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Interview with Natalee Holloways Stepfather George Twitty; Leigh Ann Hester Awarded Silver Star, First In 60 Years For Woman; Governor Schwarzenegger To Call Special Election For Nov. 6

Aired June 19, 2005 - 18:00   ET

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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: A Father's Day jolt for California. We are going to have a live update on California's shaky ground.
And this U.S. general is using a simple stroll to make a bold statement deep in Osama bin Laden's backyard. It is a story you will only see on CNN.

And a new development from Aruba where the police question the politically powerful father one suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

It is June 19 and you are watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.

Good evening from the CNN Center in Atlanta. I'm Carol Lin. We're going to get to our top story in just a moment, but these are the stories making news right now.

A sign of progress in the Middle East: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says Israel and the Palestinians have agreed to demolish a disputed Jewish settlement in Gaza. Rice spoke in Jerusalem after meeting with Israeli and Palestinian leaders. She is now in Jordan.

And it isn't too early for thoughts about the 2008 presidential election. Democratic senator Joseph Biden of Delaware has been expressing interest for months. And when asked about it today, Biden said, quote, "my intention now is seek the nomination." That makes it official.

Republican senator John McCain of Arizona wasn't quite as obvious about his plans today, saying he will hold off on making a decision for a couple of years.

Japan has been struck by a strong earthquake. It hit east of Tokyo with a magnitude of 5.7. There are no reports of damage or injuries. In the past week, there has a string of quakes on both sides of the Pacific.

Speaking of shaking homes, fraying nerves and disrupting lives, we begin this hour with a rash of seismic activity. The latest jolt to California, a 5.0 magnitude quake struck this morning. It is the 5th in a series of substantial quakes causing commotion for California residents. Our Keith Oppenheim is in Los Angeles with more details.

Keith, did you feel the shaking? KEITH OPPENHEIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I did not. It was far off the coast, but if you live in Los Angeles or anywhere in California where earthquakes are a part of life, what you want to know is what does all this seismic activity mean?

I spoke to a couple of experts, one from the United States Geological survey in Colorado as well as another one here in Los Angeles. And they agreed that three out of the five earthquakes that we're talking about in the region in the last week are related. In other words, the 5.0 that we're talking about today as well as a 6.7 richer scale earthquake from last Thursday, that both of those are aftershocks of a larger 7.2 earthquake from last Tuesday. Here's Anthony Guarino, a seismologist from Cal Tech.

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ANTHONY GUARINO, CAL TECH: It's not uncommon to have aftershocks of this magnitude. We would express, probably, a couple magnitude 5's after a magnitude 7.2 event that we've had. So far, we've had a magnitude 6.7 and now this magnitude 5 with several magnitude 4s and a couple magnitude 3s.

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OPPENHEIM: What that translates to is that aftershocks are very common after an earthquake like the 7.2 last Tuesday. And not only that, there have been a bunch of smaller aftershocks that no one's really been talking about so much on the news.

The bottom line is that the earthquake activity in the region is such that people will experience this typically after a big one, but doesn't really make a difference in the long run. And according to the experts, what people should be taking significant preparations all the time, because a big one is coming.

The thing is, that just because it's been a busy week, Carol, doesn't mean that a big one is coming any time soon. The timing is unknown. And in fact, they add that it's really not unusual to see a series of earthquakes or series of shakers after there's been a fairly dormant activity. And California for the past six years, it's been pretty quiet. So, this is just a recent change.

LIN: Right. Let's hope it's just the fault lines releasing some steam, Keith and maybe not the big one as a result. The big one may not hit as quickly. We'll keep our fingers crossed. Thanks very much.

You know, the number of fault lines that run through California are tremendous. Geologists say the cluster of quakes, as Keith was saying, is not necessarily an ominous prelude to the big one, but they do admit when it hits, it will be like nothing we have ever seen. Take a look at what Peter Viles found out.

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PETER VILES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In places it's beautiful and others it's a scar in the desert: the San Andreas Fault, California's ticking time bomb.

(on camera): So we are now in the fault, right?

DR. SALLY MCGILL, CAL STATE SAN BERNARDINO: Yes. We're walking right along the fault.

VILES (voice-over): Make no mistake, this portion of the fault is overdue for a big one, we're talking a magnitude 7.5 or bigger earthquake.

MCGILL: This is part of the San Andreas Fault on average produces earthquakes every 100 to 150 years. The most recent one was in 1812, here. So we've gone almost 200 years without an earthquake. So we've gone beyond the average interval between earthquakes. So in that sense, yes, we are overdue.

VILES: When the big one comes it won't be like the movies. There won't be any gaping hole.

(on camera): We wouldn't be swallowed up or anything?

MCGILL: Probably not.

VILES (voice-over): But there will be a sudden shift along the fault.

(on camera): So this wall moves that way.

MCGILL: Uh-huh.

VILES: And this one goes that way.

MCGILL: That's right.

VILES: Real fast?

MCGILL: In any single point on the fault that slippage would happen in a matter of one or two seconds.

VILES (voice-over): And if it's the big one, the damage will extend up and down the fault and for miles and miles on either side of it. It will be bigger than Loma Prieta in '85, bigger than Northridge in '94, bigger than Kobe in '95. None of those was above 7.0.

ROSS STEIN, USGS GEOPHYSICIST: This earthquake in Southern California we think has about a 35 percent likelihood in the next 30 years. OK? That's a one in three shot.

VILES: There's also a chance the big one won't be along the San Andreas fault. There's another fault under downtown L.A. Will we see the big one coming? No one knows. Sometimes there are foreshocks, but there are no geological clues offered here.

MCGILL: Yesterday's earthquake in Yucaipa was very close to the San Andreas Fault, could potentially be a foreshock, might not be a fore -- most likely it's not a foreshock, but there is a small chance that it will be.

VILES: A small chance the big one is coming soon, but sooner or later, it is coming.

(on camera): And how long has the fault been here?

MCGILL: Oh, probably about four or five million years.

VILES (voice-over): Peter Viles for CNN, along the San Andreas Fault.

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LIN: And now to Iraq where the U.S. death toll is growing again. We found out today that a U.S. marine has been killed in Operation Spear. It happened Saturday during a firefight in a lawless area near the Syrian border.

This is exclusive video of the fighting in Operation Spear today. Airstrikes and tank shelling destroyed dozens of buildings in the town of Karabila. U.S. and Iraqi troops are hunting for foreign fighters.

Meanwhile, insurgents continue the deadly come pain in the Iraqi capital. At least 23 people were killed today when a suicide bomber walked into a popular lunch cafe in Baghdad and blew himself up. The dead include seven policemen. 36 people were wounded.

U.S. commanders say they expect the violence to rise in another U.S. war zone: Afghanistan. But the man in charge of coalition forces in the region has a unique perspective on how to win the war on terror. CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr met up with him in Gardez, Afghanistan. And it is a story you will only see on CNN.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is no ordinary stroll.

LT. GEN. KARL EIKENBERRY, U.S. ARMY: Governor's view about security as we approach the election, and it was, I think, pretty consistent with what we've been talking about.

STARR: Lieutenant General Carl Eikenberry is walk the streets of Cardez with a provincial governor deep in Eastern Afghanistan. Before 9/11, this was a strong hold of Osama bin Laden. The people here are still deeply religious.

Eikenberry has no armored vest, no helmet, his personal security is assured by the local Afghans. He has been the senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan for just six weeks. Violence is, again, on the rise. And Eikenberry has decided to walk the streets of every major town. It is something no other U.S. general here has ever done.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And here is the bread.

STARR: Our first stop, a bread maker following years of tradition. To the delight of workers, Eikenberry tries his hand. The general buys some bread.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Have some bread, please.

STARR: We are all happy to sample.

Eikenberry and the governor talk about the September parliamentary elections. These local elections are seen as more important than last year's presidential contest.

EIKENBERRY: Barbara, you need to hear this. He said -- I asked him about this election. And he said the people are more excited, and I asked why? said he it's going to be more exciting because there's more competition, that's why you need to come back here.

STARR: The next group of shopkeepers smile when they learn the identified the tall man in the American military uniform. There are hand shakes all around. The men tell Eikenberry their cement business is good.

Then we spot a campaign poster.

EIKENBERRY: One candidate with two pictures. What -- OK, what does this say?

STARR: This candidate has the symbol of an elephant. Most Afghans can not read. If they want to vote for this man, they will look for an elephant picture on the ballot.

A town elder pays his respects to the governor. But we are about to end this walk on an unexpected note. The general is serenaded. The little boys do not really know who this big man is, but the smiles and laughter are universal. One gentle moment for a senior U.S. commander in the global war on terror.

Barbara Starr, CNN, Afghanistan.

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LIN: Well, turning now to Aruba and new developments in the search for Natalee Holloway. Police are questioning the father of one of the suspects for a second straight day. So let's go to CNN's Karl Penhaul live in Palm Beach, Aruba.

Karl, this man is not just any man, he is a justice official in Aruba and a father of one of those suspects.

KARL PENHAUL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Indeed, Carol. In fact, he is an island judge. He is the -- Paul Van Der Soot. He's the father of 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot.

Joran Van Der Sloot was picked up with two other of his friends, Deepak and Satish Kalpoe about ten days ago now. And they're being held accused of some link to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Now, police haven't told us what line of inquiry they're pursuing with Joran Van der Sloot's father, Paul, but they do say that he's questioned at the stage as a witness and not as a suspect. The implication there being that he may have seen or heard something that his son had been talking about or even done and that is what is warranting this questioning.

It is, as you mentioned, the second straight day that Paul Van Der Sloot, an Aruban judge, has been questioned. But this afternoon, after questioning, he left the police station in downtown Oranjestad with the wife Anita and they headed home. So no indication there that he's being held for any reason.

Now, this questioning came the day after Natalee Holloway's parents and other relatives held a vigil at a church in Aruba. This is coming up to now three weeks since Natalee disappeared. And what Beth Twitty -- that's Natalee's mother -- has told us is that in those three weeks she's been through a mixture of emotions.

And right now, from a comment we can detect that anxiety also shifting into a great degree of anger, anger directed towards the three young suspects who were last seen in Natalee's company on early morning of may 30th. She believes they're telling lies to police and weaving a web of lies and this is stopping clues coming out as to the exact whereabouts of Natalee -- Carol.

LIN: Karl, can you give us a sense of to what extent authorities there can go to try to extract information from any of these suspects?

PENHAUL: It's a little difficult because all this is going on behind closed doors and the justice authorities on this island are playing cards very close to their chest. But we know is this: that the boys, -- the three young suspects, one age 17, that Joran Van Der Sloot, and the two brothers, age 18 and 21, have been under going extensive interrogation for the last ten days or so. And we understand that that interrogation may last at times up to 12 hours.

There's also a fourth suspect. He was arrested in the early hours of Friday. We don't know exactly what tack is being pursued with him or how he may fit in.

What we also know is all suspects kept in different police stations. One of them kept in the island's prison. And that's to make sure that they don't meet in the jail cells and try to swap stories and confirm one another and back one another up. So that will enable the police to carry out the interrogations more effective -- Carol.

LIN: Karl Penhaul, live in Aruba, thank you very much.

Coming up, I'm going to be talking with Natalee Holloway's stepfather about these new developments.

Also ahead, healing from hate. A Mississippi town comes together to pay respects to the victims of an ugly past in hopes of a brighter future.

And you'll meet the sergeant whose star is rising thanks to an achievement separating her from every other military woman of the past 60 years.

And which senator could be in the political hot water, well, for remarks about the Guantanamo Bay prison. See if his comparison makes you mad.

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LIN: In Mississippi, jurors in a high-profile murder trial have Father's Day off, but testimony in the case resumes tomorrow. Edgar Ray Killen is charged with killing three civil rights workers 41 years ago. The prosecution has rested. The defense is expected to call one more witness. The case still haunts Philadelphia, Mississippi.

Today, the town is holding a memorial service for the victims. CNN's Katherine Calloway is there. Katherine, what has been the impact of this trial on that town, so far?

KATHERINE CALLOWAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: As you can imagine, Carol, it's been quite an emotional week for the members of this church here at Mount Zion. And today, it was more of a celebration of the lives of Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner and James Chaney than a memorial service.

Of course, this church -- Mount Zion church behind me here -- was at the center of a chain of events that led to their murders. And this afternoon, this church -- this very small church -- was overflowing with politicians, religious leaders, church members and Michael Schwerner's wife, Rita and Andrew Goodman's sister Barbara were here. They lit candles in memory of their loved ones.

And speakers today repeatedly spoke about the legacy that the three civil rights workers left behind.

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LEROY CLEMONS, NAACP: I thank Michael Schwerner, James Chaney and Andy Goodman for the sacrifices that they made, because today I can say that I am a free man and that those sacrifices will not go in vain as long as there's breath in my body.

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CALLOWAY: Now, of course, the three young men were investigating the torching of this church, Mount Zion Church, and the beating of its members by the Ku Klux Klan when they were dragged from the car and they were shot. And we are seeing the first murder charge in this case that began four decades ago being tried as you said right now, this week. Edgar Ray Killen charged in their deaths. That trial will continue tomorrow morning. Carol, an emotional day. As I said before, all of the members here of this church and all of those that packed this church not too long ago will be watching that trial very closely tomorrow.

LIN: You bet. As will you. Thank you very much. Katherine Calloway reporting live. And we're going to take you to the front lines next on CNN LIVE SUNDAY. That is where one sergeant's bravery won her an honor no woman has received since World War II.

And you'll hear from a man just back from the front lines not as a soldier, but as a hostage.

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LIN: Every week we like to bring you the more personal stories from the front lines. Today, the story of Sergeant Leigh Ann Hester. And it is a remarkable tale of a woman under fire in Iraq. For her courage, this female MP from Kentucky received the Army's silver star.

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LIN (voice-over): Sergeant Leigh Ann Hester and her fellow Kentucky guardsman spent much of their time protecting convoys. It's a dangerous job, ambushes and explosions plague Iraq's road network. On March 20, Sergeant Hester was leading her squad down a road outside of Baghdad.

SGT. LEIGH ANN HESTER, KENTUCKY NATIONAL GUARD: We were shadowing a convoy that had become ambushed. We moved to contact, put ourselves between the insurgents and that convoy.

LIN: A violent battle raged as they defended the 30-truck convoy.

HESTER: You didn't have time to think to be scared or what to think. You just had to get the job done. You had people firing upon you. And it was basically you or them.

LIN: The operation was a success.

HESTER: We did a great job that day. And I believe we killed 27 that day and injured 8 insurgents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Awarded the silver star to Sergeant Leigh Hester, United States Army.

LIN: For her bravery and quick thinking, the Army presented Hester and two colleagues with the silver star, making her the first woman to receive the medal since World War II. Four Army nurses were honored with the prestigious award for their role in the battle of Anvio, an Italian port in 1944.

HESTER: It's a great honor to received it. But I'm just another soldier here. It's all in a day's work. Its with a we're here to do. We're here to protect other soldiers and convoys trying to get from one place to another. But to think about what might have happened if we hadn't been there that day, the casualties on our side could have been a whole lot worse.

LIN: Sergeant Hester's award comes shortly after failed efforts by Republicans in Congress to ban women from combat. Sergeant Hester believes the actions prove women can be effective warriors.

HESTER: We are equal in the United States Army, men and women. The only thing we are not allowed in is combat of arms, infantry, field artillery, things like that. But as M.P.s, we are out there every day outside of the wire sweeping for roadside bombs and dealing with insurgents. So in my opinion, I think women do just as good a job as the men do here.

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LIN: All in a day's work. An astonishing story of bravery and leadership when it was truly needed. Our heartfelt congratulations to Sergeant Hester and her team.

All right. Checking the stories across America. Search and rescue teams in Utah looking for a missing Boy Scout. 11-year-old Brennan Hawkins was last seen Friday at a Scout camp. The area in Eastern Utah is mountainous and wooded.

Fire officials in Southern California hope to fully contain a 1800-acre brush fire today. The fire ignited yesterday in the High Desert outside of Yucca valley. As many as 300 homes were threatened by the flames. Luckily no damage or injuries reported.

In New Jersey, five members of a Pennsylvania family are recovering after getting hurt on an amusement park ride on Atlantic City's Steel Pier. They were on a Log Flume ride that went down an incline into an empty basin.

The final round of the U.S. Open turning into quite a melting pot today. New Zealand's Michael Campbell mounted a final round challenge unseating Retief Goosen. Goosen held the lead overnight. Campbell has playing consistently in the closing holes at the Pinehurst course. Those around him have been falling apart, including Tiger Woods who made -- well, who had made a run earlier at the lead today. Oh well.

Now straight ahead, an update on the latest California earthquake.

And, we're going to talk about a political earthquake that could shake up California's governor. CNN political analyst Carlos Watson has his weekly "Fresh Take."

Comparing U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay to Nazi Germany? Which U.S. senator said it. And what are the consequences to face?

Also ahead, new developments in the case of an American teen missing in Aruba. I'm going to talk live with her stepfather. You are watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.

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LIN: Welcome back. I'm Carol Lin. And here's a look at what's happening right now in the news. U.S. forces have Iraq -- have in Iraq have suffered their first casualty in the fight against insurgents called Operation Spear. CNN's Jane Arraf who was embedded -- in fact, is embedded with the troops in Karabila reported one marine killed and three others wounded in a firefight yesterday.

And passengers on board a Northwest Airlines flight from Mombai, India to Amsterdam got a glimpse today of something rarely seen by Americans: the airport in Teheran. The captain diverted there after getting an indication of a mechanical problem which turned out to be a false alarm. U.S. law forbids domestic airlines from making commercial flights into the Islamic republic.

Another moderate earthquake has shaken California. The magnitude 5.0 quake struck early this morning off the coast about 300 miles Northwest of San Francisco. There are no reports of damage. Now since last week, California has been hit by five quakes or aftershocks 4.9 or even greater.

And for the second day in a row, Aruba police questioning an island judge about the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway. Judge Paul Van Der Sloot's son is being held in connection with the case. 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot reportedly was one of the last people to see Natalee Holloway alive.

Twenty days after she vanished, no formal charges have been filed and there is still no evidence we know of that a crime is committed. That has become incredibly frustrating for Natalee Holloway's family. Jug Twitty is Natalee Holloway's stepfather and he joins me now from Aruba.

Mr. Twitty, what do you know about the questioning of this judge, Paul Van Der Sloot?

GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S STEPFATHER: I really don't know the questioning about it. I know that I saw on TV today -- my wife and I hadn't watched any of the media down here, because so much of it has been just, you know, things to get back to the United States that aren't really true. And my wife doesn't like watching it. But yesterday I told her, I said, you know, we are doing interviews and you are doing things. I'm doing things and I need to know what people are saying so that, you know -- and we needed to stay on top of what they're saying back in the States.

So, I know that I have -- you know, one of the things I saw this morning was the judge and...

LIN: Were you surprised?

TWITTY: No. You know, he's -- I've met him. I met him the night I got here. I got here, you know, 12 hours after it happened. The guys -- he's sickening to me.

LIN: The father?

TWITTY: He's a chicken. You can tell. Why is he running this morning on TV? He has nothing to hide. Why is he running to his car? He is -- he makes my stomach turn. You know, they say like father like son. Well in this case, I truly believe that's the case.

LIN: What do you think this judge knows? TWITTY: I know he knows more than he's saying. And I think the authorities here...

LIN: Do you think he -- do you think he knows where your stepdaughter is and what happened to her?

TWITTY: There's a good possibility.

LIN: Do you have any theories at this point?

TWITTY: No. Everybody's got theories here. I just know that -- that, you know, when I got here that night and I confronted the judge and I confronted the boys, that he knows more than he's saying. I have left it in the authorities' hands here. I feel confident. We're talking to the FBI -- you know, the Aruban police, the authorities here are doing everything they can. And they know he holds -- not necessarily him, but they know that the people they have in custody and -- and the judge know more than they're saying. It is a matter of, you know, bringing out the truth. And I know that...

LIN: What did the judge say to you when you confronted him?

TWITTY: I'd rather not talk about that. That's part of the investigation but -- I just -- you know...

LIN: Was it something that he said to you? Was it something that he said to you that convinced police that they should question the judge?

TWITTY: No. I haven't even talked to the police about that really. I just know he -- there were several things that took place that have turned out to be, you know, different than -- than as he stated that night. So I know that he knows more than he's saying.

LIN: Can you give us an example?

TWITTY: No. I'd rather not talk about that.

I know that everybody's doing everything they can. I know my wife feels more comfortable with it that probably that they are questioning the judge because she probably feels the same thing. I know the people in the United States, Senator Richard Shelby called my wife yesterday and you know how powerful he is. And he assured that he is frustrated with it. He wants to try to help in my way he can. And Jeff Sessions and Spencer Backus and Governor Riley, they have all called with concern.

And I feel that the United States is really starting to put some pressure on the people here to try to get an answer, because the answer -- I can't say the total answer is with all the guys there. There may be more people involved. But they definitely know more than they're saying.

LIN: More people involved. I mean, you are talking about the possibility of some elaborate scheme.

TWITTY: I don't know. I just know that these -- at least three people they have in custody know more than they're saying.

LIN: Jug Twitty, we all want to have answers soon. We're very concerned about the whereabouts of your stepdaughter. And we hope you get those answers real soon. Thank you very much.

TWITTY: OK. Thank you, Carol.

LIN: Well recently, released details about interrogation tactics used as the U.S. detention center on Guantanamo Bay have raised more than eyebrows. But one senator's reaction to that information likening guards to Nazis may have caused a bigger stir.

CNN's Elaine Quijano has that report.

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ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He's the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate. And days after he made controversial comments on the Senate floor, Dick Durbin's words are reverberating in Washington and in his home state of Illinois. It was Tuesday when Durbin spoke of an FBI agent's e-mail alleging mistreatment of one detainee at Guantanamo Bay, which he said included chaining the detainee to the floor in a fetal position.

SEN. DICK DURBIN, (D) ILLINOIS: If I read this to you and didn't tell you that it was a FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been happened by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime Pol Pot or others.

QUIJANO: The comments prompted Democrats to distance themselves and triggered Republican demands for an apology. From the White House came sharp rebuke.

SCOTT MCCLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think the senator's remarks are reprehensible. It's a real disservice to our men and women in uniform.

QUIJANO: By Friday, a written statement from Senator Durbin read, "I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood. I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings."

But the backlash continued through the weekend. Illinois's largest newspaper, which endorsed President Bush in 2004 seized on the comments. The Chicago Tribune saying, "Durbin's comparison of U.S. interrogators to governments that together killed millions of people makes him look desperate for attentions. While he's created a lot of discussion about Dick Durbin, we suspect that was the goal all along."

In Washington, Republicans repeated their assertion that the senator had gone too far.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, (R) ARIZONA: Well, I think that Senator Durbin owes not only the Senate an apology, I don't know if it's a censure would be in order, but an apology. QUIJANO: Senator Durbin's spokesman did not respond to requests for additional comment. Democrats say they're colleague has already expressed regret. And insists the real issue is the future of Guantanamo.

SEN. JOSEPH BIDEN, (D) DELAWARE: The point he was making was an accurate about we need to do something about Guantanamo, that we can't leave it sitting in the status quo of the way it is now.

QUIJANO (on camera): As for the comments there could be more backlash in the days ahead. On Tuesday, Senator Durbin attends a fund-raiser with DNC Chairman Howard Dean whose own past comments Republicans have pointed to as controversial.

Elaine Quijano, CNN, Washington.

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LIN: Well, there are political shakeups. And then there are political shakeups. Now, you heard about the five earthquakes that rocked California since last Sunday. What you don't know is, there's another shaker coming, but this one is on the political scene thanks to the Golden State's governor. Every Sunday, CNN political analyst Carlos Watson gives us a fresh take on what his sources are telling him.

Hey Carlos, what's the governor up to? Governor Schwarzenegger we're talking about.

CARLOS WATSON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, just this past week, Carol, he announced that there will be a special election November 8 in California where voters will go to the polls and decide on a couple of issues. Now, when you hear me say special election, you may think it's one or two issues, but these issues are so big, so meaty, that if you're sitting at home in Minnesota or Florida today, be careful they could affect you.

LIN: Don't make me wait.

WATSON: I won't make you wait. So, how your teachers get hired, California's going to vote on that. Whether teachers get tenure in two years or five years. How they elect members to the House of Representatives. Should it happen by the state legislature or should a panel of judges do it? Can you get prescription drugs from Canada and will a state government help you do that? Do teenagers who want to go for an abortion, do they need to get parental consent?

All of these, and how to reregulate energy, and a lot more may be on the ballot this November 8. California's got big issues with national implications.

LIN: And look at the special interest at stake. I mean, you are talking unions, pharmaceutical companies, a lot at stake. How much -- it sounds expensive. How much is this going cost to have the special election? WATSON: Carol, the number is so big, I brought out something special for today. I brought out what I call the Carol Lin score board. So, how much am I talking about? I'm talking about more money than was spent in the Democratic primaries in 2004, at least the competitive part. Look at what I'm saying here. Quarter of a billion dollars.

LIN: Wow.

WATSON: That's a lot of cash, a lot of cake, a lot of money. More, by the way, than the four major contests going on this year -- in L.A. Mayoral race, the New York City Mayoral race, the Virginia governor's race and the New Jersey governor's race. So this is a big deal. The Political sun may rise in the west this year as opposed to in the east. Could be the big story.

LIN: This could be the big story, but what happens if Governor Schwarzenegger fails in this?

WATSON: Well, let's first talk about what if he succeeds. If he succeeds, at least two things are likely to see on a national level. One, the impossible -- meaning the idea that one day Arnold, the constitution may be changed and Arnold will have a chance to run for president may become a little bit more possible, especially if he wins this, goes on to win the 2006 election in a big way and a Democrats in the White House in 2008, some Republicans may say we need our white knight on the horse. The other thing that may see a lot more special elections with initiatives.

Now, if he loses what happens? Two big things. One, you're likely to see unions be reenergized. Because a lot of the things that he's putting forth, frankly attack the interests of a number of unions. A lot of unions coming together here in California. Spending north of $100 million of their own money to fight these. And if they're able to beat back the Terminator, they'll become, if you will, the lions of the jungle.

The other interesting thing is that right now we have got two candidates who have announced to run for governor in 2006 against Arnold -- the state treasurer Phil Angelides, and the state controller Steve Wesley. But be careful. If these -- if this thing is successful, meaning that Arnold is defeated, you may see other people, including some charismatic mayors here in California, like remember the mayor of San Francisco, Gavin Newsom?

LIN: Right. He was the headliner in the whole gay marriage issue. He really breaks new ground politically.

WATSON: Young, handsome, attractive. I guarantee you people will start to mention his name if Arnold looks more and more wounded.

Or -- now here's a slightly crazier idea -- the relatively new mayor, we just talked about him last month getting elected in Los Angeles. Antonio Villairagosa, mayor of the largest city in California, former speaker of the Assembly, if this happens in November and the Democratic primary for governor's not until next June, some people may say, hey, there's enough time for him to jump in.

LIN: You're talking about "Wild Kingdom," aren't you on the political?

WATSON: I'm -- you know what, Carol, we will have two big political stories this year. Supreme Court opening, which we'll see in the next month on the East Coast. But on the West Coast, California's going to capture a lot of attention.

LIN: All right. Carlos Watson with his "Fresh Take" and a score board. Bring it back.

WATSON: The Carol Lin score board. There we go. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.

LIN: That's a lot of money. Carlos Watson, great to see you.

WATSON: Good to see you, as always.

LIN: This just in to the CNN Center, a New Zealander is the winner of the U.S. Open. Michael Cambell blitzed his way from behind today to win the golf championship at the Pinehurst Resort in North Carolina. Tiger Woods finished second, two shots behind. And with a title, Campbell takes home more than a million dollars. Not as much as being spent in the special election in California, but it is quite a Father's Day present.

Living longer, living better, can exercise actually harm you more than help you/ I like that idea, actually. In tonight's "Fountain of Youth," a look at what you should be doing to keep your body in tip top shape.

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LIN: Well in our "Fountain of Youth" segment, how fit is your frame? A reknowned orthopedic surgeon has designed a new fitness program to keep your bones and joints healthy. It's outlined in the new book "Framework." Well, earlier I spoke with the author, sports medicine specialist, Dr. Nicholas Dinubile.

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DR. NICHOLAS DINUBILE, AUTHOR: What led me to write the book "Frame Work" was that I couldn't go to the gym without two or three people coming to me with the sore shoulders, they're lower back. I kept hearing the same story over and over and I saw the same thing in my practice. And I started thinking about it. And realized that we are living longer, we're looking better, but the human body really wasn't designed to be used the way we use it, or go as long as we have gone with it. So, we need to extend the warranty on that frame.

LIN: All right. You have a self test that you talk about in your book. What is a self test?

DINUBILE: The self test is a really comprehensive inventory that looks at your vulnerabilities or your weak links. We all have them, unfortunately. And it is simple questions about life style, it's also some maneuvers I have you go through, testing your flexibility, your strength.

LIN: Give me examples. I mean, if I'm standing in front of the mirror, what am I looking for?

DINUBILE: Well, you might want to just look at your posture. That's a good thing to look at in the mirror. Just the way you carry yourself every day affects the way you strain your frame.

Other things you might not think of, I have questions about whether you snore or not, how many vegetables you eat a day, things that you would not normally think help fortify your frame and make it stronger. Your attitude even.

So it's about old injuries, your genetics, your family history, really comprehensive way to make you start thinking about your vulnerabilities.

LIN: Talk about diet in a moment. But what are the most common mistakes people make when they're exercising?

DINUBILE: Well, there's a couple themes that I the end to see. One is -- and I applaud anyone who exercises.

LIN: OK.

DINUBILE: Being sedentary is just not an option anymore. But sometimes people get into it so much that they do too much too soon. They get too enthusiastic and they break down. Or they get into a program that's maybe not ideal for their body. You have someone who's overweight, maybe has arthritis in their knees and they think they need to run to get in shape. Really, you need to be in shape to run. And running might not be the best thing with arthritic knees so they break down.

And the biggest problem I see with most exercisers is that they lack balance in the program. And by balance I mean, really learning that right mix of cardiovascular, strength, flexibility and core work. Most of us -- most of us favor one over the other. A lot of women love aerobics, a lot of guys love to pump iron. And you create imbalances through your own workout design.

LIN: So you need a little bit of both. Because you say that people can achieve the right balance and fitness with three days a week, one hour a day.

DINUBILE: That's correct. In terms of exercise.

LIN: Let me very quickly ask you about diet. I mean, what is the No. 1 thing that you think people need to eat more of?

DINUBILE: Well, I think nowadays we need to eat more carbohydrates.

LIN: Really? DINUBILE: We have the low carb kick. And if you eat the right carbohydrates -- you look at any top notch athlete, any endurance athlete, any Olympic athlete. They're not starving themselves on carbohydrates. That's their fuel. And it's a fuel for your frame.

LIN: What's a carb do you like?

DINUBILE: Carb that I like? I love cereal. I love whole grain cereals.

LIN: Are you talking about like kids' cereal? Or your talking about -- whole grains you said? So be cautious like Cheerios? That's whole oats.

DINUBILE: Cheerios is good. Total is great. It has calcium in it. It's fortified. I love -- fruits and vegetables are a great carbohydrates. But anything with a shelf life -- doughnuts, cookies -- that stuff is not good for your frame.

LIN: All right. All right. Thanks. Doctor Dinubile, great advice. By the way, chasing after my 2-year-old, does that count as exercise?

DINUBILE: Absolutely. That's tough work. That is tough work.

LIN: I have gotten so far. Thanks so much, Doctor Dinubile. And take care of your voice. And thanks for coming in for us.

DINUBILE: Thank you very much.

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LIN: News in our "World Wrap" now tonight. More than 100,000 people took to the streets in Madrid this weekend to oppose a controversial measure. It would make same sex legal in Spain and allow gay couples to adopt children. The bill is expected to pass next month.

Emotions run high during parliamentary elections in Lebanon. Two people were injured during clashes in the city of Tripoli. They broke out as supporters of anti-Syrian opposition leaders Siad Harari (ph) passed the headquarters of a former Lebonese prime minister. Harari's (ph) camp is already declaring victory in the elections.

And, security was tight during a demonstration in Lisbon, Portugal this weekend. About 200 people took part in a rally organized by the country's extreme right wing party. It says it wants to call attention to what it calls increasing gang-related crime in Portugal. Counter demonstrators shouted slogans against fascism and racism at the marchers.

What a Father's Day for Douglas Wood. He is the man just released from captivity in Iraq. His story in his own words, coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) LIN: An Australian man held captive in Iraq for 47 days says he never gave up hope that his family would find a way to free him. Well, Douglas Wood was found by U.S. and Iraqi forces last week. Now back in Australia, he is describing his treatment at the hands of Baghdad insurgents as, quote, "a bit intimidating." The 64-year-old engineer says it was thoughts of his family that kept him going.

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DOUGLAS WOOD, FORMER HOSTAGE: We're a really close family. We don't always show our affection and emotions, and I gather that my incarceration encouraged them to want to do a little bit more of it. We talk about the Stuchy (ph) side of the family as opposed to the Wood and (INAUDIBLE) side. And it's the Stuchy (ph) side that we credit we our aloofness and apparently coldness But it's not really there. It is a very deep, strong, loving bond. There is one missing today, but we all have.

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LIN: Well, later on CNN tonight, we'll talk with Douglas Wood's daughter Christina about her dad. Please join me at 10:00 Eastern.

In the meantime, that's all we have for this hour.

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