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The Dixie Chicks Not Sorry; Will Namibia Declare the Birth of Brangelina a National Holiday?; Ryanair`s CEO Says He`ll Walk Naked Through Warsaw if Competitors Drops Fuel Surcharge; Ellen DeGeneres` Emotional Trip Back to New Orleans
Aired May 24, 2006 - 19:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, CNN NEWS ANCHOR: A national holiday named after Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie? I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
SIBILA VARGAS, CNN NEWS ANCHOR: And how to be a boss without using the "B" word. I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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ANNOUNCER: On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, a coast to coast country controversy. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is there as country music`s biggest stars speak out about the Dixie Chicks.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If they`d a made that comment about Saddam Hussein, the next morning they would been drug through the streets of Iraq headless.
ANNOUNCER: Are these singers still angry about the Dixies dissing Bush or are they ready to kiss and make nice?
Plus, tonight how a child who was raped and beaten by a disgusting sex predator saved her own life by using what she saw on TV shows.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We started talking, and when I started asking for things he would go downstairs, and once he was downstairs, I would grab evidence.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the amazing story of how primetime TV helped a young girl live to see another day.
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HAMMER: Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
VARGAS: And I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood. And A.J., let the Dixie duels begin.
HAMMER: You said it, Sibila. And we do mean duel. We are, of course, are talking about the Dixie Chicks and their unapologetic controversial new album on which they basically tell President Bush, too bad if you didn`t like what we said about the war in Iraq. Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can bring you, for the very first, time the biggest names in country music and what they`re saying about all of this. And not all of them are whistling Dixie.
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REBA MCENTIRE, COUNTRY MUSIC ARTIST: I don`t know why we`re so nervous about hosting this show this year. I mean, if the Dixie Chicks can sing with their foot in their mouth, surely I can host this sucker.
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HAMMER (voice-over): Well, there you have it. Reba McEntire taking a shot at the Chicks. Getting a big rise out of the some big stars at the Academy of Country Music Awards, Tuesday night.
MCENTIRE: Oh, thank y`all.
HAMMER: The Dixie Chicks, once the darlings of the country music scene, were nowhere to be found in that audience. But other big names sure were. And only SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has their candid reaction to the controversial group and their new unapologetic album.
MARTINA MCBRIDE, COUNTRY MUSIC ARTIST: I`ve always loved them, so I hope they do well. I`m sure they will.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m not mad at them. I hope the rest of the country isn`t either.
HAMMER: The Texan trio drove a wedge through Nashville and their huge fan base after famously messing are fellow Texan, President Bush, on the brink of war in 2003. At the time, the Dixie Chicks were the biggest thing to happen to country music, with countless awards and tens of millions of albums sold, they were quite simply, on top of the world. But that world came tumbling down. After lead singer Natalie Maines told a London concert crowd, she was ashamed the president was from her home state. Word traveled fast and, before you knew it, this. Brutal backlash, even death threats. The chicks went into hiding.
But now, almost three years later, they`re back, with a defiant new album and a bold single, "Not Ready to Make Nice." SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the Country Music Awards red carpet, asking the stars what they`re thinking now.
AARON TIPPIN, COUNTRY MUSIC ARTIST: I made a comment about president. You know, they had a right to their own opinion, that`s fine, you know, but I hope they realize that if they`d a made that comment about Saddam Hussein, the next morning they would been drug through the streets of Iraq headless.
HAMMER: As far as the chicks were concerned, that might as well have happened. When SHOWBIZ TONIGHT producer, Carrie Hill, sat down with the group they told her the worst part was hearing they were unpatriotic.
NATALIE MAINES, DIXIE CHICKS LEAD SINGER: It was heartbreaking to hear all of this. They doesn`t support the troops, doesn`t support the troops, doesn`t support the troops. But, it was such the opposite. And I hated that people got to use my words against me when, I didn`t support the war, but in my mind, because I do support the troops. Because I support human life and, if you`re going to put people at risk of ending their lives, you better be able to hand us proof.
CARRIE HILL, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT PRODUCER: And ironically, it wasn`t -- weren`t these comments were made after you had dedicated a song...
No. 1 (UNINTELLIGIBLE) "Travelin` Soul." Oh yeah, we went from being the most patriotic to Saddam`s angels.
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HAMMER: But times have changed. The president`s approval rating is now at an all-time low, and even though plenty of people are still mad, more and more are getting behind the Chicks. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT went straight to country superstar Vince Gill and his wife Amy Grant.
VINCE GILL, COUNTRY MUSIC ARTIST: And this country is founded on free speech and, you know, right or wrong or whether you believe, agree, disagree, you know, that right is very much apparent and people live and die and fight and die so we can have that. And to see them kind of crucified for their statements I thought was a little harsh.
HAMMER: Celebrity backing, but will this play in Peoria?
JOE LEVY, "ROLLING STONE" MAGAZINE: This single "Not Ready to Make Nice" is not big on the radio and is really not big on country radio. That`s been their core before and they`ve alienated it.
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HAMMER: Well, even without that radio play for the single, the album is still expected to chart well next week when it finally comes out on the chart. And if it does, that would even surprise the Dixie Chicks because they told us they weren`t exactly sure who their audience even is anymore. And an apology from Emily Robison today, she was quoting yesterday as dissing the ladies of "The View." Basically she said that the show, "The View" is not one that the Dixie Chicks would appear on. Well, today, "View" co-host Meredith Vieira read an apology from her. Robison said she didn`t mean to insult the show and that , quote, "This Chick is eating some crow."
VARGAS: Well, now we want to hear from you with our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Dixie Chicks: Do you mind politics with your music? Go to cnn.com/showbiztonight and send us an e-mail at showbiztonight@cnn.com.
HAMMER: All right. We all know that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are having a baby together is a big deal, as big deals go. But you may have no idea how big a deal it is in Namibia. That is that small African country where Pitt and Jolie have been hiding out waiting for the baby to be born which should happen any day now. How big a deal? Well, listen to this. A Namibian radio station actually has proposed that a national holiday be declared on the day the baby is born. And it`s getting all kind of support. And the Namibia government says foreign journalists must get permission from Pitt and Jolie to enter the country. What`s going on over there? Well, joining us tonight in New York is Lloyd Grove of the "New York Daily News." Here with me in our studio Lola Ogunnaike of the "New York Times."
This is insane. It is nuts, Lloyd. I want to go to you first. Why Namibia? Why are Brad and Angelina there?
LLOYD GROVE, "NEW YORK DAILY NEWS": Well, I`m afraid if they went to some bigger country they might get lost in the shuffle and maybe people would be less interested. I don`t know. But I think, you know, Angelina obviously loves Africa. She`s visited the country before, I think when she was doing "Tomb Raider." So -- but, on the other hand, they`re having their cake and eating it too. They claim they want privacy, but I think they`ve set up the situation to get maxim impacted. You know, this national holiday, I hope they extend it here to the United States, because I could use a day off.
HAMMER: What do you think about that? They really are doing this to have their exclusion, but the spotlight is shining right on them because of this small, little country they`ve holed up in.
LOLA OGUNNAIKE, "NEW YORK TIMES": I mean, A.J. people are acting like the Messiah is being born or baby Jesus. It`s just a kid. It`s just a kid. And, yes, the kid is going to be beautiful and have great genes and the whole nine, but a whole day for this one child? I don`t get it.
HAMMER: Yeah, we`ll get into that holiday thing in just a second. But this is actually turning out to be, Lloyd, a pretty good deal for Namibia.
OGUNNAIKE: Oh, it`s huge for Namibia.
HAMMER: I mean, I would ask why Namibia would they want them, but look, this is a nation that`s, what, about 12 years old, you can`t beat the publicity.
GROVE: Yeah. I mean, suddenly it`s on the map. I mean, maybe some people -- maybe I will take a vacation in Namibia and see their wonderful Burning Shore Resort, maybe even try and stay in the room where Angelina and Brad waited for this great miracle to occur. How exciting.
OGUNNAIKE: I love that there is going to be like a Brangelina rollercoaster, there`s going to be like a Namibian -- a Brangelina theme park and everyone`s going to be headed out there. It`s huge for Namibia.
GROVE: I want to go there just to mail a postcard with a Brangelina stamp with the new baby.
HAMMER: Well listen, they might not just end up open the stamp, but they`re actually, potentially dictating how things are done over there. They are getting to say who gets to come in the country, Lloyd. How insane is that?
GROVE: Well, I`m glad somebody is running immigration policy. I think Lou Dobbs might suggest that they do that here, too, after they`re through in Namibia.
OGUNNAIKE: On a serious note, though, it is kind of ridiculous that these two celebrities have taken over, you know, their equivalent of the first amendment, if they even have one, and said, that look, journalists aren`t free there. They have to check with Brad and Angelina to see if it`s OK. It`s definitely something that wouldn`t happen in this country, and I do think that`s over the top.
HAMMER: It is a little strange. And, you mentioned the idea, and we were talking about this absurd idea of a national holiday. I mean, this is nuts, right?
OGUNNAIKE: I would like to think so. But, again, maybe this is their way of saying thank you. This has been huge for the country. You can`t get any better P.R. than this. And I think that may be their way of saying thank you. I don`t know if it`s the best way to go about saying thank you, but...
HAMMER: And Lloyd, to be clear, you know, this is a radio station that proposed this, not the government, that a national holiday be declared on the day this baby is born.
GROVE: Well, I don`t know, it might be a government radio station. So, you know, I think it might happen. So far I think it`s equally divided, yes or no, but, why not a national holiday in Namibia. That`s my question. Why not?
HAMMER: Well listen -- why not? And we do no that Angelina has had a tremendously positive impact and influence in Africa where she spent a lot of time working with some really truly amazing causes. When I spoke with her a few weeks ago she talked about, you know, the education program that she`s trying to get, you know, get education going in nations where it simply doesn`t exist. She not only has had tremendous influence there, Lola, but on Brad Pitt as well. I mean, is this guy ever going to be the same Brad Pitt that we once knew?
OGUNNAIKE: We`ll never look at him the same at all. He`s an international traveler, he`s a humanitarian now as of hooking up with Angelina Jolie. It`s been really incredible for him. Him and Jennifer Aniston were hot and people knew them and people talked about them, but he has not had this much press in years. So, this has been major for him.
HAMMER: Yeah, this is definitely...
GROVE: This is great for a 42-year-old aging movie star.
HAMMER: One of the smartest things he could have done. All right, guys. Thank you very much for chiming in on it, tonight. Lola Ogunnaike and Lloyd Grove, we appreciate you joining us here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
OGUNNAIKE: Thank you.
VARGAS: Coming up, the secrets to staying together. Some of you celebrities, you may want to take notes here. The well-known woman who`s talked about making marriage work on Oprah, that`s coming up next.
HAMMER: It`s a wet Willis. Huh? Yeah, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT shows you what came over the ledge while Bruce Willis was being interviewed for "Over the Hedge." I want to see that again. And we will. Plus, we`ve got this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I saw him beating my brother and I heard my brother yelling, please, don`t kill me. And I said, please leave him alone, it`s me that you want.
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VARGAS: A stunning story of survival, tonight, how a young girl who was beaten and raped stayed alive because of what she saw on TV shows, that story still to come.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT TV`s most provocative entertainment news show, I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Time now for a story that made us say, "That`s Ridiculous."
All right, so, Europe, you may know, has a bunch of these no-frills airlines, you can get these cheap fairs for what is, quite frankly, very, very stripped down service. But the CEO, this guy, one of those characters has gotten a little carried away. He`s taken "strip down" perhaps, a little to literally. Ryanair`s Michael O`Leary says he`ll walk naked through Warsaw Poland if one of his competitors, which is based there, LOT Airlines, drops its fuel surcharge on tickets. These friendly skies a little too friendly for our taste, so we say, "That`s Ridiculous." And what confuses me about this strategy here, Sibila, is the guy not only wants the other airline to drop their prices, making them more competitive, he`s also going to get naked. Where does he win in all of this?
VARGAS: I don`t know. But I`d like to see his bluff being called. But by the way, you`re also going to love this, A.J. Ryanair is calling the challenge, the Fuel Monty.
HAMMER: Of course it is.
VARGAS: Well, tonight a sneak peek at Ellen DeGeneres` emotional trip back to New Orleans. The talks how host just toured her hometown for the first time since Hurricane Katrina devastated the area last August.
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ELLEN DEGENERES, TALK SHOW HOST: Look at this on the left. It looks like a war zone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There`s not really a whole lot being done. There`s huge spaces where you just look down either way and it`s deserted.
It`s as though the water just lifted everything up and it floated everywhere and landed or just washed it away completely.
DEGENERES: Look at that house over there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They cleared up the houses, but most of the houses shifted and landed in the middle of the street. So, you can`t even drive down the street.
So, the break is off here to the left.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We stop here.
DEGENERES: How many months has this been? Nine.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. I just want everybody to see what is still happening here after all these months.
DEGENERES: That`s what we`re doing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Great, and I appreciate you doing that. So thank you very much.
DEGENERES: We`re trying to keep reminding them that this is unacceptable.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is completely unacceptable.
DEGENERES: Hi. How are you, Ellen. What`s happening here?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This house here, isn`t it amazing? Where the water just blew out (UNINTELLIGIBLE) took them out. So, it`s pretty shocking. But, the best thing people can do is to come and see it.
DEGENERES: Yeah, spend their money. And...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have hotels, we have the French Quarter. Spend their money.
DEGENERES: That`s right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And help us rebuild. That`s the best thing to do.
DEGENERES: Well, we`ll do our best.
Wow.
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VARGAS: Pretty powerful stuff there. Now, you can see more of Ellen`s trip back to New Orleans including a rare chat with the former Presidents Bush and Clinton about the Katrina aftermath, tomorrow, on "Ellen."
HAMMER: Well, the words death -- "`til death do us part" seems to really be losing their meaning these days. Paul McCartney and Heather Mills just breaking up. Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards, we`ve all heard about. Breakups just rampant in Hollywood and half of all marriages end in divorce. So, what`s the deal? Robin Smith might know. She is the author of this book, it is a best seller No. 1 on the "New York Times" list right now, "Lies at the Altar." She`s also a frequent contributor to the "Oprah Winfrey Show." Robin Smith joining me here in New York.
It is a pleasure to meet you.
ROBIN L. SMITH, AUTHOR, "LIES AT THE ALTER": It`s great to meet you, too.
HAMMER: You are an expert at this stuff, so I want to talk to you about the fact that a lot of people going into marriages fantasize about what it should be like. And, because of the way our culture operates, a lot of our fantasies come from what we see on television and what we see in the movies. So, does media really give us sort of a false sense of what marriage is truly all about.
SMITH: Absolutely. I mean, media does, television, movies, and also our culture in general. I mean it`s, you know, the beautiful people who have the beautiful marriage, who have the beautiful kids, who have the perfect home, and people are then seeking this illusion. So, you`re in search of something that doesn`t exist. That, in and of itself, just is sabotaging marriages. And not only are people getting divorced at 50 percent or more, but second marriages are even failing at a higher rate than first.
HAMMER: Oh, wow.
SMITH: And people don`t know that. Why? Because we haven`t learned the lesson from the first failed marriage. So it really is about coming out of the fantasy and creating something that is real and tangible and obtainable for all of us.
HAMMER: Yeah, we don`t like to live in reality sometimes, do we? And it`s amazing that the numbers, that 50 percent number, hasn`t gone down as long as I`ve been alive. In this book you deal with a lot of lies and truths. I want to talk about a couple of those specifically. Let`s bring up this particular lie, which I found interesting. You say, quote, "If the package is beautifully wrapped, its contents there been fabulous. That`s the lie. The truth being, the packaging doesn`t tell you anything about what`s inside." Basically, can`t judge a book by its cover.
SMITH: Right. And beauty is only skin deep. I mean, you have to really look at what is on the inside of someone. And if we, you know, haven`t kind of learned that yet, we would hope that our pain, our failed relationships, our failed marriages, would teach us that the package can be glories, it can be so seductive, it can make us think, I want that, but we don`t realize the thing that we keep saying we want, then we watch on television and we see that thing isn`t existing anymore.
HAMMER: Yeah. And you go back to Hollywood with all of the beautiful people, and now we see all their flaws coming out when we really get to know them.
SMITH: Right.
HAMMER: Another lie you mentioned, "marriage magically changes people for the better."
SMITH: Right.
HAMMER: That`s the lie, of course. "The truth is, the person at the altar will be the person at the breakfast table." The fact is, going into a marriage, and I assume this is part of your point here, if things aren`t going well, just because you suddenly put on the out fits and go do the ceremony, doesn`t mean things are going to, you know, spice up.
SMITH: Absolutely. Well, and the fact is, it is really insulting, when you think about it, that someone would get married, saying I`m going to love, honor, and cherish you. But, underneath what I`m really thinking is, this drives me crazy, that drives me crazy, I was never really excite about your family, I don`t like this quirk of yours. And guess what I`m going to do? I`m going to spend the next 10 to 15 years trying to change you.
HAMMER: Yes.
SMITH: Now, you don`t know that and maybe I don`t even know it, but that`s the plan. And so there`s no way that could ever create a healthy, you know, alive, and vivacious marriage.
HAMMER: People need to really talk and get to know one another.
SMITH: Absolutely.
HAMMER: Before moving it forward.
SMITH: Absolutely. Yeah, there are 276 questions in this book.
HAMMER: Go through each one of them.
SMITH: And know your answer for yourself and then for the other person.
HAMMER: Robin L. Smith, pleasure to meet you.
SMITH: Thank you.
HAMMER: Really interesting stuff in here. The book is called "Lies at the Altar" and you`ll find it in book stars now.
VARGAS: If your boss is a woman or you are a woman who wants to be the boss out there, well pay attention to this. We`ve got the ways to do it without being called the "B" word.
HAMMER: Also, a milestone birthday for Bob Dylan, kind of hard to believe. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reveals the surprising connection he has to "Brokeback Mountain," that`s coming up next. Plus, we`ve got this:
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We started talking, and when I started asking for things he would go downstairs, and once he was downstairs, I would grab evidence.
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VARGAS: A young girl`s horrific story, she was raped, beaten and nearly killed. Tonight how the TV shows she watched have helped save her life. That`s coming up.
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VARGAS: Boy, the times certainly are a changing. Bob Dylan turns 65 today.
There he is. Calling him the voice of a generation, may sound cliche, but it`s right on. This guy gave us some the most anti-war pro-social change songs ever. "Blowing in the Wind," "Like a Rolling Stone," "The Times are a Changing." Dylan`s publicist didn`t say whether he`s got anything big planned for the big six-five, but his hometown of Hibbing, Minnesota is certainly hoping he`ll show up.
Now, we also learned from the "Hollywood Reporter" today that Heath Ledger and Michelle Williams, both nominated for "Brokeback Mountain," will join the cast, "I`m Not There." It`s a movie about Dylan`s life.
HAMMER: Well, actor Casper Van Dien, you know him for his big action roles, is opening up history about a sexual predator, how he`s using his terrifying tale to help others, it`s coming up next. Plus, we`ve got this:
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I saw him beating my brother and I heard my brother yelling, please, don`t kill me. And I said, please leave him alone, it`s me that you want.
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VARGAS: A stunning story of survival. Tonight, how a young girl who was beaten and raped stayed alive because of what she saw on TV shows.
HAMMER: And it`s a wet Willis. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, shows you what came over the ledge while Bruce Willis was being interviewed for "Over the Hedge." You will not want to miss it. We`re coming right back.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT for Wednesday night. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
VARGAS: And I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood. This is TV`s most provocative entertainment news show.
HAMMER: Sibila, you obviously know Casper Van dien, the actor from "Starship Troopers," you have heard he`s not a new Hallmark movie that`s going to be on this weekend. What you may not know is how he took a troubled experience, a really bad incident from his childhood, and is using it to motivate himself to help other kids and protect other kids. It`s a really good story doing good work coming out of a bad situation. Casper`s going to be here to tell us all about it coming up in a few.
VARGAS: I`ve always liked him, so it add another layer. I`m curious to hear that. And also tonight we`ve got two authors (UNINTELLIGIBLE) a "The Girl`s Guide to being a Boss" and it`s all al you nasty women out there, or nasty bosses, and you know who you are. It teaches you how to be a boss, and how to be in charge but not necessarily being a witch. So you`re going to have to stay tuned for that.
But first we have an amazing survival for you. A (UNINTELLIGIBLE) young woman`s courage when she was brutally attacked and then kidnapped. She used her wits to get away and lead police to the suspect and she had a little help from an unlikely place, when she thought back to things she had learn from watching "Law and Order" on television. Here`s CNN Kareen Wynter for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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KAREEN WYNTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The last time 12-year-old Jeannette Tamayo walked up to this northern California liquor store was nearly three years ago at the end of an ordeal that no child should ever have to suffer.
JEANNETTE TAMAYO, RESCUED FROM KIDNAPPING: I remember being dropped off, just crying.
WYNTER: It`s painful, but Jeannette needed to come back.
TAMAYO: I`m sorry. I feel like throwing up.
WYNTER: Her story began in this San Jose house on a quiet summer afternoon in 2003. She was alone. A neighbor`s grainy surveillance video captured Jeannette coming home from school. Moments later, the same video shows a stranger approaching the house. He forced his way in and raped Jeannette. The video also shows the attacker about to drive off with Jeannette, when her mother and older brother, Pablo, came home. That`s when he attacked them.
TAMAYO: I saw him beating my brother and I heard my brother yelling, please don`t kill me. And I said please leave my brother alone, it`s me that you want.
WYNTER: The stranger used a frying pan to beat Jeannette`s mother.
TAMAYO: And he got into the car and I saw blood on his face and I said, did you kill my mom? And he started to laugh, and the man grabbed a screwdriver and started stabbing me on my forehead and on my neck and on my chest. And that`s when I looked down, and I said to myself, there`s no way I`m going to get out of here alive.
WYNTER: With Jeannette in his car, the attacker fled. He took her to a home that turned out to be just a few blocks away.
TAMAYO: And he grabs me, he took me upstairs to a room where you have to have a key in order to get in and out.
DISPATCHER: San Jose emergency, what are you reporting?
NEIGHBOR: Can you please send cops over here because something happened to my neighbor`s daughter.
WYNTER: Over the next two days, her abductor sometimes let Jeannette watch television. That`s how she found out there was an intense police search underway. She saw her own missing poster on the news.
TAMAYO: When I saw my brother and my mom, I said, they`re OK, I can get out of here.
WYNTER: The fourth grader`s survival instincts kicked in. She then found a way to slip in and out of her handcuffs.
TAMAYO: I started gaining his trust, and then we started talking, and when I started asking for things he would go downstairs and while he was downstairs, I would grab evidence. And then when I would hear him come back up the stairs, I would put the handcuffs back on me and lay back in bed.
WYNTER: Jeannette hid evidence like the man`s watch and Play-Doh she`d been given to play with in various places around the house, including this pizza box. She made marks on the wall to prove she was there. Jeannette said her abductor tried suffocating her several times with a pillow, but she convinced him to stop.
TAMAYO: They feed on fear, so it`s just a matter of staying calm and communicating with them.
WYNTER: And eventually on the third day, she talked him into letting her go.
TAMAYO: And he dropped me off at a liquor store and said to me, "If you tell anyone this," he grabbed me by my hair and he said, "If you tell anybody about this, I will come back for you."
WYNTER: As incredible as it seems, at that crucial moment, Jeannette remembered the need for evidence.
TAMAYO: I asked him for money and that`s how I got his fingerprints. I got the idea from, especially, "Law and Order" the questions that they would ask them, and the other people that were kidnapped or whatever tried to get out of it and I tried to do the same thing. And all I had was hope inside of me because I know my parents an my brother were still alive.
WYNTER (on camera): I know it`s one thing to see drama unfold on television, but did you ever imagine that you`d become a victim yourself?
TAMAYO: No, I never did. And I`m glad I watched it.
LT. LAURENCE RYAN, SAN JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT: For her to come forward and provide us with all this information, it was something I`ve never seen before and probably will never see again.
WYNTER: It wasn`t enough for Jeannette to simply describe the horror of what happened. She wanted to lead police back to the scene of the crime and her attacker, who was still there, hiding in the attic.
RYAN: And as we got close to the residence where she was held, she started getting more visibly upset, and more excited.
WYNTER (voice-over): Her abductor turned out to be 23-year-old David Cruz (ph), an illegal immigrant. He was convicted of kidnapping and sexual assault and sentenced to life in prison.
TAMAYO: I remembered everything. I wanted to get that man in jail for what he had done, so I stopped being nervous and helped them find him. And never want him out so he can hurt other children.
WYNTER: In court, prosecutors used some of the evidence Jeannette collected during her captivity. Jeannette Tamayo is a seventh grader now, and says she wants to be a detective.
TAMAYO: This happened for a reason. I`m pretty much moving on, but I`m going to take care of many children that need my help.
WYNTER: For three years, Jeannette has wanted to thank the people who helped her find her way home. A homeless man, Larry, who stood guard by the door where she was left by her attacker.
TAMAYO: I want to say thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`re welcome. I would do it again for you, OK?
WYNTER: And a store clerk Isa (ph), who comforted her and called the police for help. This reunion is a reminder of those horrible three days, but it`s helping Jeannette to start to think about a future that`s full of possibilities.
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VARGAS: That`s an amazing story of survival. We wish Jeannette and her family all the best. That was CNN`s Kareen Wynter for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
HAMMER: Well, Casper Van Dien, who has a new Hallmark movie called "The Curse of King Tuts Tomb," this weekend has used his fame to work tirelessly as an advocate dedicated to protecting children from sexual and physical abuse. Casper Van Diem joining us from Hollywood.
It`s nice to see you.
CASPER VAN DIEN, ACTOR: Hey A.J., nice to see you too.
HAMMER: So, it was really tough sitting here and watching that story, I know you were watching it as well, a young girl and her abduction. It has to make you cringe, but, at the same time, I imagine, particularly with the work you`re doing, it has to inspire you to know that she was so strong and resourceful in what was really such a horrific situation.
VAN DIEN: What a brave young girl. I mean, she`s so courageous. I was fighting back tears. I wasn`t as brave as here when I was little and I didn`t have the courage to face my -- my attacker and I waited until I was 32 to even talk about it, so thank God for TV in that aspect, I guess. I have no idea. She`s just so brave beyond her years.
HAMMER: But you did finally come around, yourself, and you did reveal publicly that you were the victim of a sexual predator who happened to be your babysitter. That was when you were 14 years old?
VAN DIEN: No, I was 8 years old and she was 18.
HAMMER: OK. What can you tell us about what you experienced in that abuse that inspired you to do the work that you`re now doing, protecting children?
VAN DIEN: Well, you know, my wife, Catherine Oxenberg, she`s the one who helped me to come out with it and talk about it. She had first met me when she first met me, she said, there`s so uch abuse in your hands and she said to me, you just -- you were sexually abused, weren`t you. And I said, what are you talking about? No I wasn`t. It took me years. But I finally admitted it, and when I started talking about it, it`s when realized I needed to do this to help other kids and victims come clean and talk about it. Because you create lies, if you don`t talk about it, and you`re still a victim until you talk about it.
HAMMER: And people would be surprised to know how often this goes on and because it`s not talked about, we just don`t know how big a problem this really is.
VAN DIEN: No, it`s a lot bigger. Right now the children -- it`s four children die everyday from childhood abuse and sexual abuse. It used to be three, but, with Child Hope USA, incredible organization, they`re helping rescue these kids, get them the proper help, get them in a place where they can all be -- they can be interviewed by one therapist and everybody all at once, in one room, without being, you know, constantly interviewed and going over and getting, you know, more abuse, getting retraumatized, so....
HAMMER: That can just make it more difficult. Well, a solute you for the work you`re doing with that. I do want to talk to you about the film that you`ve got on this weekend, "The Curse of King Tut`s Tomb." Your character, This guy Danny Freemont, he`s basically an archaeologist who`s truly passionate about his work, kind of like you are with your acting. He`s kind of an "Indiana Jones" like character, right?
VAN DIEN: It`s definitely paying homage to the "Indian Jones" and "The Mummy" series and everything. It was a lot of fun to do It involved King Tut`s tomb and it was just, it`s was hysterical, and it was so much fun to do.
HAMMER: Was it like living out a fantasy for you? Because I know you`re a fan of the "Indiana Jones" series.
VAN DIEN: It was completely living out a fantasy. And, even more so, the director, Russell Mulcahy, who did "Highlander" and "The Shadow "and the first videos turn TV so (ph), it was just a thrill to be able to work with somebody of his caliber, as well.
HAMMER: Well, we`re looking forward to seeing you in that this weekend, Casper. And again, I`d like to salute you for the other work that you`re doing. I think you`re inspiring a lot of people.
VAN DIEN: Thank you, A.J. I appreciate it.
HAMMER: Casper Van Dien, it`s good to see you. And you can catch him in "The Curse of King Tut`s Tomb" it airs this Saturday on the Hallmark channel.
VARGAS: Well, coming up, Bruce Willis makes a splash at the Cannes Film Festival. Take a look at this.
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BRUCE WILLIS, ACTOR: It is a very fun I film, a big funny cast.
Whoa!
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VARGAS: We`ll show you the wave that made a surprise appearance while Willis was being interviewed and what happened next, that`s coming up. We`ll also have this:
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was a stockbroker. I worked for a woman. What an emotional wreck. It is the truth. They are wired chemically differently from men.
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HAMMER: Whether you have a female boss or want to be one, you`re going to want to stick around for the guest we have coming up. We`re going to hear about how to be a boss without being that other "B" word. That`s coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. We`ll be right back.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. It is time now for another story that just made us say, "That`s Ridiculous". And this one, curious. It features beguiling mix of, superstar Bruce Willis, the Cannes Film Festival, and a little unscripted moment as he was being interviewed about his new movie, "Over the Hedge." Please watch this.
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WILLIS: It`s a very funny film, a big, funny cast.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah!
(LAUGHTER)
WILLIS: And that, my friends, is the end of the interview.
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HAMMER: Can we se that from a different angle? I believe we have another shot of it. Ok, there`s DreamWorks producer, Jeffrey Katzenberg, sitting next to Willis, a boat comes by, who leaves them both and a German film television crew in its wake. Those are the breaks, you know, You want to be in Cannes, want to be a big movie star, you can get upstaged by a wave. And we say, "That`s Ridiculous." And Sibila, don`t know if I`m right in saying this, I got a lot of pleasure out of seeing that happen.
VARGAS: Oh, but you got to -- I mean, just -- this guy, he stood there for quite sometime. I was thinking, you know what, when`s the next wave going to come?
HAMMER: Yeah.
VARGAS: He`s cool as a cucumber, that Bruce Willis.
HAMMER: I would have liked that, too.
VARGAS: Well, let`s move on to our next story. It`s -- this next story might just tempt to you say those six little words to that nasty boss of yours the next time she lashes out at you -- take this job and shove it. Yes, we`re talking about that witchy female boss who abused her power and her employees as well. Well SHOWBIZ TONIGHT takes a look at the female boss who can be, you know, that word that rims with witch
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(on camera): Rachel from "Friends" had one.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Rachel has been really incredible at getting my morning bagel for me.
VARGAS: And so did, "Sex and the City`s" Carrie Bradshaw.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Julian, the assignment was 500 words on accessories, not men. And I`m not convinced she knows anything about purses, or for that matter, men.
VARGAS: And it looked like actress Meryl Streep takes no prisoners playing the bitchy boss in her hotly anticipated movie, "The Devil Wears Prada."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t understand why it`s so difficult to confirm appointments.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know, I`m sorry Meranda, I actually beat them firm (UNINTELLIGIBLE) last night...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) your incompetence does not interest me.
VARGAS: We`re talking about that chick in charge who`s, well, a bit of a witch. But, behold, a new book, "The Girl Guide to Being a Boss without Being a..." -- well, you know. But we wanted to find out just how chronic the witchy female boss condition really is. So, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT producer Jenny D`Attoma hit the streets.
JENNY D`ATTOMA, CNN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT PRODUCER: If you could call out a woman who was witchy boss, what would you say to her?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s going to backfire and bite you in the (BLEEP), so you may as well stop now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That evil is rewarded, so look out because your turn is coming.
D`ATTOMA: If you could say something to that person, what would you say?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I quit. That pretty much covers it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was a stockbroker. I worked for a woman. What an emotional wreck. It is the truth. They are wired chemically differently from men. They are up and down. Did I get that right? When you work with a guy you know where he`s coming from.
VARGAS: Yeah, right, buddy, and, besides, get a load of this. Turns out the guy had, how shall we say? An intimate relationship with that boss.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`d thought because we had this thing she`d treat me better. No. No, it all depended on what her chemistry was that morning when she woke up, what her PHC balance or PTH, PTA or whatever the heck chemical imbalances these women bosses carry.
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HAMMER: Well, joining us now, the authors who wrote the book, "The Girls Guide to Being Boss," Caitlin Friedman and Kimberly Yorio. I`m just going to call you Kim.
Ladies, thank you for being here. I think you`re providing some important insight. Something women around the nation -- I want to talk specifically about the three bosses we just saw represented in that piece. First we`re going to talk about Meryl Streep, her character that we saw in the highly anticipated film, "The Devil Wears Prada." Now, what kind of boss are we talking about here?
CAITLIN FRIEDMAN, CO-AUTHOR "THE GIRL`S GUIDE TO BEING A BOSS": Screaming Meemie.
KIMBERLY YORIO, CO-AUTHOR "THE GIRL`S GUIDE TO BEING A BOSS": Yes,
HAMMER: Screaming Meemie boss.
FRIEDMAN: We all her Screaming Meemie because clearly she`s temperamental...
YORIO: She`s angry, she yells, she throws things, she has no concern for you, your problems, your challenges. It`s just all about her. And, if you mess up, you know, she abuses yo you, whether it`s loud or soft, it`s always abuse.
HAMMER: And how do you deal with somebody like that?
YORIO: Well, we were talking about this on the way over. We have actually quite a few friends who work for Screaming Meemie`s and we tell them, if you`re learning something on the job and you have, sort of, your career in the big picture, then stay. But, if not, leave.
HAMMER: Yeah, life`s too short, right?
FRIEDMAN: It is too short to deal with (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
YORIO: You know, working for someone at a high profile magazine, you know you do get -- you hope that if you put in your time then you`ll be promoted, but if you just can`t stand it anymore and you go home and you`re sick all the time and you cry, -- get another job.
FRIEDMAN: Yeah, get out of there.
HAMMER: Yeah, I worked at a place and it wasn`t a woman, it was a guy. But he would just yell at people seemingly for no reason. And that`s not going to make people more productive from where I come from.
FRIEDMAN: No.
HAMMER: All right, let`s move on to Rachel`s boss, who we watched on "Friends" for all of those years, who was always putting her down in front of other people. What kind of boss...
YORIO: Yeah, well we called her the Jealous Julie. She could not deal with, we think, Rachel`s beauty and talent and so instead of trying to do what you should do as a boss, which is support the people you work for and help them get to the next level, she just demeaned her in front of people.
FRIEDMAN: Which happens a lot. I mean, when people are insecure about being a boss, they tend to micromanage and they`re very jealous of their employee`s success and that`s what happens.
HAMMER: I have a friend who recently left a job because, basically, their boss knew that this person was better than them and they let it show. And so, what`s your advice? How do you deal with that situation other than, you know, you can`t always leave the job, it seems like an easy solution.
FRIEDMAN: Right. No....
YORIO: Right. I think that we encourage you to try to get that person on your side. Always know -- you know the devil you know is sometimes better than the devil you don`t.
HAMMER: True.
YORIO: So, if you know what you`re dealing with, then maybe you can find a way to work around it. Now, the thing that Rachel did was she impressed the people above her and she got promoted around it, and so that`s always good, too. But, I think that, with those Jealous Julies you just have to know -- in the book we interviewed 60 women and almost all of them had a story about some one, like another women, keeping them down, and we think just the opposite should be true.
FRIEDMAN: Right. Absolutely, you have to mentor the women.
HAMMER: Let`s move quickly through Candice Bergin`s, the boss to Sarah Jessica Parker`s Carrie Bradshaw in "Sex in the City."
FRIEDMAN: We call her Fiddle. Right. You never know what you`re going to get...
YORIO: You never know what you`re going to get. One day she`s nice and warm and the next day she is nuts...
FRIEDMAN: She`s crazy, crazy.
HAMMER: And she is somebody`s boss? How do we deal?
FRIEDMAN: Well, you know, Maya Angelou once said, if someone shows themselves to you, believe them the first time. So, clearly, if someone swings up and down, when they`re down, that`s who they really are, so that`s -- you have to know what you`re dealing with.
YORIO: And don`t take it personally. You didn`t create that bad mood, you just have to keep your head down and do your work. And on those days, the bad days, you know, try to avoid them.
FRIEDMAN: Hide.
HAMMER: Well, a lot of women are hearing this now, hoping they`re not one of those people. They want to be in charge, but they don`t want to be, we`re going to use the word, a witch here.
FRIEDMAN: Right.
HAMMER: So, give me three top the tips on how to avoid being a witchy boss.
YORIO: Well, be a good witch, that`s the first one.
FRIEDMAN: Right, definitely be clear with your employees. So, what do you expect from them? When do you need done? Set clear boundaries and clear expectations for them.
YORIO: And your job is to give them all the tools they need to successful. Your job is not to, you know, just dump stuff off them and run away. Your job is to really be sure that they know what`s required of them and you give them all the support that they can do (ph) to get it.
HAMMER: And, finally?
FRIEDMAN: And finally...
HAMMER: Did we have one more tip?
YORIO: We had one more tip.
HAMMER: I believe, be conscious of what employees need to get their job done.
FRIEDMAN: Yeah, that was it.
YORIO: That was it. Thank you.
There we go. I`m here to help. I`m not getting a piece of the action of this book. Thank you, ladies.
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FRIEDMAN: I will give you some.
YORIO: Yeah, I`m sure.
(LAUGHTER)
YORIO: You get percent, A.J.
Caitlin Friedman and Kim Yorio I appreciate you joining us on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT
FRIEDMAN: Thank you so much.
YORIO: Thank you so much.
HAMMER: And this is a cool book, it`s called "The Girl`s Guide to Being a Boss," and it`s in stores now.
VARGAS: Well, last night we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Madonna on the Cross: Are her stunts getting old? Eighty-five percent of you said yes. Sorry, Madonna. Fifteen percent of you said no.
Here are some e-mails we got. Now, Dave from Indiana writes, "Madonna has always used imagery to invoke reactions in people. She makes people think about the world they live in."
Nancie from Missouri had other things to write, she says, "She just wants to stir up the pot and will do anything to be in the spotlight. It has become rather tiresome."
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT will be right back. Stick around.
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VARGAS: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT I`m Sibila Vargas. As we told you earlier, Bob Dylan is celebrating his 65th birthday today. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT gave some fans, here in New York, a chance to pay tribute to the legendary singer/songwriter, with a birthday shout-out. Take a look at this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi, my name is Jim.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m Jen, we want to wish Bob Dylan a happy birthday. We love your music. Keep up the good work.
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HAMMER: Happy birthday, Bob. Well, we have been asking you to vote on line on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day asking, Dixie Chicks: Do you mind politics in your music? Go on-line to vote, cnn.com/showbiztonight. Got more to say, just e-mail us at showbiztonight@cnn.com we`ll get into your e-mails tomorrow.
And that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks a lot for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
And I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood. Goodnight guys, and goodnight A.J. Stay tuned for the latest from CNN Headline News.
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