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Man, 82, Arrested for Stockpiling Weapons; 'Gimme a Minute'; Tom Cruise Starts Debate over Postpartum Depression
Aired June 03, 2005 - 08:30 ET
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BILL HEMMER, CO-HOST: Good morning, everybody; 8:30 here in New York. Good to have you along with us today.
CAROL COSTELLO, CO-HOST: I'm Carol Costello, in for Soledad today. Coming up, a discovery in a New Jersey home that defies explanation.
HEMMER: An 80-year-old couple living in a home overflowing with guns. Hundreds and hundreds of them stacked up, hidden away. We'll find out what's happening there in New Jersey in a moment.
COSTELLO: Yes, we will. Right now, let's check on the headlines with Valerie Morris.
Good morning.
VALERIE MORRIS, ANCHOR: Good morning again, Carol and Bill. And good morning everyone.
Now in the news, pop star Michael Jackson will soon learn his fate. Jurors in the Jackson trial could begin their first day of deliberations today. Jackson's lawyers are expected to wrap up their closing arguments. Proceedings get underway in the next three hours.
Turning now to Iraq, a car bomb exploded as a U.S. military convoy passed this morning. At least four Iraqi civilians were injured. There were no American casualties.
North of Baghdad at least 10 Iraqis were killed in an attack late Thursday. The incident was believed to have been a suicide car a bombing.
The family of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba is offering a reward for her safe return. Natalee Holloway was on vacation with classmates but failed to show up for her flight home Monday. Her mother is now in Aruba, helping with that search.
A New York state board votes today on a $2 billion football stadium in Manhattan. The West Side stadium is said to be crucial in the bid for the 2012 Olympics. The Olympics committee is expected to decide on a location next month.
And how do you spell success? Well, for one eighth grader from California, it goes something like this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANURAQ KASHYAP, SPELLING BEE CHAMPION: Appoggiatura. A-p-p-o-g- g-i-a-t-u-r-a.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORRIS: Thirteen-year-old Anurag Kashyap beat out more than 270 others to win this year's national spelling bee contest. And he will join us live in our studio next hour.
HEMMER: He ripped right through that thing, didn't he?
MORRIS: The speed with -- yes...
HEMMER: C-A-T. Cat.
MORRIS: The speed with which they spell is always just kind of amazing.
COSTELLO: I like when he ran over to his dad and gave him a big hug. It touched my heart.
MORRIS: And the second place guy yelled "yay" for a word that he was given, because he said his mom had pointed it out to him a couple of days before.
HEMMER: Cool.
COSTELLO: Very cool.
HEMMER: Thanks, Val.
COSTELLO: In the news this morning also, an 82-year-old man has been arrested for keeping an enormous stockpile of guns and ammunition. New Jersey police stumbled onto the arsenal when they brought his wife, who suffers from Alzheimer's, back to the couple's home.
Mary Snow has more for you.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For decades even police in this town knew this as the home of Doc Raymond, as they call him, and his wife, known to be very quiet. So it came as a shock to both residents and police when officers say they discovered an arsenal of weapons.
DET. ROBERT WILLIAMS, RIDGEFIELD, N.J., POLICE: The first time we went into the house, it was amazing. The guns were stacked everywhere. The guns in the basement, you could hardly move through.
SNOW: Police say they found nearly 500 guns, from handguns to AK-47s, from guns in books to guns in the attic. They say over 100,000 rounds of ammunition was found, along with 800 pounds of black gun powder. The National Guard was called in to help remove it, and police arrested 82-year-old Sherwin Raymond but still have more questions than answers.
CHIEF JOHN BOGAVOCH, RIDGEFIELD, N.J., POLICE: We believe at this point in time that he was just an obsessive gun collector. It went beyond just being an avid gun collector to an obsession.
SNOW: Police are investigating how he obtained the guns, since he has a record. Authorities say in 1975, he pled guilty to having an unregistered machine gun. In the 1960s, according to investigators, Raymond served three years in prison for performing what was at that time illegal abortions.
Raymond is now charged with creating a hazardous situation. Police say he stored hundreds of pounds of ammunition in the garage.
BOGAVOCH: If there ever would have been a fire there, there would have -- there would have been deaths.
BUZ ILCH, DAYCARE CENTER DIRECTOR: I'm just shocked that someone would stockpile all this in their home.
SNOW: Buz Ilch runs a daycare center across the street. For him and other long-time residents like Detective Williams, this quiet street will never be the same.
WILLIAMS: Prior to Monday, I thought he was a nice old guy. After seeing the condition it was, no responsible person would store the ammunition, the guns, the black powder, the way he did.
SNOW: The sheriff's department says that Sherwin Raymond posted $25,000 bond. But attempts to reach him were unsuccessful.
(on camera) Police say that he was in the hospital undergoing dialysis and that he did not ask to have an attorney represent him.
Mary Snow, CNN, New York.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COSTELLO: And federal authorities are checking to see if any of the guns has been used in a crime.
HEMMER: Twenty-five minutes now before the hour. Carol, time for "Gimme a Minute" on a Friday, our fast look back at the week's biggest stories. Some of them, anyway.
From Philly this morning, Republican strategist Joe Watkins.
Joe, good morning down there.
JOE WATKINS, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Good morning, Bill.
HEMMER: Here in New York City, Air America Radio's Rachel Maddow back with us. Rachel, good morning on a Friday.
RACHEL MADDOW, AIR AMERICA RADIO HOST: Hi. Nice to see you.
HEMMER: Also, from West Palm Beach, Florida, Andy Borowitz of BorowitzReport.com wearing his sunscreen. We hope.
Good morning there, Drew.
ANDY BOROWITZ, BOROWITZREPORT.COM: Hi, Bill.
HEMMER: First topic, Joe, for you today, President Bush No. 41 says he'd like to see his son, Jeb, run for president. Is he going to get his wish some day?
WATKINS: Well, I hope so. Jeb Bush would be a great president. I know he said that he doesn't want to do it and that he won't do it, but he's had a great record as the two-term governor of Florida. And I know him. I have high personal regard and professional regard for him. He'd be a tremendous candidate for the presidency.
HEMMER: Does father know best, Rachel?
MADDOW: I hope not. You know, in the Bible, there were 10 plagues. It was blood, frogs, lice and flies. And for liberal and mainstream Americans another Bush presidency is like a plague of Bushes, somewhere between lice and flies. We are searching the Old Testament for hope at this point.
HEMMER: Andy?
BOROWITZ: You know, speaking selfishly as a comedian, the Bush I'd like to see run is Jenna. She'd be great.
HEMMER: Only as a comedian, though, right?
BOROWITZ: Exactly.
HEMMER: Second topic, Rachel, a state senator in Michigan wants a law that requires movie theaters to post a real start time for movies, which means you skip the -- you skip the commercials, you skip the trailers. Is this the stuff of lawmakers, really?
MADDOW: Well, you know, it's interesting. I agree with him on the ads. I kind of like the trailers myself. But the thing that I really would like them to do something about, I want a remote control or a TiVo or something for during the movie so I don't have to look at the product placements. I feel like those are ads, too. And I paid my 10 bucks. I don't want to see them.
HEMMER: Hey, Joe, do you support a law like this? Is this a waste of time?
WATKINS: I think it's a waste of time. You know, at the end of the day, I want to see those trailers. I want to see the ads. I want to see all the other movies that are going to be coming in the coming weeks and months. I like that stuff. And I also like the ads about the popcorn. It gets me excited and ready for the movie.
HEMMER: Well, you lead one boring life, don't you? Andy?
BOROWITZ: I'll go one better. I think theaters should tell you the exact time that Tara Reid takes her clothes off. That would be important to me.
HEMMER: Call the Moviefone guy, right?
Our third topic, Joe, Deep Throat, is Mark Felt a villain or is he a hero? What do you think?
WATKINS: Clearly not a hero. Clearly not a hero. It's not a proud day when the No. 1 man at the FBI works with the press to take down the president of the United States. Not a hero at all. And if he was so proud of it, he probably would have come out a lot sooner and let the world know that he was Deep Throat.
HEMMER: Rachel, what about it?
MADDOW: I think that he's not a hero as a person. I do think that he did a heroic thing.
One surprise to me here is the media has been interviewing people like G. Gordon Liddy and Chuck Colson, the convicted felons from Watergate, asking them whether they think that Mark Felt is an honorable guy. I think we need full disclosure. They should be required to wear black and white prison stripes if we're not going to mention that they're felons.
HEMMER: Hero or villain, Andy?
BOROWITZ: You know, I am so over Deep Throat. I'm ready to move on to other mysteries. For example, what is Toure's last name? I want to know.
HEMMER: Let the investigation begin today.
Under the radar, Rachel start us off. What did we miss this past week?
MADDOW: There is a state senator in the state of Kansas. Her name is Kay O'Connor. She announced this week that she wants to run for secretary of state. She wants to be the top elections official in Kansas. One problem with her campaign, she's on record as opposing women's suffrage. She doesn't think that women should be allowed to vote. She is my conservative poster child of the week and my underreported story of the week.
HEMMER: Who's your poster child, Joe?
WATKINS: Well, underreported story would have to be all the Democrats now who beat up Tom DeLay, who are now scurrying to get their travel records in. One Democrat from Maryland is just turning in records from 1997. Shame on you.
HEMMER: Ooh, could be the beginning. Andy, what about it?
BOROWITZ: Here's a shocker, Bill. A man who claims Viagra made him blind says he had sex with the wrong person for two years.
HEMMER: To be read about in your next book of shockers, right, Andy?
BOROWITZ: Exactly. Exactly. Thanks for the plug.
HEMMER: Hey listen, and remember the sunscreen, OK?
BOROWITZ: I will.
HEMMER: See you, Andy; see you, Rachel; see you, Joe. Have a great weekend.
WATKINS: Thanks, Bill.
MADDOW: Thanks, Bill.
HEMMER: OK. "Gimme a Minute" on a Friday.
Want to check out the weather right now, speaking of sunscreen. Here's Chad Myers at the CNN Center. What's happening?
(WEATHER REPORT)
HEMMER: Well, you were saying they're going to get, what, 36 hours of rain in Atlanta, straight? Did you get it?
CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: You know, it's been raining since Saturday. I finally got about 15 minutes in between the rain showers to get the lawn mowed, because it was getting about that tall. And the neighbors were starting to complain.
COSTELLO: Well, it was like that all of May for us.
HEMMER: That's true. No pity. See you, Chad.
That big jobs report is out for the month of May. Andy breaks it down in a moment here. He's back "Minding Your Business.
COSTELLO: Plus, Tom Cruise raising eyebrows by just saying it just takes vitamins and exercise to treat postpartum depression. We'll ask a doctor about that and find out what really works. That's next on AMERICAN MORNING.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
COSTELLO: A lot of people are talking about statements from Tom Cruise last week on "Access Hollywood." The star, who is a scientologist, criticized Brooke Shields for treating her post partum depression with Paxil.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOM CRUISE, ACTOR: Here's a woman, and I care about Brooke Shields, because I think here's a woman who is incredibly talented. You look at where has her career gone? It has helped her. It has -- when someone says that it's helped them, it's cope. But it didn't cure anything. There's no science. There's nothing that can cure them whatsoever.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSTELLO: We should note, scientologists, like Cruise, consider modern psychiatry and its medications to be harmful.
But does Tom Cruise have a point about how women should treat postpartum depression? Dr. Stephen Hotze is author of the book "Hormones, Health and Happiness." And the doctor joins me now.
Brooke Shields calls Tom Cruise's statements dangerous. What do you think?
DR. STEPHEN HOTZE, AUTHOR, "HORMONES, HEALTH AND HAPPINESS": Postpartum depression is not caused by a lack of vitamins or exercise. It's caused by a hormonal decline and imbalance of a key hormone, called progesterone, which is a hormone of pregnancy.
When a woman's pregnant, the baby's placenta makes enormous amounts of progesterone to promote gestation, promote pregnancy. When the baby is delivered, and the placenta is delivered, there is a dramatic fall in progesterone, and that can cause significant mood problems in women. Sometimes it can be sometimes mild depression, port partum blues. But later it can in some women lead to more severe depression.
COSTELLO: And that's what Brooke Shields was experiencing.
HOTZE: She has.
COSTELLO: She appeared on "PAULA ZAHN," and this is how she described her postpartum depression.
HOTZE: OK.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BROOKE SHIELDS, ACTRESS: First what you hear is it's just the baby blues, you'll get over it. So that's the first cause for shame, because you don't get over it. And it's not getting better. So that must mean the problem's with you. You must be the problem. All these other mothers are getting over it. So it's you.
Then when you get past that and there's talk of postpartum depression, the first reaction is no, no, those are the women that you read about the newspapers that do horrible things to their children. That's not me.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
COSTELLO: And I think the scariest part of what she was feeling is she felt absolutely no connection to her newborn baby.
HOTZE: Well, this is not uncommon at all. But oftentimes, this is something women never tell their physicians or their husbands or their family members. Because they feel like Brooke did, they feel ashamed.
But they should, and I think Brooke Shields did a good job when she felt that way to seek medical care and then to get some help.
Now, the help she got was antidepressants. The real question is, is that really going to solve the problem?
COSTELLO: And that's the crux of what Tom Cruise was saying, that her postpartum depression came from -- well, he intimated this -- came from the emptiness in her life, not exactly from having the baby and the after-effects.
HOTZE: Well, I would say, just from a medical point of view, clearly, her depression is caused by a dramatic fall and an imbalance in the hormone, particularly progesterone. And that can be simply taken care of by replacing that and supplementing natural progesterone in a woman after she's had a child.
COSTELLO: We have some symptoms of postpartum depression that we want to put up for women out there. The first sign is hopelessness. Anxiety, a lack of interest in your baby, feelings of guilt or in not being a good mother and restlessness. When did you know that it's time to seek help?
HOTZE: Well, if you're having problems -- if you have problems thinking about harming yourself or harming your child, it would be time to seek help. But I think it's key that the help you need to seek is a natural, safe and effective way and that's the use of natural progesterone.
I talk about that in my book, "Hormones, Health and Happiness." And I think that would be very important for women to read, especially as they approach a delivery of a child.
COSTELLO: OK.
HOTZE: My daughter is getting ready to have a baby, as a matter of fact, and she has her -- this week in New York. And she's going to take her progesterone to the hospital and take it as soon as she has her baby.
COSTELLO: Really? Even though she may show no sign of postpartum depression?
HOTZE: Well, she -- every woman has a dramatic drop in progesterone. And that helps calm the water so they don't have those, even the postpartum blues.
COSTELLO: Thank you, doctor, for clarifying things for us. Appreciate it.
HOTZE: Thank you. My pleasure.
COSTELLO: Dr. Stephen Hotze, the author of "Hormones, Health and Happiness." And again, thanks for being with us.
HOTZE: My pleasure.
COSTELLO: Bill.
HOTZE: All right, Carol. In a moment, Andy has the jobs report and Jack has a house cleaning orangutan. True story. That's next here on AMERICAN MORNING, right after this.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
HEMMER: Welcome back.
JACK CAFFERTY, CO-HOST: The big monthly jobs report out just a few minutes ago. Here with the details, Andy Serwer, "Minding Your Business."
They missed it by a country mile again, didn't they?
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Yes, 100,000 is a country mile, no question. We have a weak jobs report to tell you about this morning for the month of May. Economists looking for 175,000 jobs. They only got 78,000.
Unemployment rate ticks down from 5.2 percent to 5.1 percent. But they're really going to be concentrating on the fact that not as many jobs were created as anticipated.
However, the bad news could be good news for Wall Street, because it means that inflation is likely not -- is not likely, excuse me, to be a problem going forward, or at least that would be the perception. And in fact, bonds are moving up the prices, interest rates are falling and stock futures are moving ahead.
Speaking of Wall Street, deals are back on Wall Street. So much so, that it reminded us of a fictional icon from the 1980s. Check this out.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MICHAEL DOUGLAS, ACTOR: Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies and cuts through and captures.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SERWER: Yes, that's Michael Douglas in his Oscar winning role as Gordon Gekko in the 1987 film "Wall Street." And at "Fortune" magazine we decided to do a story about deals being back on Wall Street, and we asked Michael Douglas to pose, to reprise his role as Gordon Gekko for this cover story. As you can see here.
And Jack, it's interesting. We talked to him a little bit about his role as Gordon Gekko. And you know, he loves it. He won the Oscar. Then he says a lot of times, people on Wall Street will come up to him, he says usually when they're well-oiled, to quote his phrase, and say, "You know what? You were my inspiration. You were what made me go to Wall Street."
And Michael Douglas says, he goes, "But Gordon Gekko was the bad guy!"
CAFFERTY: Yes.
SERWER: But I think that speaks volumes about some of the types down on the street, as they say.
CAFFERTY: About the culture of Wall Street in general, that's true.
SERWER: That's right. And we were talking about hedge funds and buyout funds and how powerful they are today in buying companies like Burger King and Maytag and Neiman Marcus and Sears and K-Mart, all run by Wall Street types these days.
CAFFERTY: A little scary.
SERWER: It is.
But it's fun, because greed, greed is good.
CAFFERTY: Greed is good.
Thank you, Andy.
SERWER: You're welcome.
CAFFERTY: Time for "The File."
The town of Brookville, Massachusetts, has passed a nonbinding resolution that makes it a policy of the town to discourage parents and child care workers from using corporal punishment.
The resolution's sponsor, he tried to say, is a guy named Ronald Goldman, says spanking children can leave long-term emotional bruises. And if you hit them hard enough, it will leave physical bruises, too.
He cites studies that show corporal punishment tests contribute to negative -- all the things. Anyway, Massachusetts, one of -- this is too long. Massachusetts, one of 27 states to prohibit corporal punishment in schools. And now the town of Brookville wants to stick its nose into the private affairs of families.
HEMMER: Wow.
CAFFERTY: What you're smelling affects the way you're driving. For example, a British study found fast food increases the likelihood of road rage. The aroma of fresh bread or pastries, on the other hand, can cause a driver to speed up, because it makes you hungry. Other smells like peppermint, cinnamon, lemon or coffee, improve a driver's concentration.
The study's authors say more than any other sense, the sense of smell circumnavigates the logical part of the brain. Could have fooled me. But be careful about choosing a neutral smelling car interior, because studies of astronauts found odorless environments cause irritability. And even hallucinations.
SERWER: So that's my problem.
CAFFERTY: That's one of them.
SERWER: Yes.
CAFFERTY: And finally this, hard work being the only clean primate in the cage. Ask a 49-year-old orangutan in Tokyo's Tama Zoo. This is Gypsy. She spends her days cleaning the cage. Human handlers bring her buckets of water, and she starts by washing the floor and the walls.
HEMMER: Look at that.
CAFFERTY: She also keeps herself clean, wipes the dirt and sweat off when she's through. Gypsy likes to garden. She always wears her sun hat. And she lives with four other orangutans who are just layabouts. Two daughters, a granddaughter and son-in-law. None of them help with the chores. She's the only one.
This is moderately decent orangutan video. But the best monkey video we ever had in "The Cafferty File" is this. This is a chimpanzee in a zoo in Israel who developed some stomach problems and took to walking around upright. Just like a real person.
COSTELLO: That is freaky looking.
CAFFERTY: And there's -- it's absolutely the only reason we chose to reshow this, is it's freaky looking.
SERWER: What about that? Remember the smoking one too, Jack.
CAFFERTY: That's true. I like this one, the one that stood up straight.
SERWER: The standing up monkey.
HEMMER: The smoker was in, what, South Africa. They're trying to get him to quit.
SERWER: Crazy monkeys all around the globe.
HEMMER: Right here.
COSTELLO: Right here on AMERICAN MORNING.
In a moment, though, we'll have something more important, the new national spelling bee champ.
SERWER: No, no.
COSTELLO: He is more important than the standing-up chimp. Anyway, the champ joins us live in the studio. Last year, he finished 47th. Find out what he did differently this year to win. That's just ahead on AMERICAN MORNING.
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Aired June 3, 2005 - 08:30 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
BILL HEMMER, CO-HOST: Good morning, everybody; 8:30 here in New York. Good to have you along with us today.
CAROL COSTELLO, CO-HOST: I'm Carol Costello, in for Soledad today. Coming up, a discovery in a New Jersey home that defies explanation.
HEMMER: An 80-year-old couple living in a home overflowing with guns. Hundreds and hundreds of them stacked up, hidden away. We'll find out what's happening there in New Jersey in a moment.
COSTELLO: Yes, we will. Right now, let's check on the headlines with Valerie Morris.
Good morning.
VALERIE MORRIS, ANCHOR: Good morning again, Carol and Bill. And good morning everyone.
Now in the news, pop star Michael Jackson will soon learn his fate. Jurors in the Jackson trial could begin their first day of deliberations today. Jackson's lawyers are expected to wrap up their closing arguments. Proceedings get underway in the next three hours.
Turning now to Iraq, a car bomb exploded as a U.S. military convoy passed this morning. At least four Iraqi civilians were injured. There were no American casualties.
North of Baghdad at least 10 Iraqis were killed in an attack late Thursday. The incident was believed to have been a suicide car a bombing.
The family of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba is offering a reward for her safe return. Natalee Holloway was on vacation with classmates but failed to show up for her flight home Monday. Her mother is now in Aruba, helping with that search.
A New York state board votes today on a $2 billion football stadium in Manhattan. The West Side stadium is said to be crucial in the bid for the 2012 Olympics. The Olympics committee is expected to decide on a location next month.
And how do you spell success? Well, for one eighth grader from California, it goes something like this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANURAQ KASHYAP, SPELLING BEE CHAMPION: Appoggiatura. A-p-p-o-g- g-i-a-t-u-r-a.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORRIS: Thirteen-year-old Anurag Kashyap beat out more than 270 others to win this year's national spelling bee contest. And he will join us live in our studio next hour.
HEMMER: He ripped right through that thing, didn't he?
MORRIS: The speed with -- yes...
HEMMER: C-A-T. Cat.
MORRIS: The speed with which they spell is always just kind of amazing.
COSTELLO: I like when he ran over to his dad and gave him a big hug. It touched my heart.
MORRIS: And the second place guy yelled "yay" for a word that he was given, because he said his mom had pointed it out to him a couple of days before.
HEMMER: Cool.
COSTELLO: Very cool.
HEMMER: Thanks, Val.
COSTELLO: In the news this morning also, an 82-year-old man has been arrested for keeping an enormous stockpile of guns and ammunition. New Jersey police stumbled onto the arsenal when they brought his wife, who suffers from Alzheimer's, back to the couple's home.
Mary Snow has more for you.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For decades even police in this town knew this as the home of Doc Raymond, as they call him, and his wife, known to be very quiet. So it came as a shock to both residents and police when officers say they discovered an arsenal of weapons.
DET. ROBERT WILLIAMS, RIDGEFIELD, N.J., POLICE: The first time we went into the house, it was amazing. The guns were stacked everywhere. The guns in the basement, you could hardly move through.
SNOW: Police say they found nearly 500 guns, from handguns to AK-47s, from guns in books to guns in the attic. They say over 100,000 rounds of ammunition was found, along with 800 pounds of black gun powder. The National Guard was called in to help remove it, and police arrested 82-year-old Sherwin Raymond but still have more questions than answers.
CHIEF JOHN BOGAVOCH, RIDGEFIELD, N.J., POLICE: We believe at this point in time that he was just an obsessive gun collector. It went beyond just being an avid gun collector to an obsession.
SNOW: Police are investigating how he obtained the guns, since he has a record. Authorities say in 1975, he pled guilty to having an unregistered machine gun. In the 1960s, according to investigators, Raymond served three years in prison for performing what was at that time illegal abortions.
Raymond is now charged with creating a hazardous situation. Police say he stored hundreds of pounds of ammunition in the garage.
BOGAVOCH: If there ever would have been a fire there, there would have -- there would have been deaths.
BUZ ILCH, DAYCARE CENTER DIRECTOR: I'm just shocked that someone would stockpile all this in their home.
SNOW: Buz Ilch runs a daycare center across the street. For him and other long-time residents like Detective Williams, this quiet street will never be the same.
WILLIAMS: Prior to Monday, I thought he was a nice old guy. After seeing the condition it was, no responsible person would store the ammunition, the guns, the black powder, the way he did.
SNOW: The sheriff's department says that Sherwin Raymond posted $25,000 bond. But attempts to reach him were unsuccessful.
(on camera) Police say that he was in the hospital undergoing dialysis and that he did not ask to have an attorney represent him.
Mary Snow, CNN, New York.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
COSTELLO: And federal authorities are checking to see if any of the guns has been used in a crime.
HEMMER: Twenty-five minutes now before the hour. Carol, time for "Gimme a Minute" on a Friday, our fast look back at the week's biggest stories. Some of them, anyway.
From Philly this morning, Republican strategist Joe Watkins.
Joe, good morning down there.
JOE WATKINS, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Good morning, Bill.
HEMMER: Here in New York City, Air America Radio's Rachel Maddow back with us. Rachel, good morning on a Friday.
RACHEL MADDOW, AIR AMERICA RADIO HOST: Hi. Nice to see you.
HEMMER: Also, from West Palm Beach, Florida, Andy Borowitz of BorowitzReport.com wearing his sunscreen. We hope.
Good morning there, Drew.
ANDY BOROWITZ, BOROWITZREPORT.COM: Hi, Bill.
HEMMER: First topic, Joe, for you today, President Bush No. 41 says he'd like to see his son, Jeb, run for president. Is he going to get his wish some day?
WATKINS: Well, I hope so. Jeb Bush would be a great president. I know he said that he doesn't want to do it and that he won't do it, but he's had a great record as the two-term governor of Florida. And I know him. I have high personal regard and professional regard for him. He'd be a tremendous candidate for the presidency.
HEMMER: Does father know best, Rachel?
MADDOW: I hope not. You know, in the Bible, there were 10 plagues. It was blood, frogs, lice and flies. And for liberal and mainstream Americans another Bush presidency is like a plague of Bushes, somewhere between lice and flies. We are searching the Old Testament for hope at this point.
HEMMER: Andy?
BOROWITZ: You know, speaking selfishly as a comedian, the Bush I'd like to see run is Jenna. She'd be great.
HEMMER: Only as a comedian, though, right?
BOROWITZ: Exactly.
HEMMER: Second topic, Rachel, a state senator in Michigan wants a law that requires movie theaters to post a real start time for movies, which means you skip the -- you skip the commercials, you skip the trailers. Is this the stuff of lawmakers, really?
MADDOW: Well, you know, it's interesting. I agree with him on the ads. I kind of like the trailers myself. But the thing that I really would like them to do something about, I want a remote control or a TiVo or something for during the movie so I don't have to look at the product placements. I feel like those are ads, too. And I paid my 10 bucks. I don't want to see them.
HEMMER: Hey, Joe, do you support a law like this? Is this a waste of time?
WATKINS: I think it's a waste of time. You know, at the end of the day, I want to see those trailers. I want to see the ads. I want to see all the other movies that are going to be coming in the coming weeks and months. I like that stuff. And I also like the ads about the popcorn. It gets me excited and ready for the movie.
HEMMER: Well, you lead one boring life, don't you? Andy?
BOROWITZ: I'll go one better. I think theaters should tell you the exact time that Tara Reid takes her clothes off. That would be important to me.
HEMMER: Call the Moviefone guy, right?
Our third topic, Joe, Deep Throat, is Mark Felt a villain or is he a hero? What do you think?
WATKINS: Clearly not a hero. Clearly not a hero. It's not a proud day when the No. 1 man at the FBI works with the press to take down the president of the United States. Not a hero at all. And if he was so proud of it, he probably would have come out a lot sooner and let the world know that he was Deep Throat.
HEMMER: Rachel, what about it?
MADDOW: I think that he's not a hero as a person. I do think that he did a heroic thing.
One surprise to me here is the media has been interviewing people like G. Gordon Liddy and Chuck Colson, the convicted felons from Watergate, asking them whether they think that Mark Felt is an honorable guy. I think we need full disclosure. They should be required to wear black and white prison stripes if we're not going to mention that they're felons.
HEMMER: Hero or villain, Andy?
BOROWITZ: You know, I am so over Deep Throat. I'm ready to move on to other mysteries. For example, what is Toure's last name? I want to know.
HEMMER: Let the investigation begin today.
Under the radar, Rachel start us off. What did we miss this past week?
MADDOW: There is a state senator in the state of Kansas. Her name is Kay O'Connor. She announced this week that she wants to run for secretary of state. She wants to be the top elections official in Kansas. One problem with her campaign, she's on record as opposing women's suffrage. She doesn't think that women should be allowed to vote. She is my conservative poster child of the week and my underreported story of the week.
HEMMER: Who's your poster child, Joe?
WATKINS: Well, underreported story would have to be all the Democrats now who beat up Tom DeLay, who are now scurrying to get their travel records in. One Democrat from Maryland is just turning in records from 1997. Shame on you.
HEMMER: Ooh, could be the beginning. Andy, what about it?
BOROWITZ: Here's a shocker, Bill. A man who claims Viagra made him blind says he had sex with the wrong person for two years.
HEMMER: To be read about in your next book of shockers, right, Andy?
BOROWITZ: Exactly. Exactly. Thanks for the plug.
HEMMER: Hey listen, and remember the sunscreen, OK?
BOROWITZ: I will.
HEMMER: See you, Andy; see you, Rachel; see you, Joe. Have a great weekend.
WATKINS: Thanks, Bill.
MADDOW: Thanks, Bill.
HEMMER: OK. "Gimme a Minute" on a Friday.
Want to check out the weather right now, speaking of sunscreen. Here's Chad Myers at the CNN Center. What's happening?
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HEMMER: Well, you were saying they're going to get, what, 36 hours of rain in Atlanta, straight? Did you get it?
CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: You know, it's been raining since Saturday. I finally got about 15 minutes in between the rain showers to get the lawn mowed, because it was getting about that tall. And the neighbors were starting to complain.
COSTELLO: Well, it was like that all of May for us.
HEMMER: That's true. No pity. See you, Chad.
That big jobs report is out for the month of May. Andy breaks it down in a moment here. He's back "Minding Your Business.
COSTELLO: Plus, Tom Cruise raising eyebrows by just saying it just takes vitamins and exercise to treat postpartum depression. We'll ask a doctor about that and find out what really works. That's next on AMERICAN MORNING.
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COSTELLO: A lot of people are talking about statements from Tom Cruise last week on "Access Hollywood." The star, who is a scientologist, criticized Brooke Shields for treating her post partum depression with Paxil.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TOM CRUISE, ACTOR: Here's a woman, and I care about Brooke Shields, because I think here's a woman who is incredibly talented. You look at where has her career gone? It has helped her. It has -- when someone says that it's helped them, it's cope. But it didn't cure anything. There's no science. There's nothing that can cure them whatsoever.
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COSTELLO: We should note, scientologists, like Cruise, consider modern psychiatry and its medications to be harmful.
But does Tom Cruise have a point about how women should treat postpartum depression? Dr. Stephen Hotze is author of the book "Hormones, Health and Happiness." And the doctor joins me now.
Brooke Shields calls Tom Cruise's statements dangerous. What do you think?
DR. STEPHEN HOTZE, AUTHOR, "HORMONES, HEALTH AND HAPPINESS": Postpartum depression is not caused by a lack of vitamins or exercise. It's caused by a hormonal decline and imbalance of a key hormone, called progesterone, which is a hormone of pregnancy.
When a woman's pregnant, the baby's placenta makes enormous amounts of progesterone to promote gestation, promote pregnancy. When the baby is delivered, and the placenta is delivered, there is a dramatic fall in progesterone, and that can cause significant mood problems in women. Sometimes it can be sometimes mild depression, port partum blues. But later it can in some women lead to more severe depression.
COSTELLO: And that's what Brooke Shields was experiencing.
HOTZE: She has.
COSTELLO: She appeared on "PAULA ZAHN," and this is how she described her postpartum depression.
HOTZE: OK.
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BROOKE SHIELDS, ACTRESS: First what you hear is it's just the baby blues, you'll get over it. So that's the first cause for shame, because you don't get over it. And it's not getting better. So that must mean the problem's with you. You must be the problem. All these other mothers are getting over it. So it's you.
Then when you get past that and there's talk of postpartum depression, the first reaction is no, no, those are the women that you read about the newspapers that do horrible things to their children. That's not me.
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COSTELLO: And I think the scariest part of what she was feeling is she felt absolutely no connection to her newborn baby.
HOTZE: Well, this is not uncommon at all. But oftentimes, this is something women never tell their physicians or their husbands or their family members. Because they feel like Brooke did, they feel ashamed.
But they should, and I think Brooke Shields did a good job when she felt that way to seek medical care and then to get some help.
Now, the help she got was antidepressants. The real question is, is that really going to solve the problem?
COSTELLO: And that's the crux of what Tom Cruise was saying, that her postpartum depression came from -- well, he intimated this -- came from the emptiness in her life, not exactly from having the baby and the after-effects.
HOTZE: Well, I would say, just from a medical point of view, clearly, her depression is caused by a dramatic fall and an imbalance in the hormone, particularly progesterone. And that can be simply taken care of by replacing that and supplementing natural progesterone in a woman after she's had a child.
COSTELLO: We have some symptoms of postpartum depression that we want to put up for women out there. The first sign is hopelessness. Anxiety, a lack of interest in your baby, feelings of guilt or in not being a good mother and restlessness. When did you know that it's time to seek help?
HOTZE: Well, if you're having problems -- if you have problems thinking about harming yourself or harming your child, it would be time to seek help. But I think it's key that the help you need to seek is a natural, safe and effective way and that's the use of natural progesterone.
I talk about that in my book, "Hormones, Health and Happiness." And I think that would be very important for women to read, especially as they approach a delivery of a child.
COSTELLO: OK.
HOTZE: My daughter is getting ready to have a baby, as a matter of fact, and she has her -- this week in New York. And she's going to take her progesterone to the hospital and take it as soon as she has her baby.
COSTELLO: Really? Even though she may show no sign of postpartum depression?
HOTZE: Well, she -- every woman has a dramatic drop in progesterone. And that helps calm the water so they don't have those, even the postpartum blues.
COSTELLO: Thank you, doctor, for clarifying things for us. Appreciate it.
HOTZE: Thank you. My pleasure.
COSTELLO: Dr. Stephen Hotze, the author of "Hormones, Health and Happiness." And again, thanks for being with us.
HOTZE: My pleasure.
COSTELLO: Bill.
HOTZE: All right, Carol. In a moment, Andy has the jobs report and Jack has a house cleaning orangutan. True story. That's next here on AMERICAN MORNING, right after this.
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HEMMER: Welcome back.
JACK CAFFERTY, CO-HOST: The big monthly jobs report out just a few minutes ago. Here with the details, Andy Serwer, "Minding Your Business."
They missed it by a country mile again, didn't they?
ANDY SERWER, "FORTUNE" MAGAZINE: Yes, 100,000 is a country mile, no question. We have a weak jobs report to tell you about this morning for the month of May. Economists looking for 175,000 jobs. They only got 78,000.
Unemployment rate ticks down from 5.2 percent to 5.1 percent. But they're really going to be concentrating on the fact that not as many jobs were created as anticipated.
However, the bad news could be good news for Wall Street, because it means that inflation is likely not -- is not likely, excuse me, to be a problem going forward, or at least that would be the perception. And in fact, bonds are moving up the prices, interest rates are falling and stock futures are moving ahead.
Speaking of Wall Street, deals are back on Wall Street. So much so, that it reminded us of a fictional icon from the 1980s. Check this out.
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MICHAEL DOUGLAS, ACTOR: Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies and cuts through and captures.
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SERWER: Yes, that's Michael Douglas in his Oscar winning role as Gordon Gekko in the 1987 film "Wall Street." And at "Fortune" magazine we decided to do a story about deals being back on Wall Street, and we asked Michael Douglas to pose, to reprise his role as Gordon Gekko for this cover story. As you can see here.
And Jack, it's interesting. We talked to him a little bit about his role as Gordon Gekko. And you know, he loves it. He won the Oscar. Then he says a lot of times, people on Wall Street will come up to him, he says usually when they're well-oiled, to quote his phrase, and say, "You know what? You were my inspiration. You were what made me go to Wall Street."
And Michael Douglas says, he goes, "But Gordon Gekko was the bad guy!"
CAFFERTY: Yes.
SERWER: But I think that speaks volumes about some of the types down on the street, as they say.
CAFFERTY: About the culture of Wall Street in general, that's true.
SERWER: That's right. And we were talking about hedge funds and buyout funds and how powerful they are today in buying companies like Burger King and Maytag and Neiman Marcus and Sears and K-Mart, all run by Wall Street types these days.
CAFFERTY: A little scary.
SERWER: It is.
But it's fun, because greed, greed is good.
CAFFERTY: Greed is good.
Thank you, Andy.
SERWER: You're welcome.
CAFFERTY: Time for "The File."
The town of Brookville, Massachusetts, has passed a nonbinding resolution that makes it a policy of the town to discourage parents and child care workers from using corporal punishment.
The resolution's sponsor, he tried to say, is a guy named Ronald Goldman, says spanking children can leave long-term emotional bruises. And if you hit them hard enough, it will leave physical bruises, too.
He cites studies that show corporal punishment tests contribute to negative -- all the things. Anyway, Massachusetts, one of -- this is too long. Massachusetts, one of 27 states to prohibit corporal punishment in schools. And now the town of Brookville wants to stick its nose into the private affairs of families.
HEMMER: Wow.
CAFFERTY: What you're smelling affects the way you're driving. For example, a British study found fast food increases the likelihood of road rage. The aroma of fresh bread or pastries, on the other hand, can cause a driver to speed up, because it makes you hungry. Other smells like peppermint, cinnamon, lemon or coffee, improve a driver's concentration.
The study's authors say more than any other sense, the sense of smell circumnavigates the logical part of the brain. Could have fooled me. But be careful about choosing a neutral smelling car interior, because studies of astronauts found odorless environments cause irritability. And even hallucinations.
SERWER: So that's my problem.
CAFFERTY: That's one of them.
SERWER: Yes.
CAFFERTY: And finally this, hard work being the only clean primate in the cage. Ask a 49-year-old orangutan in Tokyo's Tama Zoo. This is Gypsy. She spends her days cleaning the cage. Human handlers bring her buckets of water, and she starts by washing the floor and the walls.
HEMMER: Look at that.
CAFFERTY: She also keeps herself clean, wipes the dirt and sweat off when she's through. Gypsy likes to garden. She always wears her sun hat. And she lives with four other orangutans who are just layabouts. Two daughters, a granddaughter and son-in-law. None of them help with the chores. She's the only one.
This is moderately decent orangutan video. But the best monkey video we ever had in "The Cafferty File" is this. This is a chimpanzee in a zoo in Israel who developed some stomach problems and took to walking around upright. Just like a real person.
COSTELLO: That is freaky looking.
CAFFERTY: And there's -- it's absolutely the only reason we chose to reshow this, is it's freaky looking.
SERWER: What about that? Remember the smoking one too, Jack.
CAFFERTY: That's true. I like this one, the one that stood up straight.
SERWER: The standing up monkey.
HEMMER: The smoker was in, what, South Africa. They're trying to get him to quit.
SERWER: Crazy monkeys all around the globe.
HEMMER: Right here.
COSTELLO: Right here on AMERICAN MORNING.
In a moment, though, we'll have something more important, the new national spelling bee champ.
SERWER: No, no.
COSTELLO: He is more important than the standing-up chimp. Anyway, the champ joins us live in the studio. Last year, he finished 47th. Find out what he did differently this year to win. That's just ahead on AMERICAN MORNING.
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