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Despots Meeting in Cuba; New Movie Examines Islamic War on West

Aired September 15, 2006 - 19:00   ET

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GLENN BECK, HOST: All right, coming up, some of the most dangerous men in the world are gathering just 90 simple miles away. Are they plotting against us? No. That`s next.
We`ve been telling this for a while. Thank goodness some people are starting to take notice. The nut job party of the year is taking place in Cuba right now. Countries -- listen to this roster. Countries like Iran, Syria, Libya, are all gathering at a non-aligned movement summit. That sounds happy, doesn`t it? Maybe they`ll show slides from Fidel`s surgery. They`re showing support for Iran`s nuclear program, and they also plan to label America a terrorist state.

Here`s the point tonight: our enemies are mobilizing against us. They are 90 miles away and the media is paying very little attention to the gathering storm. This meeting is just one piece of the storm. An evil axis of power is being formed right now, and the result could be catastrophic.

Iran`s President Tom trying to make nicey-nice today. He said, quote, "We are partisans of dialogue and negotiation." Yes, except when it comes to building the nukes, President Tom. Do I have that one right?

He went on to say something that was both hilarious and absolutely horrifying at the same time. He said, quote, "We believe that on the basis of law and justice, we can better lead the world."

Let me ask you this: how can you just stand by and watch some freak like this make these kinds of claims? Here`s a guy who said, "Yes, we`re going to go ahead and build those nukes, no matter what the world says. Oh, and, by the way, we should also be ruling the world." Does Hitler come to mind?

It`s time to stand up and take notice! If we don`t, if we continue to turn a blind eye to our enemies the same way the world did to Hitler in the `30s, history is very much in danger of repeating itself.

You`ve got to be aware of these people. You know? Are your neighbors aware of who these people are? If you watch this show every night, you know exactly who they are.

It doesn`t seem to be happening. It doesn`t seem to be -- the people are going -- wait a minute, hang on, who, 90 miles, what? Even with the former secretary of state, Colin Powell, yesterday, he actually said, and I like Colin Powell. He said this, quote, "The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism."

Who cares what the rest of the world thinks? The rest of the world is in such a freaking denial, they refuse to even look at what we`re up against. You know what? Rest of the world -- I`ll show you what we`re up against. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.K., you will pay! U.K., you will pay!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.K., you will pay! U.K., you will pay!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: U.K., you will pay! U.K., you will pay!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bomb, bomb USA! Bomb, bomb USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bomb, bomb USA! Bomb, bomb USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bomb, bomb USA! Bomb, bomb USA!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Death to Israel!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Death to Israel!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Death to Israel!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: I mean, look at this. Look at that. That should scare the living daylights out of you.

Another former secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, it seems this guy gets it. He`s saying that we are heading for a war of civilizations. He says Iran is at the center of it all. He wrote an op-ed piece that I swear to you, I could have written. He is absolutely right, and he also sounded smarter when he said it than I do.

In Cuba, our enemies are lining up against us. They are -- they are lining up, and they`ve all got a common goal: to destroy the west and our way of life. You need to wake up, America, and act before it`s too late.

Now, here`s what I know tonight, and it ain`t an awful lot. What`s happening in Cuba is the beginning of an evil axis of power. We need to look at all of the dictators and despotic leaders who are meeting in Havana, make a list, check it twice, and then watch them closely.

Here`s what I don`t know. I don`t know all the facts about these guys. I mean, I know they`re evil, but just how evil are they?

David Wallechinsky, he is the author of "Tyrants: The World`s 20 Worst Living Dictators". David`s basically the Casey Kasem of evil nut jobs.

David, how many people -- your book is the 20 most evil people on the planet. How far that, how many of these guys are at this Cuba summit this weekend?

DAVID WALLECHINSKY, AUTHOR, "TYRANTS": I`m not sure exactly how many of them are individually there. I believe that 17 of the 20 are either there personally or have sent representatives.

BECK: So it`s a -- it`s a nice picnic.

WALLECHINSKY: Yes, there`s a lot of them down there.

BECK: Right.

WALLECHINSKY: It is worth noting, though, that the nonaligned movement also has some democracies. And it has a -- you know, it`s like -- in a way, it`s like -- it has the same flaw. The nonaligned movement has the same flaw that the United Nations has, which is that in its charter, it says you have to accept every leader, every country, no matter what their form of government.

BECK: Right.

WALLECHINSKY: And so, that`s why it`s ridiculous to look to the U.N. for leadership on human rights.

BECK: You`re preaching to the choir here, brother.

WALLECHINSKY: OK.

BECK: Let`s go through some of the dictators that you cover in your book. We did this like baseball. You know, I`m riddled with ADD. Make it interesting for me. Who is getting into the hall of fame first?

WALLECHINSKY: Well, I give first place right now as the worst dictator currently in power to Omar al-Bashir of Sudan. And it amazes me that this gets so little media coverage.

Sometimes we hear about the killings in Darfur, you know, refugees, hundreds of thousands of people being killed, and it`s treated like it`s a humanitarian disaster.

There`s a man in charge there, and his name is Omar al-Bashir. He orders this activity, these killings, and he could stop them any time he wanted, but he doesn`t. And he should get more press.

BECK: So this is the guy that George Clooney should have been targeting in his speech.

WALLECHINSKY: Well, he also -- the other thing about Bashir, I`ll say, which amazes me, is that we hear about Darfur, but he already did the same thing in southern Sudan several years ago. Slavery, burning villages, raping, kidnapping people and turning them, you know, bringing them north for to be slaves. It`s -- it`s bizarre that we`re allowing this to go on.

BECK: Let`s go with Moammar Gadhafi. He seems like he turned a corner, going for most improved.

WALLECHINSKY: Yes. Most improved. But don`t believe that for a second.

BECK: No.

WALLECHINSKY: The west -- the west made a deal with him. Give us -- give us one terrorist and, you know, let us buy your oil. And now, we don`t talk about Gadhafi anymore.

Back in Libya, he`s just as bad as he was. You can be, you know, arrested for, you know, being part of a family, one member of whom has done something to offend Gadhafi. He`s just as bad as he was.

BECK: Out of -- out of the top 20, how many of them use Islam as their shield or their rallying cry?

WALLECHINSKY: I believe it was, like, eight or 10, I think, between - - of the 20, 14 of them either are Islamic governments or communist governments.

BECK: Who wins the most valuable dictator?

WALLECHINSKY: Most valuable, I`d have to give the Hu Jintao of China, because China is so rich, has so many resources. And I think that once again, the communist party in China gets away with a lot.

We want their resources. We want to send our jobs overseas to take advantage of their cheap labor. And we forget that this is a really cruel government that has more than 250,000 people in reeducation through labor camps. And they use torture there.

BECK: I`ve got 45 seconds. I`m going to let you decide. Either we go for the rookie, the one we should be watching that`s going to be the star in a couple of seasons or the guy from Turkmenistan. You decide.

WALLECHINSKY: Well, I have to go with the one from Saparmurat Niyazov of Turkmenistan. If they could have a favorite dictator, he is government by win. He recently outlawed lip-synching.

I actually have to say, if I was a dictator, I would outlaw lip- synching. But he outlawed the playing of recorded music on radio. He said all music on radio and television has to be live.

He renamed the month of April after his mother and January after himself. It`s good to be dictator.

BECK: Well, it is good to be the king. Thank you very much, David.

You know, conspicuously absent from this shindig is Havana is the actual host of the summit, Fidel Castro. He might make an appearance in his feety pajamas. I`m not really sure. But sadly, he`s been feeling a little bit under the weather. Gosh, I hope you get well real soon, Fidel.

Not surprising, though, the one person who has been visiting Castro throughout the recovery is, you guessed it, Hugo Chavez. Castro and Chavez go all the way back -- in fact, I have a picture. Here they are. They`re playing -- this is from 1999. They`re playing at a baseball game. Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro.

And I got to tell you, if I was this close to Chavez, I think I`d want the bat as well, but that`s maybe just me. They`ve also sung duets together on Chavez` weekly radio show -- not kidding. Their close personal relationship, frankly, scares the daylights out of me, and I think it should you, too.

Anyway, I personally believe that there`s more here to this story. I think it would make the perfect subject for an upcoming miniseries.

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ANNOUNCER: And now, a scene from the upcoming miniseries, "Fidel and Hugo: A Love Story".

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come here, my cupcake. Oh, Hugo, I am so excited to se you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hmm, you`re not kidding.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Actually, that`s my gun. Can`t be too careful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, Fidel, you`re so cute.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hugo, I`ve waited for this moment for so long. At last, we are alone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, but, what about all these photographers?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, never you mind them. I`ll take care of them the same way you`re going to take care of those imperialistic American pigs.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You the man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, you the man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, you the man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, you the man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, Fidel, remember that weekend we spent in the mountains? I have someone I want you to meet. Maria! Say hello to your father!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I had no idea. She looks just like me, without beard, of course. You`ll grow up to be great tyrant just like daddy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s more. Julia, also say hello to your father.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, goodness. Oh, it`s good to be the dictator.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BECK: Coming up, a conversation about radical Islam and how they view us. It`s frightening.

Also, oil-producing nations doing everything they can to make sure we don`t have new fuel coming up.

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BECK: We have to decide, as a nation, do we want to buy foreign oil from our enemies? Do we want to enrich our enemies, yes or no? I believe that if you asked that question and put it on the ballot, you would have 90 percent of the American public would say, "No, we don`t want to buy oil from our enemies." Great. Then, let`s ban capitalism in this country temporarily from foreign oil.

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BECK: We`re going to go into that in a little greater detail tonight at bottom of the hour in "The Real Story". Don`t miss it.

Now this week in Havana, leaders from over 50 countries are meeting as part of the non-aligned movement summit. Loosely, if I may translate bull crap to English, that means countries with leaders who really, really hate us summit.

Invitees read like a list of who`s who of U.S. enemies from Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, and of course, President Tom is flying in from Iran, 90 miles off our shores.

After a few days of U.S. bashing, the summit will conclude with a signing of a declaration that, in part, condemns the attempts at hegemonic domination and the unjust international economic order. Are they -- you`re talking about us, aren`t you?

Now, for some reason, there`s not a lot of people talking about this little get-together. Maybe it`s because media attention on our enemies, especially if the enemy happens to have just a little bit Muslim in them, is often pretty scarce.

Maybe it`s because they think that people will start yelling "racist" and "hatemonger" at the first sign of any Muslim on the news.

And that may be one of the reasons why you`ve never heard of the new movie that is out -- kind of -- called "Obsession," the new documentary about radical Islam`s war on the west. It is a riveting film that relies on images from Arab television that is rarely seen in the U.S., including clips from people like Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, that will make you look at him in a whole different light.

So why isn`t this movie being distributed in the U.S.? Good question.

Wayne Kopping, director, editor, co-writer, the force behind this movie.

Wayne, why aren`t we seeing this movie?

WAYNE KOPPING, DIRECTOR, "OBSESSION": I think it`s going to take a very brave distributor to get behind this film. They`re going to need a lot of resolve, because as you pointed out, it seems like the 11th commandment is thou shalt not say anything about the Islamic community, even if it happens to be true.

BECK: And the truth, the most shocking truth that you reveal in this movie?

KOPPING: I think there are many things that people must understand about the radical Islamic ideology, but what we seek to show is that the attack happens in America, in London, Madrid, and we see them as separate attacks, but they really see them as separate fronts of a global jihad.

As you pointed out earlier, they have effectively declared war on the west, war on America -- war on America, and we haven`t recognized that yet, and that`s what we`re trying to show in the film and demonstrate by what they say in their own words to their own people, to their own children, on their own TV stations. And we reveal that in this film.

BECK: OK, and you also tie the Nazis together. In fact, if we can run a clip. This is from a former Nazi. This is what he says.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALFONS HECK, FORMER HITLER YOUTH OFFICER: If you can`t learn from the events of Nazi Germany, you will not be able to grasp the true intent of the danger of the radical Muslim world today.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: Why does he -- why does he say that?

KOPPING: Alfons Heck grew up as a former Hitler Youth officer, and he lived in that period, and he was a product of the indoctrination. When he looked around and he understood what was going on in the Arab world and he looked on the Internet and he saw some of the clips that we show in the film, he recognized, this is the exact same hate speech, ideology, propaganda, that he grew up with.

And he started to -- he started to explore this a little bit more. And the audience is going to be shocked to find how deep the roots of radical Islam are in the connection with the Nazi ideology and with Adolf Hitler himself.

BECK: Yes, now see, we`re -- we`re showing the clips now, just of the images of just the Nazi salute, and I was blown away. I was watching a speech by President Tom, and then they had the army march past him. They`re doing the goose step, too. Is this a coincidence?

KOPPING: They know exactly what they`re doing. They know exactly why they`re doing it. In the film, we show Arab propaganda, where it is word for word, image for image, the exact replica of Nazi propaganda. They learned from the best in the business, and this is how they seek to unify their people in this global jihad that we mentioned earlier.

BECK: So how is anybody in America going to be able to see this?

KOPPING: We`re working very hard to get a distributor, but we`re not sitting back and waiting for a distributor to come to us. We have set up several screenings around the United States, around the world. And you`ll have to check our web site, ObsessionTheMovie.com. And we have several of those screenings on our web site.

BECK: OK. Can you buy it online?

KOPPING: Absolutely. You can also buy it online, yes, absolutely. It`s on our web site, ObsessionTheMovie.com, and it`s available.

BECK: OK. Thank you very much, Wayne. I appreciate it. And best of luck to you. I hope the message gets out.

Back in a minute.

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BECK: Every day you can hear my radio program on stations all across this great country, including 1510 WLAC in Nashville, Tennessee, 540 WFLA in Orlando, Florida. And on our affiliate in St. Louis, KFDK, 97.1 FM, it`s Dave Glover.

Hello, Dave.

DAVE GLOVER, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: How are you doing, buddy?

BECK: Good. I had a very long, quiet elevator ride to my studio today with Gloria Steinem.

GLOVER: No, you didn`t.

BECK: Yes, I did, and Jane Fonda in the building.

GLOVER: Seriously? Wow.

BECK: Yes. It was quiet.

GLOVER: Now that`s -- that`s epic, because pretty much this means the end of your career. So we`ll always look back on this day.

BECK: Is that what it means?

GLOVER: I think absolutely.

BECK: I was afraid of that. Please don`t kill me.

GLOVER: Goodbye to Mr. Third Biggest Audience in the Country. For the folks who don`t know what we`re talking about, Gloria Steinem, Jane Fonda, Rosie O`Donnell, Billie Jean King -- there`s a name you haven`t heard in a while -- just today launched a female left-leaning talk radio syndicate.

BECK: They`re -- they`re left? No.

GLOVER: I did a little research on this, me.

BECK: Yes.

GLOVER: And one of the principals, Robin Morgan from "Ms." magazine, once did an essay -- true story -- wrote an essay with the subtitle, "White Males are Responsible for Most of the Destruction to Human Life and the Environment on the Planet." Fair and balanced. Fair and balanced.

BECK: Well, I mean, that is actually true.

GLOVER: You know, this...

BECK: I mean, well, yes, I mean, we`re not necessarily, but it is true. We are good at building things that break things.

GLOVER: Tearing them to hell. I went to the web site, and they`re promising, quote, "femininity and class." I don`t know about you, but when I think femininity and class, one name pops up, Rosie O`Donnell.

BECK: That`s exactly what I`m thinking. You know, why does -- why does anybody think that this is a hole in America? I mean, why did somebody think that there`s going to be an audience for this? I have a prediction. Air America will be off the air by Christmas.

GLOVER: They`re going to take over. They are -- I think they`re using their studios. They`ll be making payments to Air America. But they did an extensive research, according to Jane Fonda. Saw her this morning on "The Today Show". She says extensive research shows the No. 1 thing women want, they want to laugh. And so what`s the funniest thing in America? Female stand-up comedians. They found three of them, and they put them on a morning show. Compete with that, Jack.

BECK: I mean, Jane Fonda is not exactly funny. When I think Gloria Steinem, I don`t think, "Ha, laugh riot."

GLOVER: Billie Jean King. I`ll give them Billie Jean King.

BECK: Come on. You know, the problem with Rosie O`Donnell is I think that people like -- I mean, for a while I liked Rosie O`Donnell.

GLOVER: No, you didn`t. No, you didn`t.

BECK: I thought she was funny.

GLOVER: No, you thought she was Fred Flintstone. You didn`t like her.

BECK: Well, OK. Technically I thought that, as well, but she was funny. And then it just became this leftist, mean, angry agenda. Oh, do we have to see the footage?

GLOVER: It took about eight minutes.

BECK: Right. Now I guess here`s the good thing. After seeing the footage, let me be kind. Let me -- let me...

GLOVER: It`s your style.

BECK: Let me be kind and say anything nice.

GLOVER: Yes.

BECK: After seeing the footage, she`ll be better on radio.

GLOVER: For you, that`s nice.

BECK: That`s bad. That`s really bad, isn`t it?

All right. We`re out of time. I really want to talk to you. Maybe the next time you`re on we can talk about the movement of changing the name dog to...

GLOVER: Canine American. It`s about time.

BECK: I can`t take it. Dave, thanks a lot. Talk to you soon.

GLOVER: Thanks, man.

BECK: Bye.

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BECK: All right. Welcome to the "Real Story." This is where we cut through the media spin to try to figure out why a story is actually important to you. The first one up tonight is former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey. He taped a segment with Oprah yesterday. They`re going to air it next week. Coincidentally, the same day his new book is going to be released.

Now, most of the media headlines today are focused on his speech in 2004, where he told the nation that he was a gay American. But the real story has nothing to do with him being gay or even that he`s a despicable human being for cheating on his wife and his two children by having risky sex at highway rest stops.

No, no, no, no. The part of the story that everybody seems to forget is that Jim McGreevey resigned after his affair was allegedly with someone he put into a position he wasn`t qualified for, something that kind of opened him up for all sorts of potential blackmail. And worse yet, the position, an adviser to homeland security. Oh, that`s great!

In addition, people forget that McGreevey managed to run in less than three years one of the most investigated administrations in the history of New Jersey. It`s New Jersey, man. That`s saying something, James. The guy would make Tony Soprano blush.

So as much as people will want to remember him as someone who was courageous enough to face his true self, me, I`m going to choose to remember him as a lying, adultering, crooked politician that risked the health and safety of not only his family, but his entire state. And I`m thinking I`m also not going to be buying his book.

Changing gears now, let`s talk about the price of oil. Dropped yesterday to its lowest point since March. People are now saying that we may even get to see $2-a-gallon gasoline.

But the real story is that neither of those things may be good things. Now, I know this sounds counterintuitive, but stick with me for a second. I`ve got to bring you back a few decades to 1979 to explain this theory.

The energy crisis, everybody was in a panic, but fortunately, we had a guy who was courageous enough, Jimmy Carter was in the White House. And on the 15th of July of that year, he delivered a ground-breaking speech to the nation on energy independence, in which he proved his uncanny ability to predict the future. Watch.

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JIMMY CARTER, FORMER PRESIDENT: Beginning this moment, this nation will never use more foreign oil than we did in 1977, never.

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BECK: This guy never ceases to amaze me how wrong he always is. We`re now importing 63 percent more oil than we were in December of `77, but on the good side, at least Jimmy Carter was trying to do something about it. In `79, Congress approved the Synthetic Fuels Corporation and backed it up with about $88 billion in loans and price incentives. That is in today`s dollar $223 billion.

Its mission was to speed up the production of alternative oil and produce 2 million barrels of oil a day within seven years. Carter said this was bigger than the sum total of the Internet highway system -- or the interstate highway system, the Marshall plan, and the space program all combined. Six years later, company shut its doors.

Energy secretary at the time said oil prices just dropped too low to make the business viable enough. Wait a minute, oil prices were too low? Here`s the key. OPEC was concerned that America finally might be getting serious about coming up with a plan to make our own oil, so they decided to put an end to it. They crashed the price of oil.

Within six years, the oil prices fell from $37 a barrel to $14 a barrel. That made dumping billions into an energy program really not seem like much fun anymore.

Now, here`s the reason I`m telling you this story. You have to realize that our oil suppliers, they`ll do anything to keep this gravy train rolling. What we have to ask ourselves is, do we want to be in business with people who are using our oil money to arm themselves against us?

It`s time for us to make a decision. We can either be the short-term thinkers and cheer every time gas hits $2 a gallon, or we can be long-term thinkers and realize this isn`t about the price of gas. It`s about the security of our country. Edwin Black, he is the author of a new book called "Internal Combustion."

Edwin, you did your book -- by the way, you did the IBM and Holocaust book, did you not?

EDWIN BLACK, AUTHOR, "INTERNAL COMBUSTION": Yes, I did, because that was involved with a terrible past, and now I`m looking at a terrible future.

BECK: Yeah. Tremendous book. I can`t wait to read "Combustion." What is the biggest lie that you came across when you were doing the research on this book?

BLACK: Well, the biggest lie we`re looking at now is that corn ethanol is good for this country. Actually, corn ethanol is going to extend our addiction to oil. It takes a gallon to a gallon and a quarter of petroleum to make a gallon of corn ethanol, and there`s more than a 50- cent little known government subsidy that goes right to the oil companies. So every time you think you`re helping the farmers, you`re actually helping the oil companies.

At the same time, Brazilian sugar cane ethanol is oil-free, does not require oil, it`s good for the environment. We have a punitive tax against that, more than 50 cents a gallon, and that keeps it out. So that`s the biggest lie we`re looking at now, is the next big fuel mistake is corn ethanol.

BECK: OK. Hang on. How about this, because I really thought you would say that one of the biggest lies that you came across is the fact that we are going to have to spend billions of dollars to change the infrastructure of our highway systems if we come onto, let`s say, hydrogen cars.

BLACK: That`s another lie.

BECK: Right.

BLACK: If you want a hydrogen car, all you`ve got to do is get the Honda hydrogen car, when it`s going to be introduced in a couple of years, perhaps sooner. It`s going to have a home energy station. It`s going to be about the size of an air conditioner. It`s going to convert hydrogen right in your backyard or in your garage. It`s going to power your entire home and five cars. Honda`s going to sell it with the hydrogen car.

This is not a look into the future. This machine is available right now from Plug Power. Honda controls it, and BMW is beating Honda to the punch with hydrogen as well. There`s enough hydrogen flowing through this country in pipelines and trucks every day, right this minute, to fuel a million hydrogen cars.

One of the lies is we need to build a hydrogen highway. We don`t; it`s here.

BECK: OK, but this, actually -- you`ll never go to a gas station again, or a hydrogen station. You actually pump the hydrogen in your own garage?

BLACK: That`s right. The hydrogen will be manufactured right in your own garage in a small box that will also power your entire home. It`s called the home energy station by Honda. It`s made by Plug Power, and Honda is developing a car that they want to bring out in about three years. BMW is bringing one out next year that`s actually going to use a liquid hydrogen and a gas station.

BECK: Wait, wait, wait. This will power your own home, as well?

BLACK: That`s right, everything. We have a...

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BECK: These guys, I`ve got to tell you, only Honda could do this, because these guys would be dead, they`d be floating in some river if they were any place in New Jersey.

BLACK: And you want to hear something? Honda is refusing to get involved with corn ethanol because it`s a bad idea. Hydrogen is the answer and it is either going to be BMW or Honda. They`re both racing each other to the starting point, and we need to be with them.

BECK: Let me go through a couple of things, because there`s some technology that`s fallen flat -- oh, I have 30 seconds. I don`t have time to do this.

BLACK: We`ve only had 100 years to get it wrong.

BECK: I know. I tell you what, we`ll have you back, because you`re a fascinating guy and you`ve done so much research on this. How long you been researching this book?

BLACK: This book took about 50,000 documents, 100 archives, and about a year to cut through all the lies. It`s a century of lies, and now we need a nice, big moment of truth to bring this country back to energy independence.

BECK: That`s great. Edwin, thank you so much. We`ll have you back again.

That, my friend, is "The Real Story" tonight. If you would like to read more about the fascinating story about how OPEC crushed Synthetic Fuels Corporation or if you found a real story of your own and you want to tell us about, please, go to glennbeck.com. That`s with two n`s. Click on "The Real Story" button, and you`ll find all the information there.

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BECK: Stu and Dan said during the break that they should have an intervention for me. Anytime we get an e-mail, you know, regarding Hugo Chavez and the ingredients in his oil, I think we need to step in and say, Glenn, you`re a Hugo Chavezaholic.

What was my weekend like, Stu?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Glenn, your weekend is literal hell at this point. Every time I talk to you, you`re Googling some new Islamic word.

BECK: But I want to be accurate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The point is to do these stories without being a foreign policy institute.

BECK: Yes, we became the -- what`s that magazine I stopped reading?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Economist."

BECK: "The Economist." We became "The Economist." This show can never become "The Economist."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, thank you. I don`t want to be "The Economist." "The Economist" has the "Economist" handled.

BECK: It has to be more fun, like "Forbes."

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BECK: You know, if I were casting a movie of my life and I wanted someone more macho, more handsome, more talented than myself, Brian Dennehy. "Tommy Boy," "Cocoon," "FX", this guy, well, he`s sitting right here. How are you, sir?

BRIAN DENNEHY, ACTOR: How are you, thanks. Nice to meet you.

BECK: Nice to meet you.

DENNEHY: You just read that off of that card.

BECK: I did.

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: You know what the thing is? I mean, I`m a big fan. You come in immediately and start -- I look like Fruit Stripe gum, don`t I?

DENNEHY: No, you look like the second lead in a third-rate company of "Guys and Dolls," but that`s OK. Everything works except for the shirt and the tie. Other than that.

BECK: You know what`s so sad is I agree with it. I don`t think I`ve ever seen a movie where you -- I`ve seen bad movies I think that you were in, but I don`t think I`ve ever seen you suck in a movie.

DENNEHY: Actually, a producer would say, well, why do you think the movie was bad, if it had actors like Brian Dennehy in it?

(CROSSTALK)

BECK: Give me a movie where you sucked.

DENNEHY: Yes, right, I`m going to step into that one in a big, quick hurry.

BECK: Well, no, I mean...

DENNEHY: Well, I mean, you know what happened? Gene Hackman had the best comment of all about this particular subject. Someone asked him about what movies he liked himself in and he says, I never really like any whole movie. There are certain scenes. There are certain moments in movies where I look at it and I say, "That`s not terrible, that`s OK, that worked."

BECK: Best scene for you then?

DENNEHY: I have no idea.

BECK: Really?

(CROSSTALK)

DENNEHY: That`s one of the reasons why I like working in the theater because you don`t do that to yourself. You go out there. You spend three hours trying to get someplace, trying to figure something out. Every time you do it, I mean, like "Salesman," I did 650 times. You think you`ve gotten someplace or you`ve figured it out, and there`s always another place to go.

BECK: Right.

DENNEHY: And you don`t worry about thought stuff. In the movies, there is the sense of, well, what did you think about this picture? I always like other people`s pictures. Mine, I always look at other performances and say that`s pretty interesting.

BECK: I know.

DENNEHY: My own stuff, I look at it and say, "Meh, it`s fraudulent."

BECK: You did a -- you just did a movie, it`s animated, it`s a kid`s movie, and it`s about heroes. And it was actually started with Christopher Reeve, right?

DENNEHY: Chris Reeves and Dana, his wife, both of whom have passed away and both of whom were heroes for different reasons. Him for obvious reasons. But very few people know the story of Dana and how hard she worked to take care of him and their kids and then tragically developed cancer herself. They`re both extraordinary people.

BECK: OK, now, this is an actual -- I hate it. I understand you feel the same way. I hate it when I bring my kids to a movie and all of a sudden you`re like this is -- what I am doing? My kids should not be seeing this.

DENNEHY: This is not "Talladega Nights," and this is not "Larry the Cable Guy," where all of a sudden you`ve got an 8-year-old and you`re clapping your hands over their ears saying, "Don`t listen to this part."

This is a genuine kids picture. This is a picture for grandparents and for parents to take their 8-year-old, 9-year-old kids who play Little League baseball or basketball and who still haven`t completely lost their faith in Santa Claus. And they will all have a wonderful time, including the parents.

BECK: OK. And it is a story of Babe Ruth`s bat.

DENNEHY: It`s Babe Ruth loses his bat. Someone steals it. This kid recovers it and gets it back to Babe. And it`s those adventures. And of course the bat and the ball happen to be able to speak to him, but it`s -- and I play the voice or provide the voice for Babe Ruth.

BECK: OK. Let`s watch a clip here. Here it comes.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You little ruffian, I told you this hotel is not for snotty-nosed brats.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s my guest.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir, but...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And bring him a banana split or something. Bring me one, too.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you doing? Yankee!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What`s your name, kid?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yankee Irving, sir.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, you`ve got spunk. You know that?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He reminds me of me back in the day.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DENNEHY: That`s the first time I`ve seen it, so...

BECK: What has -- you`ve never seen any of it?

DENNEHY: No.

BECK: What the heck has happened to Hollywood where it is so -- it doesn`t even seem to -- I keep wondering, why aren`t people going to movies? It seems obvious.

DENNEHY: Well, there`s two emotions. This is not something I devised. There are two emotions which dominate in Hollywood: fear and greed. And fear seems to be on the rise right now.

Hollywood, as television...

(CROSSTALK)

DENNEHY: ... well, they`re terrified of a computer. They`ve been terrified for years of television. Television stomped them around pretty good, and then they began to recover from that. Now you`ve got the computer. You`ve got kids who don`t go to the movies. Before, you always had kids. At least the kids, young people went to the movies.

But now they have iPods, and they have telephones, and they have the computer, and they -- you know, they have a life -- things like this MySpace...

BECK: MySpace.

DENNEHY: ... MySpace and stuff like this, they have this completely different life. It`s all moved in a different direction, and Hollywood is still trying to figure it out. And, you know, Hollywood has always been -- or at least for 30 years has been -- I was lucky enough to be in Hollywood when it just about ended.

BECK: Brian, I hate to cut you off. In fact, let`s do an iPod update, because I`d love to be able to spend some more time. We`ll do that, and you can check out online. Brian Dennehy, thank you so much, sir.

DENNEHY: Yes, it was fun. Pleasure.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BECK: All right, football is back in season. The leaves are getting ready to fall, and for the moment there is very little radiation in the air, so let`s take a deep breath and dip into the e-mail for "Ask Glenn." You know, it`s much easier to read without the Hazmat suit on.

This one comes in from Doug in Iowa. He writes, "Glenn, I know you`re not a TV repairman, but you are a thinker, so I hope you can help me out. A few months ago the only thing on TV was how high the gas prices are. Now that they`re falling, I never seem to hear a word about them. There must be something wrong with my TV. Do I have a cable loose or something?"

Doug, I actually think your TV is okay, but first things first: To correspond with federal law, we`re going to talk about gas prices, so we have to legally be playing a video of gas station signs that feature really high prices. There it is. Wow, look at those numbers, huh?

Yes, it does seem like when gas prices are high you see a story one right after another about how regular people are struggling to afford their daily Twinkie and how they`re being forced to choose between gasoline and Lipitor. Now that they`re falling, political ammunition is gone, so the media, you know, it doesn`t pay attention, because they can`t freak you out.

That`s why you`re not going to see anything for a while. Wait a minute. Look at those numbers. They just keep getting higher and higher.

Anyway, here are a few gas prices over the last few months. You can pretty much plot the amount of "gas price freak out" stories from the news at the exact same line. Hold on. Can we go back to the video? Good.

Some of the recent fall has to do with speculators that think the Middle East is calming down. That`s part of it, as misleading as it is, but it goes deeper than that. Tomorrow, we`re going to give you all the details on radio and then back here on TV, as well. And it is a fascinating, mind-blowing journey of following the money. It all ends to a place -- I mean, you`re not going to expect it, unless you`re a loser like me that spent your weekend researching the difference between light sweet and heavy crude. If you`re in that boat, brother, I mean, you know nobody really likes you.

But while we have a second, let`s do recognize the hap-hap-happy news that, you know, gas prices are not only falling, but the Dow is about 200 points from it`s all-time end-of-session high. Hey, Brian Dennehy told me to cheer up, so I`m trying.

All right, now let`s go back to Armageddon. Freak out, everybody. We`ll see you back here tomorrow and, before that, on the radio program. See you then.

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