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Egypt, London, Lebanon and Spain Rocked By Terrorist Attacks; London Identifies Man Shot in Stockwell; Temperatures Soar in the U.S.; 9/11 Victims' Families Speak For New Tribute Project, Why Was Egypt Attacked; Federal Government Grappling With Cost of Security; Food Sampling, The New Rage; The Truth About Juice; More Room Needed At Arlington National Cemetery

Aired July 23, 2005 - 18:00   ET

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CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: Terror in the Mid East. More than 80 people killed on Egyptian soil in the nation's deadliest terror attack. The latest ahead.
Also, summer is taking its toll across the country. The heat claiming lives. You're going to find out if there's relief in sight.

And healthy or not, supermarkets offer dozens of options when it comes to juice but what's best for you? Details ahead.

It's July 23 and you're watching CNN LIVE SATURDAY.

Good evening from the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Carol Lin. Our top story in just a moment but first here's what's making news right now.

Police in Nevada have issued an A.M.B.E.R. Alert for 8-year-old Lydia Bethany Rose Rupp. She was taken from her home in Fernland (ph), Nevada yesterday. Police have issued a warrant for Fernando Aguero, a convicted sex offender and they believe he may be traveling in a silver blue Kia Rio without license plates.

The countdown for next week's planned launch of the space shuttle began today. Discovery's liftoff is set for 10:39 Tuesday morning. The seven member crew is at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida making final flight preparations. The July 13 launch was delayed when a fuel sensor went off.

Lance Armstrong won today's stage of the Tour de France. He extended his overall lead to four minutes and 40 seconds and seems on target to easily win the tour for the seventh straight time. Armstrong is said to ride into Paris tomorrow in the race's final stage.

That's what's happening right now, but this is our top story, the aftermath of terror, its deadly sting and repercussions being felt worldwide. In Egypt, now 83 people at least were killed in Sharm el- Sheikh by a string of bombings that left more than 200 wounded.

In London, regret today over the death of a man mistakenly killed by British police investigating Thursday's attempted bombings. Police have now identified that man shot at the Stockwell underground subway station. Our Nic Robertson is live in London with details.

Who was this young man, Nic?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, he was a 27-year-old Brazilian, Jean Charles Menezes. We don't -- we know very little about him. His cousin, however, has expressed a lot of anger from the family that this has happened, that his cousin was shot on the Stockwell tube station by police early on Friday morning.

The police have said that they regret this, however, at the time they did say that they called out a warning to this young man. They say that he failed to obey their warning. Eyewitnesses say that he jumped over the ticket gate at the station, ran down to the platform. The police -- the eyewitnesses say that they could see three plain- clothed policemen chasing him; one had a handgun pulled, a handgun. He tripped and fell as he entered the train and then the eyewitnesses say that they shot him as he tripped and fell in the train. And one eyewitness said that in the split second that the man went down before he was shot that he looked absolutely horrified at what was happening.

But police have said that the man, Jean Charles Menezes, came out of a building that they had under surveillance, that they followed him from that building to the train station. And during that time, his actions and his attire gave them cause for suspicion about what he was going to do. And it does appear that the police suspected him of being a potential suicide bomber and that is why they shot to kill.

Not far away from where that incident took place, there is another raid going on in the investigation into the failed bombings on Thursday this week. And quite literally, while we were watching, a man came back to an apartment, an area that the police had cordoned off that was being searched. He walked up to the police cordon; the police asked him his name, asked him then to step under the cordon. And literally as he stepped under the cordon, they snapped handcuffs on him. So this evening, somebody else taken into police custody. We don't know who they are, whether they're one of these four suspects that the police are trying to track down, who are on the loose in Britain at this time but the house the police were raiding there, they say was connected with the attempted bombings on Thursday, Carol.

LIN: Nic, the concern about getting the wrong guy in the shooting, it's unusual for police to actually be armed with weapons there in Great Britain, isn't it?

ROBERTSON: It's very unusual. And they were part of the surveillance team and it's certainly the -- it would appear, and experts say -- this isn't confirmed by the police, but experts do say if they run a surveillance mission, if these officers had been briefed that they were dealing with a potential suicide operative, therefore, they would have been armed. Therefore, they would have taken -- they would have not taken chances that that person could have detonated a bomb, but it is very unusual. And the people I talked to this evening in the Stockwell area, some of them said well, he shouldn't have run away. Others told me, well, look, it does make me concerned now if the police have a policy essentially to shoot first and ask questions later, then that's -- then we're worried, they said. And we talked to a Muslim community leader from that neighborhood and he said, look, at the moment, the police need the whole community to help them and this can be counterproductive in trying to catch these four men on the run, Carol.

LIN: Nic Robertson, thank you very much.

Now that the attacks that ripped through the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh today, we're going to Egypt, to this deadliest act of terrorism in Egypt's history. The string of bombings shocked Egyptians, making even President Hosni Mubarak vow not to give in to the bombings. Our John Vause has the story.

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JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The moment of attack, this was the second of three blasts. These images captured on home video by a Polish tourist not far from the city's old market. Here, most of those killed were Egyptian workers, blown apart, investigators say, by a suicide car bomber. Just moments before, another suicide car bomber, according to authorities. The target was a Ghazala Garden Hotel. The explosion so powerful it ripped off a large section of roof and concrete floors were brought crashing down.

A third blast not far away by a beach side walk, but there investigators believe the explosives were left in a sack or bag possibly detonated by a timer or cell phone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: At first, I didn't even think. I didn't even think it was a bomb. I just thought it was some sort of explosion or some sort of crash. But it was -- the sky was lit up. It was terrible, terrible.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've come to London where -- the bombs are London and we've come here for holiday and the bombs are here.

VAUSE: All the blasts were deadly and occurred within minutes of each other. Among the casualties, tourists from Europe as well as Arab states, many suffering burns or wounded by shrapnel. Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak who owns a holiday home in this resort town, met with some of those hurt.

HOSNI MUBARAK, EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, there were cuts throughout my body and I sprained my ankle.

VAUSE: The attacks, he said, were cowardly, intended to undermine Egypt's security.

MUBARAK (through translator): Our battle will continue with all the strength and the determination that we have. We will not submit or compromise. We will protect Egypt's security and the future of its sons and daughters. VAUSE (on camera): Like most hotels here in Sharm el-Sheikh, the Ghazala had taken special security precautions. There was a checkpoint right here at the entrance of the hotel where cars would be stopped and searched. But according to witnesses and the police, the suicide car bombers simply sped past the security guard, and from there, just 100 feet or so, to the hotel lobby.

(voice-over): Many tourists were left shocked by the bomb attacks and cut short vacations and headed home. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're leaving this (UNINTELLIGIBLE), less than three days holiday we must go.

VAUSE (on camera): Can we just -- can you just stop and just...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm in a state of shock.

VAUSE (voice-over): Twelve hours after the bombings, authorities decided no one could have survived under the rubble of the Ghazala Hotel. Heavy earth-moving equipment was brought in to clear the debris and begin a search for bodies and also for answers, answers about who did this, an attack on this resort town which calls itself the City of Peace.

John Vause, CNN, Sharm el-Sheikh Egypt.

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LIN: President Bush is condemning the bombings and the White House is offering to help on two fronts, assistance for the victims and support in the bombings to bring the bombers to justice. So let's go live to the White House and to our Elaine Quijano -- Elaine.

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello to you, Carol. President Bush is spending the weekend at Camp David, but this morning, the president spoke with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and offered his personal condolences as well as support from the American people. Now, a White House statement condemned the attacks in strong terms, calling them barbaric and also offering prayers to the victims and their families.

Now, in the meantime, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, while in Jerusalem, echoed those sentiments.

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CONDOLEEZZA RICE, SECRETARY OF STATE: To the people of Egypt, our deepest condolences to those who have lost their lives, our deepest sympathies and hopes for the recovery of those who were injured, and our support and solidarity to the Egyptian people.

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QUIJANO: Now, the Bush administration's statements come one day after the president said that the U.S. stands together with the people of Great Britain in the aftermath of a London attacks. And as he has said before, President Bush took a defiant tone saying the U.S. and Britain would not be intimidated dated by thugs and assassins, as he called them. And the president continuing to take a very be tough stance saying that terrorists will brought to justice. At the same time, the president reiterating his position, his belief that spreading democracy and freedom will help counteract what he says are the terrorist ideologies of hate -- Carol.

LIN: Elaine, thank you very much.

Now, in the past 24 hours, other acts of terror have rocked Turkey, Lebanon, and Spain. At least two people were wounded when a bomb exploded at a cafe popular with tourists in Istanbul, Turkey. Police suspect Kurdish rebels are behind the attack.

A dozen people were wounded late Friday when a bomb exploded in an entertainment district in Beirut, Lebanon. The blast happened just hours after a visit by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

And two arrests in Northwest Spain today after a small bomb shook the city of Santiago de Compostela. Police blame radical separatists for the attack.

The attacks in London, Egypt and elsewhere are affecting security measures right here in the United States. Many commuters now are undergoing searches before boarding subways and other forms of mass transit in New York. And Monday, their numbers will grow. Our Susan Lisovicz has that story.

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SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Heavily armed National Guardsmen provided ample evidence of the new era of anxiety at one of the world's biggest transit systems, but New Yorkers have grown accustomed to change in this post-9/11 world.

(on camera): How do you feel about the presence of National Guardsmen and the possibility that random -- well, the random searches are being conducted?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It somewhat makes me feel a little more safe, actually.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ladies and gentlemen, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) advised that effective on July 22, 2005, backpacks and other luggage remain subject to search by the police.

LISOVICZ: Here at the Atlantic Avenue Station in Brooklyn, most commuters said public satisfactory outweighed the inconvenience of random back searches.

(on camera): If you're carrying a bag right now, if you were asked to show the contents, would you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I mean I would. I wouldn't give them no problem but I would still feel a little offended, like, why you picking me out. But if they got to do what they got to do, hey, I won't -- I ain't going to give them no trouble. LISOVICZ: On Monday, the New Jersey transit system will begin random bag checks among the tens of thousands of commuters that travel into New York every day. Whether they like the changes or not, most New Yorkers rely on the subways as their primary form of transportation.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As a New Yorker, I'd be a little pissed off, a little pissed off because, you know, every minute counts in this city.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's better to, like, have to, like, be a little late than to die.

LISOVICZ (on camera): A government official calls the heightened state of alert a new level of vigilance to keep New York commuters safe. But even a spokesman for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority concedes it's a deterrent at best.

Susan Lisovicz, CNN, New York.

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LIN: Coming up at the top of the hour at 7:00 Eastern, "ON THE STORY" will have more on this week's developments in the war on terror. So stay tuned as well to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security.

So why is Egypt the latest target of a massive terrorist attack? Well, I'm going to talk with CNN's terrorism expert Peter Bergen at the bottom of the hour. He's got some interesting theories.

Also still to come...

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DAVID ISAY, STORYCORPS CREATOR: You listen to these stories and hear what's being said, it reminds you of how great it is to be alive.

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LIN: ...a project of hope arrives at Ground Zero in New York. >

And up next, staying cool any way they can. When will the nation's heat wave take a break? A check of the weather forecast when CNN LIVE SATURDAY returns.

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JAY LENO, "THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO": Back in Washington, it was so hot Karl Rove was outing CIA agents just to get a Klondike bar. People were standing next to President Bush just to get all the breeze from his back pedaling.

(END VIDEO CLIP) LIN: A laughing matter for late night TV hosts maybe but the brutal heat wave that's suffocating parts of the U.S. is not so funny for the people suffering through it. From the Midwest to the Southeast, the mercury is soaring, in some places it's in the triple digits. More now from CNN's Catherine Callaway.

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CATHERINE CALLAWAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Parts of Georgia are under a heat advisory this weekend and residents may see the hottest weather so far this year. In the Atlanta area, a number of people headed here to Centennial Park to cool off in the park's water fountains but some are thinking about their loved ones unable to get out of their homes to find some relief from the heat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My mother doesn't have air conditioning in her house. But I call her every morning to make sure she's all right and just remind her to drink water, to stay in the shade and just come over if she gets too overheated.

CALLAWAY: In St. Louis, police organized a heat beat to check in on senior citizens; going door to door with hundreds of bottles of water to see if they were coping well with the rising temperatures and making sure their homes were cool during this heat wave.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it is so sweet. I wouldn't move out of Pine Lawn for anything.

CALLAWAY: In Chicago, with temperatures heading toward 100 degrees, officials are not only concerned about the elderly but the Lollapalooza rockers partying at the Sun.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are creating water stations for people to have water. There was a two-bottle maximum rule that we are not going to strictly enforce any longer. So everyone should basically try to remain hydrated.

CALLAWAY: The city has issued a heat warning and with the hottest weather expected tomorrow and the humidity, temperatures in the Windy City will feel like 115 degrees, the hottest weather in years.

To Kansas now where authorities are concerned about furry friends, giving frozen treats at the Kansas City Zoo to the animals and free water to anyone over the age of 3. A heat advisory remains in effect in Kansas City and all of Missouri.

(On camera): With advisories popping up around the country, officials are urging people to keep abreast of the dangerous temperatures and take the warnings seriously.

Catherine Callaway, CNN, Atlanta.

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(WEATHER REPORT) LIN: Capturing the history of Ground Zero.

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ISAY: This project tells people that they matter, that everybody's story matters. In this day and age, when we're inundated with the stories of celebrities everywhere we look, in the newspapers and magazines and radio, all day, so many phony stories, these are real stories.

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LIN: Up next, I'm going to be talking with the founder of an award-winning project that is now turning its attention to 9/11.

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LIN: Memories of 9/11 and the people who died that day, those unforgettable stories are now being put on tape, documented as part of an official oral history of America. Thousands of interviews will be conducted; many will be recorded at the site of the World Trade Center. Now, this unprecedented project is being led by veteran radio documentary producer David Isay. He joins me now live.

David, what an interesting project to give people the microphone and have them recall such a critical moment of where were you when.

ISAY: Yes, StoryCorps is largely for families to come in and remember someone who was lost on September 11th. And this is such an important thing for families to do, because what they want to do is remember this person as a person who lived and loved before that horrible day of September 11th, and this gives them the opportunity to do that, remember that person as a whole person. And then that interview goes to the Library of Congress, so it'll be available for, you know your great, great, great, great grandchildren. So I think it's a really important project and it's a privilege for us to be doing this.

LIN: Now I'm curious because you've heard now 3,000 different interviews.

ISAY: Yes.

LIN: How are they different when it was such a day of tragedy? I mean do you have a favorite story, something that really stands out in your mind?

ISAY: Well, StoryCorps is a project to create an oral history of America, so we opened in Grand Central terminal 20 months ago and it's for anybody to come in and record interviews with family members, whether it's a grandmother, grandfather, someone who lives down the street. And you go into the booth and you record a 40-minute interview. And at the end of the interview, you keep a copy and another copy goes to the Library of Congress.

And the World Trade Center piece of this just opened last Tuesday. So that's relatively new to us. But what we found in the last week is that it's just been amazing. I mean people who have not come down to the site before are coming down and making this pilgrimage to remember this person that they loved. So it's just been really amazing and to see the generosity and courage of the families, whose primary concern is actually for our staff and making sure that their mental health is OK, hearing these stories all day, which are so painful and difficult to hear.

LIN: Give me a snippet. I mean what would somebody share with you that would be so intimate but they would still share it with the rest of the country?

ISAY: Well, they -- I mean they share -- people are very -- I mean this is an audio project. It's a beautiful project. People sit in this safe room, this quiet room, and just kind of melt into each other.

LIN: Right.

ISAY: It's families talking to each other. So it's everything. You hear about -- on the 9/11 Project, you hear about people who are lost on September 11th, not on that day, but you hear about them as kids and growing up and getting married, and then I mean, you hear those moments in life that make them the extraordinary and special people that they were. And those moments that can't be forgotten and won't be forgotten and that we're committed to making sure will live on forever.

LIN: And where do we get to share in this project? Where do we get to hear it? Do we have to go to the Library of Congress or is it going to be...

ISAY: Snippets of StoryCorps air on national public radio, on morning edition on Friday mornings. And you can go on our website, StoryCorps.net and it's s-t-o-r-y-c-o-r-p-s.net, and also at the American Folk Life Center at the Library of Congress. It's a 10 year project, 250,000 oral interviews. It's the largest oral history project ever undertaken. And it's -- as I said, it's our privilege to be spreading this message, that the stories of everyday people. Our stories are as important as -- and as interesting as the stories we're bombarded with all day, of, you know, Michael Jackson or Donald Trump or the runaway bride.

LIN: I understand and I agree. Thank you. David Isay...

ISAY: Thank you.

LIN: ...thank you very much.

ISAY: My pleasure, thanks.

LIN: Well, London has been the target of two separate terror attacks in the span of two weeks. What would happen if there were a third attempt? Well, you know what I'm going to speak with CNN's terrorism expert Peter Bergen and he's got some pretty scary thoughts. And they're some of the first to be called if another terrorist attack happens right here in America. So why are some emergency crews falling through the cracks when it comes to funding? That story next.

And still ahead, why one man says this construction site is already hollowed ground.

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LIN: Welcome back, I'm Carol Lin, and here's a quick look at what's happening right now.

An armed police unit raids a home in South London after a second arrest linked to the failed bombings Thursday. Also, today officials expressed regret for the fatal shooting at a subway station. They say the Brazilian man police killed yesterday was not related to the recent bomb attacks.

And Bill Clinton apologized today for not doing enough to stop Rwandan genocide while he was president. Bill Clinton laid a wreath at the genocide memorial and he expressed regret for what he called his personal failure for not acting to stop the 1994 killing of 800,00 people.

In Egypt, the death toll stands at 83 from a series of bombs at a Red Sea resort. Suicide bombers attacked a resort hotel at a popular night spot and a third bomb exploded near a beach. More than 200 people were injured in the attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh.

In the meantime, bombings in London, now bombings in Egypt, and you can't help wonder who might be next. Well, I spoke about that a short time ago with CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen.

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PETER BERGEN, CNN TERRORISM EXPERT: We don't know yet who's responsible. We've had a couple of claims of responsibility but claims of responsibility sometimes don't mean anything. I mean you can just get on the Internet and put your own claim up. But judging by the modus operandi of the attack, multiple casualties, multiple bombs, indiscriminate attacks against civilians, including Muslims civilians, you've got to say an al Qaeda-inspired group or perhaps an al Qaeda affiliate.

You know I think for Egypt, this is obviously terrible news. Since 1997, in Egypt, there's been a cease fire with the major terrorist groups and it's really held. And it held until last year with the attacks in Taba where -- which killed something like 30 Israeli tourists mostly at the Taba Hilton and another hotel.

LIN: Right.

BERGEN: And now, you've got these attacks again and you also had attacks also -- I was in Cairo recently and there were smaller attacks on foreigners in Cairo killed.

LIN: So why Egypt?

BERGEN: Why Egypt? Well you know, I mean, one of the critical parts of al Qaeda is the Egypt's jihad group, which never signed a cease fire with the Egyptian government and Ayman al Zawahiri, the leader of that group, is bin Laden's No. 2. I imagine it's an affiliate of this group or perhaps -- or the jihad group itself. And they remain intent on, you know, overthrowing the Egyptian government, destroying the Egyptian tourist industry and this is the way they want to go about it.

LIN: But why -- I'm wondering why Egypt and not the United States? Why, so far, have we not had another major attack here?

BERGEN: I don't think they really have the people here to pull off a major attack. You know they've had two really good opportunities that they -- if there were sleeper cells, they should have attacked -- one was the beginning of the Iraq war and the other one was the presidential election and nothing happened. And we've seen cases in the United States of people who were going to, you know -- who were certainly up to nefarious activities but they don't really amount to a serious terrorist plot.

We've got, you know -- I mean the situation in Spain or London or in Egypt is very different from the United States. I think, to a large degree, the American dream sort of works, and I think that one of the great unsung stories here is the American Muslim community has almost, without any exceptions at all, not signed onto the al Qaeda ideology, and it's quite opposed to it. And if you don't have that kind of support network, it's very hard to pull off a major attack because you know it's -- these kinds of attacks don't take one people. They take up to a dozen people.

LIN: Right.

BERGEN: And I just don't see cells like that existing in this country.

LIN: So what does it tell you about what's next? I mean we've seen the attack in Egypt, a second attack on the London train system. What's next?

BERGEN: Well, I think what's next is, you know, it's very possible there will be a third attack in London in which case, you know, probably Prime Minister Tony Blair keeps saying business as usual, business as usual. I don't think that mantra is going to work. I think the British stiff upper lip is not going to really hold if a third attack happens. And these people who did the second attack are very well out there and there may be other cells. Clearly, the British police missed a whole group of people, at least eight people, if you include one attack and the second attack. And there may be other cells. So I think it's really quite disturbing.

And -- you know I grew up in London. I remember the bombs going off, the IRA bombs when I was a kid. This is a whole different ball game. I mean they're looking for indiscriminate casualties, multiple attacks. I think the British are going to be quite worried. I mean the second attack, it seems the reactions we've heard on CNN from people in London, people are more freaked out than they were in the first thing because in the first thing it just was a one off. Now it looks like a campaign.

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LIN: Well, that was CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen speaking just a short time ago from Washington D.C.

Now, later this evening, CNN's Nic Robertson will speak with a radical cleric in London to try to gain some insight on the recent attacks there. That is at 10:00 p.m. Eastern, 7:00 Pacific.

It is an old adage; you get what you pay for, and post 9/11, the federal government is grappling with the cost of security; just one case in point, the funding of the reinforcements for urban rescue workers. CNN's Kathleen Koch has that story.

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KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Washington D.C. firefighters practice handling a possible chem-bio threat. Virginia firefighters trained to rescue passengers trapped in a burning subway car. But in Clinton, Maryland, just 15 miles outside the nation's capital, little is state-of-the-art.

CHIEF ROBERT SMALL, CLINTON, MD, FIRE DEPARTMENT: Our phone unit is a 1973. That -- we're going to take that out of service probably next month.

KOCH: The all-volunteer department says its vehicles, building and equipment are aging and may be strained if called upon to help respond to a massive terrorist attack in nearby Washington D.C.

SMALL: We need the resources to help us do that, and I don't think we get that. They say well the local volunteer fire department can handle that job, but you know funding is not there to help us do that job.

KOCH: Nearly three quarters of the nation's firefighters are volunteers. Many rely on grants to fund equipment upgrades and can't afford to take the time off from their paying jobs to get the extra training full time firefighters receive at work.

REP. PETER KING (R), NEW YORK: That is going to create a real problem. It means that there's a gap in there. It means that if there's an attack you won't have the type of sophisticated training that's necessary to respond effectively.

KOCH: The Homeland Security Department says it spent $13 billion since 9/11, training and equipping first responders nationwide.

MATT MAYER, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY: We'll continue to do our best to make sure that those volunteer firefighters are aware of what's already out there, they can use the funding already available to help them backfill to get the training they need. KOCH: But the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee says two-thirds of the grant money awarded since 9/11 is stuck in the pipeline.

(on camera): The House has passed a bill to get those funds, flowing to first responders who need them and to make sure departments near high-risk areas get more money than those far from likely terrorist targets.

Kathleen Koch, CNN, Washington.

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LIN: Coming up at the top of the hour, at 7:00 Eastern, "ON THE STORY" will have more on this week's developments in the war on terror, so stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable news about your security.

In the meantime, the man convicted of kidnapping, sexually assaulting and murdering 5-year-old Samantha Runnion has been sentenced to death. Alejandro Avila showed no emotion as the California judge said he destroyed a family's future. Avila's lawyer says she thinks he would have been sentenced to life had she done a better job of defending him and expects that it's going to be raised on appeal. The victim's mother addressed the killer in court as well.

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ERIN RUNNION, VICTIM'S MOTHER: In choosing to destroy Samantha's life, you chose this. You chose to waste your life to satisfy a selfish and sick desire. You knew it was wrong and you chose not to think about it. Well, now you have a lot of time to think about it. Don't waste it. Write it down so that the rest of us can figure out how to stop you people. You're a disgrace to the human race.

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LIN: And Erin Runnion is a brave woman.

Coming up at 10:00 Eastern tonight, you are going to hear the full, unedited testimony of Erin Runnion. She gave it to him. You are also going to get some tips on how to keep your children safe.

In the meantime, a labor of love and a source of national pride. Why the expansion project at Arlington National Cemetery means so much to this man? That story still ahead.

And up next, to juice or not to juice? You're going to hear the debunking of some myths behind those sweet drinks.

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LIN: Well, you wouldn't buy a new car without going for a test drive, so why not taste test the food at your grocer before buying? As Chris Huntington shows us, shoppers are virtually dining out on samples, and those freebies are helping food sellers wrack up record sales.

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CHRIS HUNTINGTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Chances are, when you see free food offered in a store, your pulse quickens and you suddenly develop the reflexes and dexterity of a bantam weight boxer or a NASCAR driver.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You want to taste a sample?

HUNTINGTON: Everyone loves free food. Nobody knows that better than the folks who ultimately want you to pay for it. In-store samples or food demos as they're called in the business...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, would you like to try some tomatoes?

HUNTINGTON: ...can send sales through the roof. Stew Leonard who runs his family's high-end food stores in Connecticut and New York, has built his business around in-store demos.

STEW LEONARD, STORE OWNER: Today's sales will double or triple just because we have the display out. But the long run sales usually go up about a third.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is delicious.

HUNTINGTON: Each of Leonard's stores plans to run 1,500 food demos this year. And his regular customers of all ages know it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where else can you shop and eat your lunch at the same time?

HUNTINGTON (on camera): Fresh mozzarella?

(voice-over): In our case, of course, it was research.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Delicious.

HUNTINGTON (on camera): Wow! That's really great. Can I just take the tray? Crab cakes, how many -- what do I go for before you basically kick me out of here?

(voice-over): Free food samples are nothing news but the menu is new. Customers have come to expect steak and salmon, not just cheese cubes and tooth picks. Some stores such as Whole Foods offer samples as more of a customer service than a sales driver. But at Costco, demos are serious business.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.S. beef loin tip steaks.

HUNTINGTON: Industry insiders say the wholesale giant has perfected the art and the science of the demo.

MEG MAJOR, EDITOR, "FRESH FOOD": No one else has really matched Costco's excellence in conducting demos. HUNTINGTON: Costco tells CNN that sales of a demoed food item will often spike as much as seven times. That's forcing the nation's leading grocery sellers, Wal-Mart, Krogger and Albertson's to take notice. As for covering the cost of all that free food, Stew Leonard has a novel idea.

LEONARD: You know we were thinking one day maybe instead of price tags around the store, we'll just weigh the customer on their way in and weigh them on their way out, and charge them the difference.

HUNTINGTON (on camera): Get a big truck sale.

(voice-over): Chris Huntington, CNN, Yonkers, New York.

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LIN: We're going to kind of stick in the grocery store for our "Fountain of Youth" segment because we want to know are fruit juices good or bad for you? Some say they are chock full of sugar and empty calories but others counter they're health potions that actually fight disease. So here to talk about this, whether fruit juice has any redeeming qualities, clinical nutritionist Samantha Heller, a contributor to "Health" magazine.

Hey, Samantha.

SAMANTHA HELLER, "HEALTH" MAGAZINE: Hey, how are you doing?

LIN: A fun article in "Health" magazine and a funny line there that fruit juice has become the Britney Spears of the grocery store. All right. I mean you love them, you hate them because I think, with a -- as the mother of a 2-year-old, you know, I really don't want to give her -- I want to give her watered down juice because I do think it's too much sugar. So what do you think?

HELLER: Well, it's going to depend on what juice you're giving your child or even drinking as an adult. We want to make sure that we're drinking 100 percent juice and make sure that it's pasteurized. And certainly, for little kids, you know, ages 1 to 6, you know, four to six ounces watered down is OK.

LIN: But critics of juice say that it's actually responsible for childhood obesity. It makes you fat, too many carbs, and you can kind of understand why if you're teaching young mouths to -- you know, to favor juice over water or other drinks.

HELLER: Well, that is actually based on a study several years ago that found that children that were drinking 12 ounces or more of fruit juice were overweight and short. But subsequent studies have not supported those findings. So what we're -- what we want to encourage people to do is include juice in their diets, as I said, 100 percent juice, read your labels carefully. Now, the FDA has regulated they have to say how much juice is in what you're drinking. It could say 10 percent juice and then the rest might be high fructose corn syrup or sugar. So we do want to be careful about that. And as an adult, 8 to 12 ounces a day, you know, I know a lot of people drink a lot more than that.

LIN: Right. So basically a cup, a cup and a half is OK.

HELLER: Yes. And it's fine. And it's good to vary the type of juices you drink as well.

LIN: Yes, like, for example, your article talks about some specific juice benefits like we hear about blueberries and how they have anti-oxidants. And now there's blueberry juice out there?

HELLER: There is blueberry juice. And it does come from concentrate, so the calories could be a little high. So you can dilute it with water or a great way to dilute juice is with seltzer because it makes a very refreshing drink.

LIN: OK. Blueberry, orange, cranberry, those are the ones that you love.

HELLER: Those are the ones you love and just check the label, look for added sugars. As I said, the added sugars add the calories and you don't need that extra sweetness. But the phytochemicals, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, in real juice are so good for you and they do fight disease.

LIN: OK. You look pretty good. How much juice do you drink these days?

HELLER: I drink some juice. I watch it because of my calories but again, 8 to 12 ounces a day can be part of your fruit intake for the day.

LIN: All right. Well, I'll tell you if blueberries are anti- aging, I'll be drinking a lot of that stuff.

HELLER: I know me too. I'll be bathing in it.

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LIN: Samantha Heller, thank you very much.

All right, if you're looking for love in the store aisles, Wal- Mart wants you to know that you're on your own. The company has ended the Single's Shopping Program at its store in Roanoke, Virginia. On Friday nights, shoppers have been encouraged to put a red bow on their carts as an invitation to others. And flirt points were set up around the store. Well, it was patterned after a program in Germany -- in the German Wal-Marts but several people apparently complained about the romancing in Roanoke. Gosh, I want more specifics on that. What happened?

In the meantime, Arlington's expansion. We are going to show you how America is preparing today for the fallen heroes of tomorrow, but first here's Kyra Phillips to tell us what's ahead on "ON THE STORY."

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're "ON THE STORY" from here in Washington, London, Baghdad and Darfur. Christiane Amanpour is on the story of new terrorists, new alert in London. Kelli Arena talks about the terror investigation, stretching to the United States. Suzanne Malveaux and Ed Henry are on the story of the president choosing John Roberts for the Supreme Court and the political fight ahead. Andrea Koppel talks about how Sudanese guards strong-armed reporters traveling with Secretary of State Rice. All coming up, all "ON THE STORY."

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LIN: Across America now, the search for a registered sex offender in Idaho expands to other states in the Pacific Northwest. Authorities are searching for John R. Cuttle, the only suspect in the stabbing of his 12-year-old daughter. The girl is in serious condition but is talking to investigators.

The police car's dashboard camera captures a dramatic high-speed chase. It began when police tried to pull the car over in North Carolina. The car reached speeds of 102 miles per hour before hitting an embankment. And spinning around in mid air, a woman and her 5- year-old were in the back seat, unhurt. The 18-year-old driver was arrested.

And a Boston construction worker is being called a Good Samaritan. He saw a robbery taking place -- going on at the Dunkin' Donuts next to his job site. After the suspect walked out, Jason Merry (ph) chased the suspect down and demanded the money back.

At Arlington National Cemetery, it is the final resting place for hundreds of thousands of Americans who died defending their country. With U.S. casualties continuing to mount in Iraq and Afghanistan, demand for cemetery space is exceeding supply, and so some changes had to be made. CNN's Barbara Starr has that story.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For the last 140 years, Arlington National Cemetery has buried the nation's war dead, 25 funerals a day now, veterans of World War II and Korea, young troops, killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. With a quarter of a million graves, Arlington is running out of room. So for the first time in a decade, the cemetery is expanding. These 40 acres will hold 26,000 new graves. Superintendent John Metzler already considers this has hollowed ground.

JOHN METZLER, SUPERINTENDENT, ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETARY: And right where we're standing right now, we won't know who will be buried here and what contribution to history they made.

STARR: The expansion will keep Arlington open until at least the year 2030.

METZLER: A lot of soldiers who had served during the Vietnam era will be buried on this 40 acres of land.

STARR: Metzler's father was also superintendent, so he grew up here. A Vietnam veteran, he honors passing comrades. (on camera): This is the area of Arlington Cemetery that is so deeply emotional, Section 60, the final resting place of those recently killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(voice-over): Of the nearly 2,000 men and women killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, 184 are buried here. Even Metzler is overcome.

METZLER: Section 60 now has become an area that tender loving care is given because the...

STARR: We are given a window into the private moments.

METZLER: After the funeral has concluded, a lot of times service members who served with the deceased will quietly come up and take off a set of wings or a coin from their pocket, and place it on top of the casket.

STARR: When this dirt becomes a rolling green hill, Metzler hopes for a different future.

METZLER: I would hope that, in the future, we don't have this large collection of soldiers buried in one location, that it is the older veterans who have lived a full life and have gone on after that.

STARR: Barbara Starr, CNN, Arlington National Cemetery.

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LIN: A programming note, tune in to "CNN PRESENTS: WARSAW RISING," the compelling stories of Polish patriots who rose up against the Nazis. That's Sunday, 8:00 p.m. Eastern, 5:00 Pacific.

And coming up in just a few minutes, "ON THE STORY." Then at 8:00 Eastern, on "CNN PRESENTS," a progress report on the war in Iraq and at 9:00, Larry King. Larry's guests tonight, the competitors from hit reality TV star, "Dancing With The Stars." And I'll be back at 10:00 Eastern. We are going to explore the possible motivations behind the terrorist attacks on western targets. In the meantime, a check of the hour's headlines and then "ON THE STORY."

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