Return to Transcripts main page
Your World Today
New Day for U.S. and Libya; Patrolling U.S.-Mexico Border; Rampage in Sao Paulo
Aired May 15, 2006 - 12:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: A new day for the U.S. and Libya. Closer ties are on the horizon as the U.S. gets set to remove the country from its terror list.
JIM CLANCY, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Patrolling the border between the U.S. and Mexico. There's already one type of uniform involved in that effort. But if President Bush gets his way, there may soon be others.
And then...
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How uncommon is this attack?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, it's very uncommon. As a matter of fact, since 1948 we've been keeping records. There's only been 18 fatal human attacks.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: But some just happen. From jogging one minute, to being taken the next to a murky underwater lair gripped by some very powerful jaws, lightning-fast alligator attacks in Florida.
It is noon in Washington, D.C., 6:00 p.m. in Tripoli, Libya.
I'm Hala Gorani.
CLANCY: I'm Jim Clancy. Welcome to our viewers throughout the world and in the United States.
This is YOUR WORLD TODAY.
GORANI: For the first time in over a quarter century, Libya will be taken off a U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism. The move wraps up a process that began three years ago when Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi surprised the world by agreeing to give up his weapons program.
Elise Labott joins us now from Washington with more on that.
How will this change things, Elise?
ELISE LABOTT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Hala, as you mentioned, over the last couple of years, there has really been an uptick, in relations between the U.S. and Libya, and the U.S. has removed a lot of the sanctions that were on Libya because of their weapons of mass destruction program. And there's been an increase in relations, an increase in programs.
The United States has already upped its programs there. But what you'll see now is a lot more commercial ties, a lot more diplomatic relations. Ultimately, the U.S. officials are saying there could be some visits to Tripoli and here to Washington by senior officials.
And obviously, this is not very happy news for the families of the Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988. We've been reaching out to them today about the news. Some of them not saying that they're very happy about the news, but Assistant Secretary David Welch, making the announcement today, said Libya has really paid attention to the needs and demands of the international community, and it's time for them to be rewarded for that.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAVID WELCH, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE: I think their courage and commitment has to be recognized. This -- Libya is -- has -- is out of the terrorism business, and that has saved additional lives.
The families' concerns, I don't think, in terms of the emotional damage to them, speaking as a parent of children, I don't think we could ever really address those. And I want to repeat that I have a lot of sympathy for their loss, having lost a friend myself on board Pan Am 103. That said, the requirements we put in front of the government of Libya to address this issue have been met.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LABOTT: And that includes renouncing terrorism, cooperating with that Pan Am 103 bombing investigation, handing over certain suspects, and handing over its weapons of mass destruction. A lot of those weapons, Hala, as you know, ended up in the United States when they dismantled the program.
GORANI: All right. Elise, we see how things are changing politically, diplomatically. How about economically? Oil companies have major interests in oil-producing Libya. Did they factor into this decision at all?
LABOTT: Well, oil companies have been lobbying Congress very heavily to do business in Libya, and a lot of congressmen over the last year have said that, you know, it's time for the U.S. to increase its business relationship with Libya. U.S. officials are saying this is not related to commercial interests. Obviously, the U.S. has a huge demand for oil with the oil prices being as it is, but they say that there really has to be a roadmap here for countries to rehabilitate themselves and show that if they do so they can have better relations with the West, better relations with the United States.
So, certainly oil companies are lining up to do business in Libya. And Libyan officials we spoke to today very, very happy about the news -- Hala.
GORANI: Elise Labott at the State Department -- Jim.
CLANCY: For more on this move, let's go now to Ali Aujali. He is the chief of the Libyan liaison office in Washington.
Thank you so much for being with us.
From Libya's perspective, what's important about this day?
ALI AUJALI, CHIEF OF LIBYAN LIAISON OFFICE IN WASHINGTON: Thank you very much.
This is a great day in the Libya-America relations. We've been waiting for this day for quite some time.
I've been here in Washington since September 2004. Both -- both parties worked very hard to achieve what we have achieved, cooperation, and helping each other to fight terrorism. This is a great day for the America-Libya relations.
CLANCY: What prompted this change? Some say it was because of a successful effort to isolate and ostracize Libya, that Moammar Gadhafi and others simply got tired being on the outside. What do you think was the prime factor that moved Libya to make all of the necessary moves?
AUJALI: Well, we -- you know that the policy (ph) has been changed and the world has been changed a lot. And we calculated from the economic point of view. Libya's been losing more than $5 billion a year. And I think this is the right time, and our leader, Moammar Gadhafi, he is a wise man to come out and to make the important (INAUDIBLE) when he abandoned the weapons of mass destructions. And we accept the responsibility of our citizens for their action.
CLANCY: Obviously, sir, this is a difficult day for some people, people who lost loved ones, and any one of a number of airline flights that were bombed like Pan Am 103, like the disco bombing, other cases that have come out here. And they would ask a real question here about whether Moammar Gadhafi is, or Major Jalud (ph), the other leader in the regime, getting off lightly here. No one believes that those people who that been accused and convicted in the Lockerbie bombing were the ones that ordered those bombings.
AUJALI: Well, I think I do understand the suffering of the families. We do whatever we can to show our sympathy to them.
CLANCY: Do you ever see the day...
AUJALI: I'm sorry?
CLANCY: ... when Moammar Gadhafi will name who ordered those bombings?
AUJALI: Well, I think this is -- there is a lot to say about this incident. And there are many books that have been written. Many reports now showing many stories behind that. And I think it's not maybe the right time to discuss that right now.
But the main thing, that Libya shows its determination, it is confidence that we have good relations with the United States. We also have met with some of the families here, myself, and some of them are really happy to see our presence in Washington, D.C. Of course we cannot make all of them happy, but this is the -- this is the case now.
CLANCY: On another note, what will it do for those Libyan citizens that have been in the United States legally and have wanted to go back and forth to Libya?
AUJALI: They want to go back to Libya, they are very welcome to come back to Libya. We do everything possible for them to have (INAUDIBLE) and to assist their wives who are married to Americans to give them visas. And it is open. It is their country, and it is open to them any time they want to go.
CLANCY: Ali Aujali, chief of the Libyan liaison office there in Washington.
I want to thank you for being with us. This is an important day for Libya, Tripoli, as well as it is for the U.S. and Washington.
AUJALI: Thank you very much. It is a remarkable day. Thank you.
CLANCY: Well, for our CNN International viewers, "INSIGHT" is going to have much more on this story. Jonathan Mann will have more on the decision on "INSIGHT" about two hours from now.
GORANI: Well, we turn to the hot topic, debate in the United States over what to do about illegal immigration.
CLANCY: That's right. U.S. President George W. Bush looking at a plan that would bring thousands of National Guard troops to that border between Mexico and the U.S. That border extends about 3,200 kilometers, encompassing four U.S. and six Mexican states.
GORANI: More than half of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. come from Mexico.
CLANCY: The U.S. Border Patrol arrested nearly 1.2 million people trying to cross the border last year. It estimates 500,000 others evaded capture.
GORANI: Well, the Bush administration is stressing the point that troops that would be deployed along that border would only serve in a supportive role in the effort to stop people from crossing the border illegally.
Joining us now live from the White House is Kathleen Koch, with more on what we expect the president to say tonight in a rare televised speech -- Kathleen. KATHLEEN KOCH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hala, and there are already some strong concerns being expressed by the U.S.' neighbor to the south about just what the president will say tonight. The president of Mexico, Vicente Fox, called President Bush over the weekend. They had a 30-minute discussion in which Fox said that he was worried about any move to militarize the roughly 2,000-mile-long border along the south.
Many lawmakers here at home, meanwhile, are very worried that following through with this plan to deploy somewhere under 10,000 National Guard troops along the southern U.S. border, that that would overextend the National Guard, what with so many of them, thousands of them already in Iraq. And then the hurricane season in the U.S. just a few weeks away.
Still, the White House points out that this plan would involve less than three percent of the U.S. National Guard troops, and that the arrangement would only be temporary.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHEN HADLEY, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: It's not about militarization of the border. It's about assisting the civilian border patrol in doing their job, providing intelligence, providing support, logistics support, and training, and these sorts of things.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KOCH: National Guard planners right now are talking to the governors of the four states involved, New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, and California, about just how this plan would work. But the new White House press secretary, Tony Snow, this morning would not answer reporters' questions on two key issues, just how long the arrangement would last and who would pay for it.
The new get-tough measure that the president will be announcing tonight is really to help bolster support among conservatives. Many of them here in the United States are very concerned that current immigration reform plans would simply -- simply put too many illegal immigrants on a path to citizenship, being tantamount to amnesty. The president says that is not the case, but he still believes that this border patrol measure will go a long ways to allaying some of their concerns about toughening the porous U.S. border.
GORANI: And what are we starting to hear about that, Kathleen, among conservatives who initially opposed George Bush's plan to regularize, to legalize illegal immigrants, a guest worker program? Are we starting to hear that they're welcoming this move by the president that will be announced tonight?
KOCH: I think they're going to wait and see just precisely what it involves. Obviously, we do have a lot of the details, but there are still many more to be determined. And I think they're also waiting to see what happens with the debate up on the Hill that could start as soon as this afternoon. The Senate reaching that compromise late last week. So I think they're really waiting to see what does come out of the White House tonight, Capitol Hill this week, before they formulate any judgments on it.
GORANI: All right. And we're all waiting, as well, for that speech and that announcement. CNN will have live coverage of Mr. Bush's address on immigration reform. That begins at 00:00 hours GMT on Tuesday.
CLANCY: Well, game-fixing, illegal betting, and even kidnapping.
GORANI: Well, after all, this is what Italy -- is this what Italy's hopes for the World Cup are?
And gang leaders keep Brazil's Sao Paulo in a state of fear, and they're doing it from behind bars.
You're watching YOUR WORLD TODAY. Stay with us.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
CLANCY: Welcome back. This is YOUR WORLD TODAY.
More than 70 people are now reported dead amid violence that has gripped Brazil's Sao Paulo state for four days. The culprits, a criminal gang taking revenge against an attempted crackdown on their operations. The violence is being orchestrated from behind prison bars.
Shihab Rattansi explains.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SHIHAB RATTANSI, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Authorities have braced for trouble, but nothing like this. Brazilian commentators are comparing Sao Paulo to war-torn Iraq, calling the wave of prison uprisings as attacks on police and security forces across the state that began on Friday night. Little comfort for those grieving that the catalyst for the violence was an attempt by authorities to crack down on the state's largest gang, the First Capital Command, known by its Portuguese initials PCC.
Despite being behind bars, the PCC's leaders still control drug and arms trafficking, kidnappings, bank robberies, and extortion on the outside, according to the police. The transfer of several of the gang's leaders to a new maximum security facility deep in Sao Paulo's interior was meant to decapitate the PCC. Instead, it led to yet another emphatic show of the gang's strength.
Brazil's president was quick to point to the roots of the country's law and order problems.
LUIZ INACIO LULA DE SILVA, BRAZILIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): If we want to end this violence with the criminals and these organizations, we need to invest in education. That is the best weapon to create fewer gangs and more doctors. RATTANSI: Others, however, have suggested more immediate and elemental steps, taking away the mobile phones of imprisoned gang leaders and the rooting out of corrupt prison officials. It was a mass prison uprising in 2001 that first proved the power of the PCC. This weekend's violence suggests authorities have achieved little so far in response.
Shihab Rattansi, CNN.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
GORANI: Well, Indonesia is ordering more evacuations away from the volcano known as the "Mountain of Fire". The danger from Mount Merapi in the heart of densely-populated Java Island has escalated. The volcano has been rumbling for weeks and is now -- you can see it there -- spewing smoke, gas and hot ash down its slopes.
Thousands of people already have left and are crowded into shelters. Although some 200 villagers close to the danger zone are refusing to budge.
CLANCY: Indonesia has more volcanoes than any other country. In all, 500. One hundred thirty of those considered to be active.
Mount Merapi is the most active. It's located on the country's central Java Island. Merapi literally means fiery mountain. The volcano is considered to be sacred by some, and every year a priest climbs to the very top to make an offering.
GORANI: Now, Italy's biggest football club is being accused of dropping the ball in a match-fixing scandal that has rocked the country.
Alessio Vinci has more on fallout from allegations that range from game-fixing to illegal betting.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ALESSIO VINCI, CNN ROME BUREAU CHIEF (voice over): More than 40 people, manager, referees and football association officials, are all under investigation on allegations of fixing games, criminal association, fraud, and false accounting. A scandal so serious, the inquiry is in the hands of those who usually investigate the Mafia.
A dissenter of the scandal, Luciano Moggi, the former general manager of one of Italy's top football clubs, Juventus...
"As of Monday, I will have resigned," he said, fighting back tears. "From this day, the world of soccer is no longer my world. Now I will think about defending myself from the malice said about me."
Moggi and other officials deny any wrongdoing, but investigators say Moggi influenced the appointment of referees. Journalist Paddy Agnew just published a book analyzing Italian society and football. PADDY AGNEW, SPORTS JOURNALIST: I think the money part is the least part of it. It's a network of interests. You know, it's a network in which, you know, you do me one favor, I'll do you another back.
It's the way Italian society works, to a certain extent. And they presumably felt that Moggi, a very powerful person, he could do them favors, they would do him favors, and, you know, the system worked fine for them. But the problem is it's left Italian football in a state crisis.
VINCI: Sunday, Juventus won the Italian championship for a record 29th time. But the allegations are about last season. And Italy's leading sports daily suggests Juventus could be stripped of its last two titles.
In Torino, Juventus' hometown, many fans are angry at their team. "They ruined football even if I am a Juventus fan," says this man. "Juventus didn't need this kind of help. We could have won anyway."
And some fans say Juventus relationship with referees was suspiciously cozy. "I hope justice will be done," she says. "If I didn't believe in that, I would have not come to the match. I think there are people who can help us restore confidence in the game."
(END VIDEOTAPE)
GORANI: All right. We're joined by Alessio Vinci live from Rome.
Alessio, I don't think we can underestimate how important the game of football is for Italians. I mean, we can liken it to a baseball scandal in the U.S., for instance. And you have the World Cup coming up. So how is this all going to affect Italian football and the leadup to that crucial World Cup?
VINCI: I think it will, Hala, first of all, because magistrates are also investigating the possibility that the goalkeeper, the national goalkeeper, may be involved in illegal betting. And although the national coach, Marcelo Lippi, has already announced -- has just announced, actually, that he will bring (INAUDIBLE), the goalkeeper to Germany, but there are also allegations, according to documents, court documents -- not court documents -- according to the investigation put forward by the magistrates that Luciano Moggi may also have pressured Marcelo Lippi, the coach, to decide which players should be going to Germany.
Right now today, Marcelo Lippi has announced that five Juventus players will be part of the national team. But of course all these allegations are an additional pressure to the players who are now trying to concentrate, of course, on preparing themselves for the World Cup.
GORANI: All right. And we're a few weeks away.
Alessio Vinci live in the Italian capital. Thank you very much.
CLANCY: This is a huge issue all across Europe. And it's a big issue, I think, for all sports. That's why we want to know what you think. Today's question looks at this brewing scandal in Italian football.
GORANI: And today we're asking you: How does scandal in sport in general -- not just in football -- you might not all be football fans or soccer fans -- how does scandal in sport affect your interest in the game?
CLANCY: E-mail us your thoughts to ywt@cnn.com.
GORANI: Include your name, where you're writing from, and we will read a selection of your messages a bit later in the program.
For our viewers in the U.S., the day's top U.S. stories are next.
CLANCY: And still ahead for our international viewers, we're going to be checking the latest business news from all around the world, including retail giant Target. It's making money. So why are share prices dropping?
We'll have some answers coming up.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
DARYN KAGAN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Daryn Kagan at CNN Center in Atlanta. More of YOUR WORLD TODAY in just a few minutes. First, though, let's check on stories making headlines here in the U.S.
First to the border, and on the razor's edge of the immigration debate. President Bush addresses the nation tonight on his plans to deploy National Guard troops on the U.S. border with Mexico.
A senior administration official tells CNN that fewer than 10,000 troops will help secure the border. They will play only a supportive role to Border Patrol agents. That means they will not apprehend or hold illegal immigrants.
The troops will be under the control of four border states: Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. The federal government will pay for the troop's deployment.
CNN's coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. Eastern. Lou Dobbs joins Wolf Blitzer in a special edition of "THE SITUATION ROOM". Then there's the president's address, which is followed by a special edition of "LOU DOBBS TONIGHT".
Then Larry King is live from the border with immediate reaction and heated debate. And Anderson Cooper will be live from Chicago for reaction from the country's heartland.
CNN's essential coverage all starts at 7:00 p.m. Eastern tonight. Well, speaking of President Bush, he is at this hour at the Peace Officers' Memorial Service in Washington, D.C. He is set to speak in just a bit honoring those police officers who lost their lives in the line of duty over the last year. sa Out of the terrorism business. The U.S. says that Libya has renounced terrorism and will be removed from the list of state sponsors.
The U.S. is restoring full diplomatic relations with Libya for the first time since 1980. Shortly after the fall of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi stopped taunting the West. He then agreed to scrap his programs for missiles and weapons of mass destruction.
The rain will not let up in New England. And after all it's added up, it is -- it may be the region's worst flooding in 70 years.
Hundreds of people have been evacuated in New Hampshire and Massachusetts. High water has shut down part of the Boston suburb of Peabody. Many schools in the area are also closed. Dozens of roads are impassable. There are also concerns about dams giving way.
Bonnie Schneider is watching what's happening in New England and across the country -- Bonnie.
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, Daryn, you know, it's interesting to see those fire trucks trying to go through the water.
(WEATHER REPORT)
KAGAN: Bonnie, thank you.
The Supreme Court decides to stay out of a case about the rights of a gay parent. The high court refused to stop a lesbian from seeking parental rights to a child she helped raise with her former partner. The justices could have used the Washington State case to clarify child custody disputes in nontraditional families.
A third arrest in the Duke lacrosse rape case, that could soon happen. A grand jury is convening today to consider another possible indictment. This after a second round of DNA test results was released.
Lawyers representing the two players charged say they have new tests, found no conclusive match between the accuser and their client. The district attorney has not yet commented.
Well, your kids may have brought home some wacky homework assignments before, but get this: a high school teacher asking his students to write about who they would kill and how they would do it. The teacher in the so-called Show-Me State of Missouri has apologized. Administrators say he is san exceptional educator and he'll likely keep his job.
They do admit, though, that they don't understand why he made that writing assignment. The class subject was drafting.
More coverage of the president's immigration plan at the top of the hour. Lou Dobbs even makes a rare daytime appearance today on "LIVE FROM".
Also ahead, the Bill Cosby interview you have not seen. The outspoken comedy legend had plenty to say to our Tony Harris.
That's all next on "LIVE FROM" at 1:00 p.m. Eastern.
Meanwhile, YOUR WORLD TODAY continues after a quick break.
I'm Daryn Kagan.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GORANI: A warm welcome back to YOUR WORLD TODAY. I'm Hala Gorani.
CLANCY: I'm Jim Clancy, and these are the stories that are making headlines around the world.
The United States says it's going to be removing Libya from the list of state sponsors of terrorism, and will soon restore full diplomatic relations with that North African country. The move comes about three years after Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi renounced support for terrorism and agreed to give up Libya's missiles and weapons of mass destruction.
GORANI: The death toll from a wave of violence sweeping across Sao Paulo today has risen to more than 70. Dozens of police officers have been killed and over 200 prison guards have been hostage in prison uprisings. The violence was sparked by a criminal gang protesting the prison transfer of some of its leaders.
CLANCY: Indonesia is ordering more evacuations away from the volcano known as the mountain of fire. The danger from Mount Merapi, in the heart of densely populated Java Island, has now escalated. The volcano has been rumbling for weeks and is now spewing smoke, gas and hot ash down its slopes.
GORANI: U.S. President George W. Bush is scheduled to address the nation Monday about his plan to crack down on illegal immigration. The plan includes the use of National Guard troops at the U.S./Mexico border in a supporting role that would include surveillance and security. Now, critics say the military is already stretched too thin with deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
CLANCY: Well, the idea of bringing U.S. troops back to the U.S./Mexico border terrifying for the residents of one small Texas border town.
Ed Lavandera reports for us that a deadly shooting incident nine years ago still haunts them today.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On a dusty hilltop overlooking Redford, Texas, a simple white cross marks the spot where 18-year-old Esequiel Hernandez was shot and killed nine years ago. But how he died is a story that still angers the 100 people who live in this far-flung border town 200 miles east of El Paso.
ENRIQUE MADRID, REDFORD, TEXAS, RESIDENT: He wasn't a criminal. He wasn't a drug trafficker. He wasn't a terrorist. He was a teenager. He was going to high school. He was herding goats.
LAVANDERA: Hernandez was carrying a low powered rifle, like many people do here, as the walked his goats near the Mexican border. But hiding in the low lying brush were four U.S. Marines who suspected he was a drug smugglers. The Marines were part of a military task force helping local law enforcement agencies fight the drug cartels.
But what exactly happened on May 20, 1997, has been disputed over the years. The Marines say Hernandez fired at them first. His family doubts that.
But what is certain is that a Marine fired one shot from almost 200 yards away and killed Hernandez. The Marines were cleared of wrongdoing, but the controversy forced the federal government to pull the troops out for good. The idea of bringing back the military does not sit well with people like Enrique Madrid who has lived here all his life.
MADRID: As sure as the sun rises and sets, they are going to kill more people on this border. And that is the danger when you bring troops to the border because you militarize an area and you make the people of that area the enemies of that military.
DEP. JOHNNY SCHULLER, HUDSPETH COUNTY, TEXAS, SHERIFF'S DEPT.: It's definitely a war. It definitely is.
LAVANDERA: About 100 miles west of Redford, a Hudspeth County sheriff's deputy is on night patrol. One of 12 deputy who patrol a 5,000-square mile chunk of west Texas. Twice this year, photographers have captured what the deputies say are images of well armed men dressed in Mexican military uniforms escorting drugs across the border. The Mexican government has denied any involvement.
Chief Deputy Mike Doyle says it's a reminder of how local law enforcement agencies along the southern boarder are outgunned by this criminals.
MIKE DOYLE, HUDSPETH COUNTY CHIEF DEPUTY: You feel like you're the lone ranger on the frontier sometimes. And there's no need for that when there's resources available. We just need them.
LAVANDERA: But in Redford, people look at this cross honoring Esequiel Hernandez and say, be careful what you wish for.
Ed Lavandera, CNN, Redford, Texas.
(END VIDEOTAPE) CLANCY: U.S. President George W. Bush is scheduled to address the nation on Monday about his plan to crack down on illegal immigration. CNN will, of course, have live coverage of that address. That begins at zero hundred hours Greenwich Mean Time Tuesday.
GORANI: Former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein struck a familiar defiant tone when his trial resumed Monday after a three-week delay. Hussein and his seven co-defendants are on trial for the killing of dozens of villagers in Dujail after failed assassination attempts in 1982. The chief judge formally listed the charges against the former Iraqi leader. Well, Hussein refused to enter a plea altogether, and he insisted once again that he was still the president of Iraq.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
RAOUF ABDEL-RAHMAN, CHIEF JUDGE (through translator): Are you guilty or not? Just say no if you don't -- if you want to. You've given a very long speech.
SADAM HUSSEIN, FORMER IRAQI PRESIDENT: We cannot sum it up by one word, are you guilty or no? The Iraq (INAUDIBLE) now is standing before Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq. This is your opinion. I am the president of Iraq. I was elected by the will of the people. And until this minute, I respect the will of the people and I will defend it with honor against the traitors, and against America and its agents.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: All right. Well the defense team, Saddam Hussein's defense team, also began presenting witnesses. All of them testified from behind a curtain for security reasons. The trial adjourned after about five hours and is scheduled to resume Tuesday -- Jim?
CLANCY: Iraqis are looking back and they see that under Saddam Hussein, some things appear to be simpler. One man making all the decision. Now, the Iraqis say they want democracy, but their lawmakers are having a tough time making it work. Talks on a new Iraqi cabinet, still bogged down amid sectarian divisions as a constitutional deadline for completion of that process is nearing.
Prime minister designate Nouri al Maliki's mandate to form a cabinet expires later this month on the 22nd. If he fails, President Jalal Talibani will have 15 days to perhaps choose someone else to try to form a cabinet. To put this in perspective, Iraq's elected officials have been struggling now for five months, since the 15th of December, to forge a unity government.
GORANI: Palestinian security sources say an Israeli missile struck a car in the southern Gaza town on Khan Yunis. One person was killed, three others were injured. Israeli military sources confirm the air strike targeted a terrorist cell. The Israeli defense forces, however, say they are checking that report.
CLANCY: European Union foreign ministers are meeting in Brussels, trying to push forward a plan to funnel emergency aid to the Palestinians while at the same time bypassing the Hamas government. The details of how that funding system would really work are still being hammered out. The E.U. is by far the biggest aid donor to the Palestinians, but it throws much of those funds after Hamas took office. The aid cut-off, along with Israel's decision to withhold the transfer of more than $50 million a month in tax revenues it collects on behalf of the Palestinians, plunging the West Bank and Gaza into a real financial crisis.
GORANI: GORANI: Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas expressed concern about the economic crisis in the territories as he held talks with President Vladimir Putin in the Russian Black Sea resort of Sochi on Monday. In a separate speech, broadcast on Palestinian radio and television, Mr. Abbas expressed hope for a swift renewal of peace talks with Israel.
Wrapping that up for us is John Vause in Jerusalem.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Palestinians call it "Anekbah." It means "the catastrophe," the day Israel declared independence 58 years ago, the start of a war which forced many Palestinians to flee their homes, forefathers to generations of refugees, still living in crowded, squalid camps in Gaza, the West Bank and beyond. On this day, the beleaguered president of the Palestinian Authority called on Israel to resume long-stalled peace negotiations. Make this a year of peace, he said in a televised address. Let's sit at the negotiating table away from unilateral policies, and let's stop the pretext that there's no Palestinian partner.
Israel says it won't negotiate until the Islamic militants, Hamas, the dominant party now in Palestinian politics, recognizes Israel, renounces violence, and honors all previous interim peace deals. Hamas officials say both Israel and the West have misread the political signals.
(on camera): Renounce violence, they ask? Hamas officials say they've mostly stuck to a cease-fire for more than a year. Recognize Israel? The Islamic militants say they're willing to accept a Palestinian state in all of the West Bank and Gaza in exchange for a permanent truce.
GHAZI HAMAD, HAMAS SPOKESMAN: I think sometimes I feel they don't understand, they can not truly -- we sense some signals, some indication, but they close their eyes, and ears and don't want to surrender anything.
VAUSE (voice-over): The Israelis, though, want clear, definitive statements from Hamas.
MARK REGEV, ISRAELI SPOKESMAN: Israel hasn't accepted that sort of double-talk, neither has Europe, neither has America, neither has Canada, neither has Australia, neither has most of the countries in the world. VAUSE: And the Palestinian people are paying a hefty price. A freeze on international aid has brought their public health system close to collapse. And government workers have not been paid for two months. And the European Union is still working on a way to pay some salaries while bypassing the Hamas government.
The Palestinian president also called for militant groups to stop firing crudely made Kassam rockets.
"I call on our brothers to stop firing useless rockets which give Israel the excuse to escalate its aggression against our people in the Gaza Strip," he said.
But the Kassam rockets keep coming, two or three, sometimes more, almost every day. And so, too, the Israeli response: More than 5,000 artillery rounds fired in just over six weeks.
John Vause, CNN, Jerusalem.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
CLANCY: Well, turning our news attention to a completely different story, and the thought of this alone is just terrifying.
GORANI: Now being pulled to a murky underwater lair in the powerful jaws of an alligator. It doesn't seem like reality, but it can happen, and does happen.
CLANCY: And as Susan Candiotti reports, it's been happening a little too often recently in the U.S. state of Florida.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A family feels the pain of losing a loved one in an especially gruesome way. An autopsy found the alligator's victim quickly bled to death when both of her arms were lost in the attack. How uncommon is this attack?
JORGE PINO, FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE OFFICER: Well it's very uncommon. As a matter of fact, since 1948, that we've been keeping records, there's only been 18 fatal human attacks by an alligator.
CANDIOTTI: The death of Yovy Jimenez a first by an alligator in highly populated Broward County. Jimenez went for a jog around 7:00 Tuesday night. The path runs along a canal with a drop-off in some spots that goes down around 15 feet. Some witnesses say they think they saw a woman with her feet near the water. Whether or not that was Jimenez, her family said she did call home and told them she was depressed. Her sister, who did not want to appear on camera, told a local TV station her mother offered to pick up Jimenez.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She said, no, no, no, you're not going to find me and then the communication got cut off. And from there on we never heard from her again. We kept calling and calling and calling and nobody would answer so I guess that's when that happened. CANDIOTTI: Traps baited with hog lungs, cover a 500 yard stretch of canal along a busy highway. Canals attract alligators in search of food when water levels are low in the Everglades, the tail end of dry season, when homeowners have been known to find unwelcomed visitors in their driveways. And alligators find themselves in territory that used to belong exclusively to them.
Susan Candiotti, CNN, Davie, Florida.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
CANDIOTTI: Still ahead on YOUR WORLD TODAY, who's your daddy, or who's your daddy, should I actually say?
CLANCY: According to one psychologist, and this is what we're talking about, your father, the father factor, as he calls it, counts when it comes to whether you'll have success, failure or confrontation in the workplace.
GORANI: All right, why is that? We'll explore the issue in a moment.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GORANI: Welcome back.
CLANCY: Well, what determines success in your job? What is it really? Is it your drive to succeed? Perhaps your social class?
GORANI: How about, who your father was? Or how your father treated you? A U.S. psychologist argues that your father's style of parenting is a crucial factor. Stephan Poulter lists five styles of father:
CLANCY: Super-achieving, time bomb, passive, absent, and compassionate mentor. Poulter says the type of father that you have can determine both why you're good at your job and why you might fail.
GORANI: To elaborate on this we, have Stephan Poulter with us. He joins us now live. He's in our Los Angeles bureau. Thank you for being with us.
All right, let's talk about this, and this, I found that this piqued my interest a bit last week when I heard about your book. Five styles of father determine how you do at work.
Let's start with the absent father. Many people say my father never really was around, or my parents divorced. What kind of worker in the workplace does an absent father produce?
STEPHAN POULTER, AUTHOR: Many times the absent father will produce an angry child, an employee that has an angry personality. But also the side effect is, say, you have an absent father, you never knew him, but your mother knew him, there's myths about him. He had an impact in your life, even though it might not have been direct. What kind of work that would be many times is a person who understands the role of being responsible, commitment to a task, following through, because they've been at the hands of feeling abandoned or rejected.
GORANI: So an overachiever?
POULTER: The overachiever is about always looking good, achievement versus emotional connection. They're excellent at the bottom line, at being very productive.
On the other hand, they're probably not the best personnel people, because they're very task oriented, performance oriented.
GORANI: All right. And don't like authorities sometimes. How about the compassionate mentor father? Those are the men we congratulate for their parenting style. What kind of workers do they produce?
POULTER: They produce leaders. And even if you've had a father like that, you can become a compassionate mentor with the people in your life and surrounding you.
GORANI: We only have a few minutes. Time bomb father. What does that mean and how does that impact your life when you're in the workplace?
POULTER: The time bomb father is unpredictable. We don't know what he's going to do and typically what that does for a child growing up is they're very anxious. And as a worker they became excellent people at reading, very intuitive. Excellent human resource people.
GORANI: All right. Very disciplinary father. Super achieving. You know, rewards the kid for doing well, for getting good grades. What does that do?
POULTER: It does a lot. The piece about the father factor, it's one piece in a puzzle. Many times we're clear about what the mother's role is but when it comes to fathers we're not quite as clear. A performance oriented father many times will teach their children how to have discipline, be goal oriented and very productive.
GORANI: These are some of our psychologists and your patients come to you. How did you determine these results? you came up with these results after years of observing your patients, how they do at work and asking them what type of father they have?
POULTER: Absolutely. I find many people that have done this over the years will come in to see me, they're not -- they don't understand why their career's not taking off. It's not for lack of ability for talent but many times it has to do with authority figure issues. The absent father, not really knowing their father, and being in the workplace. And not really understanding how it all works.
GORANI: Can you overcome the father factor, though? Can you look at it, understand it and say I'm not going to let this get in my way of success?
POULTER: Absolutely. It's never too late to change the legacy.
GORANI: Quick last question. What kind of father did you have?
POULTER: My father tended to be absent.
GORANI: So you're an overachiever suspicious of authority?
POULTER: Yes, I am.
GORANI: All right, Stephen Poulter, author of "The Father Factor." Thank you so much for being with us here on CNN.
CLANCY: Interesting factor, I wonder how the mother factor work in?
GORANI: I think his point is you know that the mother factor is taken into account, has been studied and acknowledged for a long time.
CLANCY: Fathers, always ignored.
GORANI: All right. Time for us to take a short break.
CLANCY: When we come back we want to open up the in box. You're watching CNN.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
CLANCY: OK, Hala, time now for us to open up the inbox.
GORANI: We've been asking you for your thoughts about the scandal infolding in Italian football.
CLANCY: The question was how does scandal in sport affect your interest in the games? Here's how some of you replied.
James from Nevada says, "As long as my team wins, the scandal is the athletes problem."
Paul from South Dakota had this to say. "I refuse to watch any professional sports anymore. I was once an avid fan but have grown tired of all the scandals. That is not the way sports are to be played."
Thomas writes from Canada, "There will always be some level of cheating in sports where money is involved. Take the money out of sport and everything else will fall into place."
And finally Daniel in the Netherlands tells us, "Baseball greats like Babe Ruth didn't need to use drugs. The achievements in baseball don't mean anything if it takes a little extra to get there. I've lost a lot of love for that game."
GORANI: All right. That is it for this hour.
CLANCY: "LIVE FROM" is up next with Betty Nguyen and Tony Harris for our viewers in the U.S., and a closer look at the logistics putting those troops on the U.S./Mexican border.
GORANI: For our viewers elsewhere around the world we'll talk with a family member of one of the victims of Pan Am 103. What do they think of normalizing relations with Libya? I'm Hala Gorani.
CLANCY: For now, I'm Jim Clancy. This is CNN.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com