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Dolans Unscripted

Best of Show

Aired July 30, 2005 - 10:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


KEN DOLAN, HOST: Our team here at DOLANS UNSCRIPTED came up with an idea. They said, you know what we should do? We should put together like one of those -- like shows do best of shows; like some of the stuff on the road and the interviews and maybe some of Daria's blunders, put them all together in one big show.
DARIA DOLAN, HOST: Actually they came up with that idea about a month ago, because that's how long it took to find some best of the Dolans. But nonetheless, we've put together a show that, for lack of a better term, we call the best of DOLANS UNSCRIPTED and we want to share it with you today. So, have a look and thanks for joining us.

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K.DOLAN: We have to fly -- We're going to see mom on "Tonight".

D.DOLAN: Yes.

K.DOLAN: We have to go to the airport today as we often do. We fly a lot. Do you feel safer -- speaking of one of the things we're talking about today, do you feel safer at the airport when you go in today?

D.DOLAN: Actually, I feel safe since 9-11 at the airport.

K.DOLAN: You feel safer?

D.DOLAN: And the really -- the reason I say that is and we'll talk about it with our guest coming up shortly...

K.DOLAN: Yes.

D.DOLAN: I think we're fighting the way they did it the last time, instead of what they might be doing the next time.

K.DOLAN: Another problem we got here -- and I don't know the answer, because I'm not that smart about this stuff -- is Social Security numbers, something we use as sort of a national I.D. We've got to change that, because if you don't shred up some bank statements or brokerage statements and they get -- you know, like your famous question, your secret question and then they get your secret answer, you start matching that with Social Security, see you!

D.DOLAN: The thing that is most disturbing to me is, I guess our founding fathers didn't understand what they were doing and didn't mean the language that they used specifically when they set up the U.S. - K.DOLAN: Like purpose.

D.DOLAN: Well, exactly. The court has decided that a more proper definition of public use, which is what the founding fathers said, which intimates, I think, to all of us, public use that you an I can go on that property any time we want within you know, reasonable restrictions and they've now defined it as public purpose. Well, I don't think a big office complex for the Pfizer corporation is going to get a lot of public purpose or use.

K.DOLAN: All right let me read -- Shawn! Shawn Yates (ph), our senior producer, put that up. That's that -- the Adams quote. Do we have it there, Shawn (ph)? Yes. There it is.

"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God and that there is no force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist."

You're telling me that some knucklehead politician or some gang of people in a small room are going to tell me whether they can throw me out on my kiester from my home that I've been in? God help us all.

D.DOLAN: Should Social Security be privatized?

K.DOLAN: All right, but define privatized. You're talking the private accounts?

D.DOLAN: Well, we can only define it as what the president has suggested, which would be the first 4 percent -- 4 percent of people's benefits up to $1,000 going into private accounts.

K.DOLAN: Do you like the idea of private accounts? Do you like the idea of people running their own -- investing for their own retirement, for that part of the money?

D.DOLAN: I -- something needs to be done. Obviously, Social Security is in trouble and will get into more trouble as time goes on. I subscribe to private accounts, because I'm tired of big government trying to nursemaid everybody in this country. And that -- and I don't say that as a conservative. If anything, I say that as a libertarian.

I -- I believe that people can, given the choice, get serious about making the right choices with some of their investment money and if you look at the rate of return that our money invested in the Social Security Trust Fund gets -- whether there's a trust fund is another argument for another day -- we do not receive the rate of return that would even be commensurate if people chose nothing more than certificates of deposit over a long period of time.

K.DOLAN: All right. OK. OK. OK. Do you have any idea how much it's going to cost to do that transition? Does the term 750 -- by the way, I don't disagree with that in concept.

D.DOLAN: No. But how do you feel about private accounts?

K.DOLAN: I don't like the idea.

D.DOLAN: You don't think we can handle it?

K.DOLAN: I don't think most people can handle it. Can I give you...

D.DOLAN: And I say people have been made to handle things.

K.DOLAN: $754 billion to -- for the transition cost is the first takedown. I'm of the opinion it's going to cost a few trillion dollars in the transition and listen to this, Ms. Social Security Breath, do you want to hear something that'll just blow your argument right out of the water? As usual, me coming across with the facts. Guess who's going to finance the transition? Just think for a second. Just think. Who's going to finance this?

D.DOLAN: Well, of course, the American tax-payer is going to do this.

K.DOLAN: China! China, the biggest buyer of Treasury securities. Where do you think the transition money is going to come from? It's going to come from the sale of Treasury securities. Who's the biggest buyer? China and Japan.

Would you like China to be the biggest holder of paper in the United States because of privatization of Social Security? Do you have any idea what that'll do to U.S. jobs? Think more deeply. Think past the surface.

D.DOLAN: The fact of the matter is, we cannot continue to pay people the way we are paying them in Social Security. And if putting some money in on your own -- number one, it's going to make your more responsible. And I ask the question -- and maybe one of you will answer it -- do we not save very well in this country, as a direct result of Social Security and knowing there'll be something there at the end?

K.DOLAN: What's happening -- and I'll tell you what's happening, Daria Dolan. There are people that are seeing these -- some of these drug advertisements during the football games and baseball and the news and they're going directly to the doctor and putting pressure on the doctors. And some doctors are saying, I don't think it will hurt them, let them have it. So, stop complaining.

D.DOLAN: Well, there's that, but you know, we all worry about the prices of prescription medicines. Do you think all of this advertising is keeping the prices low? No. If anything, it's inflating the prices to us. But my takeaway from all of this is, never forget that all drugs have potential side effects, some more dangerous than others. They should be your last line of defense, not your first line.

K.DOLAN: I think the bottom line -- my bottom line is just be awfully careful what gets prescribed. Learn more about these things as best you can. I think the FDA could do a stronger job. Maybe it's just me, but that's my opinion. K.DOLAN: Let's not get too excited about how responsible all college kids are. Don't forget, some credit card companies, Daria Dolan, are hoping the fact that whether I get a job at 18 or 19 or 20 or 21 when I graduate, the parents are going to take care of it anyway. Except the parents...

D.DOLAN: Are up to their eyeballs in debt.

K.DOLAN: So, you've got to be careful.

D.DOLAN: But the really serious thing that, I think, as a society we need to worry about and we need to teach these children better right from the get-go, is that if 66 percent of these kids are only making minimum payments, it's going to be a long time after those student loans kick in that they're ever going to pay the balances off. And what about the 11 percent that aren't even doing that?

The younger you start off with a loaded debt on your shoulders, the odds are you're going to be in debt for many, many years to come. It is my opinion and the bottom line to this piece, that we need to get some sort of rational legislation in this country that basically says under the age of 21 years of age, if you have a credit card, the only kind of credit card you can have is one that you must pay in full.

D.DOLAN: You've got to admit that these tax cuts have increased tax revenue, number one. Number two, the last years of the Clinton administration were blessed with a bull stock market in which people were taking profits left, right and sideways, adding more and more tax dollars in. And the biggest reason we went into deficit was because Congress has not stopped out-spending what we send to Washington, D.C. So, yes, there probably will be a growth in the deficit yet again, but it is going to be laid firmly in the hands of the Congress of the United States that spends money profligately.

K.DOLAN: If you're a first-time home buyer, forget the 100 percent mortgage. We hate them. I don't like them and the mortgage companies will hate me. I don't like them. Buy a home in an area that you can afford. After you have done your comparable shopping, put down 20 percent and the heck with the housing bubble. If your house goes up in value, don't try to buy five houses with the equity. The housing bubble, good bye. Thank you. Next.

D.DOLAN: But up next, Dallas Mavericks' owner Mark Cuban, is a wildly successful businessman. And besides shooting hoops, what else is he up to these days? Blogging, for one thing. Stick around and learn more.

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Do replace your old shower head with a low-flow model and faucet aerator. It prevents the energy used to heat water from going down the drain. Do buy energy efficient appliances. Products with the Energy Star label typically use 20 to 40 percent less energy. Some electric companies and even state governments offer consumer rebates on energy Star-Rated models.

Do shade your air conditioner. A unit operating in the shade uses as much as 10 percent less electricity.

K.DOLAN: And here's what you shouldn't do. Don't overheat or overcool rooms. In the summer, set your thermostat to 78 degrees or higher when a room is occupied and turn it off when no one is there. Ceiling or free-standing fans can also cool rooms effectively while using less energy than air conditioning.

Don't run dishwashers and washing machines unless you have a full load and us the warm or cold water setting instead of hot. Washing clothes in cold water reduces energy use by 75 percent. Don't leave seldom-used appliances and gadgets plugged in.

Also, consider power strips to switch off televisions and stereos when not in use. Standby consumption can be equivalent to that of a 75 or 100 watt light bulb running continuously.

Keep in mind, as you save energy, you also save money.

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K.DOLAN: Mark Cuban is best known as the free-wheeling owner of the Dallas Mavericks. A fan favorite, he's racked up over a million dollars in fines for verbally abusing game officials, which led to the staging of this April Fool's joke in 2003.

Cuban made his fortune in technology. In 1995, he co-founded Internet media site Broadcast.com. Four years later at the height of the Internet bubble, he sold it to Yahoo for over $5 billion, ballooning his personal wealth to $1.3 billion. The profits allowed him to buy the Mavericks as well as pursue other interests, including producing films like "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Began by at tracking the kind of people that are more comfortable in an environment of change.

K.DOLAN: And starring in his own reality show called "The Benefactor." Most recently, he's tackling the Wild West of the Internet -- blogs.

Why should we be listening to you? And I have to listen, because you've been successful. What's this blog stuff and why do we -- why should we care?

MARK CUBAN, OWNER, DALLAS MAVERICKS: I don't know that you should be listening or reading my blog, but I've got to tell you, in the blogosphere it's a unique opportunity for people to convey what's on their mind.

And, you know, for basketball fans or stock market or technology fans, I'll go on my blog and really -- I'll be able to give you the straight scoop. You know, so much gets distributed in the media you really don't know what someone's thinking. It gets crunched down into little sound bites.

Having my own blog, I can give you in-depth analysis, if you will or reasons behind what someone's really saying about me or the Mavs or technology or HDNet, whatever it may be.

K.DOLAN: Yes.

D.DOLAN: But Mark, for the average person, I mean, we've gone from a couple years ago, 100,000 people blogging, to now eight-and-a- half million. You can't all be doing -- you know, getting audience here. There's just too many places.

CUBAN: No.

D.DOLAN: What makes something stand out and if someone's looking to do it as a business, how can they make money?

CUBAN: Well, two issues. One is, are you -- if you're looking to do it as a business, unless you already have something that you're selling and this is just a compliment, then don't do it. This is not a way to make money.

You know, if you're just an individual and you're blogging and you have things on your mind, it's really just a better way to communicate with your friends and family. You know, instead of having to send e-mails to everybody, you can write about your trip to Asia or you know, what you did on your summer vacation.

So, most people are never going to make a living at it. But if you're in a corporate America, if you're a public figure, it's a way for you to communicate about what you're doing in your organization as if you're a columnist in a major, you know, media publication. I mean, it's not unusual for me to get 300,000 people on any given day, and over the course of a month, you know, several million people reading my blog.

K.DOLAN: Yes. In fact, Mark, I was on the blog this morning before we did this -- BlogMaverick.com. You know what I like about it? Not only do we like you personally, but -- because you're such a straight shooter, I like the idea of you starting a trend of CEOs actually getting on and cutting through all of this crap in the annual reports and all this stuff that nobody understands, either as a shareholder or potential shareholder and you actually have something to say. And I'd like to see other CEOs do it that way, as you said, instead of getting a little clip here and a little clip there and say nothing.

CUBAN: Well, you're exactly right. One of the great things -- and the key really, I think -- to a successful blog is that you have to be brutally honest. You can't do CEO speak, you can't do annual-report speak, because people on the blogosphere and your readers are just going to see right through it. And particularly, if you have a blog that allows comments, because if you allow comments and you're talking nonsense or just talking around a subject, you're just going to get ripped to pieces in the comments and it will act as a magnet for people who aren't going help your product or aren't going help your cause at all. So, you have to be very careful.

D.DOLAN: Why would you choose to blog, since there are so many blogs out there, when you could go to the mainstream media like coming here on our show here on CNN and reach a whole lot more people in one fell swoop?

CUBAN: Well, it's a great point. You're right, I can reach more people on your show. But at the same time I -- we're limited by time, where if I talk to a newspaper, we're limited in a number of words. So, I mean, you've been in that similar situation where a two-hour conversation turns into 500 words or a 15-second or one-minute segment.

With the blog, you can expound and go as in-depth as you like and that really is a unique opportunity. And I'll tell you one other thing that's critical in a blog that I've really learned from in my blog, the user comments. If you -- when you come out and say something in a regular media, there's not really an interactive discussion about what you've just discussed or talked about.

On the blog, if I write something, whether it's about business, whether it's about the Mavericks, whether it's about technology, one of the cool things is I know out of all those hundreds of thousands of readers, someone might disagree with me and really might have a better perspective on the topic than I do.

K.DOLAN: You might learn, yourself, something.

CUBAN: And I might learn something.

K.DOLAN: Yes. What are you most excited about in your business life, Mark?

CUBAN: Well, I mean HDNet, high definition television is just rocking and so our two channels are just growing with the industry. I love what we're doing with Landmark and H.D. net together. We own Landmark Theater, the high-end art.

And what we're able to do with those, is by combing the two, we're able to eliminate all the Hollywood windows and come out with day-in-date releases. Out first movie "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room," which is out in theaters now, we premiered day-in-date right on HDNet and I just love messing with Hollywood. Just kind of changing the rules and doing it the right way, the way consumers want to get it, rather than the way Hollywood says it should be.

K.DOLAN: The final comment, Daria.

D.DOLAN: And the final question, for those that are really into technology, Mark, from your vantage point -- because obviously that's what's got you started with Microsolutions, where do you think the next hot technology sector is going to be?

CUBAN: You know, biotech is always going to be, but it's impossible to really know what's next and what will work. In the corporate and personal technology, I think the unique thing that's happening right now is that we're all starting to carry digital devices with us.

We have phones. We have MP3 players/Ipods. We have PDAs. And I think the unique thing that's happening now is those three devices are going to be crushed into one. Just like we saw with the P.C. -- desktop P.C., where every time there was something new it ended up being made part of the P.C., you're going to see the same thing happen.

So, there's a war that's going to go on between Ipod-like devices and phones to see which one is the primary device that we carry and then, the wireless to get to it. That could overtake satellite radio. Who knows.

K.DOLAN: Mark, you have a standing invitation to join us live here at CNN in New York at Time Warner, so that the next time you come to New York, we can talk about a whole bunch of things.

CUBAN: Well, I appreciate it that. You guys are great. I really appreciate the time.

K.DOLAN: Thanks a lot, Mark.

D.DOLAN: Thank you.

K.DOLAN: Talk to you again soon.

CUBAN: Thank you, Ken. Thanks, Daria.

K.DOLAN: A good guy.

D.DOLAN: Yes. Mark Cuban.

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ANNOUNCER: Up next, the best of DOLANS ON DEMAND.

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K.DOLAN: Welcome back DOLANS UNSCRIPTED, everybody. "Dolans On Demand." It is the first of the hour here. We're glad you're with us. Thanks for joining us on Saturday morning.

Our first caller is from the British Virgin Islands, on Necker Island in the BVI. His name is Richard. Richard, Welcome to DOLANS UNSCRIPTED.

CALLER: Good to talk to you.

K.DOLAN: How are you?

CALLER: I'm extremely well.

K.DOLAN: You are not the Sir Richard Branson, are you?

CALLER: I might be.

K.DOLAN: I love when he's so hard to get along with.

CALLER: OK. This is about the credit cards.

K.DOLAN: Yes.

CALLER: One of my sons dropped out of school due to credit card debt. And when we started getting calls, we started getting calls about this, I was told by the credit card companies that as a parent, I should be paying his debt and I said, no way in hell. This kid is straightening himself out. He worked three jobs.

K.DOLAN: Tremendous parenting.

CALLER: Unfortunately, he had to drop out of school. He will be going back shortly.

D.DOLAN: Excellent.

K.DOLAN: What's up, Deb?

CALLER: I have Medicare and retiree health insurance.

D.DOLAN: Yes.

CALLER: ... and a $30,000 prescription drug bill.

K.DOLAN: Wait -- $30,000?

CALLER: $30,000.

K.DOLAN: Wow.

D.DOLAN: Hey, Lou. How are you?

K.DOLAN: Hey, Lou.

CALLER: I'm doing good, guys. How about you?

K.DOLAN: Fine, Lou. Thanks.

D.DOLAN: Good.

CALLER: I love your show.

K.DOLAN: Thanks you, Lou.

D.DOLAN: Thanks, Lou.

CALLER: The question is, this is regarding property taxes. My property taxes here in Indianapolis went up 25 percent last year.

K.DOLAN: One year?

CALLER: In one year.

D.DOLAN: Your salary did, too, right, Lou?

CALLER: Oh, yeah and I was unemployed.

D.DOLAN: Perfect.

K.DOLAN: Dearl Dolans -- "Ken, you say you want to raise," -- oh, no. It didn't take long, did it? "Ken, you say you want to raise the retirement age. I say bring your butt down to my job and do it until you're 70. People who work for a living can barely make it to the current age!"

K.DOLAN: Andy in New York, welcome to "Dolans On Demand."

CALLER: Hi, guys. I miss you guys every day, but it's good to get you on Saturday.

K.DOLAN: Thanks, Andy.

D.DOLAN: Thank you, Andy. What's up?

CALLER: Our energy dependence is really based on our ignorance on reforming ourselves. We've had so many opportunities to change this mindset from the '70s.

K.DOLAN: I agree.

CALLER: We can go hydrogen. We can go coal. We can go a thousand ways. We keep giving ourselves the dependency on this foreign oil.

K.DOLAN: Hey, Andy. I just...

D.DOLAN: Andy, I think we're aided and abetted because the government people are addicted to taxes that they get from all of this petroleum product. And I think that, that is one of the reasons why we're not seeing anything more definitive out of D.C.

K.DOLAN: It cost me 50 bucks to fill up my car, Andy. You're absolutely right.

K.DOLAN: What's on your mind?

CALLER: I can't hear you.

D.DOLAN: You can't hear us?

K.DOLAN: What's on your -- what's your question?

CALLER: Oh, my question is this...

K.DOLAN: Where are we going?

D.DOLAN: We're going to Dorothy in Missouri, next. Hey, Dorothy.

CALLER: Good morning.

D.DOLAN: How are you?

K.DOLAN: Hi.

CALLER: I want to first compliment both of you. As husband and wife, you are an encouragement to, hopefully, our young people that a husband and wife can work together, especially in the spotlight.

K.DOLAN: We've been working together in radio and TV for 20 years together every day, Dorothy.

D.DOLAN: My best friend, Dorothy.

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ANNOUNCER: After the break, from the pits of Daytona to wine tasting in the Big Apple to the hills of Hollywood, we'll bring you the best of "Dolans Across America."

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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. I'm Betty Nguyen. DOLANS UNSCRIPTED is straight ahead. But first, here's the stories "Now in the News".

Extraordinary pictures from outer space. The space walk has been under way for just over four-and-a-half hours. Two of Shuttle Discovery's astronauts tested new techniques for repairing shuttles damaged in flight. You're looking at live pictures of the space walk right now. They're also doing some minor fixes to the international space station.

Well, one day after London police arrested two men in connection with the failed transit bombings, the focus now shifts to Rome. The suspected fourth bomber was arrested there and he had a court hearing this morning. Italian authorities identify him as a Briton of Ethiopian descent. British officials want him extradited.

President Bush is getting his annual physical exam this morning. The last one though showed that he had gained a few pounds and his cholesterol level was up. Meanwhile, in his weekly radio address, the president urged Congress to confirm his Supreme Court nominee after their summer break.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I look forward to working with the Senate in the weeks ahead so that Judge Roberts can receive a timely and dignified hearing and be confirmed before the court reconvenes on October 3.

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NGUYEN: So you're up to date. I'm Betty Nguyen. Now it's back to DOLANS UNSCRIPTED.

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K. DOLAN: The NASCAR industry with revenues in the billions, fans in the millions and TV ratings second only to the NFL is a roaring business. They have just one problem, I don't get it. Why do you guys like it so much? Are you here because you have to be or are you here because you want to keep an eye on your husband or the third choice is --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I really enjoy it.

K. DOLAN: What excites you the most?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's a really highly competitive sport, but everything they say about NASCAR and family holds true. It's really a community sport.

K. DOLAN: Beyond the competition and community, access is unique to NASCAR.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm very impressed because it's not like the Super Bowl and World Series. The fans are here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're right here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here to there is where they are.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely. I mean you can walk right up to them and say hi and they can walk right up to you and vice versa. So I think that's a big part of it.

K. DOLAN: I'm feeding my need for speed. Why do you like cars running around in a circle at 184 miles an hour at the risk of their life? Tell me. Maybe that's why you like it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's pretty sexy, a lot of hot guys to look at.

K. DOLAN: Walter? Did she say sexy? A lot of anchors, CNN people here, too? I think I finally get it. NASCAR's about speed, community, meeting your idols and dream boats like me that cover it all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love American cars. I wouldn't buy anything else.

D. DOLAN: If there is a success story in cars U.S. manufactured, we're standing next to it right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh sure. One of the bright spots in U.S. cars is the Chrysler 300. I mean, this has a lot of street cred. A lot of celebrities are lining up to buy this car. Sales are brisk. This isn't a small lightweight car. This is a big blocky thing, has a lot of room inside.

D. DOLAN: This is the kind of trunk I like in a car. I could use it instead of my apartment in New York City. It's got more room. Get the woman on this side.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The last American car I had I was very unhappy with and I swore I would never buy another American car.

K. DOLAN: While many people in the media business are focusing on what the stars will be wearing at the Oscar ceremony...

D. DOLAN: The Dolans will be looking into the future of Hollywood.

K. DOLAN: Oh, I can't believe this! Thank you. I'm so surprised. But I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the little people.

D. DOLAN: Wait a minute. I'm a little person. Part of this is mine. It's mine.

K. DOLAN: OK. We'll share it.

I headed over to Union Station to check it out.

We're running now about 15 minutes late. Announcement just comes over that there are now two trains stalled in this 100-year-old tunnel in front of us and that we don't know exactly when we're going to arrive. In this car now there are probably seven or eight people that would like a little bit more predictability. In fact, I'm going to talk to this young guy over here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you travel with the planes, you get used to delays. If you drive, you get used to traffic. Unfortunately if you take the trains regularly like I do and some of the other people on this train do, you'll run into occasional problems.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are losing money because of breakdowns of trains because there's no capital money for improvements. If they are running behind by an hour on a route from say Washington to New York and people say we're not going to take Amtrak, they're going to lose business. That's a problem. So I think we have a spending decision. We may be actually losing money by cutting it back so much.

D. DOLAN: Who do you think you have to worry about coming on to this concept and taking it and running with it as well?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you're selling wines that are $5 to $15, your competition is really Starbucks or it's people buying beer, people buying alternative products that are beverages that they can enjoy for $5, $6, $7, $8, $9, $10, not so much the wine store around the corner or the supermarket. Since so few people in this country drink wine -- 90 percent of the wine is consumed by 10 percent of the adult population -- we're not after market share. We're after a bigger market. So we want to grow that pie and we think there's plenty to go around for everyone.

K. DOLAN: Daria, I want you to know that I'd do anything for this program, even embarrass myself, OK?

The Super Bowl is expected to bring in an estimated $300 million to Jacksonville but beyond the cash, locals are happy about the prestige.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's wonderful. I mean, it means you're on the map, you know?

K. DOLAN: So the city seems to be ready for the big game, but what about the teams?

Any particular thing about this stadium that makes it easy or harder to kick? Or is it just another place to (INAUDIBLE) one full practice this week, a hard practice this week? This guy's big. I could still take him if I had to, too.

Do you like the media day or the football better?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I enjoy the football.

K. DOLAN: You're enjoying yourself.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I prefer the football.

K. DOLAN: I can take this guy, too. I'm from Boston. I'm a New England Patriots fan but I want to congratulate you on a great year and I wish you the best of luck tomorrow.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I appreciate it.

K. DOLAN: I really do. You're a great coach. I thought I saw Snoop Doggy Dog, I don't know, I thought I did. And by the way, I have a lot of questions for him, especially waiting for Tom Brady. He's cute isn't he? Tom, what about the Eagles' game plan concerns you the most? What other capability concerns you or your team the most, if there's any one thing. My last question, are you willing to arm wrestle me? That's all I want to know. Are you willing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.

K. DOLAN: I wish you the best of luck. Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you. You've got better leverage, man, you're shorter.

K. DOLAN: So that was my trip to Jacksonville. And after all my hard work, the crew still made me carry their bags.

When we come back, shoe designer Kenneth Cole takes a stand against AIDS, a real serious stand. He's a good guy. Find out how he's using his fame to focus the spotlight squarely on this very important cause. You better stick around. We're coming right back.

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D. DOLAN: Shoe designer Kenneth Cole is in full stride in the fight against AIDS. Recently we had the opportunity to sit down for an interview with him in his New York workshop, but first, let's take a look at the battle he's been waging for 20 years.

K. DOLAN: He's best known for this, but he also wants you to know him for this. Designer Kenneth Cole is committed to the war against AIDS. For two decades he's been a big supporter of AMFAR, the American Foundation for AIDS Research.

KENNETH COLE, CHAIRMAN AMFAR: AIDS will only be cured through research. And that's what AMFAR does. My goal here is clearly naive, but maybe not, is to find a cure.

K. DOLAN: Even though AIDS is off the front page, the search for a cure remains urgent according to Allan Rosenfield, dean of Columbia School of Public Health.

DR. ALLAN ROSENFIELD, AMFAR: There are approximately 40 million people HIV positive globally and the majority in poor countries, but it also is a major issue in the United States. We have roughly just under a million HIV positive people. We have as many as 40 to 50,000 new cases annually. We have about 14, 15,000 deaths annually.

K. DOLAN: The big question is, will we see a cure in our lifetime?

DR. JUDY AUERBACH, AMFAR: It depends on how young you are.

K. DOLAN: In the meantime, AMFAR also raises money for AIDS prevention, treatment, education and public policy.

AUERBACH: We make a fair bit of our money through direct mail and direct response from people who can just give us a few dollars regularly, as well as some more high profile people including businesspeople and celebrities.

K. DOLAN: As for Kenneth Cole, AIDS is not a cause du jour.

COLE: It's not an opportunity to seize the spotlight and exploit something. This is inherent in who I am and who we are. It's a party of what my company has done for 20 years and is something we believe in.

K. DOLAN: And he's believed very strongly in the AIDS fight since 1985 when Kenneth Cole was first the step out of the fashion industry to start the fight.

D. DOLAN: Kenneth, in 1985, I mean, you were really a young up and coming designer. But you hadn't really taken hold to the degree that you have today. Why would you take such a risk? Was it the number of friends you lost?

COLE: The industry was very -- was devastated, clearly, early on as were most of the creative industries and ultimately all industries were. But in 1985, very early on it was so obvious that how AIDS was being transmitted, we knew how and we knew how to contain it although we didn't know how to cure it unlike most viruses over the years.

So, there was this extraordinary opportunity to tell people what they have to do and, of course they will. That's what makes the human species so advanced and why we've survived so long. And of course then we'll act appropriately. And it was almost like an opportunity that you just don't get in life that's to be part of something that is so extraordinary and so big.

K. DOLAN: Is AIDS suffering from the fact that the media's not covering it the way it did in the early days of the AIDS fundraising campaign?

COLE: Right after 9/11, all the not for profits certainly in America were essentially devastated. If you weren't connected to 9/11 relief, you were devastated. You were virtually out of business for six to nine months. And that's what happens. The media takes its eye off of that and moves it here and we respond to the acute as opposed to the chronic. And if you're showing us devastation, we can't put our heads on the pillow at night.

K. DOLAN: (INAUDIBLE)

COLE: ... unless we connect. If you're pulling on the heart strings, I'm going to pull out my wallet. So and that's what happens and that's what happened then and it's going to happen now. Not only is AIDS not being funded, it's being defunded. These governments are saying, OK, I'm going to allocate resources to the tsunami relief. Where's it going to come from? It comes from AIDS. It comes from other places.

D. DOLAN: Kenneth, it's one thing for you to be the big supporter of American research for AIDS and to be part of AMFAR, but you are a business guy who is now the chairman of AMFAR.

K. DOLAN: In your spare time.

D. DOLAN: While you're president and CEO of your own business and you're doing other charity projects like the homeless. How does one run a business and manage this? I know the old saying you want a job done, give it to a busy person. But come on.

COLE: The first thing I should tell you, sleep is highly overrated. But you do it. And you get it done and you find synergies. And I think that the reason I'm so excited about the opportunity to be part of something so grand and so important as AIDS research because a cure for AIDS will only come from research. That's what AMFAR does.

I think that if you take a very nontraditional approach, the road least traveled and you look for creative, unexpected opportunities to marry resources and to explore opportunities and I think you can make significant progress. More so than the NIH is inclined to do and other established and prestigious and effective research initiatives historically have done. All I hope to do is mobilize and inspire and hopefully focus our efforts on the most creative opportunistic ways to make a difference.

K. DOLAN: Kenneth, we appreciate your taking time from a very busy week, fashion week, which must be one of your busiest times. And we hope other corporate leaders in America take your lead. Kenneth Cole Productions, we wish you continued success and we believe that we might find a cure in our lifetime. Keep up the good work.

COLE: Thank you very much.

K. DOLAN: Well done.

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K. DOLAN: Working with members of the opposite sex can be hazardous to your marriage.

D. DOLAN: Why do you think we work together?

K. DOLAN: Just because you're on radio and just because you're on television doesn't mean you don't have to go to the back of the line.

D. DOLAN: This isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

K. DOLAN: I thought it would be worse than this.

D. DOLAN: We wear these things mainly because one of us lost their license one time.

K. DOLAN: This is a little trick we ought to tell our audience on DOLANS UNSCRIPTED. These are things are like 12 bucks. They're really great. You can put your ID here, put your ID here, then your ticket. I don't want my age to show. People think I'm about 30 years old. There's a lot of happy people here in line, you can see Daria. Everybody's really looking forward to the strip search. Eight minutes so far, eight minutes. This is good. Don't go in front of him.

I'm going to bet you five cents that I can put it closer to the pin. Is that a bet? This is cash. No checks or anything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Usually -- yeah. And remember, fast pay makes good friends.

K. DOLAN: Good man. Let's try it. I need this five cents so badly. This is the club, right?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.

K. DOLAN: Let's go, buddy. Come on, big daddy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just put it to the right of the pin and just...

K. DOLAN: I'm still reaching.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: See, that's a little --

K. DOLAN: Left, left.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right on. Now you can putt from there.

K. DOLAN: I guess I can putt. Is that on?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

K. DOLAN: All right, good. Oh, that's the best one. Sit down, baby. Sit down right -- yeah, baby! That's my man, David Gant (ph). Lands beautiful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the best I got.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'd love to show you around.

D. DOLAN: OK, great. This is really exciting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the way -- this is the way to travel.

D. DOLAN: I love it. And I'm about to take out the cameraman on a couple of motorcycles behind them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're headed over to our Vespa boutique (ph).

D. DOLAN: Before I leave FAO Swartz, there's just one thing I really, really have to do. May I?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course.

K. DOLAN: Why are you so gabby today? Can I just finish? Can I just finish?

D. DOLAN: It's the coffee here.

K. DOLAN: Somewhere in the first break, like before we break, could I just finish one complete sentence?

D. DOLAN: Be my guest.

K. DOLAN: If a ball hits the foul pole why is it a home run? It's foul.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe it should have been called a fair pole.

K. DOLAN: I think it should be because you Yankees have killed more than -- have broken my heart on more than one Red Sox game when one of your cheap little fly balls hit this and it was a home run. (INAUDIBLE) I should be nicer to my host. I was told this was a complimentary tour around Yankee Stadium. I had no idea that -- that I would be doing this. I'm telling you -

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You missed a spot. He missed a spot.

D. DOLAN: I'm doing great.

K. DOLAN: All right?

D. DOLAN: They haven't dragged me into traffic yet. Let's go visit Uncle Ken, everybody.

K. DOLAN: Never mind visiting Uncle Ken. What a cute dog. We'd like to thank Nancy who works with us here at CNNfn for letting us use the dog. There will be a check in the mail, Nancy.

D. DOLAN: You're going to be taking his job next week with me, yes.

K. DOLAN: Did you enjoy the dog?

D. DOLAN: It's going to be Daria and (INAUDIBLE)

K. DOLAN: Look at this pumpkin.

D. DOLAN: This is the handiwork of one of our graphic artists here, Mike Chickatollo (ph). It is the most amazing thing.

K. DOLAN: You know the thing I used to do when Meredith, when our daughter was growing up, I'd just cut my fingers once a year trying to get the knife through. Look at me at the top.

D. DOLAN: I see that. I see that.

K. DOLAN: With the mouth open.

D. DOLAN: Yeah. What a similarity! Look at that.

K. DOLAN: Let's see Daria.

D. DOLAN: Mike has captured you perfectly.

K. DOLAN: See how close Daria is. Yeah, that's it with the big mouth. There you go.

D. DOLAN: Our little magical mystery tour is over. CNN is making us return the bus.

K. DOLAN: I'll tell you one thing I learned from this time going through downtown New York, having come here and lived here on and off for the last 30 years, I didn't realize how little I knew about New York. It's been wonderful. Have you enjoyed it?

D. DOLAN: I've had a ball.

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K. DOLAN: There you have it. The best of the Dolans. Hope you enjoyed it.

D. DOLAN: Was that the best? No, that was best. At least we hope you thought it was the best of the Dolans.

K. DOLAN: It was fun.

D. DOLAN: Here on DOLANS UNSCRIPTED and I just want to say to each and every one of you, we really appreciate the honor you give us each week, inviting us into your homes, have a cup of coffee and we certainly enjoy talking with all of you when you call in on "Dolans On Demand."

So on the part of the Dolans, we want to thank you very much for the privilege of being part of your Saturdays and we wish you all the best. Take care. The TURNAROUND is next after the top news headlines at this hour.

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