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Shot on Tape; Bush and Health Care; Seducing Computers

Aired February 01, 2006 - 10:59   ET

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DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's take a look at what's happening right "Now in the News."
Congress is still trying to get to the bottom of the federal government's slow response after Hurricane Katrina. A Senate committee opened hearings this morning. Among those testifying, New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin. You saw that live here on CNN.

As we continue to look at live pictures, we will get a live report from Andrea Koppel coming up in just a moment.

To the Middle East. Thousands of protesters and Israeli security forces clashed today as Israel clamped down on an illegal settlement near Ramallah in the West Bank. Dozens of demonstrators were injured. A member of the Israeli parliament says the government will no longer show restraint toward illegal settlements and protesters.

On the heels of the State of the Union Address, President Bush is on another road trip trying to drive home some of the key things from his speech. The president is scheduled to speak in about two hours at the Grand Ole Opry House in Nashville, Tennessee. We'll have a preview live from Nashville just ahead.

In Illinois, a plane crash caught on tape. The surveillance video shows a twin-engine plane slamming to the ground and exploding. All four people aboard the aircraft were killed in Monday's crash near Chicago. Investigators are still looking for the cause.

The body of civil rights matriarch Coretta Scott King is back in Atlanta. The 78-year-old Mrs. King died Monday night at a medical clinic in Mexico. Doctors there are now saying that Mrs. King was battling ovarian cancer and that she died of respiratory failure.

Her body arrived home on the first day of Black History Month. No funeral arrangements have yet been announced.

Good morning. Welcome to CNN LIVE TODAY. Let's check some of the time around the world.

Just after 10:00 a.m. in Nashville, Tennessee; just after 8:00 a.m. in San Bernardino, California.

From CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Daryn Kagan.

We begin in Chino, California. A police shooting there caught on tape. The FBI is analyzing the grainy video today. Agents hope to decipher dialogue between a deputy and a passenger from a speeding car. Many say the shooting, which you are about to see, appears unprovoked.

Here now, CNN's Chris Lawrence.

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CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The home video is dark and grainy, but this much is clear, Airman Elio Carrion survives six months of duty in Iraq and got shot in his own hometown.

DEPUTY: Get up.

ELIO CARRION, SHOT BY DEPUTY: OK.

DEPUTY: Get up.

CARRION: I'm going to get up.

LAWRENCE: Carrion got shot in his chest, leg, and shoulder, but he survived. Now the FBI has been called in to analyze the tape and find out what provoked the deputy to fire. Officials say the deputy was chasing this car before it crashed into a tree. Carrion was just the passenger. He's the one on the ground telling the deputy I'm on your side.

CARRION: I mean you no harm.

I served more time than you in the police.

In the military, OK.

LAWRENCE: Now there's all kinds of background noise on the tape, and sometimes silence. Dr. Bruce Berg is a police training expert who says the deputy may have mangled the instruction to shut up and get down.

CARRION: I'm going to get up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's not clear who is the miscommunicator. It's not clear if the deputy has actually misspoken, which is possible, given his state of probable tension, and anger and adrenaline. in the circumstances; or if he spoke correctly, but he's misheard.

CARRION: I mean you no harm.

DEPUTY: Shut the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) up. You don't get up.

NEIGHBOR: You told him to get up.

LAWRENCE: Carrion himself is a security officer in the Air Force, and he was supposed to report back to his unit today. Authorities say it's unfair to make any kind of judgment now without knowing all of the facts, but they placed the deputy on leave until the FBI finishes its investigation.

Chris Lawrence, CNN, Los Angeles.

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KAGAN: Well, we can add this for you: generally, police are allowed to shoot when they believe it will prevent a death or serious injury. Is that the case here?

Rod Bernsen is on the phone from Camarillo, California. He is a former L.A. police officer.

Rod, hello.

ROD BERNSEN, FMR. L.A. POLICE OFFICER: Good morning, Daryn.

KAGAN: From what you've seen on the tape, does it look like protocol was facing?

BERNSEN: You know, Daryn, the first thing that needs to be talked about here is that this tragic situation would not have happened if the guy driving the car had simply pulled over and stopped when the deputy tried to stop him.

KAGAN: Well, that's true. But this is the guy in the passenger seat. This isn't the driver.

BERNSEN: Exactly.

KAGAN: So he's kind of along for the ride.

BERNSEN: Yes, exactly. And had that not happened, then this tragedy would not have happened.

Just on the face of it, this thing looks terrible. It truly does. The expert that you had on during the package there spoke about the miscommunication.

This deputy's by himself in a dark area, his adrenaline is pumping, he's by himself. It could have very well been just a horrible, horrible accident.

What the FBI is going to have to try and determine and the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department is going to have to try and determine, is there malice here? Did this deputy just panic and open fire, or was there something malicious on the part of the deputy? That will all come out as part of the investigation.

KAGAN: So if it's just some miscommunication the benefit of the doubt goes to the deputy?

BERNSEN: Not necessarily, Daryn. It really depends on the totality of all the circumstance here.

If this deputy, even if he did just simply make a mistake, he still could lose his job. The question is, was there a malice here? Did he -- did he deliberately and with aforethought shoot this young man? Then he's facing criminal charges and perhaps even civil rights charges.

KAGAN: Yes, I was going to say, it's much more serious than just losing your job. He could be facing federal civil rights charges here.

With videotape like this, helpful or hurtful? Always with the situations we're only seeing a slice of what happened.

BERNSEN: It's very important, it's a very critical piece of evidence. But remember, it's just a part of what happened.

There were a number of witnesses, both people who heard things and people who saw things. There's the driver of the car, there's the deputy himself. There's a whole -- not to mention the forensic evidence as well. You saw some crime scene investigators going over that.

Where was the deputy when he shot? Where was the suspect when he was shot? Where was the suspect shot? What are his wounds?

All of this will be factored into the situation. But Daryn, we can't really skip over the fact that this tragedy, this young man who survived in Iraq who ended up being shot by a deputy sheriff, would not have happened if the guy driving the car that he was riding in had simply stopped and did not try to run from the police.

KAGAN: Yes, I'm sorry, Rod, but I think that's a stronger point if it was the driver who was involved in this shooting, because this guy was the passenger.

But I want to ask you from a -- from a firsthand standpoint what it would be like. You mentioned some of the -- some of what was taking place here, what it would feel like to be by yourself under pressure like that in a dark area. Should he have call for backup?

BERNSEN: Well, he probably was in the process. The pursuit was relatively short, and obviously there were units already rolling to back him up.

Typically, in patrol situations we have one-officer cars. Any time they go on a call, a second car is automatically assigned to it. In this situation, if he's broadcasting he's in pursuit, then the other cars are already moving towards his way.

What's going through his mind, he is scared. He is frightened. Traffic stops are dangerous.

Why is this person running from the police? Is there a stolen car? Are they murder suspects? Did they just rob somebody? Are they armed?

All of this is going through this cop's head while he's trying to control his car at a high speed, broadcast at the same time, then this comes abruptly to an end. KAGAN: Well, ironically, the victim would only know too well what that's like from his time in Iraq.

BERNSEN: Well, the suspect, too.

KAGAN: All of the questions.

BERNSEN: The suspect, too. And he's saying, "I'm a security police officer."

KAGAN: Yes.

BERNSEN: So maybe the deputy never even heard that. There's something called tunnel syndrome, where the only thing that that cop is seeing is what's going on directly in front of him. He's not even hearing things he's so jacked up emotionally that that factors into it as well.

KAGAN: Well, a lot clearly went wrong on that night. Rob Bernsen, thanks for your take...

BERNSEN: All right, Daryn.

KAGAN: ... on what we see on the videotape, calling in from Camarillo, California. Appreciate that.

Also in southern California, new developments today in that shooting spree at a mail sorting facility. The Associated Press quoting police as saying the shooter may have killed her one-time neighbor before she went to the postal facility.

Postal officials say the shooter, Jennifer Sanmarco, left her position at the plant two and a half years ago on a psychological disability. Police say she gunned down five former co-workers before taking her own life. Another person is in critical condition.

Police removed Sanmarco in from the sorting facility in 2003 due to what they called bizarre behavior.

President Bush is take the themes from his State of the Union speech on the road, and most of those who watched the president's address gave him good reviews. Nearly half of the respondents in a CNN-"USA Today"-Gallup poll said their overall reaction to the speech was very positive, 27 percent say it was somewhat positive, 23 percent had a negative reaction.

The president will focus on his plans to combat the rising cost of health care during a speech next hour. He left Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland just a short time ago, heading to Nashville.

Our National Correspondent Bob Franken is there with a preview of the president's remarks.

Bob, hello.

BOB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning. The president is coming to a city that bills itself as the health care capital of the United States. There are almost 300 companies here that are health service providers on either a national or international scale.

He'll be making his speech right here at the Grand Ole Opry auditorium. That is a speech that probably can be described as State of the Union, Take Two.

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FRANKEN (voice-over): The place to watch the president's speech last night was a bar in the sprawling Opryland Resort, which was definitely friendly territory.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he did a wonderful job. He's very well-spoken. I think he had much improvements in his speaking abilities over the past few years.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think he came out hard, and I think his points on Iraq were right on, but I think, more importantly, on the whole NSA thing, I think I totally support where he's at on the so- called wiretapping. I think he's right on the money.

FRANKEN: While Nashville is a Democratic city, the president will be accompanied today by the Republican Senate majority leader, Bill Frist of Nashville, who is leaving the Senate and leaving behind a tough race with the Democrats for his seat.

But today's venue is a Bush-friendly place.

ANITA BOSWELL, NASHVILLE RESIDENT: This president, during his second term, have faced some major obstacles, and with the State of the Union being as it is, then I think that, overall, he has done as best as one could under the circumstances.

FRANKEN: But in many parts of the country, this is a president who sparks high emotion, for and against.

Recording star Vince Gill, who serves as president of the Country Music Hall of Fame here, is convinced that smart performers keep opinions to themselves.

VINCE GILL, COUNTRY SINGER: This day and age, you make a statement and you can be, you know, you can be persecuted for it.

FRANKEN: In his speech last night, the president called for a debate to be conducted in a civil tone.

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FRANKEN: And the presidential call for a debate in a civil tone, Daryn, is something that we hear just about every year, and just about every year we find out it's going to be ignored.

KAGAN: Bob Franken live from Nashville. Thank you.

CNN will have live coverage of the president's speech from the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville. It is set to begin at 12:50 p.m. Eastern, 9:50 a.m. Pacific.

The trial of Saddam Hussein resumed in Iraq today, but Hussein and four of his seven co-defendants were no-shows. The defense team also refused to attend.

Defense attorneys claim the new chief judge presiding over the trial is biased, and they're calling for him to be removed. Today was the first day the court has met since the proceedings descended into chaos last Sunday. The session ended after several hours of testimony.

A State Department official says U.S. troops accidentally fired on a Canadian diplomat's car in Baghdad. No one was injured. The military says the car failed to slow down while approaching a U.S. convoy yesterday in the so-called Green Zone. It wasn't immediately clear whether the Canadian ambassador to Iraq was in the vehicle.

Both U.S. and Canadian officials are investigating.

There's word that two ABC journalists wound by a roadside bomb in Iraq continue to show progress after arriving back in the U.S. Cameraman Doug Vogt and news anchor Bob Woodruff are being treated at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland.

ABC said today that Woodruff is slowly being brought out of sedation. His brother is hopeful about his recovery.

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DAVID WOODRUFF, BOB WOODRUFF'S BROTHER: The doctor has continuously said that, you know, the signs that they're showing -- especially, you know, Doug is in better shape than Bob -- but the signs that Bob is showing are as good as they can expect in this type of injury. And we've heard that not only in Germany, but here now, too.

So I think that's -- I mean, that gives us all great hope.

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KAGAN: Both Woodruff and Vogt suffered head wounds and other serious injuries. They were flown back to the U.S. from Germany yesterday.

Coming up this hour, they call it the Kama Sutra. All right. Now that I have your attention, stick around to find out how to protect your computer files from this dangerous worm.

Plus, the winter Olympics are just days away, and sportsmanship and security are top priorities in Italy. We'll take a check on that with a visit to Torino. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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KAGAN: Online cruisers seduced by an e-mail offering sexy pictures from the Kama Sutra. You might be in for a big surprise on Friday. That's when the so-called Kama Sutra worm is set to make you pay for taking a peek.

Our Technology Correspondent Daniel Sieberg joins us with this latest computer virus.

DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: Imagine people falling for that.

KAGAN: A little embarrassing on top of everything.

SIEBERG: A little embarrassing.

This is really what we call an old school worm because it's promising people these pornographic pictures, and people are falling for them. About 600,000 infections so far worldwide. So fairly serious.

In a minute we'll get to some tips on what you can do to protect yourself. But first, we want to show you why this particular worm is spreading so quickly.

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SIEBERG (voice over): It's the oldest trick on the screen, just promise sex, sexy pictures or schoolgirl fantasies gone bad and watch the mouse clicks all over the globe.

MERRICK FURST, COMPUTER EXPERT: There are a lot of people who are going to be very unhappy on the 3rd of February. This virus will wipe out all their word process documents, all their pictures, all of their worksheets.

SIEBERG: Computer security companies like Internet Security Systems report the Kama Sutra worm has been spreading since January 16 in e-mails with subject lines like "Hot Movie," "Crazy Illegal Sex," and "Give Me a Kiss." But when users click the attachments on those e-mails, they didn't get any dirty pictures. They did unknowingly infect their computers.

The malicious code burrows deep within the Windows operating system. And on Friday the worm goes to work. It will overwrite and corrupt spreadsheets, family pictures and financial statements, just about everything. The good news, there's still time to fix things.

ALAIN SERGILE, INTERNET SECURITY EXPERT: From a security standpoint, users should definitely have some type of antivirus software on there. They should have some type of intrusion prevention which -- which basically protects them from worms, self-propagating worms which antivirus can't protect you against. And there are some free applications out there as well that allow you to scan your computer for spyware, for zombie-type of softwares that have been installed on machines.

SIEBERG: And as an important form of insurance, now is a very important time to back up your most valuable computer files on a CD or a DVD so this worm doesn't leave holes that can't be filled.

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SIEBERG: Now, part of what makes this worm so tricky, Daryn, is that the subject line that you get with the e-mail changes all of the time. So it's hard to detect it. In some cases, hard to see it.

We have some examples of what the subject lines might look like. You see "Give Me a Kiss," "Miss Lebanon 2006" -- I don't know where they come up with these -- "School Girl Fantasies Gone Bad," "The Best Video Clip Ever."

There are a few other which are too obscene. We can't actually show them to you.

KAGAN: Thank you for having some discretion on my show. I appreciate that.

SIEBERG: Yes, we have to hold back a little on this one.

And it also affects quite a number of operating systems. Virtually every Windows operating system out there from Windows '98 to ME, right up to Windows 2000 and XP.

KAGAN: What about Macs?

SIEBERG: Macs and every Apple user out there is laughing and saying, you know what? It doesn't affect us. And this happens just about every time...

KAGAN: Knock yourself out. Have a good time on Mac.

SIEBERG: Right, exactly.

KAGAN: But meanwhile, you could have clicked on it a while ago, and Friday is D-Day.

SIEBERG: Friday is D-Day.

KAGAN: Yes.

SIEBERG: As in -- as in -- well, I wanted to say Delete Day, but it's not. It's going overwrite the data on your computer. So it's a little bit different than deleting it. If it deleted it, you might be able to recover it.

KAGAN: Worse than deletion.

SIEBERG: But what's happening here, it's worse than deletion because it's overwriting all of these files on your computer.

As I say, about 600,000 infects worldwide at this point. Unknown how many people have fixed their computers. But we do have a list of tips for people just in case you may have already fallen victim to this.

Certainly don't open unexpected e-mail attachments, because in this case you can get it from someone you know. It could look like an e-mail from somebody you know, so you might trust it.

Keep your anti-virus and anti-spyware software up to date. You might have to do that even to go and clean this one out.

And guess what, Daryn?

KAGAN: This is the best advice I've had all day, I've got to say.

SIEBERG: The last one of all, don't fall for sexy subject lines. I know it's tough to...

KAGAN: I'm trying.

SIEBERG: Exercise some restraint for people.

KAGAN: I'm working on it.

SIEBERG: But, yes -- anyway...

KAGAN: Some days easier than others, you know?

SIEBERG: Yes.

KAGAN: Yes. All right.

SIEBERG: Exactly.

KAGAN: All right. Daniel, thank you for the tips.

SIEBERG: You bet.

KAGAN: Coming up in the next half-hour, they say they didn't cook the books at Enron. We'll check in on today's developments in the trial of Enron founder Ken Lay and former CEO Jeffrey Skilling.

And later, some advice for women who want to have babies but also take antidepressants.

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KAGAN: We're going to do a little combination weather and Super Bowl talk back here in B Control at CNN's international world headquarters.

We're taking a look at a live picture of Seattle on one of our monitors right there. See that? When you zoom in, you can see that it's actually the Space Needle, and above the Space Needle this is -- there's a little celebration going. It is, of course, ahead of Super Bowl XL on Sunday.

Seattle's mayor makes Friday a "Go Hawks" day. The governor has proclaimed the entire weekend Seattle Super Hawks Weekend. And she notes the intense loyalty of Seahawks fans.

Now, Seahawks fans are calling them the Twelfth Man (ph). You see the big "12" there. Well, controversy here.

Texas A&M doesn't like that. The school is going to court to stop the Seahawks from using what they say is its trademark phrase.

And there's a little bit of tidbit here about Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, big-time NFL fan. You might know that about her. And she always, you know, tries to be the epitome of a diplomatic tack except when it comes to her football.

The secretary of state will be in Detroit on Sunday. She will be rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Go Steeler Nation.

Jacqui, I, too, will be rooting for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm going on the record with that.

JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Really?

KAGAN: Yes.

JERAS: Me, too.

KAGAN: You too?

JERAS: Yes.

KAGAN: Love my West Coast team, love -- much love to the Seahawks. But it is a Steeler nation, I believe.

JERAS: All right.

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KAGAN: Americans might be getting excited about the Super Bowl, but other sports fans around the world are getting pumped up for the winter Olympics. Only nine days away. We'll see how Italy is getting ready for the start of the games.

We'll also go back to Capitol Hill, where New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin is testifying about his city's evacuations failures. And a new government report on Katrina response points a finger at the feds.

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