the right thing to do?
GIBBONS: Well, if you have comprehensive and collision coverage through your own auto policy and you've got supplemental coverage through your credit card company, you're probably all set on this one. But what you don't know could cost you.
So, what I would suggest you do is make a couple of calls before you hit the counter. Call your insurance agent, find out how generous your collision coverage is. It may in fact be limited to the value of your car. Also, call your credit card company. Do I have primary coverage? Do I have secondary coverage? Are there various exclusions? And if you're worried about theft of your belongings, then of course, you want to check your homeowners' policy.
But the bottom line here, Fredricka, is you don't want to wait until you get to the counter to make a decision. You want to know what you have got in advance, because you could end up being covered four times over.
WHITFIELD: Wow. And you know, you can save a whole lot of money if it turns out your own insurance covers that rental policy.
GIBBONS: Yes. But part of the problem is the scare tactics that the reps use at the counter to get you to buy that insurance. So, you have got to be careful there.
WHITFIELD:: No kidding.
Now, why is it not so quick to rent a car these days? Why is it taking so long. Why is it taking so long on some occasions?
GIBBONS: Yes, this is interesting. A J.D. Powers survey, 2004 survey, found that it's taking 43 percent of all car rental customers had to wait an average of 14 minutes to get their car, plus another eight minutes for the shuttle. And this is up from 12 minutes in 2003. And that is in large part because a lot of these facilities have been consolidated. You've got all these airports having the car rental companies all under one roof. And for security purposes and to reduce suggestion, they are running fewer shuttles to and from these consolitaded facilities. So, it's taking awhile to get your car.
WHITFIELD; All right. Vera Gibbons, thanks so much. Kiplingers Personal Finance. Thanks for joining us from Boston.
GIBBONS: Thanks.
WHITFIELD: All right. That's going to do it for us. Carol Lin's up next as CNN SUNDAY LIVE (sic) continues. And don't forget 8:00 Eastern, CNN Presents "Autism Is A World."
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