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On the Border; Jamestown Skeleton; Red Tide Woes; Ring Ka- Ching

Aired June 08, 2005 - 05:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, thank you for waking up with us. Welcome to the second half-hour of DAYBREAK.
Coming up in the next 30 minutes, researchers have found some skeletons in America's closet and they're trying to bone up on one in particular.

And do you love shellfish? We have some bad tidings that could make you a bit crabby.

But first, "Now in the News."

We are following a developing terror probe in northern California. The FBI has arrested four men in Lodi, two local Muslim leaders, along with a father and son. Reports say agents are looking into possible al Qaeda links. Officials will release more details this morning.

In Aruba, two men accused in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway appear in court today. Prosecutors will not confirm it, but the men's lawyer tells CNN they're accused of homicide. The Alabama teen disappeared nine days ago while on a high school graduation trip.

It's billed as the world's biggest permanent indoor sculpture. There it is. And it opens to the public today at famed Guggenheim Museum. Called "The Matter of Time." The steelwork is nearly one- and-a-half football fields in length. It weighs 1,200 tons. American artist Richard Serra created this sculpture.

To the Forecast Center and -- Chad.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Good morning -- Carol.

COSTELLO: I'd love to see that.

MYERS: It would be kind of a monstrous looking thing. Like walking around an entire city in there. It's all round.

Good morning.

(WEATHER REPORT)

Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad. In the fight for Iraq, three U.S. soldiers have been killed in two insurgent attacks. That comes as U.S. and Iraqi troops try to root out insurgents in one town on the Iraqi-Syrian border. So far, 28 suspected insurgents have been detained.

Jane Arraf is with the troops.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE ARRAF, CNN BAGHDAD BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): This is modern warfare in an ancient city. U.S. attack helicopters overhead. Tanks in the streets. The danger is insurgents lying in wait in the alleys where these vehicles can't go.

With the buildup of U.S. forces along the Syrian border, this was a major show of force by the American and Iraqi army in Tal Afar. As they moved into town, gunfire flew. An American officer working with Iraqi soldiers was killed. Three suspected insurgents also died.

The Siraiah (ph) neighborhood is believed to be a stronghold of insurgents. On the walls of one of the houses was scrawled "long live the Mujahideen."

Some of the raids focused on specific targets; others were looking for anything suspicious.

(on camera): This is one of a series of houses on this block that U.S. and Iraqi forces have gone through to see if there were insurgents here. They've blown open the doors and gone through the entire house, but they haven't found anyone here or anything in it.

(voice-over): This Iraqi army lieutenant says the insurgents here have fled, but he promises we'll find them.

In a nearby house, Iraqi soldiers find what appears to be a manual for explosives and landmines. "These tracts are further proof these are terrorists," this soldier says, but he won't say how.

They round up weapons, including rocket-propelled grenades and warheads found in a cemetery. They detain at least 28 suspected insurgents, all Iraqi, and most of them on their wanted list for launching or organizing attacks.

The U.S. and Iraqi army commanders try to win over the few civilians they see. This one is an assistant school principal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell him that the Iraqi army and coalition forces are here to rid his neighborhood of terrorists.

ARRAF: The man says he hasn't seen any terrorists.

Iraqi General Mohsen Dosek (ph) tells him there are people in the neighborhood helping the insurgents. He says the neighborhood has to help the Iraqi army fight them.

At the same time, the army is trying to separate friend from foe. Jane Arraf, CNN, Tal Afar, Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COSTELLO: A former president says shut it down. Jimmy Carter says reports of abuse at Guantanamo Bay are a blow to America's reputation, and he says the prison for terror suspects should be closed. He spoke after a two-day human rights conference in Atlanta.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JIMMY CARTER, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think at this point it would not be possible, as I said in my remarks, to close down Guantanamo immediately. They would have to be phased out. Over a period of time there have been a lot of people there. Now there are about 520 people at Guantanamo and I think that all of those should be given a trial.

As a matter of fact, one thing that concerns me is the Secretary of Defense has publicly announced that if these people are tried and found innocent, they will not be released. This is not the way to treat people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Still, Carter says Amnesty International should not have called Guantanamo "the gulag of our time." He says it's not like a Soviet prison camp.

Howard Dean is at it again. Republicans say Howard Dean has been slinging some serious mud their way and the Democratic Party chairman is sure getting his hands dirty. In a Washington speech last week, you might recall, Dean said many Republicans had never made an honest living in their lives. This week in San Francisco, he went even farther.

Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD DEAN, DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIRMAN: The Republicans are not very friendly to different kinds of people. They're a pretty monolithic party. They pretty much, they all behave the same and they all look the same and they all -- you know it's pretty much a white Christian party.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Dean is defending his remarks. He tells CNN he doesn't hate Republicans, he just hates what their party is doing.

Republican Congresswoman Katherine Harris wants a Senate seat. She's the former Florida elections chief who was at the center of that drawn-out presidential recount in 2000. Harris plans to challenge incumbent Democratic Senator Bill Nelson next year. She's now serving her second term in the House. Still to come on DAYBREAK, historians thought they had the story behind Jamestown figured out, but a new discovery calls all of that into question.

Later, shellfish lovers be ware, a Red Tide in the northeast is putting a crimp on the catch of the day.

But first, here's a look at what else is making news this Wednesday.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: Just about every American kid knows the story of Jamestown, the first permanent English settlement in what would become the United States. Now archeologists are trying to learn if a skeleton unearthed during a dig there is one of Jamestown's 1607 founders. To do that, they have traveled to England, and that's where we take you this morning.

William Kelso is the Director of Archeology for the Preservation of Virginia Antiquities.

Good morning -- Bill.

WILLIAM KELSO, ASSN./VIRGINIA ANTIQUITIES: Good morning -- Carol.

COSTELLO: We all know the story of Captain John Smith. He's the guy we usually associate with leading the expedition to Jamestown. But who is Captain Bartholomew Gosnold?

KELSO: Captain Bartholomew Gosnold was the prime moving energy behind putting together the expedition that came to the shores and established Jamestown.

COSTELLO: And Captain Smith is usually credited with that, and he was a very boastful and proud guy. So why have we forgotten all about this Gosnold character?

KELSO: Well, unfortunately, Bartholomew Gosnold died very quickly after he landed at Jamestown. He didn't last beyond August of 1607. So, therefore, he could never really write about his experiences.

COSTELLO: And so archeologists unearthed his skeleton at Jamestown. Were there any clues along with that skeleton? And we're looking at pictures of Jamestown now.

KELSO: We'll we've unearthed a burial of a captain. The reason we know it's a captain is that this person was buried with a ceremonial spear or a staff. Then, so we know from documents that Captain Bartholomew Gosnold was buried ceremoniously. And so we think that's who he is, but we're now doing DNA studies to try and pin that down more exactly.

COSTELLO: And just refresh us, how difficult was it for him to organize this expedition to go from England to what would become the United States?

KELSO: Well, first of all, he had to get funding. You know that's usually a reason or a prime reason for an expedition. And then he had to put together the people that would be experienced enough to pull it off. And all this took years of planning.

COSTELLO: So you're in England because his sister is buried there and you want to pull a DNA sample to try to prove who this skeleton was. But it's really not as simple as that, is it?

KELSO: No, it isn't. The DNA that skeletons carry is a type that you can only get and match from a female relative. And that's almost impossible to find in a living relative. And so we have, fortunately, been able to get permission to obtain DNA samples from burials here in England of his sister and possibly from his niece. One is at Shelly Church (ph); the other is at Stowmarket near Ipswich.

COSTELLO: And what would you like Americans to learn from all of your endeavors?

KELSO: Well, I think one thing, Jamestown is fairly overlooked in history. And this project, this archeological project that we've been carrying out, I think, is bringing that to the forefront. Plus the fact just bringing up Bartholomew Gosnold's name will, I think, re-help refocus history and tell us really who were the prime movers behind that settlement.

COSTELLO: Truly amazing people.

Thank you very much, William Kelso, the Director of Archeology for the Preservation of Virginia Antiquities, joining DAYBREAK this morning.

KELSO: Thanks.

COSTELLO: Your news, money, weather and sports. It's 5:45 Eastern. Here's what's all new this morning.

The FBI might reveal more today about an ongoing terror probe in northern California. Agents made four arrests as they look into possible al Qaeda links. The men arrested are two local Muslim leaders, along with a father and son.

A court appearance is set in Aruba today for two men suspected in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Their lawyer tells CNN the two were accused of homicide. The Alabama teenager vanished in Aruba nine days ago.

In money news, two more airlines are saying that bankruptcy could be coming. Delta and Northwest airlines told Congress that pension deadlines could lead to dire financial futures. The government has already been forced to take over pension plans from United and US Airways.

In culture, legendary actress Anne Bankroft has died of cancer at the age of 73. The Academy Award winner is best known for her betrayal of Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate."

In sports, the LPGA is going to a playoff system. Starting next year, women golfers will compete for a place in a 32-player playoff field. It is the first such playoff format in professional tournament golf. The winner is assured of a $1 million payday -- Chad.

MYERS: And good morning, Carol.

(WEATHER REPORT)

COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad.

That's a look at the latest headlines for you this morning.

Still to come on DAYBREAK, a nasty phenomenon is putting a crimp on the availability of shellfish.

And a reminder, our e-mail "Question of the Morning," under the hood: do you buy American or import? We're talking cars this morning. Send us your thoughts at DAYBREAK@CNN.com.

We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: Shellfish lovers are having to suck it up in Massachusetts. Cape Cod Bay is closed to shellfishing because of an outbreak of Red Tide, which is a toxic algae. And if you've ever been on a beach during a breakout of Red Tide, you will know it. Makes it hard to breathe. It burns your eyes. That sort of thing.

Joining us to talk about the Red Tide outbreak is Andy Koch, the Shellfish Constable in Wellfleet, Massachusetts.

Welcome -- Andy.

ANDY KOCH, SHELLFISH CONSTABLE: Thank you.

COSTELLO: Hey, before we get to the interview, I want to check in with Chad, because he has a map of the area affected by this Red Tide.

MYERS: Well, yes, I guess the big question, Andy, is where is it affected and where should people not be eating this shellfish?

I've always -- I've lived in the northeast for a long time. We always hear about the "R" months, you know don't eat fish -- don't eat shellfish unless it's not in the "R" month. That's no longer the case, though. We're taking shellfish out of the bays now every year, every month for that matter.

But all this area, all the way from Cape Cod right through Provincetown, the entire area here, I guess, affected by this Red Tide now. All the way down, you're saying, to Martha's Vineyard?

KOCH: Yes, correct. That's the latest closure was just two days ago in Martha's Vineyard. It started in New Hampshire. Actually, there's a bloom that happens every spring up off Maine.

MYERS: Of course, right.

KOCH: And what happened was the large northeast winds we had and the heavy rain pushed it all down into the bay.

MYERS: Is that right?

KOCH: And the chilly temperatures we've had and conditions were just right for this thing to bloom.

COSTELLO: Tell us...

KOCH: And now it's moved all the way down to Martha's Vineyard.

COSTELLO: Tell us what it's like, is it hard to breathe all along there?

KOCH: No, it's quite different from the type you get down South. As a matter of fact, I go down to Florida on the west coast every year with my family in the middle of February, and there are days when the Red Tide is in down there where you're choking and gasping and you can't even hang out on the beach.

But this is a totally different type of Red Tide. It's a different algae, because the toxins...

COSTELLO: So how can you tell it's there -- Andy?

KOCH: Well you can see it when it's real heavy. I mean the ocean actually turns red when it's real concentrated. And a lot of the biologists, you know they can see it from the air out in the bay. And although the concentrations aren't real, real heavy here in Wellfleet, it's real heavy just outside our doorstep in the bay. And with a heavy wind, it could be heavy in the harbor here. But right now it's still heavy enough that people will get sick if they eat the shellfish. So we had to have a closure.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about that. So if we visit, like, let's say Cape Cod or Nantucket, are we able to order shellfish off the menu?

KOCH: Well a lot of the local restaurants and seafood markets are now importing other shellfish from other areas. Like a lot of people are buying oysters from Canada right now so they can have oysters on the menu.

But a lot of the restaurants and local markets figure they're going to serve the locals are not going to serve anything because the people around here get used to -- you know we have one of the best oysters in the world. And they get used to a certain flavor out of this oyster, and if they can't get it, it's, you know, kind of disappointing.

COSTELLO: How is this affecting the economy up there, because it's coming on to the height of tourism season? KOCH: Yes, well that's the worst part is not only, obviously, the fishermen are affected. They're the first line that are affected because they can't work. And then it goes right through the wholesalers that buy the stuff from the fishermen and sell it to the restaurants. Then it's the restaurants who can't get the stuff on their menus.

And you know the ripple effect, it's hard to really say, because I mean it goes down to the guy that sells gas to the fishermen for their boats, the guy who sells the gear. And now the fishermen are just sitting idle and everybody is affected by it.

MYERS: If you eat some of this with the Red Tide in it, are you going to get sick?

KOCH: Yes. The concentrations, like I said, in Wellfleet are not huge. And you might be able to eat a few without any problem, but the state won't take any chances. However, there are parts of the cape right now where it's so heavy that you know one clam could do some serious damage.

COSTELLO: Andy Koch, Shellfish Constable, joining us live this morning. Thank you so much.

MYERS: And it will clear up, Carol. And when the water clears, the shellfish can clear themselves. So they can flush all of that out. It's jut going to take some time for that Red Tide to go away.

COSTELLO: And I was looking forward to going to Cape Cod and Nantucket this summer. I'll still go. I will still go.

MYERS: Just get some lobster.

COSTELLO: Yes.

Let's get to our e-mail segment right now, because we're getting a lot of responses from our viewers. We're asking this question, under the hood: do you buy American or import? You know with all the problems with General Motors laying off 25,000 people, car sales are down, at least for American cars. But cars made in foreign lands, or cars made by foreign companies based here in the United States, they're selling.

MYERS: Maryanne (ph) from Tampa, American, American, American. I wonder what it's going to take for these people to wake up. Don't they watch Lou Dobbs? Everybody is complaining about outsourcing. She can't get into Wal-Mart parking lots sometimes. If we all get stuck together once in a while, we all stick together and buy American, this place will be in better shape.

COSTELLO: This is from Pat (ph) from Birmingham, New York. She says I bought three new cars in the past 18 years, one American made and two imports. My experience has been the imports are better in many ways, warranty, price, gas mileage, style and extras. However, I will say my imports were made here in America, as many are these days.

I wish we...

MYERS: And Joy (ph)...

COSTELLO: Go ahead.

MYERS: I got from Joy in L.A., I love the idea of buying American. I've given numerous American cars the test drive. But when it comes down to the safety for my family, gas mileage and price, I must buy foreign. I wish American cars were more competitive to these standards, but I can't put my family in one of their cars until they meet up with the foreign competitors.

COSTELLO: Interesting comments this morning, thank you.

MYERS: Wow!

COSTELLO: We're going to take a short break. We'll be back with much more on DAYBREAK.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: Sometimes there's just no accounting for taste. Whether or not you're a fan of that "Crazy Frog" song that's sweeping through Europe, you cannot argue with its success or the increasing importance of the ringtone revenue.

CNN's Chris Burns has more for you.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hitching a ride from an old disco tune, "Crazy Frog" has ballooned to stardom. The German Internet services company, Jamba, found it on the Internet and thought ka-ching.

(on camera): They turned him into a ringtone that's been downloaded by fans, estimated in the millions, for at least 45 cents a pop. Created as a joke by a couple of Swedish computer experts.

They must be kicking themselves now because they're probably not making what you're making.

MARKUS BERGER-DE-LEON, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, JAMBA: I think they are making a lot of it, so they're not kicking themselves.

BURNS (voice-over): Just how much? One report says Jamba raked in more than $18 million with the loony toad. Last year alone, Jamba pulled in 10 times that much in revenue for its U.S. parent company VeriSign.

Jamba's chief operating officer won't talk "Crazy Frog's" numbers, but he says after a 20 percent tax bite and about 30 percent to Internet operators, Jamba gets around 50 percent to divide up with the creators of the ringtone and video.

It's been plugged to death with TV ads. Jamba says that's vital. BERGER-DE-LEON: These characters and tones have a very short life span. You know we're looking at something like four or six weeks.

BURNS: Same thing for other successful Jamba ringtones, like Squeaky the Chick.

Among Jamba's nearly 500 employees are computer wizards cranking out new tones and characters. Nick O'Caugh (ph), a German-born American, has 128 instruments in his computer to sharpen up tracks sent by musicians.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you move the tone up and down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move it up and down now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.

BURNS: Meanwhile, Jamba animators toil away. Here's how Nessie was hatched. And here's the final product.

No guarantee it will knock a band, like Coldplay, out of number one, as "Crazy Frog" did. But Jamba says it's all part of a trend and reckons even some established artists are making more money from ringtones than CD sales.

(on camera): Isn't that depressing?

BERGER-DE-LEON: No, what is depressing about it? I think the point is...

BURNS: Because it's not the whole song, it's just a ringtone.

BERGER-DE-LEON: No. Well, I mean, if you look at the quality of ringtones today, people can download 30 seconds part of a song or a minute or the full track.

BURNS (voice-over): Could the cell phone kill the CD thanks in part to a crazy amphibian? Stay tuned.

Chris Burns, CNN, Berlin.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COSTELLO: You're going to have that in your head all day long, aren't you?

The next hour of DAYBREAK starts right now.

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Aired June 8, 2005 - 05:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you, thank you for waking up with us. Welcome to the second half-hour of DAYBREAK.
Coming up in the next 30 minutes, researchers have found some skeletons in America's closet and they're trying to bone up on one in particular.

And do you love shellfish? We have some bad tidings that could make you a bit crabby.

But first, "Now in the News."

We are following a developing terror probe in northern California. The FBI has arrested four men in Lodi, two local Muslim leaders, along with a father and son. Reports say agents are looking into possible al Qaeda links. Officials will release more details this morning.

In Aruba, two men accused in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway appear in court today. Prosecutors will not confirm it, but the men's lawyer tells CNN they're accused of homicide. The Alabama teen disappeared nine days ago while on a high school graduation trip.

It's billed as the world's biggest permanent indoor sculpture. There it is. And it opens to the public today at famed Guggenheim Museum. Called "The Matter of Time." The steelwork is nearly one- and-a-half football fields in length. It weighs 1,200 tons. American artist Richard Serra created this sculpture.

To the Forecast Center and -- Chad.

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Good morning -- Carol.

COSTELLO: I'd love to see that.

MYERS: It would be kind of a monstrous looking thing. Like walking around an entire city in there. It's all round.

Good morning.

(WEATHER REPORT)

Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad. In the fight for Iraq, three U.S. soldiers have been killed in two insurgent attacks. That comes as U.S. and Iraqi troops try to root out insurgents in one town on the Iraqi-Syrian border. So far, 28 suspected insurgents have been detained.

Jane Arraf is with the troops.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE ARRAF, CNN BAGHDAD BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): This is modern warfare in an ancient city. U.S. attack helicopters overhead. Tanks in the streets. The danger is insurgents lying in wait in the alleys where these vehicles can't go.

With the buildup of U.S. forces along the Syrian border, this was a major show of force by the American and Iraqi army in Tal Afar. As they moved into town, gunfire flew. An American officer working with Iraqi soldiers was killed. Three suspected insurgents also died.

The Siraiah (ph) neighborhood is believed to be a stronghold of insurgents. On the walls of one of the houses was scrawled "long live the Mujahideen."

Some of the raids focused on specific targets; others were looking for anything suspicious.

(on camera): This is one of a series of houses on this block that U.S. and Iraqi forces have gone through to see if there were insurgents here. They've blown open the doors and gone through the entire house, but they haven't found anyone here or anything in it.

(voice-over): This Iraqi army lieutenant says the insurgents here have fled, but he promises we'll find them.

In a nearby house, Iraqi soldiers find what appears to be a manual for explosives and landmines. "These tracts are further proof these are terrorists," this soldier says, but he won't say how.

They round up weapons, including rocket-propelled grenades and warheads found in a cemetery. They detain at least 28 suspected insurgents, all Iraqi, and most of them on their wanted list for launching or organizing attacks.

The U.S. and Iraqi army commanders try to win over the few civilians they see. This one is an assistant school principal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell him that the Iraqi army and coalition forces are here to rid his neighborhood of terrorists.

ARRAF: The man says he hasn't seen any terrorists.

Iraqi General Mohsen Dosek (ph) tells him there are people in the neighborhood helping the insurgents. He says the neighborhood has to help the Iraqi army fight them.

At the same time, the army is trying to separate friend from foe. Jane Arraf, CNN, Tal Afar, Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COSTELLO: A former president says shut it down. Jimmy Carter says reports of abuse at Guantanamo Bay are a blow to America's reputation, and he says the prison for terror suspects should be closed. He spoke after a two-day human rights conference in Atlanta.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JIMMY CARTER, FMR. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think at this point it would not be possible, as I said in my remarks, to close down Guantanamo immediately. They would have to be phased out. Over a period of time there have been a lot of people there. Now there are about 520 people at Guantanamo and I think that all of those should be given a trial.

As a matter of fact, one thing that concerns me is the Secretary of Defense has publicly announced that if these people are tried and found innocent, they will not be released. This is not the way to treat people.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Still, Carter says Amnesty International should not have called Guantanamo "the gulag of our time." He says it's not like a Soviet prison camp.

Howard Dean is at it again. Republicans say Howard Dean has been slinging some serious mud their way and the Democratic Party chairman is sure getting his hands dirty. In a Washington speech last week, you might recall, Dean said many Republicans had never made an honest living in their lives. This week in San Francisco, he went even farther.

Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HOWARD DEAN, DEMOCRATIC PARTY CHAIRMAN: The Republicans are not very friendly to different kinds of people. They're a pretty monolithic party. They pretty much, they all behave the same and they all look the same and they all -- you know it's pretty much a white Christian party.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Dean is defending his remarks. He tells CNN he doesn't hate Republicans, he just hates what their party is doing.

Republican Congresswoman Katherine Harris wants a Senate seat. She's the former Florida elections chief who was at the center of that drawn-out presidential recount in 2000. Harris plans to challenge incumbent Democratic Senator Bill Nelson next year. She's now serving her second term in the House. Still to come on DAYBREAK, historians thought they had the story behind Jamestown figured out, but a new discovery calls all of that into question.

Later, shellfish lovers be ware, a Red Tide in the northeast is putting a crimp on the catch of the day.

But first, here's a look at what else is making news this Wednesday.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

COSTELLO: Just about every American kid knows the story of Jamestown, the first permanent English settlement in what would become the United States. Now archeologists are trying to learn if a skeleton unearthed during a dig there is one of Jamestown's 1607 founders. To do that, they have traveled to England, and that's where we take you this morning.

William Kelso is the Director of Archeology for the Preservation of Virginia Antiquities.

Good morning -- Bill.

WILLIAM KELSO, ASSN./VIRGINIA ANTIQUITIES: Good morning -- Carol.

COSTELLO: We all know the story of Captain John Smith. He's the guy we usually associate with leading the expedition to Jamestown. But who is Captain Bartholomew Gosnold?

KELSO: Captain Bartholomew Gosnold was the prime moving energy behind putting together the expedition that came to the shores and established Jamestown.

COSTELLO: And Captain Smith is usually credited with that, and he was a very boastful and proud guy. So why have we forgotten all about this Gosnold character?

KELSO: Well, unfortunately, Bartholomew Gosnold died very quickly after he landed at Jamestown. He didn't last beyond August of 1607. So, therefore, he could never really write about his experiences.

COSTELLO: And so archeologists unearthed his skeleton at Jamestown. Were there any clues along with that skeleton? And we're looking at pictures of Jamestown now.

KELSO: We'll we've unearthed a burial of a captain. The reason we know it's a captain is that this person was buried with a ceremonial spear or a staff. Then, so we know from documents that Captain Bartholomew Gosnold was buried ceremoniously. And so we think that's who he is, but we're now doing DNA studies to try and pin that down more exactly.

COSTELLO: And just refresh us, how difficult was it for him to organize this expedition to go from England to what would become the United States?

KELSO: Well, first of all, he had to get funding. You know that's usually a reason or a prime reason for an expedition. And then he had to put together the people that would be experienced enough to pull it off. And all this took years of planning.

COSTELLO: So you're in England because his sister is buried there and you want to pull a DNA sample to try to prove who this skeleton was. But it's really not as simple as that, is it?

KELSO: No, it isn't. The DNA that skeletons carry is a type that you can only get and match from a female relative. And that's almost impossible to find in a living relative. And so we have, fortunately, been able to get permission to obtain DNA samples from burials here in England of his sister and possibly from his niece. One is at Shelly Church (ph); the other is at Stowmarket near Ipswich.

COSTELLO: And what would you like Americans to learn from all of your endeavors?

KELSO: Well, I think one thing, Jamestown is fairly overlooked in history. And this project, this archeological project that we've been carrying out, I think, is bringing that to the forefront. Plus the fact just bringing up Bartholomew Gosnold's name will, I think, re-help refocus history and tell us really who were the prime movers behind that settlement.

COSTELLO: Truly amazing people.

Thank you very much, William Kelso, the Director of Archeology for the Preservation of Virginia Antiquities, joining DAYBREAK this morning.

KELSO: Thanks.

COSTELLO: Your news, money, weather and sports. It's 5:45 Eastern. Here's what's all new this morning.

The FBI might reveal more today about an ongoing terror probe in northern California. Agents made four arrests as they look into possible al Qaeda links. The men arrested are two local Muslim leaders, along with a father and son.

A court appearance is set in Aruba today for two men suspected in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Their lawyer tells CNN the two were accused of homicide. The Alabama teenager vanished in Aruba nine days ago.

In money news, two more airlines are saying that bankruptcy could be coming. Delta and Northwest airlines told Congress that pension deadlines could lead to dire financial futures. The government has already been forced to take over pension plans from United and US Airways.

In culture, legendary actress Anne Bankroft has died of cancer at the age of 73. The Academy Award winner is best known for her betrayal of Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate."

In sports, the LPGA is going to a playoff system. Starting next year, women golfers will compete for a place in a 32-player playoff field. It is the first such playoff format in professional tournament golf. The winner is assured of a $1 million payday -- Chad.

MYERS: And good morning, Carol.

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COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad.

That's a look at the latest headlines for you this morning.

Still to come on DAYBREAK, a nasty phenomenon is putting a crimp on the availability of shellfish.

And a reminder, our e-mail "Question of the Morning," under the hood: do you buy American or import? We're talking cars this morning. Send us your thoughts at DAYBREAK@CNN.com.

We'll be right back.

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COSTELLO: Shellfish lovers are having to suck it up in Massachusetts. Cape Cod Bay is closed to shellfishing because of an outbreak of Red Tide, which is a toxic algae. And if you've ever been on a beach during a breakout of Red Tide, you will know it. Makes it hard to breathe. It burns your eyes. That sort of thing.

Joining us to talk about the Red Tide outbreak is Andy Koch, the Shellfish Constable in Wellfleet, Massachusetts.

Welcome -- Andy.

ANDY KOCH, SHELLFISH CONSTABLE: Thank you.

COSTELLO: Hey, before we get to the interview, I want to check in with Chad, because he has a map of the area affected by this Red Tide.

MYERS: Well, yes, I guess the big question, Andy, is where is it affected and where should people not be eating this shellfish?

I've always -- I've lived in the northeast for a long time. We always hear about the "R" months, you know don't eat fish -- don't eat shellfish unless it's not in the "R" month. That's no longer the case, though. We're taking shellfish out of the bays now every year, every month for that matter.

But all this area, all the way from Cape Cod right through Provincetown, the entire area here, I guess, affected by this Red Tide now. All the way down, you're saying, to Martha's Vineyard?

KOCH: Yes, correct. That's the latest closure was just two days ago in Martha's Vineyard. It started in New Hampshire. Actually, there's a bloom that happens every spring up off Maine.

MYERS: Of course, right.

KOCH: And what happened was the large northeast winds we had and the heavy rain pushed it all down into the bay.

MYERS: Is that right?

KOCH: And the chilly temperatures we've had and conditions were just right for this thing to bloom.

COSTELLO: Tell us...

KOCH: And now it's moved all the way down to Martha's Vineyard.

COSTELLO: Tell us what it's like, is it hard to breathe all along there?

KOCH: No, it's quite different from the type you get down South. As a matter of fact, I go down to Florida on the west coast every year with my family in the middle of February, and there are days when the Red Tide is in down there where you're choking and gasping and you can't even hang out on the beach.

But this is a totally different type of Red Tide. It's a different algae, because the toxins...

COSTELLO: So how can you tell it's there -- Andy?

KOCH: Well you can see it when it's real heavy. I mean the ocean actually turns red when it's real concentrated. And a lot of the biologists, you know they can see it from the air out in the bay. And although the concentrations aren't real, real heavy here in Wellfleet, it's real heavy just outside our doorstep in the bay. And with a heavy wind, it could be heavy in the harbor here. But right now it's still heavy enough that people will get sick if they eat the shellfish. So we had to have a closure.

COSTELLO: OK, let's talk about that. So if we visit, like, let's say Cape Cod or Nantucket, are we able to order shellfish off the menu?

KOCH: Well a lot of the local restaurants and seafood markets are now importing other shellfish from other areas. Like a lot of people are buying oysters from Canada right now so they can have oysters on the menu.

But a lot of the restaurants and local markets figure they're going to serve the locals are not going to serve anything because the people around here get used to -- you know we have one of the best oysters in the world. And they get used to a certain flavor out of this oyster, and if they can't get it, it's, you know, kind of disappointing.

COSTELLO: How is this affecting the economy up there, because it's coming on to the height of tourism season? KOCH: Yes, well that's the worst part is not only, obviously, the fishermen are affected. They're the first line that are affected because they can't work. And then it goes right through the wholesalers that buy the stuff from the fishermen and sell it to the restaurants. Then it's the restaurants who can't get the stuff on their menus.

And you know the ripple effect, it's hard to really say, because I mean it goes down to the guy that sells gas to the fishermen for their boats, the guy who sells the gear. And now the fishermen are just sitting idle and everybody is affected by it.

MYERS: If you eat some of this with the Red Tide in it, are you going to get sick?

KOCH: Yes. The concentrations, like I said, in Wellfleet are not huge. And you might be able to eat a few without any problem, but the state won't take any chances. However, there are parts of the cape right now where it's so heavy that you know one clam could do some serious damage.

COSTELLO: Andy Koch, Shellfish Constable, joining us live this morning. Thank you so much.

MYERS: And it will clear up, Carol. And when the water clears, the shellfish can clear themselves. So they can flush all of that out. It's jut going to take some time for that Red Tide to go away.

COSTELLO: And I was looking forward to going to Cape Cod and Nantucket this summer. I'll still go. I will still go.

MYERS: Just get some lobster.

COSTELLO: Yes.

Let's get to our e-mail segment right now, because we're getting a lot of responses from our viewers. We're asking this question, under the hood: do you buy American or import? You know with all the problems with General Motors laying off 25,000 people, car sales are down, at least for American cars. But cars made in foreign lands, or cars made by foreign companies based here in the United States, they're selling.

MYERS: Maryanne (ph) from Tampa, American, American, American. I wonder what it's going to take for these people to wake up. Don't they watch Lou Dobbs? Everybody is complaining about outsourcing. She can't get into Wal-Mart parking lots sometimes. If we all get stuck together once in a while, we all stick together and buy American, this place will be in better shape.

COSTELLO: This is from Pat (ph) from Birmingham, New York. She says I bought three new cars in the past 18 years, one American made and two imports. My experience has been the imports are better in many ways, warranty, price, gas mileage, style and extras. However, I will say my imports were made here in America, as many are these days.

I wish we...

MYERS: And Joy (ph)...

COSTELLO: Go ahead.

MYERS: I got from Joy in L.A., I love the idea of buying American. I've given numerous American cars the test drive. But when it comes down to the safety for my family, gas mileage and price, I must buy foreign. I wish American cars were more competitive to these standards, but I can't put my family in one of their cars until they meet up with the foreign competitors.

COSTELLO: Interesting comments this morning, thank you.

MYERS: Wow!

COSTELLO: We're going to take a short break. We'll be back with much more on DAYBREAK.

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COSTELLO: Sometimes there's just no accounting for taste. Whether or not you're a fan of that "Crazy Frog" song that's sweeping through Europe, you cannot argue with its success or the increasing importance of the ringtone revenue.

CNN's Chris Burns has more for you.

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CHRIS BURNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hitching a ride from an old disco tune, "Crazy Frog" has ballooned to stardom. The German Internet services company, Jamba, found it on the Internet and thought ka-ching.

(on camera): They turned him into a ringtone that's been downloaded by fans, estimated in the millions, for at least 45 cents a pop. Created as a joke by a couple of Swedish computer experts.

They must be kicking themselves now because they're probably not making what you're making.

MARKUS BERGER-DE-LEON, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, JAMBA: I think they are making a lot of it, so they're not kicking themselves.

BURNS (voice-over): Just how much? One report says Jamba raked in more than $18 million with the loony toad. Last year alone, Jamba pulled in 10 times that much in revenue for its U.S. parent company VeriSign.

Jamba's chief operating officer won't talk "Crazy Frog's" numbers, but he says after a 20 percent tax bite and about 30 percent to Internet operators, Jamba gets around 50 percent to divide up with the creators of the ringtone and video.

It's been plugged to death with TV ads. Jamba says that's vital. BERGER-DE-LEON: These characters and tones have a very short life span. You know we're looking at something like four or six weeks.

BURNS: Same thing for other successful Jamba ringtones, like Squeaky the Chick.

Among Jamba's nearly 500 employees are computer wizards cranking out new tones and characters. Nick O'Caugh (ph), a German-born American, has 128 instruments in his computer to sharpen up tracks sent by musicians.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you move the tone up and down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move it up and down now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.

BURNS: Meanwhile, Jamba animators toil away. Here's how Nessie was hatched. And here's the final product.

No guarantee it will knock a band, like Coldplay, out of number one, as "Crazy Frog" did. But Jamba says it's all part of a trend and reckons even some established artists are making more money from ringtones than CD sales.

(on camera): Isn't that depressing?

BERGER-DE-LEON: No, what is depressing about it? I think the point is...

BURNS: Because it's not the whole song, it's just a ringtone.

BERGER-DE-LEON: No. Well, I mean, if you look at the quality of ringtones today, people can download 30 seconds part of a song or a minute or the full track.

BURNS (voice-over): Could the cell phone kill the CD thanks in part to a crazy amphibian? Stay tuned.

Chris Burns, CNN, Berlin.

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COSTELLO: You're going to have that in your head all day long, aren't you?

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