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New Developments in New England Double Murder
Aired January 27, 2006 - 20:00 ET
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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, late-breaking developments in that New England double murder of a 27-year-old woman and her beautiful 9-month-old little girl, found lying together in bed, apparently killed in their sleep. The father and husband, located in Great Britain tonight, talks to U.S. investigators. Is Entwistle headed home to the U.S.?
And also tonight, after two years hoping and praying, a father turns to the legal system, and tonight, he needs our help to find out what happened to his 21-year-old daughter, a nursing student who seemingly vanished after a minor roadside car crash.
Good evening, everybody. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us tonight. Tonight, the mystery surrounding a 21-year-old nursing student intensifies. Maura Murray drove into a tree, stepped out of the car unharmed. Police there on the scene in just minutes. Maura Murray is gone, never seen again.
And a developing story tonight, spanning from a tiny town in the U.S. across the ocean to Great Britain. A 27-year-old mom, her 9-month-old baby girl found dead together in bed. Husband? Neil Entwistle. He`s been located in Great Britain and tonight speaks to U.S. officials at the U.S. embassy. What, if anything, does Entwistle know about the murders?
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MARTHA COAKLEY, MIDDLESEX CO. DISTRICT ATTORNEY: They were both in the bed. They were obviously close to each other, if you can imagine the positioning, because the baby was in front of the mother.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s devastating to the entire community.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was shocked, I must admit, but you know, because I don`t really know them personally, I was -- you know, I thought it was not very nice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s kind of scary, considering I live in the neighborhood right next door. So I mean, just knowing that there was a murder that happened nearby kind of freaks you out.
COAKLEY: The medical examiner completed his autopsies on Rachel and Lillian Entwistle. The cause of death to the baby, as we indicated yesterday, is, in fact, a gunshot wound to the torso. The cause of death to the mother, however, is a little bit different. She also suffered a gunshot wound to the head.
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GRACE: We are going straight out to a reporter with "The Mirror" in Great Britain. Emily Nash is joining us. Emily, I understand that Entwistle was questioned in the U.S. embassy. What are the latest developments?
EMILY NASH, "THE MIRROR": The latest developments this evening are that he still remains in the embassy, as far as we are currently aware. There appear to be no immediate plans for any travel arrangements for him, although authorities are stressing that he`s not in police custody.
GRACE: Not in police custody. Then Emily, what travel arrangements - - to what travel arrangements are you referring? Is Entwistle headed home?
NASH: There have been a few reports this evening that he may voluntarily go back to the U.S., although none of these have been confirmed, either by the U.K. or the U.S. authorities. And in fact, the U.K. authorities are saying that simply they don`t have a request for extradition.
GRACE: So there is no request for extradition? Everyone, you are seeing shots now, Entwistle headed to the U.S. embassy, or you were seeing them. As we know tonight, Neil Entwistle at the U.S. embassy, under questioning.
Emily, you said that he is free to go. He is not under custody, correct?
NASH: As far as I`m aware. The police have stressed that he is not in custody. However, I do believe he continues to be questioned at the U.S. embassy in central London this evening.
GRACE: What are British authorities saying about the case?
NASH: They`re saying very little. Obviously, this is an American investigation, and the U.K. police are doing everything they can to cooperate with detectives who have flown in from Massachusetts. However, it`s not their case, so I think they`re saying very little.
GRACE: Emily, do we know where Entwistle has been staying there in Great Britain?
NASH: We do. And as far as we know, he has spent the majority of his time at the home of his parents in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, a small mining town about two hours north of London.
GRACE: Emily Nash with us from Great Britain, with "The Mirror." Emily, how long has he been in questioning?
NASH: We know that our reporters actually witnessed him being escorted from his parents` home this morning at around 10 to 10:00. He was driven in an unmarked vehicle by two Nottinghamshire police officers to the U.S. embassy in central London, a journey of perhaps two to three hours, and we`ve been informed that he`s been there since around lunchtime today.
GRACE: So around lunchtime today for you. You`re five hours ahead, correct?
NASH: That`s correct. It`s just after 1:00 in the morning here.
GRACE: So he has been in questioning 12 hours, approximately 12 hours, correct?
NASH: I can`t confirm that he is actually still being questioned, but we believe he is still helping police with their inquiries here.
GRACE: Do you believe he`s still in the embassy?
NASH: Again, I wouldn`t like to speculate. I believe he will still be with U.S. detectives at this time, although I can`t confirm that at this moment.
GRACE: OK, Emily. Emily, do you know if he`s been spotted leaving the embassy yet?
NASH: As I said, I can`t confirm whether or not he is actually still in the embassy this evening. All we know is that the district attorney`s office has said no travel arrangements have been made for him, and nor would they expect any to be made.
GRACE: Well, let me rephrase my question, Emily. I know that he was spotted going into the U.S. embassy. To your knowledge, has he been spotted leaving the U.S. embassy yet?
NASH: To my knowledge, no.
GRACE: OK. Who was with him, Emily, do we know?
NASH: He was escorted by his father, Clifford (ph), who is a local councilor, which is a local politician here from Worksop, Nottinghamshire.
GRACE: When you say local councilor, does that mean he`s a lawyer, the father is a lawyer?
NASH: No, it`s a local politician.
GRACE: Oh, OK. Do you know, Emily -- I know that he was taken 10:00 AM this morning Great Britain time in an unmarked vehicle...
NASH: That`s correct.
GRACE: ... to the U.S. embassy for questioning. He is not under arrest. He was with his father, Clifford, a local politician, along with local police in the unmarked car. Was a lawyer with him, to our knowledge?
NASH: We`re not aware of a lawyer having been with him in the car. However, whether or not a lawyer joined him in the embassy is unclear at the moment.
GRACE: Emily, what can you tell us about his family there in Great Britain? Now we know his father, Clifford, is a local politician. What else can you tell us?
NASH: Well, it appears that Clifford lives with his wife, Mr. Entwistle`s mother Yvonne (ph), and he also has a younger brother, Russell (ph), who`s age 23. We know very little about the family. Since this tragic story broke earlier this week, they have kept themselves behind shut curtains in the family home, and obviously have been receiving a great deal of media attention.
GRACE: Emily Nash with us from Great Britain. She`s a reporter with "The Mirror." Emily, do you know of any travel arrangements for him to come home to the U.S.? The funeral for his wife and daughter are -- they`re both upcoming.
NASH: As I say, we`ve not been given any confirmation that that is the case. As far as we understand, the only development so far this evening is that he is meeting with U.S. detectives in the embassy. And I should stress that the U.S. embassy isn`t actually involved in the investigation. They`re just providing the facility for the questioning to take place.
GRACE: Right. Right. Well, he`s got until Wednesday. The funeral is set for his wife and 9-month-old baby girl on Wednesday. Maybe he`ll surprise us and jet home. With us from Great Britain, Emily Nash, reporter with "The Mirror." We were talking about Neil Entwistle, the husband and father who apparently took off from Logan airport to Heathrow in London, to his native home. His wife and little girl, 9-month-old daughter, found killed in repose, lying in their bed together at home. Emily, please stay with us.
Here is what the local elected DA had to say.
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COAKLEY: This afternoon, the medical examiner completed his autopsies on Rachel and Lillian Entwistle. The cause of death to the baby, as we indicated yesterday, is, in fact, a gunshot wound to the torso. The cause of death to the mother, however, is a little bit different from the visual examination of investigators indicated, and upon autopsy, the medical examiner determined that, in fact, she also suffered a gunshot wound to the head. He indicated that he believed that bullet to her head was the cause of death.
They were both in the bed. They were obviously close to each other, if you can imagine the positioning, because the baby was in front of the mother. So again, when they were discovered, they appeared to be in bed in somewhat a natural position. They did not appear to be victims of violence at that time.
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GRACE: And amazing reports tonight that dinner guests had come over to the Entwistle home for dinner on Saturday. No answer. Police were called. Police went into the home and miraculously did not find the bodies there in the bed, under the bedcovers. They only found the bodies the next day, on Sunday.
Joining me right now, Diane Dimond, investigative reporter. Diane, is that true? And what is the latest on the case?
DIANE DIMOND, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Yes, well, I don`t know what the British authorities are saying, but the Massachusetts authorities are very pointedly saying that this man is still a person of interest, not really a suspect but a person of interest.
You know, it`s one of the strangest things. He jets off to London, or England, rather, on Friday, sometime late on Friday, but on Saturday, they had plans to have a dinner party, as you indicated, Nancy, with a group of friends, but nobody calls them and cancels this dinner party. They come on Saturday, knock on the door. There`s no answer. They call her mother, the dead woman`s mother. She said, You know, I`m worried, too.
They call the police. The police go check. They find the house is empty, although the bed looks a little rumpled. They go back Sunday, same thing, check it out. Nothing happens. They go file a police report Sunday night at 5:00 PM.
Finally, the police say, You know what? Let`s go back a third time and check that house. Well, by that time, Nancy, they smelled the odor -- and you`re familiar with it -- of a decaying body, and it turned out there were two bodies in the bed, the very bed that they thought was simply unmade.
So whoever`s going to be up for this double murder, the defense is going to have a field day with this because there`s really one, two, three times the police were in that house, and the first two, they didn`t even find the bodies.
GRACE: Well, the defense could actually argue the bodies were not even there...
DIMOND: Exactly.
GRACE: ... by the time Entwistle left. Let`s look at the timeline, Diane Dimond. All right, the bodies of the mother and child found on Sunday. Police are in the home on Saturday. I get it. They were covered with a lot of blankets. They probably just looked in the room, didn`t see anything. But think about it, Diane. Entwistle leaves on Friday...
DIMOND: Right.
GRACE: ... which -- of course, Entwistle is not a suspect. He has been named a person of interest. But if nobody called these dinner guests, doesn`t that suggest to you that they were dead on Friday, and they laid there until they were discovered on Saturday?
DIMOND: Yes.
GRACE: I mean Sunday?
DIMOND: It could be. Or suddenly, he had to go back -- I`d like to know why, suddenly, he went back to his home country. I`d like to know why he would voluntarily tell the police -- he contacted the police and said, you know, I will talk to you, come to England, and they did. The Massachusetts detectives went there.
He`s never had a gun permit. There`s no marital discord here. But there`s some suspicious things, like why did he go? Why is he running not only a software porn -- software computer site but also a porn computer site? He doesn`t seem to have any real job on paper, Nancy. He`s been looking for a job. He`s an engineer, engineering background. Yet they have a home that they spent $2,500, $2,700...
GRACE: Whew!
DIMOND: ... a month on, and he drives a BMW. Where`s he getting that?
And then, forensically, why were the bodies positioned the way they were, lovingly wrapped in blankets? You know, from doing cases like this, Nancy, that indicates that somebody who once loved these people, who, in death, covers them up nicely in a loving sort of bizarre gesture.
GRACE: You`re absolutely correct, Diane Dimond. We`ve seen it in many, many cases.
To Medical examiner Dr. Jonathan Arden, an expert in his field. Dr. Arden, how much evidence have we lost from the bodies lying there possibly from Friday, sometime in the morning or afternoon, until Sunday because police didn`t see them?
DR. JONATHAN ARDEN, MEDICAL EXAMINER: Well, this is, of course, going to be one of the big sticking points. What was happening? What didn`t they find? What is missing now? The physical evidence, if we are lucky, has not been particularly altered or destroyed, although, as you`ve already accounted for, you had a parade of people going in and out of this place on several days in a row. That`s not going to do any good for maintaining evidence and safeguarding evidence.
Hopefully, because she and the baby are under the covers, maybe the most important evidence is what they didn`t touch, the covers, the clothing, the bodies. Maybe we`re lucky and the physical evidence hasn`t been critically altered there.
GRACE: But at this juncture, Dr. Arden, is there any way to establish time of death, since so much time passed since the bodies were found?
ARDEN: Well, time of death is always a troubling issue in terms of estimating it. You never establish it, you estimate it. And I think we do have something going on here that is very telling, though. You have Sunday, when the police come back, for the first time, now they detect the odor. OK. Now we`re starting to move along the path of post-mortem changes, and we may be looking at a situation where you have some evidence that you can start correlating with a timeframe.
And actually, what I`m thinking about is that this is the kind of thing that sounds very much like the two, maybe two to three-day timeframe. This is probably very consistent with the timeframe after she was last seen alive and around the time that he just runs off to England. It really is not sounding consistent with the kind of thing as if they had been killed Sunday, they had been killed one day before.
GRACE: Right. You know what? You took into account something I did not, and that is the progression of the decomposition of the bodies to emit an odor. It`s simply from gases accumulating within the body and the decomposition of the body, and that begins at a certain time, based on the temperature and other conditions. That`s something you may be able to pin down.
Everybody, we will all be right back. Joining us, Diane Dimond here in the States, and across the ocean, Emily Nash, a reporter with "The Mirror." Is Neil Entwistle headed home? His wife and baby`s funerals on Wednesday. Again, he is not an official suspect. He is an official person of interest.
To tonight`s "Case Alert." We are still on the August disappearance of 64-year-old grandmother Nita Mayo. After lunch with a friend in Sonora, California, Mayo heads back home to Hawthorne, Nevada. She never made it, Nita`s car found at an overlook off the highway near Pinecrest, California. Tonight, the reward $5,000. If you have info on this grandmother, Nita Mayo, please call the Carole Sund Carrington Foundation toll-free, 888-813- 8389.
And tonight, everybody, we ask for your help. Sean Keel, 34-year-old father of two, mysteriously murdered a block from his San Francisco home, expensive rims stolen off his car. Keel leaves behind a wife and two little girls. If you have information on the murder of this man, Sean Keel, call 415-575-4444.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Neil Entwistle left his parents` home about 10:00 AM local time. Massachusetts investigators, including two state police officers and two Hopkinton detectives, were waiting for him at the American embassy, according to sources. The exact time of death of Rachel and Lillian Rose has not been determined, but investigators believe Neil Entwistle went to Boston`s Logan airport, leaving his car in the parking structure during the same 48-hour time period that his family was killed.
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GRACE: Welcome back, everybody. Is Neil Entwistle headed home to the U.S.? The funerals for his wife and daughter, just 9 months old, will be Wednesday.
Well, it`s time to unleash the lawyers. Let`s go to Renee Rockwell. Renee, it`s trial 101. I`m talking about extradition, Renee. It`s not a difficult process, but how confusing will it be if we bring in an overseas jurisdiction? I`m not talking about Georgia to New York, California to Nevada. We`re talking extraditing from Great Britain, if this guy becomes a suspect.
RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, he can absolutely sit there and say, I killed both of them, and they can`t just slap the handcuffs on him, put him on an airplane and bring him back. There`s formal proceedings that have to be done to actually bring him back. He`s going to has to waive extradition, if it`s going to be an immediate process. Otherwise, it`s going to be a long, drawn-out process.
Interestingly enough, Massachusetts does not have the death penalty. If he was a suspect and Massachusetts had the death penalty, England would not send him back.
GRACE: Well, let`s go to Lauren Lake. Lauren Lake, she`s dead on about that. In the EU, European Union, no DP, no DP in Great Britain. So if this were a death penalty case, forget about extradition unless the jurisdiction agreed to waive the death penalty. There`s not going to be a death penalty, even if this guy does develop into a suspect, so what possibly could be a hold-up with extradition?
LAUREN LAKE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It`s all the processing, Nancy. Just as Renee said, it`s all the process. He can waive and come back immediately and meet his fate, or he can just let the system play out and try to stay there as long as he possibly can. What I find interesting from the defense perspective is that since he`s over in England, if he wanted to flee, he could have got out of there and be God knows where by now.
GRACE: Well, what do you call flying from Logan all the way to Heathrow?
LAKE: But my point is, he could have got out even out of England. He could be gone, if he wanted to be.
GRACE: Well, here`s the deal. Here`s the deal. Let`s go to forensic psychologist Dr. Michael Nuccitelli. Talking about he could have left but he didn`t, what are you people talking about? The guy leaves his wife and baby, they`re dead at home, and flies across the ocean to Great Britain. That doesn`t qualify as leaving?
DR. MICHAEL NUCCITELLI, FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, I don`t know necessarily about leaving. I mean, once again, we`re assuming that -- we don`t know whether or not he did it or not. I mean, if he did -- from what we know, we don`t know of any previous criminal record, any previous psychiatric history, no known history of violence. To commit such an act would atrocious, and it would also be out of the ordinary.
GRACE: It happens every day, Doctor. It happens every day. Remember a little case called Scott Peterson? He didn`t have a criminal history, either.
NUCCITELLI: Well, that`s true, too, but he was also having an active affair and he was a sociopath, so...
GRACE: Hey, log onto this guy`s e-mail, his pyramid Web site, where he`s got the naked ladies, Doctor. Let`s take a look at that at the commercial break. We`ll all be right back.
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GRACE: Nine-month-old Lillian Rose Entwistle, her mother, Rachel Entwistle, just 27, both found dead in their home, apparently sleeping when they were shot with a .22-caliber weapon, then lovingly covered up with blankets and left. Her husband now located in Great Britain, his native land.
Let`s go straight to former prosecutor Gerry Leone. He was on the Louise Woodward out of Boston, as well as shoe bomber case, Richard Reid. Welcome, Gerry. Tell me, can what he says in Great Britain come in against him if he becomes a suspect and is tried here in the U.S.?
GERRY LEONE, FORMER PROSECUTOR: It can, but the investigators need to comply with all of the, you know, terms and conditions, regulations that they would if they were in Massachusetts. So as long as they`re abiding by the law as it will be utilized in Massachusetts, then those statements can come in.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I walked into work this morning, the staff was saying, "Have you heard this? And have you heard that?" And what they were saying is he`s a very intelligent young man. He did well at Valley School. He did his GCSEs and a-levels here and went on to York University, so he`s an intelligent, articulate young man who knew what he wanted and has got clear ideas about his life.
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GRACE: Before we take to you the case of the missing nurse, let`s go back to the story on Neil Entwistle, his wife, Rachel, and little girl, 9- month-old Lillian Rose, found dead in their own home.
Straight back to Diane Dimond, investigative reporter. Diane, I know he`s not a suspect. I know he`s not under arrest. But as of right now, we believe that he has been under questioning for 12 hours.
It`s now about 1:00 a.m. there in Great Britain, and there are no reports that he has left the U.S. embassy. What can you tell me, again, about this timetable? And what do you know about him in the neighborhood?
DIMOND: Well, you know, they`d only lived in this new house that cost about $2,700 a month for about 10 days. So no one in the neighborhood really reports much about them, no fights, no marital discord, no screaming in the driveway with each other.
I was interested in that piece of sound that you just ran there about him being such an intelligent, well-mannered young man.
I have to ask the question: If he had absolutely nothing to do with this, why isn`t he on the first plane home? I`m sure he`s got a lawyer who`s telling him to be careful, and that`s smart, but if he has had absolutely nothing to do with this and knows nothing about it, hired no one to do this for him, why doesn`t he get on a plane, go immediately back with the detectives from Massachusetts, and say, "Here," you know, "strap me up to a lie detector test. What can I do to help?"
GRACE: And what do we know about these Web sites, Diane?
DIMOND: Well, we know that one of them was to sell computer software and was very successful, had great feedback. You know, they put the comments on, to say whether it was good service or bad service or whatnot. And it was very positive feedback, until January.
And in the new year, there were, oh, more than a dozen, about 16, negative comments about his company, all of a sudden taking money and not providing the goods, and big complaints, so much so that eBay took him off the eBay site.
So they checked in and found, apparently, that there was enough negative there to get rid of him. But when you click onto another one of the Web sites apparently run by this man, it takes you into -- well, it was labeled a scheme, a scam, make $6,000 a month with adult entertainment sites. It`s porn.
And so now how long he`s been doing that, I`m not sure, but you know, you could just say the word porn and Internet and it`s got a pretty negative connotation, Nancy.
GRACE: Back to forensic psychologist Dr. Michael Nuccitelli. You made the difference between this and the Peterson case, because Peterson was having at least one affair that we know of.
OK, let`s look at what we know. They`ve been in a new home for 10 days with about a $3,000 monthly nut to crack every month. Here`s a guy who is welching online. You saw those listings we just showed you. And do I have to say Internet porn?
All right. Want to reassess, Doctor?
NUCCITELLI: Well, no. First and foremost, I don`t want to sit here and defend Internet pornography. But it is a multi-billion-dollar industry, and not everybody that`s involved in the pornography industry, particularly on the Internet, are not sociopaths, they`re not criminals.
That being said, I`m certainly not defending it. But once again, as a forensic psychologist...
GRACE: Believe me, Doctor, if every man in this country that logged onto Internet porn...
NUCCITELLI: Correct.
GRACE: ... was a sociopath, the jails would be even fuller than they are now. OK, that`s not where I`m going. I`m talking about this guy.
NUCCITELLI: About this guy. And once again, as a psychologist -- and when you`re doing evaluations to assess criminal behavior, you look at past behavior, because the basic dogma is, is past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.
And up until this point, we have no past history of criminal behavior, psychiatric history, no known violent history. And when you don`t have a past history of that, you have to take a look at the individual and say, "Do they have the proclivity to commit such a heinous act?"
GRACE: You know what? I`m just sitting here making a list off the top of my head about multiple murders that we`ve covered in the past. There was Rabbi Neulander, a young man we`re covering right now out of Texas, Cody Posey, Michael Peterson, the novelist, the list goes on and on and on of people. Dr. Richard Sharpe, Kurt Grightender (ph), all these people commit murders with no previous history.
NUCCITELLI: Well, and you`re correct, Nancy. But, you know, you have to look at laws of probability, not to say that past behavior is always going to predict future behavior, but that`s a strong piece that you have to take a look at. I mean, obviously, there`s people that fall outside of the box, and you have people that -- go right ahead.
GRACE: I got you, and I agree with you. Then, Dr. Nuccitelli, give me all of your forensic psychologist powers and tell me why this guy isn`t on the first plane home? His wife and baby are dead.
NUCCITELLI: Well, that would lead you -- I mean, that certainly is -- you know, that says a lot. I mean, I would have to tend to agree, not that I`m defending this man, because certainly I would be on the first plane, but I have to imagine his family and attorney out there is advising him that would it be in his own best interests to not go back to the States at this time.
Because you`re correct, Nancy. I mean, it`s obviously -- you know, if he`s making this decision on his own, you don`t have to be a psychologist. It`s horrid that he`s not going back.
GRACE: Here is what a co-worker had to say.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The allegations that are being proffered by the American authorities have struck home, really, here. We were -- the staff were really concerned to hear that this sort of thing could possibly be going on, but they are only allegations at this stage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s devastating to the entire community. And she was on the National Honor Society. She was a peer mediator. She was a peer tutor. She was a peer counselor. She also was a stalwart on our track team.
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GRACE: And most important, she was mother to that little girl, nine- month-old Lillian Rose.
Back to former prosecutor Gary Leone. He handled the Louise Woodward, the nanny murder trial there in Boston. He also handled the shoe bomber -- everybody, remember Richard Reid? Eek.
Gary, we keep hearing he`s not a suspect, he`s not a suspect, he`s not a suspect. Fine! But don`t they always say that? They said that about Scott Peterson.
LEONE: Well, as you know, Nancy, there are two reasons why you label somebody a person of interest and not a suspect or a target. One is legal, and one is ethical.
On the legal side of things, you don`t want to label anybody prematurely, because as you know, when the litigation develops -- and this is a very experienced district attorney. She knows that any public statements she makes could come back during the course of the litigation, especially if it turns out that it isn`t Entwistle or there are other people involved.
Ethically speaking, you know, when you`re making extra-judicial public statements and you`re a district attorney, as you know, you have to be very careful not to heighten condemnation of people.
GRACE: You know what, Gary? You`re dead-on.
And there`s yet another reason, Renee Rockwell, that you don`t want to label someone an official suspect before they really are. Think about the trial. You`re in Atlanta. Dare I say the name Richard Jewell, who was outed as a suspect when the FBI were clawing through his trash one morning?
ROCKWELL: And all of the lawsuits? And all the lawsuits?
GRACE: In the Olympic bombing, it turned out to be Eric Rudolph, and it ruins your case down the road when you get the real suspect, because the defense has a field day. Explain.
ROCKWELL: Absolutely, Nancy, but let me digress a little bit, because here`s a guy -- there`s really no motive. Because the police missed the bodies perhaps on the first two days, you might be able to argue as a defense attorney that he didn`t have the opportunity, if we actually know when he left the country.
We may not find the gun that was used. But what`s happening now, Nancy, is he`s talking, and talking, and talking, and talking. And I can tell you, he does not have a lawyer advising him, because somebody would tell him to shut up and not say anything.
GRACE: You know, to Lauren Lake, that is very often a prosecutor`s best friend, the defendant and all of his statements, trying to talk himself out of a mess. Everything he says, even if it`s just an inconsistency, can be used at trial, Lauren.
LAKE: Exactly. And this is what I was talking to you about earlier, when I said if he wanted to flee and be long gone, he could be long gone where we couldn`t find him. And if he really was ready to lawyer up and not say a word, that`s exactly what his lawyer would tell him to do. So he`s out there running his mouth, and he needs to be quiet.
GRACE: What lawyer is that you`re talking about? He doesn`t have a lawyer with him, Lauren.
LAKE: No, I`m saying he needs to lawyer up. That`s my point. You see, he has not lawyered up, meaning he`s there talking freely. His lawyer would tell him no way, do not do that.
GRACE: Very big thank you to Emily Nash, reporter with "The Mirror" there in Great Britain.
When we come back, we`re going to be asking for your help, a missing young girl, a nursing student. We`re going to profile that case when we get back.
Very quickly to tonight`s "Trial Tracking." In a very rare move here in the U.S., prosecutors announce they will seek the death penalty against a woman, 26-year-old Monique Berkley, accused of killing her husband and Navy reservist, Paul Berkley, just days after he comes home from active duty in the Middle East.
Berkley`s lover, a young man, Andrew Canty, and his friend, Latwon Johnson, also charged. Investigators believe the three lured Paul Berkley to a Raleigh, North Carolina, park and murdered him. Alleged motive? Insurance and, of course, a love triangle.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Fred Murray wants to look at 2,500 documents, documents containing e-mails Maura sent the day of her disappearance, to information on what police found in her car the night of her accident two years ago, details Murray believes could solve this mystery.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell me what did you, tell me what you didn`t do, and I`ll try to go back and see what you didn`t do and take a fresh look at it and start it all over. It gives us -- it gives me my best hope. It gives me my only hope.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): Murray`s attorney claims the family has a right to the files under the state right-to-know law.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her family knows her better than any other party. A second set of eyes looking at information that is clearly nonexempt may ultimately lead to locating her.
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GRACE: After two years of hoping and praying, a father goes on the offense in the legal system. Two years ago, a beautiful young nursing student went missing after a minor car crash. She ran into a tree. Well, police got there just minutes after the crash and she is gone, never seen since.
Straight out to Gary Lindsley. He is a reporter with "The Caledonian Record."
Gary, are you with me? I know we`ve got problems with your IFB. Can you hear me?
GARY LINDSLEY, REPORTER, "CALEDONIAN RECORD": Yes, I can, Nancy.
GRACE: Great. Give me the facts, Gary.
LINDSLEY: Well, as it turns out, February 9th, somewhere around 7:00 or 7:30 p.m., Maura was headed on Route 112 in Haverhill, New Hampshire, and she had the minor car accident.
A bus driver came upon the scene, talked to her, asked her if she needed help. She said, no, she`d already called AAA. He went back to the house and called police.
Between the time he went back to the house and called police, a matter of seven to nine minutes, she was gone. No one`s ever seen her since.
GRACE: Was there a record of her calling AAA?
LINDSLEY: No, there wasn`t. She had not made a call.
GRACE: So she didn`t call AAA?
LINDSLEY: Right. That was a very -- it`s a very, very rural area. And cell coverage is very hard in some of those areas.
GRACE: Very rural area...
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GRACE: ... so you said "isolated route." How many people? I mean, this is not a very busy road. How many people would have been going along that road to snatch her?
LINDSLEY: Not too many, because once you get up past the crash scene, there are seasonal residences between the crash scene and Woodstock, New Hampshire.
GRACE: To Diane Dimond, investigative reporter, what else can you tell us to supplement Gary`s report?
DIMOND: Well, it was two years ago, right before Valentine`s Day actually -- and this young woman, who was a nursing student, she`d also been a cadet at West Point, a girl with her head on straight, you would think -- e-mailed her professors and said, "I`m going to be gone for a week because there`s been a death in the family."
Well, there had been no death in her family. She left the University at Amherst in Massachusetts. And instead of going home, she headed north up to Vermont and New Hampshire. And that`s where this accident occurred.
It struck me, Nancy, and everything that I`ve researched about this case, she has this accident. Within 10 minutes, the police are there. She`s gone. And there`s snow all around her car, but there`s no footsteps. It`s like a "Twilight Zone" alien abduction thing. I mean, where did she go?
She had diamond jewelry in the car that her boyfriend had given her, a bottle of liquor, some clothes, a book, you know, just the normal things, like she was just going to go home. But she went the opposite way.
To me, it`s just heart-wrenching to see that father asking for these documents from the court. I want to look at the police report, he said, so my private detectives can take over. And they won`t let him do it. A judge has now said, no, we will not turn those documents over to you. It could compromise the investigation.
GRACE: To Barbara McDougal and Patti Davidson -- they are joining us tonight. They are cousins of Maura Murray. Ladies, thank you for being with us.
Barbara, what did -- yes, thanks, Liz -- Barbara, what did you guys hope to gain from these documents you were in court fighting for?
BARBARA MCDOUGAL, MAURA MURRAY`S COUSIN: Well, we were hoping that there might be information in them that the police would overlook as meaning nothing but the family it may mean something to us, to have a different avenue to go down in searching for Maura.
GRACE: Right. Yes, it`s been two long years.
To Patti, Patti, what do you believe law enforcement has missed in this investigation? Obviously something.
PATTI DAVIDSON, MAURA MURRAY`S COUSIN: I believe they waited too long to get a search team together. They waited 39 hours, and it should have been done immediately after they went to the scene and found her not there.
GRACE: Now, I know that you have joined together with the Molly Bish Foundation. We had Molly`s parents on for a full hour around Christmas. Their daughter taken and killed.
Joining us now, Tom Shamshack, P.I. on the Murray search. He`s also working with the Molly Bish Foundation. What`s your take on this, Tom?
TOM SHAMSHACK, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR IN MAURA`S CASE: Good evening, Nancy. John and Maggie send their love.
GRACE: Thank you. Thank you.
SHAMSHACK: All right. The investigative team, consisting of a dozen retired law enforcement investigators, is doing three things. We`re looking to do investigative research on what has been written in the public domain. We`re conducting interviews of percipient witnesses. And we`re conducting a scene investigation, looking at the crash dynamics, and then again looking in the area, what possibly could have happened here.
GRACE: Renee, what else do you know about it?
ROCKWELL: To me, Nancy?
GRACE: Yes.
ROCKWELL: From what I can say, Nancy, is here is another situation where a family has had to hire a private detective. Why? Resources. In 2004, there were over 46,000 people missing in the U.S., 99 in New Hampshire. It`s just a situation where I don`t know why the police department would have hid that or prevented them from getting those documents.
GRACE: Well, let`s look at the facts. No footsteps in the snow to indicate where she had gone. The police got there 10 minutes later, no sign of her. She had said there was a death in the family, told her professor she was leaving, no death in the family, and she went a different way. This was a minor crash; she went right into a tree.
Tonight, 603-271-2663, help us find Maura Murray. The reward up to $40,000 tonight.
GRACE: Very quickly to tonight`s "All-Points Bulletin." FBI, law enforcement across the country on the lookout for Joe East, in connection with the `94 murder of former girlfriend Tamara Parrish.
East is 42, 5`6", 200 pounds, black hair, brown eyes. If you have info, call the FBI, 215-418-4000.
Local news next for some of you, but we`ll all be right back. And remember, live coverage next week of a 16-year-old New Mexico boy on trial for the shooting death of his whole family, 3:00 to 5:00 Eastern, Court TV.
Please stay with us tonight as we stop to remember Captain Sean P. Sims, just 32, an American hero.
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GRACE: What a week in America`s courtrooms. Take a look at the stories and, more important, the people who touched all of our lives.
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GRACE: The Massachusetts murder of a sleeping mother and nine-month- old baby girl rock a New England town. And tonight, the investigation goes international. Father and husband, Neil Entwistle took off to his native England.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is not considered a suspect, and he`s a person of interest. The reason the police are going there right now is to collect that kind of evidence, to change the theory there, so they can extradite him and try to get a stronger argument to bring him back to the United States.
GRACE: Can the case of Natalee Holloway be solved nearly one year later? Tiny steps, baby steps, but could they have a giant impact?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`ve got some big, old jumper cables attached to this case, because it`s got new life again.
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: There`s been some homes in some of those students` statements. What they want to do is see if they can go through here, fill in the holes.
GRACE: It`s judgment day. The Vermont judge who let a child molester walk free, no hard jail time, is on the hot seat himself, doing a 180 in court today. Judge Edward Cashman upping the sentence to three years, but is that enough?
Let`s go to the star chamber (ph).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was missing was punishment. Who`s speaking out for this little girl?
GRACE: Renowned forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee goes aboard the Brilliance of the Seas searching for the clues in the disappearance of missing honeymooner George Smith.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re just hoping for answers. We`re just very hopeful that Dr. Lee finds out some information in the mere two hours he was given by Royal Caribbean to get on the ship.
HENRY LEE, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: I did find something, OK, but I cannot tell you what we found. We did find something.
GRACE: And man in his prime snuffed out, murdered in cold blood. A San Francisco car-jacking. Two men killed 34-year-old Sean Keel. His wife and daughter want your help, and so do we.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They shouldn`t have done what they did to my husband.
GRACE: Phone messages left by a 4-year-old little girl. Her name, Vanessa. Her father now just a statistic.
VANESSA KEEL, DAUGHTER OF MURDERED FATHER: Hello, Daddy. I want you to come home right now because I don`t feel good. Bye. I love you.
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GRACE: Thank you to all of my guests. But our biggest thanks is to you for being with us, inviting all of us into your homes.
Coming up, headlines from all around the world. I`m Nancy Grace signing off again for tonight and for this week. See you right here Monday night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.
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