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Pomp, Pageantry and Protest; China: Friend or Foe?; Raids Target Illegal Immigrants, Bosses

Aired April 20, 2006 - 11:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Pomp, pageantry and protest. A taste of all three for China's President Hu Jintao at the White House, meeting with President Bush. The two are talking trade and economics, but human rights are also on the minds of demonstrators.
Our White House correspondent, Elaine Quijano, is covering today's official visit.

And while that is the focus of the demonstrations, we did hear President Hu also talking about human rights. But little did he expect that his speaking would be disrupted by a heckler that was right there in the risers with the photographers.

Explain what happened, and how.

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, it was shortly after President Bush actually was wrapping up his comments and the Chinese president, President Hu Jintao, began speaking, that a woman who was where the photographers were, as you noted, on a camera platform about 15 feet or so high -- she was about 20 feet away from where I was standing on the ground -- she began heckling in Chinese. And at one point, I did hear her speak in English, saying President Bush's name, also saying something to the effect of, stop persecuting the Falun Gong. That at reference to the spiritual movement in China that the Chinese government began cracking down on in 1999.

She was eventually taken away by a uniformed Secret Service officer, but it did, for a time, disrupt that visit.

Now, the Chinese president, Hu Jintao, is coming here to receive a very formal welcome from President Bush and top U.S. officials. The morning started with an elaborate welcoming ceremony on the south lawn of the White House. A full 21-gun salute, also a review of a military Honor Guard, followed by some statements by the two leaders outlining a number of issues on the agenda. As you mentioned, economic issues, trade issues, but also Iran and North Korea.

President Bush stressing the need for cooperation on all of those issues, but Mr. Bush also stating publicly the need for China to do more in the area of human rights.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: China's become successful because the Chinese people are experiencing the freedom to buy and to sell and to produce, and China can grow even more successful by allowing the Chinese people the freedom to assemble, to speak freely and to worship

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QUIJANO: Now, the main real purpose here, to manage this delicate relationship between the two countries. We're not expecting any sort of major breakthroughs, because there are quite a few differences between the United States and China on a number of issues. We are, though, anticipating that this is going to be a very symbolic discussion in terms of the way the Chinese are viewing this.

In some respects, some of the style, really, more important to the Chinese audience, who is watching very closely as their leader is being welcomed into the United States. The message the United States wants to send is that the Bush administration, President Bush, does not view China as a threat. That its rise, its emergence as a global power is not something to be feared.

We have heard President Bush say over and over again the United States should welcome competition worldwide, not just from China, but also India as well. That is a message that he wants to send. And he is trying to do that with his meeting here today -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Well, what's interesting, too, Elaine, is these two have not necessarily seen eye to eye before this meeting. And even with the discrepancy over whether this is considered a state visit or official visit or not, it still underscores that they're not on the same page.

What is that issue here?

QUIJANO: Well, there are security issues certainly that we heard President Bush raise. Iran, of course, continues to be a major pressing concern for the United States, and the world community as well, U.S. officials would say.

Iran's nuclear ambitions, of course, something that the international community looking at very closely. And the option of sanctions are on the table.

Now, what the United States would like to see is for China to get behind any sanctions, if, in fact, it comes to that. But China has been reluctant to do so because if looks to Iran for oil.

And on that point, Fredricka, another main topic, of course, is energy consumption. China has a voracious appetite for energy. Of course, the United States does as well. So there has been some talk even ahead of this visit about how best to look at that issue, the energy needs of both countries going forward.

North Korea is another area of concern for the United States. And we heard President Bush say that they hope here in the United States that China will use its considerable influence on North Korea in order to get them to come back to these six-party, six-country nuclear talks.

So, those are the kinds of things that the United States hopes to see China move on. It's unclear, though, whether or not we're going to have any kind of resolutions or agreements come out of this. But certainly this will be an opportunity for the United States to make its case about why it is in China's interest to act with the United States and the world community on those issues -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right. And on oil consumption, China number two behind the U.S.

Elaine Quijano, thanks so much from the White House.

Well, as Chinese President Hu and President Bush get down to business at the White House, we've been looking at the economic impact China has on the United States. But there's another side, one that grabs the attention of the State Department and the Pentagon.

CNN's Kitty Pilgrim looks at China: friend or foe?

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KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): China spending tens of billions on its military buildup and supports the most heinous rogue nations in the world, propping up the North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il, embracing the anti-U.S. rhetoric of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, supporting strongman Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe, defending and supporting Sudan, and also giving support to the regime in Burma.

JOHN TKACIK, HERITAGE FOUNDATION: China has pretensions of becoming the new -- another new world superpower, and all of those countries around the world that have been harassed are now told by the Chinese, you don't have to worry about being pressured by the United States. We will back you up

PILGRIM: The State Department plans on complaining when the Chinese president visits this week.

SEAN MCCORMACK, STATE DEPT. SPOKESMAN: In as much as China tries to reinforce negative behaviors among other countries around the world, whether that be Iran or elsewhere, then, of course, we will raise those issues with -- with China.

PILGRIM: The Pentagon is more blunt. In this year's Quadrennial Defense Review, it names China as a potential military rival. "China has the greatest potential to compete militarily with the United States."

The QDR also points out the secrecy of China's military buildup, stating, "The outside world has little knowledge of Chinese motivations and decision-making... supporting its military modernization." Adding, "The pace and scope of China's military buildup already puts regional military balances at risk."

CURT CAMPBELL, CENTER FOR STRATEGIC & INTERNATIONAL STUDIES: They are not interested in promoting democracy for obvious reasons, and their primary interests right now are to secure access to energy and raw materials that allows the great Chinese engine of growth to continue. PILGRIM: The United States takes a soft tone with China, calling for it to become a stakeholder in the world community.

Kitty Pilgrim, CNN.

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WHITFIELD: Now to another contentious issue facing this country. A new crackdown on illegal immigration announced this hour. And the feds aren't just going after workers.

We expect to hear from Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff shortly. But first, Jeanne Meserve looks at the raids targeting illegal workers and the companies that employ them.

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JEANNE MESERVE, CNN HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement swooped down on IFCO Systems facilities in Altamont, New York, Phoenix, Arizona, Houston, Texas, Westboro, Massachusetts, nearly 40 locations in all, rounding up more than 1,000 illegal workers. Seven current and former managers of the company which makes wooden pallets, crates and containers, were also arrested and charged with transporting and harboring illegal aliens, and giving them false documents.

JULIE MYERS, IMMIGRATION & CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT: Employees in IFCO have been involved in inducing illegal aliens to work there, telling them that they should doctor their W-2s, giving them fake Social Security cards, and in fact telling them they did not need to fill out any documentation at all.

MESERVE: ICE alleges a sampling of the IFCO payroll in 2005 showed that more than half of the company's employees were using Social Security numbers that belonged to other people, some of them dead.

MYERS: The Social Security Administration had written IFCO over 13 times and told them, listen, you have a problem. You have over a thousand employees that have faulty Social Security numbers, and we consider that to be a big problem. And IFCO did not do anything about it.

MESERVE: In a statement, IFCO said, "It is our policy to comply with all federal and state employment requirements. We are cooperating fully with representatives from ICE, and hope to have this matter resolved as soon as possible."

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WHITFIELD: And that was Jeanne Meserve reporting.

We should learn more about the raids and the new immigration crackdown from Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff shortly.

Well, could a cab driver provide an alibi for a rape suspect? Come up, we'll have the latest on the Duke lacrosse story.

And a Capitol offense. A congresswoman sends a letter to a constituent, but it ends with an insult that shocks everyone, even the congresswoman.

Well explain when we come right back.

A nickel wage, a winner's touch.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I said, "I know I hit something. What is it? What did I win?"

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WHITFIELD: A great grandmother enters some really golden years. She won all right.

We'll explain on CNN LIVE TODAY.

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WHITFIELD: A search is under way for a missing plane and a legendary test pilot who may have been piloting that plane. The plane was last spotted on radar yesterday just north of Atlanta.

It's registered to Scott Crossfield, the first man to fly at twice the speed of sound. Later, he broke the barrier of Mach 3. That's triple the speed of sound.

Crossfield is now 84 years old.

Teen violence in Vegas. Police are looking for young men videotaped robbing a convenience store. They believe the men were involved in a string of attacks this weekend, including a park shooting and the beatings of at least five people. Authorities say this brutal mob assault may have involved those same teens, that where you're looking right there.

Ten to 15 men pummeled an MGM Grand maintenance worker on the Las Vegas Strip earlier this week. Investigators arrested an 18-year-old in connection with that beating. He denies involvement.

The latest now on the Duke rape investigation. The D.A. says a third suspect may still be charged. Lawyers for Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann say their clients are innocent, and now a cab driver has come forward with information that could help one of the students prove it.

CNN's Jason Carroll has that end of the story.

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JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Defense attorneys continue to build their case on the premise that two Duke University lacrosse players, Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann, both of whom are charged with raping a young woman, were not at the party when the alleged assault took place. The prosecution says the rape happened when the dancer reentered the lacrosse team member's home after performing.

A next-door neighbor who says he saw the young woman try to go back to the home says that was around 12:30 a.m. But the defense says it has records showing Seligmann called On Time Taxi at 12:14 from his cell phone. On Time Taxi showed CNN their computer phone log, which confirms his call coming in at that time.

At 12:19, defense sources say records show the cab picked him up and drove him to this Wachovia bank. The driver, Mose Mostafa, tells CNN he remembers picking Seligmann, along with another unidentified young man that night.

MOSE MOSTAFA, "ON TIME TAXI" DRIVER: They seemed calm, like normal. I didn't recognize anything different. Just like any student call us for a fare, I go down there and pick them up.

CARROLL: 12:24, defense sources say bank records will show Seligmann withdrew money. Minutes later, Mostafa says he drove the player and his friend to the Cook Out restaurant. Mostafa says he then drove the young man to his dorm.

Defense sources say Seligmann's student I.D. card confirms he arrived at his dorm at 12:41 a.m. The defense attorney says the timeline shows it was not possible for him to be at the house when the alleged assault took place.

Seligmann's lawyer says his family is devastated that he is now facing these serious charges.

BILL COTTER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Terrified. I mean, this is awful. If any of you had received a call that said your son or daughter was charged with a serious crime, and you had all the confidence in the world that he or she didn't do that, you'd be terrified. You'd be scared to death.

Like I -- like I said earlier, this is a good, decent, tight family. And next to one of them dying, this is going to be probably the worst thing they ever go through.

CARROLL: The defense says a timeline and witnesses will show Collin Finnerty also was at a restaurant when the alleged rape took place. The D.A. would not comment on the defense attorneys' claims.

(on camera): And the D.A., Michael Nifong, told CNN in a previous interview he does have solid evidence, including a medical examination done by a nurse, which shows the young woman was the victim of a sexual assault. If true, the defense questions whether he has charged the right suspects.

Jason Carroll, CNN, Durham, North Carolina.

(END VIDEOTAPE) WHITFIELD: The pain at the pump is downright excruciating in some parts of the country. Call it a sign of the times -- $3.77, are you kidding me? Well, that's how much it's costing in Yosemite, California.

AAA says the average price nationwide is up to $2.82 a gallon. Let's hope that's just temporary.

A big reason for those high gas prices, let's check in with Susan Lisovicz at the New York Stock exchange with perhaps a good explanation.

There isn't ever a good explanation, but, you know, what are you going to tell us?

SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN FINANCIAL CORRESPONDENT: It always seems to happen right at the beginning of the peak driving season.

WHITFIELD: Yes.

LISOVICZ: But I do have good news for you for a change. Oil prices are down big time, down $1.17 right now to $71 a barrel. The bad news is, at $71 a barrel, it's still higher than the peak we saw right after Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast.

Crude oil trading down a little bit more today. But the concern is that oil refiners can't keep up with demand, and demand is high this time of year -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Well, somebody else who can celebrate being big and getting bigger all the time, "The Donald." What's new for him now?

LISOVICZ: Oh, "The Donald." You know, his name is ubiquitous in Manhattan. His name is on everything, condos...

WHITFIELD: He is Manhattan.

LISOVICZ: He is. And, you know, it's like Peachtree in Atlanta. His name is everywhere.

WHITFIELD: Right. Right.

LISOVICZ: Peachtree Street, Peachtree Lane.

Well, "The Donald" is everywhere. But now it's the softer, gentler side of Trump.

He's turning to nature. Donald Trump is donating 436 acres of land. No, he's not going to build a skyscraper. It's going to be a new state park, just 45 miles north of New York City. And, Fred, guess what it will be called?

WHITFIELD: What? Please, Trump Park, Trump Plaza, you know, whatever, Trump something.

LISOVICZ: Donald J. Trump State Park.

WHITFIELD: OK. Well, I was close.

LISOVICZ: So that's official. The governor of New York and Mr. Donald J. Trump announced the deal yesterday.

He actually had bought the properties in the '90s for $2 million. Obviously, while we're talking about property here, it's escalated quite a bit.

WHITFIELD: Yes.

LISOVICZ: He wanted to turn it into golf courses or homes, obviously, with the Trump name, but those plans faced local opposition. And now people who live in the area will really benefit nicely -- Fred.

WHITFIELD: Now everyone has got a piece of "The Donald."

LISOVICZ: Exactly.

WHITFIELD: All right. That's not bad.

All right. Thanks so much, Susan.

LISOVICZ: You're welcome.

WHITFIELD: All right. More now on the crackdown of employers who are employing illegal immigrants. Let's check in now with Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff, talking about that very subject.

MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: The fact of the matter is we are looking at organizations that promote the harboring and the hiring of illegal, undocumented workers. We're looking at them in the same way we look at other criminal organizations. We are using a strategy against them that is tried and true because it's succeeded against other kinds of organized criminal groups or drug groups or any kind of groups that contains or that executes illegal business as a way of conducting its regular activities.

And that means what we're focused on is not just individual cases involving a single violator here or a single violator there, but actually looking at those people who adopt as a business model the systematic violation of United States law.

We target those organizations. We use intelligence to define the scope of the organization. And then we use all of the tools we have, whether it's criminal enforcement or the immigration laws, to make sure we come down as hard as possible and break the back of those organizations.

Now, this is a particularly opportune moment for me to talk about a more general strategy we are unveiling today with respect to interior enforcement of our immigration laws to crack down on the harboring and the hiring of undocumented workers in violation of American law.

The fact of the matter is, as we all know by following the news over the last year, Americans are rightly concerned about the need to enforce our immigration laws and our work laws in the United States. And that means we've got to focus on illegal immigration and also on those who flagrantly violate the law by encouraging that illegal migration, whether they do it by smuggling the migrants across the border or by employing the migrants in a systematic fashion once they get into the United States.

As a consequence of our concern about this, last fall I announced our Secure Border Initiative, which was pulling together for the first time a comprehensive strategy designed to give us control of the border, using things like joint planning, joint operations and joint evaluation to make sure we're doing the right thing in terms of getting real results.

This strategy is designed to look at every element of the business of illegal migration and attack that business at every point of vulnerability.

And so we look, as part of the strategy, at three things.

We look at, first of all, detecting and catching those who cross the border illegally.

We then look at how to get the people we catch, detain them and then remove them as quickly as possibly back to their home countries.

And finally, we focus upon those people who we don't catch at the border but who occupy jobs in the interior in violation of the law, often using phony documentation, and thereby creating some of that economic demand that is pulling more and more people across the border to try to fill jobs.

Today, we're talking about that element of the strategy that has to do with the interior enforcement.

I want to emphasize: The best thing we can do is stop people cold when they cross the border. But we recognize that we're not going to catch everybody. And we haven't caught everybody. And so we've also got to focus on those who have made in into the country and now are finding a place to live and trying to find some place to work.

And we have to recognize that if we let them do that with impunity, we're actually making the job of border enforcement harder on ourselves.

So this strategy is designed to continue to strike at this business...

WHITFIELD: Michael Chertoff there. Michael Chertoff, the secretary of Homeland Security, justifying there the latest crackdown of illegal immigration.

Most recently, yesterday, IFCO Systems, a company that makes pallets and wooden containers, was raided at 40 different locations. About a thousand illegal immigrants were rounded up, as well. About nine employees of that firm were charged because of these violations that Michael Chertoff is spelling out.

More news of "LIVE FROM" -- or rather LIVE TODAY when we come right back.

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WHITFIELD: In an attempt to save Zacarias Moussaoui from the death penalty, relatives of 9/11 victims were in court in Alexandria today testifying.

Our Kelli Arena is outside that Alexandria courthouse to explain why it is they feel they would prefer that he gets life in prison -- Kelli.

KELLI ARENA, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, we've heard from five witnesses so far. This is the second day of testimony from family members of those who died on September 11th who chose to testify for the defense.

We've heard a lot in that courtroom about picking up the pieces, about being strong, about celebrating life rather than commemorating September 11th. And we heard a lot about hoping that something good could come out of those attacks rather than negativity and revenge.

They do not speak to the jury about their motivation for testifying. They do not mention Zacarias Moussaoui. They are not allowed to talk about the death penalty, but we did hear about some stories of heroism.

We had two family members from Flight 93 there, Mark Bingham's mother and Jeremy Glick's sister. Those names should be very familiar to you and our audience as a part of the team of passengers that tried to take back control of that plane before it crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

Right now, Mark Bingham's mom is speaking to the press over -- over there. And they're actually able and freer to speak outside of the courtroom rather than inside the courtroom. I think we may be able to take that feed?

ALICE HOAGLAND, MOTHER OF FLIGHT 93 PASSENGER: Every soul that was lost on September 11th was beautiful and much loved and much missed. And this -- this courtroom, this event, this trial is a profound reaffirmation of the American way of our reverence for life. And I'm very proud to be an American. I'm very proud of this court. I am very proud to have been asked to come and speak.

ARENA: That's Alice Hoagland, Mark Bingham's mother. He died in that Flight 93 crash.

We've heard from some other family members outside of court who say that they felt that it was the American thing to do, the patriotic thing to do, to uphold the rights in this country, to speak your mind. One -- one family member yesterday saying, "There's no one individual person that speaks for all the September 11th families."

Now, they're not saying, Fredricka, that they have any -- any desire one way or the other in terms of a sentence, but they did feel that it was their right to come and say what they had to say and speak for the defense as they chose.

WHITFIELD: All right. Kelli Arena, thank you so much from Alexandria.

ARENA: You're welcome.

WHITFIELD: Well, after a long and costly deployment in Iraq, about 291 members of the Georgia National Guard's 48th Brigade arrived back home last night. And many more are on the way still.

Our Ross Cavitt, who is with our affiliate WSB here in Atlanta is there for the reunion, where there are a lot of folks who have been awaiting the arrival of this brigade which has suffered so much loss, more than 20. What is it, 26 members who died while serving in Iraq?

ROSS CAVITT, FORT STEWART, GEORGIA: Yes, absolutely, and many more casualties besides that Fredricka. Behind me, several hundred family members. The word anticipation, I don't think, does it justice as they wait for more than 200 members of the 48th brigade of the Georgia National Guard to return home after nearly a year in Iraq, and about six months of training before that. These folks have been plucked out of their civilian lives for about a year and a half in total here in Georgia.

Jennifer Rainwater is anxiously awaiting Sergeant First Class Scott Rainwater to come back. Just describe the emotions you and other family members are going through here.

JENNIFER RAINWATER, WIFE OF RETURNING SOLDIER: We are just -- when we heard they were at the (INAUDIBLE) Army Airfield, that was our biggest relief, just to know that they were back on American soil.

CAVITT: How would you describe the sacrifice families have made during the deployment in Iraq?

RAINWATER: Well, I think it's been toughest on little ones.

UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: I'm not little!

RAINWATER: Mom is -- we've made it through. It's been tough. Just -- we're not used to our husbands being gone. And this is a weekend warrior, supposedly, and to go for a year-long deployment, that was a big adjustment.

CAVITT: Are you going to want to know what he went through in Iraq? Are you going to ask him any questions? Or how are you going to handle that?

RAINWATER: I'll just let him basically tell me. I've asked a couple of things when he was home on leave, but I think it's just -- if we let them talk about it when they're ready, I think that's the most important thing and not try not to pry information, because I know they we want through a lot.

CAVITT: About 20 minutes before they get here. And there's a short ceremony before you're allowed to go out and see them. How are you going to be able to hold out through that?

RAINWATER: They already told us, nobody on the green grass, so we have to obey. We don't want to mess anything up at this late date. We'll just wait and get our arms around him as soon as they'll allow us to.

CAVITT: And they are due in about 20 minutes, hundreds of families here. This is a slow process. It will take about five weeks to get all 4,200 members of this National Guard unit back here on Georgia soil. And even though they're being reunited with their families today, it's almost a little bit of a tease. They still have five days of active duty here, at least, on Fort Stewart for outprocessing.

Back to you.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much, Ross Cavitt. Glad that they're all home, and on their way home still.

Well, who says civility is dead in politics? Well, maybe the constituent who received this letter from his Missouri Congresswoman. Joanne Emerson's letter starts out pretty standard, but it ends with quite the shocker. Saying, quote, "I think you're an" expletive, and then a crude name for a jerk. The Republican says the letter is genuine, but has no idea how the offensive word actually got in the letter, meaning she endorses the letterhead, but who wrote the contents. The man who received the letter, by the way, is not commenting.

The key to success at school, certainly not this key. A third- grader takes off in his teacher's minivan. We'll tell about you his joyride.

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WHITFIELD: Consider is a lesson learned for everyone. The school teacher included, and the 8-year-old student who actually swiped her car keys. And guess what? Took it a step further. Swiped the minivan as well.

We get details from reporter Louisa Hodge in Modesto, California. She's with CNN affiliate KTXL.

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CAREN BRADY, TEACHER: My car's gone, and I pulled out my cars keys, and said my car keys are gone as well. And then I went, I've been robbed.

LOUISA HODGE, KTXL REPORTER (voice-over): Teacher Karen Brady never expected the thief to be one of her 8-year-old students. During recess, the child allegedly went through her purse, taking the key to her car, then did the unthinkable.

MICHAEL AMARILLAS, MODESTO POLICE DEPT.: The 8-year-old had made some comments to law enforcement that basically he just wanted to go for a drive.

BRADY: I don't know how he got his foot on the pedal and could see over the steering wheel, because he is not a large charge.

HODGE: Despite his height, authorities say the boy was able to drive this gold Dodge Caravan a few blocks to his west Modesto home.

(on camera): The 8-year-old managed to raise the seat, lower the steering wheel, but he didn't stop there. Before hitting the road, he also adjusted the rearview mirror and turned off the radio.

(voice-over): Police didn't say how the boy got this idea, but there's a lot of speculation.

BRADY: I would encourage parents to watch that their kids watch on computers and online, or what they play when they're not around.

HODGE: His teacher, still stunned and shaken, doesn't want the child back in her classroom.

BRADY: I would not have a lot of trust with him, and I would be very afraid of leaving him alone, or what he might do behind my back.

HODGE: Police are leaving the disciplinary action up to his parents and school officials, who immediately suspended the 8-year- old.

As to where Caren Brady now keeps her key...

BRADY: It's locked in a cupboard, and I keep the key to the cupboard in my pocket.

HODGE: In Modesto, Louisa Hodge, Fox 40 News.

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WHITFIELD: We're glad that nobody got physically hurt.

Computers inform us, satellite guides us and sometimes technology fails us, such as the case on this road in great Britain. You drivers who rely on their high-tech guidance systems may find them a poor replacement for commonsense.

ITN reporter Robert Murphy explains.

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ROBERT MURPHY, ITN REPORTER (on camera): The road is closed through the village I want to get through, so my satellite navigation is taking me on a different route.

(voice-over): Unfortunately, it involves driving through a river. Normal-size motors keep getting stuck, but the (INAUDIBLE) no problem for bigger vehicles. All the cars are brought here by sat- nav.

KEVIN ASSINDER, MOTORIST: It's modern technology and it doesn't have brains in the way that we have brains. So it doesn't logically think it's been raining, so, therefore, you know, it's flooded. So there's a good argument for 4x4s.

MURPHY (on camera): So why do motorists risk it? There's a marker telling them that the water's too deep for most conventional cars. And how about this sign? It says "unsuitable for motors."

(voice-over): Over the past few months, nearby photographer Lesley Bennett has been snapping the stranded people who steered into the stream. She says people rely too much on technology.

LESLEY BENNETT, PHOTOGRAPHER: I've come over the wall to talk to somebody sitting in a van in the Ford, and he said, but my sat-nav told me to come this way, as if, you know, that's the divine, it's leading them onward. So they the ignore the signs that say unsuitable for motors, and they say sat-nav told me to go this way, and they do.

MURPHY: Some villagers cross it every day. Will he make it? Of course he will.

JAMES VERNON, LUCKINGTON RESIDENT: I think that probably (INAUDIBLE) giving it a go, to be honesty. I mean, I know it, because I'm local, but otherwise, if a sat-nav is bringing through here, I think it's probably very, very wrong.

MURPHY: Thankfully, the oldest form of horsepower has no problem with this river. Technology, eat your heart out.

Robert Murphy in Luckington.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I never played anything else, and I never saw a nickel. So we just figured we'd try it.

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WHITFIELD: Why not? A granny hits the jackpot in Atlantic City. She's $10 million richer today, and that's not all. She's already received three marriage proposals, too.

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WHITFIELD: So it turns out a lot of us are finding sexual satisfaction. A new global study suggests equality in a relationship boosts satisfaction between the sheets. Male-dominated societies report less sexual fulfillment. And here's a look at who's getting some satisfaction. Austria tops the list, with 71 percent of sexually satisfied adults. Spain, 69 percent. Canadians and Belgians, also content. And folks in the U.S., well, not doing so badly, with 64 percent sexually satisfied men and women. That's number five on the list. Asian countries make up the bottom five. People in Thailand, China, and Indonesia all report satisfaction rates in the 30s. Those in Taiwan fall just below that, at around 28 percent. And Japanese adults not getting enough. Only about 26 percent satisfaction rate. You can check out the University of Chicago study in this month's "Archives of Sexual Behavior."

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WHITFIELD: Well, here's another question, this one being a very safe one, safe topic. Are you a cat person?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: I had a cat.

WHITFIELD: OK, ever got stuck in the three?

MYERS: No.

WHITFIELD: You've seen them, though.

MYERS: Of course.

WHITFIELD: OK, well, so has Lois Hogan. But she can't believe what she found in her tree this time. It was in Bossier City, Louisiana.

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LOIS HOGAN, HOMEOWNER: All of a sudden, a bear made this horrible noise, and I look up, and there the bear is, right over my head. Well, I couldn't even believe that it was a bear up my tree. When I called 911, she said, a bear? And I said, that's what it looks like to me.

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WHITFIELD: That's right, a bear. Not a cat. Louisiana wildlife workers sedated the black bear, and took her back to a wildlife preserve. This mama bear wandered about 160 miles over the last four weeks, they believe. Somewhere along the way, she lost her two cubs. This 200-pounder wore a red collar and microchip from Louisiana wildlife workers, so that's how they knew. She has a rather bureaucratic name, D-16, and is 12 years old. There have only 600 black bears left in Louisiana. The state is trying to boost the population, but, please, not in Lois Hogan's backyard.

OK, so now what do you think, Chad?

MYERS: If you see one of the two lost cubs, make sure you call police.

WHITFIELD: I know, please do. Don't hurt the cubs. Mama bear is worried.

MYERS: Well, at least they know where mama is. If they do find the cubs, at least they know where mom is because of that tracking device. So they got that.

WHITFIELD: So people, be careful out there. All right, Chad, thanks so much.

MYERS: You're welcome.

WHITFIELD: Fan appreciation night, love that. The last home game of the regular season, and check out how the loyal Dallas Mavericks fans were rewarded last night.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On behalf of American Airlines, free tickets (INAUDIBLE) American Airline for every fan in the building!

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WHITFIELD: Did you get that? American Airlines gave away flight vouchers to 19,000 fans. After all, Dallas is the hub for American Airlines, and they're giving back. A thousand more people watching the game from home also got vouchers. The freebies have an estimated value of more than $3 million, definitely something to cheer about. Lots of smiling faces there.

And smiling faces in Atlantic City, at least one particular woman. A nickel wage and a winner's touch.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I said, I know I hit something. What is it? What did I win?

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WHITFIELD: She won big. A great grandmother enters some really golden years after just making a very small investment in those slot machines. It pays off. CNN LIVE TODAY continues right after this.

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WHITFIELD: Disbelief caught on security camera. The subject of the tape, a newly minted millionaire. The cost of her dream, a handful of nickels. Her story from reporter Kathy Gandalfo (ph).

She is with CNN affiliate WPBI.

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JOSEPHINE CRAWFORD, JACKPOT WINNER: I said, I know I hit something. What is it? What did I win?

KATHY GANDOLFO (ph), WPBI REPORTER (voice-over): Imagine it, 84- year-old Josephine Crawford, having already dropped $100 in a slot machine, moves to this progressive nickel machine. She plays another $20, and then another $20, inside Harrah's Casino. She decides to play the final maximum 60 nickels, $3. CRAWFORD: I saw Megabucks. And I used to play the dollar Megabucks, but I never played anything else. And I never saw a nickel. So we just figured we'd try it.

GANDOLFO: Josephine Crawford, a retired waitress from Galloway Township, hit a record $10,010,113.48 This is the surveillance video provided by Harrah's. It is the biggest slot machine jackpot win ever in Atlantic City, and the largest nickel machine jackpot ever in the U.S.

CRAWFORD: The eagle's here, and I said, you know, I know I won something. I said, oh, look, it says jackpot.

GANDOLFO: Accompanied by her two daughters and a granddaughter, Mrs. Crawford returned to Harrah's to share her incredible story with reporters. She said she is a casino regular, and she was enjoying an overnight stay with her granddaughter.

ALICIA WEEKS, GRANDDAUGHTER: She had $5 left, and she said, well, I don't have any money left anyway, so I'll do the maximum bet this one time. She did it the last time...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The one time.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And the sign came up, and she says, it says, I won the jackpot. What does that mean?

GANDOLFO: On Easter Sunday, Josephine Crawford and her family talked about taking a trip to Italy. You can bet that's going to happen.

(on camera): Have you ever been there?

CRAWFORD: Never. And so my daughters and their husbands, we're all going.

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WHITFIELD: All right, we want to show you -- there's been a behind the closed door meeting between president Hu Jintao of China, as well as President Bush, and earlier today, just prior to their meeting, there was a Chinese heckler in the crowd that disrupted president Hu's speech. That Heckler was taken away by armed and uniformed security, still trying to figure out exactly who she is and how she got access to those rafters there, among the many photographers there.

Meantime, the president of both China and this country are hoping to forge some sort of better relations as it relates to trade, because already this country is enjoying some $200 billion in Chinese products, that the Americans enjoy. Anything you might find in your home, notice that it is made in china.

Well, behind closed doors, the two presidents have been meeting, and now we're about to hear what may have come from this meeting, which started, at least President Hu's visit, four-day visit to the U.S. started 6in Washington State, to end up now in Washington.

Let's listen in on what they had to say.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The president and I will make opening statements. We'll be glad to answer two questions from each side.

Mr. President, welcome.

We just had yet another constructive dialogue. I enjoy my visits with President Hu. He tells me what he thinks, and I tell him what I think, and we do so with respect.

China has important relations with the United States. We obviously have commercial relations that are important. We're working on issues like Iran and Sudan. We got a mutual interest in seeing that the Korean Peninsula is nuclear weapons-free.

And we spent time talking about Taiwan. And I assured the president my position has not changed: I do not support independence for Taiwan.

We don't agree on everything, but we're able to discuss our disagreements in a spirit of friendship and cooperation.

So it's a very important relationship.

And, Mr. President, thank you for your frankness and for our discussions.

HU JINTAO, PRESIDENT, PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): To begin with, I'd like to thank President Bush for his kind invitation and the generous hospitality accorded to me.

And just now, I had a pragmatic and constructive dialogue with President Bush. And during that meeting, President Bush and I had in- depth exchange of views on the China-U.S. relationship and major regional, as well as international, issues of mutual interest.

We have reached an important agreement at the meeting. We both agree that, under the new circumstances, given the international situation here, that China and the United States share extensive common strategic interests. And there is a broad prospect for mutually beneficial cooperation between the two countries.

A good China-U.S. relationship is of strategic significance to the maintenance and promotion of peace, stability and development in the Asia-Pacific region and in the world at large.

We both agree to view and address the bilateral relationship from a strategic and long-term perspective. And we both agree to comprehensively move forward the constructive and cooperative China- U.S. relationship in the 21st century to the benefit of the Chinese and American peoples and peoples around the world.

And during the meeting, I stressed the importance of the Taiwan question to Mr. President.

Taiwan is an inalienable part of Chinese territory. And we maintain, consistently, that, under the basis of the one-China principle, we are committed to safeguard peace and stability in the Taiwan Straits and to the promotion of the improvement and development of cross-Straits relations.

We have the utmost of sincerity and we will do our utmost with all sincerity to strive for the prospect of peaceful reunification.

This being said, we will by no means allow Taiwan independence.

President Bush gave us his understanding on the Chinese concerns. He reiterated the American positions and said that he does not hope that the move taken by Taiwan authorities to change the status quo will upset the China-U.S. relationship, which I highly appreciate.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We both agree to work together to promote the development of the economic ties and trade between the two countries on the basis of our mutual benefit and seeking win-win outcomes.

As for the differences, or even frictions, between the two countries in this regard, we both believe that they may be properly resolved through consultations on an equal footing.

Both Mr. President and I spoke highly of the outcomes from the 17th JCCT meeting, which was held not long ago.

President Bush and I also agree that the two countries need to further increase their exchanges and cooperation in the military, law enforcement, science and technology, culture, education and other fields. We also both agreed to further step up our dialogue and cooperation in such fields as counterterrorism, nonproliferation, the prevention and control of the avian influenza, energy, environmental protection, disaster prevention and relief, and other major issues.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Both sides agreed to continue the efforts to facilitate the six-party talks to seek the proper solution to the Korean nuclear issue. And both sides agreed to continue their efforts to seek a peaceful resolution of the Iranian nuclear issue.

I assured Mr. President that China is willing to work together with the United States and other countries in the world in the joint endeavor to build a harmonious world featuring enduring peace and shared prosperity.

BUSH: Thank you, sir.

QUESTION: President Hu, when will China become a democracy with free elections?

And, President Bush, why have you not been able to persuade China to more quickly revalue its currency?

BUSH: Last July, the Chinese made a major decision on their currency. There has been some appreciation in the currency. We would hope there would be more appreciation in the currency.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I don't know what do you mean by a democracy. But what I can tell you is that we always believe in China that if there is no democracy, there will be no modernization.

Which means that ever since China's reform and opening up in the late 1970s, China, on one hand, has vigorously promoted economic reforms and, on the other, China has also been actively, properly and appropriately moved forward the political restructuring process. And we have always been expanding the democracy and freedoms for Chinese citizens.

In future, we will, in the light of China's own national conditions and the will of the Chinese people, continue to move ahead the political restructuring and to develop the socialist democracy, and we will further expand the orderly participation of Chinese citizens in political affairs so that Chinese citizens will be in a better position to exercise their democratic rights in terms of democratic supervision, democratic management and democratic decision- making.

BUSH: Do you want to call on somebody from the Chinese side?

QUESTION (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I have a question for President Hu Jintao.

How do you view the problems and the disputes between China and the United States in the field of economic ties and trade? And in your view, what kind of measures shall we take to properly resolve these issues?

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The economic ties and trade between China and the United States are an important component of the China- U.S. relationship as a whole. And in this economic ties and trade, I think the mutually beneficial cooperation and win-win outcomes represent the mainstream.

Although the two countries do have different opinions, or sometimes even frictions, in this relationship, what has happened has proven that all these issues or differences can be properly resolved through consultations on an equal footing and further expansion of the mutually beneficial cooperation.

We understand the American concerns over the trade imbalances, the protection of intellectual property rights, and market access. We have taken measures and will continue to take steps to properly resolve the issues.

China pursues a policy of boosting domestic demand, which means that we'll mainly rely on domestic demand expansion to further promote the economic growth of the country.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We do not pursue an excessively high trade surplus.

We have already launched the reform of the RMB Chinese currency exchange rate regime, which has paid off initially. And in the future we'll continue to make efforts to improve the RMB exchange rate regime.

We'll continue to expand market access and to increase the import of American products. As a matter of fact, lately a delegation composed of Chinese business people have been to the United States, and during their trip they have totally signed 107 commercial contracts or agreements with a total value of over $16.2 billion.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The U.S. technology products export to China, particularly in the field of the export of high-tech products, are quite incompatible with the economic might of the United States.

I hope that the United States government will be able to relax or ease the restrictions imposed on these exports, particularly high-tech exports to China.

And we also hope that the U.S. government will be able to create a level playing field for Chinese businesses who want to enter the American market.

And this will certainly help bring down the trade deficit of the United States. And this will also contribute to the further sound and stable growth of the trading ties and economic cooperation between the two countries.

BUSH: Let me say something on this.

First of all, that was a very comprehensive answer, and I appreciate that, Mr. President.

I'm heartened by the president's answer because he recognizes that a trade deficit with the United States is essentially -- what it is is unsustainable.

I appreciate his statement very much because the American people -- all we want to do is be treated fairly in the international marketplace.

He's used the word "win-win," and that's a very important concept when it comes to economics that are mutually beneficial.

Market access is very important.

And I appreciate your commitment to that, Mr. President.

What also is very much important is that as the Chinese society evolves, that it becomes an economy that is not export-driven, but consumer-driven. And I appreciate the government's commitment to that evolution, because as there's more consumers and market access, it'll mean that U.S. small businesses and businesses and farmers will have a chance to be able to find new markets.

Obviously, the Chinese government takes the currency issue seriously, and so do I.

And finally, I want to remind our citizens, as the president said earlier, exports to China are up by 21 percent. And that means jobs.

And so we're going to continue to work on this very important relationship to make sure the playing field is level.

QUESTION: Have you persuaded President Hu to go along with tougher actions against Iran if necessary, such as sanctions?

And, President Hu, is there more you can do to influence North Korea to give up nuclear weapons?

BUSH: The first goal of any dialogue with a partner with whom we're trying to create peace is to have a common objective, a stated goal. And we have a common goal, and that is that Iran should not have the nuclear weapon, the capacity to make a nuclear weapon, or the know-how of how to make a nuclear weapon.

And the second goal is to be in a position where we can work on tactics.

And one of the tactics that I've been talking to the president about is the use of the United Nations Security Council Chapter 7 to send a common message to the Iranians that China and the United States and E.U.-3 countries all deeply are concerned about the Iranian ambition.

China's an important voice in international affairs. And I will continue to work with the president to strategize as to how best to achieve our important goal, which is an Iran without the capacity, the know-how or a nuclear weapon.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): As our friends may know, on the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula, China has always been persuading the parties for their reconciliation and promote the talks for a peaceful solution. And we have always been making constructive efforts to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula.

It is exactly thanks to the concerted efforts of the parties involved that in September last year the six parties had their fourth round of talks and successfully concluded a joint statement as an initial result, which has not come easily.

HU (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The six-party talks have run into some difficulties at the moment. I hope that the parties will be able to further display flexibility, work together and create necessary conditions for the early resumption of the talks.

QUESTION (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I would like to know what is on your mind and what kind of things you can do to facilitate the people- to-people and cultural exchanges between the two countries.

BUSH: You know, I remember giving -- the first graduation speech I ever gave as president was to Notre Dame. And I distinctly remember a number of Chinese students that were there who had gotten advanced degrees.

It is a vivid reminder that one of the best ways for there to be exchange is for there to be an exchange of students. I think the more U.S. students who study in China and the more Chinese students who study in the United States will lead to lasting understanding, which is very important for future relations.

Obviously, there'll be exchanges in the arts.

There's a great interest in the United States about the Chinese arts and the history of Chinese arts.

There's going to be sports exchanges. Yao Ming -- I mean, he's a perpetual exchange. He's a great player and he's here all the time.

The Olympics will bring great opportunity for us to have interchange.

There's all kinds of ways for the United States and Chinese people to get to know each other. And I look forward to encouraging those kind of avenues of dialogue.

Presidents can talk, but sometimes the best way to have lasting friendship is for there to be a lot of people-to-people exchanges.

Thank you very much.

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