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Interview With Goldie Hawn
Aired February 24, 2006 - 21:00 ET
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LARRY KING, CNN HOST: Tonight, Goldie Hawn, a rare one-on-one with a Hollywood icon from battling anxiety and being a tabloid target to staying sexy at 60 and a lot more. We'll cover it all and take your calls with the one and only Goldie Hawn.
But first, her 15-year-old grandson married a 37-year-old woman who said she was pregnant with his child. Now the boy's grandmother speaks out for the first time since that woman had her baby and pled not guilty to child molestation.
It's all next on LARRY KING LIVE.
In a little while, Goldie Hawn; we begin with Judy Hayles. In November, her 15-year-old grandson married 37-year-old Lisa Lynette Clark (ph), who said she was pregnant with her child. Lisa Lynette Clark gave birth to a baby boy on February 11th. Today, she pled not guilty to charges of statutory rape, child molestation and enticing a minor.
Judy, when did you know about your grandson's involvement with Lisa?
JUDY HAYLES, GRANDMOTHER OF 15-YEAR-OLD: A few days after September the 26th he had been gone for six weeks and he come home September the 26th and I found love letters that she had sent him while he was gone and questioned him about it and he...
KING: How did he -- how did he meet her?
HAYLES: It was his best friend's mother. He went there on the weekends to play with her son, with Lisa's son.
KING: What was your reaction?
HAYLES: Well, I questioned him about the love letters and I said, "Are you having sex with this woman"? And he said, "Yes but what are you going to do about it? You can't do anything about it." I said, "You have no idea what I'm going to do about it."
So, I was going to -- he was seeing a child psychologist because he'd had problems with his mother and I wanted to talk to Dr. King to find out the best way to handle this where it would be less traumatic for Adrian (ph) or my grandson because of his mother leaving him and then his sister got married and left him and I didn't want him to have more problems with this woman leaving. And we played phone tag for about a week but the following Saturday he went to his friend's house and I told the friend's mother if Lisa or her children come over to call me and I'd pick Adrian up. He wasn't allowed to be around them. And she wanted to know why and I told her. And, she said "Well you know, Cindy's pregnant -- I mean Lisa's pregnant."
HAYLES: Well, I got sick let me tell you, sick, and I went home and called Hog (ph) County and they sent out a detective and he made a report.
KING: What has been the reaction of your grandson?
HAYLES: He was -- when he has access to her he's very defiant and smart mouthing and mean talking to me. When he's in a place where he doesn't have access to her he's like the child that he is, just as sweet as he always was and that's how he is now because he knows he doesn't have access to her.
KING: What does he make of being a father?
HAYLES: Well, we don't know that for sure yet. I had said that until I have DNA proof of that baby we will do nothing pertaining to that baby and they took blood from him it will be two weeks Monday and I think they had taken blood from the baby and as soon as they have DNA testing, if it's his baby, then we'll do what's right. If it's not, then I don't want any part of it.
KING: By the way, we've made calls to both the D.A. prosecuting the case and the attorney representing the lady and neither wish to comment, although Lisa Clark's attorney declined to appear with us but he did say his client's condition was emotionally distraught over the separation from her baby son. The son has been taken away from her right?
HAYLES: Yes, I think a friend of hers has it but I don't -- I have no sympathy there because this is her choice. When she got out on bond she was told do not have any contact with my grandson. She violated that bond by choice so where she is now is her own choice.
She could have went home from the hospital with her baby and be with her baby right now had she not have chosen to violate her bond and be put back where she is now. So, my sympathy is not there with her.
And I think this baby was used more as a weapon for control and power over my grandchild because she will not leave this child alone. Everywhere he's been she manages to send him cell phones and she's the one that helped get him out of the state of Ohio. She is obsessed with this child.
KING: Well, where does it go from here? With those charges she can do quite considerable time in jail couldn't she? HAYLES: Well, the D.A. in Hog County was going -- he called me last night and was going to offer a deal, serve eight months and go home for two months and stay with the baby before you start serving the eight months.
And, I said, so she goes home, three felonies on her and she gets to go home for two months and my child don't even have any charges and he's gone for seven to nine and he doesn't even have a charge on him?
I've never heard of -- I've never heard of a convicted felon getting to go home and spend two months with their family before they go to prison but that's the way this has been handled from the beginning.
KING: So you don't like the way the authorities have handled it?
HAYLES: Absolutely not. I reported this on October the 6th and she was not arrested until November the 9th and I had to call the detectives in and beg him to get the warrant and get up there to pick -- to arrest her where she wouldn't take my child off the day after she married him.
KING: Where's your grandson right now?
HAYLES: He is at the youth detention center in Gainesville and his caseworker said they were waiting to see what they did with Lisa before they put him in placement because since this happened November the 9th he's been moved from pillar to post. He has not been home since November the 9th and he's been moved from here to there and everywhere he's been she's managed to get him cell phones.
She is a true predator of children and she will not leave -- even after all this trouble that's happened now her attorney said on the news the other night she said she'll be glad, still be glad when they can get back together.
KING: Boy, what do you make of that?
HAYLES: I told the D.A. in Hog County the next time she wants to try to get my child she can go through me. It won't be through Hog County. Go through me and she will not get him through me and she can take that any way she chooses to take it.
KING: We'll stay on top of this, Judy. Thanks so much.
HAYLES: I hope everybody does. Oh, thank you for having me.
KING: Thank you, Judy Hayles whose 15-year-old grandson married 37-year-old Lisa Lynette Clark, who said she was pregnant with his child.
Goldie Hawn is next. Don't go away.
KING: We now welcome to LARRY KING LIVE a genius of American comedy and theater and film, Goldie Hawn, the Oscar-winning actress. Her best selling memoir "Goldie, A Lotus Grows in the Mud," what a great title, will be released in paperback later this month. There you see its cover. Thank you so much for coming.
GOLDIE HAWN: Thank you.
KING: Thank you. We'll be taking calls later for Goldie as well. You've been on a lot of magazine covers recently, AARP. You're on the cover of the March -- April edition, the title says "Goldie, Sexy, Sixty and Speaking Out." You still feel sexy?
HAWN: Yes, I do.
KING: Do you feel funny about being on the cover of AARP?
HAWN: It was a decision I'll put it that way.
KING: You didn't have to do it.
HAWN: No, but why not you know? Why not?
KING: I mean do you get bugged about aging?
HAWN: Aging is -- I guess probably I would be more bugged if I died.
KING: Yes, that would be...
HAWN: That would be a drag, you know, so I love being where I am and who I am and how old I am. We have no choice. When I was 25 years old my father said to me, I was sitting having coffee, I said "Daddy, I'm getting old." I was 25. And he looked at me and he said, "Go, if you weren't getting old, I'd be worried about you."
HAWN: Yes, exactly, so I remembered that.
KING: And for your 60th you got a tattoo?
HAWN: Yes on my foot.
KING: Your foot.
HAWN: Yes, do you want to see it?
KING: Yes. It's a little heart.
HAWN: Where's the camera? There it is.
KING: There it is.
HAWN: That's what I got.
KING: Why? HAWN: You know it wasn't a plan but we were all together on my birthday. We were in Tahiti and my oldest son said "You know what would be really cool" because they have, you know, all kinds of tattoo artists there, he said "Why don't we get a tattoo for mom's birthday? Why don't we all get a tattoo?"
And, of course, we are a totally game family for almost anything and we said "This is like so sweet." So, we tried to figure out what we were going to do as a family, what we would say, you know, for mom, you know, for her 60th birthday.
And, we ended up going to a tattoo artist and I ended up having a heart drawn on by my daughter-in-law to be. She drew my heart and I put a G, initial G, on Kurt's ankle and he went ahead and tattooed my G on his ankle and then my two...
KING: What does that mean?
HAWN: That's my initial so he says "I've been branded by you." And then my two sons had a Tahitian symbol of brother put on them.
KING: How has this thing worked with you and Kurt?
HAWN: Very well, this think you mean this love thing?
KING: Love, never got married.
HAWN: Never got married, never did the ceremony, you know, but we do kind of promise each other to be the best we can be every day, which I think is about all you can do.
KING: What was the thing against the ceremony?
HAWN: We had both been married. I've been married twice. It didn't work. He was married once. That didn't work either. And, you know, we were at a time where we had kids and thought well, you know, what actually would it do to get married? I like being independent. I like being his girlfriend.
I like that notion. I think it's sexy and I do think that it's a way of saying, you know what I don't own you and there's no paper that says that. My union with you is in my heart and it's in my -- in my promises, you know, and that's the best you can do.
KING: Have you ever been...
HAWN: And the kids didn't want us to get married either by the way.
HAWN: No, after about five years we said, "You know, guys, do you want us to get married" and they went "No, it's working great just the way it is."
KING: Have you ever been tempted by society to get married, ever been close to saying well maybe we ought to?
HAWN: No, no but society honestly hasn't tempted me to do very much.
KING: You're not affected by...
HAWN: No, not really. I've always been a little different anyway. I never quite fit in at least from my own perspective, you know.
KING: How do you explain that?
HAWN: I don't know. I think it has to do with how we see ourselves and sometimes how we don't see ourselves and I didn't see myself as part of the pack, you know (INAUDIBLE) I was a dancer and I had like really great posture and everything and I used to when I was a little girl in school I wanted like to get down and be cool but, you know, I just wasn't you know. I was always erect and I don't know. I just was not part of that group.
In seventh grade I tried to be. I tried to be like a tough girl, you know, and like wear double socks and, you know, like loafers and hang out and wear a lot of eye makeup and stuff but it just, I don't know, I just couldn't ever -- I never felt like I fit in. I still don't.
KING: Why did you write the book?
HAWN: I wrote the book because I wanted to be able to share some things that I had learned and as pompous as that may sound, as you get to a certain point in life, you figure so what am I doing? I mean when my mom died, I said "Why am I doing this now? Whom am I acting for? Who am I performing for? Who am I pleasing?"
And, after you get a point where you've done a lot then you've become someone that you say, OK, what now can I do? What can I give? So, I figured that maybe I could give something that I learned along the way. That's why I did it.
KING: Did you enjoy doing it?
HAWN: I did enjoy it sometimes and other times it was just awful because I'm kinetic, you know. I'm a moving person. I don't -- I don't sit down for long periods of time and enjoy it, so having to sit at my computer and work up these stories and, you know, work over also with the woman that was writing with me, Wendy Holden, I was working with her stuff and she was working with mine, so it was really tasking. So, sometimes I just didn't like it at all. It was hard and other times...
KING: Anything you left out?
HAWN: Oh, of course.
KING: I mean that you bandied about and said should I, shouldn't I, and I left it out? HAWN: You know honest to God I probably -- I hit the mark that I thought actually helped me learn something. The whole purpose was not to make this book and tell any stories, do you know what I mean, or hide something about myself? I certainly didn't in the book do you know. I really faced certain things, which I believe obstacles can only be faced.
So, I don't think I left anything out. I mean I went for some pretty hardcore stuff in there in terms of my experiences. I think I -- I didn't say things that would hurt people and that matters to me is that I, you know, if I can't say something nice about someone then don't say it.
KING: Our guest is Goldie Hawn, the book "Goldie, A Lotus Grows in the Mud," is now out in trade paperback. We'll be including calls for Goldie. She's with us for the rest of the hour.
Jon Stewart on Monday; don't go away.
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DICK MARTIN, "THE BEST OF ROWAN AND MARTIN'S LAUGH-IN": And now take it away Goldie.
HAWN: And now the news of the future. And now peering into the world of tomorrow it's for the news of the future and here's our head peerer Don.
DAN ROWAN, "THE BEST OF ROWAN AND MARTIN'S LAUGH-IN": That's Dan, Goldie.
HAWN: Are you sure?
ROWAN: No, I'm Dan.
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HAWN: I work out every day. I watch my diet and I have not had plastic surgery.
DIANE KEATON, ACTRESS: Well, good for you. You look terrific.
BETTE MIDLER, ACTRESS: Oh, come on, at least you're lying through your caps.
HAWN: OK, all right, I have been freshened up a little bit.
KEATON: Oh, God, does it hurt?
HAWN: No. MIDLER: What do they do with the stuff they take off? Do you get to keep it?
HAWN: Oh, come on Brenda, it's the '90s for God sakes. I mean it's like plastic surgery is like good grooming. It's like brushing your teeth.
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KING: That was funny. Our guest is Goldie Hawn. Her best- selling memoir "Goldie, A Lotus Grows in the Mud," is being released this month in trade paperback. We were showing you its cover.
We'll be going to your calls at the bottom of the hour. You and the tabloids, why? Why do you think?
HAWN: First of all, this is -- when I was about 21 I was on "Laugh-In" and I became this, you know, the darling of the critics and the darling of the, you know, the tabloids and, you know. I knew, I even wrote in my diary at that time, you know this is so temporary that they build you up only to tear you down.
How I knew that at that age I have no idea. So, but I've always been very realistic about what it is when you're in the public eye. People, these people had to sell magazines and they make up stories and that's the way they do it and you could say the same for the news and the same for all kinds of things. I mean what's your headline?
KING: Do you let it roll off you then?
HAWN: Yes, yes.
KING: You do. You don't let it bother you?
HAWN: No, I mean you can't. Does it hurt sometimes? Yes, yes it stings sometimes because it's not true and you wonder why people are so mean spirited. That's kind of what I look at.
In particular, you know, with Kurt and I and being together and having the best time and that we keep breaking up every five seconds and, you know, we laugh about it but at the same time what I look at unemotionally is why is this the proclivity of people that have to do this, I mean do these magazines and these papers? What is that streak in them that makes them want to create something like this?
Now, I would say that in relationships that aren't stable I think it could be difficult. I think it could create some strife. So, it's not a good thing in general. It's not good behavior.
KING: Most of what you read about you is not true?
HAWN: I don't read much to tell you the truth about me, you know. I don't read my articles very much or stuff like that but I have read things upon occasion and some of it is true and some of it isn't true, you know. I mean it's just the way it goes, you know. It's telephone, you know, it gets misinterpreted. Who's hearing you? Who's listening? Who's watching? They're going to see it completely different than the next guy and particularly if their designs are to make headlines.
KING: Yet you've always written and told that a lot of men cheated on you.
HAWN: Well, men cheat.
KING: How could someone cheat on you?
HAWN: It doesn't matter. Men -- men -- (INAUDIBLE) men cheat. Men are different than women and men live with -- with some very difficult obstacles. I mean a man basically in his true nature is to spread his seed and a woman is a gatherer and that's kind of the way we're -- our limbic system is set up, you know.
I mean I like cooking and being with my kids and, you know, all of this stuff and taking care of the home and, you know, men like to go do other things. It's normal. It's natural. But we're evolving. We're an evolving group of humans hopefully and it's very difficult because men don't necessarily have any emotional connection to that physiological need and, you know, you and I both know that, don't you?
KING: I guess. Are you still a Jubu?
HAWN: A Jubu?
KING: Jewish and Buddhist?
HAWN: Yes, I am. I try definitely. I belong to a tribe. I'm a Jewish girl and I feel in a sense that that's very, very important in terms of relating, especially when you're young to know where you come from and who you are and what it is you stand for and to have some spiritual connection. I have become a practicing Buddhist.
KING: So, you're more Buddhist than Jewish?
HAWN: I practice Buddhist philosophy and contemplation but I don't know if I'm more of anything. I don't like those labels.
KING: Are you happy?
HAWN: I am happy, yes, for the most part I'm happy but part of the sorrow and the sadness that I feel at times can help promote my happiness as well, so I don't deny my sorrow.
KING: Do you still get a lot of parts?
HAWN: No, I don't. I've turned a lot of parts down but they're not very interesting and I'll tell you there are areas of my life that I'm finding very interesting. But it's, you know, it becomes -- it's a narrower field as you get older and there are roles that come along and some of them are just not that good, so what's the point you know? That's kind of the way I look at it.
The question is would I rather be doing that? Would that satisfy me? Or, would it be traveling through India? Would I prefer to do that or go someplace I've never been or meet someone that fascinates me?
KING: And that's what you prefer?
KING: We'll be right back with more and we'll be taking your calls for Goldie Hawn. Don't go away.
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PETER SELLERS: So why did you come home with me?
HAWN: Why not?
SELLERS: Uh huh. And, if I made a pass at you now what would your reaction be?
HAWN: Oh, you want the results before you place the bet. What do you reckon the odds are?
SELLERS: Look, may I ask you a question without getting a question in reply?
HAWN: It depends.
SELLERS: Why did you say just now you wanted to keep one up on me a bit longer?
HAWN: Supply and demand I suppose. I'm in demand and until I supply I'm one up.
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KURT RUSSELL: Let me see your hand.
HAWN: I smell hair.
RUSSELL: I'll get the burn ointment. You'll be all right.
RUSSELL: Way to hustle guys.
(END VIDEO CLIP) KING: Did you have fun working with Kurt?
HAWN: I had so much fun. Oh, God, we did and we put our trailers together and we had all that fake grass there and our workout stuff and we had the baby and Wyatt was eight months old. He learned to walk on that show and it was -- it was fabulous.
KING: You're a grandmother?
HAWN: I am.
KING: Your daughter Kate Hudson right?
KING: Has a baby.
HAWN: Yes, she and Chris had a baby boy two years ago.
KING: How does it feel being a grandmother?
HAWN: Awesome. Incredible. Fabulous. Every time he calls my name, I just melt. He calls me go-go. He calls me go-go, and Kurt, he calls him go-gi. And he knows the difference. He's a genius.
KING: Let's go to some calls for Goldie Hawn.
Chattanooga, Tennessee, hello.
CALLER: Hi Goldie.
KING: Chattanooga, are you there? I can't hear it.
CALLER: I was just wondering what advice you would give to young people or someone aspiring to be in the entertainment business?
HAWN: Well, aspiring is a really good thing to do, you know. You do want to continue to aspire, and I'll tell you why. Because it's really hard. So if you have the intention to do it, I would say do it because you love it, not because you want to be some big fat movie star. Because that's going to be a very rare occurrence.
So if you love it, stick with it. Do small theater, anything you can do, and love every minute of it.
KING: Where did you start?
HAWN: I was a dancer. So I started dancing.
KING: Where in Washington?
HAWN: Washington, D.C., I was 3 years old. And I danced. And that's how I got to New York as a dancer. And danced on stage and on a few tables. And then I went to Vegas. And I danced in Vegas. And then I came to L.A., and I actually got picked out of the Tennessee Ernie Ford and Andy Griffith chorus line.
KING: To sing and act and...
HAWN: I was dancing and I was singing. And I took the job because I got to do both. And I got paid double.
KING: How did you get laugh-in?
HAWN: George Slaughter came on the set of "Good Morning World," which is -- "Good Morning World" was the first show that I ever did, and I was an actress, and that's what I was picked out of the chorus line to do, caused a great sense of insecurity and fear on my part, which I did write about. And a lot monstrous anxiety attacks, because I didn't want to be a movie star.
I didn't want to be successful that way. I just wanted to dance. And life doesn't always work out the way you think it will. I then was found by George Slaughter. And he came on the set and went, you know, want to come talk to me about my show?
And I said, I would love to come talk to you about your show, no problem, but, you know, I don't know what I'd do. Because I dance and I'm not that funny. And I don't have like a show that I do, like with Buzzy, and they did all this stuff.
So he said, well, I'll give you three shows to do, and let's see what happens. So I forgot my lines. Well, I didn't forget my lines. But I'm a little dyslexic, so I got them mixed up. And I laughed because come on, you know, it was funny. But then I wanted to do it again, and he wouldn't let me.
He said, no, Goldie, that was just fine. I said, please, can I do it again? I messed it up. He said, you were just perfect. So a career was born.
KING: What was your first movie?
HAWN: My first movie was the one and only genuine original "Family Band." And that's before I did "Good Morning World." And I was still a dancer. And I was the lead dancer opposite Leslie Ann Warren.
And Kurt Russell was in the family. He was 16. And I was 20 or 21. And he was playing the drums. And that was the first movie, I ever did, and he was on that show.
KING: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, hello.
CALLER: Hi. How are you doing, Mr. King?
CALLER: Hi, Goldie, how are you?
HAWN: I'm well, thank you. CALLER: I just love you to death. I've watched everything you've done. And I want to ask you, did you have a problem doing the movie with my favorite fellow, Mel Gibson, if you had a problem with the animals in that on "Bird on a Wire?"
HAWN: Oh, that's a really good question. Did I have a problem with the animals? You know what? I was -- I don't know if you call it a problem, but I was a little frightened. Is that where you're going?
CALLER: Yes, that's where I'm going.
HAWN: Yes, I was frightened. Because they were there, and they were real, and, you know, it was a little heart-thumping. So I definitely did. I haven't thought about that.
KING: Did you enjoy Mel?
HAWN: Mel is a consummate pro. He was -- every day he was in great spirits. He was a joker. He was on time. He's a hard worker. I just -- and he's absolutely melty, dreamy to look into. I mean, he's such a handsome guy. I had a great time with him. I like men who are on time.
KING: What about Peter Sellers?
HAWN: Peter Sellers was great to work with. A lovely man. A little bit crazy in that he -- you know, as I say, it was hard. It was sort of balancing a very delicate spirit on a needle. You know, because you never know where he was going.
But I gave him a birthday party once, and he said to me, you know, Goldie, I'll never have a home like this. I'll never have a house like this, and I would like a piece of me in your home. And he sent me a French armoire, and I still have it. That was after he ate his birthday candle, which is a whole other problem.
KING: Was he a genius?
HAWN: Yes, he was. He definitely was. He was completely in his moment, in his truth, at all times there was never a break. He was able to witness how funny he was, and yet not have any control over his ability to -- inability to stop laughing at himself.
We would have to break for lunch sometimes, because we couldn't bring him back. But, you know, you couldn't get a knife in between who he was playing and his comedy and his truth. It was all there together, which is what made him a genius.
KING: We'll be right back with more of Goldie Hawn. The book is "Goldie" and the subtitle is, "A Lotus Grows in the Mud." We'll include more phone calls for this delightful star. Don't go away.
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MEL GIBSON, ACTOR: Are you mumbling? What are you doing? HAWN: I said good luck, pal. I'm out of here in the morning.
GIBSON: Maryanne, I gave this guy my word.
HAWN: Well, I didn't, all right? I'm going to call my office in the morning and have them express mail some money. I'm going to pay this guy off. I'm going to buy this damn place if necessary. And I'm out of here.
GIBSON: Calm down. Will you? What's eating you?
HAWN: Calm down? I just took a shower with a cockroach from hell. He's in there doing his hair right now. Not to mention the fact that you sold me into human bondage.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you wanted that. You know you do.
HAWN: What are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I smell fear in any man and passion in any woman. You know you want it Benjamin.
HAWN: Oh my God. This isn't happening to me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am going to take you now Benjamin.
HAWN: I am not in the mood. Suddenly I feel a little nauseous.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come to papa.
HAWN: I don't think so sir. But thanks anyway.
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KING: The now famous "Private Benjamin." Goldie Hawn is our guest. Edmonton, Alberta, hello.
CALLER: Hi Larry. How are you?
CALLER: And how are you doing Goldie?
HAWN: I'm very well thank you.
CALLER: I have a question about the "Private Benjamin" movie. First one is how long did it take? And it looked you had massive fun.
HAWN: Well, let's see, how long did it take? It took me -- because I produced it, it took me, you know, a good year with all the ins and outs of how you sort of orchestrate around making a movie. But it really was probably a ten-week shooting schedule or something like that. And I did have a ball. It was a lot of work, but I had a great time.
KING: Do you have a follow-up, dear?
OK. San Diego, hello.
CALLER: Yes. What was the impact on your lives from reading the resistance...
KING: I don't know what they said. San Francisco, hello.
CALLER: Hello. Goldie, since you're always traveling to India, what is it that you like best about India? And what do you think of the people there?
HAWN: Well, the -- obviously, the Indian people, I'm enamored with. I think they're quick-minded and incredibly resilient. They're passionate about what they believe. They often times -- some of even the world leaders are poets. They're steeped in faith, and even those that don't believe, believe fiercely in not believing.
It's a land of opposites. You see life on the street. It's not behind gates. I love its culture and its sense, its smells, its sensuality, its art, its literature. I love India.
KING: It's coming through. New York City, hello. New York City, hello.
CALLER: Hello? Good evening. Hi, Larry.
CALLER: Goldie, I admire you. I love you. I admire your way of life. Coming from the Caribbean, from a different culture, you have been an inspiration for me, a real role model and my favorite movie- protocol.
And my question is, how did you manage to stay so young, beautiful and joyful? God bless you.
HAWN: Thank you very much.
KING: What's the secret, Golda?
HAWN: I don't know if there's a secret, but I certainly have the intention to want to live that way. So maybe that's what the difference is, is that when you intend to be happy, then you figure out ways to sustain your happiness or your ability to feel moments of joy in your life.
Youthfulness is connected to the ability to see things new for the first time. So if your eyes still look at life with wonder, then you will seem young, even though you may not be chronologically young. So curiosity, I think, is a really important aspect of staying young or youthful. And then you got to work out now and then, a few sit- ups.
KING: Kurt Russell is starring in "The Poseidon Adventure," right?
HAWN: Yes, he is.
KING: They remade that.
HAWN: Yes, they did remake that. He was in a lot of water too.
KING: It opens this summer?
HAWN: It opens this summer, yes.
KING: Did he have fun doing it?
HAWN: He did have fun doing it. I mean, Kurt is another one who's on time, the quintessential person who, you know, is the professional. Did a lot of rewriting scenes. I mean, he's right there. So it's work. Movies are work. Particularly this movie is in water a lot.
So, fun? I don't know if you could go to fun. You know what I mean? It's like that. So it's every day in the water, in the tank, you know, and cleaning out his ears and making sure that, you know, didn't get infections and so forth. But Kurt is fun himself.
KING: Are you going to do another movie together?
HAWN: Yes, we're going to do "Ashes to Ashes" together. It's a film that I wrote, and I'll direct. And we're very excited about that.
KING: Do you like directing?
HAWN: I do. I really do. I enjoy it very much. It's kind of like -- it's the idea of painting on a moving canvas. What's the matter?
KING: Would you go back to television?
HAWN: Would I go back to TV? I guess in terms of -- I guess it would have to be, what is it, you know. It's always about why would I go back to TV. Why would I do anything? It would be -- what's the content? You know, what is it saying?
KING: Reno, Nevada, hello.
CALLER: Hi, Larry and hi, Goldie.
CALLER: My question is, I really enjoyed you in "Cactus Flower," and I'd like to know how you liked working with Walter and Ingrid Bergman. And I think you're adorable. HAWN: Well, thank you very much. I did like working with Walter very much. He was great. He was a real father figure. He was tough. He really was.
Walter was -- I mean, one time I had an interview and I couldn't run lines with him, and he made very sure that I, you know, knew that I should have run lines with him at lunch. It was a -- he was a task master. But I loved him. He's the only one who called me Golda, other than you, other than my family. And so I was very close to Walter.
Ingrid, it was her first movie, so she was nervous at that time. It was my first movie. But it was her first movie after she came back from being exiled. So it was a pretty important time for her. And she was a very, very strong, impressive woman who was also incredibly shy. So it was quite an experience.
KING: She was ostracized. Today they wouldn't have ostracized her.
HAWN: Of course not. I mean, it just shows you, you know, the things that matter yesterday don't matter today. She had an affair. You know, she had an affair. And she had an image of being this wonderful, sweet person. And you don't do that. And boy, how times change, you know.
KING: We'll be right back with more of the wonderful Goldie Hawn.
Right now, check into Waveland, Mississippi. Anderson Cooper is standing by. He'll host "AC 360" at the top of the hour.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Well, coming up on the six-month anniversary of Katrina we thought no better place to be tonight than where we started in those terrible days right after Katrina hit, Larry. And we came back really to see how much has changed.
And of course, I'm surprised to see how little it really has changed. Devastation still all around. Tonight, some very hard questions for the federal government about the state of the cleanup operations here in Waveland.
Why are private contractors able to pick up more of the debris than the Army Corps of Engineers? Why have they been able to pick up more of the devastation than the federal government has? That's what the mayor here would like to know. We'll be asking those questions to the Army Corps of Engineers.
And a lot more all throughout the Gulf, Larry, as we're spending the next several days remembering what has happened here and remembering and trying to see how much has really changed as we go to Mardi Gras in New Orleans -- Larry.
KING: Thanks, Anderson. Anderson Cooper, the host of "AC 360" at the top of the hour with an important story tonight from the Gulf region. We'll be right back.
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HAWN: I don't know why I bother to ask. The only way you're ever going to get money out of a bank is to rob one.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you so mad about?
HAWN: Oh, I'll just fix my hair. You break your neck to go up to Jack. When do I get my hair done?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She asked me to do her hair.
HAWN: Does that mean you have to do what everybody asks? Why am I always at the end of the line when you're passing out favors?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want me to do your hair, I'll do your hair.
HAWN: And stop kissing everybody's ass that comes into that shop. That's not going to put you into business. That's going to make you a kiss-ass.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on Jill. I am trying to get things moving.
HAWN: Oh grow up.
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HAWN: I, Paula McCullough (ph)...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...take thee Richard Patform (ph)...
HAWN: ...take thee Richard Patform...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...to be my lawfully and wedded husband.
HAWN: ...to be my lawful wedded husband.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...for better or for worse.
HAWN: ...for better or for worse.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...in sickness and in health.
HAWN: ...in sickness and in health.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...with love and affection.
HAWN: ...with love and affection.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I d and o.
HAWN: What? I don't understand that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I d and o.
HAWN: I d and o.
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KING: That guy's hysterical.
HAWN: He is so funny.
KING: What is his name?
HAWN: I have forgotten. That's terrible of me.
KING: He's in a lot of movies.
HAWN: Oh yes. He works a lot.
KING: Richard Libertini.
HAWN: Yes. Very good. Good one wow.
KING: Greg gave it to me.
HAWN: Oh he did?
KING: All right. Is your daughter going to have another baby?
HAWN: Oh, I hope so.
KING: No, I mean is she pregnant.
HAWN: Oh no.
KING: I don't know where they heard that.
HAWN: No, she's not pregnant. I don't know, would I break it on THE Larry King show?
KING: Yes, why not?
HAWN: I don't know. But I mean she's not.
KING: But you could break it here.
HAWN: I can't lie. Yes, I could break it there. Except you know what? It's not for mine to break. It's my grandchild, but it's not my baby.
KING: You were writing a book about sexually molested at age 11.
HAWN: I did, yes.
KING: What did that do to you? HAWN: It scared me, but the reason I wrote the story was because I thought it was important the way my mother and everybody in the family handled it. Because, you know, our brains imprint a certain thing as how our family remembers certain things and how they react to it.
So if your mother reacts to it in a way like, oh this is so terrible. How dare he? Whatever, that's what goes into a child's brain. It was terrible. It was horrible. And you remember it that way.
And my mother didn't do it that way, which I write about in the book. She handled it in a very practical way. She actually talked about him being sick and knowing that it had nothing to do with me.
And I actually gained a modicum of compassion for this man. So it was a story about how we can handle our children in these kinds of situations.
KING: Do you still suffering from anxiety attacks?
HAWN: No, I don't. I got through that too. They were like panic attacks. You know, and they're horrible, horrible. And I remember them, you know -- I could feel one coming on, you know.
KING: How did you get rid of it?
HAWN: I think through my analysis. I went to a doctor for nine years during my climb to success or stardom or whatever you want to call it, and it was a great thing.
It was the best thing that ever happened to me, because I was able to really through cognitive, look at my surroundings, look at the world around me and face myself very clearly in that order. So it made a difference.
KING: Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania, hello.
CALLER: Good evening, Larry. Hi, Goldie.
CALLER: This is a pleasure. This is best day of my life speaking with you. But first of all, I'd like to say, would you ever be working with Diana Keaton and Bette Midler? I thought you were superb in that movie "First Wives Club."
And also you helped me get through my mother's death when I lost my mother. And I know how close you were with your mother, and remember an interview you gave I think in "McCall's," and it helped me a lot. But I hope you and Bette and Diane will be working again in the future. Thank you.
HAWN: Thank you very much. Thank you. I hope so too. Diane's a good friend of mine. And I'm really happy that we could share some feelings about it. KING: Huntsville, Alabama, hello.
CALLER: Hi, Goldie.
CALLER: This is Brenda Wilson. I wanted to know, what were the highlights in your life? You've always been so important to me. And watching you grow. I'm about your and Kurt's age. I just want to know, besides your child, of course, because she's beautiful, and your grandchild, I want to know what were the highlights in your life.
KING: Was it career?
HAWN: Oh, wow. The highlights in my life, that's a big question. Being born maybe.
KING: That was big.
HAWN: That was big. That was awesome, you know. Being born was great.
KING: Do you remember it?
HAWN: No. But I think that if I feel the way I do when I wake up in the morning, then I do remember it. Because when I wake up, I feel like that.
KING: So that's it. Being born.
KING: We'll be back with our remaining moments with Golda. Don't go away.
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HAWN: Give you a break? Hey. Let me share something with you. In the last 24 hours, I have been rerouted, mugged, evicted, chased by a dog, kidnapped, chased by a horse and seen in a compromising position by the mayor.
I just found out that my daughter is spending us into the poorhouse and that my husband has no job. I'm angry, I'm tired and I'm hungry and I'm running with the wolves. And right now I am one crazy bitch from Ohio, so why don't you give me a break?
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HAWN: Goodbye. And all it meant to me. It can never be the things that used to be. For I must have you or no one. And so I am through with love. (END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: "Everyone Says I Love You," that was terrific when he flings you in the air.
HAWN: God, I had fun that night. I mean, it was really there in Paris, and there were six men holding me with those, you know, those ropes. And I would lift and they would take me and wow.
KING: We are running out of time. Quickly, you did "Sugarland Express?"
HAWN: Yes, I did.
KING: Great movie. And that was Steven Spielberg's first movie. Did you recognize then that this guy had it?
HAWN: I did. I really did. He was really unbelievable.
KING: You are a special lady. It is always great to see you.
HAWN: Thank you so much.
KING: Let's do it again soon.
KING: Goldie Hawn, the book is "Goldie: A Lotus Grows in the Mud." It's now in trade paperback, and it is always great to see her.
Over the weekend we have repeat shows for you, including "Dancing with the Stars" tomorrow night. And then on Monday night, John Stewart is our special guest. He will be with us in advance of hosting the Oscars.
Right now let's get down to Waveland, Mississippi. Anderson Cooper is standing by to host tonight's edition of "AC 360." This is going to be a big week and weekend for our coverage.
Anderson, what's happening?
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