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CIA in Afghanistan; Florida and Hurricanes; Profile of Ford; College Students Move Back Home; Natalee Holloway missing in Aruba; Quran Scandal at Guantanamo Bay Prison; Tiananmen Square; Michael Jackson Case

Aired June 04, 2005 - 12:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: It is Noon in Aruba where the search continues for a missing American teen; 9:00 in Santa Maria, California, where the Michael Jackson jury has the weekend off.
Hello everyone, I'm Fredricka Whitfield at CNN's global headquarters in Atlanta. Ahead this hour:

Fear of a terrible crime in paradise: We'll have the latest for a search of a young, American teen missing in Aruba.

Also, a new report on the Quran controversy at the Guantanamo Bay Prison. Will it help or hurt the U.S. military's case? Plus:

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe this year, if we can get the Pakistani's to cooperate, we'll be able to track him down.

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WHITFIELD: And he should know. We talk with the CIA man who's been hot on Osama bin Laden's trail, but first a look at the top stories, "Now in the News."

Two Iraqi police officers were wounded by a suicide car bombing in Baghdad. Meanwhile, Iraqi and U.S. soldiers are keeping up the pressure on suspected insurgents south of the capital, which the military believes is a staging area for daily attacks.

Hundreds of mourners turned out in Beirut today for the funeral of anti-Syrian journalist, Samir Kassir. Kassir was killed by a car bomb earlier this week. FBI agents are assisting in the investigation. Lebanon's opposition blames Syria and its agents for the killing. It is calling for a major demonstration on Monday.

Palestinian parliamentary elections have been put off indefinitely. Leader Mahmoud Abbas, reportedly, is buying time to fend off a growing challenge from Hamas. Hamas, which opposes peace with Israel, condemned the delay, but says for now it will honor the current cease-fire agreement.

Keeping you informed, CNN's best source for news.

The search continues for an Alabama high school honor student. Natalee Holloway was on a trip with other students to the Caribbean island of Aruba when she was last seen on Monday. Holloway's mother has traveled to the island to help with the search. Karl Penhaul has the latest now from Palm Beach, Aruba -- Karl.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth, and the Island police chief have just staged a brief press conference. In that press conference, Natalee's mother, Beth, has described natalee as an "angel," as a "straight A student." She also went on to vow that she would not leave Aruba without Natalee. Then, the deputy police chief of Aruba, Gerold Dompig, went on to describe that the police are receiving tips by the hour, that police are working hard on those in cooperation with the liaison offices and investigators from the FBI who have traveled from the states to Aruba.

He said at present, Aruba police are working on three theories. He said the first of those theories is that three people that he described as "people of interest," the three men in whose company Natalee was last seen, may have done something wrong to Natalee. He also said a second theory is that Natalee may have chosen to have gone missing of her own accord. He said the third theory is that of a possible kidnapping. It must be said, though, Fredricka, that Aruba really has no history of violent crime towards tourists, kidnappings, and murders of foreign nationals here in this country would be entirely out of keeping -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And Karl, two of those theories make sense or sound plausible. But why are police now suspecting that of those three options that possibly she may be missing on her own accord?

PENHAUL: Those are the three, as I say, theories that they're working on. They haven't ruled any of these theories in or out. Those are the working theories. And as I say, because of the investigation, they have questioned the three men in whose company Natalee was last seen outside a bar known as Carlos 'n Charlie's in the very early hours of Monday, and so far, there is nothing to confirm or rule out that foul play has been -- has occurred and that's why they're still also leaving open the theory that Natalee may have gone missing of her own accord.

WHITFIELD: And Karl, what's the extent of the search? We're looking at video which has shown some searching at sea and on land. Can you describe a little bit, the measures they're takeing?

PENHAUL: Yeah. There are a number of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) going on in this search. There are a number of volunteers, both family members, Aruban nationals, and also tourists here who are helping as volunteers in those search, putting up missing posters, but there are also a detachment of Dutch marines, the rumor is that Dutch dependency, after all, is a detachment of Dutch marines involved in that search. The island's police force is involved in searching, along with the FBI officer who are flying in. And Aruba's deputy chief commissioner did say that over the coming days, they are likely to call on more help from the FBI as well -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. Karl Penhaul, thanks so much for that update from Palm Beach, Aruba. We're turning now to the Pentagon, a military inquiry details how U.S. military personnel treated detainees and the Quran both intentionally inadvertently at the Guantanamo detention facility. Kathleen Koch is at the Pentagon with details of the report.

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, obviously, a sensitive subject. And the Pentagon, last night after 7:00, released the actual findings of this very detailed report by Brigadier General Jay Hood. And his team looked into 19 alleged incidents and it turns out, according to them, that only five of the alleged incidents had any merit.

First, they discovered one incident of guards kicking a detainee's Quran. One case when a guard's urine actually splashed on to a detainee and a Quran through an air vent accidentally. Then one incident between water balloons between two guards getting two Qurans wet.

There were two other incidents, on in which a contract interrogator stepped on a detainee's Quran and then did later apologize. And then finally the last incident in which two-word obscenity, in English was found written in a detainee's Quran. But because that detainee spoke English, it couldn't be determined whether or not he or a U.S. guard there actually wrote that word.

And, very interesting, that the probe also did find that there were some 15 incidents in which detainees themselves abused their own Qurans, things like tearing out pages, spitting on their Qurans and a couple of incidents where detainees actually tried to flush their own Qurans down the toilet. The Pentagon believes this is a very fair, a very thorough probe. We're told investigators looked at more than 30,000 documents. The White House in a statement today praised the report, saying quote, "Our men and women in the military adhere to the highest standards, including when it comes to respecting and protecting religious freedom. It's unfortunate that some have chosen to take out of context a few isolated incidents by a few individuals without making clear the policies and practices of the overwhelming vast majority, the 99 percent of our military personnel."

And of course, this probe was prompted by the "Newsweek" report that was retracted in which it was claimed that U.S. service members had, themselves, tried to flush a Quran down the toilet and the probe found that there was no evidence of that whatsoever. And the Pentagon, Fredricka, does now believe that all U.S. military personnel, not only at Guantanamo Bay, but at detention centers around the world are very much on notice about the proper handling of the U.S. Muslim holy book -- the Muslim holy book, I should say.

WHITFIELD: And Kathleen, you mentioned this probe involves some 30,000 documents. Does this mean that these incidents, such as the water balloons, etcetera, were documented or most of this information comes from witness testimony or people that they've questioned?

KOCH: It's unclear, Fredricka, because there was a real mix of information that went into this probe: Interview with his detainees, documents that were looked at, so we're not really clear where they came from. But, the Pentagon believes they have gotten to the bottom, at least, of these incidents that had been alleged.

WHITFIELD: All right, Kathleen Koch at the Pentagon. Thanks so much.

A check of the weather coming up and then, you may remember this, but you may not know how some of the images from Tiananmen Square made it out of the China. We'll have that coming up.

Michael Jackson's case is in the hands of the jury. Rusty Dornin reports on what happened in the courtroom.

And he's a familiar sight and even more familiar sound: The voice of Darth Vader and the voice of CNN, Paula Zahn, sits down with James Earl Jones.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Hi, I'm Rob Marciano in the CNN Weather Center. Time for a look at your allergy forecast. Problem pollens out there now: Grasses out West, the rag weeds and hardwoods still pollinating where you see less in the way of bright colors, Florida in the southeast, where it's been raining of late. But it looks like Memphis, Tennessee, in the very high category. Hope you're feeling well this Saturday and enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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WHITFIELD: Stormy day in parts of the Midwest. CNN meteorologist, Rob Marciano is keeping an eye out for tornados -- Rob.

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WHITFIELD: Today marks 16 years since China crushed the pro- democracy movement in Tiananmen Square. There was no sign of public commutations at Beijing Square today, just tighter security. An honor guard raised the Chinese flag over the square as the crowd looked on, but that happens every day.

In Hong Kong, tens of thousands of people remember the anniversary with a sober candlelight vigil. Descents tolerated, to some degree, in the British colony. Hundreds of students were believed to have been killed on June 4, 1989 when the military rolled tanks into Tiananmen Square. Protesters inspired by the democratic wave sweeping Eastern Europe were unarmed.

At a security conference in Singapore today, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld took a harder line with China. He questioned China's massive military buildup when he says China is not threatened by any other country.

CNN was the eyes and ears for the world when the iron fist came down. Our veteran journalists member that day in Tiananmen Square, 16 springs ago. It's part of our 25th anniversary coverage.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MIKE CHINOY, CNN ASIA CORRESPONDENT: Yaobang's death on the 15th of April, 1989 was the catalyst for everything that followed in that spring. Yaobang was, to many Chinese, a symbol of hopes for reform. He'd been ousted by communist party hardliners two years earlier.

WANG DAN, TIANANMEN LEADER: Due to his death, we think we have to do something like go to the street to show our sorrow for him.

BERNARD SHAW, FMR. CNN ANCHOR: CNN had been there to cover that historic summit between Deng Xiao-ping and Mikhail Gorbachev, but the crowds just multiplied and increased. They had taken over Tiananmen Square, demanding democracy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Unbelievable, we all came here to cover a summit and we walked into a revolution.

CYNDE STRAND, CNN PHOTOGRAPHER, TIANANMEN SQUARE: We couldldn't believe that the government tolerated this, that it had let it go on this far. They were being embarrassed, they were being humiliated on TV every night around the world and they pulled the plug on it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And now, as we report to our viewers around the world, martial law has been declared in Beijing. I'm being told that the government officials are coming into the CNN control room now.

ALEC MIRAN, CNN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: And they said, we are here to tell you that the coverage of Gorbachev is over. Your task is over.

The bosses are saying that for us to go off the air, we would require it in writing. Our policy is that the government has ordered us to shut down our facility. We are shutting down our facility. Yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can we sign off, may we sign off?

MIRAN: Yeah.

SHAW: OK. We heard the orders. We have our instructions from headquarters in Atlanta.

STRAND: After martial law was declared and they pulled the plug on our broadcast, we didn't have a way to get our pictures out. So, we do something called "pigeon" them out. And in those days, it was fairly easy to do. You would take your tape to the airport -- a copy of your tape and you would find a sympathetic person to carry the tape for you and in this case, we had tapes taken to Hong Kong.

On the afternoon of June 3, I mean, you could feel it. You could just feel things were going in a bad direction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The assault on Tiananmen Square is now underway.

CHINOY: Late in that evening, the soldiers began to move in. I could see below me little bicycle carts where people who'd been shot were dumped in the back and then the rider would pedal furiously, taking these victims off to hospitals.

WANG DAN: One of my classmates came back from Tiananmen Square and he told me that the troops were shooting at the students.

CHINOY: And as dawn broke, the people's liberation army was in full control of the square. The student movement had been crushed.

It happened the day after, in the morning. A column of tanks had started to leave Tiananmen Square. Out of nowhere, this man in a white shirt ran in front of the tank. The tank stopped and, for a heart stopping four or five minutes, there was this extraordinary drama. The big question was, what would happen? Will he be run over? Would they shoot him?

WANG DAN: I saw that picture. It was a young man standing in front of the tanks. We never know who he is and right now, nobody know where he is. I was arrested in 1989 in July.

CHINOY: Wang Dan spent most of the decade after Tiananmen, in China in jail. He's now a graduate at Halved University.

WANG DAN: I was pretty proud of my role at the time. I thought finally I can really do something to change history.

SHAW: That was our contribution, being there, reporting what was happening. It was historic. The People's Republic of China is going to be the next superpower and what we were able to do was to provide a window for the world to peek through and see that beneath the facade, there is much ferment, much unrest.

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WHITFIELD: Jurors in the Michael Jackson case are resting this weekend at home, a day after attorneys for both sides completed their closing statements. The jury will begin deliberating again on Monday morning to decide the fate of the pop superstar accused of child molestation. Rusty Dornin recaps what's been going on.

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RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With his mother on his arm, his father close by, Michael Jackson gave one small wave to fans before going into what would be the last chance to sway the jury. Five of Jackson's brothers and sisters came to court, the largest showing of the Jackson family since the early days of the trial. In his final two-hour plea to the panel, defense attorney, Thomas Mesereau, repeatedly described the accuser and his family as con artists, actors, and liars. He asked the jury to question why the boy didn't claim molestation until after the family had seen two lawyers.

SUSAN FILAN, LEGAL ANALYST: He's not slurring the victim for the purpose of putting the victim on trial. He's slurring the victim, because he thinks this victim is committing a fraud and a perjury on this court and he even said to this jury, "don't let them do it to you."

DORNIN: Mesereau urged the jury to consider reasonable doubt and throw the case out the door. But prosecutor Ron Zonen got the last word. He asked jurors, how could they believe that Jackson's practice of sleeping with boys is not sexual?

CRAIG SMITH, LEGAL ANALYST: If he sleeps with a boy who's 12- year-old -- who's 12 years old and he's a middle aged man, if he sleeps with a boy 365 nights a year, that's not a friendship, that's a relationship.

DORNIN: The defense argued that Jackson would have been stupid to molest the accuser after the documentary aired, but prosecutors countered that Jackson would do it because he could, because the accuser was in love with him.

The prosecution made their final impression by showing tape of the police interviewer with the accuser, where the boy, in halting tones, claims Jackson molested him.

Jackson's gaunt appearance, in recent weeks, has drawn questions about his health, as did his visit to a hospital this week.

RAYMONE BAIN, JACKSON SPOKESWOMAN: It was not because he was sick, but because Mr. Gregory said you look a little dehydrated and I feel that you need electrolytes.

DORNIN: Jackson has been to the hospital twice before during the in the trial, once complaining of back pain, another with flu symptoms. And again, on his mother's arm and with a weak wave, Jackson left the courthouse to return only when his fate has been decided.

(on camera): When his fate has been decided, the judge told Jackson he has one hour to get to the courthouse. The jury deliberated less than two hours before going home for the weekend. They'll be back on Monday morning at 8:30. We've also learned that there will be a live audio feed in the courtroom when the verdict is reached.

Rusty Dornin, CNN, Santa Maria, California.

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WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back right, after this.

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WHITFIELD: Bottom of the hour and now in the news, the personal secretary to the late Pope John Paul II says he didn't burn the pontiff's private papers, as the papal will had instructed. The archbishop told Polish radio the documents are filled with great riches that should be preserved. He declined to give any details about the manuscripts, however. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is postponing parliamentary elections set for next month. Abbas says he wants a new election law in place first. The move appears designed to give him time to fight off a challenge from Hamas. No new date for the election has been set.

And 10 more FBI agents are joining the search in Aruba for missing teen Natalie Holloway. She was last seen leaving a nightclub Monday morning. Holloway, from Alabama, was in Aruba with several other high school students for a graduation celebration.

Osama bin Laden has alluded the U.S. for almost four years now. The operation to capture or kill him began after the Twin Towers fell.

CNN national security correspondent David Ensor talked to a former CIA officer who was first in to Afghanistan.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Until this day, Gary Schroen, the CIA man who led the first American team into Afghanistan just days after 9/11, had never seen the site where so many died.

GARY SCHROEN, CIA: When you think what went on, if you remember seeing that -- those images, I mean, my God, it just takes your breath away to stand here.

ENSOR (on camera): And how many days after this came down did you get into Afghanistan to start the fight back?

SCHROEN: We were -- I think we actually left the United States on the 19th of September.

ENSOR (voice-over): Schroen got his marching orders from Cofer Black, then head of the CIA's Counter Terrorism Center. He was to link up with the rebel Northern Alliance, tell them the Americans would be there soon to help defeat the Taliban government. And there was another charge.

SCHROEN: I was to find bin Laden, kill him and bring his head back to the United States in a box on dry ice.

ENSOR (on camera): Did he mean that literally, do you think?

SCHROEN: Knowing Cofer, perhaps he did. But I took it as I -- that he was wanting to really demonstrate to us that this was very, very serious, that the gloves were off and that we were there to really go after this guy and his lieutenants and to kill them.

ENSOR (voice-over): As Schroen writes in his new book "First In," his seven-man team were given just five days to get ready to go into Afghanistan.

SCHROEN: So, we need tents, camping gear. Sort of like on a -- let's say it's a hunting expedition in the Rockies or something, and so we went out to local camping goods stores and sporting goods stores, and bought our gear.

ENSOR (on camera): Really? I mean I would have imagined -- I guess we imagined the CIA has, you know, like in James Bond, a guy who does all that.

SCHROEN: Absolutely not.

ENSOR: What about money?

SCHROEN: Oh, we had about $3 million that we took along with us in cash. Filled three cardboard boxes.

ENSOR (voice-over): They flew into Afghanistan in a CIA-owned Russian-made helicopter with souped-up American avionics. They gave it the tail number 91101.

SCHROEN: And everyday we'd look at the helicopter, we'd think back on this and why we were there in Afghanistan.

ENSOR: Schroen's team rallied the Northern Alliance, which was reeling from the murder of its commander by al Qaeda. They helped call in U.S. air strikes on Taliban front lines.

The CIA's quick work, say Bush administration officials, shortened the war and saved a lot of American lives, but not without a few close calls. Like the time CIA headquarters called to say a predator drone had spotted two guys walking around a Taliban airfield, one of them tall and thin.

SCHROEN: We think it's bin Laden, and we have a Hellfire on board and we want to shoot these two guys -- we want to blow these two guys up. So, I said, "Well, give me the coordinates." And so I -- we check, and I said that's our airfield. That's a CIA airfield and those are our two -- those CIA officers walking the ground. You mean they're really -- it's not bin Laden? I said, "No, it's our pilot."

ENSOR: Gary Schroen loved his tough assignment in Afghanistan. He has one regret: How do you feel about the fact that bin Laden is still out there?

SCHROEN: It's one of the frustrations that I have, is to watch this man still, you know, out there, free and still creating, you know, plans to attack the United States. Maybe this year, if we can get the Pakistanis to cooperate, we'll be able to track him down.

ENSOR: Schroen argues the U.S. will need to beef up its military forces on the Afghan-Pakistani border and send in more CIA teams like his if it wants to be sure of catching or killing Osama bin Laden.

David Ensor, CNN, New York.

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WHITFIELD: Well, coming up: Ready to plan that summer vacation? We're going to tell you whether or not the Florida beaches are ready for you. We'll be right back.

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WHITFIELD: Hurricane season officially began June 1st, and forecasters predict another nasty season straight ahead.

Remember Ivan, Francis and Charlie? The memory lingers as Florida moves into its high-tourist season, and we focus our "Weekend Getaways" this time on the state's beaches. Travel writer Chelle Koster Walton joins us from Ft. Meyers, Florida.

Good to see you Chelle.

CHELLE KOSTER WALTON, TRAVEL WRITER: Good to see you. Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right, well among the hard-hit areas last year Captiva, Sanibel, are those areas ready for new tourists this summer?

WALTON: Oh, definitely.

WHITFIELD: Really?

WALTON: They're all ready for tourists. They have been. As you may know, the high season for a lot of Florida is the winter months, and they were ready for tourists then. Not completely. Attraction- wise, yes everything was in place, the beaches looked good. Accommodations -- down a little bit. That was problem during the high season, especially because we had FEMA workers still here and construction workers.

And because some of our big resorts have not yet opened, they are taking the opportunity to completely renovate. So as it comes around, Florida is looking actually better for tourism than it did before the hurricane.

WHITFIELD: Wow.

So might there -- like you described -- kind of pockets of still some rebuilding and trying to fine-tune but does that mean that there really are some locations that aren't necessarily 100 percent, but still can accommodate the tourists overall where they can enjoy themselves, the beaches or maybe some of the attractions there overall?

WALTON: Oh, definitely. As I say, they're all ready to accept tourists. Some are not 100 percent.

WHITFIELD: So how do you weed through and find out which ones are ready and which ones are not quite ready?

WALTON: Well, it's always a good idea, whenever you're traveling to Florida or anywhere these days, to call your accommodations first, to make your reservations first. WHITFIELD: So what are some of the questions you need to ask? How do you know that some of these hotels are being completely honest with you, because a lot of them, you know, would like to see the business, and you're not necessarily sure if they're telling you the whole story about what you'll be able to enjoy when you get there.

WALTON: They would like to see the business -- they would like to see the business, but they don't want their guests to have a bad experience. That's not a good thing. So, they're not going to lie to you, and they're not going to open before their time. Some resorts are partially open. You want to ask, well, are the restaurants open? Is it full service? Are the pools open? The laundromats. You know, whatever you feel like you're going to use. You want to ask those questions. But for the most part, they're not going to open until they're ready for the full experience.

And really, the biggest place to worry about, I would say, for the summer, because it is a summer destination in Florida, is Pensacola, because that was hit hard. And it's looking very good, but a lot of the accommodations are not back.

WHITFIELD: Now, what about prices? What can you expect? That the prices might be rather high, higher than usual or lower so that folks are lured to come back?

WALTON: Well, the prices have not really reflected any change, any hurricane change, because there is a demand for the rooms, so they don't have to discount the rooms, and because unless they're not working full service, up to full par, then there's no reason. You know, they have the demand.

There are some places that are offering -- I just saw a release the other day, if your name is Jean, Charlie, Ivan or Frances, then you get a discount on rooms or a group of hotels in Florida. But it's typical actually for this time of year. Summer is a lower season in southern Florida, in central Florida, so, the rates are better than in winter. But in Pensacola in the panhandle, it's prime season, and you can expect those rates to be the same.

WHITFIELD: So, any favorite picks?

WALTON: Any favorite picks for Florida in general or for where the hurricanes were?

WHITFIELD: Yeah. For Florida in general, since you know, those were some of the hard hit domestic areas that we know of last year.

WALTON: Well, Florida, the panhandle is one of my favorite destinations. And, like I say, that is hot in the summer, and -- hot tourism-wise, and it's a little cooler than it is down here where we get a lot of Florida tourism and drive market this time of year. So, the panhandle is one of my favorites. Some of the places that were actually hit by the hurricanes are my favorite. Ft. Pierce area on the East Coast, Sanibel, Captiva, right here, my hometowns. Love them. Everybody loves them. You can't help it. WHITFIELD: All right. Just a reminder, folks. Okay, you're coming from Ft. Meyers, Florida. And of course, that would be one of your favorite picks. Chelle Koster Walton, thanks so much for joining us.

WALTON: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: Well, coming up, a profile of the man who has taken on so many roles, both on stage and in film. And he's also the voice of CNN. Don't miss our conversation with James Earl Jones.

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WHITFIELD: Returning worn clothes to the store -- is it right? And what to do when your pharmacist embarrasses you. Questions of ethics with syndicated columnist Bruce Weinstein, author of the forthcoming book, "Life Principles -- Feeling Goodbye Doing Good." Bruce joins us from New York. All right, good to see you.

BRUCE WEINSTEIN, AUTHOR: You, too, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, our first ethics question of the day involves a familiar dilemma -- familiar to a lot of folks, not me personally. A viewer writes, "A woman I know makes a habit of returning clothes, appliances and other purchases after she has used them, even though nothing is wrong with them. I feel she is taking advantage of the generous return policies. She argues that if a store gives her the right to return something that she has purchased, then is it ethical for her to take them up on it." Well, who is right?

WEINSTEIN: The person who sent the question is right. I mean, just because we can do something doesn't mean that we ought to. And quite frankly, Fredricka, I don't know what's worse -- to do what this woman is doing by returning perfectly good items or to couch the behavior in ethical language to say that it's right, because it's really hard to imagine how this could ever be considered ethical. I mean, after all, companies create these return policies to promote trust with customers, and this woman is exploiting that trust and possibly making it harder for future customers to return items in good faith, because once managers get wise to this sort of practice, they'll crack down.

WHITFIELD: Right. They may change the policy, and this woman's behavior will help change the policy affecting so many people potentially.

WEINSTEIN: Unfairly so.

WHITFIELD: All right. Well, here's another question. Recently, I visited my local pharmacy to get a medication for a sensitive condition I have. Upon reading the prescription, the pharmacist said my name out loud, which everyone could hear, and then he held up a voucher for the medication that I gave him, which could clearly be seen by the customers behind me. A friend of mine says I'm making a big deal out of nothing and should forget about it. I feel I should do something, but what? WEINSTEIN: You know, patients have a right to have confidentiality protected, and therefore pharmacists and other health care providers have a duty to protect confidentiality. So this is a big deal. And the person who sent the question in might consider calling the pharmacist back or meeting with the pharmacist personally and letting the pharmacist know that this was embarrassing and suggesting, perhaps, a private meeting in the future to prevent embarrassment. And, also, in so doing, the writer would be protecting future customers, future patients as well, just like the writer of the previous question. We're in a great position sometimes to protect not only ourselves, but future people from harm or injustice.

WHITFIELD: Can a parallel experience be when you're at the pharmacy, perhaps the pharmacist may have a couple questions for you aloud about your prescription, and consequently, everybody's going to hear it. So, you know, you're in a public place, you're in a store where there are other customers. Honestly, can you expect that your privacy is going to be respected to Nth degree?

WEINSTEIN: Yes, you can, because increasingly, pharmacies are creating special areas for private conversations between pharmacist and patient. Sometimes all it means is moving a few feet away from the crowd and talking privately or perhaps doing it over the phone if necessary. But there are ways to protect patient confidentiality, and pharmacists, in particular, and in fact, all of us, in general, ought to take that seriously.

WHITFIELD: Okay. Or perhaps even lowering the voice. Whatever happened to a whisper, right?

WEINSTEIN: Very good. Exactly. That's a good point.

WHITFIELD: All right. Bruce Weinstein, thanks so much.

WEINSTEIN: You too. Thank you, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Well, if you have a question for the ethics guy, e- mail your dilemma to ethics@cnn.com. We'll get them on the air, just like that.

Coming up, his voice is the network's signature. The story behind James Earl Jones and CNN, straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: Well, CNN has covered every corner of the world for a quarter century now.

The news defined us, as did an actor's voice. CNN's Paula Zahn takes a look as CNN celebrates 25 years.

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PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Sometimes a voice says it all.

James Earl Jones has won two Tony awards, could win another one on Sunday, and he has appeared in more than 100 movies.

But its his powerful, unforgettable voice that echoes through our memories and you may not even realize that he has also played a defining role in CNN's 25-year history, which we're celebrating this week.

(voice-over): James Earl Jones is best known from films and television, but acting on Broadway is his first love.

(on camera): How hard is it to play to that top balcony up there?

JAMES EARL JONES, ACTOR: You know, actually, I'm looking down most of the time, except during the curtain calls.

I do look up there.

ZAHN: I hope so.

JONES: To thank them for coming, yes.

ZAHN (voice-over): When I visited Jones on the stage of "On Golden Pond," it's was obvious this is where he feels at home.

JONES: I love standing in a dark -- behind a dark curtain every night, which is, you know, preparation.

After you've loosened up your voice with "bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah, those voice...

Zahn (on camera): That's magic I have to learn? -- "bah dah bah duh bah duh" -- what am I saying?

JONES: "Bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah."

ZAHN: "Bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah."

JONES: Inside the bahs, the gahs and the tuhs, you know?

ZAHN: Your grandfather described your voice as, as beautiful as a bell.

JONES: Yes.

ZAHN: That's a wonderful thing to say about somebody's voice.

JONES: That's nice, isn't it? Nice review from grandpa.

ZAHN: But there was something he heard in the register of your voice, or the tenor of your voice, that touched him.

JONES: Perhaps every child has that, before it gets cluttered, you know, with all kinds of concerns and fears.

ZAHN (voice-over): James Earl Jones knows that from personal experience. His parents divorced before he was born, leaving him with his grandparents.

His early years on the family's Mississippi farm were happy but when he turned six, his grandparents decided to move north, intending to leave young James with another relative.

He refused and eventually moved to Michigan with the rest of his family but all that left him so traumatized that he developed a severe stutter and barely spoke for almost eight years.

(on camera): Why did you spend so much time in silence as a kid?

JONES: Because stuttering was so embarrassing and really painful.

I mean, I set off peals of laughter in Sunday school when I'd read my verses.

ZAHN: That couldn't have felt good?

JONES: Oh, no, it hurt -- it does hurt, yes.

But I know accept when people laugh, you know.

ZAHN (voice-over): When Jones was 14, a high school teacher recognized his love of poetry and encouraged him to speak again. His love of words eventually led him to the stage.

JONES: I started my Broadway debut in this theater, the Court Theater. The play was "Sunrise at Campobello," about Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and I remember walking on stage one night and my line was, "Mrs. Roosevelt, dinner is served."

I got to m -- mum -- I couldn't get any further and the audience sat there.

They knew what was happening. They waited for me to get it out. I was -- I'm very grateful for that.

That's the only time I've stuttered on stage.

ZAHN (voice-over): Surprisingly, the boy who was once embarrassed to speak publicly went on to have a successful stage career, performing in roles like "The Great White Hope," "Othello," "Master Herald and the Boys," and "Fences."

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DARTH VADER: I am your father.

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ZAHN: But the role that won Jones worldwide recognition was not on stage, but the big screen.

JONES: I became a commercial actor because of that guy. He wanted the voice of authority, you know, from Darth Vader and... ZAHN (on camera): So, in spite of all those years of toiling in the theater, it was George Lucas that made you commercially viable with this great gift of a voice you have?

JONES: I think so, yes.

ZAHN: So, when you, in your mind's eye, try to figure out what Darth Vader was supposed to sound like, where did that come from?

JONES: Well, I was able to look at the screen and see the image of him, that affected me -- that dark figure -- that had an impact on me.

The key to Darth Vader is a narrow band of expression, no inflictions, he is not human.

ZAHN (voice-over): Jones was paid just $9,000 for his voice-work in the first Star Wars film, but the movie opened the door to a lucrative voice-over career.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Start rolling. This is line one, take one, please.

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ZAHN: Including right here at CNN.

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JONES: You saw it on CNN.

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ZAHN: In 1990, in celebration of CNN's 10th anniversary, the network was looking for a strong recognizable voice of authority.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Jones, could I get one with a little bit more emphasis on the word this, please.

JONES: Yes.

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ZAHN: James Earl Jones was the first person who came to mind.

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JONES: Bringing you the world for 25 years, this is CNN.

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ZAHN: He's been the voice of CNN ever since. While Darth Vader and his voice over work brought Jones fame, his stage roles brought him professional satisfaction.

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JONES: I Still can't get over how pretty she is and how handsome I am.

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ZAHN: He recently received a Tony award nomination for playing Norman Thayer in "On Golden Pond."

He's already won two Tonys.

ZAHN (on camera): So, it's interesting to me that in this production of "On Golden Pond" most of the cast is black and yet you didn't edit out some of the more inflammatory, bigoted remarks directed against blacks or Jews.

Is that uncomfortable for you?

JONES: I didn't want to change that.

Normally those jokes are pretty cruel. You couldn't get him any crueler than using race and to remove that, I thought, would take some of the cruelty out of that character and I didn't want to.

ZAHN: Your character, Norman Thayer, is also a guy who is obsessed with his own mortality.

JONES: Yes.

ZAHN: Is that something you think about much?

JONES: I'm not worried about death, but Norman taunts death.

He does -- bring it on.

ZAHN: He doesn't want to go?

JONES: Doesn't want to go.

ZAHN: He's not ready.

JONES: Doesn't want to go, hasn't done it all yet.

ZAHN (voice-over): Now in his mid-70s, James Earl Jones is happy, and busy, and still looking for challenges.

ZAHN (on camera): Have you done it all yet?

JONES: No, no, no, no.

ZAHN: What's left? JONES: I'm not sure if I want to do it all because, you know, I --death is okay, it is something that happens to all of us, and that's kind of glorious, isn't it?

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WHITFIELD: Paula Zahn, her conversation with James Earl Jones.

Still much more ahead on CNN SATURDAY.

In a few moments, "IN THE MONEY," at 2:00 Eastern, former Reagan advisor Michael Deaver reflects on the former president -- almost a year now since his death.

At 3:00 Eastern, "CNN PRESENTS," fly boys a personal look at former President Bush's military experience in World War II.

But first, here is Jack Cafferty with a preview of "IN THE MONEY."

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN HOST "IN THE MONEY": Thanks. Coming up on "IN THE MONEY" -- the Iraqis say they'll put Saddam Hussein on trial before the summer is over. We'll take a look at some of the best and worst case scenarios, assuming it happens at all.

Also, do you have a recent college graduate who has left college and moved back into your house without a job? It's a growing trend in this country. It may not necessarily be such a bad thing. We'll take a look at that.

And are women at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to raking in the big bucks? We'll talk to the author of the new book, "Nice Girls Don't Get Rich."

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: It is Noon in Aruba where the search continues for a missing American teen; 9:00 in Santa Maria, California, where the Michael Jackson jury has the weekend off.
Hello everyone, I'm Fredricka Whitfield at CNN's global headquarters in Atlanta. Ahead this hour:

Fear of a terrible crime in paradise: We'll have the latest for a search of a young, American teen missing in Aruba.

Also, a new report on the Quran controversy at the Guantanamo Bay Prison. Will it help or hurt the U.S. military's case? Plus:

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe this year, if we can get the Pakistani's to cooperate, we'll be able to track him down.

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WHITFIELD: And he should know. We talk with the CIA man who's been hot on Osama bin Laden's trail, but first a look at the top stories, "Now in the News."

Two Iraqi police officers were wounded by a suicide car bombing in Baghdad. Meanwhile, Iraqi and U.S. soldiers are keeping up the pressure on suspected insurgents south of the capital, which the military believes is a staging area for daily attacks.

Hundreds of mourners turned out in Beirut today for the funeral of anti-Syrian journalist, Samir Kassir. Kassir was killed by a car bomb earlier this week. FBI agents are assisting in the investigation. Lebanon's opposition blames Syria and its agents for the killing. It is calling for a major demonstration on Monday.

Palestinian parliamentary elections have been put off indefinitely. Leader Mahmoud Abbas, reportedly, is buying time to fend off a growing challenge from Hamas. Hamas, which opposes peace with Israel, condemned the delay, but says for now it will honor the current cease-fire agreement.

Keeping you informed, CNN's best source for news.

The search continues for an Alabama high school honor student. Natalee Holloway was on a trip with other students to the Caribbean island of Aruba when she was last seen on Monday. Holloway's mother has traveled to the island to help with the search. Karl Penhaul has the latest now from Palm Beach, Aruba -- Karl.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, Natalee Holloway's mother, Beth, and the Island police chief have just staged a brief press conference. In that press conference, Natalee's mother, Beth, has described natalee as an "angel," as a "straight A student." She also went on to vow that she would not leave Aruba without Natalee. Then, the deputy police chief of Aruba, Gerold Dompig, went on to describe that the police are receiving tips by the hour, that police are working hard on those in cooperation with the liaison offices and investigators from the FBI who have traveled from the states to Aruba.

He said at present, Aruba police are working on three theories. He said the first of those theories is that three people that he described as "people of interest," the three men in whose company Natalee was last seen, may have done something wrong to Natalee. He also said a second theory is that Natalee may have chosen to have gone missing of her own accord. He said the third theory is that of a possible kidnapping. It must be said, though, Fredricka, that Aruba really has no history of violent crime towards tourists, kidnappings, and murders of foreign nationals here in this country would be entirely out of keeping -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: And Karl, two of those theories make sense or sound plausible. But why are police now suspecting that of those three options that possibly she may be missing on her own accord?

PENHAUL: Those are the three, as I say, theories that they're working on. They haven't ruled any of these theories in or out. Those are the working theories. And as I say, because of the investigation, they have questioned the three men in whose company Natalee was last seen outside a bar known as Carlos 'n Charlie's in the very early hours of Monday, and so far, there is nothing to confirm or rule out that foul play has been -- has occurred and that's why they're still also leaving open the theory that Natalee may have gone missing of her own accord.

WHITFIELD: And Karl, what's the extent of the search? We're looking at video which has shown some searching at sea and on land. Can you describe a little bit, the measures they're takeing?

PENHAUL: Yeah. There are a number of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) going on in this search. There are a number of volunteers, both family members, Aruban nationals, and also tourists here who are helping as volunteers in those search, putting up missing posters, but there are also a detachment of Dutch marines, the rumor is that Dutch dependency, after all, is a detachment of Dutch marines involved in that search. The island's police force is involved in searching, along with the FBI officer who are flying in. And Aruba's deputy chief commissioner did say that over the coming days, they are likely to call on more help from the FBI as well -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. Karl Penhaul, thanks so much for that update from Palm Beach, Aruba. We're turning now to the Pentagon, a military inquiry details how U.S. military personnel treated detainees and the Quran both intentionally inadvertently at the Guantanamo detention facility. Kathleen Koch is at the Pentagon with details of the report.

KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredricka, obviously, a sensitive subject. And the Pentagon, last night after 7:00, released the actual findings of this very detailed report by Brigadier General Jay Hood. And his team looked into 19 alleged incidents and it turns out, according to them, that only five of the alleged incidents had any merit.

First, they discovered one incident of guards kicking a detainee's Quran. One case when a guard's urine actually splashed on to a detainee and a Quran through an air vent accidentally. Then one incident between water balloons between two guards getting two Qurans wet.

There were two other incidents, on in which a contract interrogator stepped on a detainee's Quran and then did later apologize. And then finally the last incident in which two-word obscenity, in English was found written in a detainee's Quran. But because that detainee spoke English, it couldn't be determined whether or not he or a U.S. guard there actually wrote that word.

And, very interesting, that the probe also did find that there were some 15 incidents in which detainees themselves abused their own Qurans, things like tearing out pages, spitting on their Qurans and a couple of incidents where detainees actually tried to flush their own Qurans down the toilet. The Pentagon believes this is a very fair, a very thorough probe. We're told investigators looked at more than 30,000 documents. The White House in a statement today praised the report, saying quote, "Our men and women in the military adhere to the highest standards, including when it comes to respecting and protecting religious freedom. It's unfortunate that some have chosen to take out of context a few isolated incidents by a few individuals without making clear the policies and practices of the overwhelming vast majority, the 99 percent of our military personnel."

And of course, this probe was prompted by the "Newsweek" report that was retracted in which it was claimed that U.S. service members had, themselves, tried to flush a Quran down the toilet and the probe found that there was no evidence of that whatsoever. And the Pentagon, Fredricka, does now believe that all U.S. military personnel, not only at Guantanamo Bay, but at detention centers around the world are very much on notice about the proper handling of the U.S. Muslim holy book -- the Muslim holy book, I should say.

WHITFIELD: And Kathleen, you mentioned this probe involves some 30,000 documents. Does this mean that these incidents, such as the water balloons, etcetera, were documented or most of this information comes from witness testimony or people that they've questioned?

KOCH: It's unclear, Fredricka, because there was a real mix of information that went into this probe: Interview with his detainees, documents that were looked at, so we're not really clear where they came from. But, the Pentagon believes they have gotten to the bottom, at least, of these incidents that had been alleged.

WHITFIELD: All right, Kathleen Koch at the Pentagon. Thanks so much.

A check of the weather coming up and then, you may remember this, but you may not know how some of the images from Tiananmen Square made it out of the China. We'll have that coming up.

Michael Jackson's case is in the hands of the jury. Rusty Dornin reports on what happened in the courtroom.

And he's a familiar sight and even more familiar sound: The voice of Darth Vader and the voice of CNN, Paula Zahn, sits down with James Earl Jones.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Hi, I'm Rob Marciano in the CNN Weather Center. Time for a look at your allergy forecast. Problem pollens out there now: Grasses out West, the rag weeds and hardwoods still pollinating where you see less in the way of bright colors, Florida in the southeast, where it's been raining of late. But it looks like Memphis, Tennessee, in the very high category. Hope you're feeling well this Saturday and enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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WHITFIELD: Stormy day in parts of the Midwest. CNN meteorologist, Rob Marciano is keeping an eye out for tornados -- Rob.

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WHITFIELD: Today marks 16 years since China crushed the pro- democracy movement in Tiananmen Square. There was no sign of public commutations at Beijing Square today, just tighter security. An honor guard raised the Chinese flag over the square as the crowd looked on, but that happens every day.

In Hong Kong, tens of thousands of people remember the anniversary with a sober candlelight vigil. Descents tolerated, to some degree, in the British colony. Hundreds of students were believed to have been killed on June 4, 1989 when the military rolled tanks into Tiananmen Square. Protesters inspired by the democratic wave sweeping Eastern Europe were unarmed.

At a security conference in Singapore today, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld took a harder line with China. He questioned China's massive military buildup when he says China is not threatened by any other country.

CNN was the eyes and ears for the world when the iron fist came down. Our veteran journalists member that day in Tiananmen Square, 16 springs ago. It's part of our 25th anniversary coverage.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) MIKE CHINOY, CNN ASIA CORRESPONDENT: Yaobang's death on the 15th of April, 1989 was the catalyst for everything that followed in that spring. Yaobang was, to many Chinese, a symbol of hopes for reform. He'd been ousted by communist party hardliners two years earlier.

WANG DAN, TIANANMEN LEADER: Due to his death, we think we have to do something like go to the street to show our sorrow for him.

BERNARD SHAW, FMR. CNN ANCHOR: CNN had been there to cover that historic summit between Deng Xiao-ping and Mikhail Gorbachev, but the crowds just multiplied and increased. They had taken over Tiananmen Square, demanding democracy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Unbelievable, we all came here to cover a summit and we walked into a revolution.

CYNDE STRAND, CNN PHOTOGRAPHER, TIANANMEN SQUARE: We couldldn't believe that the government tolerated this, that it had let it go on this far. They were being embarrassed, they were being humiliated on TV every night around the world and they pulled the plug on it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And now, as we report to our viewers around the world, martial law has been declared in Beijing. I'm being told that the government officials are coming into the CNN control room now.

ALEC MIRAN, CNN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: And they said, we are here to tell you that the coverage of Gorbachev is over. Your task is over.

The bosses are saying that for us to go off the air, we would require it in writing. Our policy is that the government has ordered us to shut down our facility. We are shutting down our facility. Yeah.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can we sign off, may we sign off?

MIRAN: Yeah.

SHAW: OK. We heard the orders. We have our instructions from headquarters in Atlanta.

STRAND: After martial law was declared and they pulled the plug on our broadcast, we didn't have a way to get our pictures out. So, we do something called "pigeon" them out. And in those days, it was fairly easy to do. You would take your tape to the airport -- a copy of your tape and you would find a sympathetic person to carry the tape for you and in this case, we had tapes taken to Hong Kong.

On the afternoon of June 3, I mean, you could feel it. You could just feel things were going in a bad direction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The assault on Tiananmen Square is now underway.

CHINOY: Late in that evening, the soldiers began to move in. I could see below me little bicycle carts where people who'd been shot were dumped in the back and then the rider would pedal furiously, taking these victims off to hospitals.

WANG DAN: One of my classmates came back from Tiananmen Square and he told me that the troops were shooting at the students.

CHINOY: And as dawn broke, the people's liberation army was in full control of the square. The student movement had been crushed.

It happened the day after, in the morning. A column of tanks had started to leave Tiananmen Square. Out of nowhere, this man in a white shirt ran in front of the tank. The tank stopped and, for a heart stopping four or five minutes, there was this extraordinary drama. The big question was, what would happen? Will he be run over? Would they shoot him?

WANG DAN: I saw that picture. It was a young man standing in front of the tanks. We never know who he is and right now, nobody know where he is. I was arrested in 1989 in July.

CHINOY: Wang Dan spent most of the decade after Tiananmen, in China in jail. He's now a graduate at Halved University.

WANG DAN: I was pretty proud of my role at the time. I thought finally I can really do something to change history.

SHAW: That was our contribution, being there, reporting what was happening. It was historic. The People's Republic of China is going to be the next superpower and what we were able to do was to provide a window for the world to peek through and see that beneath the facade, there is much ferment, much unrest.

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WHITFIELD: Jurors in the Michael Jackson case are resting this weekend at home, a day after attorneys for both sides completed their closing statements. The jury will begin deliberating again on Monday morning to decide the fate of the pop superstar accused of child molestation. Rusty Dornin recaps what's been going on.

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RUSTY DORNIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With his mother on his arm, his father close by, Michael Jackson gave one small wave to fans before going into what would be the last chance to sway the jury. Five of Jackson's brothers and sisters came to court, the largest showing of the Jackson family since the early days of the trial. In his final two-hour plea to the panel, defense attorney, Thomas Mesereau, repeatedly described the accuser and his family as con artists, actors, and liars. He asked the jury to question why the boy didn't claim molestation until after the family had seen two lawyers.

SUSAN FILAN, LEGAL ANALYST: He's not slurring the victim for the purpose of putting the victim on trial. He's slurring the victim, because he thinks this victim is committing a fraud and a perjury on this court and he even said to this jury, "don't let them do it to you."

DORNIN: Mesereau urged the jury to consider reasonable doubt and throw the case out the door. But prosecutor Ron Zonen got the last word. He asked jurors, how could they believe that Jackson's practice of sleeping with boys is not sexual?

CRAIG SMITH, LEGAL ANALYST: If he sleeps with a boy who's 12- year-old -- who's 12 years old and he's a middle aged man, if he sleeps with a boy 365 nights a year, that's not a friendship, that's a relationship.

DORNIN: The defense argued that Jackson would have been stupid to molest the accuser after the documentary aired, but prosecutors countered that Jackson would do it because he could, because the accuser was in love with him.

The prosecution made their final impression by showing tape of the police interviewer with the accuser, where the boy, in halting tones, claims Jackson molested him.

Jackson's gaunt appearance, in recent weeks, has drawn questions about his health, as did his visit to a hospital this week.

RAYMONE BAIN, JACKSON SPOKESWOMAN: It was not because he was sick, but because Mr. Gregory said you look a little dehydrated and I feel that you need electrolytes.

DORNIN: Jackson has been to the hospital twice before during the in the trial, once complaining of back pain, another with flu symptoms. And again, on his mother's arm and with a weak wave, Jackson left the courthouse to return only when his fate has been decided.

(on camera): When his fate has been decided, the judge told Jackson he has one hour to get to the courthouse. The jury deliberated less than two hours before going home for the weekend. They'll be back on Monday morning at 8:30. We've also learned that there will be a live audio feed in the courtroom when the verdict is reached.

Rusty Dornin, CNN, Santa Maria, California.

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WHITFIELD: And we'll be right back right, after this.

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WHITFIELD: Bottom of the hour and now in the news, the personal secretary to the late Pope John Paul II says he didn't burn the pontiff's private papers, as the papal will had instructed. The archbishop told Polish radio the documents are filled with great riches that should be preserved. He declined to give any details about the manuscripts, however. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is postponing parliamentary elections set for next month. Abbas says he wants a new election law in place first. The move appears designed to give him time to fight off a challenge from Hamas. No new date for the election has been set.

And 10 more FBI agents are joining the search in Aruba for missing teen Natalie Holloway. She was last seen leaving a nightclub Monday morning. Holloway, from Alabama, was in Aruba with several other high school students for a graduation celebration.

Osama bin Laden has alluded the U.S. for almost four years now. The operation to capture or kill him began after the Twin Towers fell.

CNN national security correspondent David Ensor talked to a former CIA officer who was first in to Afghanistan.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Until this day, Gary Schroen, the CIA man who led the first American team into Afghanistan just days after 9/11, had never seen the site where so many died.

GARY SCHROEN, CIA: When you think what went on, if you remember seeing that -- those images, I mean, my God, it just takes your breath away to stand here.

ENSOR (on camera): And how many days after this came down did you get into Afghanistan to start the fight back?

SCHROEN: We were -- I think we actually left the United States on the 19th of September.

ENSOR (voice-over): Schroen got his marching orders from Cofer Black, then head of the CIA's Counter Terrorism Center. He was to link up with the rebel Northern Alliance, tell them the Americans would be there soon to help defeat the Taliban government. And there was another charge.

SCHROEN: I was to find bin Laden, kill him and bring his head back to the United States in a box on dry ice.

ENSOR (on camera): Did he mean that literally, do you think?

SCHROEN: Knowing Cofer, perhaps he did. But I took it as I -- that he was wanting to really demonstrate to us that this was very, very serious, that the gloves were off and that we were there to really go after this guy and his lieutenants and to kill them.

ENSOR (voice-over): As Schroen writes in his new book "First In," his seven-man team were given just five days to get ready to go into Afghanistan.

SCHROEN: So, we need tents, camping gear. Sort of like on a -- let's say it's a hunting expedition in the Rockies or something, and so we went out to local camping goods stores and sporting goods stores, and bought our gear.

ENSOR (on camera): Really? I mean I would have imagined -- I guess we imagined the CIA has, you know, like in James Bond, a guy who does all that.

SCHROEN: Absolutely not.

ENSOR: What about money?

SCHROEN: Oh, we had about $3 million that we took along with us in cash. Filled three cardboard boxes.

ENSOR (voice-over): They flew into Afghanistan in a CIA-owned Russian-made helicopter with souped-up American avionics. They gave it the tail number 91101.

SCHROEN: And everyday we'd look at the helicopter, we'd think back on this and why we were there in Afghanistan.

ENSOR: Schroen's team rallied the Northern Alliance, which was reeling from the murder of its commander by al Qaeda. They helped call in U.S. air strikes on Taliban front lines.

The CIA's quick work, say Bush administration officials, shortened the war and saved a lot of American lives, but not without a few close calls. Like the time CIA headquarters called to say a predator drone had spotted two guys walking around a Taliban airfield, one of them tall and thin.

SCHROEN: We think it's bin Laden, and we have a Hellfire on board and we want to shoot these two guys -- we want to blow these two guys up. So, I said, "Well, give me the coordinates." And so I -- we check, and I said that's our airfield. That's a CIA airfield and those are our two -- those CIA officers walking the ground. You mean they're really -- it's not bin Laden? I said, "No, it's our pilot."

ENSOR: Gary Schroen loved his tough assignment in Afghanistan. He has one regret: How do you feel about the fact that bin Laden is still out there?

SCHROEN: It's one of the frustrations that I have, is to watch this man still, you know, out there, free and still creating, you know, plans to attack the United States. Maybe this year, if we can get the Pakistanis to cooperate, we'll be able to track him down.

ENSOR: Schroen argues the U.S. will need to beef up its military forces on the Afghan-Pakistani border and send in more CIA teams like his if it wants to be sure of catching or killing Osama bin Laden.

David Ensor, CNN, New York.

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WHITFIELD: Well, coming up: Ready to plan that summer vacation? We're going to tell you whether or not the Florida beaches are ready for you. We'll be right back.

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WHITFIELD: Hurricane season officially began June 1st, and forecasters predict another nasty season straight ahead.

Remember Ivan, Francis and Charlie? The memory lingers as Florida moves into its high-tourist season, and we focus our "Weekend Getaways" this time on the state's beaches. Travel writer Chelle Koster Walton joins us from Ft. Meyers, Florida.

Good to see you Chelle.

CHELLE KOSTER WALTON, TRAVEL WRITER: Good to see you. Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right, well among the hard-hit areas last year Captiva, Sanibel, are those areas ready for new tourists this summer?

WALTON: Oh, definitely.

WHITFIELD: Really?

WALTON: They're all ready for tourists. They have been. As you may know, the high season for a lot of Florida is the winter months, and they were ready for tourists then. Not completely. Attraction- wise, yes everything was in place, the beaches looked good. Accommodations -- down a little bit. That was problem during the high season, especially because we had FEMA workers still here and construction workers.

And because some of our big resorts have not yet opened, they are taking the opportunity to completely renovate. So as it comes around, Florida is looking actually better for tourism than it did before the hurricane.

WHITFIELD: Wow.

So might there -- like you described -- kind of pockets of still some rebuilding and trying to fine-tune but does that mean that there really are some locations that aren't necessarily 100 percent, but still can accommodate the tourists overall where they can enjoy themselves, the beaches or maybe some of the attractions there overall?

WALTON: Oh, definitely. As I say, they're all ready to accept tourists. Some are not 100 percent.

WHITFIELD: So how do you weed through and find out which ones are ready and which ones are not quite ready?

WALTON: Well, it's always a good idea, whenever you're traveling to Florida or anywhere these days, to call your accommodations first, to make your reservations first. WHITFIELD: So what are some of the questions you need to ask? How do you know that some of these hotels are being completely honest with you, because a lot of them, you know, would like to see the business, and you're not necessarily sure if they're telling you the whole story about what you'll be able to enjoy when you get there.

WALTON: They would like to see the business -- they would like to see the business, but they don't want their guests to have a bad experience. That's not a good thing. So, they're not going to lie to you, and they're not going to open before their time. Some resorts are partially open. You want to ask, well, are the restaurants open? Is it full service? Are the pools open? The laundromats. You know, whatever you feel like you're going to use. You want to ask those questions. But for the most part, they're not going to open until they're ready for the full experience.

And really, the biggest place to worry about, I would say, for the summer, because it is a summer destination in Florida, is Pensacola, because that was hit hard. And it's looking very good, but a lot of the accommodations are not back.

WHITFIELD: Now, what about prices? What can you expect? That the prices might be rather high, higher than usual or lower so that folks are lured to come back?

WALTON: Well, the prices have not really reflected any change, any hurricane change, because there is a demand for the rooms, so they don't have to discount the rooms, and because unless they're not working full service, up to full par, then there's no reason. You know, they have the demand.

There are some places that are offering -- I just saw a release the other day, if your name is Jean, Charlie, Ivan or Frances, then you get a discount on rooms or a group of hotels in Florida. But it's typical actually for this time of year. Summer is a lower season in southern Florida, in central Florida, so, the rates are better than in winter. But in Pensacola in the panhandle, it's prime season, and you can expect those rates to be the same.

WHITFIELD: So, any favorite picks?

WALTON: Any favorite picks for Florida in general or for where the hurricanes were?

WHITFIELD: Yeah. For Florida in general, since you know, those were some of the hard hit domestic areas that we know of last year.

WALTON: Well, Florida, the panhandle is one of my favorite destinations. And, like I say, that is hot in the summer, and -- hot tourism-wise, and it's a little cooler than it is down here where we get a lot of Florida tourism and drive market this time of year. So, the panhandle is one of my favorites. Some of the places that were actually hit by the hurricanes are my favorite. Ft. Pierce area on the East Coast, Sanibel, Captiva, right here, my hometowns. Love them. Everybody loves them. You can't help it. WHITFIELD: All right. Just a reminder, folks. Okay, you're coming from Ft. Meyers, Florida. And of course, that would be one of your favorite picks. Chelle Koster Walton, thanks so much for joining us.

WALTON: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: Well, coming up, a profile of the man who has taken on so many roles, both on stage and in film. And he's also the voice of CNN. Don't miss our conversation with James Earl Jones.

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WHITFIELD: Returning worn clothes to the store -- is it right? And what to do when your pharmacist embarrasses you. Questions of ethics with syndicated columnist Bruce Weinstein, author of the forthcoming book, "Life Principles -- Feeling Goodbye Doing Good." Bruce joins us from New York. All right, good to see you.

BRUCE WEINSTEIN, AUTHOR: You, too, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, our first ethics question of the day involves a familiar dilemma -- familiar to a lot of folks, not me personally. A viewer writes, "A woman I know makes a habit of returning clothes, appliances and other purchases after she has used them, even though nothing is wrong with them. I feel she is taking advantage of the generous return policies. She argues that if a store gives her the right to return something that she has purchased, then is it ethical for her to take them up on it." Well, who is right?

WEINSTEIN: The person who sent the question is right. I mean, just because we can do something doesn't mean that we ought to. And quite frankly, Fredricka, I don't know what's worse -- to do what this woman is doing by returning perfectly good items or to couch the behavior in ethical language to say that it's right, because it's really hard to imagine how this could ever be considered ethical. I mean, after all, companies create these return policies to promote trust with customers, and this woman is exploiting that trust and possibly making it harder for future customers to return items in good faith, because once managers get wise to this sort of practice, they'll crack down.

WHITFIELD: Right. They may change the policy, and this woman's behavior will help change the policy affecting so many people potentially.

WEINSTEIN: Unfairly so.

WHITFIELD: All right. Well, here's another question. Recently, I visited my local pharmacy to get a medication for a sensitive condition I have. Upon reading the prescription, the pharmacist said my name out loud, which everyone could hear, and then he held up a voucher for the medication that I gave him, which could clearly be seen by the customers behind me. A friend of mine says I'm making a big deal out of nothing and should forget about it. I feel I should do something, but what? WEINSTEIN: You know, patients have a right to have confidentiality protected, and therefore pharmacists and other health care providers have a duty to protect confidentiality. So this is a big deal. And the person who sent the question in might consider calling the pharmacist back or meeting with the pharmacist personally and letting the pharmacist know that this was embarrassing and suggesting, perhaps, a private meeting in the future to prevent embarrassment. And, also, in so doing, the writer would be protecting future customers, future patients as well, just like the writer of the previous question. We're in a great position sometimes to protect not only ourselves, but future people from harm or injustice.

WHITFIELD: Can a parallel experience be when you're at the pharmacy, perhaps the pharmacist may have a couple questions for you aloud about your prescription, and consequently, everybody's going to hear it. So, you know, you're in a public place, you're in a store where there are other customers. Honestly, can you expect that your privacy is going to be respected to Nth degree?

WEINSTEIN: Yes, you can, because increasingly, pharmacies are creating special areas for private conversations between pharmacist and patient. Sometimes all it means is moving a few feet away from the crowd and talking privately or perhaps doing it over the phone if necessary. But there are ways to protect patient confidentiality, and pharmacists, in particular, and in fact, all of us, in general, ought to take that seriously.

WHITFIELD: Okay. Or perhaps even lowering the voice. Whatever happened to a whisper, right?

WEINSTEIN: Very good. Exactly. That's a good point.

WHITFIELD: All right. Bruce Weinstein, thanks so much.

WEINSTEIN: You too. Thank you, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Well, if you have a question for the ethics guy, e- mail your dilemma to ethics@cnn.com. We'll get them on the air, just like that.

Coming up, his voice is the network's signature. The story behind James Earl Jones and CNN, straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: Well, CNN has covered every corner of the world for a quarter century now.

The news defined us, as did an actor's voice. CNN's Paula Zahn takes a look as CNN celebrates 25 years.

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PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: Sometimes a voice says it all.

James Earl Jones has won two Tony awards, could win another one on Sunday, and he has appeared in more than 100 movies.

But its his powerful, unforgettable voice that echoes through our memories and you may not even realize that he has also played a defining role in CNN's 25-year history, which we're celebrating this week.

(voice-over): James Earl Jones is best known from films and television, but acting on Broadway is his first love.

(on camera): How hard is it to play to that top balcony up there?

JAMES EARL JONES, ACTOR: You know, actually, I'm looking down most of the time, except during the curtain calls.

I do look up there.

ZAHN: I hope so.

JONES: To thank them for coming, yes.

ZAHN (voice-over): When I visited Jones on the stage of "On Golden Pond," it's was obvious this is where he feels at home.

JONES: I love standing in a dark -- behind a dark curtain every night, which is, you know, preparation.

After you've loosened up your voice with "bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah, those voice...

Zahn (on camera): That's magic I have to learn? -- "bah dah bah duh bah duh" -- what am I saying?

JONES: "Bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah."

ZAHN: "Bah dah gah dah, bah dah gah dah."

JONES: Inside the bahs, the gahs and the tuhs, you know?

ZAHN: Your grandfather described your voice as, as beautiful as a bell.

JONES: Yes.

ZAHN: That's a wonderful thing to say about somebody's voice.

JONES: That's nice, isn't it? Nice review from grandpa.

ZAHN: But there was something he heard in the register of your voice, or the tenor of your voice, that touched him.

JONES: Perhaps every child has that, before it gets cluttered, you know, with all kinds of concerns and fears.

ZAHN (voice-over): James Earl Jones knows that from personal experience. His parents divorced before he was born, leaving him with his grandparents.

His early years on the family's Mississippi farm were happy but when he turned six, his grandparents decided to move north, intending to leave young James with another relative.

He refused and eventually moved to Michigan with the rest of his family but all that left him so traumatized that he developed a severe stutter and barely spoke for almost eight years.

(on camera): Why did you spend so much time in silence as a kid?

JONES: Because stuttering was so embarrassing and really painful.

I mean, I set off peals of laughter in Sunday school when I'd read my verses.

ZAHN: That couldn't have felt good?

JONES: Oh, no, it hurt -- it does hurt, yes.

But I know accept when people laugh, you know.

ZAHN (voice-over): When Jones was 14, a high school teacher recognized his love of poetry and encouraged him to speak again. His love of words eventually led him to the stage.

JONES: I started my Broadway debut in this theater, the Court Theater. The play was "Sunrise at Campobello," about Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and I remember walking on stage one night and my line was, "Mrs. Roosevelt, dinner is served."

I got to m -- mum -- I couldn't get any further and the audience sat there.

They knew what was happening. They waited for me to get it out. I was -- I'm very grateful for that.

That's the only time I've stuttered on stage.

ZAHN (voice-over): Surprisingly, the boy who was once embarrassed to speak publicly went on to have a successful stage career, performing in roles like "The Great White Hope," "Othello," "Master Herald and the Boys," and "Fences."

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DARTH VADER: I am your father.

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ZAHN: But the role that won Jones worldwide recognition was not on stage, but the big screen.

JONES: I became a commercial actor because of that guy. He wanted the voice of authority, you know, from Darth Vader and... ZAHN (on camera): So, in spite of all those years of toiling in the theater, it was George Lucas that made you commercially viable with this great gift of a voice you have?

JONES: I think so, yes.

ZAHN: So, when you, in your mind's eye, try to figure out what Darth Vader was supposed to sound like, where did that come from?

JONES: Well, I was able to look at the screen and see the image of him, that affected me -- that dark figure -- that had an impact on me.

The key to Darth Vader is a narrow band of expression, no inflictions, he is not human.

ZAHN (voice-over): Jones was paid just $9,000 for his voice-work in the first Star Wars film, but the movie opened the door to a lucrative voice-over career.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Start rolling. This is line one, take one, please.

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ZAHN: Including right here at CNN.

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JONES: You saw it on CNN.

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ZAHN: In 1990, in celebration of CNN's 10th anniversary, the network was looking for a strong recognizable voice of authority.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Jones, could I get one with a little bit more emphasis on the word this, please.

JONES: Yes.

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ZAHN: James Earl Jones was the first person who came to mind.

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JONES: Bringing you the world for 25 years, this is CNN.

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ZAHN: He's been the voice of CNN ever since. While Darth Vader and his voice over work brought Jones fame, his stage roles brought him professional satisfaction.

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JONES: I Still can't get over how pretty she is and how handsome I am.

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ZAHN: He recently received a Tony award nomination for playing Norman Thayer in "On Golden Pond."

He's already won two Tonys.

ZAHN (on camera): So, it's interesting to me that in this production of "On Golden Pond" most of the cast is black and yet you didn't edit out some of the more inflammatory, bigoted remarks directed against blacks or Jews.

Is that uncomfortable for you?

JONES: I didn't want to change that.

Normally those jokes are pretty cruel. You couldn't get him any crueler than using race and to remove that, I thought, would take some of the cruelty out of that character and I didn't want to.

ZAHN: Your character, Norman Thayer, is also a guy who is obsessed with his own mortality.

JONES: Yes.

ZAHN: Is that something you think about much?

JONES: I'm not worried about death, but Norman taunts death.

He does -- bring it on.

ZAHN: He doesn't want to go?

JONES: Doesn't want to go.

ZAHN: He's not ready.

JONES: Doesn't want to go, hasn't done it all yet.

ZAHN (voice-over): Now in his mid-70s, James Earl Jones is happy, and busy, and still looking for challenges.

ZAHN (on camera): Have you done it all yet?

JONES: No, no, no, no.

ZAHN: What's left? JONES: I'm not sure if I want to do it all because, you know, I --death is okay, it is something that happens to all of us, and that's kind of glorious, isn't it?

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WHITFIELD: Paula Zahn, her conversation with James Earl Jones.

Still much more ahead on CNN SATURDAY.

In a few moments, "IN THE MONEY," at 2:00 Eastern, former Reagan advisor Michael Deaver reflects on the former president -- almost a year now since his death.

At 3:00 Eastern, "CNN PRESENTS," fly boys a personal look at former President Bush's military experience in World War II.

But first, here is Jack Cafferty with a preview of "IN THE MONEY."

JACK CAFFERTY, CNN HOST "IN THE MONEY": Thanks. Coming up on "IN THE MONEY" -- the Iraqis say they'll put Saddam Hussein on trial before the summer is over. We'll take a look at some of the best and worst case scenarios, assuming it happens at all.

Also, do you have a recent college graduate who has left college and moved back into your house without a job? It's a growing trend in this country. It may not necessarily be such a bad thing. We'll take a look at that.

And are women at a distinct disadvantage when it comes to raking in the big bucks? We'll talk to the author of the new book, "Nice Girls Don't Get Rich."

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