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Glenn Beck

Family Fights Mandatory Medical Treatment; ACLU Defends Funeral Protestors

Aired July 25, 2006 - 19:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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GLENN BECK, HOST: There is a high-speed car chase that is happening right now. Route 10, we go up to Steve Burguiere, otherwise known as Stu. Stu, tell me about it.

STEVE "STU" BURGUIERE, PRODUCER: Can you hear me?

BECK: Yes, I can.

BURGUIERE: I`m high above the scene right now in a flying helicopter (ph), looking down at an automobile or a car, as you can see, traveling at a very high rate of speed.

BECK: Whoa.

BURGUIERE: Authorities are trailing it now. They plan to implement a plan.

BECK: Stu, let me -- let me -- let me interrupt here for just a second. We`re not covering this just because the ratings show that Americans love watching car chases, right? I mean, there`s really something to this car chase.

BURGUIERE: What? No, not at all. I don`t know what you`re talking about.

BECK: We`ll have more on this story as long as you keep watching. And I mean that.

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BECK: All right. I just want to warn you, this story is going to make your head hurt. This is not an easy one to solve. It deals with the question of parental rights. Where does my right as a parent stop, and the right of the state to take over as a parent begin? I will tell you after an awful lot of noodling this one, I don`t believe it begins here.

A Virginia teenager, currently suffering from Hodgkin`s Disease, wants to treat his illness with holistic remedies under advisement from a clinic in Mexico. His parents wholeheartedly endorse this. Doctors, on the other hand, think that he should be getting chemotherapy, which he`s already had once.

A judge ordered the teen to report to a Norfolk hospital today for mandatory chemo. Just a few hours ago, the patient and his lawyers were successful in blocking the court order, and the judge has ordered a trial to decide the matter.

I will tell you that I`m sure we`re an awful lot alike. I take my responsibility as a parent very seriously. I truly believe I was given the responsibility of being a parent by God.

A lot of times, the state is going to disagree with me on some decision that I make with -- with my children, like, for instance, you know, when I force my kids to watch this show every night. But unless what I`m doing is illegal or, I mean, sincerely, certifiably insane, nobody should have the right to tell me what`s best for my children. I`m the parent.

If you`re from the Far East, and you come to this country and you want to treat your kids with some snake pancreas juice when they get the flu, go right ahead. It`s OK with me. It may not work, but it`s certainly hardly illegal.

Is Tom Cruise crazy for not wanting his kids on antidepressants? No. I think he`s more crazy for jumping up and down on the couch like a baboon. It`s his right to take care of his kids any way he wants, as long as it`s legal.

Here`s what I do know tonight. I know that the state has far too much power. We are losing -- as a society, we`re losing power. We`re losing our national sovereignty to the world, and we`re losing our personal sovereignty to the state. It`s time to get it back.

I also know I`m tired of being babysat by the country. I`m tired of everybody telling me what`s wrong, what is politically correct and what`s not P.C. I`m tired of -- telling me that I can`t talk about God in the public. I can`t have Jesus in a manger, but my children are getting condoms handed to them by the math teacher. Stop the insanity.

Now, here`s what I don`t know. I honestly don`t know if this kid is going to get better without chemo. Probably not, but it`s not really my place or the state`s place to make that decision. It`s up to the family. Isn`t it? As long as they`re not nuts.

And you know, while I`m all for a parent`s rights to care for their child any way they want, within legal reason, I mean, this Virginia case, I`m so torn. Basically it really turned on this fact here that I`m about to give you. The parents named their kid Starchild. Now I`m totally lost. They`re hippies, you know. And in this matter, I`ve got to stand with the hippies, and that`s killing me.

Marvin Ventrell is the president of the National Association of Counsel for Children.

Marvin, how can a court act as a parent if the parents haven`t done anything illegal?

MARVIN VENTRELL, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNSEL FOR CHILDREN: Well, by a large time they can`t. But you use the term illegal. It`s really more than that. The state has the authority to intervene in our lives, in the lives of parents and children if parents fail in their basic responsibilities. You may disagree with that, but it`s the law.

BECK: Wait a minute. But hold on just a second. How are they failing here?

VENTRELL: Well...

BECK: It`s not like they`re neglecting the kid. He`s already had one round of chemotherapy. In fact, let me play what the kid said himself about chemotherapy. Here it is.

VENTRELL: All right.

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STARCHILD ABRAHAM CHERRIX, CANCER PATIENT: I want to stop chemotherapy, because I believe that it almost killed me.

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BECK: So he believes that it almost killed him. The parents feel the same way. I don`t know if you`ve ever seen chemotherapy, but it comes with a skull and crossbones. It`s poison. It is the leaches of our day.

VENTRELL: Right. It`s also...

BECK: How are they neglecting him?

VENTRELL: It`s also potentially life-saving. If the medical consensus -- and I`m not there, Glenn, and I don`t know what the doctors are saying. We don`t have a lot of this information. But if the medical consensus is clear that chemotherapy and only chemotherapy may save this child`s life, and the parents are refusing to provide life-saving treatment, then it`s the state`s right to intervene and protect that child. That`s what our law says.

BECK: I got to tell you, I -- I couldn`t disagree with that more. I mean, I will tell you that I -- you know, I`m -- I`m not a big fan of people who say, "Well, we`re going to pray over the child and, you know, and the Holy Ghost will help us on the"...

VENTRELL: Right.

BECK: You know what? God and the Holy Ghost will direct you, most times, to a doctor, because he gave us the ability to noodle things ourselves and figure out modern medicine.

However, chemotherapy is just the best thing that we got going for us right now. How is it someone can`t choose another route?

VENTRELL: Well, because as far as we know, there isn`t another credible route. If I were the judge, and I were hearing this testimony, and I were told that we have chemotherapy as one credible option, and we have something else as another credible option, I would listen to those.

As I understand it, we`re not being given another credible option. What`s going on in Mexico is not another credible option.

BECK: Well, there -- well, wait a minute. There are people that clearly -- I -- I`m not a -- I mean, I can`t believe I`m defending the herb people here. I`m not a guy who`s, like, have a few blades of grass and everything will be OK. I believe in modern medicine.

With that being said, I know people who are very credible who believe in holistic medicine, who would not -- who would go down the route. For instance, Tom Cruise, should Tom Cruise be forced to treat his children with, you know, ADD medication?

VENTRELL: If the children were -- probably not, but if the children were in -- in detriment of serious harm and he was failing to care for them, to protect them, then it`s the state`s authority to intervene.

BECK: What about if...

VENTRELL: I`m not saying that -- that I necessarily agree that the state should have blanket authority, but people need to understand, we operate under the concept of parens patrii under this country. Since colonial times, America has said its law is that the state can intervene in the lives of parents and children if parents fail in their most basic duties.

That doesn`t mean they get to intervene when we disagree with some little thing, where to go to school, what your faith is, but where it`s life or death, which may be the case here, then that`s what our law says, Glenn.

BECK: Right. I don`t understand that, because I don`t believe the parents have failed in their basic right. They are paying attention. They have brought the kid in for chemotherapy. They`ve done their homework on this. They just happen to disagree with the doctors.

The 16-year-old also said this, quote, "It`s my body. If I can`t choose what`s right for my body, then I don`t have any rights at all."

VENTRELL: And there is a very interesting and difficult question, and I don`t pretend to have the answers there at all. Where we vest rights in children at 10, 11, 12, 16, 17? You know, we draw a bright line at 18, and we say you get to choose these things at 18. You are a truly independent constitutional person at 18, but at 17 you`re not. I agree that that`s a little flawed.

BECK: Marvin, I will -- I will -- I will tell you that I know parents that don`t get their kids vaccinated, because they believe the vaccinations are causing problems down the road.

VENTRELL: Right.

BECK: Is that endangerment?

Thanks so much.

Up next, the ACLU is going to bat for some nutballs who protest at soldiers` funerals. Yes, it`s the "God hates fags" people. It`s outrageous, and we`ll be back in a minute.

But before we go I have word Stu is back with some more breaking news of the car chase that is going on.

Stu, are you there?

BURGUIERE: Can you hear me? Are you checking this out?

BECK: Where is the -- this is...

BURGUIERE: Right now, you can see the truck going. He`s running away from the cops. They`re, like, behind him and they`re trying to catch him. It`s unbelievable.

BECK: Wasn`t it -- it was a car a little while ago. It wasn`t a truck. I thought we were following a...

BURGUIERE: No, it`s the same one. But it`s white. We just flew to the other side.

BECK: Is it just me?

BURGUIERE: You keep watching, Glenn. The main thing you need to remember is something could crash, it could explode. Something could combust at any moment.

BECK: OK. All right.

Back with more in a second, and the ACLU next.

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BECK: I -- I want to take a moment here to quickly update you on the story of Kalie MacArthur. We`ve been following it for a few weeks, if you don`t know the story.

In a nutshell, that`s Kalie there. She`s a mentally handicapped young woman of I.Q. of 50. She`s the mental age of a 4-year-old child. She`s from Colorado Springs, Colorado. She was sexually assaulted in her high school by a peer counselor. It is a horrific, horrific story.

The parents now need financial help caring for Kalie, because she`s been so traumatized. She`s around men now, and sometimes she`ll wet herself. She gets aggressive around men.

When they tried to mediate with the school, they got this response: the assault, quote, "was pleasurable," end quote. Last week, I posed the question, who is going to stand up for the weakest in our society?

Well, I`ll tell you, this school district -- I believe it`s District 20 -- has been in trouble before for neglecting the handicapped, and I will tell you, Colorado Springs, how you can help Kalie tomorrow.

It -- honestly, it involves a brand, or theory, that I have that either the media is too busy or they don`t care or they just don`t get it many times, and we`re going to put you to work and help you help your own community. We`ll tell you about it tomorrow.

Now, there`s a church group in Kansas that likes to go to soldiers` funerals and protest, holding up signs that say "God hates fags." I love these guys.

A spokesman for the church, Reverend Fred Phelps, say they do this because he thinks America`s tolerance towards homosexuals is making God kill soldiers.

Now guess who`s defending the nutjob church? ACLU, of course. It`s our good friends at the ACLU, the people who never fail to make my head explode.

I -- before we have Michael Gross on the ACLU. I just have got to get this out in the open. I get it. I understand freedom of speech. It`s only free when the worst possible speech is allowed. I get it. I understand.

But two things come to mind. You can`t scream "fire" in a theater. Can we decide not to scream "God hates fags" at a funeral"? Could we do that? Protest wherever you want. Say whatever garbage spills out of your mouth, but show some respect at a funeral. Can you do that?

And the other thing is, can the ACLU humor me just a bit? Throw me a curve ball. Defend at least one decent human being from time to time. What? I agree with that one. Try it out. They`re chasing a plastic baby Jesus out of a town square, but they choose to represent the "God hates fags" church? Hello.

Michael Gross, former ACLU attorney.

Michael, I got to tell you, I don`t get it.

MICHAEL GROSS, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Glenn, who gets what you just said about treating a child with cancer by giving him urine from frogs, because his parents think that chemotherapy is out of place? But I`ll defend to the death your right to say that poppycock.

BECK: Right. OK. Michael, you and I are never going to agree, and you are -- you, sir, it is my goal in life to have you come on with a smile on your face and keep smiling the whole time. Don`t think we`re ever going to make it.

GROSS: Thank you. Thank you, I`ll try. It`s not etiquette show, is it? We`re talking about justice here.

BECK: Well, we don`t -- Michael, we don`t have to hate each other, do we?

GROSS: No, no. I don`t think.

BECK: We don`t have to yell at each other.

GROSS: I have great respect for you. What I also respect is the First Amendment. This is serious stuff. The world is in turmoil over it. Don`t suppress free speech.

BECK: Wait a minute. I`m not suppressing it. What I`m saying is can we not have a little civil responsibility with our civil rights? Let`s not shout "God hates fags" at funerals.

GROSS: Look, you never have to protect sane people.

BECK: Here he goes.

GROSS: I`m serious.

BECK: No, here he goes. He`s going to go with the "it`s only free when you have to -- when you have to protect it."

GROSS: It`s easy when you`re saying the sorts of babble that nobody disagrees with.

BECK: Right.

GROSS: It`s hard, but they need to be protected. People who say things which are not popular. They are the ones...

BECK: OK. How about this one? How about this one? You guys -- I can`t have a "Choose Life" license plate because of the ACLU. God forbid I have a "Choose Life." Not "Kill all Abortion Doctors." "Choose Life." You guys, against that, but "God hates fags" you`re for?

GROSS: The ACLU has never done anything that harmed anybody. Everything they`ve ever done is to...

BECK: You`re getting angry.

GROSS: If this -- if you think this is anger, it`s only because you`re such a nice guy. This is...

BECK: I`m afraid of you. I really am.

GROSS: This is advocacy. This is what we do when we`re fighting for our rights.

BECK: Right. Come on.

GROSS: Give me a break.

BECK: Michael, do you really? I mean, this is -- when you grew up, you thought to yourself if I could just defend those "God hates fags" guys?

GROSS: I`ll tell you who I defended. I defended young men who went off to jail because they didn`t want to fight in wars, and this is a war issue. This is about funerals of fallen soldiers and people...

BECK: No.

GROSS: Yes, it is. Don`t mistake this. We`re not playing games here with these crazy "God hates fags." I mean, they`re obviously insane, and what they need is an education. There`s plenty of criminal laws that will stop them from disturbing the peace, but what we don`t need is to be protected from what`s really happening in the world.

BECK: OK.

GROSS: Soldiers are dying, and we`re not allowed to know about it.

BECK: OK. So I want to make sure you are on the record -- I understand what you`re saying here. I can`t believe you`re admitting it, and I appreciate your honesty. That this is taken on by you because of the political agenda.

GROSS: No, no. You misunderstood me.

BECK: Wow.

GROSS: No. Here`s what I`m trying to say. When the president hides the body bags, when the president doesn`t want people showing up at funerals of soldiers, he calls an act, and this is the name of this act, Fallen Heroes. That is a way of polishing the Bush doctrine in Iraq. Now, what we need is a fair and open discussion of that policy.

BECK: How did we -- how did we -- sir, how did we go from your "God hates fags" to the anger over the war? Let`s -- let`s just talk -- let`s just say this has nothing to do with the war, and I know you`re going to go off on that.

GROSS: It`s about soldiers who died in Iraq.

BECK: Wait a minute, sir. Let`s say...

GROSS: How do you say it has nothing to do with the war? That`s what they`re protesting.

BECK: These people have protested at the funerals of AIDS victims.

GROSS: Yes.

BECK: They have protested at the victims of funerals where people were involved in hate crimes and beaten to death because they were homosexual. Would you defend that?

GROSS: Yes, of course.

BECK: Wait a minute.

GROSS: Of course.

BECK: Hang on. You would? That`s OK to engage in hate speech at someone`s funeral?

GROSS: Look, they`re not at the funeral.

BECK: They are right there at the funeral.

GROSS: No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Let`s -- they`re not at the funeral. What this prohibits...

BECK: Across the street. I`m sorry.

GROSS: All right. That`s a big difference.

BECK: Oh, come on. It`s not -- as I`m coming down with my family and I`ve got the coffin, I have to hear these bozos screaming "God hates fags"? How dare you? Give me a second.

GROSS: That`s what those soldiers died for. This is America.

BECK: No, sir.

GROSS: This is not Afghanistan, Iraq, or Lebanon.

BECK: You are -- I love you. I don`t ever want to spend time with you because you scare me, and honestly, I -- but I love you. You`re great.

GROSS: Thank you.

BECK: God bless you. I completely disagree with you, and luckily, most of America does too.

GROSS: And I defend your right to disagree.

BECK: Thanks a lot, Michael.

GROSS: Bye.

BECK: Bye-bye.

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BECK: Right. I understand we -- we`re still following that car chase. We`ll come back to that here in a second.

First, let`s go to Los Angeles. Bill Handel is an attorney and radio host at KFI in Los Angeles.

Hello, Bill.

BILL HANDEL, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Hello, Glenn.

BECK: Tell me about what`s happening in what I like to call the Newman of America.

HANDEL: Yes, this is insane. We did this story on the radio show this morning.

BECK: Yes.

HANDEL: Ken Barrett (ph), who is a professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

BECK: Yes, Madison.

HANDEL: Teaching a class in Islamic culture. He is a convert to Muslim. And it`s a 16-week class at the university, a state university, in which one week of the 16-week course is going to be devoted to how the United States government destroyed the World Trade Center. How the government of the United States, under the orders of the president of the United States, blew up the World Trade Center to begin a war between Christians and Muslims.

And this is being taught at the university.

BECK: Bill, how -- I mean, how these guys cannot make a cogent argument for point of view on creationism but they can teach theory about the president blowing up the World Trade Center?

HANDEL: Because the Constitution talks about separation of church and state, or at least the Supreme Court finds the Constitution talking about separation of church and state. So when you play with that game, there is no issue.

But when you`re arguing the president is a mass murderer and should be executed or the theory of flight doesn`t exist or gravity doesn`t exist, you`re fine. There`s not a problem, and it`s academic freedom, I might add.

BECK: Right. I`m so sick of the academic freedom. The tenure thing, you`ve got to be able to get rid of some of these guys.

I mean, I understand that you need to protect freedom of speech, but, I mean, I think the "God hates fags" thing is over the top.

HANDEL: It is over the top. What`s happened, Glenn, is the same argument you have with the separation of church and state, the court has taken it to a degree that is -- that is almost beyond credulity.

The same thing happens with this concept of academic freedom. It`s taken to the point where you can advocate murder. You can advocate that history doesn`t exist. You can advocate the world is flat, the moon isn`t there, and it`s all fine under academic freedom.

BECK: In 40 seconds tell me what do you do as a parent? You`re sending your kid off to college; they go to this one. What do you do to stop this? What does the average Joe do?

HANDEL: You know what? You end up going to another school and you end up yanking the kid from the class. You hope this kid decides "I`m not going to take this class."

BECK: But my tax dollars are going to fund that school.

HANDEL: Yes, crazy isn`t it? And the state legislature, by the way, is going crazy, and they`re getting into a fight with the university. They`re arguing, "We`re not going to fund you."

The university says, "We have academic freedom here."

As Yakov Smirnoff, the comedian said, "What a country!"

BECK: I didn`t know we had to go to Yakov Smirnoff, but Bill, I appreciate it.

HANDEL: Sure.

BECK: You`ll be talking for me next week.

Getting word now, we do have the update on the car chase. Stu, is there -- and now this is a Bronco. It was a truck before.

BURGUIERE: Glenn, this is unbelievable right now. We`re following what appears to be a white sport utility vehicle. It`s a Ford. We`re trying to make out the model now.

BECK: Wait a minute. This is O.J. Simpson. This is O.J. And it`s not even -- it`s in a loop. It just started all over again.

BURGUIERE: Right, biggest event in television history, like 90 million viewers. Just sit back and enjoy the ratings, baby.

BECK: This is a ratings ploy only.

BURGUIERE: It`s what people want. Let them watch...

BECK: I know how this story ends.

This is an abomination. I apologize to our viewers.

BURGUIERE: Go, O.J.

BECK: Jeez. Gee, I wonder what`s going to happen next?

Back in a second. Jeez.

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BECK: You know, sometimes I watch the news, and it either doesn`t reflect what I`m thinking or, you know, it doesn`t reflect what`s really going on. Tonight, I`ve got a big example of how the media just doesn`t get it.

First, the mess in the Middle East, it`s continuing. Condi`s over there. She`s trying to broker a meaningful peace deal. But I`m going to be honest with you, and I know this is politically incorrect, but I`m just not interested in this story right now. I`m past the point of caring how many rockets were launched today.

I know that makes me a bad human, but that`s the way I feel. This is what I do want to know on this story: What does it mean to me?

I told my radio audience over a month ago that I wondered why Iran needed until late August to accept or reject a package of incentives on their nuke program. Listen carefully: This is why all this war is going on. Things began to make sense to me when the war broke out in Israel.

So 11 days ago, on my radio show, I laid out a theory that I want to take you through right now. I thought at first the logical step was to figure out why Iran would want to delay in first place. My hunch was they were working to orchestrate hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah, leaving Lebanon in the middle.

But then what? Think about what happens after a few weeks in an attack on Lebanon. Think about the pictures that are going to be shown all over Al-Jazeera. Here`s what I said two weeks ago on the radio.

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BECK: ... more importantly, to create a humanitarian crisis. You are not going to hear about this humanitarian crisis, but mark my words you are going to hear about the humanitarian crisis in two to three weeks from now, if it lasts that long.

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BECK: OK, that`s Iran`s plan, and I`ll get to why here in a second. Now, take a look at the front page from "USA Today" yesterday. Ah, seems like there`s a humanitarian crisis. It`s started, and it`s only going to get worse because Israel will continue to bombard the city.

So what`s next? I believe that many Arab countries will become outraged at the mess that the Israelis are causing, to what they believe are innocent people of Lebanon. And in many cases, they are innocent people in Lebanon, being used by Iran.

And, of course, the U.S. will be guilty by association, which brings me back to the nuke package and the reason that Iran has kept delaying. Listen to what I thought Iran would say next from two weeks ago.

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BECK: There needs to be a strong leader. There needs to be someone that can stand up to these bullies. We will not relinquish our nuclear weapon program. We need it.

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BECK: That`s what I believed Iran was gunning for in the first place. They needed to say somebody in the Mideast needs to be strong, and it`s us.

Then on Sunday, this last Sunday, "Time" magazine, I open it up. I find this quote from a senior adviser in Iran: "This has strengthened the hand of those who argue, `If this happened to us, the only thing that would save us is a nuclear deterrent.`"

This war in Israel has always been about the nuke in Iran. It always has been; it always will be.

The Iranians, who I believe has orchestrated the timing of everything, from the Israeli soldiers` kidnappings, to the North Korean missile tests, to the ongoing battles between Israel and Hezbollah, are finally playing their cards face up on the table. "We must have a nuke program," they say, "because if we don`t, who`s going to defend you in the next time these bloodthirsty Americans or Israeli monsters provoke you?"

Now`s the time to see how the rest of the Arab world reacts. They`ll have to make a choice: Do they side with Iran and begin to fight for their cause, or do they see through this carefully created nuclear smokescreen? Only time will tell.

Now, I want to tell you about another story, a 5-year-old girl from Utah. It was one night last week -- it was about 8:30 in the evening, and the little girl was finishing dinner. She takes her nightly bath and asks to be let out into the backyard to play.

A tiny, little ranch house there in Utah, she lives in there, it gets cramped with 10 people living there, so the fenced-in backyard offers her just a really nice, quiet place to play. Since she`s just gotten out of the tub, she leaves the house barefoot, and, with her strawberry blonde hair, with pretty streaks of green, as you could see in her hair, is still damp.

She`s wearing an adult-sized black and gray t-shirt that looks funny on her. She`s only 3 1/2 feet tall. She`s 50 pounds.

The only person that knows exactly what happened to Destiny Norton in the next 10 minutes is her. When someone from the house goes to check on her, she`s gone.

All of the usual calls to police went out. All of the family, the friends, the neighbors interviewed, everybody. Big media story in Salt Lake City and in Utah. Days after posting flyers and organizing searches, producing nothing but a few tips, it went nowhere.

So why am I telling you this story? Why is Destiny any different than any other of the 2,200 children who are reported missing, on average, every single day?

At 8:30 last night, just about eight days to the second that she went outside to play in the backyard, Destiny Norton was found dead in the basement of a house 150 feet away from hers. The guy who lives there, Craig Roger Gregerson, 20 years old, married, small child of his own. He`s been arrested now for murder.

So if he`s convicted, what`s going to happen? What`s the real punishment these days for taking the life of someone so young, 20 years in jail, 30 years in jail? Who knows? The point is that, no matter what the sentence may eventually be, it`s not enough.

There is an epidemic of child rape and child murder it seems that`s going on in America. How do you stop it? How do I, as a parent, how do you as a parent protect your kids when you can`t even let them play in their own fenced-in backyard for 10 minutes without worrying that they`re going to wind up missing or, worse, dead?

I don`t have the answer, but I do know that we`ve got to start by setting an example. We have to start by making sure those who commit crimes against the most innocent among us never, ever get out and have a chance to do it again.

Ashley Hayes, she`s with KSL in Salt Lake City. Ashley, can you tell us more about this guy in particular?

ASHLEY HAYES, KSL-TV: Well, we know that Craig Gregerson has a history of domestic violence. Back in 2004, as an 18-year-old, he was arrested for domestic violence charge for hitting his mother-in-law in the face, and then we have court documents now, from earlier this year, from February and March, where there was incidences of hitting her wife, hitting her while she was pregnant...

BECK: But isn`t there a -- I mean, that`s quite a leap from abuse, which is horrible -- and don`t get me wrong on that -- but it`s a leap from abuse to taking a 5-year-old and killing her. I hate even asking this question: Was there sexual abuse? Do we know yet?

HAYES: We don`t know at this point. The police department made a press conference last night letting us know that they had found her body. They`re not speaking again until her autopsy results come out, and that probably won`t happen until tomorrow at the earliest.

BECK: I understand that KSL in Salt Lake actually spoke to his wife, the alleged killer`s wife. Is that true?

HAYES: Yes, yes. We spoke with Catherine on the phone on our radio program this morning, and her feeling was that she really didn`t believe he did it. She felt he was set up. And until he, you know, confessed it to her face, she was, you know, going to stand by him.

BECK: He was set up? I mean, they found her in the basement, didn`t they?

HAYES: They did. She said she was in the house as late as 3:00 in the afternoon yesterday and said, you know, she didn`t smell anything, she didn`t see anything different. You know, she really feels that somehow this was planted maybe.

BECK: All right. Now, I know the police originally went over to the house and walked in. The dogs didn`t smell anything. This is the report I heard. Dogs didn`t smell anything. They asked if they could search the house, and he said no. Do they know yet if it`s possible that she was alive at that point?

HAYES: We don`t know. We know that the booking statement said he lured this little girl into his residence and, when she started screaming, that he cupped his hand over her mouth and, you know, she became unconscious, and he laid her on the floor, which would lead to us believe that she was killed pretty quickly. But that`s the only report we have.

BECK: I know the parents were upset that the national media was not on top of this. You know, everybody was focused on the war. Quickly, in 10 seconds, the parents, how are they?

HAYES: We think they`re hanging in there. We haven`t spoken with them. We`ve spoken with representatives for their family. We know they`re having a terrible time, and their community has been very torn up about this.

BECK: Best of luck to the family, and our prayers will be with everybody in the family. Thank you so much.

All right. Let`s go "Straight to Hill," Erica Hill, the anchor of "PRIME NEWS" on Headline News. Hello, Erica.

ERICA HILL, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: Hello, Glenn.

BECK: What is happening in the news today?

HILL: Lots of different things. Here`s one that we could all probably take to heart. You hear so much about multitasking and how it`s great to be able to do more than one thing at once, right? Well, maybe not.

A new study finds all those distractions can actually make it tough to remember information later on because they change the way you learn, because they`re distracting. The findings were published in Monday`s proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and researchers are worried that it could actually affect a lot of young people who are also dedicating plenty of time to TV, videogames, and computers while they do other things.

BECK: Yes. I wish I paid any attention at all to this story because it sounds fascinating, but I was writing myself a noted, and I think I`ve just proved this theory right. And I`ve proved it right for free.

HILL: That`s great.

BECK: You hear what I`m saying?

HILL: And it makes me feel loved, so thanks, yes.

BECK: No, I was writing a note -- well, I wasn`t writing a note to you. I was writing a note of something I wanted to tell you.

HILL: To remind you to listen.

BECK: Yes, now I`m not -- let me just tell you, I get tons of fan mail for you. People love you.

HILL: Thank you.

BECK: Love you. I mean, I answer all of the fan mail back as you.

HILL: As me?

BECK: Yes.

HILL: OK, now they don`t like me anymore. Thanks, Glenn.

BECK: Well, they do like you. They like you, but I think you have a few dates lined up around the country. I`m trying to get you out of it right now. It`s kind of a spooky thing.

HILL: Oh.

BECK: I`m sorry about that. OK, Erica, we`ll talk to you tomorrow.

HILL: See you tomorrow. Thanks.

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BECK: All right. You remember back in 1999, a little company called Pets.com was about to revolutionize the world? Well, hopefully you had the courage and the foresight like I did to buy boatloads of their stock, because it was brilliant. You stick it underneath your bed, wait to cash out when your kids are ready to go to college. Yes!

1999, however, was also the time when every day you would hear about somebody getting, you know, $5 million or $10 million in venture capital to start the new Internet business. Well, we all now know how most of those things worked out.

But today another company, Jobster.com, is making headlines because they just closed a deal for $18 million in capital to continue expanding their Web site. The idea for Jobster, better than pet supplies online. Jobster wants to become the MySpace of the unemployment world, where employees and employers can access information about each other, and people who are looking for jobs can basically suck up. Some call it networking with each other in an attempt to land the next sweet gig.

Jason Goldberg is the CEO of Jobster.com. Jason, congratulations. Look at you. I hate you. You`re so frickin` successful. And how old are you, 12?

JASON GOLDBERG, CEO, JOBSTER.COM: I`m 34, Glenn. Thanks for having me today.

BECK: Oh, jeez, you`re welcome. So tell me how the Internet is changing things when people are looking for a job, because I just saw this happen in my office this last week. It really has changed things, hasn`t it?

GOLDBERG: Well, I think the Internet is changing fundamentally the way people access information, and there`s a whole lot more transparency, whether it`s from job seekers being able to find information about the companies they want to work at, or meet the people that might be interesting for them to meet at those companies.

BECK: But it`s also changing -- I was in my office, and somebody was talking about hiring somebody, and they said, "Hang on just a second. Let me go to MySpace and see what I can find on them." I mean...

GOLDBERG: Well, I`ll tell you, we have almost 400 companies that are paying to use Jobster services for employers, which help them find people around the Internet. And one of the things that they`re doing, instantly when they find people today, is they`re searching for these people, whether it`s on Google, whether it`s on MySpace, or Facebook.

I`ve got a quick example, just to give you one. We looked on -- it took us about 30 seconds before I came on the show today. There`s a woman who works for you named Claire. I think she`s a production assistant. And within about 30 seconds of searching, I was able to find that, like myself, Claire went to Stanford University. I found out that she was an intern once at the Center for Foreign Relations.

BECK: She`s really smart.

GOLDBERG: Interesting stuff, right? But then I found a little bit more on her, on her MySpace profile. Check this out. I found a picture of a friend named Baby Doll in a bikini almost naked on a beach. I found that she`s found of dictatorships. She labels herself a goat herder. Her favorite word is ergo, and she claims that she`s currently living in Bakra, Western Sahara.

BECK: She is.

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GOLDBERG: And she said her best trait is that she`s abrasive.

BECK: OK.

GOLDBERG: Now, if you`re an employer, I don`t know if you want to be hiring the abrasive Claire.

BECK: See that is -- except for where she lives, none of that is true about her that I know. I will tell you that that`s exactly the kind of stuff we were looking for when we started going onto MySpace. We were looking for, are we hiring nut jobs?

GOLDBERG: Well, I think, you know, one of the lessons learned here is that information is out there about people everywhere, and whether you`re an individual who`s just having fun, socializing with your friends on the Internet, or whether you`re an employer that`s trying to emphasize what your employment brand is all about, what your company is like, people are going to find the information you post, and so it`s really important that you`re careful about what you post.

BECK: And my daughter going to college, if she got onto MySpace, she started posting a bunch of stuff, she`s not thinking about the jobs she`s going to search for, you know, in five years. That stuff`s always there, isn`t it?

GOLDBERG: And that`s the thing, is that I think young people need to be a little more cognizant than they perhaps are today that the information they put out on the Internet will be found by folks. It took me all of about 30 seconds to pretty much summarize Claire in a nutshell, all down to the fact that, even though she was born in 1983, she said she attended Stanford University in the 1950s.

BECK: Yes. Let me ask you -- I think the important question that everybody wants to know, how much are you pulling down a year?

GOLDBERG: You know, I pay myself actually a pretty small salary right now. Really...

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BECK: Yes, but you got all that stock. I`m sitting here with Pets.com stock. I appreciate it. Thanks, Jason.

NANCY GRACE is coming up next here on Headline News. Nancy, what`s on the docket tonight?

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Glenn, tonight, we want to help solve a Texas murder mystery. Police on an all-out search for a killer. A Texas beauty goes to show an upscale model home. She was never seen alive again. Did Sarah Walker unwittingly reach out to her own killer on dating sites, Glenn?

BECK: All right. Thanks, Nancy. You can catch Nancy here on Headline News right after this program at 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

Also coming up tomorrow, an update on the sexual assault of Kalie McArthur, and the unforgivable response from Colorado officials in Colorado Springs. You`ve been asking how you can help. Tomorrow, we call you for action, and I promise you, Mr. Mayor, this is one story we`re just not going to drop.

Hang on. We have Stu on -- no, not the car chase again.

STU: Glenn, this is turning out to be a really busy day on our nation`s roads.

BECK: This is a movie.

STU: We`ve gotten word of another car chase. Are you seeing the video?

BECK: This is not a car chase. This is a ratings ploy, that`s all this is.

STU: Glenn, if you`re seeing this, it looks like...

BECK: It looks like Steve McQueen.

STU: I can`t confirm the identity, but -- oh, my god. There`s gunfire. Glenn, oh, my god.

BECK: OK, Stu...

STU: This is amazing. If you remember, it was three weeks ago on the radio show you predicted this.

BECK: I predicted what? We`d be playing old movies?

STU: They should make a movie out of this scene. Oh, my god. Watch out. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, this is terrible. Oh, no.

BECK: And at gas prices the way they are, that`s not pretty. That is Steve McQueen. This is "Bullet," for the love of Pete. You know what this is? This is...

STU: A man is burning. The flesh is burning.

BECK: This network had great ratings. It beat like every other cable show on television Friday when they ran -- this is a cheap ratings ploy, and I may have to apologize. Let me look at the ratings for tonight`s show, and then I may apologize tomorrow.

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BECK: All right, it`s been a few days since we`ve unleashed the hate mail. It`s starting to back up on us a bit, so let`s delve in together, shall we?

Malcolm writes in, "Glenn, here`s my shot at your `What I Know and What I Don`t Know` segment. Enjoy."

All right. This is kind of exciting. The production people have put together graphics for Malcolm from Austin, Texas. TV debut. Here it is. Here`s what Malcolm knows.

Apparently, I`m an idiot. Here`s what Glenn doesn`t know: anything. OK. Thanks, Malcolm. I`ll give you a C-plus. I mean, I liked how direct it was, but it lacked that piece of flair that might have brought it all together. It was just all right for me, dog, you know?

John from North Carolina writes, "For a goofball conservative freak piece of work, I shudder at the thought that you sometimes make sense of the world headlines. I can`t believe I said that."

Honestly, I can`t believe you said that either. You must be one of them right-wing zealots like me.

Answer some of these questions: Do you have the desire to hurt innocent trees? Have you felt the need to lead an unjust invasion on your local Pep Boys to steal oil? Have you ever intentionally and repeatedly kicked a puggle in the last three weeks? If so, you might be becoming a hatemonger. Check your doctor. Get something to help before it`s too late.

Carrie in California writes this: "I`m appalled that your station would air such garbage. Glenn Beck has trivialized the horrible war going on in the Middle East." Yes, that`s what it`s been happening. It`s what I`ve been doing, I`ve been ringing the bell on World War III. "There are innocent children being killed each and every day, and I`ll no longer watch this channel for my news and information until this poor excuse for entertainment is given his pink slip."

Hey, Carrie, I get it. You know, the show isn`t for everybody. First, let me just tell you this: You`re a new viewer. You`re going to hate this show for about six or eight weeks. Then you`re going to go into a period of white-hot hate, where it just drives you insane. But then eventually we`ve found it just kind of simmers down to a sort of a numbness where you can`t find yourself changing the channel. We`re hoping we keep you until then.

Secondly, I know when I get home from work, I want the information I need to know, but I also would like to laugh a little and watch it with somebody with at least a little sense of humor. Otherwise, I`m killing myself.

If that`s not what you want, you can get the other approach on about 2.5 billion radio and TV stations all around the dial. I just can`t make it throughout the day without, you know, pointing out how ridiculous the world really is, but maybe that`s just me.

Don`t worry. If you won`t watch, hey, you can still e-mail me. I love your hate mail, GlennBeck@CNN.com. See you tomorrow on the radio, you sick freak.

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